2021_summer

[thick ridge]

it's definitely more subejctive than that

[sonic badger]

i guess it depends on ur school and shit too

[woeful heart]

Anyone who is interviewing for Netflix Security Software Engineering internship?

want to know how it went and what should be expected.

[dapper shard]

Don’t think many people here got the phone interview for Netflix

For Twitter I doubt it’s that tbh

[woeful heart]

I was hoping that someone here would. fml

[dapper shard]

Do you have phone confirmed already?

@woeful heart

[woeful heart]

yes

[dapper shard]

Ah okay. Yeah I would just assume LeetCode but no idea what they even ask. This is the first time they’re doing undergrad internships so

Just be LeetCode prepared is all I can really say.

[woeful heart]

yeah. That's what I figured. I am in masters though

[still gazelle]

wow

so ig theyre only looking for really qualified people

[woeful heart]

unknown territory tbh

[stone tiger]

I heard netflix doesnt ask leetcode?

[woeful heart]

and I have 3 years of SDE work ex

[stone tiger]

Based on the few posts i read

[dapper shard]

Do you have security experience already? I had phone as well but I canceled it cause I’d rather do full stack compared to security work for my career

Nah they have two technical rounds that will have coderpad

[still gazelle]

i heard netflix is hell

[stone tiger]

@dapper shard i feel like its worth doing the interview just for the connection?

[dapper shard]

It’s recruiter phone screen, two technical rounds, final round with CIS manager

[stone tiger]

thats the only reason im doing it

[dapper shard]

I’d rather prep for twitter interview

[woeful heart]

I dont. I have been full stack for some time now, but now I want to explore other areas tbh

[stone tiger]

i dont even know anything about cloud security

lmfao

[dapper shard]

Canceled Facebook and Netflix

[dapper shard]

I’d say just LeetCode and hope for the best

[stone tiger]

I feel like coderpad doesnt mean leetcode necessairly

[dapper shard]

“Coding challenge” is what they had in the email tho?

So I figured LeetCode personally

[stone tiger]

Yeah true, could be like ood

too

with something about designing for security

[dapper shard]

OOD would be much more preferable

compared to LC

[stone tiger]

i wonder how much netflix pays 🤑

[thorny gorge]

poop

[jolly flint]

I was gonna skip a recent interview because of Coderpad but it turned out to just be Fibonacci

[thorny gorge]

[marsh meadow]

i heard netflix is pretty chill bc they're all snr devs

and pay is cash heavy as opposed to stock heavy

[dapper shard]

Lol in their culture memo

[marsh meadow]

sounds like a dream internship to be surrounded by snr devs

[dapper shard]

They actually let the devs choose who they want to be paid

So it can be all cash

Or stock heavy

Or a mix

If it were General SWE or full stack

Would honestly take it over Twitter

[obtuse otter]

i feel like, if the company is doing well and you think you’re going to stay for a few years, getting paid mostly in stock would be beautiful

[lilac cloak]

idnt netflix basically all senior engineers?

isnt(

[dapper shard]

Yeah

[woeful heart]

i heard it is 50-60$/hr in internship at netflix. thats a lot of money

[obtuse otter]

why is Netflix the only like big N that only hires senior engineers? do they actually see benefits from it or is it just a culture thing

[dapper shard]

And I would do all cash because I can always invest that cash into stock later. Harder to get that stock money back in cash.

[lilac cloak]

they wantvaluable engineers i guess

[dapper shard]

Matters what you bring home to put food on the table and pay bills. Stocks don’t pay bills.

And Netflix can just afford it so they have always only hired senior engineers. Streaming industry is getting more competitive though so it seems like they want to start hiring young talent before their competition

[obtuse otter]

i mean as a a software engineer i assume that’s the least of ur worries

[stone tiger]

@woeful heart whered you hear this? Isnt this the first official year of them doing an internship? I feel like theres no data

[obtuse otter]

as a senior software engineer in the bay*

[dapper shard]

I don’t think that principle changes tbh even as a SWE. At least that is something I’ll always follow

[woeful heart]

Glassdoor maybe

[dapper shard]

To each their own tho

[obtuse otter]

too many streaming services

[woeful heart]

can you trust glassdoor though?

[dapper shard]

They hired grad students for internships but those roles were for ml. Doubt they converted to full time tbh

[obtuse otter]

having straight cash is not good tho, either way with that money most of it is going back to stocks

[dapper shard]

How is it not good?

[obtuse otter]

not ideal if you’d like to retire early

[woeful heart]

Also, anyone who has interviewed with Snowflake? That's another one I have next week

[dapper shard]

If you’re making 400k+

Like the engineers at Netflix

No need to even have an aggressive portfolio

Cause your salary is going to let you retire early anyway

Just invest into mutual funds and ETFs and go about your day

[still gazelle]

^

[dapper shard]

Most engineers at Netflix are doing 70-80% or even more in cash and then the rest in stock.

[still gazelle]

60-120k a year compounded 10% for 20 years is a shit ton of money

[obtuse otter]

10% is not normal tho

[still gazelle]

no it is

thats spy bro

[obtuse otter]

this decade yeah

[still gazelle]

no

since the creation of it

[obtuse otter]

look historically

[marsh meadow]

it doesn't matter if u make 1m, you should still have money in the stock market unfortunately

[still gazelle]

last sentence

9.96%

[woeful heart]

I am gonna ask about Snowflake once this discussion is done 😛

[ionic bronze]

there was a Netflix engineer making 800k base and like 80k stocks

[dapper shard]

Which is why mutual funds and ETFs are your friends

[obtuse otter]

damn u guys made me get up into my chair, but you're not seeing 10% returns

[dapper shard]

About snowflake OA?

[obtuse otter]

taxes and fees

[still gazelle]

yeah but long term capital gains tax isnt that much

[obtuse otter]

not only that inflation is a thing

[woeful heart]

nah tech round. OA and 'introduction' round is done

*interview round

[obtuse otter]

u may see 10% gain, but your purchasing power isn't gaining 10% if that makes sense

[dapper shard]

All my point is, no need to have an aggressive portfolio at 400k+ salary because you’ll be able to retire early either way. That’s all I’m saying.

