2021_summer

[sinful tinsel]

What’s the most referrals u see someone use in one recruiting season?

[rough copper]

https://wd1.myworkdaysite.com/en-US/recruiting/snapchat/snap/job/Los-Angeles-California/Software-Engineer-Intern_R0018247?source=Job%2BBoard%2B-%2BLinkedIn

Snap opened up again lol

Hoping it's for 2021 LOL and not 2022

[terse torrent]

Can I apply to it with my summer 2021 internship on it 🤡

[signal veldt]

Wait what no way its opening this late for 2021

[fallow shuttle]

They're still hiring fall 2021 so probably that

[grave crown]

Anyone had experience on doing interviews while interning at your current company?

Like it takes 2 hours in the middle of a day, should I just ghost my colleagues?

Please share any opinions you might have, much appreciated!

[tulip jay]

say your wifi will be down for electricity work, pulled that last year and worked smooothh

[grave crown]

That's juts genius, thanks boss

[thin stag]

anyone got experience with docusign android intern technical round?

[grave crown]

Still open for other suggestions, electric work can only work one or 2 times right?

[thin stag]

should i be focusing on studying android question or more data structures and algorithms?

[night surge]

Nah always works

Jus make sure you keep the same energy

Otherwise ur moving sus

Bc it actually happened once

And I shat bricks

[grave crown]

Thanks man, but do you mean after 5pm? Interviewers don't get mad?😂

[night surge]

tyronn lue ur a coach you know when ur players miss practice

[balmy blade]

chicago way cheaper

than sf

[grave crown]

PDT, west coast

[night surge]

Yeah ppl get off work around then so it’s though

[steady obsidian]

should I have talked to my manager by now if my start date is in a month?

[grave crown]

true

[steady obsidian]

about what the project is about etc.

[night surge]

If ur in time same time zone that won’t work

Only if ur ahead

[grave crown]

yeah me and the team both west coast, interviewing after work not so possible

[night surge]

Sorry I couldn’t get ur message seems like ur internet has issues

[grave crown]

great coaching

[night surge]

Thanks coach

[grave crown]

ok I have one internet break down and one electric work booked

plus lunch time

[tulip jay]

😂

[grave crown]

doesn't look so bad right? if it's back to back interviews then I can use internet/electric strat plus lunch time

niiice bro, I'll use this line, makes the story so real

[tulip jay]

oops i tried reacting and it deleted

but yea just say sum like that and itll sound legit

[grave crown]

thanks man, I recited that already

[thin stag]

is it fine to email a recruiter and asked them if the technical interview will be focused more on android concepts or data structure concepts?

[thick shore]

yup just frame it as u want to best prepare urself for the interview and u wanted to know what the interview will consist of

[runic tinsel]

if a job poosting has kubernetes/aws as a requirement but you don't have experience with it, would it be an auuto ding?

[thick shore]

u should apply to anything if its an internship role!

unless its some masters/grad level internship, all is fair game

[rotund mica]

for people in austin,tx, how are yall finding rooms? is extended stay any good? or should i try to find something near the university

[grand tiger]

Guys, do your school require you to register for an internship course for the summer?

If yes, how long would it take from the date you apply for it till the date it appears on your Canvas page?

I submitted mine back in April 5th and I still have not seen any changes yet so I am a bit nervous

[odd kraken]

it'll depend a lot on your school i think

[weak fjord]

Is there any place still hiring for summer?

My previous internship offer is likely going to cancel

[glossy vapor]

a lot

look on linkedin, indeed

pocket gems, wepay

intel

[weak fjord]

Hmm, I will check it out

Thanks

[signal veldt]

may i ask what might have caused it?

[weak fjord]

They just realized I'm in a different timezone

[sweet pollen]

Oh no I’m fucked

We require proof of self-employment (Tax Documents or any proof which proves your self-employment) to proceed.

I got this from my background check

The problem is, I never incorporated the startup I had

And it didn’t get to the point where I made money

So I don’t have those documents

Awesome, now I’ll graduate without an internship

[steady obsidian]

there has to be a way to circumvent that

[grave crown]

I would clarify those with the recruiter, he/she is the one to say whether you passed the check

I don’t think recruiters would cancel your offer for that small issue

[night surge]

Yeah bring it up

[austere quarry]

^^

i think its a non-issue

just explain it to the recruiter like luu said

[sinful tusk]

i had a similar issue. can u contact the place u worked at to make a letter documenting ur job and how long u worked?

[sinful tusk]

if they pass up on u now, they will have a hard time replacing u for the summer. They wont rescind

[runic tinsel]

how did you portray this on your resume?

as long as it didnt sound like you're a startup founder you'll be fine

[sly egret]

why? if you say you founded the startup then i think it's fine bc they'll know that you're the one that owns it

[runic tinsel]

basically what i meant to say was, if the resume implies some monetary gain then yeah they might force you to show proof of that

like if you say "founded X company and generated $yy revenue" then you have to prove that

[amber lark]

Get into contact with your recruiter asap, mention that you didn't incorporate your startup. You could ask if there's other documents you can submit

[craggy cairn]

@ruby crescent hi

[opaque bloom]

yall still think its possible to get an internship for this summer? 😂

[charred roost]

yeah it definitely is

companies always hiring

big tech is pretty much done hiring but smaller companies and startups will still have openings

[noble sand]

i know zoom had openings recently

and some startups on linkedin

last year i was a freshman with a faang and i currently have nothing for this summer so i’m still extremely hopeful😭

[charred roost]

I think I saw salesforce open some apps up too

For summer 2021

sorry not Salesforce

ServiceNow

[noble sand]

has anyone applied to CodePath SITE? by any chance

[charred roost]

I started the application for it but forgot to finish it 🤡

[noble sand]

i turned in the prework weeks late bc i was exposed to covid on campus so i had to quarantine for a few weeks😭

this recruiting season has been hell 🙁

[charred roost]

ooof

Hope you're feeling a lot better now

[noble sand]

big oof

tyty

[terse torrent]

Wtf

Can I ask what do u think happened

I would have thought faang would mean future baller

[formal finch]

Amazon?

