2021_grads

[tame latch]

They don't need most people.

That's the point.

Most people aren't getting the job.

[tiny wedge]

the point of interviewing someone is to test their problem solving skills

is it not

[rotund helm]

does google ask lc hards or cp

[tame latch]

The point of interviewing is hiring people who can be 10xers

with minimal false positive rate.

If you are in the position to do so.

[tiny wedge]

so you just get a bunch of study bots/bookworms

[tame latch]

You have other rounds for that

[rotund helm]

im never getting into google but i think they have a pretty reliable and fair interviewing process for the most part

[terse umbra]

doesn't make it any less shitty for good engineers who aren't devoted to CP and that's fine companies have a right to do that, just as we who took the OA have a right to complain

[tame latch]

i would say leetcoding is more botting

than cp

because everyone is leetcoding

*significantly more people are

[tiny wedge]

most cs people at my school aren’t

[flint halo]

you’re in a bubble

[tame latch]

most people at your school aren't applying to tik tok?

[tiny wedge]

doing leet

[rotund helm]

@tame latch you seem like a smart guy but i feel like you have a really narrow worldview dude

[granite flax]

leetcode also filters out older folks with family obligations which is a fair compromise since it's mostly being done at newgrad/junior level but once it reaches people with 10yr experience you know the system is busted

[tiny wedge]

probably has 1600+ lc #1 codeforces

[unkempt echo]

🍿

[terse umbra]

even LC is not something that everyone has the time to grind all the itime, lots of low-incoem students need to balance jobs and other responsibilities and won't have time to dedicate to LC, much less CP style problems

[tame latch]

yeah, i won't don't worry

i'm just making the point that

the companies are selecting to minimize false positives on top talent

not to give opportunities to give every talented people

a chance

because that's more cost effective on their end

[rotund helm]

i wonder what other system they could implement instead of leetcode

[terse umbra]

they can't

[tame latch]

you can do networking which is what IB does

[terse umbra]

thats the sad reality

[tiny wedge]

leetcode is just a metric to see if people put in work

[terse umbra]

the industry is way too saturated

[rotund helm]

like im was thinking about how a accredited software engineer grad school program would work

[tame latch]

top companies have more positions

[granite flax]

it's like 20% the fault of many cs studeents/bootcampers not knowing how to code

[tame latch]

i think uwaterloo has a software engineering degree

specifically

[rotund helm]

like the equivalency of law school or residency or med school or some shit for SWE's

tbh not the best idea cause school expensive but

[tame latch]

Describe a better solution a company can do on scale

with small recruiting staff

[tiny wedge]

bar raiser

[tame latch]

are you referring to amazon?

or amazon like

[tiny wedge]

roblox did that too

[tame latch]

amazon has to hire alot of people

[rotund helm]

i just don't want to see NA become like asia where its endless grind from elementary school to post grad

[tame latch]

ok but bar raiser has to take the time

[rotund helm]

endless tests and studying to set yourself apart

[tiny wedge]

i think roblox interviewed too many

[terse umbra]

thats where we're headed

[tame latch]

an hour of bar raiser time is a couple hundred dollars to the company

[tiny wedge]

if a company really wants the best of the best they should be prepared to interview extensively

[tame latch]

that's expensive from their point of view

you have other interviews

to test people skills

but you don't have to give them to everyone

[tiny wedge]

or they can use all LC hard to weed out everyone ig

[granite flax]

the med school/lawyer exam standard could be a good analogy, but even they have to put in work somehow outside their curriculum to get into elite schools

[tame latch]

that's the point of screening

[terse umbra]

also it's worth nothing that the companies we're talking about are like multi-billion dollar companies surely they can invest a bit more money/time into a more robust interview process, no?

[rotund helm]

you can do amazon style where the process is mostly automated and you pip everyone that slips through

most companies dont have the resources to pull that off

[tame latch]

firing is very expensive

then just not hiring

[rotund helm]

yeah ik about that amazon severence pay 😎

[granite flax]

yeah but we have to meet quarterly business/profit goals

[tiny wedge]

imagine dedicating hours of your time to CP to work at tik tok

on top of leetcoding

[tame latch]

if you do cp you don't need to lc

[rotund helm]

how do you get started with cp

[tiny wedge]

cp is a lot less enjoyable imo

[rotund helm]

is cp very math heavy

[rotund helm]

why

[tiny wedge]

^

[terse umbra]

CP is just another subdomain of CS it will interest some people and it won't interest others, it shouldn't be a threshold for a good candidate for a general SWE role

[rotund helm]

why is cp not enjoyable tho

[tiny wedge]

too math heavy

[rotund helm]

i see i see

yea i don't have that quant brain

lol

[tiny wedge]

i can see how DS and algos could tie into most work related stuff but not crazy math

how is CP gonna make me a better full stack dev

[tame latch]

just think of it as praticing problem solving

[terse umbra]

there are levels to problem solving

[tiny wedge]

at least with leetcode you might use one DS or algo on the job

[rotund helm]

its not even practicing problem solving tho

[azure gull]

F**k leetcode

[terse umbra]

and that's waht the complaint is

[azure gull]

That is all

[bronze canopy]

Are you guys talking about constraint programming??? Or competitive

[rotund helm]

like studies have found that brain games and brain "exercises" and whatnot don't make you smarter, they just make you better at the activity

[terse umbra]

competitive

[tame latch]

the templates are just to speed up reading input/out

[rotund helm]

if your good at cp your prolly smart tho

[tame latch]

and macros

to speed up implementation

[rotund helm]

thats pretty much all there is to it prolly

[terse umbra]

yeah but ur not dumb if u dont like CP

thats the point

[tame latch]

for example competitive progreammer might build a library of algos that they can call

so they can solve things very quickly

[azure gull]

Who said everyone does leetcode

[tame latch]

when they know the general idea of the solution

[azure gull]

That is just not true

[tame latch]

should be modified to be significantly more people do lc than cp

[unkempt echo]

dont rly understand why tik tok gave such a difficult OA

those that do well aren't going to work there lol

[tame latch]

just curve it

so passing is lower lol

[rotund helm]

i wish i was doctor

[unkempt echo]

i understand but reading through the question it looks like the mean will be like ~40% lol

mean of competitive applicants*

[tame latch]

Maybe they have small intern class?

[unkempt echo]

looking at their fte comp packages they can't compete with many many other places

[terse umbra]

congrats?

[rotund helm]

idek why im here id be cool with working at like c1 after grad

[tame latch]

You could say that about every company

[terse umbra]

i dont think that was the intention of their OA but ok lmao

[full shore]

also what position at tik tok was the OA for for you guys

[unkempt echo]

bigger issue is that their Q2 test cases were just broken lol

[languid orbit]

smh

[unkempt echo]

apparently

[terse umbra]

yeah they were

[tame latch]

Fb steals your data, google steals your data etc

[rotund helm]

??

[languid orbit]

I agree

[tame latch]

Describe

maybe people

• in terms of hours?

why would people work at amazon?

tc

[languid orbit]

tc

[tame latch]

maybe you want to get into pre-ipo tik tok

[languid orbit]

I'd sell my soul to amazon for that good TC

[tame latch]

why do people work for citadel

tc

[languid orbit]

I'm close to landing FB, but looking at their offers, I'm not impressed

[mortal temple]

bruh

[tame latch]

What are u comparing with?

that's the question?

