2021_summer

[raven creek]

Dude have you checked out TS?

It solves so many annoyances with JS

[lone orbit]

What did JS do tho?

[rugged mango]

doesn't fix the annoying syntax

i'm a C++/python main

i do LC in c++

[raven creek]

Well, atleast its better than Java's verbose Syntax xD

[silk ridge]

go is super easy of you know c++/python lol

[lone orbit]

Just here to hype rust up

[frosty ginkgo]

hi wungus

bigfatchungus

[rugged mango]

i literally code in python ~~everyday ~~5 days a week, but i love c++ for LC rather than python

STL and pointers feel more right to me

[tidal kelp]

!process amazon oa

[small fossil]

You can only use this command in #2021_grad_process or #2021_intern_process

[raven creek]

Second that lol. For some questions, functions like upper bound and lower bound come in clutch

[sweet pollen]

Is anyone else in a team in which almost everyone works at least a little bit at night?

How common is that? Is it because of WFH?

[charred roost]

I'm not on a team that works at night but I think it could just be bc of WFH

[night surge]

yeah its normal for WFH since sometimes Im too tired to finish something up

quick nap then back to it

[rugged mango]

[abstract wagon]

Bro there is no night time in my team it's just work 24/7

pulled 9am-3am last week 🙂

[dapper shard]

tell them no

[abstract wagon]

[dapper shard]

ngl id actually tell them no. regardless of what they expect of me

im a fucking intern. like i don't even get benefits to be working as long as the full time workers

[rugged mango]

bruh 🤡 4th day of my internship and I have a 2022 OA for new grad

time to leetcode during work

[frosty ginkgo]

Only a 9-3 bruh not that bad /s

[abstract wagon]

yeah dw I'm sure i'll pull a 9-9 soon

[prime prairie]

Im sleepy everyday

[raven creek]

I should be working, but I'm seeing the Windows 11 stream lmao

[charred roost]

Lmao

Windows 11 looking more like 10.5

But the visual updates are nice

[raven creek]

Yupp.. But looks like Windows at last natively supports Android apps

[charred roost]

Yeah that’s pretty cool

the performance updates should be nice too

Apparently it runs a lot smoother than windows 10

[raven creek]

Hope the update doesnt break drivers 😂

[charred roost]

They’re emphasizing that windows is compatible with everything so I hope it doesn’t break anything too lol

Also lmao the subtle jab at Apple with the developer fees

[raven creek]

😂😂

I was thinking the same

[rugged mango]

wtf windows is updating?

[raven creek]

They just announced the features. They still havent said how or when theyre releasing it lol

[charred roost]

Yeah new version, Windows 11

Speaking of windows updates

Apparently windows 11 will update in the background now

[rugged mango]

didn't they say Windows 10 is the last

[charred roost]

Kinda like linux

So you only need to reboot

[charred roost]

They never officially said that

[raven creek]

Oooo thats big

[charred roost]

It was just some employee claiming that

[charred roost]

Updates will also be a lot smaller so they're gonna be super quick now

[lunar dagger]

Thank god

No more auto restarting to update in the middle of an interview

[charred roost]

I've been kinda lucky with windows updates

Never had it update while I was using it

[lime heron]

Well my first PR failed and all I had to do was copy some files to a different repository lmfao

[sweet pollen]

Gosh it’s so obvious that my mentor knows that I’m a dunce

[pliant hawk]

I feel this

[rugged mango]

bruh it's just me and my mentor on my project so imma get babied like hell 😎 in data infra which is exactly what i want to do 😎

[low epoch]

self aware idiots gang

[dark junco]

Wtf

[coral geode]

my mentor is nice my buddy is bro and my manager is king

with that said I am still lost AF

[coral geode]

what company are you at so I can avoid? im legit worried about you

[solemn frost]

deloitte i think

[sweet pollen]

I miss school. School is so much easier than this

[solemn frost]

easier than what

[sweet pollen]

My internship

[lapis summit]

is the 9 to 5 really that bad

damn

i mean i guess money is motivation

[solemn frost]

i find school harder

but i also think there are less concequences to failing at my internship

bc concequence of failing at internship -> no return offer but u still get exp
concequence of failing at school -> retake class / take longer for degree / wasting time

i dont find money motivating either

[lime heron]

true plus there's no homework from internship, i feel like im less tired after working as opposed to being at school all day

[solemn frost]

that might be bc i havent rly used any money that ive been earning for like the past 10 months

[solemn frost]

some people get super overworked from internship too though i think

[sweet pollen]

At school I feel freer to ask stupid questions

[solemn frost]

so it might be more than 9-5 for some people

[solemn frost]

why do you not feel ok asking stupid questions at job

[sweet pollen]

Since I know that asking them won’t impact my grade

[sweet pollen]

Because it makes my mentor know I’m a dunce and thus not want to give me a return offer

[solemn frost]

but asking questions and learning is purpose of internship

[lapis summit]

isnt asking questions better tho

[lime heron]

yeah fair point. it is different from school, you're working on a team with experienced engineers which can be intimidating but at the same time i think (or rather i hope) most people would be understanding

[solemn frost]

asking questions is better

[lime heron]

i ask a ton of questions even though i feel a little awkward

but i still am silent during meetings 😅

[solemn frost]

asking questions shows initiative and ability to learn

even if u ask something thats already been answered, i think thats ok? i do that too

since im really bad at listening to people

[lime heron]

i would think not asking questions would be more concerning to them, and like elbows said shows initiative. im trying not to worry about return offer too much so i can just focus on learning

[lime heron]

yeah same i forgot everyone's names right after they told me when i was introduced to my team

[solemn frost]

not even stuff like name lmao, like i miss stuff in the directions when someones talking to me

i've fully accepted it since im a completely remote intern

[lime heron]

oh gosh yeah if i can't even remember names how bad do you think i am at remembering verbal directions T_T

[solemn frost]

yeah

i try to combat it by typing while people are talking

but then i miss stuff bc im typing

reminds me why i cant deal with lectures in class

another reason why im worse at school

[sweet pollen]