[woeful heart]

data science is overrated 😛

[obtuse otter]

@fast dagger @tacit halo

[still gazelle]

yeah of course. but you dont need to invest in high volitility stocks

[thorny gorge]

why cant i be jeff bezos

[vital elbow]

good question

[dapper shard]

Mmm I haven’t seen many people talk about snowflake interview but you can probably search “!process snowflake phone” or something and see what people got

[still gazelle]

im probably gonna do 70% index funds and 30% stocks

[marsh meadow]

You don't need an aggressive portfolio, but you should have a portfolio

[thorny gorge]

what are index funds

[woeful heart]

thanks my man!

[thorny gorge]

[dapper shard]

Yes I agree with this.

[obtuse otter]

i really do not think you'd be able to FIRE by 50 if you have a family + a house if you have all cash

[vital elbow]

it’s flat

Then it’s vertical

[still gazelle]

yeah ofc

thats why u invest in index funds

[ionic bronze]

but who needs a family

[vital elbow]

Then it’s vertical

[obtuse otter]

yeah thats what im saying either way you're investing the money back

[dapper shard]

I’m pretty sure you could tbh. Besides you’ll actually get taxed even more if you’re single.

[obtuse otter]

i'd rather take equity bc it's more when it vests

[marsh meadow]

index funds won't ever b vertical 🧠

[still gazelle]

yeah but u dont want netflix stock lol

[thorny gorge]

just invest in real estate

ez pz

[obtuse otter]

ya not netflix but like

[still gazelle]

if netflix fuckin goes bankrupt

[obtuse otter]

imagine working at microsoft

[vital elbow]

I don’t think polynomial regression would be good

[still gazelle]

u lose a shit ton of money

yeah yeah

[obtuse otter]

or amazon

ez

def increasing by the time it vests

[marsh meadow]

idc if im a millionaire, id rather drop a Milly on gme than spy on god 😤

[still gazelle]

yo guys how often do yall see binary questions and shit?

[dapper shard]

[obtuse otter]

omg

i was telling my girlfriend to short gme earlier when it was $70

but i bitched out

FUCK

[lilac cloak]

[stone tiger]

@still gazelle binary tree?

[marsh meadow]

binary is frequent know how to add n stufff

[still gazelle]

no like bit manipulation

[obtuse otter]

i coulda made some mcgriddle money

[dapper shard]

I got binary search questions during my Tableau interview

[obtuse otter]

low yield questions

[dapper shard]

Oh nvm

[obtuse otter]

its not worth learning bit manipulations tbh

NO IT WONT

[silk ridge]

never gotten bit manipulation

[thorny gorge]

but its very cool

[obtuse otter]

ill bet my RIGHT fucking testicle that it wont

[dapper shard]

Uh the only bit manipulation question I got was during HRT OA. Otherwise it’s never showed up on OAs or interviews for me

[still gazelle]

oh fuck

i guess i gotta learn it then

[obtuse otter]

oh yeah i should say it's not worth learning bit manipulation for interviews, but it's a cool topic nonetheless

[marsh meadow]

people who short a stock bc it went up a lot 🤡 🤡

[vital elbow]

rentech 🤩

[dapper shard]

Not worth learning for interviews tbh

[thorny gorge]

yea, but the shit u can do with bit manip is so interesting

just be better 🙂

[still gazelle]

the value in real estate is the amount of leverage you have

[obtuse otter]

oh yeah like bitmasking

but like u really wont need to do it in an interview yk

[dapper shard]

Real estate too confusing for me to get into for investing tbh

[thorny gorge]

yea bit masking is so op

[obtuse otter]

its hella cool but low yield info nonetheless

dp lowkey low yield but u didnt hear that from me

[marsh meadow]

wym real estate is just buy house n let it appreciate

[thorny gorge]

.

[obtuse otter]

buy a cheap house in austin

its going 🚀

[thorny gorge]

actually you can just do real estate/renting

[obtuse otter]

im calling it now

[dapper shard]

This is true. I actually decided against learning dp because if I get it then I wasn’t meant to be in the company anyway.

[still gazelle]

dp high yield

[thorny gorge]

the passive income is really nice

[still gazelle]

austins housting market already blew up

[obtuse otter]

deadass if i get asked dp then it's god's sign that the opportunity wasn't meant to be

[thorny gorge]

the wave is become SWE and then find a way to make passive income

anyone wanna follow me on twitch

[still gazelle]

dp is the only thing im good at

[marsh meadow]

dp was high yield for a ton of "cool" companies and not hard once u understand

[still gazelle]

bro i dont get graphs

but dp is my bitch

[woeful heart]

what do ya'll think about NetApp? Worth working in kind of struggling industry?

[ionic bronze]

I wish i knew dp

I love graphs

wtf

[still gazelle]

ill teach u dp

[dapper shard]

Hardly any of the companies I want in ask dp so no use in me learning it tbh

[obtuse otter]

i feel like it's entirely possible to get a big n job without dp

[still gazelle]

u teach me graphs

[stone tiger]

dp is the way to optimize some graph pfoblems lmao

[marsh meadow]

graphs r just bigger trees smh

[still gazelle]

i dont eevn know what a tree is

[ionic bronze]

kekw

[marsh meadow]

n trees r ez left or right

[dapper shard]

That’s too confusing for me

[obtuse otter]

shouldnt u be looking for a job ?

[thorny gorge]

trees too hard

[marsh meadow]

u can do tree problems with 0 algo knowledge

LEFT?

no... RIGHT!

[dapper shard]

Lmao you would think

[obtuse otter]

when i learned that bfs was literally just a queue

i nutted

[thorny gorge]

recursion op

[ionic bronze]

🌰

[obtuse otter]

contact alex he has data science connections

[dapper shard]

Never got that concept either

[woeful heart]

can't do dp if my life depends on it. Trees and Graph on the other hand.