[languid orbit]

I want Austin, and good TC. The combination doesn't exist in most companies

[tame latch]

ah rip

[languid orbit]

Fb is like 240 year 1 and 160 recurring in CA

That's shit

[tame latch]

get promoted

lol

you can get promoted to sde2

in a year

[terse umbra]

huh

[unkempt echo]

yikes

[rotund helm]

"thats shit"

[mortal temple]

what am I watching

[tame latch]

or 2

[languid orbit]

CA taxes

[high thunder]

@languid orbit HRT has Austin office 🙂

[terse umbra]

did this dude jsut say 240 + 160 is shit

[languid orbit]

Seattle 160 is God tier

[rotund helm]

yeah he did

[tame latch]

virtu has austin

citadel has austin

[unkempt echo]

ill just drop this here lol

[rotund helm]

why am i still here

[languid orbit]

Idk I spent $100/day on average for food in CA

[tame latch]

wait you can get promoted to e5

[dusky robin]

Yo 240 + 160 is fire wtf

[tame latch]

in 5 years

[terse umbra]

then cook?

[rotund helm]

dude said thats shit

[tame latch]

so get promoted

[rotund helm]

i cant believe it

[languid orbit]

I mean for FB standards

People be hyping it up like it's citadel

[unkempt echo]

ur around strange ppl lol

[terse umbra]

ah ur one of those

[tame latch]

maybe he was expecting more

it's about expectations

lol

[rotund helm]

everything is relative

[mortal temple]

why is every company not like citadel TC 😠

[languid orbit]

I'd be happy with 100k, but it doesn't live up to the hype

[rotund helm]

move to baghdad they have low col and i heard defence companies there are booming

[dusky robin]

Wait fb isnt even hiring new grads unless ur a return intern

[terse umbra]

these are some pretty tone-deaf comments to be making in the midst of a pandemic when millions have lost their jobs and livelihoods

but you do you i guess

[tame latch]

he's probs return

because 240 returning

[dusky robin]

So how are u “close” to landing fb thou

[unkempt echo]

u can have expectations but u should also keep some perspective

[tame latch]

means he has a bonus

[dusky robin]

Oh fall intern?

[languid orbit]

Nah, I'm talking from my friend's offer

Shit I aint even close

I'm close to intern'

Frfr

[rotund helm]

staying at msft for life might be the move

[dusky robin]

Bruh my amazon return offer was like 60% of that and I would have been more than happy to take it

[tame latch]

i thinkthe move is honestly seattle

bc no income tax

and col isn't terrible

[dusky robin]

If it werent for that 5-15-40-40 vest

[languid orbit]

240k but CA taxes! That's a + and -

[tame latch]

and tech companies pay high col for seattle

[languid orbit]

But recurring is Amazon level

[flint halo]

there’s more to location than expenses

[languid orbit]

Amazon is 180k recurring in CA

[rotund helm]

but honestly thats why im scared of living in san fran or seattle one day. im scared of being surrounded by the rat race mindset and just getting locked in that

[dusky robin]

Nah not for return intern sde 1

Maybe bay area actually

[tame latch]

i think the point that was trying to be made was relative to expecations, fb paid badly

[flint halo]

you’re going to have enough money to fatfire either way just +/- 5-10 years to it

[languid orbit]

Are you saying return Amazon is lower than 180? Look up levels (BAY)

[tame latch]

not fb paid badly in absolute sense

i think amazon return this year was 167?

[terse umbra]

he said "that's shit"

[languid orbit]

That's LCOL

[dusky robin]

I received a return offer from Amazon, but it wasnt bay

[languid orbit]

Yo "relatively"

[tame latch]

bay is a bait lol

[dusky robin]

Sorry didnt realize u were talking about bay, mine was so cal

[unkempt echo]

even relative 240 is higher than the wide majority of new grad fb offers ive seen lol

[tame latch]

^ he's factoring in return bonus?

[languid orbit]

240k is with the 80k signing tho

[unkempt echo]

and thats comparable to citadels standard new grad, 290k

[languid orbit]

160 is recurring

EXACTLY MY POINT

[unkempt echo]

lmao

[mortal temple]

yikes

[flint halo]

[unkempt echo]

atetheonion

[tame latch]

damn, be like ken griffen

[languid orbit]

why work so hard for FB when you can chill at cap1 for the same TC

[tame latch]

start your own hedge fund

in college

wait cap 1 is 100k

lol

[languid orbit]

Fb is 160

But CA

[unkempt echo]

NYC is more expensive than CA

both in taxes and col

[rotund helm]

if you're not a trust fund baby why live?

[languid orbit]

Cap1 is TX right? Plano

[still vector]

If you're spending $100 a day on food that's very much a you problem

[tame latch]

wait also fb gives free food...

[rotund helm]

while you guys are out here grinding for internships i bought VOO and made $500 in a day by jacking off

why bother?

[cerulean pivot]

imagine spending $3k/month on food

[languid orbit]

Ah shit that's true

[unkempt echo]

taxes are definitely higher, the only maybe disputable point is rent

[tame latch]

You can buy more voo 🙂

[rotund helm]

yeah cap1 like 90k in texas which is rlly good

[languid orbit]

Yeah that's dream at suburbs in TX

[rotund helm]

are you from tx

[languid orbit]

Yeah

[rotund helm]

do you like living there

[languid orbit]

Love it

[rotund helm]

honest question i might end up

[unkempt echo]

not the best source but this

[rotund helm]

there after grad

[unkempt echo]

yeah only considering manhattan

but you're only considering bay so

[languid orbit]

Texas culture is the nicest ever. People are great here

[mortal temple]

yeah manhattan is nuts pricey

[unkempt echo]

oh i see

wait

no its san francisco

not CA as a whole

[languid orbit]

Where are you rn?

[rotund helm]

DMV

aka dc area

[languid orbit]

Ah yeah, you just gotta deal a bit with the conservatism. If you're a moderate or conservative, you'd have a great time. However, Texas is very liberal near most cities. Idk about Plano tho

[unkempt echo]

i think if we're getting that granular it becomes too case by case to properly give a generalization

you can live outside of manhattan and work in manhattan

[tame latch]

How's the commute

though

[unkempt echo]

just like you can live in SF and work in bay

[tame latch]

that's the question

[unkempt echo]

not bad at all

i can live in hoboken NJ and take a 20 min commute

[tame latch]

if it's 30 min commutee each way that's chill

but 1 hour commute each way is not chill

[unkempt echo]

im pretty sure i specified manhattan vs bay area

later on

alright

my bad

implied manhattan

[rotund helm]

would you guys prefer nyc or bay

[unkempt echo]

nyc

[rotund helm]

same

[tame latch]

nyc and bay area have some of the highest rents lol

[languid orbit]

NYC

[unkempt echo]

east coast gang

[rotund helm]

there' just so much diversity in nyc

beast coast

[terse umbra]

toss up for me since im from the bay

[rotund helm]

is it hard to stay there

😦

[terse umbra]

if ur gonna jump jobs you wil probably end up in the bay at some point

[rotund helm]

i was hoping with wfh it would be the opposite

[terse umbra]

unless ure actively avoiding it

[unkempt echo]

katz's

is worth being in nyc for it

[last linden]

nyc, harder to date in bay

[unkempt echo]

brogrammers

[digital carbon]

I feel like there are still plenty of companies in NYC for job hoppers

Not necessarily the cream of the crop SV companies, but there are plenty doing tech stuff

Like it's def less than bay area

But imo there are still enough to hop around

[silver bone]

Has anyone applied/heard anything from Duolingo

[rotund helm]

lol what's it like @worthy spear

cancer?