Text communication is so much better

The downside being that it’s slower, of course

[solemn frost]

yea i completely agree

[sweet pollen]

All meetings should be recorded (at least the audio), so that you can go back and relisten to them if you missed something important

[solemn frost]

man sometimes after a meeting

it feels like i slide into managers dms and is like “ok wait what just happened” lmao

[sweet pollen]

Lol

I just ignore meetings and keep coding if it’s not my turn to talk. My mentor seems to do the same

[solemn frost]

also i have this dumb problem where its like whenever i take a break feels like i completely forget where i was at before i took the break

so like everyday i need to do a full review in what i did / what i need to do next

jits rly annoying

and i have thos running todo list thing too

but idk i add details to make sure ik what to do and then it becomes too many details and then i dont understand my own notes

[abstract wagon]

Deloitte

BUT HEY GOOD NEWS

The co op office is supporting me

And they're like aight fuck Deloitte leave whenever you want we got your back

[charred roost]

That's nice to hear

[abstract wagon]

yes yes 🙂

[dapper shard]

this is true

[lime heron]

yeah i dont feel anywhere near exhausted as i do when in school. i just feel constantly burnt out. i actually have time to do things now i feel like which is refreshing

[dapper shard]

when full time work is less full time than full time school

[pliant hawk]

No homework is a blessing

[lime heron]

it really is. i feel like there's a better balance. i dont have that constant lingering panic in my mind about school

[lunar dagger]

That's actually awesome

[abstract wagon]

Imagine not having anxiety after you logg off at 2am

Totally doesn't describe my life

[lunar dagger]

that's so oddddd

Dude I'm glad you can ditch deloitte 0 reprecussions

[abstract wagon]

I mean idegaf about the reprecussions tbh

deloitte can suck a dick

for all i care

[lunar dagger]

Yeah, but it's good that the internship office is supporting you

[pliant hawk]

Yup once I log off my mind is free whereas for school I’d be thinking about the next test

[lunar dagger]

Honestly with treatment like the kind you're going thru

I hope they cut connections with deloitte

like 75hr work weeks with unpaid overtime

is not okay

for full time let alone an internship

[lunar dagger]

same here

like as soon as my workday's over

I go on aand chill with friends

[pliant hawk]

Rn my mind is free cuz no one helping me on how to fix this one thing

[lunar dagger]

I don't have to stay home and study or anything

[lunar dagger]

lmaoo

[pliant hawk]

Yea being able to go out is nice

[lunar dagger]

dude same sitch here

like I'm setting up a new env

[pliant hawk]

My mentor said he would help me post lunch. It’s fkn 3pm man

[lunar dagger]

to work on a new portion of the codebase

[pliant hawk]

Setting up never ends

[lunar dagger]

and everyone;s too busy to help me out

[pliant hawk]

[abstract wagon]

My senior was like bro you need some weed let me come drop some off

I'm like you dumbass I already have asthma you want me to die

[charred roost]

Bruh

[lunar dagger]

lmao wtf

[charred roost]

Deloitte really trynna kill you out here

[abstract wagon]

I love her she's the best, literally has helped me through this place LOL

she's leaving soon too

She's the only person I like on this team

[pliant hawk]

When you leaving

[abstract wagon]

July 16th resignation

August 1st last day + Going to Brussels

[pliant hawk]

Ooooo it’s getting close to it

[abstract wagon]

Taking a vacation

LOL

[charred roost]

You deserve it lol

[lunar dagger]

bro you need it

[charred roost]

Enjoy your vacation dude

[abstract wagon]

My brother is speaking at a machine learning conference and they're letting me come along

Cause Facebook and Samsung I believe sponsor his research

[lunar dagger]

wait that's dope

[charred roost]

Damn that’s dope

[abstract wagon]

Yeah I got lucky LOL

[lime heron]

Brussels is so beautiful, have you been before? I loved Bruges as well

[abstract wagon]

never been

[lime heron]

I loved it, I went a while ago and it was so amazing. Amsterdam is still my favorite though, it looks like another world

[abstract wagon]

ahh i'm excited, Germany is my favorite

been so many times

[lime heron]

Hopefully you have a relaxing time, working 9AM to 3AM is not okay yo

[abstract wagon]

Tell me about it LOL I'm gonna hibernate when I come back

for a bit

[lime heron]

Never been to Germany! Heard it's amazing, my brother absolutely loved Hamburg

[abstract wagon]

ahhh I love Dortmund

Been a big fan of the team aswell from when I was a kid

[lime heron]

I wanna move to Europe after school but I've heard they don't pay devs so much over there but maybe happiness > money is something to consider

[abstract wagon]

yeah they pay peanuts tbh

[lime heron]

unfortunate :/

[abstract wagon]

agreed

[lime heron]

i guess i will spend my happiness making money

and spend my money on things that make me happy

and it will never end until i retire

[solemn frost]

what do u guys spend internship money on besides rent/tuition

[lime heron]

im living at home so no rent plus im on scholarship. i dont leave my house too often so i've just been saving. what about y'all?

[solemn frost]

at home and saving for rent/tuition mainly. bought iphone 12 mini recently though

[lime heron]

noice

how do you like it? im on a busted samsung still

i was thinking about getting a new car but it's like ehhh... my car looks like shit but still gets me from a to b

[rugged mango]

more school is literally negative moneys

bad job is 0 moneys

[solemn frost]

updating from the 2016 iphone se so p decent upgrade

[solemn frost]

yea i can't drive where my uni is anyway so not gonna deal with car til i graduate

[solemn frost]

also yeah exactly

[lime heron]

yeah that makes sense. i was going to get an auto loan from the bank to build my credit but idk if i even want to go through all the hassle of looking for a new car when it's almost july and 115 degrees out

[solemn frost]

oh that temp sounds like death

[lime heron]

yeah once it gets over 105 it's way too much

[abstract wagon]

i was going to buy a lot of drip

but my parents made me save it

i ended up buying a goose and common projects

[charred roost]

grokking lol

[pliant hawk]

The arcade so I can play ddr

[fluid kettle]

like a bird

oh lmao

[jolly mantle]

Lol

[fluid kettle]

i know nothing about 'drip'

probably why i have no gf

just wanted to farm some sadges

[gaunt mirage]

Hamburger

[rugged mango]

imagine having eextra internship money to spend 😔

[solemn frost]

how stupid is it to have 2 full time jobs at the same time

[rugged mango]

why would you ever

unless you're like borderline about to go homeless or something

[solemn frost]

to try two different things

okay so in short

very stupid

[obtuse pivot]

@solemn frost ik someone in canada doing it

he makes 400k combined tc

[solemn frost]

how long has he been doing it

[obtuse pivot]

no idea , he told me he half asses the easier of the 2 ,

[solemn frost]

both swe?

