2021_summer

[tacit halo]

Far more than 5% of faang employees reach 300k after 5 years

If new grad is 200k, then I’d imagine that probably well over 50% reach 300k after 5-7 years

Senior swe is like 350k

At faang in the Bay Area

[still gazelle]

i dont really find creating things to be that interesting. I find shit like optimization and efficiency to be super cool

[tacit halo]

Do u like hackathons?

[still gazelle]

ive done 3. theyre alright. I just do em to learn

[tacit marsh]

quant is more money

[tacit halo]

By creating, do u mean like Frontend stuff?

[still gazelle]

backend is also creating

[tacit halo]

*quantitative researcher is at top firms

Isn’t quant dev also creating?

Building systems for traders to use

[tacit marsh]

has anyone ever taken classes at a local uni during their internship?

[still gazelle]

well theres a difference

[tacit halo]

Do u mean quantitative researcher, trader, or developer?

[still gazelle]

theres a diff between SWE at quant firm and quant developer

[tacit halo]

So u don’t mean swe, but rather quant dev?

I guess they’re often used interchangeably

In terms of pay, it’s quite mysterious

At the top quant firms

5-7 years out

We definitely know what new grad pay is

And what pay is at lower tier firms like akuna and two sigma (albeit for devs)

For Jane Street, it’s merely speculations

Okay, not lower tier, but not tier 1

It’s tier 2

Tier 1 is Jane Street, hrt, citadel, jump, etc.

Two sigma is a hedge fund. Top places are prop shops

[still gazelle]

im boutta sleep gn

[tacit halo]

The pay is also lower than other places

It’s on par with faang

But what do places like Jane Street pay 5 years out?

Is the median really $2M?

[simple jay]

lol im talking about 7 figs in that timeframe

[tacit halo]

At faang specifically?

Honestly, even 5% sounds optimistic. That’s usually l8/e8 (maybe a really good l7/e7)

From the postings on levels these guys have 15 years of experience at the minimum (30 in some cases)

U can get there much faster by joining the right unicorn or going for quant

If ur goal is 7 figures, there are better ways to get there

L8 is very hard and requires pretty substantial contributions

Even l6 is pretty hard

This for example

38 yoe

So this guy is probably like 60-65

For a swe that’s honestly pretty rare

Getting to those levels at these types of companies is pretty slow

[abstract wagon]

This guy is Jeff Dean

I think there aren't a lot of L8 because the majority retire/create his/her own business

People at that level are either founders or people that will leave the company in a short period

[tacit halo]

No one knows what Jeff dean makes but it’s said to be around 15m a year

If u have the accomplishments of an l8 u could make a lot more money

[tacit halo]

Probably not that much more tho

I actually heard of a story of a google engineer making $3M a year

But it’s super super rare that it literally made the news

Even Jeff dean made his money by joining early

Google stock was worth around $1 when he joined and he probably got about $50k, so that’s how much he probably made. And even then that’s a huge outlier compared to even top performers at google

[abstract wagon]

The most T-Mobile engineer can make is $208k 😦

definitely planning on switching to a big tech company like microsoft or google if i end up working for T-Mobile for a few years

that is, if they offer me a full time position after my internship

[abstract wagon]

Most people in that positions can be c-level at startups or create their own company

But they just don't want the stress

[abstract wagon]

Elaborate? I'm not following. Do you mean those principal engineers and whatnot?

Being a CEO is still a rat race

If you are a director at Google you can have success as a CTO on a smaller startup

But most people don't want to work 24/7

i barely wanna work at all LMAO

[abstract wagon]

Me too lol I want to rest and vest at G or MSFT and then join a high ranked government position in management

[loud raft]

Thank you

[dapper shard]

monkaW Central Intelligence Agency

[abstract wagon]

Fuck HRT oa wasn't automatic lol

I have just coded it at 1 am

probably I have lost this opportunity by being a lazy

[shy kernel]

Is it rude to ask about return offer or conversion rate to interviewers (not final stage)?

[dapper shard]

Your interviewer most likely won’t know tbh

[sinful tinsel]

wut is cp?

[stone tiger]

competitive programming

[ionic bronze]

competitive programming sounds like fun tbh

[lilac cloak]

club penguin

does !process keep track of dates?

[ionic bronze]

ch||icken|| p||oppers||

[abstract wagon]

anyone get responses from shopify yet?