[unkempt echo]

wso is less toxic than blind from my experience lol

[mortal temple]

wso?

[unkempt echo]

wallstreetoasis, its a finance forum

[last linden]

wall street oasis

[mortal temple]

oh dang I didn't realize it was well known

[rotund helm]

wisconsin state oniversity

[cursive loom]

hiru ur worth being in nyc all by urself ❤️

[rotund helm]

yeah i feel like that culture is more aggressive

[unkempt echo]

wdy want ur not nice without reason i aint fallin for it

[cursive loom]

wtf bro

i just want a small loan

of a 1mil TC

p0x

pl0x

[unkempt echo]

p0x

[cursive loom]

i have p0x

[ocean geode]

anybody here heard of/use techinterviewpro? would like to hear your thoughts on it

[pure hull]

Has anyone here done Splunk OA?

[vagrant raft]

Lmao how is 240k new grad and 160k recurring shit?

The entitlement of some people here...

[glass dove]

Anyone here who gave brilliant hire assessment for SAP front end?

[tiny oak]

blind is dumb af lmao

reminds me of 4chan where the anonymity makes people complete assholes

[digital carbon]

Isn't blind mostly shitposting

Anytime someone says something legitimately insensitive, they get called out on it afaict

[crystal notch]

blind is the world's largest collection of narcissists lol

[tiny oak]

i mean i don't see that a lot, i also see a lot of cocky pricks lmao like people just posting about how much savings they have, their tc, etc

some good content though that's why i still have it

[digital carbon]

Oh ok, I don't spend much time on blind so I could be wrong lol

[tiny oak]

just the emojis alone get me bruh

comments good stuff

[terse umbra]

for ppl that send cold emails, how many times do you follow up before you stop emailing the recruiter?

assuming they don't respond to any of ur emails ofc

[wind acorn]

rofl

[quick panther]

TC is 300k and he only has 1M net worth?

lmfao

what a douche

[wild otter]

And in mcol too, jeezus man

[digital carbon]

Sadly, I think people like this actually do exist irl

[tame latch]

1 mill is good

Bc taxes take half

Lol

[vapid river]

Lol I appreciate blinds dgaf attitude

Just ppl being their true self

[tame latch]

so it’s basically 150k after tax

[vapid river]

Instead of fake

Its refreshing

[last linden]

when i go out in public i try to keep my airpod pros discrete by putting a pair of $400 headphones over them. always stay humble

[sour narwhal]

Any idea about Bloomberg and Akuna?

[tame latch]

what positions

[sour narwhal]

C++ developer

[true folio]

random ques, how much do people spend of their monthly in hand on rent?

does everyone share the apartment or prefer studios?

[unkempt echo]

general rule of thumb 1/3 of your disposable monthly income on rent

apartment is just more space than studio right, its just strictly better

and costs more

[true folio]

I meant live with roommates or get studios

[unkempt echo]

if you want a nicer/cheaper place you get roommates

if you need the privacy get a studio

[zenith bane]

--

[autumn lynx]

Any body who took tik tok OA, how many test cases did u guys pass in total? I got 23/34

[azure gull]

Does “Ilovebezos” really sound like a reliable source

[unkempt echo]

yes

[drowsy sentinel]

i got 21/34 iirc

[nocturne relic]

just finished it

how many test cases were there per problem again

[drowsy sentinel]

i don’t remember exactly but i think it was 7, 12, 5, 10. i might be wrong

[nocturne relic]

I got 7/7, 9/12, 3/5, 8/10 i think

so 27? not sure

[autumn lynx]

I also timed out on the memory one. Was yours O(max(m1,m2))

It was pretty fucking hard tho

What do you think the cutoff will be?

[stark otter]

mine was 7/7, 11/12, 3/5, 8/10

2 hours hours for 3 of those sums is kinda 😰

[dreamy charm]

just did tiktok coding challenge

big yike

[vagrant raft]

If that tiktok oa is representative of the the future of interviews, I'm screwed

[dreamy charm]

I ran out of time on probability, I think 7/7, 0/12, 3/5, 8/10

[stark otter]

i think they simply got too many applications and they made it super hard to weed one as many people as possible

[dreamy charm]

Imma guess no one wants to talk about the solutions

[wanton hound]

7/7, 1/12,3/5, 8/10

Anyone knows who to approach the probability one

[twilit fiber]

What’s the question

[wanton hound]

*how

[twilit fiber]

Can give it a shot

[wanton hound]

I don't know if we are allowed to discuss actual questions here

I would assume so, that's the case for ones who applied in the first couple of days of the app popping up

I think they are gonna do it in batches, cause we just had 2 days to do it

[earnest mist]

Just finished that OA 7/7 11/12 3/5 and 8/10.

[shadow heart]

Did anyone take the Roblox OA here? What was the difficult level?

[subtle field]

Fuck final interviews are so stressful. Just had my first one and was nervous waiting for it to start and now all I can do is wait and hope they accept

[crisp trench]

someone pls answer

i have to take OA in 2 days

afaik first two problems were easy only last one was hard

[digital carbon]

Roblox OA was like easy, medium, then hard imo

[crisp trench]

you solved all?

how hard was last one?

[digital carbon]

No I didn't pass all test cases, but still moved onto the technical rounds

[crisp trench]

ohh

[digital carbon]

Last one was really hard, I wasn't able to solve it

[crisp trench]

you solve 2.x ish problems?

[digital carbon]

Wdym?

[crisp trench]

2 and a partial

[digital carbon]

Uh no more like 1 and 2 partial lol

[crisp trench]

are you appearing for uni grad role?

[digital carbon]

Yes

[crisp trench]

ok

technical rounds?

what are they?

[digital carbon]

It's the two technical rounds after the OA

I didn't do the technicals btw, I dropped out of the process because I was already gonna sign an offer

[crisp trench]

ohhh

which country are you from?

[digital carbon]

I'm just saying idt they care about passing all cases on OA

I'm a US citizen

[crisp trench]

ok ok

sadly I'm Indian so I may to ace all to get any consideration

manytimes no call even after fully solving all questions

[cursive loom]

i solved the OA perfectly and i didnt get moved past

and so have a bunch of ppl

[tiny wedge]

i can also confirm that roblox OA was easy-med-hard

got all test cases on first 2 and 2/3 on the third and moved on to the final

[proud thunder]

Any advice for amz final 3-rounder?

[cursive loom]

quick q, how doesthe amazon final work

i hear some ppl are asked about their OA2 and some ppl have a 3 round onsite

is it just random

[proud thunder]

Yeah apparently it is, a friend of mine got the 1 rounder even though we both got 7/7 and 2/2

[cursive loom]

do they let u know which one ur getting

before the final

so u can prep?

[worthy cedar]

got 7/7 and 2/2 and didn't even get interview..

[autumn lynx]

Anyone know what the SAP selection committee interview is like?

