#2021_summer

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woven wren
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Has anyone interviewed or interned at quantcast

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How wassssiit

lime heron
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I feel less depressed than yesterday so progress I guess. Had my 1:1 today and my manager just gave me an overview of how the meetings will work and a high level of the tech stack but it wasn't anything crazy though I did feel awkward

How's yours going

muted apex
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Very overwhelmed lol

charred roost
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Going good

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Finally met the rest of my team today in a standup meeting

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And actually got some work done

bronze echo
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hi folks. looking for a crazy summer internship for a reason to live in a far away city for a month

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or two

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what are my@iptions

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will try as hard as possible to get it done

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v motivated

little fiber
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for this summer or next summer

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if it's for this one you're probably out of luck

bronze echo
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this summer but like i said willing to go to great depths

restive falcon
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gonna be a little hard to find stuff this summer

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i would recommend hitting up startups

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email like crazy

bronze echo
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startups are unlikely to provide housing reimbursement, correct?

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i’ve tried all the startup sites already but i was pretty selective

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how do I stand out when I’m working with volume rather than specific interest

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do i just make a super good resume and just trust?

restive falcon
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good resume + cold email

bronze echo
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interesting. do ppl post emails often? I haven’t seen many emails

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just the applications

charred roost
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Emails aren't posted here just so that recruiters don't get flooded with 20k emails from this server lol

sacred glade
lime heron
golden ginkgo
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where u at

coral geode
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Gs

golden ginkgo
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nice

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i know like 10 people interning there

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they all goated though

remote geyser
bronze echo
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understood. thanks for the followup @remote geyser

lime heron
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So I have an optional story mapping meeting today and my manager also said I'm free to attend agile meetings whenever I'm available. Does it show initiative to attend? It's my first week so I'm trying to get through all the training videos and get my environment set up but would appreciate any input from y'all on what is best practice

green salmon
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Y'all see the word contiguous in a leetcode question

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First pattern y'all think of

lapis summit
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u can get ur environment set up later

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or after work ends

lime heron
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You think? Even though I havent even started coding so will be lost the entire meeting?

lapis summit
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i learn better thru examples which is why i try to attend as many meetings as possible

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but iss up to u

lime heron
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Fair point

hexed wave
green salmon
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Hmmm

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Bet bet

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Wb prefix sum

frosty ginkgo
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its that max subarray sum thing

muted apex
hexed wave
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I mean I can’t do LC or the stuff needed for the job

thorny gorge
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agile meetings early on give you a sense of how the team works

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and youll know what to do for the next time you actually need to say something

runic tinsel
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if a HM posts a link to an application and I apply on the link, is it ok to ping the HM directly and mention something like "I've applied and look forward to next steps"?

abstract wagon
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could even go a step further and message them

runic tinsel
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yeah was thinking of messaging

runic tinsel
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Hello ___, 

I hope you are having a great week so far. 

I came across your post on LinkedIn about the internship position at ___ and have gone ahead and applied to the posting. I look forward to hearing from you with next steps.

Regards,
Zuc
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^ how's this

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editing the message rn actually, just realized that too

sweet pollen
charred roost
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Idts

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You're contributing as a member of the team

lime heron
thorny gorge
runic tinsel
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If I couldn't give a bug-free version of mergesort in my interview, should I just reduce my expectations for finding a job?

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For some reason I can't remember the exact details of all these algorithms,usually small logic like index shifting etc

peak crypt
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i had to google how to code bubble sort a few days ago PepeLaugh

runic tinsel
# peak crypt probably not

I could explain it well though. I drew out the step by step method of recursively dividing the array into half and then doing the merge step, with the correct comparisons between elements too

peak crypt
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well each company is gonna ask different things

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from my experience being able to explain well is important even if you dont get the correct implementation

runic tinsel
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I just got confused with shit like what to return, how to store the values that I split and so on

peak crypt
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learn it for next time blobshrug

runic tinsel
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Yeah

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It's so easy to forget it though

soft hound
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code it a few times so u dont forget

craggy shuttle
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My mentor gave me a story to do and idk anything yet how i am able to finish it within next 2 days 🙄

ashen needle
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If I get a sorting question I’ll just dip out the interview

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Arr.sort() is all I’ll need ever

vivid lintel
sweet pollen
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TFW your mentor says your code “looks fragile and hard to maintain”

frosty ginkgo
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imagine if your mentor never told you this and you continued doing what you did from before without any changes

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that would be bad but now you can treat this as a learning experience and fix those mistakes and apply the learnt lessons in your future code

vivid lintel
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Every internship, my first PR was always a train wreck lmao

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Internships are meant to be a learning experience. If everyone already knew what they were doing, then internships wouldn't need to exist.

night surge
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all of that for sure

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and if it is hard to maintain for them it'll be easy for you since you wrote it => return offer KEKW

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but always ask for an explanation as to why its whatever they said it was

vivid lintel
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hehe

lapis summit
craggy shuttle
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Do u guys greet ur manager first in the morning before asking the questions or just ask them the questions directly ?

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hahaha okay 😂

solemn frost
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yea same ask about weekend etc lol

dark junco
low epoch
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the first step to being good at something is to be bad it

sweet pollen
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I’m doing so incredibly poorly at my internship sad_kermit I’m going so slowly

charred roost
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Don't worry about it

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Companies aren't expecting you to be going at the speed of light

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Just go at your own pace

ashen needle
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I think you really have to re-evaluate your concept of an internship

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I’m sure you’re doing perfectly fine

charred roost
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Yeah you seem to be working hard and trying your best to learn

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That's all that internships should really be about

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It's not about being a master programmer that can solve a company's problems in 12 weeks

dark junco
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You have to remember that it can take full-time employees time to get up to speed

charred roost
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Yesh FT employees take up to 90 days to get up to speed

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Most companies have a 30-60-90 day plan for FT employees

round osprey
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Im not doing anything at my job lmao

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Just running into env errors and bugging ppl till its fixed

lapis summit
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at least you’re getting paid for it 😁

terse torrent
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formal finch
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I felt like that isn’t normal

thorny gorge
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also remember that it’s remote