[marsh meadow]

datadcience is dying career

[thorny gorge]

where is bezoscareers.dev

[obtuse otter]

thats this server

i feel like everyone here has the LPs memorized

[silk ridge]

be right, a lot

[stone tiger]

i failed after oa3 lmao

[dapper shard]

Half of this server is going to amazon. A third of the other half is in quants and another third is at stripe. Then the rest is doing fuck all

[thorny gorge]

basically ^

[obtuse otter]

dont forget the banks

[dapper shard]

That’s me ig

[thorny gorge]

but sometimes thinking recursively gets me mad confused

[obtuse otter]

yall c1 vs citadel i cant decide

[thorny gorge]

you should do a1

[woeful heart]

Anyone still waiting for amazon? or is it just me

[thorny gorge]

a1 steak sauce

[dapper shard]

I’m pretty sure they both reneged c1

[obtuse otter]

whose that guy that reneged c1 but still simps for it

[dapper shard]

Drillking to msft

[thorny gorge]

yes waiting for amazon to give me oa

[obtuse otter]

omg

[thorny gorge]

has anyone done msft swe process

[obtuse otter]

i recognize people based on profile pictures

[marsh meadow]

bro if ur a dev u should know recursion

[thorny gorge]

whats it like

[dapper shard]

I did forget tbh

[obtuse otter]

when u changed ur pfp i legit forgot

i got fish memory

[woeful heart]

feels like amazon ghosted me after TPM OA

waiting for SWE OA. hopeless

[obtuse otter]

how long ago did u take it?

[thorny gorge]

[lilac cloak]

did you apply early

[thorny gorge]

n

o

[lilac cloak]

like august/september early?

ah ok

ive heard reports of 4 mo waiting for OA 1

[woeful heart]

november i think. TPM

[thorny gorge]

really

[lilac cloak]

but i had to wait for only 2

[thorny gorge]

[woeful heart]

TPM internship that is

[lilac cloak]

i have hunches on the process

[obtuse otter]

honestly if u havent gotten a rejection then i wouldnt worry about it

[stone tiger]

i applied in august and emailed them in late december ab not getting the oa. They sent me it a week later lol

[dapper shard]

So you freshman and sophomore chads, how does it feel to be ahead of the game?

[lilac cloak]

but cant really confirm/deny anything besides what it's like taking the OAs

[thorny gorge]

i know a friend who applied in like december and recieved it in January

[dapper shard]

Cause I wish I knew about this stuff early

[thorny gorge]

amazon ihy

[still gazelle]

im teaching my TAs about web development...

[woeful heart]

oooo. I should do it too then

[silk ridge]

dude same i applied to like 10 companies freshman year

[obtuse otter]

i feel like im not going to find an internship next year

[still gazelle]

bro

[dapper shard]

After first phone?

[still gazelle]

u havbe linkedin

...

[woeful heart]

some of them are shit

[still gazelle]

wtf

[obtuse otter]

irational fears

that citadel guy scared me

[still gazelle]

story?

[obtuse otter]

he has to have been capping right?

[dapper shard]

Lmao I canceled mine to focus on Twitter. I realized even if I got Facebook offer I would still take J.P. Morgan over it.

[lilac cloak]

oshit congrats on linkedin bro

[obtuse otter]

i dont have the link but someone on reddit had big n + citadel on their resume but still was getting resume rejected everywhere

[still gazelle]

SOMEONE ON REDDIT

[obtuse otter]

i feel like it was cap but it scares me LMFAO

[dapper shard]

Not op enough ig...

[thorny gorge]

[still gazelle]

thats cap bro

[thorny gorge]

csmajors is toxic

[woeful heart]

send me your LinkedIn bruh

[stone tiger]

csmajors is just amazon oa questions

[restive falcon]

Lmao I know that exact post

[dapper shard]

Can’t believe people actually browse reddit like that tbh

You got rejected?😯

Resume?

[marsh meadow]

if it wasn't for my return offer id b jobless rn

[lilac cloak]

using reddit unironically

[thorny gorge]

im jobless

[obtuse otter]

bro the thing is

[thorny gorge]

[obtuse otter]

who'd lie about that

[restive falcon]

Y’all are on discord rn...

[dapper shard]

Lmao just a junior in college at Arkansas. It ain’t impressive

[lilac cloak]

true i am on discord ironically

[dapper shard]

Stop. I’m bored

[lilac cloak]

cant trust anyone here

that i havent met before

[obtuse otter]

i need help finding it do u remember the name

did the person delete it

[thorny gorge]

only like 3% of people use discord

[lilac cloak]

need time to build credibility for individuals

[marsh meadow]

bro first time i applied to twitter academy

i thought it was a karate program

mfw its coding

[dapper shard]

Hi bread @restive falcon

[lilac cloak]

idk why people be downvoting you @farm

@restive falcon

[still gazelle]

honestly bro who cares about other people

just get yo bread up

[terse torrent]

@thorny gorge did u get msft Interview?

[thorny gorge]

man 😭 i missed all these sophomore programs

@terse torrent nooo just asking for next yr

[terse torrent]

Oh ok

[stone tiger]

@obtuse otter Reddit - csMajors - Internship Struggles in Junior Year https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/k0exq2/internship_struggles_in_junior_year/

[restive falcon]

Hi peepo

[marsh meadow]

breadboard b in a min "EDIT: OMG GUYWS WHAT'S WITH ALL THA DWONVOTES"

[dapper shard]

Bruh I applied and I sent my resume that has my summer offer and I don’t think they do off season

[obtuse otter]

"For some background info, I am a currently a junior at a T10 school, have a perfect GPA, and decent number of extra-curricular activities. I was very fortunate to intern at a FAANG company freshman year and during sophomore year summer, interned at Citadel Securities (for SWE internship). However, when it comes to applying this year, it’s been really bad luck for me, from getting resume rejected everywhere to not even getting responses/interviews. I’ve only had one interview, which I aced, but for some reason, still got rejected."

SEE

[obtuse otter]

TYSM

[thorny gorge]

i did the verizon interview and its for Product Dev/Engineering

[lilac cloak]

wtf does "T10" mean

[restive falcon]

Top 10 school

[thorny gorge]

whats everyone thoughts on Product Dev/Eng?