[patent cloak]

It was just a 20 minute chat with one of the head guys of the program. Super casual

@autumn lynx

[tidal hazel]

i dont remember, but weren't there talks about having a roommate channel of sorts on this server? that would be so dope.

[tall wadi]

Anyone completed OA for Back End Development of SAP SVNT?? I have a question that do they allow only JAVA language only?

[terse umbra]

for ppl that send cold emails, how many times do you follow up w the recruiter if they don't respond?

[steep oriole]

@terse umbra I basically just email those recruiters who like to ghost every Monday morning.

[worthy spear]

Only twice but I usually wait about two weeks in between the two of them.

Anyone had an interview with L3Harris for their Engineering Leadership Development Program

[torn talon]

anyone know a good video for a quick intro to design patterns for an interview in a few days? 😛

[rustic ruin]

for those that did HRT phone, how long did they take to get back to you after the first round? I did pretty well but havent heard anything from the recruiter for 2 weeks now

[mortal temple]

i heard back after a day

but they could be busy

doesn't hurt to reach out

[rustic ruin]

already did last week :/

[mortal temple]

oh :(

[proud thunder]

Yup. Mine says specifically 3 hrs

[cursive loom]

ah

i would guess the other one was 1 hr or so

[dusk linden]

anyone here who had a Phone screen with Microsoft recently? had few questions .

[stoic tendon]

Anyone appeared for the bytedance OA?

[worthy spear]

How long are you guys planning to stay with your company after graduation? I saw a post for a 3 year program with a company and idk how I feel about that.

[narrow patrol]

like a year and a half, or 2 If I pursue an mba

[tiny wedge]

does tiktok automate their OA?

[azure gull]

Does American Express or IBM look better on resume

[patent cloak]

They’re so similar it’s better to choose the one with better location/team/TC/WLB/culture etc

[wind acorn]

not cold emails but after having established communication w/ a recruiter, in increasing frequency as time goes on lol

[vagrant raptor]

yeah totally agree with what drew said, I don't see any difference between the two

[wind acorn]

esp if I have deadline

[azure gull]

Thanks y’all

[digital carbon]

I might stay 2 years or I might stay a really long time

I know that I'll be able to move around different teams if I get bored

but maintaining strong career or compensation trajectory would be tough because bloomberg has a pretty flat structure

I'm gonna play it by the year lol

[worthy spear]

I'll be able to move around since it is a development program but when I applied I didn't read that it was for 3 years 🥲

[digital carbon]

hmm yea mandating 3 years is kinda weird

what company though?

and what do you have to lose if you leave before 3 years lol

employment is usually at-will, so would you be losing a bonus or smth?

[worthy spear]

L3Harris like I'm going to try and get an offer but bruh

Lol not too sure I'm meeting with the hiring manager next week

[digital carbon]

like legally they can't force you to stay, so I'd be curious what the stipulations of the program are

unless it's just structured to take 3 years, and that's not tied to any incentives

[worthy spear]

It just said that it is a challenging 3-year rotational program

[unkempt echo]

i think most ppl will stay 4 yrs on avg

personally will stay as long as im treated fine and comp growth is good lol

[tired bay]

Yeah ELDP is pretty prestigious like handful of people get in and it’s basically shoe in for management

But defense comp growth slow and not that good like first major raise probs wouldn’t be till you exit program

But you will be looked at as the best and brightest talent in whole company so that could be plus

[digital carbon]

yea basically same for me, but BB is kinda stingy

[worthy spear]

Ooh I didn't know that. I was trying to find what the program is tbh because there weren't a lot of information provided.

[worthy spear]

I heard management is bad and idk how I feel about that lol

[tired bay]

Yeah Lockheed has same ELDP thing set up so I kinda know how it functions

[worthy spear]

Ooh do you know how L3Harris is as a company by chance?

[tired bay]

They a solid defense company way smaller than Lockheed but they are more tech driven and more modern than Lockheed is def one of the best defense contractors

[vapid river]

When negotiating compensation, do u specifically ask to increase the salary even tho ud be down for increase in stock/sign on instead

[tired bay]

Well increase in salary probs better so that’s first thing you say and increase in stock sign on is used as compromise

[foggy ravine]

anyone interviewed for google cloud technical residency program and can give any interview insight :)

[tired bay]

I think we had a couple get offers do a search and reach out to them

[foggy ravine]

okie ty

[azure gull]

Messaged you

[floral spear]

Hi guys, just joined the discord. I posted my questions in the wrong channel earlier. I am going to have 3 round interview with OCI. HR gave two days, far apart from each other.
My questions are: 1. Can I ask for a different day? 2. Personally, I would like to pick the day further from now. It will leave me with more time to practice and prepare. However, do you guys know if OCI will have the case that out of headcount when I am interviewing. (I am in the Amazon waitlist, waitlist drama freaks me out) Please advice, thxxx

[sly saffron]

@floral spear How far are the two days?

[floral spear]

15 days

[blissful adder]

anyone have experience negotiating salaries for new grad programs(rotational and such)? it seems comp is pretty standardized/non-neogitable

[remote kayak]

I feel like no harm in trying right?

That’s my plan at least

Also anyone know what platform amazon uses for interviews?

[devout bobcat]

amazon uses amazon chime for 30 minute

idk about 3 hr

[blissful adder]

Yeah I agree was just lookin for some tips

[remote kayak]

Hmm I remember reading a good guide on negotiating I’ll try and find it

[devout bobcat]

https://yangshun.github.io/tech-interview-handbook/negotiation This is pretty good

[blissful adder]

Super comprehensive thanks!

[worthy spear]

@here is s/m design asked for new grad roles?

[wind acorn]

what is s/m design?

[autumn lynx]

systim dzyn

[worthy spear]

@wind acorn system design

[devout bobcat]

Sometimes @worthy spear

[silver bone]

Palantir does

[wind acorn]

pretty rare

you're more likely to get an OOP question than a sys design question

[worthy spear]

cool thanks @wind acorn @silver bone

[worthy spear]

Has anybody been invited to events by Palantir after their HM interview and then been rejected?

[wraith basin]

okay, so I have a 3 hour interview with a startup which would be me coding a project on my local machine and interviewer shadowing me. I've never practiced for this kind of interview. Any advice?

[worthy spear]

make sure you talk through everything, outline your approach, vocalise all your decisions/assumptions etc.

just be super communicative!

[wraith basin]

@worthy spear thanks

so I will have to explain everything that I do?

I mean I will be googling stuff to complete the project and all. How do I go about explaining that? And that will be how I spend my majority of time.

[worthy spear]

If my recruiter doesn't tell me what kind of interview a 30 minute interview with the hiring manager would be, should I just assume that it is more kind of like a behavioral type of interview?

[digital carbon]

Most importantly, make sure your local dev environment is set up properly and that you're intimately familiar with it. So that you don't have to fumble around with that during the interview

And yea communication would probably be really important too

[vocal carbon]

i did it once, having a dev env you're familiar with is pretty important. And having wsl setup if you use windows could be nice too

[worthy spear]

Lol I did she didn't respond 😂

Already checked all day yesterday 😂🥲 I might just review my resume and the job description

Thanks!

