2021_summer

[charred roost]

VMWare and Pocket Gems are still hiring iirc

[frosty ginkgo]

and random startups^

[charred roost]

Pocket Gems sent out OAs yesterday lol

[frosty ginkgo]

just cold email for ur life

[charred roost]

True

Intel too to some extent

But Intel is very team dependent

From what I've heard

[frosty ginkgo]

bro i remember i sent out like 4 cold emails to startups as a junior

and i got a 50% response rate

of 2 rejections, 2 ghosts

[mint cipher]

lololol

[charred roost]

damn imagine being that goated as a high school junior

[frosty ginkgo]

naw they told me to apply in college

[charred roost]

50% response > 0% response

[frosty ginkgo]

yea true fs

now i have a 100% response rate with 2 rejections and 1 final

[charred roost]

Truly goated

went from 50% response rate to 100% response rate in a year

During COVID too

[frosty ginkgo]

i mean cssi and fintech focus gave guaranteed responses so theres that

[charred roost]

oh i didn't know that lol

[neat tiger]

Where do you even find the emails to cold email

[mint cipher]

here lol

this is at least one source

[neat tiger]

well if anyone has recruiter emails that they would be willing to share, please dm me ❤️

[mint cipher]

u gotta ask for specific ones

like which company you want

i dont have any lol
but im sure someone else will help

[cyan valley]

lol

no onei s gonna just hand u emails like that

[cyan valley]

cuz once the email gets leaked

then they get spammed and no one gets responded to

[abstract wagon]

headsup 2023 stuff are already opening

[charred roost]

bruh

damn they got DP in the OA?

tap out

nice

[night surge]

i like the oatmeal

arent u under pepsico

i thought they were pretty good

dw ill keep buying the oats

[opaque bloom]

when do ppl usually start applying for next summer

[charred roost]

now

but seriously, most start applying in like July

[night surge]

Idk about that

Lol

[charred roost]

already got rejected by IMC for Summer 22 👌

[night surge]

Ok I smelled a vape

Lol me too

[charred roost]

? lol

[night surge]

I gave them my shitty resume

[charred roost]

Same

[mint cipher]

i thought most people started applying in late august

im sure only the most hardcore start applying in july

[frosty ginkgo]

they alr applied in 2001

all the summer 2022 spots have been taken

[mint cipher]

cant tell if 2001 is a typo or not

[frosty ginkgo]

shit i meant 2000 mb

[mint cipher]

hmmm kk makes sense

[spare patio]

when do US students usually do their internship? end of May to mid August?

[mint cipher]

My understanding is that companies usually let students start their internships right when their semester/quarter ends. So if it ends in June then the internship starts in June

But if the semester or quarter ends in May then the internship starts in May

[patent sluice]

all my internships have started in early june

probably varies by company. amazon and google lets interns choose their dates i think

[weak oracle]

Amazon def does

[steady obsidian]

lmao mine starts 2 weeks after my semester ends

like mid may

got no time to rest

[charred roost]

Rip

[steady obsidian]

fuck it, imma road-trip and do my internship virtually

[charred roost]

Mine starts early june so I've got just under a month to relax

but it also ends literally right before school starts

[steady obsidian]

yeah same

[charred roost]

so I gotta continue the grind immediately

[steady obsidian]

I end on Friday, my school starts 2 days later on Monday

[charred roost]

Same

I actually have to end a week early rip

Final week of the internship is the same as my first week of school

And I'll be on campus at that point

[steady obsidian]

senior year

[charred roost]

[hexed wave]

Rip I only have 5 weeks to rest before my internship starts

[charred roost]

rip

[lunar crow]

Look at you getting 5 whole weeks lol. I got like 4 days

[flat vine]

you're gonna get bored

had 2 weeks between when my semester ended and internship started

longest 2 weeks of my life

[hexed wave]

I am?

I’m gonna be out everyday

It’s summer

[charred roost]

you vaccinated?

cdc says if you're fully vaccinated, you can stop wearing masks for the most part

[hexed wave]

I’m vaccinated but I’m still wearing masks. I’m always in decently large crowds

[steady obsidian]

i will be fully vaccinated tomorrow

get fucked anti-vaxxers

[hexed wave]

Lmao should’ve just got j and j it’s one shot and that’s it

[charred roost]

Yeah they still make you wear masks when going in large crowds

But you can now freely walk around outside without a mask

[charred roost]

nice

[night surge]

You still have to get tested

[lunar dagger]

wtf

have y'all ever see n like thos

"irish need not apply" signs

[formal finch]

which company

[lunar dagger]

from like boston in the 60s or whatever

idr I closed the tab

[formal finch]

fuck them anyways

[lunar dagger]

some mid sized tech company lmao

[charred roost]

ctrl + shift + t

name and shame

[lunar dagger]

ring central

[charred roost]

damn

[prisma stump]

Hi! Is anyone else not able to access #intern_postings_old ?

[boreal orchid]

It's for the discord bot to post postings, not users

[night surge]

whos actually used ring central before

[prisma stump]

I meant like, I also can't see posts there either

Ah it's working now

[thin stag]

anyone take the wayfair oa? what kinda difficulty is it?

[noble sand]

its rough out here

im so close to making a “i dont have an internship post” on linkedin :’)

[formal tartan]

does anyone have any experience doing two internships at the same time for a few weeks?

[south kraken]

is this in india?

[final hawk]

No US

[muted apex]

so what happens in this situation?

delayed start?

or... do you get axed?

[south kraken]

Someone from india got asked the same question this week at Google india 🤯🤯

Wait internships do background checks? 🤔🤔

What all did they ask?

[charred roost]

Yeah a lot of them do in the US

[charred roost]

They don't ask questions in a background check lol, they take your personal info like SSN, Driver's License, etc. and see your employment history, GPA, etc.

[south kraken]

I have a very serious question

I am going to apply for my first internship ever

And my resume is empty without any experience

Im thinking of filling it up with projects

Is this enough to get calls?