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u cant just pop in and ask for help lmao

round osprey
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Yea u cant tell if ur annoying ppl or not

thorny gorge
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lmao everytime u dm someone it feels like ur annoying them

charred roost
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Yeah I feel like I’m always annoying my manager by pinging them with a question lol

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Even though they tell me it’s fine

dapper shard
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how is everyone's summer internships going?

formal finch
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finished 5th ticket today

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I fucked up hard yesterday

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Merged a whole PR by accident and had to revert that shit ASAP

dapper shard
formal finch
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nah lmaoo

hexed wave
formal finch
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sheesh @hexed wave when company starts so late lol

dapper shard
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almost finished with first week at jpmc

hexed wave
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Yessir

formal finch
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ayeee let’s goo

dapper shard
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set up the dev environment tomorrow

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probably start coding monday

hexed wave
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It takes a week to set up the environment?

dapper shard
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nah the rest of the days were orientation

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yesterday was onboarding

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today i met manager and team and finished training videos

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tomorrow environment set up

charred roost
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Damn

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My weeks going alright

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Spent the past two days setting up my dev environment

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Spending today and the next few days learning our codebase

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And familiarizing myself with the tech stack

hexed wave
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That seems mad stressful

charred roost
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It's kinda overwhelming ngl

hexed wave
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Good thing I’m not doing SWE

charred roost
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He's given me a basic schedule to follow

silk ridge
charred roost
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But he said he doesn't care if I can't follow it exactly

charred roost
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I'm basically doing a crash course in GraphQL and Spring Boot rn

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I've got an hour to add a custom GraphQL query to our QA api

hexed wave
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Wtf

charred roost
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It's just to learn lol

hexed wave
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Why are you doing so much in an internship

charred roost
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Not for an actual feature

charred roost
dapper shard
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he's learning

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sounds like fun to me

charred roost
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So I need to learn GraphQL first

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Before I can do anything else

dapper shard
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ill probably be reading documentation most of tomorrow

round osprey
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I literally got fold i am

hexed wave
charred roost
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Yeah I spent the entire day yesterday just going through GraphQL documentation

round osprey
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My mentor said to “try 3 things before pinging me”

charred roost
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And experimenting

round osprey
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Which is him saying fuck u to me

dapper shard
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no its not

charred roost
dapper shard
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he's saying try the problem and try to solve it before you come to him lul

charred roost
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Yep

dapper shard
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wants to see how you approach it and what your thought process is

charred roost
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My manager just told me to try for 30-45 minutes before pinging him

hexed wave
round osprey
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And i guess he saying to list them

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So we dont repeat effort

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Ie dont try stuff ive already said

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Okay feel less shitty now yay 🙂

dapper shard
silk ridge
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yeah you should do that anyways ^

charred roost
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My entire team is made up of senior and lead engineers so I feel way out of place lol

dapper shard
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don't worry. same

hexed wave
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Na I feel bad for you tho. You’re doing actual work

dapper shard
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or well we have one entry level dev who has already been there a year

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but everyone else is seniors

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actual work is fun tho

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if its full stack or api

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not anything else

charred roost
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Yeah I don't mind being thrown into actual work

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It's kinda interesting

hexed wave
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I do. Cuz that means i have to do it

dapper shard
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personally i don't find this work to be daunting unless im like

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programming for 6+ hours straight

charred roost
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Plus it's cool seeing the inner workings of a big site like Glassdoor lol

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Seeing the relationship between the various systems and how it's maintained

round osprey
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My project sucks ass lowkey

dapper shard
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lul

hexed wave
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Better than not having a project

charred roost
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What's your project lol

round osprey
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My probect also got changed 3x

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Project*

dapper shard
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took one look at #leetcode_discussion and then what im doing in my internship and realized leetcode is still a fucking scam kek

charred roost
dapper shard
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leetcode also gives you six figure jobs tho so 4Shrug

charred roost
hexed wave
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Being able to explain your code and thought process is def important for your job

dapper shard
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if i can't figure it out after watching like seven youtube videos and reading documentation and trying it which will probably end up being a 4-5 hours, ill probably ask someone for help

low epoch
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y'all are actually doing work? i still can't get ahold of my coworkers/managers to help me locate repos and prepare the features

charred roost
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Bruh

low epoch
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it's ok vinodh i already sent out like 3 emails to people: a level above me and at my level (coworkers)

charred roost
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Nice

low epoch
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i mean it's their loss too bruh idk what to say

charred roost
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Yeah they're just losing some money then lol

hexed wave
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Don’t say anything

charred roost
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Atleast you get to relax ig?

hexed wave
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Just collect your checks and chill

charred roost
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But I mean the whole point of your internship is to learn shit

low epoch
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i'm still reading a ton of documentation and about the tools i'd use, to try and understand
i did find some repos and look thru, but idk if they're the right ones

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yeah agreed, that's the point

charred roost
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Showing initiative is always good lol

hexed wave
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I mean I guess

charred roost
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Why do it at a job

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When I can make my government pay me instead

dapper shard
charred roost
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Just edit some internal database to change your status to FTE and update your salary

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Ez

sly egret
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so far the hardest part about my project is setting up the dev/testing environment kekcube
idk why im so slow with setting it up

runic tinsel
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Does anyone here have a blind account

sly egret
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are u trying to read posts or post on there?

runic tinsel
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No, I’m actually in search of a mentor who can help me find a job. I’m just looking for someone who’s genuinely willing to help me out and isn’t gonna expect $$$ in return

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So if someone could post on blind on my behalf that’d be great

lapis summit
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just post on reddit

runic tinsel
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Won’t find experienced people though

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And I’m trying to find hiring manager kinda people

round sparrow
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They're gonna tell u to grind lc and fuck off

abstract wagon
soft hound
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not bad advice

dapper shard
sly egret
runic tinsel
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yeah can you invite me pls

abstract wagon
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hey can you DM me too please

tulip coral
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Hi, @sly egret , could you also DM me please?