[supple fjord]

How do you renege a company?

what do I say? I don't think I'll ever join this company again but the people there were amazing so I don't wanna burn any bridges

[blissful adder]

"circumstances have changed and this is no longer the best opportunity for me and my family at this time"....youre prob gonna burn the bridge no matter what but as long as you express that your interest was sincere

[supple fjord]

oooh thank you

and yeah, i just feel so bad about it

[blissful adder]

its okay to be selfish

[drowsy sentinel]

did anyone else receive an invite through jumpstart for a tiktok campus career talk? i did the OA a couple days ago so i’m not sure if this is a good sign or if they sent this invite to everyone

[latent cipher]

@drowsy sentinel fwiw i got that through handshake without having taken the OA

[drowsy sentinel]

ah gotcha thanks!

[woven tinsel]

Do job postings slow down this time of the year?

[tiny oak]

that facebook 100k signing isn't typo? wtf

how is it given like over a year?

or longer

or is it just here's 100k xd have fun

[cunning forge]

the 100k is for a phd anyway that’s a fire comp 386.5 year 1/270.5 recurring

yea it’s lump sum not distributed

i mean cit be handing out 150 signing to undergrads

[unkempt echo]

u do the phone screen

[autumn lynx]

bruh

[ocean geode]

bruh thats kind of a bad question...worried about your chances on the phone screen based on this

[azure gull]

When you negotiate an offer do you do it over the phone when they tell you your offer details or negotiate through email after they send the offer letter?

[ocean geode]

^thats a good question

[vocal carbon]

both

depending on situation

[azure gull]

How so

[marble scarab]

Don't do it when you get the offer details, just listen and sound very appreciative - once they send the offer letter, consider what you want specifically & what leverage ur gonna bring up, then schedule a call with the recruiter or hiring manager

[hallow girder]

I got an offer in chicago for 90k base and $14k in rsu stocks per year for 4 years. Is this considered good?

[soft tide]

what role and size/nature of company?

[hallow girder]

Associate Software enginner for new grads. Software company

[soft tide]

living in chicago is actually not as expensive as other cities (cheaper rent) so you will def live comfortably with 90k

[hallow girder]

800 employees

[soft tide]

has the company IPOed

[hallow girder]

Yes

[soft tide]

I think you should shoot for 100K base salary; ask about annual bonuses and signing bonuses

negotiate in this order: base salary -> annual bonuses / more rsu stock -> one-time signing bonus/relocation fee

[azure gull]

Sounds good

[foggy ravine]

has anyone heard of lpl financial , are they a good company

they asked me to interview but i already have some offers that i’m content with, idk if i should

[trail cloak]

Any who interviewed for C1 this month hear back yet?

[plucky hinge]

Is there a reason to not pivot in 1 year?

[trail cloak]

It’s be 10 days and my recruiter says the team is still reviewing

[amber minnow]

Anyone interviewed with tiktok here?

[stark forge]

@amber minnow i just got their rejection letter from their OA lol

[vapid river]

what a great thanksgiving gift

[stark forge]

anyone interview for BNY ?

[last linden]

i cant wait to pass tiktok OA and fail resume screen

[cerulean pivot]

isnt it crazy hard lmao

[stark forge]

yes it was very math heavy lol deleted my tiktok account because I felt so violated

[errant briar]

Today, I just got my rejection email for amazon SDE new grad final virtual interviews. It was a great experience definitely about Faang. Definitely in 1 month I had virtual interview with Google and Amazon. Although I clear all the online, i need to improve the in person skills

[stark otter]

if my hacker rank email says 10 days from today the link will expire and it was sent on 16th, when is my deadline?
is it 26th night or 26th the time of the email

[jagged walrus]

get it done by 25th

[digital carbon]

How the fuck is wish paying so much

Isn't it just a site for selling knock offs

Or am I missing something lmao

[cursive loom]

wish always pays a lot

i have 0 idea what they do

but all interns get paid well

plus fts

their intern resume screen bar is high tho

high averages

[daring bough]

i heard they really care bout gpa

[dark jewel]

uhh my GPA is pretty average

their interviews were pretty hard though

[stark otter]

oh okay

ill do it tnoight

thanks!

[worthy spear]

Not swe but if anyone is interested:

https://buildyourfuture.withgoogle.com/programs/itrp/

[vocal carbon]

Ya I don't understand wish

They're the highest paying company in canada I believe

By far

But it's like a fucking online dollar store

[fallow geyser]

TIL wish is canadian

now i know why all the waterloo chads go there

[devout carbon]

Founders are from waterloo I think

Idk how they manage to pay so much though lol

[dark jewel]

wish is headquartered in SF

the founders are canadian, but it's kinda like saying Tesla is a canadian company because Musk is canadian

[worthy spear]

@eager glacier I haven't seen a lot of FT but I've seen a good amount of interns

[fallow geyser]

Did you all make posts on linkedin declaring where you took an offer?
nope, i dont like those posts

[high thunder]

Wtf is Wish that’s an epic offer for Bellevue

[tired bay]

They filed for IPO seeking 25-30 billion evaluation

[digital carbon]

too many negations

[plucky hinge]

Is there a reason to not pivot in 1 year?

[unkempt echo]

recruiting is a pain

[radiant shore]

Did you all make posts on linkedin declaring where you took an offer? That's like 90% of my front page, I start to think it's just etiquette or something.
@eager glacier nah thats actually cringe

[tight marlin]

I don't make any of those posts but I could maybe see it be useful for building connections and setting up potential future opportunities

[last linden]

one-up by making linkedin posts talking about where you've applied to

[dark jewel]

"I sent 450 applications, here's where the bar was low enough for me to get an offer!"

[autumn lynx]

has anyone heard back from Square yet?

[worthy spear]

How many places have you guys applied to? I feel like my number is low and I should start applying to more...

[unkempt echo]

~130 last year, ~40 this year

[tight marlin]

~70 last year, ~350 this year - the number really depends what kind of companies you're going for

[dark jewel]

i applied to 15 last year, 200+ this year

somehow ended up with more offers last year than this year

[worthy spear]

Are you guys counting the positions or just the companies?
Because for me combined is only like around 60-70 this year...

[unkempt echo]

Positions for me

[dark jewel]

companies

[unkempt echo]

Well I didn’t apply to more than 1 per company

[dark jewel]

yeah, most companies only really have 1-2 new grad positions

[tight marlin]

individual positions, but it was very uncommon for companies to have more than 1 application for new grads

[worthy spear]

Sometimes I see companies put up multiple new grad positions that are basically the same. The only difference would probably be that they opened another location.

[tight marlin]

yeah honestly, if they didn't explicitly say to only apply for one posting I'd apply for all the ones they had open lol

[worthy spear]

Ooh do you just apply to the companies you're interested in or just mass apply?

[unkempt echo]

Mass applying is always better if you have the time/effort cause SWE recruiting is ultimately a numbers game, but I didn’t apply to as many this year personally cause I was happy with my return offer

[worthy spear]

I feel like I should've just mass applied because most of the interviews I had for the past four years were mostly behavioral...

[worthy spear]

Which company? Also, congratulations!

[unkempt echo]

You’re not too late, there’s going to be another hiring round early next year

It was a company called Wolverine Trading

[worthy spear]

Ooh nice!
I started applying like in July 😅
Most of my friends haven't even applied to companies yet

[unkempt echo]

Ah wow early starter

Do you know where you may be heading as of now?