[noble sand]

google

[noble sand]

depression🙈

[charred roost]

STEP?

[noble sand]

yeah

[charred roost]

Nice

[noble sand]

i got interviews this year too i just wasnt even close to being in the mental state to prepare for any of them😭

[charred roost]

Rip

Yeah I was equally unprepared towards the start of the year

I bombed my Amazon OA around New Years so I started 2021 with a rejection from Bezos lmao

And then it went quickly downhill from there until I joined this server

[terse torrent]

Awww that sucks man

depression hits hard

U can still find something if u put ur mind to it i believe

[noble sand]

i bombed amazon, microsoft, bloomberg, robinhood, AND oracle😭

[terse torrent]

If not just take a break

[noble sand]

but now im working harder than ever so its okay🥲

[terse torrent]

Rip :(

Rejections keep me going

More than anything

[charred roost]

Hope you find something soon my dude

[noble sand]

thank yall

[terse torrent]

Grind will pay off

[charred roost]

Honestly, this server is also pretty great for motivation lol

[terse torrent]

Ya

[charred roost]

Ppl here are usually pretty nice and love to see each other succeed

[terse torrent]

I actually can't recall anyone flexing here

[noble sand]

i forgot i had joined a while back tbh im glad i checked today

[charred roost]

Yeah I don't think anyone really flexes

Like sure they'll show off offers from big companies

[terse torrent]

Prob cuz the T5 school kids r too busy flexing w their friends

[charred roost]

But they'll never rub it in other ppl's faces

[charred roost]

Lmfao

[terse torrent]

Yeye

Wholesome

Actually very helpful lmao

[charred roost]

Yeah it really is lol

[arctic basalt]

Has anyone requested time off during a summer internship before?

[charred roost]

Oh bruh thanks for reminding me

I'm in a really similar situation lol

Going on a vacation around July 4th too

I don't think they'll revoke your offer

You'll just not get paid for those days I think

Since interns are hourly employees

You could try emailing your hiring manager/recruiter

Oh rip

[velvet badge]

Is this a small company or big company

If it’s a big company it doesn’t matter most of the time

With small companies it varies

[final hawk]

Ah I have before because I had a scholarship interview in DC (interning in Seattle)

Kinda I did some work while I was at the airport

[shrewd karma]

is this for Salesforce?

[amber lark]

yep, usually whichever HR person who contacted you about it can also work

[sweet pollen]

Yes

😔

I was really looking forward to the internship

I hope contacting HR helps 😔

[shrewd karma]

should be fine, if this is for somethin like work auth.

[velvet badge]

Should be fine, just let your manager know

Now and 2 weeks beforehand as a reminder

[lunar dagger]

bruh y'all ever email to expedite then get left on read

[terse torrent]

U ever negotiate for salary then get left on read

[charred roost]

Y'all ever just get left on read

[ionic fog]

bruh

is that for real

IMC is recruiting for Summer 2022

bruhhhh

[charred roost]

Yep

[frosty ginkgo]

gotta sharpen those pickup lines on tinder

[ionic fog]

bruh

this industry

i stg

[charred roost]

lol

[charred roost]

facts

[bronze echo]

Hi. Freshman in CS at T15. 2 semesters of C++. Basic data structures and just got to BST and lists. I am interested in second language aquisition, NLP, and computational linguistics. Are there any relevant internships/work experience still available?

I made fatal mistake by waiting too long but I want to get off my butt and try things out.

Linkedin seemed to have positions many places but require PhD standing for relevant work in the topics ive mentioned

[amber lark]

try not to overthink it, it'll be fine. as long as you can contact the HR/recruiter and explain everything, then they will help you out. You should probably call them if you can

[still gazelle]

help out a prof for research this summer. that aligns with ur interests

[abstract wagon]

try emailing startups

also i think ycombinatr has a resource

https://www.workatastartup.com/internships

[weak fjord]

Most of them just ghost in my experience

[weak fjord]

Where do you get this information from?

[charred roost]

I just applied to it lol

[lone coyote]

@charred roost For summer?

[fair yew]

Intel phone interview. What to expect guys ?

[charred roost]

Yeah

[lone coyote]

@charred roost you gonna reneg ford and glassdoor too?

lmaoo

[charred roost]

Lmao

Just applied for kicks

[bronze sandal]

i would aim for swe for now -- your intuition is right that most places that offer research/ML internships look almost exclusively for grad students

[bronze echo]

how to find startups?

[bronze echo]

gotcha. thank you

[bronze echo]

ok cool. emailed some ppl

[charred roost]

AngelList is a good place to look

[abstract wagon]

https://www.workatastartup.com/internships

[bronze echo]

thank you both.

[lunar dagger]

Wtf I applied to place last night at like 2am

And got a call from a recruiter just now

They saw I did something with aws and were asking me about my AWS experience

And I was just like uhhh i never did any work directly with aws I just have a bit of exposure to it

And the recruiter was just like rip

[remote geyser]

what place?

[runic tinsel]

LOL I have FAANG intern experience and have nothing for this summer too. Fuck all those who say we're "set for life"

[turbid river]

was your response rate any good?

[steady obsidian]

Folks, how do I stop measuring my dick with others?

not literally...

[night surge]

Don’t look at it

[terse torrent]

WTF

How job

[abstract wagon]

has anyone here interviewed with waymo b4

[green salmon]

Anyone review for cloudflare security engineer position

[bronze sandal]

hey guys, has anyone dome adobe before and know if they might be docking my pay if my place of living is outside the bay area?

[charred roost]

If it's a remote position I don't think they'll dock your pay

You'll just be paying California taxes rather than your own state's taxes

[glossy vapor]

If anyones looking for a summer internship still, apply to Equinix

Just got hit up by a recruiter

[bronze sandal]

has anyone done adobe from out of state before

[obtuse otter]

@noble sand @runic tinsel genuinely curious how does that happen

like surely you got interviews?

did u just not LC...?