sly egret
runic tinsel
sly egret
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maybe mock interviews could help

runic tinsel
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at times its my fault too for either not showing good problem solving or not being prepped

sly egret
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it happens, i got ghosted after a final round even tho i got harder questions & interviewer said i did well but my friends got fizzbuzz and got the offer

hella rng sometimes

runic tinsel
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but when i aced linkedin and there's only 1 opening because of the team based hiring then i know its luck, because then it came down to hiring someone from the same race (i have proof) and thats just life i guess.. but if it was a generic pool of positions like general swe i would have had an offer

round sparrow
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Lmao what do you mean same race

ashen needle
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Yea that’s a bit of a bold claim, no?

flat vine
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so whats the proof @runic tinsel

velvet badge
round sparrow
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How do you know they didn't have better experience/resume

low epoch
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Good news is i was finally able to get ahold of team for my intern project and get lots of questions answered. Bad news is looks like some execs are actually especially interested in it. Including a senior VP i gotta meet with

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So i have to actually accomplish somethin smh

runic tinsel
# velvet badge How do you know the other person didn't just do better than you?

I spoke to someone at LinkedIn about this. He said that the company is forced to interview people of different races (so not everyone can be Asian or Indian for example) and at the end of the day, given two equal performances on the interviews, it comes down to who you’re most comfortable with and that CAN mean the person who’s of the same ethnicity as you (which makes sense)

soft hound
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how do you know that was your case lol

upbeat fossil
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even if it was the case, i wouldn't really consider it proof. bias exists no matter how much a company tries to discourage it

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you'd need a flat out confession or a history of pattern for proof

abstract wagon
solemn frost
lunar dagger
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I mean it's common knowledge companies try to interview a diverse set of people, but they're not gonna hire you or not hire you solely bc of your race

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At least I hope not

round sparrow
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Lmao blaming race is such cope bro

upbeat fossil
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one of the hardest things to do as a manager is performance management, and that includes hiring. i wouldn't take being rejected it too personally, sometimes the manager was just doing their best.

frosty ginkgo
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he's prolly getting rejected for smt else

lunar dagger
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Honestly it might be luck, leetcode, or some other beh thing

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like fit

upbeat fossil
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could be anything. what sucks is you'll likely never know

frosty ginkgo
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i think theres something he's not telling us tbh

upbeat fossil
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i guess so, maybe it's just culture fit

ashen needle
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It could honestly just be luck

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I failed 4 final rounds for this summer and thought I was a bum, and then the next 3 I did I got offers

flat vine
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what am i reading

low epoch
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i mean yeah we all acknowledge that, given two equal performances of candidates where one is URM and the other is not, the URM has better odds of getting hired

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but you sound like you are backtracking because your claim

I have proof
was that you feel assured you aced the interview for this position and, because the other person was hired, race must be the deciding factor

lunar dagger
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Honestly maybe we could get this guy a mock interview or something going? It sounds like there's something tripping him up and going through a mock interview might help him pinpoint what's going wrong

flat vine
lunar dagger
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they def don't judge by looks

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my offers attest to that lmao

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im an ugly mf

flat vine
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so yeah i don't think this is about race

lunar dagger
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even if u wanted to fake that, it's easy over zoom

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but didn't he also intern at fang before

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@runic tinsel I really think it would be a good idea to do a few mock interviews

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Maybe someone can help u pinpoint what's going wrong

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If there is anything wrong in the first place

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Honestly could be luck

formal finch
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I’m ugly but would u give me a chance 👉👈

thorny gorge
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ugly means ur hidden op

runic tinsel
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People wanna be around those who are most similar to them right? Why do you think it’s different in tech hahaha

low epoch
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well you're talking about human behaviors, then
idk what to say, i'm latinx and funny enough I have gotten along well with all my latinx interviewers and even performed well but none of those i got the job lmao

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it's all anecdotal at the end of the day, i trust honest employees to try their hardest to fight bias
what you're talking about is inherent biases where i see no point in discussing

obtuse pivot
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its not illegal unless explicity proven

low epoch
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@tulip bronze nah ur right, you're right to challenge my assertion
i think my claim is impossible to prove, i was thinking more of URMs in terms of race
but women absolutely get the short end of the stick

obtuse pivot
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wheres the proof tho

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Its just word vs word

low epoch
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i was just imagining this scenario where there's a group of hiring managers evaluating candidate A and B
and they literally reach a deadlock - "these performed the exact same"
and one is URM, so who to choose?

obtuse pivot
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I’m not saying I agree w it, I just like to see explicit proof before jumping conclusions

low epoch
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but your argument is that such a deadlock is rarely reached, because systemic bias against women/urm puts the orm candidate above every time

frosty ginkgo
charred roost
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Yeah they’re assuming everything else is equal

low epoch
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as "equal" as you want to define it, dracos
but for a big n, yeah i refer to the technicals

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no one has identical resumes but hypothetically if possible i'd say yes

frosty ginkgo
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it would be pretty hard to have 2 "equal" candidates if you added the behavioral portion to the mix imo

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but it probably does happen

obtuse pivot
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depends on their quota probably

low epoch
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yes and no
on paper, they might justify hiring urm because they performed better on behavioral
off paper, they want to meet a quota
the best reason is ofc "better fit for the team" (i am of the opinion that diverse teams are better)

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honest reasons are best reasons

obtuse pivot
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I think the more fit candidate should be in the offce

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office

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race is all equal, so judge based off of skil

low epoch
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we can't have just skill but yeah, it should be # 1

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i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that if a big tech company (especially the likes of amazon) has large groups of minorities claiming something...