[obtuse pivot]

yep

[solemn frost]

damn

im just thinking 2 months with the other in a non swe field

[obtuse pivot]

ur doing 2 jobs @solemn frost ?

[solemn frost]

no im not but considering

not rn

[obtuse pivot]

ah

[rugged mango]

well i mean do what you want

but if you want a life

[solemn frost]

my life isnt anything anyway living at home w/ parents w/ no friends around tbh

[rugged mango]

oof

but i mean my friend groups have always knew how to socialize at a distance

skype -> discord

[lapis summit]

dont u have to report if u do two jobs on ur w4

so a company would know

or w2

some type of tax form

[solemn frost]

oh hm

[vivid lintel]

The W2 form is something that each employer you work for provides you

And you submit those W2s when filing taxes

[lapis summit]

ah, so they don’t look at them but they just help u make a copy

[vivid lintel]

They might find out somehow, but I don't think it would be in that specific manner

[vivid lintel]

Well not really a copy per se

A W2 itself is proof that the employer paid you a certain amount in a year

The employer creates the W2

[lapis summit]

ah

i know nothing about tax stuff lmao, thanks

[vivid lintel]

Yea me neither, I only know the bare minimum that I need lmao

[rugged mango]

oh ok

ty

[solemn frost]

why would it matter if they found out tho

[lapis summit]

cuz ur not at ur optimal working condition

idk if it matters much for internships

[sweet pollen]

My mentor just asked me the last day of my internship. What does that mean?

[charred roost]

Probably just trynna get an idea of when the intern program ends

My manager forgets from time to time lol

[lunar dagger]

Yeah don't read too much into it

[gaunt mirage]

My manager said he would hire me again next year if I wanted to

[pliant hawk]

Like a return offer?

[gaunt mirage]

Yeah maybe

[rugged mango]

anyone else being led through an entire SDLC?

[sweet pollen]

Uh

So apparently at Salesforce our relocation allowance is deducted from our paycheck?

TIL

I don’t know if I’m misreading this chart or not, actually

Nvm I am misreading it

[charred roost]

Lol yeah sometimes payslips can be hard to read

[pliant hawk]

I think I got a reimbursement for supplies in a check of it’s own and in the regular paycheck

Free 100 bucks

[charred roost]

Epic

[sweet pollen]

TFW taxes:

[charred roost]

Taxation is theft

[stray spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-offerman-ron-swanson-income-tax-income-tax-is-illegal-parks-and-rec-gif-11011272

[sage hinge]

Manager finally accepted my 1k expensify report

[round osprey]

Imagine getting expensify reports as intern intern

[stiff vessel]

taxation is theft

[teal flower]

How many interviews does Google have for swes?

[abstract wagon]

I think it's OA+phone+onsite with 3 coding and 1 behavioural

[formal finch]

For interns?

[abstract wagon]

New grad sorry

For intern it's two phones + OA

[green salmon]

anyone here interning at tesla

[shrewd karma]

Search “!process Tesla offer” and you’ll have better chances there

[abstract wagon]

wait

i need to re interview

a returning intern for goolge?

[charred roost]

I don't think so

I thought Google got rid of interviews for interns

for return offers

[green salmon]

thank u at oops

[granite stag]

Where?

[charred roost]

in #2021_intern_process

[abstract wagon]

shiet

im a rising senior

is it worth to apply for google intern

or jut go for thhe new grad yolo

[charred roost]

i think you have to apply for new grad

bc most internships require you to have at least one term of school after the internship

and if you're a rising senior, I assume you graduate in May

meaning you won't have another fall term after the internship

But you can try applying for Fall 2021 internships though

[sweet pollen]

What is the point of mid-internship check-ins with recruiters?

[low epoch]

if you are doing badly then they time travel to before you were hired and choose not to hire you

[charred roost]

Just to see how you've adjusted to the company and your team and see how you've been working on your tickets

Also a place for you to ask questions to your manager about your performance and ask for feedback

[sweet pollen]

I’m having two separate mid-internship check-ins, one with a recruiter and the other one with my manager and my mentor

So I’m wondering about the point of the first one

[charred roost]

Oh I see

Yeah I'm not sure about that either tbh

Could be a return offer thing maybe? Idk maybe if a recruiter is involved, they might discuss your options

[sweet pollen]

Pretty sure all interns get a mid-internship check-in with a recruiter

At my company

The recruiter sent one email to everybody with my smart date

[sacred glade]

what do y’all talk about during the check-in

[lunar dagger]

Typically performance and how you're doing

My mentor did like a reverse check in with me

And wanted to know how him/the team were doing and what they could do better to help me

Which I found cool

[sweet pollen]

I have the meeting with my mentor and manager in about one hour

Can’t wait to be told how much I suck and am slow

My mentor looked more somber than usual in our standup today, as if he’s expecting to have an unpleasant meeting soon

[solemn frost]

lmao yea we interns dont get to choose who to work for they choose us

most people just go with first offer

[frail python]

That’s like one of the worst answers u can say even if it’s true

Hope they aren’t looking for return offer lol

R u looking for return

cuz if not Doenst matter

Yea next time just say something about people, culture, stack, product or other people u asked