[still gazelle]

probably poor LC skills

and limited applications

just because ur got into faang doesnt mean u cant apply to companies worse than faang

[ancient flower]

which faang?

[frosty ginkgo]

Coke is just chad

How'd ur mars landing go at nasa?

[bronze sandal]

did people who worked in seattle remotely to the bay get pay docked?

for any company, doesn't have to be adobe

[runic tinsel]

It's wrong to asssume it's only leetcoding because I know tons of people who've gotten offers even though they cant solve a harder medium.

[runic tinsel]

I at least have only h eard back from 1 company that's "below" FAANG

[low epoch]

I never applied to the underclassman faang/big n apps but maybe those interview processes are just easier

Also don’t mean to trash on OP’s skills, just tryna find objective explanation lol because faang is supposed to be good for resume

What’s the amazon underclassman one, propel, leap, glide, yeet, etc

I dont even know

Ur only screwed if you’re punching above a certain class of company lol

Half the F500 will take you

Then again they might actually see big name on resume and assume ur overqualified

No cap i can see that happening

I mean the low n mid tier companies

[silk ridge]

this mustve been why i didnt get a jane street interview

[charred roost]

Oh yeah rejections due to overqualification really is a thing

Big sad

[lavish hatch]

how would you guys move an internship to fall when you already signed the offer letter? pls help

[low epoch]

I mean yeah imagine ur at big boy berkeley and apply to raisin canes. Theyre rejecting ur reneging ass

[charred roost]

I just wanted free chicken

I miss raising caines

Loved that shit when I was at ASU

But UIUC don't have one on campus 😠

[green salmon]

Would internships reject u

If u have decent precious internship experience

Or that's not a thing

[night surge]

it shouldnt

its places more trust into your application

[still gazelle]

just because they can get an offer without being able to solve a medium doesnt mean that u can

sometimes ur just unlucky and get only meds/hards on ur interview

[night surge]

they're really just trying to objectively explain right

[still gazelle]

if youre getting past resume screen and failing, its def a matter of interviewing skills

whether it be behavioral skills or technical skills

[low epoch]

that is a healthy mindset to have insofar as it motivates u to keep grinding lc
but bear in mind you can pass resume screen, ace technical (and behavioral i suppose but that's hard to define), and now you're being compared to other candidates who did the same

in which case rng strikes again

so just be honest with yourself on if you can improve

[still gazelle]

everyone knows the process is rng

but there is no RNG in being able to solve an LC hard

[frosty ginkgo]

i remember a few freshman/soph programs doing this

yea dropbox launch said no prior internship exp in their requirements

[night surge]

Actually?

Oh right

I remember that one

[frosty ginkgo]

Requirements
Currently a second-year student in a Bachelor’s degree program
Pursuing a computer science (or similar) degree
You are 18 years or older by commencement of internship program (May 2021)
No prior software engineering experience or internships   
Programming experience in Python (or other object-oriented programming languages) 

[night surge]

I think the question was meant as a hidden barrier

Bc explicitly stating that is your fault for even applying and expecting any success

I think for big 4 accounting firm

[runic tinsel]

Yeah that's been my season in a nutshell. Mostly hards

[terse torrent]

why

[lunar dagger]

bruh I've just not been getting interviews

[lunar dagger]

I honestly forget what they're called

maneater or some shit lmao

mantech

[bronze echo]

I applied fora few companies but struggling to find ones that arent so gatekeepy with min requirements

Are companies super serious about min requirements or

Is it not that serious, like is there a chance I apply and get the position even if I'm way under reqs?

Additionally when should the LC grind commence

aq

[charred roost]

Right now

[sinful tusk]

Yes you can still apply and have a shot

[still gazelle]

apply to everything lmao

[frosty ginkgo]

out of the womb

[bronze echo]

Do u guys think I'm behind if my mom wasnt grinding LC while she was pregnant w me

[fresh wigeon]

has anyone negotiated equity for a part-time startup internship before?

[steady obsidian]

does anybody know how to calculate bi-weekly pay for cali lol

[charred roost]

I think there's a calculator for it online

[sweet pollen]

My recruiter ended up saying

:/ this doesn’t really help

It’s not clear that there’s anything I can do at this point

[ashen needle]

so summer 2022 grind when

[valid quarry]

Had Goldman Sachs final round for summer 2022 today

[steady obsidian]

what the fuck

[ashen needle]

lmao

[terse torrent]

I can't tell if that's a cap

[steady obsidian]

no

the best time to start was when you were in your mother's womb

it's too late now

(obviously joking, it's never too late unless you're dead)

[ashen needle]

prob gonna start when my semester ends

this year im pretty much zoning in on leetcode i think

[valid quarry]

It’s not lol

[ashen needle]

bro wtf

why

[terse torrent]

Bruh WTF

Why did i not start coding out of the womb

Or in my past life if i had one

[ashen needle]

is that actually for next summer or is it for this summer

[terse torrent]

Next summer prob

I think Morgan stanley already started

[ashen needle]

this is cracked

[terse torrent]

GS is direct competitor soo

I sometimes cannot with this industry

[valid quarry]

I dont want to spam with images but here you go.

[ashen needle]

this should be outlawed

[abstract wagon]

nah bro they def starting already

i had an interview with imc on tuesday

[ashen needle]

i figured theyd be starting- didnt think they be having final rounds lmao

[abstract wagon]

even my interviewer thought it was for 2021

[charred roost]

Lmfao

[thorn leaf]

LMAO

[low epoch]

bruh i'm dead i swear i will not apply to next summer

right now

out of principle but also because i will fail, applying concurrently with chads

[stray spoke]

Anybody did consumertrack OA? How hard is it?

[night surge]

wait

final rounds

[stray spoke]

You’re in consumertrack final?