[dapper shard]

i mean if your resume is empty of job experience

then yeah you'll want to include projects and other CS related stuff as much as you can so you can get noticed

[charred roost]

Yeah projects and clubs should be enough

[dapper shard]

for my first internship i included three projects and my CS club so that i could get noticed

after you start getting job experience though those things arent that important to keep on the resume tbh

[charred roost]

Yeah I had 4 projects and 2 engineering clubs on mine to get my internship for this summer

[south kraken]

Wtf is a cs club

We don't have them here in India lol

[dapper shard]

i was used to be in the computer science and cybersecurity clubs at my school. not in them anymore

ah

idk how it be in india 🤷‍♂️

[south kraken]

How many lines of code should a respectable project should be?

[charred roost]

Doesn't really matter how many lines of code there are tbh

As long as it does something "cool", it's fine to include

[low epoch]

Not tutorial level, respectable readme, everything else doesn’t matter

[ionic bronze]

at least 1000k

[frosty ginkgo]

Depends on how the resume is

[remote geyser]

Depends on Company

for example Amazon is only criminal Check

Other places might do transcript/grades verification or employment history

[shrewd karma]

^^ yup, dpeends on vendor too. Salesforce uses Sterling which does employment history checks, but I don't think HireRight does

[fast dagger]

What if google checks through your search history

[boreal orchid]

My HireRight had employment history check

[hexed wave]

It is enough. But you still might not get calls back

[sweet pollen]

This is what I guess will happen 😔

[muted apex]

hoping for the best for you friend 🤝

[boreal orchid]

Has your recruiter said anything about the situation?

[lunar dagger]

bruh that's so shitty

[round sparrow]

There's no way u get axed, worst case they delay start date

[grave crown]

Don’t sweat it bruh, my recruiter ended up canceling my undergrad check because they don’t give a shit if the bgcheck company can’t verify a thing or two.

[gentle tangle]

bro my recruitor lost connection and disconnected

[craggy shuttle]

they even demand for HS transcripts.

[agile saffron]

any barclays interns

[sweet pollen]

They who?

[mint cipher]

anyone got resources for non-technical interviews?

[craggy shuttle]

Salesforce

they demanded that from me

[humble pendant]

this is specifically for Amazon's leadership principles, but sometimes similar questions come up in other companies' interviews- worthwhile read: https://medium.com/@scarletinked/are-you-the-leader-were-looking-for-interviewing-at-amazon-8301d787815d

also generally, be able to go through and explain your history on your resume, be able to explain at least 2 projects from beginning to end from why you decided to make it, your design choices , results, etc. and answer questions like "how do you deal with a hostile work environment", "what got you interested in the field" , "why x company" etc. During the interview, don't be afraid to ask for time to think if nothing comes into mind at first and sometimes you have to make stuff up if nothing you've done really fits their question. if that happens, usually try to twist the truth a bit rather than full out lying so that if they ask follow up questions, you won't trip

[formal finch]

dude the last part is so fucking true

[humble pendant]

yeah you get good at doing improv after doing a lot of interviews

[sweet pollen]

Your HS transcript or HS diploma? I was only asked for my HS diploma

[craggy shuttle]

I submitted transcript and my background is cleared!

[sweet pollen]

I see

I feel so bad for having lost my internship 😔

[craggy shuttle]

naah, just get in touch with the recruiter

did u get any email from Recruiting Operations (Salesforce) ?

I think u r fine! Just keep communicating with them

I got my background check within a week

[thick hare]

Maybe you should get on a call with your recruiter to discuss this whole thing

[runic tinsel]

@sweet pollen it's not a "lie" if you never mentioned any revenue/income on your resume. It's only a lie if you did mention some sort of revenues so dw you'll be fine, I think these background check companies just dive too deep sometimes 🙂

For future reference though, if you don't wanna go thru a hassle, just mention Barnard too since it's technically not Columbia. So say something like Barnard/Columbia or add both schools

^ I know Salesforce didn't bother about this but I'm sure you won't wanna go thru this stress again right :p

[empty parrot]

I took it, I think it’s an easy OA with one simple DP question and 2 easy Leet code questions

[runic tinsel]

Starting to feel like my experience isn't strong enough for a FAANG type SWE role

Since I have DE and Growth analyst experience at FAANG

[terse torrent]

Wym u got step no?

[runic tinsel]

mp

no*

[mint cipher]

Why would that not be enough

[frosty ginkgo]

sir its ur interviews that you're failing

im pretty sure you talked abt how many final rounds/onsites u had a while back

[terse torrent]

if ur getting interviews

what swe skills?

its just leetcode

and talk like a normal human being

if u do enoug practice u will be fine 🙂

[fresh blaze]

Oh there was a DP problem lmao

[lunar dagger]

Wait @split fractal

I just realized

When u asked about that waymo oa I thought you meant wepay for some reason

I'm mad cooked

[sweet pollen]

Just received this

[split fractal]

lol

[charred roost]

Bruh

[shrewd karma]

[sweet pollen]

(Context in my previous messages in this channel)

[gentle tangle]

wow

they going hard

[earnest musk]

lmao hireright called into my work to verify i worked there... and i was on shift and took the call

i waas like 'out of curiosity do are you looking for me "

[sweet pollen]

What do you mean with that?

Wait. Why are they asking for that statement?

I think I am missing something

😔

I’m so not ready for what’s coming

How do I cope with this?

[humble pendant]

Just send the email back to them with what it says - a statement about having an unsuccessful startup that generated no revenue, etc. and cc your recruiter when you send the email.

[sweet pollen]

I wish this had happened right after I got my offer, so that I could find another internship

Now I won’t even have the money to be cryopreserved

[craggy shuttle]

You can still start, while your background check is in progress

[crimson brook]

Ngl man health first always the internship can wait

I had a pretty big health scare in January and that shit rlly put things into perspective (grind ended up continuing after I was ok tho rip)

[sweet pollen]

It seems like it won’t be in progress anymore once I send her the email she’s requesting 😔

[craggy shuttle]

naah it's kinda declaration from your end. I think u ll be fine

I didnt even mentioned my prev univ, and they were fine lol

and they did mentioned in the meeting today, that background check tkes 3-4 weeks and sometimes it might be earlier

[sweet pollen]

I sent the statement she requested 😔

Waiting to get axed

[sweet pollen]

😮

I’ll be able to afford medical treatment and life insurance! 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

[little fiber]

congrats!!

[charred roost]

Congrats!!

[velvet badge]

Congrats! Hopefully you get the help you need with everything!

[craggy shuttle]

COngrats!