That’s always a go to answer no matter what the reason for choosing

[stray spoke]

Gotta be diplomatic

[slim creek]

cant be honest with these corporations

always gotta suck them off

[rugged mango]

yeah never say this lmao

that's like

why do you want to work here?

money

WHY ELSE WOULD I WANT TO WORK

anyone exhausted

lc, ft intern, life

[hexed wave]

No. People like when you’re honest

[rugged mango]

yeah personally i like it when others just say it

[abstract wagon]

Atleast you have 4 things all I have is interncause Deloitte has sucked the life out of me and gives me no time for LC

Almost there

[hexed wave]

Don’t do LC then

[rugged mango]

already not 😔 it's just the pressure getting to me

i need to start

[hexed wave]

I feel you bro

But I also want to put my health first over my interview coming up

[rugged mango]

yup, mental is #1

[thorny gorge]

just got this ripple match thing for

BNY Mellons 2021 Sophomore Summit

think it would be worth to go ?

[stray spoke]

Usually these events guarantee an interview, read on the details

[rugged mango]

should i sign up for ripple match

[solemn frost]

what is ripple match

is it free

[rugged mango]

just some software job match thingy for students

[lunar dagger]

it's bumble for internships

[thorny gorge]

thoughts on BNY Mellon ?

[night surge]

It’s good

For recognition in nyc but I heard bad wlb

[lethal ore]

Did applications open up?

[thorny gorge]

no, was matched on ripple match

[night surge]

Sophomore summit

I haven’t heard of that event

[lapis summit]

give me offer please

[abstract wagon]

you already have amazon

[lapis summit]

t-8 days till interview ;-;

[abstract wagon]

time to hit up my recruiters for BNY

[late cypress]

Has anyone ever heard of someone getting a full-time return offer as an incoming junior intern?

[peak crypt]

friend got a FT return from a freshman internship for a big company lmao

[late cypress]

did he take it?

How did that work

[peak crypt]

he turned it down couple months ago

[late cypress]

wack

[rugged mango]

lmao

[rugged mango]

is your guys mentor / boss / person you work under all different?

i have a manager, a senior eng i work under, and a separate mentor

[coral geode]

yeah pretty much

[solemn frost]

used to but my mentor left for diff company

[muted apex]

My manager of team is different from my mentor who is a full time eng

[sweet pollen]

<- TFW no one will review your merge request

[sacred glade]

the manager of my team manages my TL and other engineers

[graceful glade]

I have mentor and a manager but my manager quit so now I have a new manager

[solemn frost]

how much time do u guys take to submit a pull request

[rugged mango]

right after i push my branch

[solemn frost]

how much time do u spend working on your branch?

[rugged mango]

however long it takes to complete the task idk

depends

[solemn frost]

does it vary a lot

[rugged mango]

i'm DE so i probably don't code as much as others here

[solemn frost]

hm okay

[rugged mango]

how many hours per day are yall actually doing something during work hours

[solemn frost]

today was the first day in a long time i managed to understand what to do and actually focused on doing it

[pastel bridge]

2-3 hours + time in meetings

but my team works 9 am-3 pm

[solemn frost]

how much time do you normally spend in meetings

[pastel bridge]

really varies, I try to go to talks and optional stuff so up to 4 hours but usually ~1-2

[rugged mango]

yeah my time is around the same

[sweet pollen]

8

[sweet pollen]

Is there any benefit to going to optional talks/events/meetings?

I pretty much just focus on my project and don’t show up to anything I’m not expected by my mentor to show up to

Not sure if going to intern events would improve my chances of getting a return offer

But probably not if they slow me down

[sinful terrace]

I mean, wouldn’t you want to make new friends/meet new people? Game nights were always super fun

[night surge]

Yeah I’m 4 and 4 but 2 of the 4 meeting hours are working sessions like everyone is in a call

[solemn frost]

for fun yeah

[rugged mango]

when they think fun is not a benefit 😔

isn't socializing/networking/amazing communication more important than being a great engineer?

[coral geode]

my company wants us to go to these sort of events and even prioritize them over our projects

sure acing the project would be a good chance of return offer but what do you know about the company outside of your immediate team

i see the optional events as a good excuse to get paid while taking a break lol

[rugged mango]

^^^^

[low epoch]

yeah they're pretty dumb overall but nice chance to lay back i guess

[turbid river]

Lmao my intern event today is just playing Among Us

[rugged mango]

today my intern event is skribblio

yay

[solemn frost]

do u guys have intern events everyday

[rugged mango]

maybe like 3 times a week

[low epoch]

damn, we only have like 2 "fun" events, the others are speaker series maybe twice a week

[rugged mango]

oh i meant like this

[floral birch]

how plausible is it for companies to let you continue working part time after an internship

[soft hound]

the mentee has become the mentor

[tacit marsh]

y’all gonna burn out with that mentality bruh

or maybe im just not that busy at my internship but the fun events are fun

[fluid kettle]

so far its really difficult to meet new people remotely

[solemn frost]

its hard unless u have interns on your team to make friends

[silk ridge]

just message other interns im sure they feel the same way

and dont want to take initiative

[fluid kettle]

but yeah i go afk during intern events

[hexed wave]

Do you not want to have fun LMAO

[rugged mango]

nah, no offense, but they bleed anxiety and it probably leads to being a no fun try hard , nothing wrong with trying to get that return offer tho

[dark junco]

Bruh that's actually cringe tho

Just enjoy it

[shrewd karma]

when the intern tells HR that you didn't go to some of the onboarding sessions

wtf is it her business about what i do

[sweet pollen]

People have fun during intern events?