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minorities/victimes are probably right...

obtuse pivot
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As a manager or Higher up, would you rather have employees of different races however for whatever reason some aren’t too skilled, or a team full of very skilled engineers (however, the diversity is much lower)

low epoch
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a lil of column a, a lil of column b @obtuse pivot

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no cap, diversity does help

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even if it means taking some candidates who aren't lc wizzards

obtuse pivot
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In what ways? I just am curious

frosty ginkgo
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wait thats pretty high?

obtuse pivot
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What does race change? idrk i think all race is equal

charred roost
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I thought it was increasing lol

low epoch
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it's very hard to give you tangible examples, but i'll try
diversity = different backgrounds/opinions/arguments that can happen in team discussions

frosty ginkgo
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usually online ppl say theres like 1 woman for every like 50-100 men in class

low epoch
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race/gender is an easy way to "box" people into diff categories

frosty ginkgo
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for cs

frosty ginkgo
charred roost
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I think my uni publishes numbers, lemme check

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I remember seeing an upward trend

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Rip

low epoch
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other industries, like engineering, have had situations where safety features are optimized for men because the team is all male, so women get short end of stick
inb4 "but you can have an all-male team still consider these shortcomings"

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yeah but the point is, from a sociological perspective, diversity is great for getting diverse results

frosty ginkgo
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what school?

obtuse pivot
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Again, I have no issue with diversity at all. I just don’t agree with hiring a diverse candidate who isn’t as fit for the job as a more common race if they r more fit.

frosty ginkgo
obtuse pivot
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that’s pretty high

solemn frost
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mcgill has more women than men as a whole

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for unknown reasons lmao

low epoch
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i mean do u wanna make up some dumb stupid numbers lol
we can go that route
if candidate A is urm but they're "good enough" of a fit, i'll take it

frosty ginkgo
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look at the gender/race demographic in tech

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they're not taking your jobs

low epoch
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of COURSE candidate B (white male) will fit into a white male team perfectly

charred roost
pulsar ridge
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too true

frosty ginkgo
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wait why tho

charred roost
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Alright I found some data from my uni for diversity

obtuse pivot
charred roost
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And there’s only been a slight increase in women in cs rip

low epoch
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no, i'm insinuating that, chances are, they'd fit great into a group of similar background (and thus they are likely to be considered a "better fit")

charred roost
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Here’s the data for anyone curious

frosty ginkgo
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this happens in many cs schools tbh

low epoch
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doesnt cmu have worst rep for this lol

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the sexism stuff

obtuse pivot
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Like what @split shuttle

solemn frost
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i thought top cs schools had better gender ratio bc they can be more selective at the start

obtuse pivot
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oh cuz i was abt to say that seems unusual

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i misread and thought u said people do say sexist stuff

frosty ginkgo
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females only go into tech for the money

Is that a bad thing to do lol?

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i went into tech for the money

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gotta get that dough

obtuse pivot
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if u wanted dough why not just do something else

frosty ginkgo
obtuse pivot
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Many things pay more than tech

charred roost
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You also gotta put in more effort though

obtuse pivot
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^

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agree

frosty ginkgo
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swe looks like one of the easiest high paying fields lol

solemn frost
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what pays more than tech with less or equal degree req?

frosty ginkgo
obtuse pivot
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You said dough was main goal, i didnt know if u meant including “least amount of work”

frosty ginkgo
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but u gotta grind during hs to get target school and then grind in target school

charred roost
frosty ginkgo
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and then grind the 80-90 hr work weeks KEKW

solemn frost
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yeaaa that's pain

charred roost
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90k TC for SF 😍

pulsar ridge
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less time than going to law school or med school too

obtuse pivot
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or just starts ur own company lol ceo’s r the chads

low epoch
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tech is easily best ratio of years of study/pay/wlb

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any better ratio is starting a business i guess (but that's hard)

obtuse pivot
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Yes

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its hard

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but theres no cap of $

frosty ginkgo
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building SAAS products

obtuse pivot
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300k is nothing to be paid by google or wherrever

low epoch
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bruh i thought most startups failed

obtuse pivot
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ur still a code monkey

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compared to wht the higher ups pull

charred roost
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Oh yeah an entire degree in Canada is only like 50k usd isn’t it

frosty ginkgo
low epoch
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that's fine tho, i'm cool being a code monkey making 300k

frosty ginkgo
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vinoad KEKW

obtuse pivot
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@low epoch same

charred roost
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Iirc Waterloo was like 10k/yr

obtuse pivot
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Im just stating thts how it be

frosty ginkgo
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vinoad the toad KEKW

charred roost
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Yeah that’s like one year at a US uni sadge

frosty ginkgo
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like 50k a year lol

solemn frost
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if u are from quebec and go to quebec uni it's super cheap

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4k cad per year ish

charred roost
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Yeah 50k

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That includes housing and whatnot

obtuse pivot
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i went to a worse school than the top choice i got in to, because they gave me full ride + 3k a semester

charred roost
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Tuition alone was like 36k I think

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Yep

solemn frost
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yea

charred roost
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I’m out of state

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Which is why I pay this much

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Usually are 30k per year

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Still expensive lol

solemn frost
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15k tuition and rest is living per year

obtuse pivot
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cad pay sucks cock

terse torrent
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Amazon has one woman out of 50 engineers on one team

charred roost
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I mean we get paid US rates though lol

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True

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Bay Area dream

obtuse pivot
#

fuck west coast

charred roost
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Fuck you

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I’m from the bay lol

obtuse pivot
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i dont wanna live on a faultKEKW KEKW KEKW KEKW

pulsar ridge
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mega earthquake yep

charred roost
#

Would be weird going all the way to Toronto just to come back to work

terse torrent
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Yes but got cali

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Ez

obtuse pivot
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However oregon is beautiful

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and washington

charred roost
#

California got some nice landscapes too

terse torrent
#

Cali or bust more like cali && bust

obtuse pivot
#

I just dont vibe w the cali culture

charred roost
#

We have a culture?

obtuse pivot
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Seems so materialistic and tik toky

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Its repulsive

charred roost
#

Whack

obtuse pivot
#

i guess theres probably better areas without that bullshit

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But id move to PNW

terse torrent
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Idk i just wanted to explore the arwa

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Intern Campus :(

formal finch
charred roost
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The bay is nice can confirm

obtuse pivot
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Im probably just being a dickhead , Cali does have nice weather….