[terse torrent]

congrat

s

[simple saffron]

my internship starts in 1 month

ive done my bg check and everything, but should I be concerned that I havent heard anything regarding the actual internship yet?

esp pay and stuff, as i'm trying to find my apt

[charred roost]

they should've mentioned pay in your offer letter?

[simple saffron]

no yeah I know my tentative pay

but like

tax stuff? doesnt that come before

[charred roost]

ah

[lunar crow]

Wdym? Isnt that part of the onboarding process?

[silver lark]

^

pretty sure they'll have you fill out W2/W4 and all that tax stuff in the first couple days

[simple saffron]

ah gotcha

[lunar crow]

My internship starts Monday, and I filled out my bank stuff today and the tax forms last week.

[silver lark]

at least that's what happened at my two internships (1 startup, 1 big corp)

[lunar crow]

Theyll do it closer to your start date

[simple saffron]

when did you get onboard outreach

[lunar crow]

2 weeks before my start date

They also needed my address to send laptop

You should expect the same probably.

But you can always just email your recruiter asking whats next in the process, if youre curious.

[simple saffron]

gotcha thanks brother

[muted apex]

woohoo!

hope everything is good with your health fam

what a fuckin rollercoaster from the last 2 days wtf

lol

[hasty panther]

Yo, anyone who applied for EAD early March got it authorized yet for their summer internship

[runic tinsel]

Do you have to ace the tesla oa to get a phone screen? This is for a summer 2021 swe internship

[neat tiger]

bruh has anyone dealt with LendingTree

that interview was...intense

[green salmon]

Has anyone interviewed with cloudflare?

[dapper shard]

pog, you going to be just fine 🙂

[steady obsidian]

damn, I feel ready for this new grad 2022 cycle

[glossy vapor]

I got an email two weeks ago with my mentors and the email suggested i reach out to them, ive been insanely busy with classes and stuff

should i put a small apology for reaching out so late?

[steady obsidian]

if I were in your shoes, I would

[lunar dagger]

Yeah

I'd just say sorry for reaching out late - I've been busy with classes and wrapping up other end-of-schoolyear related stuff

Or you could just leave it at I've been really busy and hadn't had the time to reach out until now

[night surge]

yeah i did the latter

[fresh blaze]

does anyone what codesignal score you need for Samsara?

[runic tinsel]

i had 804 for robinhood and samsara and i got ghosted

no idea why i got ghosted tho

[fresh blaze]

i guess its all automated lmao

[glossy vapor]

Kk ty all

[fresh blaze]

is it too late to use a referral for summer 2021 for a swe internship now?

[brave heron]

How long did it take to hear back after submitting oa

[lunar crow]

Ngl if you announcing an internship, with generic ass shit and then thank the recruiter of all people "for making it easy" or whatever, I dont rate you.

[real hollow]

Cringe at the "smooth interview process"

like bih

stfrigup

[shrewd karma]

LMAOO stfrigup??

i have no ide awhat that means but its hilarious af

[round osprey]

Announcing internships and thanking recruiters and clement is smooth brain moment

Real Gs job update “incoming at Company”

[earnest kestrel]

Does anyone know if Uber or AirBnB was hiring interns for this summer?

[ancient flower]

uber is full and airbnb didnt hire anyone this summer

[earnest kestrel]

Got ya ,Preciate it👍🏾

[formal finch]

No Airbnb hired ppl but very quickly

According to someone from my school but Idk if that’s entirely true

[ancient flower]

wait what

theyre hiring interns??

or they did?

[formal finch]

He wasn’t joking

[ancient flower]

😮

[amber lark]

what i tell you man, congrats. you just gotta sit tight, let HR do their thing. it's pretty annoying to email back n'forth, but next time try not to stress over it too much!

[muted apex]

And Clement 😭😭😭

LOL

[round osprey]

Bro it is

“Shout out to algoexpert.io...”

Smooth brain moment

[muted apex]

LeetCode been there for me since the beginning can’t turn my back on it

[lunar crow]

Whats binarysearch.com? This looks like a rip off of leetcode.

So is it basically leetcode, but they made everything free?

Like the open source version?

[amber lark]

When you see them tag the recruiter, you gotta connect with their recruiter and find another position

[lunar crow]

True

[gilded agate]

Man I hope I get this internship, I got to the 2nd round interview a hour eraly due to them sending me the wrong time, then I needed the dev interviewing me to basically guide me through the problem since he didnt want me to do the brute force method and Im bad with hashMaps

either way ill know next week

[woven wren]

Does anyone know anything about five9?

I see their applications once in awhile but I've never ran into anyone on this server whose interviewed/worked for them

Are they reputable

[earnest musk]

for those whos internships are remote, did ur offer give u a laptop without asking? mine just said that a VPN would suffice but if I really needed a laptop they would send it

[charred roost]

yeah my company is sending me out a laptop for the summer without question

[round sparrow]

Most companies send laptops

[real hollow]

It's a compliance issue if they let you use your own (most of the time)

They should send you one

[round sparrow]

U should ask for a laptop so u don't bog down ur personal computer

[obtuse spruce]

Yeah you have to return it at the end tho

[earnest musk]

interesting... thank u all

[glass minnow]

I still havent heard back from them. Hbu?

Its already May, I'm not sure how they'll onboard candidates this late

[earnest kestrel]

Hey guys quick question, when tracking leetcode progress do you consider a problem solved even if you had to look at the solution?

[formal finch]

I would say come back around it if you need to look back at it again

I would say it solved

[opaque bloom]

anyone interview w/ continental?

[small fossil]

You can only use this command in #2021_grad_process or #2021_intern_process

[green salmon]

R these basically

The responsibilities of a software engineering intern

[charred roost]

Yeah Front End engineer

[green salmon]

Yea idk why it's called network architecture

[charred roost]

That's whack

[noble sand]

anyone know what offers look like at Mercedes Benz? R&D SWE

[charred roost]

^ also interested

I applied but got ghosted lol

[noble sand]

do i get a car if i can get the offer😭

[runic tinsel]

is it generally a good thing to write "I thought I'd ask what I can expect in the interview"

or should I just say something like "What can I expect?"

Grammar-wise

[charred roost]

With full time?

