2021_summer

[pliant hawk]

Ayo WHAT

[charred roost]

It's like those Russian dolls that just keep getting smaller

Ths links between files are endless

[pliant hawk]

HAHAHAHA

[charred roost]

Kotlin 😍

[torn dagger]

I haven’t even used Java before

Just C#

[charred roost]

Kotlin is actually rather easy to learn

[torn dagger]

Yeah syntactically it doesn’t seem to bad

I just don’t know wat maven is lmao

[charred roost]

Oh me neither

I know Gradle and Maven are similar

But idek how Maven works

Speaking of coding

[torn dagger]

Pretty nervous but I feel confident that I can learn what I gotta learn

[charred roost]

To get a feel for the whole process from IDE to Prod, I had to make a pull request and run a build on Jenkins

Ive never had more adrenaline run through me holy

I was so worried about breaking something

Even though all my code did was print to console

[charred roost]

Yeah Kotlin is relatively easy to learn so you'll be fine

[pliant hawk]

I used vs code and my coach went wtf is this shit

[torn dagger]

Lol I gotta setup my dev env tomorrow

Shit looks rough

I feel like I’ll break something

[pulsar shadow]

It’s called vs code because it’s you versus your code

[charred roost]

I hope their documentation is up to date

If it is, it'll be simple

Mine referenced a bunch of scripts that were deleted years ago

And my manager didn't know that they were deleted lmao

So he was equally confused when I couldn't make it past a few steps

[sweet pollen]

I asked my mentor for feedback

I’m very nervous

[split fractal]

Java is too easy with IntelliJ

[sweet pollen]

Reply:

You are doing just fine, the pace of the project was good. Also we will have mid-internship checking sometime next week I have to schedule it, where we will discuss this in detail.
😔

“Just fine”?

That doesn’t sound good

[velvet badge]

Just fine sounds…..just fine

[split fractal]

Imma be real with you @sweet pollen

You are probably doing great with your project, but you shouldn't need validation from some random person online in discord in order to understand that. (I've seen you ask here multiple times about this with the same responses each time)

In the industry open direct feedback that's praising your work all the time is not common.

You have to learn when to gauge that you are meeting expectations by being very clear with your actual co-workers and managers on what the requirement is.

Don't read too into single words because no one spends that much time thinking about what they are saying. Can you imagine checking into every single word when you are speaking to someone else?

If there's an issue with your performance you will be told. Until then, keep learning, keep finding ways to create more impact/visibility, and you're golden.

[simple saffron]

some good advice

[abstract wagon]

Is it worth Relocating to Boston from Toronto for 5k a month no Relocation bonus or Housing ( Big company though , similar to IBM)

[sweet pollen]

What would you make in the alternate scenario?

[solemn frost]

i would've just for exp living in boston but then internship was full online

[abstract wagon]

they won't let me work from Toronto :/

[solemn frost]

well depends on what other offers there are too

if that's the only offer

then still sounds ok but idk col of boston

[stray spoke]

No more Deloitte

But yeah I would take it if it’s only offer

[abstract wagon]

the pay isn't enough for the COL

It's an expensive area :/

[stray spoke]

Unfortunately beggars can’t be choosers

[abstract wagon]

Hoping Five Rings comes in clutch

[stray spoke]

That will be truly a dream come true

[rugged mango]

5k a month not enough??

[abstract wagon]

doesn't seem to be apparently

[rugged mango]

is rent like ~2k per month for a studio there?

like the bay?

[charred roost]

yea studios can get insanely expensive

its why everyone has roommates lol

[lunar dagger]

2k/mo is like the cheapest studio you can find lmao

if you wanna be within an hour distance

[frail python]

It’s Boston not bay

Still expensive tho

[lapis summit]

^^, if you can get a room mate u can get a pretty decent gig for 1.5k in the heart of boston

fenway is where i want to live next area cuz its basically college central, borders Northeastern and BU

oh @abstract wagon look into living near allston

thats a pretty cheap area

[abstract wagon]

the place is close to seaport

[lunar dagger]

allston is kinda a far commute to seaport

you'd have to take a bus to central then redline to south station then walk to seaport

[charred roost]

oh

[lapis summit]

closer u get to sea port the closer u get to all the companies

fidelity's office is in seaport 😸

omg i wouldve loved working here

[lunar dagger]

seaports def my favorite place in boston

its so pretty

also there's always super nice cars parked there lmao

[south compass]

is it normal to get overwhelmed ?

the codebase is huge especially the startup of the app and it's my second day

[craggy shuttle]

uyeah

it takes upto 2-3 weeks to get upto speed

[coral geode]

yes

[lime heron]

I feel like I havent even done anything yet I havent even accessed the code yet

I also feel zero motivation but I think starting at 7 every morning is killing it :/

[lunar dagger]

@lime heron

When did u statrt

Start

I didn't code a single line for my first 2 weeks

I started doing small task my third week

And now I'm taking over some bigger projects

With oversight ofc

[lime heron]

I started june 7 so still in my second week, hoping I get more motivated once I'm actually coding. Setting everything up is kind of boring

[lunar dagger]

Yeah

Also if you feel like you don't have anything to do

Reach out to ur mentor

And let them know

99% of the time they don't realize

[lime heron]

Yeah you're right. I need to not feel so awkward and just reach out when I'm just sitting here

[sweet pollen]

Why do internships seemingly start like that for everyone? I merged my first change on the Thursday of my first week

[lunar dagger]

Might depend on the company, team, and your own level of comfort

I went into my internship with 0 background in the stuff in doing here lmao

So my start was really slow

[sweet pollen]

Same

[frail python]

how big is ur company

[lunar dagger]

Doesn't she work at Salesforce

So p big

[sweet pollen]

Yeah

[golden ginkgo]

my salesforce friends have all written > 250 lines of code thus far

so maybe it's company specific

[obtuse pivot]

fiedlity interns play ping pong

[frail python]

damn thats suprising cuz usually most place its like first week getting ur shit setup and second week reading the codebase and learning stuff

[obtuse pivot]

when it was in person

[frail python]

sf just build different

they just hire ppl built different

[lunar dagger]

^^^

[sweet pollen]

… I haven’t counted the number of lines I’ve written so far. Feeling nervous.