[terse torrent]

@thorny gorge nice how'd it go

[dapper shard]

Don’t even know what that is tbh

[barren night]

Is this actually yield protection or could it be something else?

[marsh meadow]

I go to a T263 school

[lilac cloak]

sounds like this person has deteriorating soft skills

who knows

[terse torrent]

I got rejected for one soft dev and "emerging tech"

[dapper shard]

I go to T556 school

[restive falcon]

Seems cool

[thorny gorge]

it was pretty chill, if i get an offer i think ill accept for experience

[terse torrent]

I'm pretty sure my recruiter didn't correct my app for soft dev

[marsh meadow]

they cant get interviews

[terse torrent]

Nicee

[abstract wagon]

my school ranked for ugly

[terse torrent]

Verizon pretty good imo

[thorny gorge]

my interviewer said there is like barely any coding and just SQL and Scripting

[terse torrent]

My school ranked for weeb

[lilac cloak]

dunno then

[terse torrent]

Top weeb school

[restive falcon]

LOL rly

[still gazelle]

ahhh i want some OAs, gimme some OAs

[thorny gorge]

why was my verizon interview just behavorial

not fair

[terse torrent]

Toxic league, Koreaboos and ultimately weeb

[marsh meadow]

can i get an OA OWA

[lilac cloak]

OAs available on leetcode.com

[thorny gorge]

LMAOOOO

[terse torrent]

@thorny gorge be thankful

[restive falcon]

I thought product eng was when you worked on actual features on the product 💀

[thorny gorge]

OA OWA

[abstract wagon]

can i get an oa owo

[dapper shard]

I have ocient OA if you want that.

[marsh meadow]

what is it

[terse torrent]

@abstract wagon apply to wepay

[lethal ore]

Wanna trade oas?

[still gazelle]

how hard is that

[terse torrent]

Sadge ocient rejected me

[abstract wagon]

i did theirs already owo

[terse torrent]

No oa

[still gazelle]

at least yall are getting OAs

[dapper shard]

Build a virtual machine

[terse torrent]

OwO how'd u do

[thick ridge]

isnt ocient oa tedious af

[abstract wagon]

100% uwu

[still gazelle]

...

[dapper shard]

It is

[restive falcon]

@marsh meadow

[thorny gorge]

he described product dev as just going through the process of getting a product to consumers

[lilac cloak]

[terse torrent]

Fr @abstract wagon

[lilac cloak]

@dapper shard how i get dis emote

ur pfp

[terse torrent]

How u do that lc hard

[woeful heart]

😄

[terse torrent]

Godlike

[abstract wagon]

-w-

[marsh meadow]

sql n scripting sounds like data science not product

[terse torrent]

Kirby be my senpai

[thorny gorge]

[lilac cloak]

[abstract wagon]

tbf ive seen something similar

[lilac cloak]

oh shit found it

[abstract wagon]

owo

[thorny gorge]

welp experience is experience

[lilac cloak]

[thorny gorge]

[dapper shard]

I wish I had the emote

[lilac cloak]

if you have server managing stuff

you can downlosd the png

[thorny gorge]

[lilac cloak]

and add to server

[dapper shard]

I wish I had that power

[lilac cloak]

[restive falcon]

Hmm I’ll add it when I get back

[thorny gorge]

but verizon, u only gotta interview with one manager lolll

[abstract wagon]

best bread

[dapper shard]

Okay but Fr do we even attempt to do this Twitter OA or just take the chance on getting contacted back? Cause if people really get contacted without doing it then imma just let it slide

[thorny gorge]

they type out what you say in the interview

xd

[sonic badger]

[thorny gorge]

i straight up answer the question

[cobalt raven]

[thorny gorge]

and theres a 1 minute break

feels good

[woeful heart]

anyone?

[obtuse otter]

i cant find the citadel kid on linkedin

does that mean he doesnt exist

[thorny gorge]

youre the citadel kid

[lilac cloak]

[thorny gorge]

how do u guys reach out to alumnis that work at companies you wanna work at?

i gotta start networking

[dapper shard]

Do you think the #FirstFlightSpring program will require me to do it then? I think I’m legit the only person signed up for the spring program. And idk if they make you do the OA or not.

[lilac cloak]

talked with my uni's cs career ppl to connect, linkedin, alumni networks

[dapper shard]

Figured

[lilac cloak]

dont need to be big n

lots of good options

[woeful heart]

get linkedin premium. Use the template.

[dapper shard]

Bunch of business people from my school work at FAANG and big N but no SWE people

[thorny gorge]

template?

👀

[woeful heart]

message template for referrals

[lilac cloak]

bro what

who tf giving you referral

[thorny gorge]

where is this template lol

[dapper shard]

Bruh I wish more people here was signed up for first flight so I know how the process goes. Even when searching the server only one person did first flight and they were resume rejected.

[thorny gorge]

explore counts tf

[lethal ore]

^

[thorny gorge]

youre gonna get a nice return offer

[lilac cloak]

if you dont know the person well, how tf you expecting a referral

[ionic bronze]

you're just goated that's why 👀

[lethal ore]

You have a free way to return offer lol

[thorny gorge]

even microsoft on ur resume is a big WOW

[dapper shard]

If I were goated I would’ve passed an interview this season

[ionic bronze]

😦

[thorny gorge]

😭

[woeful heart]

Hi [],

Hope all is well with you! I came across the 2021 Intern - Software Development, Adobe Sign Enterprise role at Adobe and recently applied. Would you be open to submitting a referral for me to go with my application?

Happy to chat more if you have the time as well. Looking forward to hearing from you.

just add your story

[restive falcon]

Big N is still big N 🙂

[thorny gorge]

just saying, you have an offer and I dont

and you got an offer from Microsoft lol

[ionic bronze]

this is bs im underrepresented and im not even listed here 😦

[lilac cloak]

y people so obsessed with big n?

money?

[woeful heart]

worked most of the time. That was generated by Linkedin

[thorny gorge]

pog youre the best

[dapper shard]

For me, yes.