charred roost
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Though I’ve been here my whole life so it do be boring

terse torrent
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So sad i didn't get to go on campus

low epoch
#

Anyone know if apple is in tx

charred roost
obtuse pivot
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Vinodh go hiking

formal finch
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Yea it is

low epoch
#

Damn that’s dream

charred roost
#

Got a lot of hills around me

formal finch
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Dang @charred roost just farm the tc

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When u get a good internship lol

charred roost
#

California taxes though

obtuse pivot
#

Texas😍

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u can live like a king in TX

terse torrent
#

Give

obtuse pivot
#

Glassdoor is a good internship? lol he gets paid like 40 iirc

solemn frost
#

10000% so happy went to mcgill instead of a US one

terse torrent
frosty ginkgo
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he gets paid 40 bucks an hr

terse torrent
#

Did u guys hear Abt the apple wfh stuff

frosty ginkgo
#

his linkedin uis up

charred roost
obtuse pivot
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Im saying he said “once u get a good internship”

terse torrent
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Bruh so i read that right

frosty ginkgo
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imfao

obtuse pivot
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And im saying he already has a good one

terse torrent
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40 an hour 🤡

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Is good

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Lol

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Uhhhh

obtuse pivot
#

Im saying its good

terse torrent
#

He's still in waterlooworks

obtuse pivot
#

simp , implied its bad lol

terse torrent
#

Copping wish interviews

charred roost
#

Oh the 40 an hour figure is in usd

terse torrent
#

Imagine

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Yes lmao

obtuse pivot
#

i think you guus misunderstood me….

charred roost
#

All good

terse torrent
#

Microsoft interviewed him when he was cheating @tulip bronze

obtuse pivot
#

Oh ok, ya i was pretty much sayinng that You already have a good internship with great pay. Lol.

terse torrent
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Before exposed

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Idt he got offer

charred roost
#

English is hard

pulsar ridge
#

he didn't get msft

terse torrent
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He's here btw

abstract wagon
#

Eric Liu what happened to that clown

terse torrent
#

In this server

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@

abstract wagon
#

Did I stutter

solemn frost
#

who is this guy

charred roost
#

Well Huawei is known for copying others

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Perfect match

abstract wagon
#

I heard he copied a project from a Huawei Engineer

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I wanna work for McDonald's

obtuse pivot
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LOL

abstract wagon
obtuse pivot
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I Wonder if mcdonalds has swag

abstract wagon
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They do LOL

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I have McDonald's merch

obtuse pivot
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LOL

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I assume mcd internview isnt challenging

abstract wagon
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I have a raptors McDonald's snapback KEKW

abstract wagon
frosty ginkgo
#

brooo eric made a new website and github

abstract wagon
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LMAO send it

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Let me see

frosty ginkgo
abstract wagon
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How do I get a .me

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?

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I want a .me domain too

frosty ginkgo
#

u can prolly buy one online

abstract wagon
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I should

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I'm using GitHub pages arm

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ATM *

obtuse pivot
#

i miss wungus

charred roost
#

Props to the dude that originally made it

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Yeah he gave credit which is cool

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Oh

real hollow
charred roost
#

Probably

charred roost
dark junco
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Wait his accomplishments are really impressive I thought he just stole stuff

solemn frost
charred roost
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He just changed the name of the repo

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Didn't change the readme or the license lol

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His previous website was also stolen from a UCLA student

solemn frost
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oh wow

charred roost
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Yeah

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He also cheated his way through various CS competitions

solemn frost
#

what cs competitions like competitive programming?

charred roost
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Like for the one that Google runs, his submissions were manually rejected by a Google employee bc they were just copied from someone else

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Like google code jam

solemn frost
#

oh okay

charred roost
#

There was one more

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Though I forgot the name of it

dark junco
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Oh that makes sense, I didn't realize about the competitions too

charred roost
#

Yeah he basically just lied wherever he could

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Even though his submissions to google code jam were rejected, he claimed that he finished in like the top 20% iirc

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So people were furious

solemn frost
#

why's this guy so desperate to lie about everything

abstract wagon
terse torrent
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he got carried probably

soft hound
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what citadel thing

charred roost
viscid ledge
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lol

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ring road bets op

craggy shuttle
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My manager added me to 2nd proj when i was almost doing good ( i think ) after 2 weeks 🙄

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Will it make diff for me to get return ?

abstract wagon
#

I know this is insanely late but do y'all know any company, any at all still hiring for summer 2021 internship positions

any of these work: Data Science Intern, Software Engineering Intern, Software Development Intern, Data Analytics Intern (or anything similar)

sweet pollen
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I’m doing so poorly at my internship sad_kermit

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I hate being dumb PepeHands

runic tinsel
solemn frost
lapis summit
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do u enjoy working on projects?

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it might be the company as well

solemn frost
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i enjoy working on personal projects yeah, but i haven't done any in a long time bc school is hard

simple hedge
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anyone else's first week of internship and they basically did nothing all week or is it jsut me

low epoch
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yeah pretty much same @simple hedge my team was slow

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but they told me they know lol

solemn frost
simple hedge
low epoch
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what is that makes u think you don't wanna do swe? @solemn frost

solemn frost
low epoch
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which felt like a punch to the gut

lapis summit
simple hedge
low epoch
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yes

simple hedge
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dangg

lapis summit
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lmao my internship is the opposite, its titled analyst but its all code

low epoch
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yeah i know, i'm just telling myself that i'll try and fit in as much actual code as i can and worst case at least i got it on resume lol

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so i can gear up for new grad apps in fall

simple hedge
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hope u can push some code prayge

solemn frost
lapis summit
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become a PM after graduating

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with a SWE background youll be more selective

low epoch
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alos maybe it's just the company

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swe is different stuff across companies/cultures

solemn frost
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might try for another internship but it's so much work to prep for in the application process

charred roost
solemn frost
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with studying algo stuff

charred roost
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And getting used to the code base

simple hedge
solemn frost
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and if not sure if i want to do it it's hard to tell if worth the effort

charred roost
simple hedge
low epoch
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for me it's java, spring boot, splunk