When was their start date?

[charred roost]

Don't worry about it lol, I don't really think it's an important metric

[lunar dagger]

Yeah just focus on working on your tasks, learning, and most importantly having fun

[charred roost]

Yeah

[ashen needle]

It’s a pretty garbage metric

If else statement better than ternary cuz 5 lines not 1

[lunar dagger]

^^^^

[lime heron]

Idk if it's due to everything being remote as well but I feel like I cant even keep my eyes open. I just got the code and I have a couple days before my story begins but holy shit I just want to sleep

[charred roost]

Lmfao yeah the normal 9-5 grind is super boring remote ngl

I’ve been drinking coffee recently just to keep me awake through the day since I’d normally crash around lunch time

[vague palm]

Holy fuck I haven't left the house in a week
G

[charred roost]

Same

[vague palm]

Getting serious cabin fever but walks don't do it anymore

[charred roost]

Though I have Friday off so I might try to get out

[vague palm]

Remote sucks

I wanna procrastinate or nap

Also doesn't help there's so much documentation to read

SOOO much

[charred roost]

Must be nice having documentation

I just have comments here and there that tell me just how much of the code base is just temporary hacks

[lime heron]

Reading documentation is so boring so I procrastinate and it feels like it takes forever especially when everything is outdated and doesnt work

I'm reclined all the way back on my couch atm trying to find the strength to look over this code

[charred roost]

Yeah I feel like I’m just wasting a bunch of time ngl

Though my manager thinks I’m working super fast and being super efficient

[vague palm]

There's something about the lack of physicality of the internship that just sucks

Remote is terrible for newbies imho

[charred roost]

The intern team has scheduled a bunch of mandatory events for us to make things a little more fun lol

But it’s all remote

Some of the events involve making food and stuff

And apparently theyre just gonna ship out the ingredients to everyone lol

[heady palm]

my first internship was summer 2020. I wish I know how it feels being in person

[pulsar ridge]

lmao i feel this

[vague palm]

How long do you guys take to do your tickets?

[lime heron]

Yeah same actually but I feel like I have been working 6 hour days if even that and yes feel like I'm wasting time

[vague palm]

9-5 just dumb lmao

[charred roost]

I’ll lyk when I finish a ticket

[charred roost]

Yea

[lime heron]

Yeah I havent started coding yet

[charred roost]

I didn’t even do any work yesterday

Even though I had a lot to do

Though I also had an intern event that lasted the entire afternoon

So I’ll just blame it on that

[heady palm]

just blame it on the hr events and you're good

lol

[vague palm]

Damn I can't imagine doing this for the rest of my life low-key

Oh and meetings

[charred roost]

Yeah I blamed it on Hr events in todays standup meeting lmao

[vague palm]

SOOO MANY FUCKING MEETINGS

[heady palm]

im currently in an hr event at this moment actually....

[lime heron]

Yeah the intern events take up a lot of time also. Tbh I feel like looking over the codebase doesnt help me that much as well. I dont ever understand the codebase until I actually start coding

[vague palm]

Really hard to get into the flow state

[charred roost]

All my team mates were like yeah I grinded through 6 tickets

And I’m like haha yeah I was also a productive team member

[charred roost]

Yeah it’s hard to get into a rhythm

[vague palm]

Can you all imagine doing this for the next 40 or so odd years

[lime heron]

Oh dude

😭

[vague palm]

Wy working heather?

[charred roost]

I feel like if I join a team with a product I actually wanna work on, I can maybe do this as a career lol

Ooh

[vague palm]

I'm hoping it's just due to the constraints of remote work

[lime heron]

Yeah same

[solemn frost]

is this your guys first internship too?

[vague palm]

I wish the other interns on my team were more social

[charred roost]

Yeah this is my first internship

[vague palm]

They're asocial af

Likewise

[solemn frost]

im the only intern on my team 😢

[charred roost]

Same

[vague palm]

Oh and also I don't really know the tech stack so I'm hoping it's that too

[charred roost]

I’d love to have other interns on my team to talk to and work with

[heady palm]

im on a team with 4 other interns and it's definitely more fun

[lime heron]

Same and yes first internship

[charred roost]

But being the only intern feels kinda lonely

[vague palm]

Wy working khan

[charred roost]

Plus my team is all senior and lead engineers

So I feel super out of place

[heady palm]

verizon

[solemn frost]

yeah

[vague palm]

Wbu elbows?

[solemn frost]

ibm

[charred roost]

Are you working at Illinois Research Park?

[solemn frost]

ive only had remote internships

[vague palm]

Armonk?

[heady palm]

nah, the dallas texas location @charred roost

[charred roost]

Ah ok

[heady palm]

only uiuc students can do that location right?

[vague palm]

Another thing I've realized

I really need to fucking exercise

[charred roost]

Not sure actually

[vague palm]

Move my ass

Stretch my body

[charred roost]

They never responded to my app lol

[heady palm]

i know Motorolla does that

[vague palm]

Esp during Quarantine

[heady palm]

or State Farm

[lime heron]

Yeah seriously I am so exhausted probably from not exercising

[charred roost]

Yeah I know a few companies only allow uiuc students there

Just wish they’d actually respond to all uiuc students lmao

[vague palm]

Toyota research institute?

That's UIUC exclusive rii

[charred roost]

I got ghosted by all companies I applied to at those research park

[heady palm]

lol im sure it's comp asf

[charred roost]

Is it?

Aren’t they located in SoCal lol

[vague palm]

Toyota research institute?