[pseudo wigeon]

random q but has anyone been in a situation where their recruiter contacts them to schedule final round after they already failed final round recently lol (like 3 wks ago)?

i feel like it was def a mistake on her end but If I just try to schedule again without saying anything will I get to interview again lol?

[arctic drift]

I applied to like 150+ (prob 200+)

it's all just a numbers game

[tight marlin]

are you sure you failed it?

like were you explicitly told you didn't pass, or were you just ghosted? this could be a follow-up interview if they're reaching headcount or something

I'd say run with it especially if you still need an offer

[arctic drift]

just because you don't do perfectly doesn't mean you failed

[pseudo wigeon]

i got a reject email so i wasn't ghosted

[arctic drift]

Maybe you're interviewing for a diff team

Apple has you interview for separate teams iir

c

[worthy spear]

Nope because the positions I've been applying to are more to cybersecurity/infosec. I applied to SAP svnt for UX and made it to the final round and my interviewer said that I would get a spot in the program but I didn't have a portfolio so the interviewer was like if you get one, apply again.

[pseudo wigeon]

hmm ok

thanks for the help everyone appreciate it

[arctic drift]

Do you have any other offers/final rounds

[unkempt echo]

Ah damn I don’t know much about cyber security/infosec but I know how tough the UX scene is

Keep at it, good things are coming your way

And don’t listen to billy he’s mean

[worthy spear]

🥲nope but I hope I will

[worthy spear]

Thanks 😭

[worthy spear]

The UX scene is actually not that bad ...only problem is that there aren't a lot of positions for those trying to break into that world.

[arctic drift]

back up in the bm rankings you go

[arctic drift]

good luck, it's tough but it's all a numbers game

[unkempt echo]

billy the bully

[arctic drift]

Hiru the BMboy

[arctic drift]

you just need one to take a chance on you

and all will be g

[unkempt echo]

Yeah companies are slowly finding the value of UX but supply is still low

[worthy spear]

Thanks! I'm not too disheartened tbh everything has a time and a place.

[unkempt echo]

Bloomberg billy

[arctic drift]

Roblox billy

Lil Nas X won my heart

[unkempt echo]

character animator billy

[arctic drift]

c'mon man

I'm infra

[unkempt echo]

billy nye the physics guy

[arctic drift]

gonna work on that dank monolithic architecture

i hate physics

[cloud hearth]

do people take friday after thanksgiving off too? my deadline is monday and i need to reach my recruiter lol

[mental frigate]

How many days do companies take as off days during thanksgiving?

[cursive loom]

Billy can you make cars 4 plz

[arctic drift]

Only if you propose to me

[cursive loom]

uwu

[arctic drift]

Why are you up this early

[cursive loom]

It's 8

Dumbass

I am dumbass

[arctic drift]

That’s so early

Wth

[cursive loom]

Also I tend to either get up

At 5

Or 10

[arctic drift]

Dw it’s 5 for me 😎

[cursive loom]

uwu

[arctic drift]

Should I just pull an all nighter

[cursive loom]

Don't you have finals

To study for

[arctic drift]

I’ve been coding

I have one final left in like two weeks though

[cursive loom]

Lmao

Coding what

[arctic drift]

But lots of programming assignments to do 😎

[cursive loom]

Smh

You're not even dedicated to cryptography

I don't know you

[arctic drift]

Sir look

[cursive loom]

Our consistent hashing

[arctic drift]

I spent the entire semester ditching class

So now I have to learn what perceptron is

[cursive loom]

I spend every semester ditching class

[arctic drift]

So I can code it and gtfo

[cursive loom]

I don't even know what a machine is

[arctic drift]

You know

I know a guy w a good quote

You can always retake the class

But you can never relive the party

I think I’m just going to retake the class

😎

[cursive loom]

The god himself gg

[arctic drift]

It’s party time

Let’s consistently hash

[cursive loom]

Banana party

No one else allow

Hash club only

[arctic drift]

As soon as our crypto club is supported

We’ll be unstoppable

[wind acorn]

you mad lad

[cursive loom]

Viva pinatas

[arctic drift]

Iva-vay emocracy-day

[cursive loom]

Igpay atinlay illway ebay issedmay

[arctic drift]

Ityay asway onlyyay ethay eginningbay

Eriessay Ayay erehay eway omecay

[languid orbit]

Why tf is Wish paying so much????

[honest knoll]

fun fact for canadians: wish apparently pays the same salary everywhere, so you can live in canada and still earn that US money for realz

[undone totem]

I think Palantir also does this

[honest knoll]

Uber does it for interns only i think

[dire ferry]

Reddit started doing it too I believe

[somber turtle]

!salary BlackRock

[feral marten]

Unable to locate data on Blackrock

[orchid ibex]

woah

wish pays so much since when

[autumn lynx]

It’s all that money from partnering with the Lakers

[dark jewel]

https://www.levels.fyi/company/Wish/salaries/Software-Engineer/

167k new grad in toronto 👀

[lime pawn]

Is it too late to apply for new grad 2021 positions now?

[sleek ingot]

no

[lime pawn]

But most of the companies have already hired new grads, right?

[dark jewel]

a bunch are still going

and some haven't even opened yet

[digital carbon]

hiring will pick up again in the spring, it's slowing down now because of holiday season

[lime pawn]

Oh okay, that gives me some hope

I wanted to add my final semester projects in. Hence, I didn’t apply to companies fearing a rejection due to lack of quality projects

*projects in my resume

[tardy sequoia]

Did I get mentioned in this chat? I got a notification lol

[lime pawn]

My bad, sorry

[tardy sequoia]

oh you’re chill

gl my dude!

[lime pawn]

Thanks

[vocal carbon]

@dark jewel if you're a 2x wish intern returning for ft I believe it's 180+k base

[dark jewel]

Jesus

What the hell

How many people have interned at wish twice though?

The company only has like 200 engineers

[vocal carbon]

I know of 2 people I think

[dark jewel]

do you go to waterloo?

[fast siren]

Has anyone gotten success applying to Google's roles that don't specify "new grad" but do not require experience?

[vocal carbon]

Yes sir

[dark jewel]

Ah. Yeah, none of the kids who intern at wish twice end up going back though

Wish -> Citadel is super common

[vocal carbon]

loooool i swear i've seen way too many wish->citadels

wish->bloomberg a bit too

[vocal carbon]

Does anyone know what clear street actually does

[zinc knoll]

Pretty sure its back office services for firms large enough to need it but small enough not to have their own dedicated team

[vocal carbon]

thanks!

[worthy cedar]

@vocal carbon did u get an offer

[vocal carbon]

Nope, never applied. Just curious

[worthy cedar]

ah ic

yea i mean i've read their site 3 times and i still don't even know what they rly do tbh LOL

but what oji says seems to make sense

[vocal carbon]

Ya I was thinking something that just provides data about different instruments to use to create your strats

tbf i have a friend who's joining next year and even he doesn't know properly what they do

[worthy cedar]

can i dm?

[vocal carbon]

sure

[digital carbon]

That seems like a downgrade

Unless someone really wants to be in NYC

[vocal carbon]

Well a lot of people don't wanna work on a online dollar store

I've friends who are going wish->startups too

I don't think I actually know anyone going to wish ft

[digital carbon]

That makes sense lol

[azure gull]

Anyone know how much IBM pays new grad engineers in high cost of living cities?