[rugged mango]

dang

[solemn frost]

it feels like it would be so much more fun irl

online feels like another meeting

[rugged mango]

yeah

[sweet pollen]

I don’t have fun with anything

Other than very mild fun

[hexed wave]

Yes

I can’t imagine spending my entire internship just doing work

And my internship is only 6 weeks

[night surge]

intern events are so fun

even when I eat an L its still enjoyable

thing is though you need participation

otherwise its just as bad as another meeting

[maiden marlin]

[rugged mango]

i don't get paid enough to relate

[frosty ginkgo]

me who works 1 hr and reports 8

[livid anchor]

Hey y'all interns is anyone getting paid for today if you're not working

[dapper shard]

yeah i personally actually work like 2 or 3 hours and then the rest if me sitting on my phone, watching twitch, or playing osu

[charred roost]

Yeah

I think I get paid for all company holidays during the week

[livid anchor]

Laaaameee

Where u working

We don't get paid 😦

[charred roost]

Glassdoor

[charred roost]

Rip

[frosty ginkgo]

only if i log hrs

[rugged mango]

nope i get paid peanuts anyways

[still tree]

me

literally exactly me

[graceful glade]

damn I honestly don't know, but I think so

[coral geode]

Yes. And floating holiday for Juneteenth

[hollow iron]

my company has this entire week off

[lunar dagger]

yeah I get paid for any time off

[shrewd karma]

wtf what companies have this entire week off

[hollow iron]

hubspot

[solemn frost]

maybe adobe too

[cerulean relic]

anybody have any experience with Quantcast? i applied through ripplematch and i just got told im on the offer stage

[charred roost]

Yeah they do

[exotic hinge]

intuit has entire week off

[jagged mason]

whats the reason ?

is this common for most companies?

[boreal orchid]

I saw Twitch also has the week off

[shrewd karma]

RIP to the on call rotations

[rich dragon]

Does anyone know How to ask your manager for a full time after graduation?

[charred roost]

Usually there will be a performance review meeting

Where you'll discuss getting a return offer

[exotic hinge]

they have the week off for company wide recharge week

[coral geode]

during a performance review or 1:1 "am I on track for a return offer, if not what can I be doing to get on track for one" or something

[lapis summit]

so i start my internship on monday and it turns out my manager is straight up the head of cybersecurity at fidelity

i’m scared

[charred roost]

Damn

Good luck and have fun

[split fractal]

they are all humans at the end of the day, it'll be chill dw

[velvet badge]

My manager is a principal engineer and is 2 levels down from our CTO, I thought it was intimidating asf at first but he’s really chill so you don’t gotta stress

[soft hazel]

heyo, anyone from HRT here? 😄

[round osprey]

@abstract wagon

[abstract wagon]

How am I from HRT

[rugged mango]

being data eng won't cuck me from SWE right

just want to be flexible between data eng and swe

[velvet badge]

It won’t

My SWE internship rn is essentially data engineering

A lot of it is designing systems and you need a decent amount of knowledge of systems design and scalability to understand how everything works

[rugged mango]

i'm not coding much stuff right now, but i don't mind,

[velvet badge]

What are you working with?

[rugged mango]

yeah the senior eng is leading me through trying to scale a system

using Azure

[velvet badge]

What’s your requirement/project?

I’m working with Spark and Kafka rn

[rugged mango]

my project is to replace that system since the eng who made it left without good docs

[velvet badge]

What’s the system do? Analyze/process data?

Damn lol

[rugged mango]

yeah basically

[velvet badge]

I know the feel. A lot of our legacy code has almost no documentation so I’ve had to figure stuff out myself

[charred roost]

Same

[rugged mango]

we're basically building something new and totally ignoring the old system

so i haven't even seen it

just been told of it

[velvet badge]

That’s good

[charred roost]

Like the project has a nice read me but it doesn’t explain shit

[charred roost]

Oh nice

[velvet badge]

I’m working with something new as well, it’s a huge project and my team are the masterminds of it. It’s really cool stuff and huge impact as well

[charred roost]

My overarching task is to move a legacy api to a newer more modular system

And I’m just migrating one feature at a time

[velvet badge]

Nice nice

[charred roost]

It’s pretty cool to see just how things work in the back

It’s pretty inefficient rn lol

[velvet badge]

Ye I’m doing all backend stuff

[charred roost]

Nice

[rugged mango]

i barely code, but it's like all system design

[umbral knot]

H SC RT

[soft hound]

s tripe upercalifragilisticexpialidocious

[solemn frost]

there are still companies looking for 2021 summer interns

just matched with one on ripplematch

[abstract wagon]

xd

[abstract wagon]

it's july tf

[thorny gorge]

anyone get accepted into Greylocks TechFair without doing the codesignal LMFAO

[odd kraken]

yeah

[thorny gorge]

im fking ded

[odd kraken]

i have a feeling they weigh prior experience a lot more than the codesignal

[frail birch]

Is it ok to ask if you’re on track for a return offer in a midpoint evaluation? Or is that too direct

[formal finch]

Yes

[thorny gorge]

ngl most of the companies are hiring < 10 interns tho

[exotic atlas]

did anyone even get rejected

[rugged mango]

#2022_summer message

[exotic atlas]

oh neverm ind lmfao

sorry to hear that

[abstract wagon]

sigh

[muted apex]

my dawg.

im sorry

[abstract wagon]

nothing going my way in life man

I stg

[muted apex]

you told me about an offer you got a few days back tho !

chin up dawg

you can feel like you're at rock bottom

[abstract wagon]

rejected Scotiabank lmao

fuck those guys

[muted apex]

but that means only one way up 📈

[muted apex]

wait why

[abstract wagon]

they wanted me to be a dev for the team that works side by side with Deloitte

and I'm not working with that team

[abstract wagon]

or you can just stay consistently at rock bottom 😦

[charred roost]

^^

[muted apex]

nah

only one way to go

which is up

chin up king your snapback is falling

[charred roost]

you're searching for a job in one of the worst markets bro

[abstract wagon]

I hate snapbacks LMAO

[charred roost]

things will only improve from here

[muted apex]

chin up king your tiara is falling

[abstract wagon]

better

[restive falcon]

we leaving snapbacks in 2015 where they belong

[muted apex]

yo chill

i still wear snapbacks and those "i ❤️ boobies" bracelets

/s

[abstract wagon]