No it's a CS research thing

[charred roost]

Yeah it probably is given how many Op ppl are at this school

[vague palm]

Nothing to do with Toyota motor

[charred roost]

Yeah

[vague palm]

Toyota just sponsoring jt

[charred roost]

Oh wait I’m thinking of TRD

Yeah nvm then

[vague palm]

Low-key this pandemic made me understand why peeps have SOs/get married

[heady palm]

HR set up a meeting for health and wellness and we're making smoothies, kinda pog

[vague palm]

If anything they're just there so you don't feel like a louse astronaut in spaceship bedroom

[lime heron]

Lmfao so true

[charred roost]

Pog

We’ve got a boba tea making event coming up lol

Should be fun

[lime heron]

I dont speak to anyone except virtually ugh

[charred roost]

Same rip

[heady palm]

that's the reality these days

[vague palm]

As much as I hate to admit it

[charred roost]

I actually finally met up irl with some friends from high school last week

And it was so awkward lmao

[vague palm]

If I lived alone during Quarantine I would have not done so hot at all

[charred roost]

I’ve lost all social skills

[vague palm]

At the very least I'd prolly need roomies

[heady palm]

lmao has it been that bad @charred roost

[vague palm]

It's bad enough as it is living with the fam not interacting or seeing anyone of your age

[heady palm]

i haven't seen many of my friends from HS in a hot minute

[charred roost]

It was only a small group but our convo would die every few minutes lol

[vague palm]

At least the shit posts on this sever never end so the convos never stop

Das why I'm always here

[heady palm]

yeah i feel like everyone in my friend group caved in and started to do their own thing

our group chat has been dry lately

everybody on the grind now that we are rising seniors

[charred roost]

Yeah same our group chat now just has a random article being posted every now and then

And then a few of us talking about it

[obtuse pivot]

yall have gc’s?

[solemn frost]

this is one giant gc

[heady palm]

crazy to see how much this server grew

[vague palm]

Some of my more richer and more asocial friends legit gave us the middle finger

[heady palm]

i rarely talk in here now

[vague palm]

And got puppies

[golden ginkgo]

June

[vague palm]

@golden ginkgo ayy carlito you better win and do good during the triple headers

[charred roost]

Ferrari back to back pole giving me hope

@vague palm did you see that Ocon is staying with Alpine until 2024

[vague palm]

🇫🇷 vive la france

oh wait my bad wrong falg

🏳️

there we go

@versed gate i'm happy for him

he a nice dude

wish he and gasly got along tho

apparently they sorta had a falling out

[charred roost]

There we go

[charred roost]

Ye same

[charred roost]

Oh rip I thought they were friends

[vague palm]

they were before

[charred roost]

Love Gasly, he's such a nice dude

[vague palm]

sadger

i think it's cuz ocon's from working poor

gasly was relatively well off

that somehow caused a rift

but imagine a french homme + french homme team

[charred roost]

Ah

[charred roost]

Yeah I think that's Alpines goal ngl

They might try sniping Gasly from RB/AT

[vague palm]

driving a french voiture

who knows

rb seat is dead

no fucking way rb giving it him

and tbh i don't think gasly would take it

at looks good but it's not a forever team yk?

[charred roost]

Yea

[charred roost]

Yeah I think Perez will stay with rb

[vague palm]

highkey starting to hate yuki

man needs to come down several notches

rude af

really wish kyvat was back tho

gentleman russian

[charred roost]

Oh on the radio?

I like yuki on the radio lmao

Dude becomes unleashed

But he's chill outside the car

[charred roost]

Yeah Kvyat is the superior Russian F1 driver

[vague palm]

he hasn't lived there since 7 years old apparently

his fam and putin don't get along

he's lived in italy ever since

[charred roost]

Not surprised

[vague palm]

dude i feel so fucking bad for him

family life was tough

but he makes it to f1

gets rbr drive

outperformes riccy mostly

makes one mistake crashing into seb

seb calls him torpedo

[charred roost]

He came to F1 just as Verstappen arrived which really fucked his career unfortunately

[vague palm]

FUCKING MARKO YANKS HIM AND PUTS THIS DUTCH KID WITH ANGER MANAGEMENT ISSUES

DUTCH KID WINS

HAS A BIG FUCKING TOLL ON UR SELF ESTEEM

AFFECTS YOUR TORRO ROSSO DRIVE THAT YOU GET DEMOTED

[charred roost]

Tbf that Dutch kid would go on to carry the entire team for 5 years lmao

[vague palm]

is you still have a lovely relationship with nelson piquet's daugther

hot

couger

[charred roost]

But yeah Marko really fucked a lot of drivers up with random seat changes and just over the top pressure

[vague palm]

she becomes preggo with ur kid

then torro rosso drops you

she breaks up with you

cant get any worse right?

SHE STARTS DATING THAT ANGRY DUTCH KID WHO TOOK EVERYHTING FROM YOU

YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE YOUR KID NO MORE

UR KIDS STARTS TO CALL THAT DUTCH KID DAD

the pain man

[charred roost]

Big sadge

[vague palm]

i couldn't

honestly

dude comes along steals ur drive ur thunder ur girl ur kid

but big ups to him he tho idk how he remains so cheerful still

i'd prolly not do so hot

[charred roost]

Yeah that level of pressure and just bad luck in life would be too much for me

[lime heron]

F1?

[charred roost]

Yeah

[lime heron]

Formula 1?

[charred roost]

Yes

Cars going vroom in circles

very fast

good fun to watch

[lime heron]

Are you guys in the US? Never heard of anyone knowing f1 in the US but maybe I just havent met anyone lol

[charred roost]

Yeah I'm on the west coast lol

I think @vague palm is in Canada but same continent lol

I think the US F1 fan base is slowly growing

I only got into around last year because of Netflix's Drive to Survive lol

[lime heron]

Huh maybe so. I thought it was just a British thing

Ah I see

[charred roost]

Yeah its more of a European thing

Since pretty much all the teams and drivers are from countries within Europe and Asia and Australia

But Netflix's show Drive to Survive has led to the popularity increasing here

and I think ESPN now has the rights to show races live here in the US

and they've been seeing increased viewer numbers

[lime heron]

Gotcha makes sense. Never watched it myself but heard about it while in UK

[charred roost]

Ah ok

[flat eagle]

is it normal to not code much at ur first internship

i feel like i should be coding more...