Yeah

Company cars are a thing

I know with certain financial positions at Porsche you can get a 911 company car lol

[noble sand]

im a sophomore rip😭

[charred roost]

Rip same lol

But ft conversion for next summer is the goal

[noble sand]

i wanna work at apple next summer

[mint cipher]

you can do it💪

[charred roost]

Yeah lol

And it's in a yearly lease so you get a new one every year

Porsche is wild

[whole kettle]

Brb changing careers to get a financial position at Porsche

[umbral heart]

Don't you need to know German to work at porsche?

[charred roost]

For engineering I think so

I tried looking for swe internships at Porsche but they're all in Germany

There's also Porsche Digital here in Palo Alto

[umbral heart]

Their swe said youd have to speak fluent German in Atlanta

[charred roost]

but I have no clue what they do

[charred roost]

Yeah I assume you communicate a lot with executives and other engineers in Germany

so knowing German would be essential

[bronze echo]

Hi- interested in emailing a small 14 people company to ask for an internship position (free/paid) that's not posted. They have an email posted on their site. I really want to make th ebest impressiona nd havent done anything like thsi before. Anything I should know?

[shrewd karma]

Short and straight to the point, say why you’re interested

[mint cipher]

I’m not too sure about this, but maybe don’t mention that you’ll do a free internship. That way if they were willing to pay then maybe they won’t pay.

[bronze echo]

Username checks out

[mint cipher]

Indeed

[lunar dagger]

I had an interview today where my interviewer was the lead for the team I'd be working on. If the interviewer mentioned after my interview that he's gonna talk to his boss about what my salary would be and when I would start, then that's a good sign, right?

[golden ginkgo]

that's my dream job ffs

[charred roost]

yeah I think that's a positive sign

[golden ginkgo]

better than faang

straight up

[lunar dagger]

Aight bett

Fingers crossed

[charred roost]

[lunar dagger]

[charred roost]

yee working for automotive r&d would be real nice

[golden ginkgo]

dream internship*

faang prolly better for long term goals

[charred roost]

probably yea

[lunar dagger]

I just wanna job with chevy so they'll lease me a corvette for free

[charred roost]

but automotive also growing in terms of tech so we'll see

[golden ginkgo]

just buy a corvette with your rsu

shit is hella cheap

[lunar dagger]

That's if I can get a job in the first place lmao

Boutta be broke

[charred roost]

Lmao

[lunar dagger]

thank you psyducc

I appreciate it man

If I get this I'll be so hyped

I've been grinding apps since august, but I've been seriously fiending since feb

[abstract wagon]

What would u’ll chose for a final internship amazon or waymo, if waymo has a very low return offer rate for new grad

[remote geyser]

wait don't you already have a couple offers ?

[lunar dagger]

Two

One was at tiny startup and was unpaid

and the one that just came in is at chargepoint

I'm in the interview process (mid/late stage) for a few other companies, but I think I'm gonna withdraw

[unborn zodiac]

!join Ripple

[unborn hornet]

@unborn zodiac, Please run this command in the #bot_commands channel

[thick ridge]

depends on your confidence in getting an amazon offer thru newgrad pipeline

i think waymo has way more upside

and if you can pass intern interviews for amz u can probably pass the ng interviews

so just based on that I'd take the latter

[obtuse spruce]

corvette corvette

[round osprey]

False. You would have 20 more options. You would be at citadel not waymo

[lunar dagger]

Wait what?

Is waymo owned by citadel

[thick ridge]

bruh lmao

I'd take waymo over citadel in a heartbeat

[lunar dagger]

Oh lmao you're citadel dude

Bro with citadel you can cop waymo anytime

Apply and they'll be mailing you an offer letter in really nice paper with next day shipping

[round osprey]

Shutup ik ur a money feen

[gilded agate]

Is it bad that the 2 people I emailed at the company I interviewed with have not responded to my email I sent yesterday?

[lunar dagger]

No

[round osprey]

Give em a bit

[lunar dagger]

I emailed a dude for an interview and they responded a week later

[willow orchid]

@gilded agate i emailed and no response either. for 3 days buddy.

these recruiters deserve to have their job replaced by machines

and boy i will be drinking to that the day it comes

[gilded agate]

Ya today is the last day they said they were doing final interviews so they are probably busy/ have found the perfect candidate thats not me lol

[willow orchid]

@gilded agate u interviewing at big n type or startup?

usually larger ones have shit recruiters

[gilded agate]

mid size seattle company

[willow orchid]

yeah fucking recruiters man

piss me off

[gilded agate]

ya I wish they at least were faster with denials

[willow orchid]

just wait until they say bye bye to job ft. machines

[formal finch]

I’m not even gonna cap. I’m with Rohanzo on this one

[obtuse spruce]

isnt it by google?

[formal finch]

Waymo seems cooler and better wlb

Money can’t buy everything

[formal finch]

Yeah it was project by Google then it went to become like sub company

[lunar dagger]

yeah they branched off

but I thought when the other dude mentioned citadel

that he was saying waymo = citadel

bc I forgot rohanzo copped citadel

[frosty ginkgo]

thats why u jump out of trading in your mid/late 20's

but yea agreed

i wonder whats more intensive : being an engineer/trader at a trading firm or an investment banker at a top firm

[willow orchid]

#2 by far its not even close @frosty ginkgo

[little fiber]

Yeah def IB

IB you’re regularly working 100 hour weeks, if not worse

For trading you have normal working hours (50-60h)

[frosty ginkgo]

damn ok

@little fiber ru at JS rn

[little fiber]

For IB there’s also a lot of interpersonal stress (micromanaging + pressure to network to advance your career)

Nah

[frosty ginkgo]

what u using ocaml for

[little fiber]

im making an interpreter for a language based off of ocaml

for my functional programming class

[frosty ginkgo]

ooo nice

[obtuse spruce]

whats the appeal for ib?