[obtuse otter]

i dont thin the list is inclusive

[marsh meadow]

explore is legit one of the most fun internships out there

[restive falcon]

Yes money + prestige

[lilac cloak]

what's prestige

[marsh meadow]

prolly the most fun imo

[obtuse otter]

im so sad i got rejected from explore so fast

[ionic bronze]

kekw, no, pacific islander

[obtuse otter]

i legit professed my love for microsoft over the phone

[thorny gorge]

explore ghosted me kek

[obtuse otter]

and they still rejected me

[lethal ore]

I did simp for any big N

[ionic bronze]

@dapper shard can we still apply to first flight?

[lilac cloak]

[ionic bronze]

if i can do twitter and snap in the same year 👀

[dapper shard]

I think deadline maybe just passed but I would still check

[lilac cloak]

been asking abt prestige bc im not blind to it, but wondering how people view prestige

[thorny gorge]

[obtuse otter]

why dont companies let u just move to another season it makes no sense to me

[stone tiger]

Anyone know the start dates for salesforce?

[obtuse otter]

like what about summer is so special :(

[marsh meadow]

explore u do half pm half swe so they can't commit u too hard to a long-term project, there's few/no expectations, and ur in a pod of three running around terrorizing the fulltimes. Id rather do explore than a regular internship

[lilac cloak]

brb becoming escodt

escort

[obtuse otter]

i assure u they have 0 reneges if they let u switch

[thorny gorge]

microsoft has nice wlf

[dapper shard]

Teams might not have the time to train the intern or they just don’t have time in the company period.

[stone tiger]

@obtuse otter i think because its just a formal process

[lilac cloak]

brb becominf famous youtuber

[woeful heart]

very often people will try to help you if you are from the same uni. Just have to convince them you are good for the job

[lilac cloak]

i dont think it would be prestigious, just highly contended

??

wym nerds

[restive falcon]

I would say prestige also correlates with selectivity rather than just pure money

[thorny gorge]

amazon pls give me oa

[lilac cloak]

being a nerd isnt a prereq for hitting it big

[obtuse otter]

i feel like 4 months sept -> jan is plenty enough but i do get the time thing bc at the end of the year is when a lot of deadlines are

[dapper shard]

We are all nerds. Let’s be real 🤓

[thorny gorge]

yup

[ionic bronze]

[obtuse otter]

idts roblox pays a lot but idk how prestigious it is compared to other unicorns

[ionic bronze]

they start at like 180k+ right?

[thorny gorge]

well then they stinky when they see you pull up in an Audi

[obtuse otter]

dude when i told someone i know i did a google summer program they thought i was tech support

[ionic bronze]

jeez

[marsh meadow]

who cares what uninformed ppl think tf

[dapper shard]

Honestly after you get summer offers just work on socializing skills if you suck at. Better for you in the long run.

[obtuse otter]

ya they get BAGS

[woeful heart]

waiting for the phone screening now 😛

[lilac cloak]

warehouse worker intern at amazon

[restive falcon]

Yup

[ionic bronze]

pog

all that robux

[thorny gorge]

lmao

roblox

[obtuse otter]

someone i know was talking about why i was so excited about an amazon interview bc of how easy it was to get a job there

[thorny gorge]

mad funny

[woeful heart]

talk about music for like two minutes. imo it helps

[marsh meadow]

roblox is 180k rn but after ipo could be like 300k+

[dapper shard]

Because CS majors have to flex on the uninformed people who don’t give a shit where they work

[thorny gorge]

amazon tooooo ez

ill start as a janitor and make my way up

daddy bezos got me

[ionic bronze]

what if you only listen to obscure anime music 😦

[lilac cloak]

i think amazon entry level in bay ia around 180k/yr TC

[dapper shard]

Find the weebs at your school

[thorny gorge]

what if you talk about your music

[woeful heart]

talk about instruments you want to learn to play

[thorny gorge]

and they hate it

not a lot of people like EDM

[lilac cloak]

i got numbers for retuen offers from my office

[thorny gorge]

[lilac cloak]

crunched comes out to 177k/yr

[dapper shard]

Doordash

[woeful heart]

change your taste 😛

[thorny gorge]

nop fk u

[lilac cloak]

tech and finance

^^

unfortunate but seems to be the case from my experience

[obtuse otter]

amazon has normie prestige once u tell people it's not warehouse

[thorny gorge]

lmao

[restive falcon]

Amazon is a fine place to work and it used to be more highly regarded among cs majors before they started expanding like crazy

[ionic bronze]

i feel like just saying you're a software engineer has prestige with normies lol

[thorny gorge]

just say you work as a software dev lmao

dont bring up amazon

[obtuse otter]

imagine being the amazon employee that has to recreate jeff bezos erect penis in VR

[marsh meadow]

if u care that much then instead of saying "i work for company" say "im a swe at company" ???

[dapper shard]

Honestly this. Literally just say “I’m an engineer” or “I’m a software engineer”.

[lilac cloak]

^^^

[ionic bronze]

people will be like

[obtuse otter]

i hate saying i do computer science

[thorny gorge]

[still gazelle]

@restive falcon could we have a "this" emote pls 🥺

[thorny gorge]

didnt i just say that

[ionic bronze]

"omg ur an engineer ur so smart "

[thorny gorge]

[woeful heart]

netapp, netapp, netapp, netapp. ya'll opinion 😛

[lilac cloak]

"swe at amazon" confusio averted

[woeful heart]

hahahaha.

[obtuse otter]

people get weird about it like they're like "omg ur so smart and rich hahah" no i got $1 and im failing half my classes leave me alone

[dapper shard]

Umm I’ve never heard of the company before. What do they do specifically?

[thorny gorge]

engineers cant do math

[lilac cloak]

no?

seems to be false

[thorny gorge]

lol

[lilac cloak]

(if youre in tech)

[dapper shard]

A lot more people know about jp Morgan than I thought tbh

[stone tiger]

i soon as i see a coding problem with heavy math, i check out lmao

[thorny gorge]

clout chasing is googles home court

[dapper shard]

Dude nah Fr

[obtuse otter]

fr?