[charred roost]

how far are you into your internship?

[flat eagle]

two days... lol

[charred roost]

oh ok that's why lol

[flat eagle]

but the work theyre describing also just sounds like it wont be that much

[charred roost]

you'll probably coding towards the end of the week or sometime next week

i didn't code until the end of my first week

but it also just depends on how much setup you need to do

[flat eagle]

they said will be a month before i do anything “real”

[charred roost]

you're going to be at the company for a few months so your first two weeks or so will be slow

[charred roost]

yeah onboarding is a slow process

[flat eagle]

im just making a database basically

[charred roost]

new grad employees take upto 90 days to fully settle in

[flat eagle]

does not seem too hard

hmmm true

[charred roost]

so interns take a few weeks

[flat eagle]

hopefully can make it sound more code heavy on resume LOL

[charred roost]

lmfao

just say you were responsible for setting up a whole new production database to help the company expand into new markets or something

[flat eagle]

thats genius

impact😈

[charred roost]

yee

[flat eagle]

u on ur second internship?

third?

[charred roost]

"Created database to serve over 1000 customers of company X worldwide"

[charred roost]

I'm on my first one lol

[flat eagle]

wait omg my manager actually did say it would serve thousands of employees

[charred roost]

sounds like you'll actually have an impact on the company

[flat eagle]

it still sounds simple though

[charred roost]

which is dope

[flat eagle]

the coding part itself

Hows glassdoor?

[charred roost]

just pop into #resume and they'll help you make it sound more exciting lol

[flat eagle]

i see u post abt it sometimes

so true

[charred roost]

Glassdoor's pretty nice

My team is rather chill and I've already been assigned some tasks

[flat eagle]

i spent hours on there when i was applying to stuff

[charred roost]

So I've been slowly going through them

[charred roost]

Yeah it's a really useful website

I'd go on it to see what people would say about the interview process lol

[flat eagle]

thats nice i like a culture that isnt too strict and pressuring

[charred roost]

Basically used it for the same reason I joined this server

[charred roost]

Yeah they're really serious about avoiding burnout and mental health

[flat eagle]

this server made me realize how behind i am lowkey

[charred roost]

I think we get a few 3-day weekends over the course of the internship

in the name of mental health

[flat eagle]

i never even touched leetcode til here

[charred roost]

and avoiding burnout

[flat eagle]

thats rly nice

[charred roost]

well all that matters now is that you're here

you'll be at a big company making big money in no time

[flat eagle]

imagine all the ppl who joined hella early

must be ballin

[charred roost]

just check out #new_grad_salary_sharing lol

Majority of people get 6 figure new grad offers

its insane

[flat eagle]

theyre crazy

[charred roost]

same here btw lol

I'd heard about it but never actually touched it until I joined this server

[flat eagle]

same didnt know companies actually used those questions

my dads a senior level engineer and even hes never used it

[charred roost]

Same lmfao

I think @frosty ginkgo was saying earlier how his mom can't even do an LC easy even though she makes a lot of money

[flat eagle]

LOL same w my dad

[golden ginkgo]

i will transition to quant if ferrari don't improve their car

grazie regazzi

[round osprey]

I just witnessed a major break in prod (site is down) and im in a call with like 30 engineers, the CTO, all the VP of engineering etc

[carmine moss]

oof

[coral geode]

amazing

[round osprey]

No i was not the cause of it

[sweet pollen]

I like it that Salesforce gave us interns a jump rope, because rope jumping is one of the most efficient types of exercise out there (in terms of health benefit per unit time)

I can’t use it for more than 20 seconds without collapsing on the floor, though

[abstract wagon]

practice makes perfect

[west goblet]

who here is just finishing up the first week of their hbo max internship and ran an integration test with the prod users db?

[obtuse pivot]

LOL

[charred roost]

Lmfaoo

[velvet badge]

Oh my ducking god

Intern is having a BAD day rn

[charred roost]

This heatwave making people go crazy

[harsh lichen]

LOL I GOT THIS TOO WAS JUST ABOUT TO POST IT

[abstract wagon]

lmfao same

well wasn't abt to post it but

[low epoch]

Funniest shit i seen in a long time

[umbral heart]

Wait, interns can push to prod?

[charred roost]

Yea some companies dont really have barriers to prod

[umbral heart]

Gotta go through prs and merge approval at my internship

[charred roost]

Same

[surreal basin]

It's trending on twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q="Integration Test Email"&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

"Integration Test Email" - Twitter Search

1h ago @RachelTobac tweeted: "Lol if it turns out the HBO Max email go.." - read what others are saying and join the conversation.

Twitter

[lethal ore]

Lol who is interning at HBO max?

[sweet pollen]

I think it was probably not an intern? Barriers to just pushing to production are probably way more common than their absence

[loud raft]

I was forced to push to production my first week at tesla it was stressful

[formal finch]

that’s our team 😄

[shrewd karma]

i hope there's a CI/CD pipeline yall are using before your changes are automatically pushed to prod

[charred roost]

yeah we've got a ci/cd pipeline

commits must successfully build before a PR can be reviewed

[charred roost]

Damn it really was an intern lol

[rugged mango]

LMAO

❤️‍🔥

[formal finch]

umm this could’ve been me

I literally got an offer from that CI team lol

[charred roost]

lmfao

[hollow iron]

“a portion”

[charred roost]

the replies to the tweet are pretty wholesome

pretty much everyone's talking about how they've done even worse things as senior and lead devs

[stray spoke]

It’s honestly good press lol

[charred roost]

Yeah it is lol

Plus the intern can actually quantify the results of their actions and put it on their resume lol

[stray spoke]

“Increased company visibility by 1000%”

Also “I’m that HBO intern”

Perfect BQ story

[charred roost]

Yep lmfao

[rugged mango]

Tell me about a time you made a mistake.