[round osprey]

What the fuck even is an IB

What do they even do

[little fiber]

it pays well and people have familial connections to help them advance

so the shitty part isn't as shitty

IB = investment banking

@ yum

they facilitate certain deals, such as mergers and acquisitions

[charred roost]

damn i really thought yall were talking about IB as in the IB program

[little fiber]

typically for companies on wall street

[lunar dagger]

bruh someone forced me to try vscode

this shit is so sick wtf

I've been using jetbrains ides

and I think I like vscode more

I'm torn

[obtuse spruce]

lmao vscode has bare extensions

[charred roost]

You can use both lol

I like VSCode for messing around with python and making quick scripts

[obtuse spruce]

I use it for webdev mainly

[charred roost]

Yeah same

[lunar dagger]

ok if I'm gonna be completely honest

I like vscode solely bc it looks prettier than jetbrains ides

[charred roost]

I use IntelliJ and Android Studio for my Kotlin/Java and Android projects

[charred roost]

lmfao

[lunar dagger]

like you gotta admit

it's pretty asf

[charred roost]

just get some intellij themes

[spice fractal]

isnt vscode dope tho

[obtuse spruce]

Shitton of themes

[spice fractal]

what's wrong with it lmao

[charred roost]

Ye its nice

[charred roost]

It be electron based

[spice fractal]

uh

[charred roost]

Just means its really just a web app running as a native app lol

[lunar dagger]

also why do u guys use vscode for web dev

[spice fractal]

oh what the fuk really lmao

[lunar dagger]

what makes vscode better than webstorm?

[charred roost]

yeah lol

But

to Microsoft's credit

They've done a lot to optimize it

[charred roost]

Does Webstorm use a lot of ram?

[lunar dagger]

probably

all jetbrainides are like

[charred roost]

My laptop's 16 gigs feels like nothing when using IntelliJ lol

[lunar dagger]

ram hogs

[charred roost]

yea

IntelliJ + Chrome = rip RAM

[obtuse spruce]

Lmao even with 16 gigs?

[lunar dagger]

honestly I've always felt fine

like rn I have like

[charred roost]

Yeah lol

Really been eyeing some 32/64 GB ram kits lmao

[thick ridge]

if u don't use gvim

[charred roost]

Just so that I can use more chrome tabs with Intellij

[thick ridge]

don't speak to me

[lunar dagger]

20 chrome tabs + webstorm + 2 vscode windows

and I'm at 10gb/16 usage

[obtuse spruce]

Damn I feel like 8gb ram is sti sufficient for me, though I'm not running crazy tasks

[charred roost]

rip

[obtuse spruce]

whats r y'alls wpms

[charred roost]

70ish?

Haven't measured in a while

[lunar crow]

Teams is the low key ram killer. Slack is so much more efficient from my experience

[lunar dagger]

wtf

on the new version of webstorm

[charred roost]

Yeah I saw that in the new intelliJ too

Haven't tried it out yet though

[dapper shard]

eh i agree

intellij takes up hella ram

and chromium doesn't help with that either

probably going to go for 32 gb of ram for my internship since i will be doing java and i imagine it will be in intellij for development

[charred roost]

intelliJ do be a nice IDE though

Got a powerful debugger too

Got any examples?

Genuinely curious

[lunar dagger]

I think refactoring is a lot better

And got integration is more robust

*git

[dry ibex]

has anyone interviewed with CDK global?

[green salmon]

no response to renege email

most likely blacklisted right

@dry ibex light interview process

[charred roost]

i mean ford didn't even acknowledge my renege until I emailed them again

They kept sending me onboarding material and were like "Pls confirm address to send laptop to"

[night surge]

give them an address its not a car but ill take the laptop

[abstract tiger]

Guys, I m going to graduate in this December. I didn't have any internship. How can I make my full time job hunt successful? Can I start to apply from now?

[lunar dagger]

idk when ft jobs are open, but you could look at small startups to pad ur resume

Having some experience >>>>>> no experience

[abstract tiger]

I'm on f1 visa. That's why

[gilded agate]

alrighty its dawn of the final day for me, if I get a denial from this internship im pretty sure ill have to admit defeat

[restive falcon]

https://startupfair.com/ this seems interesting

[noble sand]

mercedes is in person with no relocation stipend rip

pay is low too

[charred roost]

how much are they paying?

$30/hr?

[noble sand]

20

[charred roost]

bruh

[noble sand]

rip

[charred roost]

They really paying $20/hr for a position in Sunnyvale?

Scammed

[noble sand]

they said i can work longer than 12 weeks if I want tho

[charred roost]

Ford paid that much for a position in Michigan which I could understand

But 20/hr for Sunnyvale ain't much

[charred roost]

Oh nice

[noble sand]

and interview process is “3 rounds”
1 behavioral
1 OA
OA review with 2 engineers

[charred roost]

I see

[noble sand]

so really 2

[charred roost]

Not bad

[noble sand]

so hopefully oracle goes well tm

i’d rather have summer OCI anyways

plus oracle’s return rate is pretty high

[obtuse pivot]

are most interviews an online assesment then one with a person

[charred roost]

[charred roost]

Yeah lol, I was expecting atleast $30

Especially since they're in the Bay

[runic tinsel]

is it fair to claim ive had harder interview questions than others or am i playing the victim card here?

about 70% of my limited opportunities this time have been leetcode hards

Even my tesla OA for example was harder than what others have got

[charred roost]

I think it's fair to say that you just got unlucky with interview questions

Interview questions are all just RNG so it's not like they were targeting you specifically

[runic tinsel]

I mean how do you know that they weren't intentionally asking me tougher questions though

[mint cipher]

why would they do that?

[runic tinsel]

The worst fucking part is im sure i was held at a higher bar than other interns at fb too

[runic tinsel]

Do you not think a lot of people in this industry are toxic? Maybe their manager put them on PIP, maybe they missed the DOGE train, maybe they were dumped by someone and needed to remove their anger on someone else? Like think about it. I'm kinda sad and unhappy about the way things have turned out for me at this moment. I could just ask a leetcode hard out of anger right

[lunar dagger]

Maybe, but I doubt most of your interviewers are out to get you or are trying to make your interview experience horrible

Honestly it can be just dumb luck

The interview process is really hard and super competitive

You gotta take things with a grain of salt and move on

It's tough man, but you can do it

[charred roost]

That would be plain discrimination, companies aren't out to discriminate potential hires

And I agree with what babib is saying above

It can honestly just be dumb luck

CS is a super competitive field so things like this can happen

[frosty ginkgo]

are you sure they're lc hards or just hard for u

if not that then rng

[runic tinsel]

lc tagged hards

I hope so. I hope I get a phone screen with tesla after the OA (altho that seems unlikely because recruiter mentioned she'd get back early this week) and I also have a PM intern interview with a small startup, which I seriously hope works out because I wanna become a PM now anyways. I'm kinda done with SWE tbh