LMFAO those bracelets were jokes

[muted apex]

my dawgs

W's only in 2022

trust me

[abstract wagon]

but I'm super confused man like how did I get rejected from Greylock when I did the codesignal

[muted apex]

what score

[abstract wagon]

and people with 0's got in too

[muted apex]

i got a 710

[abstract wagon]

I was around 600-750 i think

I don't remember exact

[muted apex]

ok bro that's a huge range lol

[abstract wagon]

LOL

[muted apex]

you can check

[abstract wagon]

I think it was 645

[muted apex]

log into your codesignal page

[abstract wagon]

oh kk

let me check

645

Oof I thought I got 745 this whole time

yeah no wonder

I didn't get it

I saw Blend on the list of Companies coming to greylock

such a cool fintech startup

[rugged mango]

are you aiming for fintech swe?

feel like you'd get in easy

[abstract wagon]

it fits nicely with Deloitte I think

Cause I was in Financial Engineering

[abstract wagon]

knowing my luck all Imma get is flipping patties at McDonald's like I did 3-4 years ago

[muted apex]

this makes sense to me

[rugged mango]

🧢 SWE at McDonalds

[muted apex]

i think cut off is 700

at least a 700

[abstract wagon]

But then how does having a 0 qualify them

I might as well have not done the codesignal LOL

[muted apex]

like someone chose NOT to do the codesignal?

or legit opened it and closed it

[abstract wagon]

They opened it

And closed

[muted apex]

that gives you at least a 300

[charred roost]

Acceptances can be sent out in error

[muted apex]

i think lol

i know it sounds dumb

but i opened a codesignal and closed it

and my score was a 300

lol

[charred roost]

They said it's happened before with greylock

[abstract wagon]

[muted apex]

it's ok boss

you don't need greylock

[abstract wagon]

I mean regardless I hope they all still get in a get a good job

[muted apex]

btw dawg

[rugged mango]

i bet they greylock just did random

[muted apex]

you turned down scotia

im really confused why

because arent you like, dying to GTFO?

[abstract wagon]

cause man I don't wanna work with my Deloitte team on the other side

I resigned from Deloitte Monday bro

[muted apex]

oh shit

[abstract wagon]

tomorrow is my last day

[muted apex]

how'd ur manager take it?

[abstract wagon]

He was like aight let me know if you ever wanna come back

Cause I did work faster and more effectively than all the other dumbass interns

[rugged mango]

[abstract wagon]

nah i'm kidding all the other interns were smart asf too

most of them were masters students

I think I was the only bachelors

[rugged mango]

...

🧠

[muted apex]

to be fair

[abstract wagon]

I knew alot of the stats stuff

they asked for

[muted apex]

you have been there for how long now

1 yr?

[abstract wagon]

2.5 months

LOL WHAT

1 Year

[muted apex]

wait

what the crap

didnt you tell me you signed 16 mo?

[abstract wagon]

I started may 3rd bro

I did but I'm leaving

Bro they fucked my health completely

[lunar dagger]

keyword here is signed

[abstract wagon]

I had to get an ECG and like bloodwork done

[lunar dagger]

wait wtf

[abstract wagon]

Cause I started getting serious chest pains

[lunar dagger]

thank god you're getting out man

[muted apex]

naw like

[abstract wagon]

much better now but that shit was an all time low

[charred roost]

Damn, hope you're alright now

[muted apex]

i knew you signed 16 and left early

but i didnt know you were there for so short

because the way you were describing it

i thought u were there for a while

[abstract wagon]

Nah it was hell right from the start bro

I was up Satan's asshole

[muted apex]

cuz the way u were describing it

i was like

holy shit mans been going thru it for some time now

but only 2.5 months?

god damn bro

// lowkey i feel the same at amazon rn lol

[abstract wagon]

yeah it was brutal 2.5 months bro

I don't remember the last day

I slept more than 5 hours

Lowkey I wanna test my life in IB

I think Deloitte has primed me to handle IB

[muted apex]

i rate that

[abstract wagon]

I think I might just start working on my startup tbh

[muted apex]

i used to think i wanted stripe

but i heard wlb has tanked lately

that was the main thing i was attracted too

[abstract wagon]

Yeah man WLB is a big thing

[muted apex]

yeah

tbh

i used to really care bout prestiege and titles and this and that

but then after i started worked for the bezos im like

id rather care about having a good wlb andshit

lol

[true sinew]

damn how much are you guys working?

[muted apex]

i have a tight deadline

[abstract wagon]

I work 60-100 hour weeks

[muted apex]

lately been sleeping at 2am-3am lately

[abstract wagon]

Working weekends and 9am-3 am sometimes

[charred roost]

Damn

[true sinew]

what the fuck? as interns?

[muted apex]

my project is due soon, is all

[abstract wagon]

Yeah I had 3 projects from three different banksn

[muted apex]

so it's ramping up

[abstract wagon]

Banks *

[muted apex]

need to prepare my demo / presentation n shit

so it's a bit of work

[abstract wagon]

And I was basically handling the client side meeting with directors and managing directors + senior managers

[muted apex]

but i will say one thing - im learning a lot

rather get my ass eaten now than later

[abstract wagon]

Yeah I feel that

But I didn't learn shit

[muted apex]

were u dev at all

[abstract wagon]

A little bit but it was more validation than developing

I'm hoping I can get Amazon for next summer

[muted apex]

man wants to go from 1 stressful environment to the next

loool

[abstract wagon]

I mean it'll help me get more clout

And I wanna learn alot

Anywhere I can learn a decent amount I'll be happy

[muted apex]

yes sir

[abstract wagon]

Honestly I'm not keeping my hopes up cause my luck sucks

[tacit marsh]

bro @abstract wagon u need to stop working 60-100 hours

[abstract wagon]

Tomorrow is my last day sir

[frosty ginkgo]

bro u said mon was ur last day then tuesday

[abstract wagon]

I mean I resigned Monday but I had like paperwork and stuff to do

[hexed wave]

Damn I just got assigned a project last week and I have to present next week

Then I’m done with my internship

[earnest kestrel]

@hexed wave you doing SWE bro?