Well...

[charred roost]

perfect

[thick shore]

dam that intern is gonna get a return offer for sure now

huge impact 💯

[low epoch]

That is actually 100% a story to tell in interviews

Guaranteed get a laugh

Getting a laugh is #1 soft skill after being handsome

[jolly mantle]

😂😂 successfully sent email to 1M+ users

[soft hound]

bro im not sure if u should be talking about that in an interview LOL

[sweet pollen]

If I were that intern I’d have posted on r/cscareerquestions already

[lunar dagger]

It let's the recruiter know that you will in fact NOT do that again

[soft hound]

i think that is expected

[sweet pollen]

I feel like this is 98% HBO’s fault

If all companies let people just randomly push stuff to production this would happen a lot more often

[charred roost]

Yeah it is, they didn't have the necessary protocols to stop this from happening

[ashen needle]

its 0% that intern's fault

there should be absolutely no possible way for that to happen

[sweet pollen]

Hence not a bad thing to say in interviews

DAE feel like it’s eerie and odd that some companies are unironically having in-person internships this summer?

[charred roost]

I feel kinda jealous of people that have in person internships lol

But it definitely feels weird since not everyone is vaccinated yet

[dark junco]

Idk my company has the option for full time employees to be in office, not interns

[charred roost]

Oh my company is still fully remote rip

[simple saffron]

the tweet kinda makes me mad ngl

[charred roost]

Though they're opening up in September

[simple saffron]

same^

[torn dagger]

How’s the internship going

[simple saffron]

it’s aight. really tough

hbu

[torn dagger]

Same here man pretty overwhelmed just finished first week lol

[floral birch]

mines hella slow

still onboarding

[frail python]

Cuz zucc is zuccccing us

[craggy shuttle]

Because Salesforce is dope 😛

[loud raft]

Salesforce invests a lot in their interns and new grads

New grad comp is comparable too, based on loc

[simple saffron]

@torn dagger what have u been working on

[torn dagger]

just been reading a shit ton of docs for my project

[simple saffron]

fair same

[torn dagger]

u write any code yet

[simple saffron]

yea but not substantial

just starter code for my project

[ashen needle]

Anyone else writing Java for their internship

I was so rusty at the start cuz I haven’t written Java in over a year

[frail birch]

python > java

1v1 me IRL

[charred roost]

Yeah I am

[charred roost]

Imagine messing up an entire program just bc you forgot to tab one line

[torn dagger]

im writing Kotlin and ive never used any JVM in my life lol

[charred roost]

Kotlin is great

[torn dagger]

yeah its not too hard to understand

its the frameworks that are weird

Springboot

[charred roost]

Yeah I'm doing spring boot too but in java

[torn dagger]

like wtf is a bean

[charred roost]

And I'm lost lol

[charred roost]

No clue lmao

[torn dagger]

yeah they just threw me the code base and told me to use the debugger to understand all the logic

[charred roost]

Same

[torn dagger]

theyre basically treating me as a part of the team

which is pretty cool

[charred roost]

Oh that's dope

I wonder if that makes getting a return offer easier lol

[torn dagger]

ive heard expedia converts 80-90%

[ashen needle]

fuck java fr

[charred roost]

Damn nice

[charred roost]

I like it lol

[torn dagger]

i think its nice since ive never used java before so i get to learn it

extremely similar to C# except the gradle/maven part idek what those things do

oh nvm its a dependency manager

[charred roost]

Oh they're useful for integrating libraries and dependencies

Yeah

You just say "hey include this library" and then once you sync it, you can use it

[torn dagger]

yeah im used to c++/python #include or import lol

[charred roost]

Lol

[ashen needle]

Maven is really nice actually

[jolly mantle]

It’s crazy how spring is used like everywhere

[torn dagger]

yeah fr i agree its like the industry standard

[abstract wagon]

Damn I have to use scala

Shits dog

[ashen needle]

Scala devs make $$$ tho

[abstract wagon]

Wait how

[torn dagger]

Scalas functional right

wats scala good for

[ashen needle]

I’m p sure scala devs make a lot of $ but I might be wrong

[turbid river]

Scala is used a ton for data engineering

[velvet badge]

Have to learn scala too

[dapper shard]

Honesty even tho I’m not the biggest fan of Java, when people ask me what language they should learn I always recommend Java. It’s used everywhere.

[rugged mango]

i started learning with java, but now primarly use c++/python

i just like the careers that use c++/python better

[velvet badge]

Java isn’t a bad language to learn first

I usually don’t tell people to learn Python first, the hill you gotta climb to learn Java/C++ can put a lot of people off

But going from Java to C++ isn’t too bad and obv going from Java to Python is heaven

[rugged mango]

yeah learning java made learning c++/python way easier

[dapper shard]

I don’t blame you. I love full stack but I don’t think I’ll ever truly fall in love with Java.

[velvet badge]

Ngl Scala is kicking my ass in some regards

[dapper shard]

I started with C++ then Java then Python

[velvet badge]

Haven’t worked with functional languages yet so getting used to syntax/concept is hell lmao

[dapper shard]

Lisp probably the worst language I’ve ever used

[rugged mango]

i gave up on javascript

not hard but

[dapper shard]

Just learn typescript

[rugged mango]

like i don't want to do that

[velvet badge]

agreed, typescript is so much better

[rugged mango]

i don't want to go into backend anyways, i want to go into infra/data eng/sre/devops/mlops

[vague palm]

You forgot to add the script after java

[dapper shard]

also true

[dapper shard]

ngl i don't think ive heard anyone say this before

[solemn frost]

what is mlops ive never heard of this

[rugged mango]

welp now you have

but it's more i want to avoid javascript like the plague

my current internship is in golang

[lapis summit]

i on the other hand only want jobs with javascript

[ashen needle]

do you guys include your intro programming course on your resume?