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w/some sql

charred roost
simple hedge
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ahhh

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I'm learning ReactJS lmaoo

charred roost
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Lmao nice

simple hedge
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thankfully tons of youtube videos on it

low epoch
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that's good, react is popular

charred roost
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I’m enjoying my internship so far

simple hedge
#

y'all remote as well?

charred roost
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But I feel like I’m always bothering my manager lol

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Feel like a burden at times

silk ridge
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ive been surprised at how fast it is to learn new tech, not used to actually focusing for hours in a row lmao

charred roost
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Lmao same

low epoch
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yeah bruh there's something about learning on job vs school

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at job you have like all these legit people

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expecting shit from u

simple hedge
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yea expectations are higher lmaoo

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meanwhile for like, sys. programming classes I'll take that L lmao

ashen needle
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i h8 java

charred roost
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I feel super out of place

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But ig it’ll improve over time

charred roost
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I think companies are done hiring for the summer now ngl

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Maybe startups might hire

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But you'd have to email around I think

coral geode
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Do y’all work 8 hours a day at your internships? Mine didn’t really tell us expected hours

little fiber
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yes

coral geode
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But like some days I’ve done 6-2 others 8-4

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Looking forward to next week since training meetings done

ashen needle
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i wanna start doing 8-4 but i cant get up in the morning for the life of me

soft hound
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wtf 6-2

charred roost
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I just do 9-5 or 10-6

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My teammates all usually start around then

soft hound
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tfw have to do 12-8

coral geode
soft hound
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dam thats rough lol

frosty ginkgo
charred roost
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Lmfao

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I should probably correct myself and say I log 9-5 or 10-6

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I kinda just work whenever

abstract wagon
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damn

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I wish

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I did 9am - 2am

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yesterday

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had to submit a 107 page report

charred roost
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Jesus

lunar dagger
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Yeah I work 12-7 aka 9-5 Cali time

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But my boss keeps telling me I don't have to work 40hrs/week and I should chill

charred roost
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What a chill boss

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You’re working at chargepoint right?

lunar dagger
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Yeah

charred roost
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Nice

lunar dagger
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And yeah he's super chill

thorny gorge
lapis summit
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im on r/rutgers cuz i have friends that go there lmao

thorny gorge
lunar dagger
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Bett

sly egret
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anyone else feel a bit behind with onboarding or is it just me

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started on the 7th

charred roost
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I managed to finish the process yesterday but man I felt slow doing it lol

sly egret
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did you start this past week too?

velvet badge
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Started on the first and didn’t speak to my manager until this Wednesday

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So don’t feel too bad lol

sly egret
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oh wow lol

velvet badge
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Yeah it be like that

charred roost
velvet badge
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Well technically the first week was orientation

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So I don’t count the first week

sly egret
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yea it was mostly orientation stuff for me too but i got a design doc outline done but thats about it, still need to get environment setup

velvet badge
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I’m still going through a lot of prep for my tech stack

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It’s overwhelming ngl but it’s a lot more rewarding than studying for school

sly egret
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omfg

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i actually love what im doing

velvet badge
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Yeah I have FUN learning lmao

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Same

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Even tho I don’t like the specific tasks itself, I’m just so excited to be working on production level code

velvet badge
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And having my project actually be a part of the platform

charred roost
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I had to move fast and get my dev environment set up already

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But just seeing how everything works and learning about the tech I'm going to be using was super fun

sweet pollen
#

To me programming is hyper stressful because I start freaking out if I don’t understand why my code isn’t working and don’t stop freaking out until I do

sly egret
#

the tasks for my project are cool, they matched me to the team perfectly w/ my background

sly egret
velvet badge
obtuse pivot
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D e b u g skills

sweet pollen
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But it doesn’t take much energy/willpower for me to code (honestly, it takes a lot of willpower for me to stop, if my code isn’t working)

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So I kind of like it in some sense?

sly egret
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same here im trying not to work during the weekend even tho i could do a lot of stuff
never felt like this in school tbh, was always doing stuff during weekends & late nights pretty often

mild kelp
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yeah same, i was thinking about working on the weekend but decided against it to take some break and have some cool down time

sweet pollen
#

I noticed that my team has quite a large proportion of interns

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Which is definitely worrying

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I think there are four full-time SWEs and two SWE interns, and one full-time PM and one PM intern. And I think another SWE intern is about to join us, though I’m not sure

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Oddly, last Friday there was a meeting of the super-team we’re a subteam of (I don’t know the correct nomenclature for these things, sorry) and, out of this team with 60-70 people, all interns were in my subteam!?

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I’m afraid they’re not really planning on giving any of us interns return offers, unless we’re literally exceptional

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What’s a normal intern:FTE ratio for a team?

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And how do return offers work? Do people almost always get a return offer to be in the same team? Or is it common to get transferred to another?

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There’s one (1) full-time SWE in my team who was an intern last summer

split fractal
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is this amazon

sweet pollen
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No

split fractal
#

which company is this

sweet pollen
#

Salesforce

split fractal
#

hm, from what I heard they have a solid return offer pipeline, so as long as your deliver it should be fine

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just bring exposure to yourself by demonstrating the things you are doing to your manager

silk ridge
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maybe they try to throw lots of interns on the same team so make them feel comfortable? like for example im the only intern on my team and it would be nice to have someone else to talk to using the same tech / codebase

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even at a big company there were only 2 interns on my team so it sounds like more than normal for sure, but not necessarily a bad thing imo

sly egret
#

how hard is it to get return offer from amazon?

split fractal
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not hard

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just deliver project, and they will give return, very straightforward process

sly egret
#

do i need to hit stretch goals too?

split fractal
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and even if you want to switch teams you can just reject, and apparently (not guaranteed) but they will try to find you a spot

#

probs not imo

sweet pollen
split fractal
#

they hire so much its unbelievable at Amazon

sly egret
#

tbh i think my project is simple but there's probably a lot that i cant think of atm that goes into it, plus i have to wait for design docs to be approved and that sort of stuff

abstract wagon
#

isnt the point of intern to evaluate candidates in real swe environment and as long as they are ok, hire them over taking a chance with a random nonintern