[night surge]

no

im talking about GS

[stray spoke]

Ahh

[simple saffron]

@low epoch what up king

long time

[lone coyote]

does GS do fall

[night surge]

ppl just got hired for 2021 summer

and some are about to for 2022

[lone coyote]

lmao companies are still hiring for 2021 and people got it for 2022

[low epoch]

yo poggo

[simple saffron]

r u still beautiful

[low epoch]

yeah i'm still 6 ft handsome 10x intern

welcome to da club

[simple saffron]

as u should

[gaunt loom]

i don’t even have a summer 2021 internship and ppl already getting interviewed for 2022 🤢

[stray spoke]

Mood

[real hollow]

Doom

[quick gazelle]

anybody else interview with waybridge?

[runic tinsel]

Hiring is pretty much done right?

For summer 2021

[charred roost]

Nah companies are still hiring

[runic tinsel]

Which ones

[charred roost]

Lots of smaller ones

And then Intel

[runic tinsel]

Intel doesn’t sponsor

[charred roost]

Oh rip

[frail birch]

Wait wtf

summer 2022 started?

What about for new grad? Not yet right?

[charred roost]

For interns yeah

[charred roost]

i don't think so

[frail birch]

ok phew

i don't wanna worry about applying for new grad until after my summer internship lol

i mean i will LC this summer but yeah

[charred roost]

Lol yea

Would like some breathing room

[frosty ginkgo]

summer 2041 already started

u didnt hear abt the newborns doing lc hards in under 5 minutes?

[lunar dagger]

@runic tinsel nope

I'm still applying and getting responses

Just fiend linkedin

Like soooo hard

A lot of big non tech companies are opening up internships now, too

[gaunt loom]

what should u do if u dont have an internship now

(if ur not looking for tech internships – idk if anyone will have advice on this)

and waht companies are opening up internships

[frosty ginkgo]

hmm ur right

[glossy vapor]

fr? half of their employees are on h1b 😂

[lunar dagger]

Aska prof for research? Or s project

[gaunt loom]

yah still waiting to hear back from some profs :3

[lunar dagger]

You can also work on a project

Maybe learn some new skills

And out them on ur resume

[gaunt loom]

sounds delishus 😋

rising junior

but i only started taking cs classes this fall 🤕

[turbid river]

If anyone is still looking for summer I think Nutanix released a couple positions recently

they pay like 47/hr

[lunar dagger]

@ancient sentinel yeah

Check daily

You have to fiend tho

Out of like 100

I got 3 responses

Yeah just mass apply

[terse torrent]

Ducc pfp is a mood

[quick gazelle]

it depends I had one company respond to my app in 10 minutes and other in 2 weeks

[lunar dagger]

@ancient sentinel yeah it can take a while

So far all of my responses have been after 2-3 weeks

Minus one

Nope

Sophomore

You?

Ngl LinkedIn final as a sophomore

Kinda impressive

But still

Even getting an interview at a big tech company as a sophomore is hard

The fact that you made it to LinkedIn final says a lot

This shits tough, but you've got this

[gaunt loom]

do u have to write cover letters for the ones ur applying to? or is it jusr ur resume

[lunar dagger]

Honestly same

A month or two ago out of 300 apps I got intuit

And that was it

But I kept applying and now I'm in the pipeline for a few places that I'd be happy to work for

It really is

The only thing you can do is keep trying

And honestly if you keep at it you'll get somewhere

We're sophomores so even if we didn't get anything this year, we'd be chilling

Next year's the one that really counts

Thanks man!

You too

Keep at it and you'll get something I promise

[mint cipher]

you rarely need to write a cover letter

[pulsar ridge]

... wild pokemon

just like me

oh true, i have a good owner 🥺

nope

we chilling

[terse torrent]

Bruh sus

I'm a meow

I'm literally an innocent cat

@restive rampart hi monkey

[soft hound]

bruh so many loo mans

🐒

[terse torrent]

🐒

[pulsar ridge]

uwu

[terse torrent]

Hai em

[soft hound]

says the polar bear

[pulsar ridge]

halllooo

[terse torrent]

How is life :D

[soft hound]

🐒

[terse torrent]

UwU

I am living a good life for one week

Sleeping all day everyday

Yah but u don't need one yet

Fall :)

Plus imagine coinbase

Nah i need job

I'm homeless

😢

Bruh i got scammed for this internship

:( poor mans needs moneys

Yes

Cats eat wagyu beef

😋

@restive rampart no u monkey

[pulsar ridge]

sus

[terse torrent]

Getting bullied

Be quiet@restive rampart

?mute @restive rampart

I'm the one speaking fax

He's a capper

He admits it himself

very funny

nope

[pulsar ridge]

no @split shuttle is a polar bear

[formal finch]

I met @restive rampart and i can confirm that he's monke

[formal finch]

i tell u that im 6'5 male at trading firm that can weightlift 2tons

im never cappin broooo

[glossy vapor]

trading firm != 6’5

[night surge]

Wait

If that was a hard requirement

[fast dagger]

https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/mx4ccq/google_offering_an_extra_4000_stipend_to_all/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf damn son

I thought only quant interns randomly got pay increases out of nowhere

[frail birch]

how long should it take to solve LC hards

LC medium is 10-20min right

is LC hard 45min to 1 hour?

[fast dagger]

Depends on your goals

But generally you may not even have to solve them

Have never encountered a Lc hard on an actual interview

[frail birch]

interesting

my goal is for new grad 2022

the only hard i got at onsites for internships this year was at google, i just found it on leetcode randomly lol. i had a mostly working solution but didn't do it quite right, but somehow passed.

however, i assume for new grad the bar will be higher and i will actually need to be able to solve it correctly and optimally like a medium?