[solemn frost]

i feel like its implied that you know how to program already so thats redundant

[round sparrow]

Golang goated

[frosty ginkgo]

Same lol

My internship is all full stack JS thank god

[lapis summit]

thats literally my dream

fullstack js is all i could hope for

[ashen needle]

backend js is kinda eh

full stack with like python backend would be a dream

[willow orchid]

so does anyone have reimbursement options for their internships(for wfh equipment)

[left totem]

django and react 😩

[ashen needle]

Django is kinda meh

Not bad but I don’t love it

[left totem]

i dont like how django handles forms

[frosty ginkgo]

Flask seems nice

Looks like nodejs but in python

[charred roost]

I don't but I can ask for monitors, peripherals and adapters

[ashen needle]

do you mean express

[dark junco]

True node isn't a framework

[frosty ginkgo]

Yea it is I'm high rn

Or for the par couple of hrs lol

[ashen needle]

lmao

[charred roost]

lmao

[lapis summit]

lmao

[vague palm]

jrakos

what motivates you?

what's ur end goal?

never knew someone to be so goat'd to grind after heart surgery

gimme ur chadness

[lunar dagger]

wait u just got heart surgery

have a quick recovery dude

@frosty ginkgo

or dudet

dude (neutral)

[frosty ginkgo]

Yea I did lol

I'm doing good now

Can stand up and walk but slowly

[lunar dagger]

That's good to hear

Make sure to get lots of rest man

[frosty ginkgo]

Fs

[ashen needle]

wait r u high on like medical shit

i thought u meant u had just smoked lol

[lunar dagger]

he got that good good

[frosty ginkgo]

Yea lol

[sweet pollen]

😮 What kind of heart surgery?

[loud raft]

my roommate just had surgery and he tried to rush his recovery and has to recover even longer now

take it easy while you can - best of luck!!

[umbral heart]

hi datadoge, thank u for wise wisdom

[dapper shard]

well guess it is about time to say good bye to this chat

[night surge]

One last prayer

[lunar dagger]

[rugged mango]

[lunar dagger]

goodbye guys, see you in summer 2022 post snap

[lapis summit]

[coral geode]

This channel should stay to discuss our summer 2021 internships

[split fractal]

everyone just does that in #general

[pliant hawk]

[cobalt sphinx]

[abstract wagon]

[obtuse spruce]

its been a wild ride

[muted apex]

This was truly a blessed summer 2021 recruitment season

All thanks to this server

Until next year lads

[gaunt mirage]

All the best

[amber lark]

its been real, this discord helped me get employed

[night surge]

[tribal bronze]

[lethal ore]

[formal finch]

THANK YOU EVERYONE

i wouldn't be able to get anything without the server!

[charred roost]

This discord was definitely the only reason why I got my internship lol, thanks for everything!

[stray spoke]

Yeah this server has so many helpful resources and people

[rugged mango]

yall

i start my internship and summer classes tmrw

• leetcode + cooking + driving practice + 1 side project + working out

[stray spoke]

Time management 100

[lapis summit]

imagine not having adhd :(

i do one leetcode problem, take a break, and then 2 hours have passed by somehow

[rugged mango]

time management 100 only happens to me once stress 100 is acheived

i'll have time for everything + some fun

gonna be a loooong summer

[stray spoke]

Word

[split fractal]

everyone is cute

yummy

[somber saddle]

cute

[split fractal]

send doggohehe emoji

[somber saddle]

:doggohehe

[split fractal]

u failed

[somber saddle]

wat ta fak

[split fractal]

indeed

:doggohehe: - is the code

[somber saddle]

:doggohehe:

:gasp

[split fractal]

wow

[somber saddle]

D:

D COLON

[split fractal]

poor man's nitro, here we go

[somber saddle]

:SADEG

[split fractal]

very cute

[charred roost]

sadeg

[somber saddle]

sadeg

[charred roost]

more like sad egg

[somber saddle]

you grinding leetcode for googs or just focus nettyflix

[split fractal]

just focus netty

i think i can get return

doing well

[charred roost]

boutta become their first new grad hire

goated

[split fractal]

there's already one

[charred roost]

oh

[split fractal]

honestly tho im just lazy to do LC

wasting my time playing valorant in free time

probs will start soon

[charred roost]

same

though i've been playing csgo instead of valorant lol

[formal finch]

Is that the Yale grad?

[frosty ginkgo]

No it's @split fractal

[polar valley]

Guys If I postponed the starting date of internship for 1 month and the manager agreed and said that they are waiting for me.

Is there something to worry about? Reddit got me a bit paranoid regarding this because of stories that they got internships canceled

[split fractal]

yea

[rugged mango]

first hour of work is a flop have to call IT now to get my email lmao 😔

guess i'll leetcode in the meantime

[lime heron]

i would use that hour to sleep but that's because im lazy

[split fractal]

i cannot actually sleep during the day

[lime heron]

Actually good point - I just lie there comatose but I'm not actually asleep

[split fractal]

comatose? more like sit up against the head rest browsing tiktok

[lime heron]

sometimes i just stare at the ceiling

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-gif-5455397

i feel like that's me lmao

[rugged mango]

lmao

i just found out i'm on the data science and engineering team instead of infra

😜

gotta update my resumes now bruh

actually low key wanted infra even tho im a ds major lmao

[simple hedge]

anyone else on their 3rd week as a swe intern and have not done a single thing because of lack of permissions or is it just me

[sweet pollen]

I’m doing so poorly at my internship 😔

[simple hedge]

RIP same, i haven't done a single thing feeling useless

[tacit marsh]

facts i feel like i’m not getting shit done i have like experimental project which are shadow tested in production and they just all have failed and done horribly

[simple hedge]

how many weeks are u into ur internship?

[tacit marsh]

on my 5th week

[tacit marsh]

wait 6th

[simple hedge]

dang are u grad next yr too?