[hexed wave]

Hell no

[coral geode]

i had 5 weeks to attempt a 10 week project and need to present next week

[lapis summit]

first day of internship tomorrow, who has advice for me

[rugged mango]

don't destroy prod db

[lapis summit]

o no i forgot about that

[charred roost]

Your first day should be pretty chill

Just have a good time and leave a good first impression on your team lol

[lunar dagger]

^^^

biggest tip: just don't stress out

[rugged mango]

make sure to stop working after hours

[lapis summit]

i get paid overtime tho hehe

[rugged mango]

gl with that 👋

[charred roost]

Overtime on day 1

[lapis summit]

50+ an hour so iss pretty valid

[charred roost]

👀

[rugged mango]

[meager warren]

bro my intership is ass

manager always busy

entire 10 week project is to backup and restore a sql database

wtf

[charred roost]

Damn

[rugged mango]

is this not doable in like < 3 days?

[meager warren]

more like minutes

[rugged mango]

[meager warren]

its such a drag

[rugged mango]

you're done right

what's next

[meager warren]

they broke it up into tasks

like first make the database diagram

took me a couple hours

but manager dragged it for like a week

then i implemented it

dragged that a week 2

most of my time is just waiting for my manager to tell me to go ahead

im realllyyyy gona push them next week

like give me more

[rugged mango]

paid LC time 😎

[meager warren]

honestly, thats why im back in cscareers dev

find lc resources and get back at it lol

[rugged mango]

this is the way

[frosty ginkgo]

bro theyre making me do shit in no code platforms now

and then in like 1-2 weeks if the founders have their shit together i can work on the new production app

[meager warren]

What in the world is no code platform

[frosty ginkgo]

its in the name lol

its essentially platforms where u drag and drop shit to create applicatiosn

and they want us to prototype the frontend with that instead of what we alr use(react)

[meager warren]

Oh like word press or sun

Sounds wack lol

[rugged mango]

oh my

[summer portal]

do you guys usually send a thank you email to your manager after your internship ends?

[lapis summit]

i would

[abstract wagon]

How many hours should I work for a summer internship?

They said they would like for me to work between 8-5 but would it be okay to say them for 8-4 instead?

[coral geode]

The people on this server will say morning meetings 8-9 leetcode 9-3 work 3-4

[abstract wagon]

??

They want me to work between 8-5 but is it possible to ask them to work between 8-4 instead

[coral geode]

Idk if I was you I’d ask to work 7-4 to fulfill their hour requirement or whatever

[hexed wave]

I’m working 8-5

You’ll live

[rugged mango]

mine is 8-5

unpaid lunch

9-5 was a lie

although

i pretty much start at 9 anywaysp

still in bed

[lapis summit]

tomorrow i have a software set up meeting during my scheduled lunch

[hexed wave]

Good you shouldn’t get paid to eat

[lapis summit]

if i create a blind account can my company see

[night surge]

Yeah

[coral geode]

they see that it got sent to your email but they cant confirm that it was you that requested blind to email you

[night surge]

It’s fine

Yeah only the confirmation step should be on your company computer

[rugged mango]

can you use school email

[coral geode]

to get full access to the app you have to sign up with a company email i believe

[lunar dagger]

Really depends on ur manager/team

Some managers might see you asking for that as a bad thing

In which case asking to do 7-4 would be the right move

Other managers won't care and understand that you're an intern

And are perfectly fine with you doing less time

[rugged mango]

Should I start leetcoding during work, cause I'm gonna be screwed soon if i don't step up my LC

August is very soon

[pliant hawk]

It’s tomorrow

[jolly mantle]

august is tomorrow? wtf

oh yeah it is

[abstract wagon]

atleast you don't work 9am-3am

[mighty path]

my recruiter didnt show up for the midpoint check in

[fluid kettle]

imagine having a midpoint check in

[charred roost]

Lol

[coral geode]

is that just an informal catchup about the internship or what

[charred roost]

Yeah

Usually just to see how you’re performing

[ember zenith]

@rugged mango What happens in august?

for winter internships?

[rugged mango]

next summer apps wave

i guess winter/spring at the same time tho

[somber saddle]

mine is 9-5 but I don't actually start working till like 11:30 tbh

[reef mulch]

Anyone got an adjustable desk? If yes, do you recommend the one you have?

I need ideas on the $321 I have left to spend from my WFH allowance. DM me your fav essentials.

[jolly mantle]

Got one from Costco

Brand is tresanti

It’s nice but a little small but it was like 400 CAD so pretty good deal

[lunar dagger]

^^^

costco has nice everything

[formal finch]

costco got one with wireless chargers that's under 250

[coral geode]

damn i wish i had a wfh allowance

[rugged mango]

what do i say during my 1on1s to my manager

i have no concerns

i just want to work

[coral geode]

establish accomplishable goals

ask for direct feedback on your performance so far

"am i on track for a return offer, if not how can i get back on track"

[pearl quartz]

is wealthsimple still hiring

[muted apex]

new profile pic jus dropped

[coral geode]

grats

[formal finch]

gimme me recommendations for chairs

[thorn leaf]

herman or bust

[formal finch]

I’m really considering buying this but the price is bit off 🥴

[rugged mango]

herman miller pretty good

insert gaming chair meme here

[left totem]

those are the 1k+ chairs that ppl on reddit go crazy for right

[rugged mango]

i think so

[formal finch]

umm I accidentally bought one

the seller actually took my best offer

[charred roost]

Damn

[formal finch]

rip I feel bad for buying it ngl

I bought a new iPad and monitor this month.