Maybe i need to take a chill pill

[frosty ginkgo]

takes me 2-3 hrs to solve a medium

but i havent taken an academic dsa class so im chill

[still gazelle]

pro tip: they dont help

[exotic atlas]

heavily disagree

[still gazelle]

maybe at berk its different 🤣

[frosty ginkgo]

i mean my csa class def helped me to understand fundamentals

[frosty ginkgo]

yea but ive self studied a bit

but i havent learnt jack abt the common patterns so idrc abt the time it takes as long as im learning

naw im not imao

ok that i can agree with

cp and cm kids are in their own world

[willow geyser]

whats cp cm

[frosty ginkgo]

competitive programming and competitive math

[willow geyser]

what year of hs?

[frosty ginkgo]

senior

[willow geyser]

tbh you already looking decently prepared to hit the ground running freshman year

[frosty ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-daddy-gif-5368681

[willow geyser]

you know what school you're going to yet?

[frosty ginkgo]

Commited Uw madison a while back

[willow geyser]

nice

in general school does help a lot, good eng schools + cs schools is a boost

[frosty ginkgo]

yep thats fs

[still gazelle]

no hes not

hes ahead of like 99.99%

dracos is in a great spot to get step/explore

[frosty ginkgo]

Idw step/explore tbh

I want the normal swe one or a unicorn which is a long shot but imma see what happens lol

[tulip jay]

was the posting open online?

[gaunt mirage]

I've applied to almost 400 internships

I think I'm gonna give up

[lunar dagger]

@gaunt mirage don't give up man

Id applied to 400 with nothing a month ago, butmy past 100 or so apps have given me a ton of responses

As long as you keep trying you can get something

It's hard but it'll pay off

[still gazelle]

r u getting through resume screens or r u failing the interviews/OAs?

[gaunt mirage]

I think I'm getting through some resume screens

I've done like 10 interviews

[still gazelle]

well u figured out ur problem then

just work on improving ur interview skills man

[gaunt mirage]

yeah

[remote geyser]

how many you at now?

[remote geyser]

no pain no gain

[dark junco]

Those are possible freshman year but getting STEP/explore would be fantastic too

[frosty ginkgo]

i can "fake" sophomore bc i have enough credits so i think it might open a few doors

[dark junco]

Yeah that's worth doing for sure

[lunar dagger]

probably like 500

wait I miscounted

I was at ~300 with nothing

I checked my spreadsheet and I'm at 372

[viscid holly]

yall think its too late to apply for internships this summer

rising senior lmfao

[lunar dagger]

never too late

fiend angel list and linkedin

[viscid holly]

angel list?

[lunar dagger]

angel list especially has a high response rate

[viscid holly]

im lowkey a bum btw

[lunar dagger]

small startups

[charred roost]

Yeah companies are always hiring so you can find something

[viscid holly]

i dont really leetcode

[lunar dagger]

https://angel.co/jobs

[viscid holly]

decent grades, 3.7 gpa

[lunar dagger]

@viscid holly

[charred roost]

You can still land one without leetcode

[gentle tangle]

um

[viscid holly]

im honestly not strong at any language either

just proficient

[lunar dagger]

if you don't have a ton of experience, startups are the move

[gentle tangle]

how does angel.co know i am looking for engineering interns

[lunar dagger]

good way to learn a ton

[gentle tangle]

bro i just signed in with my gmail

[viscid holly]

i see i see

thank you all

im assuming these are unpaid?

[charred roost]

Some are unpaid but some are paid as well

[lunar dagger]

yeah

[viscid holly]

I see I see

[lunar dagger]

shop around

[viscid holly]

i was just scared

i heard if i dont land an internship this summer im gonna get screwed in the job hunt for next year

i did apply to places this fall but it was mainly a bust lmfao

[lunar dagger]

not necesarily

[viscid holly]

farthest i got was interview with barclays

[lunar dagger]

like there's so many cs jobs out there

[viscid holly]

i really dont wanna leave my home state either and go to bumbleville, mississippi

[charred roost]

Not really

You said you have previous experience right.

?*

[viscid holly]

no

[lunar dagger]

like it may not be faang but it'll be something that still pays really well for only a bachelors

[viscid holly]

none at all

[charred roost]

I see

[viscid holly]

im a cs junior at rutgers

my degree is basically done

[charred roost]

You can still get a job without internships

[viscid holly]

im also a math major

[lunar dagger]

if I'm gonna be honest, it'll be tougher than if you had internships

[charred roost]

Most people don't have internships anyways

[lunar dagger]

but it's still very doable

Ik a ton of people who never did internships or anything

and ended up working at like

[charred roost]

Yeah it'll be a little more difficult since there's no experience on your resume but you can definitely get one

[lunar dagger]

dell

fidelity

etc

[charred roost]

Yeah

Like average number of internships people have is 0-1

[viscid holly]

hopefully with some experience this summer it could happen

yeah idk

its crazy some people in my school have like 2-3

and im like holy shit

[charred roost]

Do you have any personal projects you've worked on?

[viscid holly]

and thats when i realized grades dont matter

[charred roost]

Like an app or a hackathon project

[viscid holly]

i dont

well

[charred roost]

Or even class projects

[viscid holly]

i have an idea for one and I was gonna use this summer to develop it

yes i have class projects

[charred roost]

You can put those projects on your resume

It can show that you gave atleast some experience programming

[lunar dagger]

honestly my advice for u is to fiend angel list as well

apply to anything and everything

[viscid holly]

it is on my resume

tbf i only applied to mainly banks in the winter

and like ibm, lockheed for data science

[charred roost]

Yeah just keep browsing Angel List and LinkedIn

I'm constantly seeing listings for summer 2021

[viscid holly]

would i be able to find something data science related?

or am i screwed in that regards

[night surge]

Data Science?

[charred roost]

like AI/ML?

[night surge]

Yeah that could be why

[charred roost]

AI/ML could be difficult

[night surge]

It is no doubt

[charred roost]

Don't most AI/ML positions ask for masters students

[night surge]

It’s not even that

[viscid holly]

just data science

[night surge]

Like that’s true

[viscid holly]

data analysis

idk

[night surge]

But it’s worse

[viscid holly]

so should i just aim for software engineering?