[ionic bronze]

when i say i work for or a bank people think im a bank teller or something lol

[dapper shard]

People know J.P. Morgan like that

[lilac cloak]

ah

[obtuse otter]

my phone is too old to install tinder

[dapper shard]

Non tech people

[lilac cloak]

finance is big

[thorny gorge]

jp morgan is for their atm's

[woeful heart]

data management solution. really good at what they do. just more oldies in the company than your avg companies

[marsh meadow]

ppl hate tech bros bc of how conceited and obsessed over money and prestige they are while other ppl face other problems, I wont admit i work in tech ☠️

[thorny gorge]

and their blue debit cards

chase debit card OP

[dapper shard]

People think of you work at J.P. Morgan you making hella bank

[abstract wagon]

From what I’ve heard JP Morgan is a bad place to internet at lol

[lilac cloak]

my guy is so blinded

[obtuse otter]

COINBASE

[abstract wagon]

Intern**

[thorny gorge]

bruh stop thinking about it too much

[dapper shard]

They sound solid and good for long term work. Not necessarily a place if you want face paced growth tho

[thorny gorge]

its like FAANG or bust mentality

[obtuse otter]

"yes real people are facing problems. we don't care about them blackies tho 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 "

[thorny gorge]

[ionic bronze]

[thorny gorge]

just take a drink

[dapper shard]

I’ve heard opposite. I’ve heard really really nice place to intern and work ft at.

[abstract wagon]

who do I message for the intern salary sharing

[thorny gorge]

[ionic bronze]

quant or bust

[obtuse otter]

are there any companies that are like actually bad to intern at?

[thorny gorge]

500k by 30

[restive falcon]

cscareers bot

[thorny gorge]

ez pz

[abstract wagon]

@dapper shard one of my friends interned there and had a really bad experience

[dapper shard]

Last summer?

[obtuse otter]

i feel like interns get the best treatment

[ionic bronze]

hey man hopefully inflation goes high enough

[lilac cloak]

probably, but they also prib arent ob most of the lists

[obtuse otter]

but ft gets fucked over

[abstract wagon]

I believe it was last summer or the one before

[obtuse otter]

ye thats true

[still gazelle]

anyone else frustrated from taking Ls 😦

[dapper shard]

[abstract wagon]

Don’t remember correctly

Might’ve been the summer before

[restive falcon]

One of my friends also interned there and they had a great time

[still gazelle]

3m by 30? wtf

[ionic bronze]

could have worked with peepo 😦

[dapper shard]

Last summer was scuffed asf is why.

[obtuse otter]

citadel ft work 70 hrs a week while interns get flown out to a resort

[woeful heart]

internship should be good. maybe not full time

[still gazelle]

why do people overexaggerate citadel wlb

[abstract wagon]

feel like the remote and virtual experiences are just not the best

[restive falcon]

Idk if it’s an exaggeration from what I’ve heard LOL

[obtuse otter]

its def 50-60 and i can see 70 at the tail end

i dont think its exaggerated

go on blind

[dapper shard]

I would maybe intern for the experience but if you are wanting a place to return to full time then I might look elsewhere. If you are fine with reinterviewing somewhere else for full tie then definitely go for it.

[obtuse otter]

anyone who says citadel has bad wlb is from citadel

[still gazelle]

holy fuck

[obtuse otter]

it makes sense tho, their money is directly correlated to their performance

[restive falcon]

Interns also are expected to work hella for citadel

[still gazelle]

hiru said it was like 40-50hrs

[obtuse otter]

so they work hard asf

[dapper shard]

I heard interns try to go to citadel securities so that their wlb isn’t near as bad.

[restive falcon]

Portal said he wouldn’t go back

[marsh meadow]

I really wanted to work for flexport a year ago and a friend had a friend who was interning there, and she said she could get me a referral, but then found out n told me her friend at flexport had depression bc of flexport so i thibk that's an internship i wouldn't do ☠️

[restive falcon]

Hiru hasn’t started yet

[obtuse otter]

how do i become a billionaire while averaging less than 40 hr/week

please someone let me know

[dapper shard]

Just what I heard. That upon receiving offer you might be able to finesse your way into securities but apparently it feels hella fast

[ionic bronze]

read that wrong

[dapper shard]

Hedge funds just seem hella stressful and not fun to work at tbh

[woeful heart]

cries in education loan

[ionic bronze]

what if crypto crashes

[lilac cloak]

^

[dapper shard]

Degenerate

Lmao

[lilac cloak]

2 months

[dapper shard]

Man don’t losing money hurt regardless lmao

I be hurt when I lose $40 at the end of the day

[frail marten]

it's only a paper loss :^)

[dapper shard]

My goal is to be in the green everyday

No matter the market

[lilac cloak]

if we knew the future, we wouldve played perfectly

????

why didnt you just buy them then?

what stopped you?

if you had the money, you wpukdve had the money

idgi

idgi

youre saying you couldve made 1000+% on money in

[abstract wagon]

What do I message the cscareers bot to report intern salary

[lilac cloak]

just use what you have and get the % return value

oml he's trading options

[marsh meadow]

check pinned on intern offers

[lilac cloak]

"what if"

best of luck on your trading endeavors

o7

^^

not rly mad abt palantir tho

uh

this is a v broad ststement

and prob not true

but mistakes are mistakes

[still gazelle]

risk

i like martingale for stocks, not options

ive lost big money tryna martingale options

rate of return is proportional to risk

profitability does matter

usually if a company has limited growth potential, profitability really matters

100m is worth it for the PR

are we really gambling? its apple

if buffet loves apple, i love apple

[torpid totem]

r/wallstreetbets

Can’t go tits up

[thick shore]

yall are crazy about prestiege

lol

also this isnt a stock channel

#stonks

[cyan valley]

lol

[abstract wagon]

@karmic fog does google adjust interview difficulty by year you are in college?

[karmic fog]

no idea

only interviewed with them once

it's definitely possible tho

I also had very little to compare it to when I interviewed so it's hard for me to say what the actual difficulty was

[ivory ether]

anybody apply to the citadel event thing

[fair stratus]

What is it

[tacit halo]

Is google even still hiring?