[dark jewel]

That rarely happens, it sounds like a horror story to convince people to pay excessive fees to a financial planner

[merry mortar]

@azure gull check levels.fyi but i think it’s something like 130k in San Jose

[trim bridge]

@azure gull dm me

[azure gull]

Thanks!

[azure gull]

Will do

[dark jewel]

@atomic star those are literally the only 2 cases that it happened in and companies don’t structure their RSU’s like that anymore because of it

[marsh geyser]

hey all, sorry if this isn’t the right channel to ask but how much harder would you say new grad interviews are compared to intern interviews at Google and Fb?

[visual lagoon]

Only if they gave out new grad interviews this year..

[thorny plover]

Hi! I have doubt. Like I am from India and if I apply to positions for abroad, what additional things i need to take care about(if any)? I'm asking because I don't see much openings of many companies in India but there are plenty of them abroad.

[sly saffron]

@marsh geyser New grad interviews at Google and Facebook are more difficult than intern interviews. The reason being for intern interviews you only have phone round whereas for new grads you have onsite as well.

[worthy spear]

My recruiter accepted my connection request on LinkedIn but did not respond to my email...should I email her today?

[cursive loom]

Summer of the previous year

Interview from Sept to dec

[worthy cedar]

salesforce comp looks p gud

r they like ms, where they have competitive entry/new grad positions but then fall off hard with higher yoe?

[kind bough]

how do people feel about Amazon vs SIG?

very similar offers in terms of TC

[wind acorn]

SWE at both? @kind bough

[cunning forge]

breakdown of tc?

[balmy nest]

Hi All, i have akuna capital interview comming up for C++ developer role, any good resources or suggestions for prep?

[burnt karma]

Is it a good idea to apply to roles during this thanksgiving/holiday season break?

Or is it better to pause until the hiring season is at it's peak again?

[wind acorn]

wtf Appian

that's really good for VA/DC area

[spring verge]

I think it's fine to apply assuming they treat apps like a FIFO queue. If you're emailing a recruiter you probably wanna wait till monday so that emails don't get lost in the inbox over break

[mystic mica]

god bless gmail's schedule send

love composing an email at 4:45am and I can just send it at 10:30am like a normal person

[snow canopy]

Are there any companies still hiring? Anyone still applying to places?

plz @ me

[wind acorn]

@snow canopy the PittCSC GitHub w/ new grad roles might be helpful

https://github.com/Pitt-CSC/NewGrad-2021

[burnt karma]

@snow canopy , A lot of companies are still hiring. I've applied to around 15 this past week.

[burnt karma]

Thanks buddy!

[thorny plover]

Is there any website to search for these openings?

[drowsy sentinel]

I regularly check the job search on glassdoor and linkedin

[thorny plover]

Okay

[kind bough]

@wind acorn yea SWE at both, @cunning forge equal TC after year 1 with SIG's base about 25k higher than Amazon's (Amazon is typical new grad offer)

[daring bough]

👀

the witching hour

[sinful sail]

How long are deadlines for interns to full time return offers?

[strange moth]

depends on company

[dark jewel]

@kind bough I've got a friend who interned at both Amazon and SIG and he liked SIG significantly more

Also, 170k in PA will go significantly further than 170k in Seattle

SIG also has faster salary growth

[proven summit]

In past few years no US company is hiring international candidates, ofc there are exceptions but too few. Your best chance would be EU.

[thorny plover]

Oh..thanks for the info!

[proven summit]

Past season i applied to around 80 international positions. Got rply from 5 all from EU and all of them were FANG/Unicorn.

Also your profile needs to be extremely good to be even considered.

[thorny plover]

Oh! How was your experience interviewing there?'

[proven summit]

pretty good, got into FB London

[cunning forge]

hmm imo this is a rough one because it’s tier 2 tech vs tier 2 finance. there is no clear ‘right option’ but I’m just gonna list some considerations you should keep in mind

SIG

pros

• compensation will grow a lot faster than amazon
• better benefits, free food etc
• liquid compensation
• lower CoL in philly
• can be adjacent to trading if that interests you
• smaller company so maybe a bit less feeling like a cog

cons

• you are secondary to traders / quants (this varies firm to firm but I’ve heard SIG is super trader focused and you will feel the effects of this, trader year 1 tc at SIG is 225 [150 base/50 bonus/25 sign] and I assume yours is a bit lower base and bonus?)
• working on proprietary internal systems and tooling, little open source usage
• might consolidate yourself to particular kinds of work if you remain at SIG long enough (this can be both a good and bad thing just depends on if you like the work and roles r available)
• philly can be boring
• though SIG isn’t large, it isn’t small either and there’s prob gonna be some degree of bureaucracy

Amazon

pros

• you will learn a lot, products must be scaled for a ton of users and amazon is v established with an aggressive culture so there should be solid protocols and procedures in place (think of it like learning to swim by jumping into the ocean)
• name is ofc very recognizable to literally anyone if you want to jump firms, likely easier to place into equivalent level (not sure how SIG’s swe leveling system works)
• more open source stuff and you might get to work on products that are more interesting to you

cons

• pip and stress / politics culture mean amazon is no walk in the park
• obviously worse qol on amazon cash compensation bc higher col cities

[sinful hawk]

For offers do companies give the total number of shares you get, or is it a dollar amount? My recruiter told me how much my shares are worth but on offer it’s just total shares that I will own in 4 years

[high thunder]

Sometimes you get offered shares sometimes dollar amount

[wind acorn]

holy cow I was just watching a video on Youtube about this couple that moved into an apartment in NYC and had to pay a $15k upfront for it on brokers fees and security deposits

rip signing bonus

[digital carbon]

@wind acorn yea moving is expensive rip

[dark jewel]

Lol, I saw that millennial money episode too. Paying 7.5k to a housing broker to find you an apartment is ridiculous

[midnight harbor]

People starting jobs in Jan- have y’all done background checks/on boarding stuff already? I saw a post on blind about someone’s start date getting pushed back bc of a background check company taking too long and am a bit worried that I haven’t gotten any info

[digital carbon]

@midnight harbor yea my background check is already completed

On-boarding stuff will be done before or during the first week of work though

Like I-9 and shit

[tidal hazel]

@midnight harbor im starting february, and so far all silence, but im hoping that starts soom

[digital carbon]

How do you recommend going about it

I feel like a lot of people end up working with a broker for the piece of mind

Unless I'm misunderstanding the context

[midnight harbor]

How long did that take? Is it worth reaching out to my HR and just being like I haven’t received any info lmk if there’s anything I should do?

[digital carbon]

the background check took a week and a half to clear

when is your start date? doesn't hurt to reach out to HR if it's concerning you

[weary ice]

Anyone here do the Citrix final round? Would like to know what they asked in the 4 rounds.

[midnight harbor]

Jan 6- maybe I’ll wait another week then. Ty!