[night surge]

Bruh data analysis is data analyst

[viscid holly]

i wanted to do data science or quant work as my career in the future

[night surge]

Sure

[viscid holly]

dude idk shit about these job titles

[night surge]

That’s ok

Just start with what you want

And what you can do

[viscid holly]

hopefully i can look around for different job titles maybe

[charred roost]

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/search/?f_E=1&f_TPR=r604800&geoId=103644278&keywords=data analyst intern&location=United States

This should be a linkedin search for data analyst intern positions

That have opened up recently

So you could go through this list

[viscid holly]

what is data analyst

its not data science

[night surge]

No

It’s worse

[charred roost]

Oh lmao

Ignore that then

[viscid holly]

im curious tho

[night surge]

Don’t take just my word for it

[viscid holly]

at this point ill do anything related to my field

ill apply everywhere

i just need something

for salvation

[night surge]

Like when I say it’s worse I mean it’s not the data science with ML like most ppl here love and enjoy

But often ur tasks are like that of a data analyst

You can have a data scientist who just does data engineering most of the time

[viscid holly]

what does a data analyst do

[night surge]

Just look that part up

[viscid holly]

bet

[neon ridge]

anyone knows where to find university recruiters' emails?

[gentle tangle]

@lunar dagger do you know if recruitors are able to see the resume you uploaded on angel or can they only see the profile you built on the site

[lunar dagger]

Not sure tbh

Wait actually yeah they can

[gentle tangle]

ok i was wondering if i should really pump up the profile or just let them see my resume

[charred roost]

Yeah they can see your resume

[sweet pollen]

This worries me. The internship starts in 3 weeks.

[lunar dagger]

Worst case scenario talk to your manager when the internship starts?

I'm not sure what else to do tbh

Besides sending more emails

[river sable]

IBM already rejected me for 2022 summer internship

[mint cipher]

I k ow right you can improve so much in just a few months

[still gazelle]

i think u should be applying to fall positions rn

not summer

[mint cipher]

Yep start applying for summer 2022 in August

[night surge]

yeah i dont think those apps will close anytime soon

im not sure for myself but i think a few weeks before my internship ends ill apply

[hexed wave]

Actually I had an ibm application for summer 2022 close on Friday

[night surge]

wait so that means new waves is a new application posting?

bc of all places, i dont think they finish first

[mint cipher]

Wtf how why in earth are they so early

[steady obsidian]

next thing you know we're doing applications for summer 2024 in spring 2022

[mint cipher]

i should start applying to 2023 new grad jobs

[sinful tusk]

When did u contact them

[rustic thunder]

https://strawpoll.com/fjhzu3rr4 (Post-COVID)

currently have the privilege to choose where I work...

[mint cipher]

im not sure asking a bunch idiot students is the best way to choose

btw i include myself as one of those idiot students

[dark junco]

Yeah it totally depends on your personality, but I think NYC is the best place to live in 20s and 30s

[abstract wagon]

Isn’t it better to apply as soon as they post positions?

Bc if companies posted a position now, maybe they’ll fill up all positions when I apply next summer/fall

Idk

I never saw companies begin recruiting so early before this year’s Imc and hrt

When you say shit CV, do you mean one with less internship(s)?

I thought putting something like “incoming xx intern” might work

[frosty ginkgo]

looking at the mans cv, it pretty good tbh

doordash + amazon with icpc

but yea i agree with ur statement from before

if ur cv ass then summer will help improve it

[lunar dagger]

Internship at a small startup as fullstack swe intern or at top biotech company as data analyst intern?

Which do u guys think is better

[charred roost]

Is the pay similar for both companies?

[lunar dagger]

I think the biotech company is a good bit more

like double or triple

[charred roost]

oh damn

Yeah that's a tough choice

I'm kinda leaning towards biotech bc of pay and brand recognition but idk I'm not sure what a data analyst intern would do

[lunar dagger]

idk either lmao

the recruiter just said I'd be doing shit with python

[charred roost]

I see

[lunar dagger]

I'm not sure which would be best bc like

data analyst isn't swe, but the biotech company has a lot more name brand recognition

but the startup is fullstack swe but doesn't have any name brand recognition

[charred roost]

yea

[lunar dagger]

I'm leaning towards biotech

[charred roost]

Yeah

It's not like going with a data analyst role will shut you out from SWE in the future

[lunar dagger]

yeah that's true

and honestly I wanna do ml in the future anyways

so hopefully this would be a step in the right direction?

[charred roost]

Yeah it could maybe help?

Idk I'm not a data science/ml/ai person

[gentle tangle]

is brand recognition important?

i was thinking of doing 2 startups/small companies and than try to shoot for a company like roblox, tesla, etc

[weak oracle]

Brand recognition hella important ngl

(not sure if you're still referring to ML roles here)
but having brand recognition def important to be taken seriously by a lot of companies if you aren't a MS student yet

[gentle tangle]

ehh swe roles in general

im not really that big on ML

[weak oracle]

I still think brand recognition is important to an extent

there are some companies that are like if you see the person working there you might be like alright we'll give them an interview

like if you see someone with Google Tesla Apple etc ect

but there isn't much of a difference in terms of like less competitive companies

[simple saffron]

tesla what

random company to add there

[weak oracle]

like no one hiring is probably gonna be like "This guy is a Software Engineer for Kleenex we gotta email him immediately" (i don't actually know about kleenex swe i assume it's not a huge thing)

[weak oracle]

Aren't tesla internships hella competitive

it's one of those companies basically no one hears back from afaik

[simple saffron]

to an extent

their pay is not competitive though

ig the name is very recognizable tho

[weak oracle]

yeah I'm not talking pay I'm mostly talking utility to get later positions

[simple saffron]

just thought it was funny seeing it sandwiched between those companies

[weak oracle]

Also riceu mentioned tesla so I thought I'd mention it lol

[simple saffron]

tesla ofc on a resume looks v good

[weak oracle]

yee

[simple saffron]

ur amazon right

[weak oracle]