[thorn leaf]

when did yesterday's round of twitter rejects drop? what time approx?

maybe theyll drop today's round of rejects around that same time

[raven sequoia]

did anyone do the OA for alarm.com?

[dapper shard]

looks like most people put theirs in around 9pm

at least 9pm central time for me

[thorn leaf]

i see damn okay so the next purge should be today at around the same time

[torpid wraith]

club penguin god tier

[narrow patrol]

damn. just got rejected from FY21 TAR - EXP at msft?

is that explore?

[thick ridge]

yea

[narrow patrol]

ah i see

eh is what it is

maybe cold email willl work anyway

[loud hollow]

you be farming offers tho

are you a 2nd year wtf

[cyan valley]

^

[warm dust]

bruh why does this keep happening LOL

Amazon final LC hard dp

[sonic badger]

[steep prawn]

twitter hackerank anyone? do they allow fall?

[vivid marsh]

Bruh, I got sent a Hackerrank from twitter, but they sent me a rejection yesterday...

[dapper shard]

ive heard mixed yes and no on this

[dapper shard]

wait

put this in process channel

so everyone knows

[steep prawn]

did you even have a chance to dothe OA at all?

[vivid marsh]

I mean I just got it 10 mins ago

[cobalt raven]

I’ve legit never got asked a dp hard (or a dp at all) over a phone interview so I’m so curious what questions u guys got. Granted I didn’t do many interviews but still 🤔

@stiff vessel

have u gotten asked dp problems in ur years of interviewing

[stiff vessel]

yup yup

but lc med DP at most

[abstract wagon]

ive gotten dp hards but rare

[low epoch]

Damn whoever’s getting dp hard got bad luck

[abstract wagon]

shit

[cobalt raven]

LC medium like coin change type of questions??

I’m saying that I never got dp question but watch karma hit me and only give me dp for new grad

[abstract wagon]

probably not going to happen

dp problems are rarity

[stiff vessel]

dp questions were actually really common for me for my new grad recruitment, they just weren't that difficult

[twilit mesa]

i have the worst luck too then

dp hard on final

pain

[stiff vessel]

and for a lot of them dp would turn the solution from nlogn to O(n) so it wasnt a big optimization anyway

[twilit mesa]

also is twitter’s oa required?

last year it wasn’t

[thorn leaf]

wtf thats so werid, im literally the opposite. i didnt get sent the rejection yesterday but no hackerrank today hm

[cobalt raven]

ohh interesting 🤔🤔🤔

[cobalt raven]

that’s what I thought until I saw all the dp questions in the chat

[abstract wagon]

id say most problems are greedy

[stiff vessel]

i didnt get a single dp question until new grad though

[abstract wagon]

very rare i get dp

[stiff vessel]

i got a lot of bit manip questions last year for some reason

and everything else felt like some iteration of bfs/dfs

[cobalt raven]

smh trading kids

[abstract wagon]

smh trading kids

[stiff vessel]

lool i got bit manip for msft

[cobalt raven]

topo sort goat

[abstract wagon]

why am i not surprised

[cobalt raven]

I’ve gotten asked some kind of a topo sort like at least 10 times

[hushed bluff]

don't you normally go from smth like n^2 to n with dp. Or like exponential to polynomial

nlogn to n seems very weird

[cobalt raven]

rad a freak

[terse torrent]

i really failed

and interview

cuz i havent taken a formal ds course yet

[stiff vessel]

theres generally like an n^2 greedy, nlogn with some sort of sort/set, O(n) with dp

[terse torrent]

i dont know cs theory that well

i aced the lc part

[hushed bluff]

I still can't think of a single dp question like that 😀

[terse torrent]

such a boomer

[abstract wagon]

its ok notmalding

[stiff vessel]

eh well i havent done anything cs related in a few months now so my memory could be failing me

oldhead

[terse torrent]

one of the interviewers was the other one was

[proud shard]

Anyone who got offers from BNY mellon know the difference between NY and NJ salary?