[tacit marsh]

nope so i guess not a big deal

[lime heron]

I havent done anything yet it's my 3rd week

[simple hedge]

guess we aint alone

[lime heron]

I am just finding the meetings difficult to keep up with since I've never worked in an agile scrum type of environment. I only am really starting to understand project today but it seems like I wont even be coding til next week :/

Just feels like things are moving slowly but maybe that's cause its remote? Not sure

[silk ridge]

I mean as long as ur learning the technologies/languages/what your team does/what your project is and not literally just waiting then I think it's fine

[night surge]

Remote is a big part there

Saw some message about permissions

That’s a big one

[lime heron]

Yeah that's basically what's happening at the moment. Watching spring boot tutorial but yeah, just also kind of feel useless atm since I'm not coding

[silk ridge]

Yeah I'm doing the same, 4th week and designing project have written 0 code. I think you just gotta realize that all teams are different, some need lots of onboarding and are very technical. My last internship at similar tier company I coded on my first week lol

Hard not to compare ofc but if your team is fine with what ur doing I wouldn't worry

[lime heron]

Okay yes that's exactly what my week is going to look like - designing and architecture I think? This is my first internship so I was kind of surprised that manager was saying I'd be coding next week but it's a relief to hear that each internship is different

[hexed wave]

When all my work this summer is in excel 😞

[simple hedge]

dang they got u writing VBA scripts or whatever?

[low epoch]

mine literally told me today "yeah we move slow, expect this to take a while"

[rugged mango]

[low epoch]

start of 3rd week today, no code pushed yet

[rugged mango]

i'm working under a data engineer so i'm expecting a good amount of work

[charred roost]

i've been moving super quick in my internship

pushed some code last week and have to push some more over the next two weeks to finish up a few tickets

[torn dagger]

Literally, I can’t do anything because lack of perms and it’s taking forever to get approved

[floral birch]

what do you guys talk about in manager 1 on 1s

this weeks just been onboarding so i didnt really have much to say

it was kinda awkward and we ended in like 10 min lmao

[rugged mango]

what are we supposed to talk about in 1on1s

goals?

[floral birch]

i already got my projects

talked about goals last time

[charred roost]

Yeah I've had a few short 1 on 1s where I just talked about the goals I have and my progress on them

I've got my first real check in tomorrow though

[floral birch]

so its cool if its short right?

[simple hedge]

relatable

[floral birch]

or should i try to take the whole time

[charred roost]

My manager gave me a 10-30-45 day plan and the 10 day checkpoint is tomorrow

[charred roost]

yeah it should be fine

[rugged mango]

waiting simulator

[charred roost]

you could also ask them how you're doing if you want

and ask if there's anything you could be doing to be a better team member and whatnot

[rugged mango]

^ imma do this,

[charred roost]

and just ask for feedback in general

[simple hedge]

anyone in an internship rn and they dont know if they even give return offers or just me 💀

[floral birch]

yeah thats a good idea thanks

shoulda asked how i was doing lmao

[charred roost]

yeah np

[charred roost]

yee

idt my company even hires new grads bro

[simple hedge]

damn

are u gonna ask

[charred roost]

every single software engineer i've seen is a senior engineer

[floral birch]

ye same with my friends company

[charred roost]

with like 5 years of experience at least

[charred roost]

yeah I probably am

[rugged mango]

i want a return offer from my company but idk if they'll pay well (don't get paid well as a tech intern, but great named company)

[charred roost]

i like the company and my team is pretty chill lol

[charred roost]

yeah idk how much a new swe would get paid at my company

[simple hedge]

@charred roost are you at a tech company?

[charred roost]

the senior engineers get decent pay

[simple hedge]

im at a hedge fund as a swe so its kind of not as streamlined lol

[charred roost]

nah, but it is a decently well known company

i'm at glassdoor rn

[rugged mango]

i just took the lowest of the distribution on glassdoor, ~100k for me

[simple hedge]

thats dope

[charred roost]

100k sounds pretty decent

hows the COL in that area?

[charred roost]

tyty

[charred roost]

ah

[rugged mango]

la county

[charred roost]

oh hmm

[simple hedge]

100k would prob still go long in la county

[rugged mango]

LA county is less than the bay right?

[charred roost]

Yeah I think LA is cheaper than the bay by a bit

COL in SF is insane lol

Iirc a salary of 117k/yr is the poverty line

[simple hedge]

no wayyy

[charred roost]

which is crazy

[rugged mango]

for fam of 4

[charred roost]

ah

[simple hedge]

i dont get the hype around SF

maybe cause I like NY too much

[simple saffron]

bruh i’m blocked and nobody on my team is answering my messages

[rugged mango]

south bay is better than SF

[charred roost]

its a nice area

[simple saffron]

what do i do..

[charred roost]

the surrounding parts of the bay are better than SF in general imo

[charred roost]

bruh

on slack?

[simple saffron]

yea

[charred roost]

maybe email them?

also just message/email IT

they could help you out

oh wait

[simple saffron]

true

[simple hedge]

I visited once and Mission area was.. hella sketch

[charred roost]

do you mean blocked as in like stuck?

or blocked as in blocked and can't reach them lol

[simple saffron]

like stuck lol

[charred roost]

ah

[simple saffron]

on my project

[charred roost]

yeah there do be sketch areas

[charred roost]

ah

yeah probably just email your team members

[rugged mango]

93k is iffy, i want to aim for at least 110k for my first ft

not that 93k is bad

def a great new grad salary

[charred roost]

definitely a reachable salary

[rugged mango]

[simple hedge]

[rugged mango]

questions i'm afraid to ask: intern events/company events count as work hours right

[charred roost]

I think so yeah

[formal finch]

do i need to tell my team that im going to them first

[charred roost]

I think you should

Just in case they try to get a hold of you during an event

you might miss their slack messages and they'll think you're ignoring them otherwise lol

[formal finch]

gotcha i should be compensated for that right?