[silk ridge]

im definitely not the person to ask but is it possible that masters students are asked harder questions? i know some companies pay them more

[runic tinsel]

Sorry to be ranting so much on here and being negative and all but it's just been a wild ride

@silk ridge maybe, but idk man MS classes aren't that much harder also. Plus most MS programs have some undergrad upper divs as part of their curriculum anyways so I'd be shocked if that was the case

[silk ridge]

true thats the only thing other than luck that i can think of tho sounds like you had some bad luck then, i think i had 2 hards out of 8 or so big companies

[charred roost]

Don't worry about it, the internship grind is tough man

[craggy shuttle]

No they dont jusde MS students this way

if u arent applying for some experienced position

[charred roost]

for that Tesla phone though

[craggy shuttle]

Try to fast track ur Tesla application, by telling the recruiter u have an offer ?

My process was very quick

[charred roost]

Damn

I've just been ghosted by Tesla for all my apps though

But then again, for most of those apps, my resume was complete garbage

[runic tinsel]

@charred roost I did the OA

Last week

[charred roost]

Oh

they could just be slow

[craggy shuttle]

I got the phone as soon as i did my OA

[charred roost]

Took like two weeks for Glassdoor to even respond to me after my takehome

[charred roost]

Damn

[craggy shuttle]

and i got 90-92% as far as i rem

[charred roost]

They must've really liked your resume/OA results

[craggy shuttle]

because i told them i had a deadline

[charred roost]

o

[craggy shuttle]

lmao idk man

i failed for spring co-op 😛

[charred roost]

I was just about to ask lol

Are you interning with them this summer

But it seems like you've moved on to Jane Street

[craggy shuttle]

Naah salesforce

[charred roost]

Ooh nice

[runic tinsel]

I didn't have test cases in mine. Plus mine was LRU cache on steroids, like a much harder version of LRU

[craggy shuttle]

i want jane street

[charred roost]

Salesforce is dope

Salesforce wlb is great iirc

Pretty chill place to work

[craggy shuttle]

I applied to js for fall with salesforce and amazon on my resume but still a reject

[craggy shuttle]

Yeah

I will try for js for fte

[charred roost]

[charred roost]

[craggy shuttle]

LRU cache isn't too difficult but i could be wrong, hopefully u hear back man

[little fiber]

I don't think JS cares about ocaml

[craggy shuttle]

Noooo

but just applying

to get the interview

but they rejeected me

maybe they hire from top schools idk

[little fiber]

does anyone from your school work there?

[craggy shuttle]

noo

sadly

[little fiber]

big rip

[craggy shuttle]

can't even ask for referral from anyone 😛

can anyone refer me from this discord ?

[little fiber]

only two people got an offer from them on this disc

in the last cycle (for new grad)

maybe you could ask them

btw are you gunning for trading or SWE

or either

[craggy shuttle]

I love trading but don't know how i m gonna do the mental maths test and brainteaser so will like to go with algorthimic position or swe

[little fiber]

if you've taken a probability course, the brainteasers are not that bad tbh

well it may be a different story at JS but the ones at akuna weren't bad

they're 90% combinatorics or probability based

mental math is a different story though

[craggy shuttle]

I havent done those test even nce

but mental math like 10 mins and u need to o the stuff without using calc i cannot

i got quant trader for imc and akuna

failed both

[inland bloom]

theres websites where you can practice this

and get better

[craggy shuttle]

umm interesting

[little fiber]

zetamac

tradertest

[frosty ginkgo]

JS is a biggie on just knowing ur fundamentals and teaching u the rest later on

at least when i read the blogs they said that

[craggy shuttle]

YEAH I HAD HEARD THEY GRILL ON OS

OPERATING SYSTEMS

[frosty ginkgo]

oh shit rly

[little fiber]

ocaml is better than other functional programming languages anyway

it's okay

[craggy shuttle]

even de shaw

[little fiber]

OS is really important for these firms

[frosty ginkgo]

bro id be lucky to even get oa's from them in 2-3 years imao

[craggy shuttle]

yeahhh i mean it's intresting as well

[little fiber]

because if their hardware is even milliseconds behind others, then they're losing out on trades

[craggy shuttle]

yeahhh

[frosty ginkgo]

only thing ik abt OS is windows 10, apple, and linux

[craggy shuttle]

do we have any specific discord channel for quant/hedgefunds ?

[frosty ginkgo]

please dm me if u find one lol

[little fiber]

yeah there's a quant channel here

but I don't think there's a server for quant

[craggy shuttle]

Lol sure 😛

[little fiber]

same here @ dm me if you find one

[frosty ginkgo]

closest u can get are prolly the competitive math/programming discords lol

[craggy shuttle]

competitive programming, bro i still can't do lc hards :((((((

[little fiber]

Trading tempts me

just so that I don't have to do the LC hards

I'll take probability brainteasers any day

[craggy shuttle]

wish i was like u :)))

did u interviewed at any of these companies for this season ?

hrt ?

[little fiber]

Just akuna, because they're the only firm that (I thought) would interview a sophomore

[craggy shuttle]

damn crazy man, i just passed 1 of their quant c++/python OA and they rejected me 😛

[little fiber]

I got to the 2nd to last round of interviews, then faltered

[craggy shuttle]

still a good experience

[little fiber]

Yeah definitely

[frosty ginkgo]

akuna interviews sophomores 👀

[craggy shuttle]

he must be a dope 🙂

[frosty ginkgo]

fr

[charred roost]

damn

i got the akuna oa but then got ghosted

[little fiber]

I wish I had known that the interview would be as technical as it was, otherwise I think I would've passed

[charred roost]

wasn't even for SWE, was for IT Infra lmao

[little fiber]

because I checked all my answers with my roommate and I think I got them

[frosty ginkgo]

meanwhile vinodh here getting interviewed by more quant firms than wungus's gf count

[charred roost]

bruh its purely just bc of school name

[little fiber]

Well keep in mind, I interviewed for trading-options which might be easier

[charred roost]

i have no skills applicable to quant lol

[frosty ginkgo]

all they want is lc hard in 5 min

[little fiber]

[frosty ginkgo]

easier said than done

[charred roost]

facts

i can't even do LC easys 🙂

[little fiber]

yeah I still can't do the DP easies lmao

[frosty ginkgo]

whats DP easies

like fibbonaci level?