[languid sparrow]

is amazon fully virtual this summer everywhere or is only seattle confirmed virtual

[simple jay]

ime a lot of dp optimizations seem to be the “naive” one lol

it’s like brute force to n^2 with dp to linear with some non trivial algo

[stiff vessel]

i think this was what i was thinking of https://leetcode.com/problems/h-index/

[thick ridge]

does any1 know if you have to compile/run your code in karat interview

[abstract wagon]

yea u do

its kind of like hackerrank pair programming

they have 2-3 test cases and you gotta pass them

[thick ridge]

fuck thats annoying af

[frozen palm]

lul twitter sent me an email saying they were finished hiring then sent me an oa later

[jolly flint]

they mischeduled the automated rejection email

[thick ridge]

didn't twitter say they werent doing OAs earlier this year

[warped dove]

For those who got Amazon Intern Offer 2021, may I ask how long they let you decide to accept/reject the offer ? Thank you.

[humble pendant]

I got three weeks, but that's probably because I got my offer in December and it was close to the holidays. I think the usual length is 2 weeks

[dapper shard]

so is anyone else gonna take this twitter OA seriously

[torpid wraith]

I think I had 3 weeks too

[dapper shard]

or just gonna let it pass?

[abstract wagon]

im gonna go all out

[thorn leaf]

u cant fail an oa if u didnt get it in the first place 😎

[torpid lance]

For the Google phone interviews, if I had one interview where I had time to solve the original question, first followup, then ran out of time to code the 2nd but was able to explain exactly what I'd do, that's still solid right

[cyan valley]

🤔

[torpid lance]

I mean he said what I explained was the optimal solution right at the jump so I think thats okay?

[abstract wagon]

is it ok to tell your interviewer you dont expect to pass but are just doing this to practice so you know how to prepare for next year or does that look bad?

[torpid lance]

If it was me I probably wouldn't mention that

I don't see why you would

Won't change their question or how they conduct the interview I think

[abstract wagon]

do you think google would ask dp for security interview?
people here said facebook would and they were wrong(it ended up being easier than lc easy) but idk where else to ask

[pliant hawk]

1 more 30 mins chat

[torn dagger]

whats this for

[pliant hawk]

HPE, i thought a 2.5 hr interview was final but turns out this is final

[torn dagger]

oop

good luck

[pliant hawk]

ty bruther, im excited and nervous

[rigid solstice]

Lmao twitter classic OA -> ghost -> will contact you soon -> ghost

[abstract wagon]

im hoping i get a @karmic fog @O-giga-chad fizzbuzz from google🤞

otherwise there is no way im passing an interview that requires a masters in cybersecurity

[dapper shard]

idk. google likes to ask dp

[flat vine]

didnt twitter say in previous years "hey so u can do this OA but it wont really affect ur application"

[marsh meadow]

i didnt do oa for two yeras n got response then did it last yr and got ghosted l000l

[twilit mesa]

yea that’s what they said before lol

did it last year got rejected and ppl who didn’t do it moved forward

pain.

[marsh meadow]

its like a psych test

those who are desperate will do it

[dapper shard]

so what im seeing is

just don't worry about it

[marsh meadow]

so the upper class of applicants who dont have to bother to waste their time to do it

should get the responses 🧠

no twitters process is a sh*tshow when I went there in 2017 they had a tiny recruiting team for thousands of people

[dapper shard]

all i know is

if i get interview

imma kill that shit

but im surprised their process is so bad tbh

would think it is better for a company their size

[marsh meadow]

the interview is random

wasnt technical

it was basically if their manager liked u

[dapper shard]

i think first flight program is more standardized

[marsh meadow]

the way u get the interview is a manager pulls u from the stack

[twilit mesa]

so it was oa (maybe) -> final interview?

[dapper shard]

i saw on glassdoor that first flight program's interview day went: three rounds, each 30 mins. two technical rounds and one behavioral round

[marsh meadow]

yeah

but if you didnt do oa

[tulip coyote]

anyone got any tips on what to study?

[marsh meadow]

they just flew u out to onsite lmaooooo

its such a bad process

[tulip coyote]

do I just mindlessly leetcode

[twilit mesa]

o damn

and then onsite was basically random it could either both behavioral or technical right

[marsh meadow]

yeah

some people got asked two technical questions in their interviews

some got none

depends on the manager and the other interviewing person

it was super frustrating for me

they just asked me stuff about my resume

and I told them and explained everything I could

but I got ghosted after

was super frustrating bc I didnt know what I couldve done better

[runic tinsel]

anyone here not hear back from twitter, even for a rejection?

[pliant hawk]

me

ghost city

[silk vigil]

How long should I wait after cold emailing recruiter before assuming I'm just ghosted?

[pliant hawk]

i wait a week

[silk vigil]

Should I try emailing other recruiters at the same company for the mean time or should I just wait it out?