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im sure intern return is preferrable for company over new hire as long as you arent complete shit

sly egret
#

thats what i assumed as well

abstract wagon
#

at fb they keep telling us a story of an intern who completely broke instagram but still got a return offer

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so cant be that bad right :))

sweet pollen
abstract wagon
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just prepare for it, it wont be that bad

sweet pollen
abstract wagon
#

they give lots of chances here so he probably just didnt improve whatever they told him to improve

sweet pollen
#

He seems to have gotten a better offer, though, so that’s good

sweet pollen
#

How often do you guys think "I could generalize these functions more" when programming?

craggy shuttle
#

Even if no return, Salesforce on your resume will help you get more interviews

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Although they told that they have 2 reviews like a manager fills out a survey and go over with us in 6 or 7th week

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to tell us what all things we are doing fine and what else needs to be done.

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Also, Salesforce gave return offer to few last year who didn’t even completed the entire project, as it was so long 🙄

#

As far as you communicate well and deliver / do your deliverables, return should not be hard.

sweet pollen
#

I don't communicate well :/

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I was given a small project, which I'm almost done with, and I don't know what I'll do afterwards. How will this impact my chances of getting a return offer?

abstract wagon
# sweet pollen I don't communicate well :/

You need to have more confidence with yourself literally you got Salesforce. That means you're quite good . Some of us ( including me ) could only dream of getting a fucking interview there lol. Just keep learning and asking lots of questions. I've heard Salesforce return offer is quite high so you should relax and enjoy the Internship and try your hardest and stop thinking about the negatives and the what ifs 24/7. Take it as it comes

lapis summit
#

should i try to get a return offer even if i don’t like the job

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programming for cyber security purposes is fun but not as fun as software engineering

abstract wagon
lapis summit
#

true true

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maybe they’ll bump my pay up for next year

abstract wagon
#

Yeah maybe

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Or you could negotiate it

floral birch
#

how should I dress for my internship?

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dress shirt?

carmine moss
#

i think it's super casual

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i dressed nice like the first 2-3 days

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then it's pre chill most ppl come in sweaters and stuff at my workpalce

silk ridge
#

yeah i guess company dependent but i think usually you can wear whatever

floral birch
#

ight cool

silk ridge
#

maybe banks are more formal idk, i wear a t shirt everyday at both my internships

floral birch
#

ye I think mine would be more casual

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ill dress up a bit for the first day and see what everyone else is wearing and go from there

sly egret
#

it's company dependent tho

floral birch
#

yeah its on zoom too

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im prolly chillin

sly egret
#

it feels so weird not having to worry about hw or studying for exams on the weekends monkaS

hexed wave
#

No it doesn’t

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It feels great

sly egret
#

i know, its amazing
but im not used to it yet 🤣 too used to panicking about stuff on weekends

sweet pollen
#

I feel like my manager has little idea of what I’m doing

#

Our PM ended up deciding to give me a project that didn’t seem to fit the kind of project my manager wanted me to work on, and I don’t think my manager knows

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I’m nervous that that’ll make me not get a return offer

past frigate
#

anyone who is working in person, what did you bring for you first day/does anyone have suggestions on what I should bring for my first day as an intern

lunar dagger
#

You should probably bring shoes

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In all seriousness I had an in person internship 2 yrs back and all they had me bring was a government id

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Everything else they gave me when I got there

#

You probably have like a first day email or something outlining what you need to bring

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Anything else you might need will be given to you

#

It might be helpful to have a small scratchpad and a pen if you wanna note something down tho

sweet pollen
#

Who else is eager to start work tomorrow?

charred roost
#

I'm kinda excited

abstract wagon
#

I wanna die

charred roost
#

Gonna actually start working on my project

abstract wagon
#

I'm working rn

charred roost
#

Bruh

abstract wagon
#

For deloitte

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Kill me

#

please

lunar dagger
#

f

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honestly at this point I'd chill out a bit

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especially if you're planning on leaving early

abstract wagon
#

the file is due tomorrow

#

45000 words

lunar dagger
#

bruhhhh

#

best of luck to you my man

abstract wagon
lunar dagger
#

I'm praying for you to cop that fall 2021 offer

abstract wagon
lunar dagger
#

Yeah that sounds like a good idea

frosty ginkgo
umbral knot
restive falcon
#

cannot believe i actually have to work now

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ugh

abstract wagon
#

Imagine working till 2am and they still expect you to clock in at 9

restive falcon
#

if ur working until 2am as an intern

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ur clowning urself

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no company is worth that

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everyone is vaxxed have a hot girls summer instead

jagged mason
#

are you at citadel breadboard?

restive falcon
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no

abstract wagon
sweet pollen
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Would it be bad if I gave a fellow intern advice? She was tasked with implementing the UI part of a feature I implemented the backend part of and I feel an urge to help her with a specific thing she said she needed help with. But two other SWEs are already doing that

flat vine
#

yes

sweet pollen
#

Update: I did it and she said “O wow thank you Natalia!” (even though the MTS and LMTS SWEs had found a better way to do the thing?!) and this feels good :’)

golden ginkgo
#

it's the hunger games

charred roost
#

Lmfao

coral geode
#

what are y'all internship goals that you speak to your managers about

charred roost
#

We've kinda just discussed what the overall goal is for my internship period

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And what I'd need to do over the next 2 weeks for the current sprint

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That's about it

coral geode
#

nice. we were told to come up with goals (by HR) and to make sure to discuss them with manager

charred roost
#

Oh nice

low epoch
#

damn felt so stupid today asking mentor for help setting up dev environment
good news is it's all good to go