[little fiber]

dynamic programming

err

[frosty ginkgo]

yea ik that

[little fiber]

sorry i thought you meant something else

yeah I think fibonacci

whatever the steps question is

also, buying and selling stock

[frosty ginkgo]

thats dp?

[little fiber]

yes

[charred roost]

best time to buy and sell stock is dp?

damn

[frosty ginkgo]

or am i thinking of the other one

[frosty ginkgo]

yea that one

[charred roost]

I know theres multiple levels of that question

[frosty ginkgo]

i got the solution by accident

[charred roost]

I can do the very basic one

[charred roost]

I didn't even get the solution

I was just lucky that I remembered it when I saw it in an interview lmao

[frosty ginkgo]

niceee

[lunar dagger]

I just got final round beh for a YC startup wtf

[charred roost]

Pog

[lunar dagger]

Imma ask if they'd do fall

Bro to all of you guys still looking for internships, stay on that grind

Places are still recruiting

honestly idek where I applied

I don't even remember applying

but they gave me an interview a week and a half ago

and then they emailed me with congrats for making it to the final interview

[silk ridge]

maybe they applied for you

[lunar dagger]

also another startup just reached out

wtf

I literally had 0 offers/leads like

2 days ago

what makes a startup a unicorn

[silk ridge]

over 1 billion valuation

[turbid river]

and privately owned

[lunar dagger]

the one that just reached out got 10 mil from point72

but I can't find their evaluation

[turbid river]

If they only got 10 mil in a round of funding then they are almost certainly not a unicorn

[lunar dagger]

is that low for a startup? I'm not super familiar with startup evaluations

[turbid river]

Yeah it's not a ton

Point72 also focuses a lot on early/seed stage funding which none of are unicorns

[lunar dagger]

oh rip lmao

[craggy shuttle]

yeah kadane algo 🙂

[unborn storm]

(posted before wrong channel), anyone heard of Brain Technologies? I've got an offer for summer. Just wondering if anyone has some experience with them.

[whole kettle]

or the robber one

[steep dust]

Anyone have experience with moving summer offers to fall/winter with Big Tech?

[runic tinsel]

recruiter mentioned id hear back about potential next steps early this week. But it's almost end of week. Should I ping here or it's too soon?

[torpid hemlock]

Did anyone get return offers from Amazon’s spring internships? Wondering if it’s possible to extend the deadline since they only gave me til end of May to decide

[torpid hemlock]

@abstract wagon nope…. Just farming for tableau new grad now

Ik

I think they got full so early

It sucks that they never even sent a reject letter tho

I went up to my portal the other day and I’m apparently still under consideration

Imagine being both being considered for intern and new grad come august smh

Lmao u bet I’m gonna try

It’s revenge time

[lunar dagger]

guys for a hireright background check

I don't put unpaid stuff, right?

Do I put like

volunteer research positions?

also for other names

do I also list like the preferred name my boss knows me by

If it's different than my legal first name?

Or do I only list my legal name that HR knows me by

[obtuse spruce]

Nah only put paid positions that are official

[obtuse spruce]

Legal always i don't see why you'd put anything different?

[lunar dagger]

ok bet

thanks guys

[remote geyser]

Does hireright cross reference your resume?

[lunar dagger]

No idea lmao

I ended up putting everything but my research project

including like high school employment

[remote geyser]

do they ask you to put everything?

[lunar dagger]

yeah

there was just a persistent checkbox at the end that said like

I certify I don't have any other employment

that i clicked once I had everything on there

[amber lark]

lmao i hate these background check companies, all they do is just a call center

[green salmon]

Would u rather take a summer start date for a 12 week internship

On June 21st or May 24

[split fractal]

May 24

[green salmon]

Damm

Gotcha

[runic tinsel]

Does Tesla ghost candidates?

I haven't heard back after my OA 😦

Been over a week now

[split fractal]

as said in another channel I believe their recruiting is just disorganized

[green salmon]

Sbould you ask for extra money

If they making u go into the office

Standard rate is pretty good like 41

[jagged hare]

Has anyone interviewed with Sleep Number for Cloud Engineering intern position?

[formal finch]

Do you think it’s rude to ask my recruiter to delay my start date by a week?

Right before start date?

[charred roost]

do you start on Monday lol?

[formal finch]

I feel burned out and would like to rest for a bit

Yea

[charred roost]

o

[charred roost]

Yeah I think it should be fine

Like when I had my Pax offer, they let me push the start date back 1 week

just so that I could recuperate after finals

but that was months ago

I think as long as you're respectful in your email, they should be understanding

[formal finch]

I’m just gonna deal with it tbh

Someone on the team told me that the first week is easy

[charred roost]

Yeah usually the first week is training and onboarding anyways

so you should be able to relax a lil

[formal finch]

for sure

I just want to spend some time with the fam and friends before ghosting for everyone

[charred roost]

Understandable

[turbid river]

lol damn they still hiring for that position

it used to pop up on my linkedin job alerts like every day back in february

[jagged hare]

Yeah i got an email today to schedule an interview

Did you interview with them? @turbid river

[turbid river]

nah they never responded to me

[green salmon]

Anyone ever had to do a software design intevriew

?

For an internship

[gilded agate]

Man I'm still waiting to see if I get this internship, I really hope I do but there taking forever to decide

[lunar dagger]

[whole kettle]

I already signed my offer, my recruiter told me my manager would be in contact sometime last week, I emailed the recruiter Thursday bc i hadn't heard anything and she said don't worry, my manager will be in contact soon. But she never did 😦

I know I already signed the offer, but being remote I just don't want to be forgotten about lol. You guys think ill be fine? I don't want to bug my recruiter but yknow anxiety

[thick shore]

i would follow up on Tuesday

the recruiter may have told the manager but manager might have forgotten etc

just a “Hey haven’t heard from manager yet” email is fine

[whole kettle]

ok sounds good, thank you 👍

[charred roost]

Yeah you should be fine, I had to wait like 2 weeks between signing my offer and starting the onboarding process

[whole kettle]

It’s been like over a month since I signed it so there’s been a lot of time in between. But I don’t start til June 1st so there’s still time. Just a little spooked since she told me I’d speak to my the manager last week

[charred roost]

Ah I see. Then yeah I'd just follow what Joey said and just email them again

[viral fable]

i don’t see the winter channel anymore but jw when are start dates for winter typically?