[thick ridge]

numbers game

find more recruiters

[abstract wagon]

2 days

[nova knoll]

Portal updates Monday and Wednesday for most

[sinful tinsel]

For fbu?

[sinful tinsel]

For swe or step?

[dapper shard]

swe

[sinful tinsel]

Ah

[abstract wagon]

security intern

[eager valve]

anyone that did Amazon SDE final did u get easy, medium, or hard?

[thorny gorge]

its rng from what ive heard

[eager valve]

wish me luck bro

[real nacelle]

it is very rng but just be confident and make sure you talk through the problem

[eager valve]

any other tips?

t-14 hours lmao

[vagrant lark]

you got 1 round or 3 rounds?

[eager valve]

1 round

[real nacelle]

Have a good few stories in mind so you can relate them to LP

[vagrant lark]

no worries then, almost like you secured the offer

[eager valve]

idk man

gotta pass the technical

[eager valve]

for sure

[silk swallow]

same

[eager valve]

u have it at 9am pst tomorrow?

[silk swallow]

The slot after I think

[eager valve]

good luck bro

ig ill just go over leetocde problems till i fall asleep

[silk swallow]

gl 🙏

[real nacelle]

@eager valve how much prep have you done for the problems

I probably did the top amazon list but my stuff still was super rng

but hopefully my behavioral can carry a brute force technical

[eager valve]

I did a good amount, how much of the top amazon list did u do?

[real nacelle]

crammed way too much in past two weeks

which didnt help too much lmao

[eager valve]

fr?

damn

I was gonna cram tonight

what topic was ur question? like dfs, graphs, dp

[silk swallow]

im hoping all the graph questions pay off lol

[sinful oar]

https://careers.warnermediagroup.com/TGnewUI/Search/home/HomeWithPreLoad?partnerid=391&siteid=36&PageType=JobDetails&jobid=864848 Virtual HBOMax Accessibility Intern, Summer 2021 (front end intern)

companies who uses IBM careers portal make me want to fight

[muted leaf]

i dont like worrkday the most

[rare olive]

Are we supposed keep your camera on for Amazon OA 1 ?

ty man !!

Just to be double sure, you sure about this right ? Anyone who gave Amazon oa1 recently can you guys confirm if they are monitored via camera ?

[cyan valley]

Whats the diff between

Internship and co -op

or are the things over the fall just called co -op?

[nova knoll]

Co-op typically means u are going to school at same time and get credit from university with some having programs set up for that

[silk swallow]

probably not, they dont even schedule earlier for offer deadlines

[rare olive]

Oa 2 requires camera ??

[eager valve]

also quick tip

even if u cant get the camera to recognize ur face/id just move forward

hasnt given me any problems, camera didnt recognize on any of them

[torpid wraith]

@eager valve 1 easy 1 medium

[eager valve]

should I even bother doing the brute force then?

or just jump straight into optimal if I know it

[torpid wraith]

idk tbh. i start with brute force and then optimize

[eager valve]

ty

[obtuse otter]

are there any remote companies that DON'T localize pay?

[stone tiger]

for intern?

oracle

[obtuse otter]

oh nah for ft

[simple jay]

reddit

citadel

[tacit halo]

Just gonna say, this server has nearly 700k messages in it

[split fractal]

How do you check that

[tacit halo]

just picked a random data and searched before

this server was created in april 2020 so i picked a random date in 2019

also, if ur on mobile, just type a space into the search bar and search for that. it will return every message

[split fractal]

icic

[tacit halo]

i've personally sent 7607 messages?

[abstract wagon]

u got square interview?

[sacred glade]

why tf is amazon sending OA1 now

most summer internships are already closed

[tacit halo]

Not true

Plenty of big companies recruit into March

It’s still active recruiting season

Startups are open all year

Amazon recruits like into may

@fast dagger u can see just by searching ur username

30835

now ive sent 7687

[sacred glade]

oh okay

i already accepted an offer but like i rlly want amzn internship too dammit

[eager valve]

amazon would be sick

[tacit halo]

theres always a chance

[eager valve]

do u guys recommend sleeping or grinding tonight?

[tacit halo]

do u have an interview tomorrow?

[eager valve]

9am pst

[tacit halo]

always put ur heatlh first

[abstract wagon]

oof recruiter said i need to know dp

kind of dont want to study

[tacit halo]

company?