[digital carbon]

yea if you don't hear anything about in a week then definitely reach out to HR

[dark jewel]

most of my friends just found places on craigslist

I personally knew i wanted to live in a condo, so i opened google maps and looked at the general area i wanted to live

then i looked at the website for each condo for prices and stuff like that

the ones that didn't have specific prices listed, i'd call

[wind acorn]

What location? @dark jewel

[dark jewel]

worked in SF, Seattle, and NYC

[wind acorn]

Does SF/Bay Area have something like Streeteasy for NYC

[dark jewel]

i'd imagine it will work in any first world country with internet

not that I'm aware of

try padpiper

oh, they renamed to kopa and rebranded for just short term rentals

never mind

now that i think about it, i can definitely see a world where people spend 7.5k to skip that process. It probably took me like 10-15 hours of calling and browsing to find a place i wantd

you can only do it during the day too, because leasing offices are like 9-5 most of the time

[vocal carbon]

Come to Europe my dude

Finding an apartment in berlin was probably the hardest thing I've ever done in my life

[digital carbon]

Yea life is just easier when you can get someone else to do the work for you lol

I agree tho 7.5k just for that is a lot

[vocal carbon]

Sf/boston/nyc/Toronto were a breeze compared to it

[mental frigate]

@vocal carbon using zillow?

[vocal carbon]

A mixture of padpiper, Craigslist, zillow, airbnb

Padmapper too

fb groups too actually!

Fb groups are probs better esp if you're looking for a room in an appt

You get to pre vet people as a lot of people are actually active on fb etc

This one's great for sf imo: https://www.facebook.com/groups/317688158367767/?ref=share

There's also the usual ones "housing in xx" city etc

[mental frigate]

Thanks @vocal carbon

[subtle field]

Think I saw that. Was that the couple where the girl was a data scientist at Spotify and the guy was a lawyer? NYC is mad expensive

[sullen forge]

Does Bloomberg need any specific tech in resume to move forward? I applied 2-3 times and every time I get auto reject ..Any help is appreciated !

[atomic pivot]

i havent even gotten a rejection yet

[wind acorn]

yep!

@vocal carbon you da real MVP tysm

[autumn lynx]

same. i wanna know. i keep getting rejected too

[brittle bobcat]

Bloomberg just expects one FANG company in my experience.

[autumn lynx]

It’s rng

[echo cedar]

Pretty sure they just expect one relevant experience and 3.0+ gpa

i got autorejected when applying <3.0gpa fwiw

[tame latch]

^

I don’t think rng

Got bb interviews every year

[vocal carbon]

I don't have gpa at all on resume got the interview

No faang either

[tame latch]

Maybe they like a certain style

You don’t need fang , I got bb phone even with no name companies

[sweet vigil]

Does JPMC sponsor?

[azure gull]

Me looking at apartments near the company after I get an oa

[uneven condor]

anyone still recruiting even tho u've accepted an offer already?

[terse umbra]

I am yeah

[digital carbon]

Idts because I got in as a sophomore and had only interned at a no name company before

Some interns speculated that BB actively recruits from schools that faang dont recruit at

Because when people have offers from bloomberg and some other faang, they almost always go to faang

So from a yield perspective, it could be more worthwhile for bloomberg's recruiting team to focus on schools where faang don't actively recruit

Like mine :)

[uneven condor]

when companies ask about pending offers do u tell them about it or just lie LOL

[tidal hazel]

So yearly bonus, is that paid every quarter or all together at the end of the fiscal year?

[mortal temple]

depends on the company

[terse umbra]

haven't interviewed TOO much but when I do bring up the offer I say that I have an offer deadline coming up

I feel like as long as you keep it vague there's really no issue, and for me unfortunately it's been a tough recruiting season so I haven't been able to get any other offers yet so it hasn't been an issue

[echo cedar]

@uneven condor still recruiting even though I accepted return offer, and you don't have to mention any names/details, pretty much only detail I provide are deadlines. Unless you're negotiating ig

[worthy cedar]

@uneven condor alrdy accepted offer and still recruitin. and i AINT gonna mf STOP

[azure gull]

Never hurts to try to get a better offer after accepting an offer

[pure palm]

msft

[radiant shore]

@primal summit "faang"

Most of us not yet there

[primal summit]

but ur also right, that sounded like a humble brag. And I HATE that shit lol, so imma delete my comment.

I'll just say no, I got an offer and stopped interviewing. Focusing on graduating now

[subtle field]

Smart bc applying to jobs is really a full time job

[proud thunder]

anyone recently do amazon's 3 rounder final? looking for advice please

[visual lagoon]

Anyone heard back or waiting to hear back from the last Walmart superweek (15-21)?

[dry mural]

@zets

@visual lagoon they are off this week

so if you had a super week the week before thanksgiving

you will prolly hear back this week

iirc Seattle, Hoboken, Bay Area

are filled

so Texas, AK and maybe reston might have room

source: my recruiter

[visual lagoon]

yeah that's what I'm assuming, just wanted to see if anyone heard back before thanksgiving break

but thanks for the info 👍

[dry mural]

yeee

i got my offer 11/20

got verbal 11/19

offer 11/20

interview 11/12

GL

[dry mural]

anyone here take Walmart Labs offer in Reston VA?

[zinc cypress]

Anyone know if Bloomberg ever calls to reject

[wind acorn]

@brisk jolt are you going to be in seattle? or what office

[steel drum]

My Square codeSignal request got expired. Then I copy pasted the test link from the application and got another 14 days time. Good thing 😄

Ohh man..

Yea I can feel you!

[digital carbon]

that's ridiculous, companies have no respect for candidates' time. they just want their pipelines to be saturated so that they never run out of candidates smh

[wind acorn]

this is why take homes should not be normalized ffs

[digital carbon]

what I really hate about take homes is that you could spend 10 hours on it

and then the person reviewing it could just take 15 minutes to gloss over it

it's not an even trade at all

[crimson shale]

glad someone else is willing to call it out

[shrewd blade]

When negotiating an offer, should it be done only by phone?

or is it ok to do by email

[orchid ibex]

email is fine

just dont be formal

can come across as rude

[feral mantle]

reposting from #resume
Okay so last night was a rude awakening.
Heres where Im at (attached is my resume to give you specifics):

• I have no internships
• I have minimal personal projects
• I graduate in march, although i can push that to june
• I do really poorly with leetcode questions

Im willing to cut all the time I spend in my classes such that I get a 2.0 in there. Ive been applying everywhere I can find.
You guys seem to have it figured out. Where would be the best place to invest my time over the next four to six months to improve my chances of getting hired

Im looking more for recommendations on how to best invest my time. Im sure the answer is not 4 solid months of leetcode, but Im also sure its not no leetcode/all projects. I just have no bearing on where I need to be.

[unkempt echo]

do you plan to go to grad school at all?

[arctic drift]

^

I had no internships and got a few offers, don't know if that's because I also decided to do grad school along with undergrad or different reasons

but it's also just a numbers game

[high thunder]

@formal loom is that a bojack reference

[unkempt echo]

this was just a very strong grad school resume so i was curious

[feral mantle]

Id only do that with something like a professional masters program /do it after a few years of working.

[flint halo]

what’s your current response rate?

[feral mantle]

I have no desire to work FAANG out of school.

[unkempt echo]

you can dm me if you want more in depth opinion

[flint halo]

and how many applications

[feral mantle]

about 1/20

[arctic drift]

I think you should be fine with research experience

after that it's just a numbers game

and you need to get your lc exp on point

before they shaft you with lc questions imo