[real hollow]

First Monday of Jan to the last Friday of April

Something like that

Thats the outer bound

[green salmon]

Does a background check

Full align with ur resume

Fully

[night surge]

wdym

[green salmon]

I think maybe have been off with my internship dates

By a month

[night surge]

oh dw about that

any inconsistency theyll ask

so did you claim one month more than you worked or everything was shifted?

[green salmon]

Na I did may to September

But exactly it might have been

May to august

[night surge]

thats fine

more important part is if you worked there

as an intern

[green salmon]

Yessir brother

[bronze echo]

is internship unpaid at small company worth

[thick ridge]

if u got nothing else

it doesn't really hurt

[bronze echo]

i see

what are peoples opinions on like

intellectual property rights on code you write

if it’s a small company and you’re one of 4 people and they’re not paying u

[thick ridge]

does it really matter

its resume meat primarily

if you're a freshman it'll be better than just tinkering on projects

[lunar dagger]

Honestly I'd only take on an unpaid internship if you're actually gonna learn something

Like if it's one of those "startups" where it's like 1 dude with no CS experience expecting an intern to build their whole platform for "experience"

Stay far, far away from that stuff

If it's like a small team where you'll have a legitimate mentor who can help you learn something, then as long as there's no red flags, go for it

Assuming you don't have a better option

I interviewed at one of those places through angel list

And I asked who I would be working under

And he's like other interns

Like it's just us

So I just dipped lmao

Yeah, if it's just you on ur own it's kinda tough

And you're not learning as much as if you had someone guide you

imo

Like if you wanted to do a project on your own, why not just do one on your own

Yeah

My 3 biggest things to look for in an internship is like career impact, pay, and mentorship/growth

Like if you're working at an unpaid startup with none of those things

Like what's the point lmao

Oh that's a completely different situation imo

My school as a few of those

Like an accelerator for student-led startups

Honestly that's pretty good

Oh big oof

[stray spoke]

I think it’s to just have it as resume padding

[lunar dagger]

That's fair

idk I just don't like unpaid internships where it feels like I'm not really getting anything out of it

But yeah I guess that's a very valid point

[stray spoke]

Earlier grad date isn’t good if you don’t have a good job lined up

But I’m not sure how HRs look at small startup internships

I assume it’s all the same

[hexed wave]

you can save thousands of dollars by graduating early tho

[stray spoke]

Ehh graduate one year early with 100k job vs normal grad date with 150k job

Thousands of dollars is irrelevant for SWEs

You’re gonna make much more down the line

[hexed wave]

I mean you can eventually work you way up to the 150k job in a year or two?

[stray spoke]

You say you could save thousands of dollars, but the increase in salary but getting a better internship/job is more than worth it

Plus your college life is gonna be full of studying if you take 3 years

Assuming you’re not a study god

[hexed wave]

But what happens if you don’t get a better internship

You’re just gonna delay graduation again?

[stray spoke]

Taking 4 years isn’t delaying graduation

Also delaying graduation may be beneficial

[stray spoke]

Taking an extra year gives you a higher chance of getting a good internship

And Amazon is attainable for everyone

[hexed wave]

Well idk about you guys. But my parents will smack the black off of me wasting their money by taking bs classes to delay graduation

Amazon is attainable for everyone but everyone doesn’t get amazon

[crimson brook]

Heck my parents don't even want me taking a semester off to intern they want me earning full time$ ASAP

[stray spoke]

4 years is graduating in a normal period lol

3 years is not the norm

Also you gotta look long term

Of course you can’t change people’s mind sometimes

[hexed wave]

Well I’m prob the exception but for my hs 3 years is the norm

[hexed wave]

Facts

[stray spoke]

That’s unhealthy if it’s a good internship

[stray spoke]

I believe for STEM the average is longer than 4 years

Depends on your major a lot

[hexed wave]

Yeah I know but my hs makes everyone graduate with an associates degree. So it’s pretty easy to graduate in 3 even as a stem major

[night surge]

Bard?

[hexed wave]

Bruh how you guess everything correctly lmfao

[night surge]

[hexed wave]

I’m scared now

[stray spoke]

He knows

[hexed wave]

I’m pretty sure most parents don’t want their child taking gap semesters. From what I’ve seen at least

[night surge]

Yeah if they understood what coop is they’d be down

[stray spoke]

If you say “father, I’ll work for Apple if I do this internship”

[night surge]

I show them levels.fyi

[stray spoke]

Pretty sure he’ll budge

[night surge]

And they understand

Plus I’m not even asking for graduate school

That’s out the window

[stray spoke]

Honestly it’s best for you to take a light course load and focus on interview prep

College status is valuable

Internship interviews are way easier than full time interviews

[hexed wave]

That’s a different story. I meant you need to have an extremely good reason

I definitely see your point tho

[stray spoke]

Gotta grind for a good reason lol

But yeah don’t get too fixated on graduating early

[night surge]

It’s a risk you should take

[stray spoke]

Also focus on interview prep

[night surge]

Wait but aren’t u almost done

Ur a junior?

[hexed wave]

I agree

Yeah I’m a junior lmao

[frosty ginkgo]

exactly what imma do lol

[hexed wave]

I’m prob gonna go to grad school anyway tho. In that case it would make perfect sense to graduate early

[night surge]

Not really?

That’s even more time

Bc you’d still take a lot of credits

My school forces 18+ almost every semester

Until senior year

But whtvr

[frosty ginkgo]

bruh thats a lot

[hexed wave]

Lmao but a bs + masters in 5 years instead of 6

[frosty ginkgo]

is this northeastern?

@night surge

[hexed wave]

Wtf

[night surge]

Uh we do 5

Or 4

[frosty ginkgo]

or 3

[night surge]

No I don’t go there

I should’ve

[frosty ginkgo]

where do u go

[hexed wave]

Northeastern is too expensive tho

[frosty ginkgo]

all the schools ik that overload like that have like co op built in

[night surge]

Yeah that’s why