[abstract wagon]

google

[eager valve]

do u think I will get DP on amazon?

[abstract wagon]

i already have offer and wrapped up interviews

[tacit halo]

which program?

[eager valve]

OA had dp

[abstract wagon]

security intern

[eager valve]

tyty

[split fractal]

I feel like I will literally never stop interviewing

[still gazelle]

how many applications yall at bois?

[abstract wagon]

everytime i think im done i get another interview

literally not even well spaced out

[abstract wagon]

idk lost count after 10
300 i think but after i got offer i stopped applying and withdrew a lot of apps

[still gazelle]

damn boi

u hustlin

also how are hirevues like.

like how long

im debating whether to do it or not

[ionic bronze]

it depends on the company

[still gazelle]

aw god

whats the longest uve had

[ionic bronze]

can be like two technical questions from JPMC

Or fucking 8 behaviorals from BP

I fucking hated that hirevue

God I hate BP for giving that as a fucking hireview interview

[still gazelle]

holy shit

8 fucking behaviorals?

who do you think i am? a business major?

[ionic bronze]

Yeah wtf

It was for a SWE position

^^ fr

I hate hireview, pyrmetrics, etc

Oa's I can deal with tho

I still don't understand the point of pyrmetrics lmao

It feels so useless and I feel like it's difficult to get any useful data from their stupid tests

[tacit halo]

Pymetrics is a good thing

It allows them to make unbiased decisions

The test was developed by data scientists, neurologists, and statisticians and it determines which roles u match with best

[sinful tinsel]

Amazon swe?

[tacit halo]

They take the top 50 performers for each role and have them take the test and then match people base on that

There’s a lot of research on it

[tacit halo]

I think they do

[lilac cloak]

o wtf amzn recruiting into may

[tacit halo]

At least into March

But last year they were recruiting into may

[cyan valley]

Any1 take flexport OA???

[split fractal]

yep

generalist type multiple choice questions

low level, high level everything

kinda hard if you're not an active developer tbh

no actual coding, just questions you would know the answer to with experience

[cyan valley]

@split fractal ok ty ty

[flat vine]

triplebyte

[cyan valley]

whats triplebyte

@split fractal what's the process

after tht

[still gazelle]

why does every single job on linkedin

have like at least 400 applicants

i saw an unpaid one with like 250 applicants

[cyan valley]

Lol, 400?

More like 4k

And then the apps close

[lilac cloak]

this was my understanding

[lilac cloak]

huh wtf

most of the jobs i see thru linkedin just tell me to apply on the company's site

[cyan valley]

^

[lilac cloak]

and the 'apply' button just redirects to the application

[cyan valley]

it still tracks

how many apply

[lilac cloak]

i see

but yeah like

'facebook has an intern app;

p sure most ppl did not go off of linkedin to get there

[still gazelle]

man

i sent like 28 applications today

time to get 20 ghosts and 8 rejections

[cyan valley]

^LOL

[tacit halo]

@thin scroll they’re still hiring for robotics twitch audible and more niche roles like aws

Amazon is too big to not hire

Can you hire me?

[tacit halo]

*correction 19 ghosts, 7 rejections, 2 offers

[still gazelle]

i hope so 😦

i just want 1 offer

but grad date keeps fuckin me over

[loud hollow]

what class r u

[still gazelle]

24

[tacit halo]

U can’t put 23?

If u have sufficient credits?

[still gazelle]

im 2024 on my unofficial transcript

even with 47 credits

[pliant hawk]

its ur first year dawg dont be too hard on yourself

[still gazelle]

i just want a few chances to show my leetcode skills

[pliant hawk]

do they not send any OAs?

[still gazelle]

no bro thats the problem 😦

its not like im applying to faang

im literally applying to noname companies that pay like $15-20/hr

im just frustrated because out of all this applying nothing has came out of it

not even interviews

[tacit halo]

Wouldn’t say faang is out of the question

But yeah, for pretty much any big company, having freshman on ur resume is gonna hurt a lot

@still gazelle how many cold emails have u sent?

[lethal ore]

Don’t worry, most no name take in sophomores or above

[cyan valley]

@still gazelle that sucks bro

u can get into some as a sohmore

15 an hr

im su re

if u try hard

[lethal ore]

Just find a small company through connections

I almost (COVID came then and it got canceled) got one in freshman year due to connections

[tacit halo]

The thing is, we can’t assume everyone has connections. Connections in that sense really just means privilege

On the other hand, to broaden the definition of connections, u can reach out to alumni, or just anyone on LinkedIn

[lethal ore]

The guy who helped me didn’t really know me too well

[tacit halo]

Just give a reason and it’s doable

[tacit halo]

Alumni?