AWS

[simple saffron]

very nice

[weak oracle]

hence the 🍌

[simple saffron]

figured

which location

[weak oracle]

Seattle

[simple saffron]

nice. you living there? heard its hybrid

[gentle tangle]

hmm

[weak oracle]

Yep I'm working out of Nitro North

living in Mercer Court UW housing

[simple saffron]

sick

[weak oracle]

should be hype

[simple saffron]

im having trouble finding housing rn

[weak oracle]

flying out there on Sunday

[gentle tangle]

what are generally companies outside of FAANG that only accept elite applicants with a loaded experience list from brand names

[weak oracle]

you aren't Amazon right

[simple saffron]

all i can find are overpriced luxury apts on U district

nope

[weak oracle]

what are you

(and where are you going

[simple saffron]

seattle

i just want a 1b/1b lmao

[weak oracle]

If you can the best rates I've seen are long term hotel housing

[simple saffron]

huh really

[weak oracle]

Quants

[weak oracle]

Yeah if you can find a roomate

[simple saffron]

^^^

and like up and coming ML driven companies like waymo

[weak oracle]

you can get like 2500 a month room so that comes out to 1200 a month or something which is cheaper than the apartments

[weak oracle]

I took a fat L from Waymo 😭 hopefully next summer

[simple saffron]

bro same

i got bodied in my phone loll

[weak oracle]

at least you got an interview

failed resume screen apparently

[simple saffron]

i literally only got it because of my referral

should not have even touched that app honestly

[weak oracle]

then again, my inbox was full for 2 months so they literally could've called me and would've never even known

[simple saffron]

lmfao

[weak oracle]

pain

I know for a fact JNJ rejected me after calling me and not being able to leave a voice mail

cause I recognized the phone number from the previous semester and I was like

[simple saffron]

clear out your voicemail bro

[weak oracle]

"Huh it's weird that they didn't leave a voicemail this time, guess they'll call me back in the future"

and then rejection letter lmao

Yeah I cleared it out like a week ago

so should be okay from now on

didn't think that was a problem possible to have in 2021

[simple saffron]

rip rip

lmfao

[weak oracle]

whatevs

if I didn't have a job id' be a lot more mad

[green salmon]

How do u handle

When 2 recruiters from the same company

Hit u up

And u already spoke to one

But the other one

Wants u to speak to the hiring manager directly

[still gazelle]

unicorns

[torn dagger]

is ur internship in person?

[simple saffron]

nah but I want to live in seattle

also long time skwiid man

[torn dagger]

lol fr

[simple saffron]

howd the verisk talk go lol

[torn dagger]

she was very understanding

just asked me for some data to make their internship process better

[simple saffron]

that makes sense

[torn dagger]

like if they should raise salary and stuff

[simple saffron]

tbh they seem really really nice and solid

their pay is just low

[torn dagger]

its in Lexington so its understandable ig

[simple saffron]

exactly

[night surge]

verisk analytics?

[simple saffron]

yea

[torn dagger]

ye

[night surge]

nice

[simple saffron]

also where are you living skwiid

wanna let a rando crash lmfao

[torn dagger]

school apartment

[simple saffron]

ah

do you have any friends subletting

[torn dagger]

i got 3 roommates

[simple saffron]

o shit

[torn dagger]

nah they dont allow subletting for outsiders which is dumb

[simple saffron]

tf

[torn dagger]

ik

[simple saffron]

cap hill right

[night surge]

what who would sublet then lol

[torn dagger]

only students from my school that need a place to stay in the summer

ye im in cap hill

[simple saffron]

thats dumb ill just pretend to go to seattle U i guess

[torn dagger]

Seattle housing in general is just expensive af

my room is tiny and i pay $1300 a month

[simple saffron]

jeez

[torn dagger]

try subletting for a UW dorm

im pretty sure they allow it

[simple saffron]

yeah

[torn dagger]

but ew dorms

[simple saffron]

i heard that area kinda sucks tho

also that

[torn dagger]

it aint that bad, theres a ton of restaurants and stuff. But its not close to downtown

[simple saffron]

i mean cap hill is the most exciting right

i just want to make friends

[torn dagger]

i guess so, the general population here is young and there are lots of bars

very liberal

[abstract wagon]

How is Mongo DB process?

[earnest kestrel]

Has anyone gotten an OA from Kargo or taken it i just got mine

[sweet pollen]

Awesome. There’ll really be no internship for me

I don’t have invoices

And I explained in my email to this person that I didn’t generate revenue

[runic tinsel]

Since I don't have an internship for this summer after not getting a return offer at a FAANG previously, can I just assume my skills are not upto the mark? Or is that me being too harsh on myself.

[charred roost]

I think that might be a little harsh on yourself. I mean we are still in a pandemic after all and hiring is still a bit of a mess so don't feel bad that you weren't able to get anything. Just keep grinding and you'll be able to get something!

[runic tinsel]

tbh I think my school isn't that prestigous so I might be not getting offers because of that. Like for example, I've seen who has gotten offers at LinkedIn and SF over me (for the same team + role since its team based) and both are students from Ivies. I just think school name matters even more during a "recession"

[mint cipher]

my understanding is that school name only matters if its top 10

[runic tinsel]

top 10 CS?

[mint cipher]

ye

not too sure

[runic tinsel]

I mean, Brown isn't a top 10 CS but recruiters hit up all of their students right

[mint cipher]

but i think so

idk honestly

[frosty ginkgo]

were u getting interviews

[frosty ginkgo]

bro u go to brown 😂

ur network is goated

[runic tinsel]

im international, so yeah a couple. This season I've had Microsoft (failed onsite), Google (failed back to back PS without going to HC), Uber (failed phone screen), Quip (failed phone screen), Salesforce (failed final round), LinkedIN (failed final round)

[charred roost]

International

[runic tinsel]

No I don't. I go to a private school in the bay area.