Some people got rejections

I got ghosted

[thick ridge]

bruh u gotta be fucking kidding

2 days in a row my karat interview has been a no show

[abstract wagon]

fr? lol

[thick ridge]

yeah so dumb

wanted to get it done before school starts monday

and now gotta reschedule again

[abstract wagon]

fuck karat

0 accountability >:c

[thick ridge]

agreed

[abstract wagon]

if there's only 60 min i can expect lc easy right?

[thick ridge]

what

[abstract wagon]

na LOL

u wish

[thick ridge]

I'd say < 10m is lc easy territory

[abstract wagon]

Areas:
Web & browser security
Security of computer networks and protocols
Internals of operating systems
Properties of mobile platforms
Hardware, firmware, and embedded solutions
Development of security-oriented tools and frameworks
Cryptography
Your (60 min) phone interview will focus on the domain-specific knowledge within Security Engineering: 
You can expect a short introduction, general experience questions, and a handful of technical questions.
Thought process questions like “How would you troubleshoot the following problem?” or “What part of security are you interested in working on?” or “Why are you interested in working on Security?”
Experience related questions like “Have you had exposure to certain security related tools?” Always be prepared to speak to all of the experience listed on your resume, and be able to provide examples. If you attended conferences like CTF’s or other security related conferences, feel free to speak about your participation and involvement.
Technical questions focused on your domain expertise, such as questions about your knowledge or exposure of a standard mentioned on your resume (e.g. cryptography, penetration testing, intrusion detection or analysis networking and network security etc.).
General computer science related questions, focusing on simple algorithmic problem solving and basic data structures.
Questions giving you the chance to apply underlying engineering principles to new problems, perhaps problems that you have not directly tackled in your career.

mb im not a security engineer so idk

if they plan on asking everything under the sun for security then i should expect lc easy right?

doesn't even sound like you need to code

at least that was what facebook did

General computer science related questions, focusing on simple algorithmic problem solving and basic data structures.

the recruiter said there would be 1 coding question

so im guessing 20 min coding/40 min drilling with random questions

?

i cant find any info anywhere about security engineer intern

[thick ridge]

na every company says simple ds&a

[abstract wagon]

only for full-time and im pretty sure ft is harder b/c you have taken algs

[thick ridge]

and then slaps u w lc hard

[abstract wagon]

i mean fb said that for their security role and it was lc easy

[twilit mesa]

^

[abstract wagon]

im guessing lc med or easy b/c how would you do lc hard quickly and have time for a bunch of other questions?

[thick ridge]

ask my amazon interviewer

thought 45 mins was good for 2 lc hards

[abstract wagon]

there's really only one way to find out bois

[twilit mesa]

LMAO

[abstract wagon]

i cant find any shit online about it

[twilit mesa]

i got disrespected when i got asked a lc dp hard and then got asked if i knew dp LOL

[abstract wagon]

fulltime is harder than internship right?

i havent taken algs yet

not always

sometimes full time is just more rounds

• sys design

for google?

im just worried it will be like facebook security where i grinded graphs and dp to be asked how to reverse a string

shit ig i will just fail and use this as a data point for when i apply next year

cause i cant find a single interview experience online for security intern

google said they'll ask about my resume
but i forgot what my resume was 8 months ago

for the coding round it is easy
but the next 2 rounds are on code review/general security
im guessing the job is mainly writing codeql queries and fuzzers

[runic tinsel]

Indian interviewer? (I'm Indian before someone says I'm racist)

[abstract wagon]

i only had indian interviewers twice both asked lc easy

[runic tinsel]

I'm trying to collect data points to confirm my hypothesis that indian interviewers fuck other indians up intentially

[mossy swan]

@thick ridge did you apply for Amazon USA?

[runic tinsel]

are you indian?

[abstract wagon]

no im black

[nova inlet]

I just did my first OA for a company and I got completely destroyed I feel like I've been initiated

[vapid condor]

still

0

offer

im so fucked

3rd year too

imagine not being able to find anything till graduation

none

[abstract wagon]

[vapid condor]

no way

for SE and CS?

ic

[abstract wagon]

i dont think its 90 for se cs

[vapid condor]

more like

40

maybe 40 is too high too

[ionic bronze]

I wonder how many actually intern

[vapid condor]

im not comparing myself to every college students tho

but ic ur point

xd

all my friends got offers

im just here

[ionic bronze]

going into college my brother was like "u can make $30/hr+ if u get an internship" and I just grinded from there

[abstract wagon]

頑張って

[vapid condor]

the thing is i didnt know what i wanted to do after uni at year 2

so i didnt care at all

regretted so much

[ionic bronze]

変態

[vapid condor]

wasted a whole 2 years

Who u calling hentai

😠

^

[ionic bronze]

Fr im glad

[abstract wagon]

@vapid condor it's still not too late

[vapid condor]

ya for canada i heard its not too late

[nova inlet]

so uh is it normal to apply for entry level positions and get hackerranks titled 'graduate ... - (master)'? 👀

[vapid condor]

but im getting super anxious

[abstract wagon]

are you US?

[vapid condor]

canada

i mean

[abstract wagon]

yea honestly being from canada fucks you

[ionic bronze]

^^

[vapid condor]

covid at the wrong season

REEEEEEEEEEEE

[sonic badger]

[vapid condor]

would this be any easier if theres no covid

[thick ridge]

being depressed is the #1 motivator

[nova inlet]

I gotta know if it's just there to psych me or if I got fucked

[vapid condor]

u are not wrong

[abstract wagon]

probably a bit easier

[vapid condor]

ic

so its gonna be just as hard

[ionic bronze]

all it takes is one @vapid condor

[abstract wagon]

the problem is the chicken or the egg problem is much stronger for canadians

[vapid condor]

one internship to start with?