Randomly reached out?

[lethal ore]

It was actually more of a referral lol

[tacit halo]

How did u find him?

[lethal ore]

Linkedln

[cyan valley]

Dang

Im sure he got some sort

of bonus

most people dont mind handing out referral

cuz there are bonus attached sometimes

[lethal ore]

It got cancelled though

[nimble flax]

lowkey feel like i choked my interview today

i focused too hard on leetcode and didnt practice personal questions enough

[eager valve]

im also 2024

sent like 110 apps so far

and im sitting on like 6 interviews

[nimble flax]

2024 gang

[pliant hawk]

Suddenly I feel old

[dusty vine]

same

Wtf

goddamn i’m a fucking boomer

also as a fresh/even soph i dont think i even knew what an internship really was lmaoooo i was so far from this world

[noble anvil]

For amazon interview what's the difference between the chime ID and livecode link

[still gazelle]

where at

like the interviews

[stoic pulsar]

you can assume one will be for a call and one for peer coding

[muted leaf]

me still interviewing even if i already accepted offer is up to me right

[eager valve]

I wish ya luck, where was it?

[eager valve]

Amazon, coursera, Bloomberg, T-mobile google step, Microsoft explore, nvidia immersion

If I’m remembering correctly

Had most of them recently

[still gazelle]

r u an URM? hate to ask but these programs target them

[eager valve]

Yeah

[still gazelle]

immersion does too

good shit tho still bro

[abstract wagon]

square is top tier

[tacit halo]

I think discord permanently deletes all deleted messages

I learned this the hard way

Was trying to recover a deleted conversation, but they said it’s permanently wiped off their servers

[still gazelle]

@eager valve have u had any luck with non freshman programs

[eager valve]

The first 4 I listed are non freshman programs

[still gazelle]

oh shit

beast mode

[eager valve]

Still waiting on results from most of my interviews though

[still gazelle]

gl bro

[eager valve]

I really just want Amazon though lmao

Ty

[still gazelle]

amazon as a freshman would be nutty

[eager valve]

Yeah

Hope I don’t get a lc hard

[tacit halo]

Did u apply to any freshman programs?

[obtuse otter]

amazon is dirty

[tacit halo]

For Dropbox launch, one of the requirements is no previous swe experience

[obtuse otter]

asking two sum then lc hards is crazy

[tacit halo]

I agree

Could agree more

Monopoly

[eager valve]

Yeah I can’t believe the interview is so rng

Like it’s basically decided before I even take it

[still gazelle]

wanna hear a funny story ALexL?

ive hit the submit button for dropbox launch over 10 times

it finally worked today

[obtuse otter]

deadass

i failed my amazon interview and i got slightly harder two sum so I can’t talk lmfao

[still gazelle]

LMAO

freshman farmer

[eager valve]

That was back b4 u glowed up though

[abstract wagon]

like freshman hunter bro

[still gazelle]

im that one senior in hs who just hits on freshman girls

[obtuse otter]

that’s finna be me 😈

[eager valve]

I knew a guy that was 18 w/ a 14 year old gf

[tacit halo]

Don’t worry. U have much much better opportunities lined up

[eager valve]

Pretty sure they are still dating

[tacit halo]

That’s me too!

[obtuse otter]

yo?

[still gazelle]

wait

[tacit halo]

Yep

[still gazelle]

u srs?

[abstract wagon]

911

[tacit halo]

Okay not actually

[abstract wagon]

we got him

[eager valve]

Romeo and Juliet laws only allow like 3 years

[tacit halo]

But I matched with someone who’s a full year younger on tinder

[still gazelle]

im chris hansen from dateline NBC. why dont u have a seat

[tacit halo]

Age gaps start mattering less with age

[eager valve]

U guys watch the new Chris Jansen to catch a predator

He made a YouTube series

[tacit halo]

My grandparents are 13 years apart

[abstract wagon]

na idk him

i hate predators

[eager valve]

🚸

[tacit halo]

I like pewdiepie

[abstract wagon]

goofy ass men trying to scheme on lil girls

or boys

[eager valve]

Down bad

[tacit halo]

Chris Janson?