[charred roost]

that could be an issue ngl

For this year atleast

[runic tinsel]

I

[charred roost]

International students getting kinda fucked over

[runic tinsel]

I've seen them getting offers tho 😦

[frosty ginkgo]

oh nvm where did i see brown from i saw it somehwere

[charred roost]

Are they international too?

[runic tinsel]

Idk it just seems like my years of hard work have gone down the gutter because of one bad internship

[frosty ginkgo]

ohh nvm u were j talking in general

[runic tinsel]

Yeah in general

[frosty ginkgo]

wait scu?

[charred roost]

I don't think you've wasted your hard work

[runic tinsel]

like quant firms will hire someone from a meh CS program like Dartmouth over students from my school

[frosty ginkgo]

yep so its definitely that you need to practice more lc

and im guessing these were after doing decent on the oa right

[charred roost]

Yeah just looking at this list, it sounds like you just need to improve your interview skills maybe?

[runic tinsel]

I aced leetcode questions for microsoft, linkedin and salesforce

[charred roost]

You seem to have all the technical skills

[runic tinsel]

didnt do great on the lc hards i got asked at google and uber

and blanked out on a medium for quip, eventually solving but only right at the end

[frosty ginkgo]

what was ur exp with like the smaller companies

[runic tinsel]

but yeah hards dont click for me tbh

[frosty ginkgo]

since all i see are big names rn

[runic tinsel]

most of them at least

i had applovin

got rejected, but they only hire 1 intern for ML so idk

[charred roost]

That must've just been extremely competitive then

[frosty ginkgo]

only small company that reached out to u?

[runic tinsel]

yup

and now i have pocket gems oa but thats all

[weak oracle]

ML internships are insanely competitive

[charred roost]

^

[weak oracle]

esp considering that most only take grad students

[runic tinsel]

yeah its also impossible to get if you dont attend a top school

[charred roost]

yeah I was just about to ask

[runic tinsel]

im a grad student Mike

[charred roost]

Oh

[weak oracle]

oh

[charred roost]

Still though

It's insanely competitive

[weak oracle]

yee

[runic tinsel]

My friend from stanford had such an easy time getting an ML job

he must've had multiple ML offers too

[frosty ginkgo]

idt it was the school tbh

[runic tinsel]

i feel like if you're not in andrew Ngs lab or something then you don't stand a chance

i mean, he's smart as fuck

[weak oracle]

Stanford ML students typically know their shit

[runic tinsel]

but still

[frosty ginkgo]

its all ur interview performance after u get the interview

[runic tinsel]

i've studied stanford's ml courses 5-6 times too

[charred roost]

Yeah I think you might just need to practice interviews

[weak oracle]

Idk I slid right into amazon ML if you can get an interview you're vibing

and I'm at NEU which def isn't top 10

[charred roost]

Because just by going off of what you've said so far, you seem really smart

[weak oracle]

maybe T30 for CS

[runic tinsel]

nice

[charred roost]

NEU Co-op really nice

[weak oracle]

Mostly just get to the interview somehow then ball out

[frosty ginkgo]

only reason neu isnt that "high ranked" is bc of the grad rate

[runic tinsel]

i wouldn't say im super smart, but im very hard working to make up for the gaps in smartness

[frosty ginkgo]

bc ppl do co op there

[frosty ginkgo]

idk there must be smt happening tho if u said u aced msft, linkedin, salesforce

[weak oracle]

Yeah but the help for getting that co-op hella trash I basically had to apply entirely separately and then just be like "I got an internship let's make it my co-op"

lol

[charred roost]

lol

[runic tinsel]

NEU is solid, they rejected my grad school app lol

[weak oracle]

if you aced MSFT Linkedin and Salesforce you're def vibing

[charred roost]

I have a friend at NEU but he made it sound like it was straight forward to get a Co op lmao

[weak oracle]

Usually, this year it's only like 60% chance of getting one

cause bovid

[frosty ginkgo]

no he said he aced the problems

but didnt get offer

[charred roost]

Dude's goated, he's dual majoring in CS and CE and then minoring in Robotics

[weak oracle]

o

[runic tinsel]

I didn't ace the ML case study for Microsoft so yeah thats probably why I didn't pass

But I eventually learned how to answer those better

[weak oracle]

yeah ML Is super important for ML interviews lol

[runic tinsel]

I mean, I know ML

[frosty ginkgo]

wait hol up are u applying to strictly ml shit?

[weak oracle]

Grokking the ML interview is helpful

[runic tinsel]

but I don't think i asked enough questions to clarify the case

[weak oracle]

Also a lot of times in ML interviews

they grill you on a past project

and then are like

"why did you make these design choices"

and then you gotta explain

so my point is

do projects and then study what you did lol

[charred roost]

damn i'd definitely fail ML interviews then lmfao

i don't really have any explanations to my choices

I just do

[runic tinsel]

my side projects are all CNNs so idk what other options I should have spoken about

maybe diff architectures?

[frosty ginkgo]

i just bullshit

all my project frontends are all bullshit

[weak oracle]

yeah I mean anyone can throw together a half decent ML model but usually if you really know what you're doing you can justify every little thing

[runic tinsel]

I've used resnet so maybe why resnet over say lenet?

[frosty ginkgo]

frontend is just bullshitting styles to an extent

[charred roost]

Yeah i've just bullshitted so far too lmao

[frosty ginkgo]

and making it "look good"

[charred roost]

Though with apps not with front end stuff

I can't do front end for shit

[frosty ginkgo]

just display flex, justify content center, align items center

[weak oracle]

not necessarily saying to like volunteer that information cause it might not be important just prepared in case they ask for it

[frosty ginkgo]

and boom ur a frontend dev

[charred roost]

My website is the most generic basic Bootstrap site lmao

[frosty ginkgo]

mine built with react/typescript/sass with no framework

i regret that i built everything in custom css

[charred roost]

Lmfao

[neat tiger]

if anyone still knows of open positions / recruiters still looking pls lmk. i am in desperate need of an internship this summer