[simple saffron]

yes

[charred roost]

Yeah you should

[simple saffron]

but also aren’t events virtual anyways

[charred roost]

yea

[simple saffron]

i don’t think there’s a huge need to post that you’re afk/going unless your team is hella micromanaging you

[charred roost]

some events are interactive though

[simple saffron]

true

[charred roost]

like last week i had a 4 hour long welcome event

and we were required to have video on lol

[simple saffron]

bruh

that’s OD

[charred roost]

so I couldn't just join and be afk

[charred roost]

yeah I was ready to pass out at the end lol

felt bad about not getting any work done

[simple saffron]

zoom fatigue is so real

[charred roost]

but it was cool making money doing nothing

[simple saffron]

idk why but turning the camera on is 10x more tiring than doing things irl

[charred roost]

it really is lol

[rugged mango]

me

🤩

[low epoch]

because it's just our ugly selves staring back at us

[simple saffron]

unironically this

bean why do you have to drop truth bombs like this

[terse torrent]

Have u guys ever had a recruiter mald at u for not taking a job

[restive falcon]

no

theres like 10000000 cs students

they have no reason to care

[terse torrent]

Yes

I am so puzzled at this conversation

Nop

[abstract wagon]

Damn you got Morgan?

[terse torrent]

Nop

[abstract wagon]

I wish I could get Morgan

[rugged mango]

i guess they didn't want to do more work 🙂 😦

[terse torrent]

Bro I'm like malding rn

Idk why he's so pissed

I kinda know

But i also kinda don't

[abstract wagon]

What did he say

[terse torrent]

Like it's normal for someone not to take an offer

He was just like

Ok

Ok

Bye

[restive falcon]

lmao u didnt even renege

[abstract wagon]

LMAO

[rugged mango]

[terse torrent]

Didn't even want to stay in touch for summer

[rugged mango]

BYE!

[stray spoke]

He’s based lol

[terse torrent]

Ducc and I both do not like this company

That's the hint

Nop

[restive falcon]

google.

[terse torrent]

Bruh i simp for google yo

[rugged mango]

hmm

Linkedin!?

thought i heard good things about them

guess their recruiter wasn't the greatest either

[lunar dagger]

what's malding

[abstract wagon]

Yo fuck that company

They can burn in hell

I'll put the gasoline

[abstract wagon]

Being so mad you're losing hair

[lunar dagger]

oh lmao

[rugged mango]

mad + balding

[soft hound]

bruh i didnt know thats where malding came from LMAO

today i learned

[split fractal]

FOOKIN MALDIN EHH??!?!!

[rugged mango]

what should i set my goals to when i talk to my manager and mentor

[coral geode]

Hows everyone’s imposter syndrome

[ashen needle]

These apps opening is getting to my imposter syndrome way more than my internship is 😢

[charred roost]

Impostor syndrome hitting hard bro

Still feeling super out of place lmao

But I just had a 1:1 with my manager to talk about my progress and whatnot

And he said he was happy with what I was doing which was nice to hear

[lime heron]

my imposter syndrome is happy and healthy 😦

[rugged mango]

no impostor syndrome here

i'm not sus

anyways

my company/team is preaching WLB

guess whos happy

<-----

[charred roost]

😍

[abstract wagon]

I could only imagine

[tacit marsh]

bruh i haven’t coded anything for my internship in a week they got me writing design docs and doing analysis

also i was pairing with my mentor and his roommate came in and said sarcastically is that the shitty intern you’ve been talking about?? i think it was a joke

[rugged mango]

LMAO

[tacit marsh]

not good for my imposter syndrome

[lime heron]

What did your mentor say after his roommate said thay

[tacit marsh]

he was j like get out of here while laughing and said i live w a bunch of clowns

[lime heron]

Well that's kind of shitty, I wouldn't take it personally though I know it's easier said than done

[coral geode]

If that happened to me I’d be rolling

😂

[obtuse spruce]

lOOL

[lunar dagger]

He's definitely joking lmao

If he meant it he wouldn't say it while you're on the call

[rugged mango]

he's not the one who said it

[lunar dagger]

Oh

I never learned how to read

[round osprey]

I havent written code since my 2nd week

Which was may 9-14

[charred roost]

Damn

[muted apex]

Amazon?

[rugged mango]

are yall on bigger teams?

i'm on a smaller team which is broken into like 2 different projects

so just me and my mentor (15yoe dev) really, but it's like 2 different teams on one big team

[terse torrent]

I am on a team of 10 fte one other intern

[charred roost]

I'm on a team of about 8 people and I'm the only intern

[tacit marsh]

no

[lunar dagger]

I'm on a team of 5ft

[low epoch]

4 on my team + 15 on adjacent team i work closely with (includes devs/tech lead/analysts/etc)
am only intern

[gaunt mirage]

I am the team 😔

[gaunt mirage]

They are having me make an internal tool by myself

[pliant hawk]

now thats something u cannot google

or is it? idk

[rugged mango]

bruhh i'm doing internal tooling but am led by the senior eng

[dapper shard]

same, my team tells me not to work after 5pm AT ALL

[dapper shard]

team of like 9 i think including me and another intern

[gaunt mirage]

The only info about similar projects I can find is 2 papers that came out last year.

[pliant hawk]

This gonna be a huge point of your resume doe

[round osprey]

devops :3

i hate it

[lethal ore]

Anyone got the Target Diversity Leadership Symposium phone screen?

[low epoch]

Same

[round osprey]

no id rather murder who ever make kafka and docker

[rugged mango]

what would you rather do

i'd rather do infra/devvops/dataeng than backend (mainly because i want to avoid JS), but i'm fine with other backend langs

[rugged mango]

any JIRA haters

[lone orbit]

Uhhh backend and JS? What backend are you doing bro

[raven creek]

I assume Node?

[lone orbit]

Backend is pretty big domain tho, cannot sleep on backend, it’s more than writing Apis in Node

[rugged mango]

its fine

i don't hate on backend

just JS

will not code JS in my project time anymore

never again

[lone orbit]

I hate JS too, but mostly been doing backend in C++/Rust/Java

Its fun

[rugged mango]

yeah i'm probably gonna pick up go