[eager valve]

Hansen

Mb

Jansen looks like someone they would find on the show though

[tacit halo]

Looks sinister to me

[eager valve]

Wait why does he have a mugshot

[abstract wagon]

Not a pog

[tacit halo]

What about an 18 year old with a 22 year old?

[abstract wagon]

Pog

Absolutely pog

[tacit halo]

Eventually 4 years becomes meaningless

[abstract wagon]

I mean after you are mature enough, age doesn't matter imo

[tacit halo]

Whether ur mature enough at 18 is another question

[abstract wagon]

Yes lol

[tacit halo]

It’s been said that u aren’t truly mature until ur 25

[abstract wagon]

14 is a kid

[tacit halo]

Even 18 is a kid

[abstract wagon]

18 is physically adult and probably mentally capable

There are even 35 that are mentally kid

[tacit halo]

In terms of making big decisions, probably not

Most 18 year olds are dependent on their parents these days

[abstract wagon]

I wasn't talking about that

14 is barely in high school, 18 could be everything but at least is not calling teacher "mom"

[eager valve]

I called my teacher mom once

[tacit halo]

Well, my take is that most relationships at that age aren’t truly serious (meaning there’s no real emotional connection)

[eager valve]

4th grade though

[tacit halo]

I once called my grandmother mom

I was probably like 3 years old tho

[muted leaf]

uh

[eager valve]

I wish I could remember stuff that early

Earliest I remember is preschool

There was this dude that would always follow and touch me

And both are parents thought we were friends

Wait not an adult

[abstract wagon]

[eager valve]

So they would make us hangout outside of school too

[abstract wagon]

[eager valve]

I wonder where he is now

Lmaooo

[abstract wagon]

In jail probably

[eager valve]

Rip

He was very very handsy

[abstract wagon]

#howibecameabully

We only know abiotic version

Maybe the other guy is good

[eager valve]

I’m pretty sure we still have pictures together

And even on the pictures he is hugging me

[abstract wagon]

d o u b t

[eager valve]

There was nothing wrong with him besides the touching thing

[abstract wagon]

Plot twist: the other guy wasn't an adult but abiotic is

[eager valve]

Maybe his parents were just very affectionate

[eager valve]

XD

[abstract wagon]

peepojail

[eager valve]

What server is peepojail from

[abstract wagon]

Kids are really handsy in general

[eager valve]

I like peepo better

[tacit halo]

Honestly a 3 year olds actions really mean nothing

When I was 3... well let’s not talk about it

[eager valve]

What’d u do

[tacit halo]

I was very hyper

And affectionate

[abstract wagon]

Literally Kanye West

[eager valve]

Wait

Were u the guy

Are you Asian?

[tacit halo]

Half indian

[eager valve]

Hmm nvm

[tacit halo]

Half Caucasian

[eager valve]

Cock Asian

[abstract wagon]

if some kid touched me in elementary 👊

[tacit halo]

When I was 3 I had my first kiss

[eager valve]

With the janitor

gg

[tacit halo]

I kissed my mom on the lips

[eager valve]

Oh I think I did too

Pretty sure everyone does

[abstract wagon]

aite im out before this gets weird

[eager valve]

I should probably go study

[tacit halo]

Yeah it’s probably normal

[eager valve]

2 hours left fck

[tacit halo]

Same here

Gotta prepare for my akuna final

[eager valve]

Good luck bro

[tacit halo]

Thanks

Let’s not let this get weird

It’s 7am here

[eager valve]

10 am 4 me

[tacit halo]

Probably gonna sleep for like 4 hours and then go into study mode

I rarely sleep at night

[still gazelle]

god dammit my jumpstart profile page has me listed as black...

[muted leaf]

are you not or

[still gazelle]

yea... im south asian. i think i applied to a few jobs with that information..

[obtuse otter]

south asian is close enough to africa

idt its a big deal btw, race democraphics are anonymous

its like for bookkeeping or smnthg

[lilac cloak]

anyone know if roblox's summer positions will allow you to push to the fall?

[eager valve]

my amazon interviewer seemed pretty happy with my LP and I solved the coding problem but needed his help a bit

good or bad?

[lilac cloak]

tbd by them

am not amzn recruiter

[odd kraken]

nope

i would say in general, most companies will not let you do that
but i did ask the recruiters in december and they said no, roblox doesn't have a fall internship program

[lilac cloak]

i see

that is unfortunate

[eager valve]

mostly just a cope question to calm my nerves

[muted leaf]

then are there specific copmanies that allow you to move to fall?