I haven’t put anything to savings and investments for the past two months

[charred roost]

But just imagine how comfortable you'll be

[lapis summit]

1k for a chair ?????

i don’t spend 1k in a year 🧎‍♂️

[stray spoke]

Yeah that's gonna be super worth

You will be using it a lot

[formal finch]

I have been working since august as full time intern

So, I can afford it but I just felt that I been spending a lot lol

[solemn frost]

does anyone have a chair recc thats not insane cost bc im ditching uni in a year

[stray spoke]

You can try getting second hand chairs that are good

[lime crypt]

enjoy it, you deserve it!!!

those chairs will save your health, think of it as an investment into your body / future health 🙂

[lapis summit]

^^^^

money is meant to be used to improve ur life

this chair seems dope as fuck

[coral geode]

chair for someone in our field is worth it

if i had a wfh allowance id put it towards that exact chair

[lapis summit]

i would say get one off amazon but we're currently boycotting them

[formal finch]

is 1K too much for a chair?

I felt that I get something solid for 500 and invest the other half

[lapis summit]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IIFW2L4?ascsubtag=[]st[p]cjdvpuccg008jney6tn2o7a5q[i]dtjm5b[u]1[t]w[r]google.com[d]D[z]m&tag=thestrategistsite-20

this is the one i bought

pretty easy to assemble

[lime crypt]

If you wanted to find something for 500, you could find a similar Herman Miller used on ebay / fb marketplace, if you dont mind used. I think a Herman Miller, new, for $1000 is appropriately priced cause cmon, its a Herman Miller lmao. Top of the line

[stray spoke]

I think it’s perfectly fine, a chair is the kinda thing to splurge on for a programmer

And it’s for your health and comfort, even if the marginal benefits are low, it’s worth it to me

[thorn leaf]

same, i have terrible posture and my back is pretty fucked up, im definitely copping a nice chair this fall as well

[stray spoke]

Chair is a programmer’s bed

[round sparrow]

If u call the authorized dealers it’s usually around 1000 for a normal embody

So u prob could’ve offered lower

[formal finch]

luckily I cancelled it

I found one for 800

[round sparrow]

Check w ur company for deals I got one new for like 850

[formal finch]

tesla don’t got anything

which sucks

I might wait until I know if I got an offer from apple and google

[round sparrow]

800 is good deal tho

The downside is I have to wait til aug to get it lol

[formal finch]

rip

[near roost]

used? Ive been looking for a embody logitech but dont wanna spend over 1k

[frail python]

Herman 100% worth it’s costly but ur back is priceless

[rugged mango]

o shoot my domains expire soon

[quick ore]

Anyone in New York?

[abstract wagon]

Herman Miller my friend

[jagged mason]

herman millers are greet

but dont buy one brand new. I recommend getting it off Fb market. A lot of companies who go vacant their offices often liquidate their chairs for very cheap

Also get a standup desk

[coral geode]

mine got auto renewed the other day. jokes on me i havent used it yet lmao

[low epoch]

Also recommending herman miller, craigslist had a used furniture warehouse selling it for $250. Seller was old white guy republican so i just talked to him and pretended to support Trump, got $50 discount 👍

[gloomy grove]

So Microsoft explore applications are out and I’m ready to apply. I know for the first round, they just look at your resume and if you’re good, you’ll go onto the next round. What exactly would they be looking for in a resume? I’ve never applied for a big internship so some tips could really help!

I have things but idk how big they are for something like Microsoft

[tidal kelp]

are you guys doing a lot during your internship or are you guys twiddling your thumbs

[still tree]

i mean I'm here so...

[rugged mango]

half and half, just leetcode inbetween and you're chilling

[still tree]

interview during lunch break

[tidal kelp]

What kind of tickets are you guys getting lmao

[still tree]

writing 😴 documentation 😴

[rugged mango]

more like interview after lunch break 😈

unless you aren't remote

[still tree]

lmaooooo interviewing in the office

nah im remote

and yes ive done that as well

[weak fjord]

冬季实习的渠道?

[pliant hawk]

struggling to go thru a 2 year old code base with 0 documentation

[jolly mantle]

bruh

[hexed wave]

I only do work 2 hours of the day

[weak fjord]

Winter internship channel when?

[jolly mantle]

i dont have the power to make such decisions

[weak fjord]

必须夺权

[jolly mantle]

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man

[weak fjord]

你父亲老了

我会踢你的屁股

[jolly mantle]

Whose mans is this

[weak fjord]

我不属于任何人

[jolly mantle]

Idk what’s happening rn but good luck to you

[weak fjord]

Winter channel I want

I apply winter internship

[weak fjord]

F u

[lime heron]

Lmfaooo

[weak fjord]

F u 2

[still tree]

日本語も分かりますか

[lime heron]

[weak fjord]

私はすべての言語を話すことができます

[weak fjord]

u sad me happy

[still tree]

それはうそだ

[weak fjord]

thanks much

[still tree]

たくさんの言語がありますよ

[weak fjord]

私は嘘をつかない

[still tree]

あ

はやい

私の日本語はあまりよくないで。。。

i used wa instead of ga

darn it

[weak fjord]

それは大丈夫です、私はあなたを理解することができます

[still tree]

じゃあ、どうしてたくさん言語が分かりますか

[weak fjord]

私は人をトローリングするのが好きです

[still tree]

グーグル翻訳をつかいますか

[weak fjord]

はい

グーグル翻訳は素晴らしいです

[still tree]

草草草草

じゃあ、日本人じゃないですか

[weak fjord]

私は日本人ではありません

私は英語で話すことができますが、退屈しています

[still tree]

しごとをしていませんか

[weak fjord]

いいえ、インターンシップを探しています

特に冬のインターンシップ

[still tree]

私もインターンシップを探していますが、夏のインターンシップです

どんあ会社を見ていますか

[weak fjord]

私はすべての会社に適用します

[still tree]

私は貧しいから、私も

ねえどこで日本語をべんきょうしましたか

[weak fjord]

グーグル翻訳

私はすべてを理解するためにそれを使用します

[dusk karma]

Am I being hacked rn

[still tree]

草草草草草

[still tree]

はい

[still tree]

私たちは悪い人だから