[abstract wagon]

how do they get their first job

when theres not many they can apply to

[vapid condor]

companies like IBM are so bless

they give everyone a chance

[abstract wagon]

not everyone is waterloo or uoft

[vapid condor]

but i FUCKED UP my chance so hard

i cry

[ionic bronze]

yees just grab your first and then everything is ez

[thick ridge]

cuz u were a freshman bruh

[vapid condor]

bruh freshmans' getting interviews

what am i doing

[ionic bronze]

comparing urself

[vapid condor]

time to do cliff diving

[ionic bronze]

stahp

[thick ridge]

if I didn't compare myself I wouldn't have the offers i have now

[vapid condor]

k im just tryna grind LC everyday

[thick ridge]

temporary depression -> permanent success

[abstract wagon]

i thought recruiting season was over this is legit stressing me out

temporary

[vapid condor]

k im not the only one stressing

IBM please bless me

[abstract wagon]

[thick ridge]

c1 >> ?

[abstract wagon]

bro thats like

survivor bias though

[vapid condor]

^

[abstract wagon]

pretty sure everyone who bashes on amazon used to be a bezos simp

[twilit mesa]

no one has put anything yet doe

[vapid condor]

lmao

[thick ridge]

can confirm

[twilit mesa]

i got rejected by fb and snap already

pain.

[abstract wagon]

pain.

[ionic bronze]

then u need to do next year internship, ft grind, promotions...

it never stops

[vapid condor]

is fall intern harder to get than summer and spring

[abstract wagon]

yeah

[vapid condor]

F

[abstract wagon]

just do your best

[twilit mesa]

im gonna apply to tsla later

[vapid condor]

the best chance i got rn is from a small startup i interviewed last week and its 4 months

[thick ridge]

bro just get msft swe -> ft -> rest & vest

why u sweating

[vapid condor]

are u a freshman

dont u have

oh

still have

so many years

[abstract wagon]

aite whos going cliff diving with me

[vapid condor]

im going first

u follow

[thick ridge]

only without a parachute

[vapid condor]

wait stop

u have offers

[abstract wagon]

graduation requirement?

[formal finch]

why u need fall 2021?

[thick ridge]

and 4 what

[abstract wagon]

[thick ridge]

dont wanna go back to school?

[formal finch]

u make more money if you graduate early

[abstract wagon]

guys i actually... need waymo....

[thick ridge]

kys

[silk ridge]

graduation requirement?

[formal finch]

guys I just want a decent internship

[abstract wagon]

yeah

[vapid condor]

i need

12 month

but i have

0 under my belt

help

[twilit mesa]

does waymo do fall

[thick ridge]

dafuq

dont want social life?

[formal finch]

money can buy a social life

🤑🤑🤑🤑

[thick ridge]

bro imma bag chaser too

but i cant be alone forever

[abstract wagon]

i can

in my self driving car

[formal finch]

u never alone when you have ppl who are alone to be with

alright I need to sleep that shit didn’t make senses when I was typing it^

[vapid condor]

gn

getting microsoft

already set for life

smh

[formal finch]

honestly if you have a decent group of friends, why do you need to have more of social life right?

[vapid condor]

wait yall have friends?

[nova inlet]

[abstract wagon]

if you have a decent group of friends

[vapid condor]

my guy

[thick ridge]

facts but i'm also over living w parents

[vapid condor]

i dream to get something like urs

but ig ppl have different standards in life

[formal finch]

just do whatever make you happy in the end tbh

[vapid condor]

ye but what if i dont even know what will make me happy

safe to say grinding LC will probably make me happy

xd

[abstract wagon]

id say just take it one step at a time

no internship right now? get your first one

[thick ridge]

but what if internship is remote

[formal finch]

most internships is prob going to be remote anyways

[vapid condor]

how did yall get ur first internships and when did yall get them?

[formal finch]

March before the big shutdown

[vapid condor]

o

march

[abstract wagon]

freshman year spam applying indeed glassdoor linkedin handshake

but im US so it's a little easier

[abstract wagon]

if you dont have internship experience just get internship experience

[vapid condor]

lemme get the

[formal finch]

honestly just do side projects

[abstract wagon]

yeah i mean thats the first step though right?

[thick ridge]

waste of money

[formal finch]

^^^

[abstract wagon]

i got ghosted though

[vapid condor]

what side projects did u do?

[formal finch]

Cold email and rejected next day bro

[abstract wagon]

side projects dont mean shit

[vapid condor]

uh

[formal finch]

Built website that utilized grade distributions that finds the easiest classes at university

[abstract wagon]

[vapid condor]

pog

[formal finch]

I mean it got my internships.

[vapid condor]

i heard javascript was the wae in canada to find a job

but

i didnt learn it

till too late

[abstract wagon]

i know many people who dont have any projects but work at big N
ive never been asked about them

[thick ridge]

bruh lmao

[vapid condor]

i personally was asked about my toy projects on interviews so

uh

i would say they are kinda important?

[abstract wagon]

i got asked about my projects everywhere

[formal finch]

went target schools??

[vapid condor]

@abstract wagon what year are u?

[abstract wagon]

msft was weird i had referral and was called for interview but them they asked OS concepts instead of leetcode

[formal finch]

literally every company that I interviewed always asked about projects

[abstract wagon]

junior now

[vapid condor]

aye

[abstract wagon]

yeah i only know people from target schools really

[formal finch]

yeah that def helps u more than you think lmao

[vapid condor]

US seems sooo different and complicated

[formal finch]

Being from non target, it’s like 10x harder lol

[icy juniper]

^

[formal finch]

I literally was shook when I got Msft final round and Amazon OA

[vapid condor]

its so ez to get into top schools in canada

[formal finch]

it’s based on gpa right?

[vapid condor]

ya

highschool gpa

[abstract wagon]

r u at one 👀

[vapid condor]

was a joke

[abstract wagon]

even my high school friends went to target school
linkedin hurts b/c of it

[formal finch]

I heard a lot of uwaterloo ppl aren’t that smart

[vapid condor]

um

i would say im at top 5 canadian school

[thick ridge]

wloo is a sweatshop

[vapid condor]

for not for my stream

[formal finch]

real question tho

should I graduate early or do another 3 internships after the upcoming summer??

[vapid condor]

@abstract wagon queens pretty op

[formal finch]

I don’t know where exactly I should go

[abstract wagon]

doubt u need 3