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but the documentation was pretty confusing for me and i had to screen share and troubleshoot
all things considered i probably took 3 hours of his time; only consolation is this is first time i really take time from them, fortunately is very nice person

charred roost
#

Nice

sly egret
#

and if time allows he used to work at a crypto startup so im def gonna ask him about that & talk about my degen normie coins

sly egret
lapis summit
#

is interning fun

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i still have a month to go until mine

lunar dagger
#

If you enjoy working on projects or building stuff, then yeah

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It's really cool to be able to put something together and watch it be used in production

lapis summit
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mmm ok thas cool

#

my internship is focused around cloud computing and i have no idea what to expect

lunar dagger
#

maybe google what a cloud computing intern does? honestly no idea lmao

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Or ask in the general chat

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I'm sure there's a ton of ppl who've done cloud computing internships before

loud raft
#

I worked in cloud after my freshman year but it was QA not SWE so not entirely sure if its similar

lapis summit
#

its cybersec cloud

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databases and stuff

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working with sql and python scripting

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not really a software engineering internship but still pretty interesting

sly egret
hexed wave
rugged mango
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anyone have a good work/study/fun/LC/sleep routine?

hexed wave
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You work, then study, then have fun, then LC, then sleep

frosty ginkgo
shrewd karma
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that sounds exhausting

frosty ginkgo
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so its all good

dark junco
#

Wait what that's a crazy schedule

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You spend like 6 hours on learning stuff

velvet badge
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With breaks and stuff in between ofc

ashen needle
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I can’t get myself to do any development outside of work lmao

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Once I’m done I just wanna relax

low epoch
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u might need more breaks during workday

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like every 30 min just step away

velvet badge
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I just do constant pomodoro sessions

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During work and LC

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Just gotta be strict and not get distracted by social media or videos so I just read lmao

low epoch
velvet badge
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Generally want to have two mins of rest for every 10 mins work you do

coral geode
coral geode
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When I get bored of finally having videogame time maybe I’ll swap it out for LC

rugged mango
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my current routine:
7-9 shower, workout, leetcode, other morning routine things
9-5 work and slacking off
5-7 life
7-8 extra study and classes
8-10 wind down, fun, relax

frosty ginkgo
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which is why i said 9am-4pm work/bullshit

rugged mango
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i aspire to be like you for the rest of the year

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then in 2022 i'll relax finally

charred roost
coral geode
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Y’all wildin

rugged mango
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how does one become the best slacker?

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finish your work fast and leave the last parts till the end?

solemn frost
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damn u guys sound rly efficient

tired pendant
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I just fYeah I have

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i got an interview

charred roost
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Good luck

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That was a major throwback

lunar dagger
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Oh wtf I thought that was for fall lmao

rugged mango
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interview? for next summer?

charred roost
sinful tinsel
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does it look good to put projects on my linkedin page?

simple saffron
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my internship is so stressful

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so many dev tools

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what the fuck

pliant hawk
simple saffron
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i took a stress nap today

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and had a dream about debugging

pulsar shadow
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My internship is low stress, but the the pay is not good 😦

pliant hawk
sweet pollen
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My internship is very stressful but I feel like literally everything is very stressful for me ☹️

simple saffron
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fuckin TRU

lime heron
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Yeah I have a lot of dev tools as well :/ the days have been going fast but at the end of them I dont know what I even did all day

grand tiger
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I have a bug in my internship that I do not know how to debug

simple saffron
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same i literally have 10 weeks left but all i can think is.. that’s not enough time

charred roost
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Same

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I have a total of 6 tasks to do over my internship

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And idek how I'mma finish them all

little fiber
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today was me chucking a bunch of potential solutions at a problem and none of them working

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so i vibe w yall

grand tiger
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@little fiber I feel you

abstract wagon
little fiber
abstract wagon
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3 months of internship

little fiber
pliant hawk
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I got the code base on day 2, I am scared

charred roost
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Dude same

abstract wagon
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Does anyone know how hard Salesforce interview is?

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I have a high up individual willing to refer me

charred roost
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I basically spent my first week just reading the code base

pliant hawk
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My coach said “study it”
I was like
MikeSullyFaceSwap

pliant hawk
charred roost
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Lmfao my manager was busy dealing with some tickets so he didn't give me a goal

pliant hawk
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lmao

charred roost
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But then when we had our one on one on Friday, he was like "Yo you've been zooming through the onboarding process"

pliant hawk
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My login for time clock ain’t working. If it don’t work by Friday I don’t get paid probably Behehehe

charred roost
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Like ???

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I did nothing fam how is that "zooming"

charred roost
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I got my project yesterday

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Along with some Jira tickets

pliant hawk
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Oh?

simple saffron
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my first paycheck came in today and i was like yep and then i looked back at my JIRA tickets and i was like monkaS

pliant hawk
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Ayo wtf is Jura

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Jira -

charred roost
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Manager busy with big issues and constantly is in meetings so I can't ask questions rip

pliant hawk
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I jus got authorization for it KEKW

simple saffron
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it’s a tool that organizes ur sprints and stuff

pliant hawk
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I gotta sprint?? monkaw

charred roost
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It was nice seeing the number in the bank account not be 0

simple saffron
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basically the tasks u gotta do

charred roost
pliant hawk
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Oh shit they givin me my own trello? ShiiiiT

charred roost
pliant hawk
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Can’t wait

charred roost
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So you're given X days/weeks to finish Y tickets

pliant hawk
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It’s all in JS idk if I’m happy or depressed

charred roost
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Except my tickets are on the back burner so idek when I gotta finish them by :)

pulsar shadow
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React project?

pliant hawk
charred roost
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Not bad

pliant hawk
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Hapi framework for backend

charred roost
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My entire codebase is in java

pliant hawk
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Ain’t ever heard of it. Only used express

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Each files like 2k lines kekhands

charred roost
pliant hawk
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Aight my shits in 1 repo thank god LMAO

charred roost
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I think the longest file I've seen so far is only around 500 lines

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But then again there are thousands of files

torn dagger
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Also just got access to my code base today and I’m so lost

pliant hawk
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It’s JS so like the routing files makes sense

pliant hawk
charred roost
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Dude this java codebase is so whack

torn dagger
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Gotta learn kotlin in a day lmao