[loud hollow]

snap, facebook, robinhood

are a few that come to mind

[buoyant ledge]

snap isnt opening fall reqs

@lament fjord

but theyll move summer internships -> fall

[abstract wagon]

I think they are done

[buoyant ledge]

summer has been closed for like 3 months... LOL

[noble anvil]

soo uhh anyone have experience with their Amazon interviewer not showing up lmao

[restive falcon]

rly

what changed

[thick ridge]

for those of you who interviewed at snap, did ya'll just cold apply?

[lilac cloak]

should contact ASP

[thick ridge]

c1 recruiters are legit goated

[dapper shard]

yeah c1 recruiters are real ones tbh

[eager valve]

mine was a bit late

did ur interview start at 4?

[thorny gorge]

whats c1's interview like

[dapper shard]

three interviews in one day

case study, technical, behavioral

all one hour each

[thorny gorge]

someone said it waS easy

it does not look easy

[thick ridge]

nah just cuz its long doesn't mean its hard

[thorny gorge]

oh i c

[thick ridge]

it's pretty laid back imo

[thorny gorge]

whats the technical portion

lc meds?

[thick ridge]

easy/meds

[thorny gorge]

gotcha

i apply next yr

[frozen palm]

amazon put my interview date in the portal but didnt email me about it

wack

[thick ridge]

yeah happened to me too

you'll get an email day of w/ the link most likely

[dapper shard]

capital one interview is pretty easy to prep for

[eager valve]

thats a very good sign I heard

[still gazelle]

howd u get rejected twice

different seasons?

[raven sequoia]

Just wondering if anyone got any update from URBN after the hirevue.

[tardy minnow]

what are the chances of getting an amazon offer after final? I’m going off some selection bias fs but it seems like everyone is getting offers lol.

[thick ridge]

amazon and amazon subsidiary

got rejected from zoox + amazon to be specific

[tardy minnow]

T-18 hrs till my final

[narrow patrol]

gl

[narrow patrol]

amazon reject after final here 👋

the consensus seems to be if you are reasonably lucky and good at LC then you get offer

if you are unlucky or not good at LC you are probably fucked but you might get lucky anyway

[tardy minnow]

what do you think resulted in you not getting an offer?

[narrow patrol]

i am not good at LC

lol

and luckily for me i got a question on trees, which is my weakness one of my many weaknesses

[tardy minnow]

rip that’s my weakness too

[narrow patrol]

hmm

i would study trees as much as possible before tmrw

amazon asks about them a lot if im not mistaken

[still gazelle]

pain bro 😦

[still gazelle]

theres only one type of tree im studying 😈

[tardy minnow]

got apple on Tuesday too I’m fucked lol

[narrow patrol]

pog dude u must have a sweet reusme

[tardy minnow]

Did you think you did good on the LP questions?

[narrow patrol]

decent yeah, but i didn't solve eithero f the 2 LC mediums i got so thats why i didnt get hte offer

my guy was super nice and tryna help me out too

[obtuse otter]

@eager valve if only u saw this yesterday

[narrow patrol]

i think if i solved 1 he would have given me offer tbh

[tardy minnow]

Oh damn what type of question was the other one?

[thorny gorge]

[tacit halo]

So u can apply to other roles at amazon if u got rejected?

From SDE

Can u do subsidiaries and other more specific swe roles if u got rejected from SDE?

[ashen needle]

I havent been in here in a minute

is everyone still in this thing?

[buoyant ledge]

i meant that theyre still gonna have fall interns, its just that i dont think theyre gonna make it public

hold on lemme get the sentence my recruiter said

we were waiting to see if we should open the fall intern req but decided to keep moving forward with our usual summer one

[dapper shard]

imagine having a snapchat recruiter

[loud hollow]

imagine they said lets connect on linkedin but they never connect

[soft ocean]

gah dayum

[eager valve]

Fr bro

I was legit more prepared for DP than I was for trees

[ashen needle]

anyone here done MLH?

[thick ridge]

twitch and zoox do recruiting separately

it's not through amazon's pipeline

different process

[tacit halo]

If it’s not public, how do u find out about it?

Does contacting recruiters work?

[ionic bronze]

@buoyant ledge do u kno how many summer interns there are?

[buoyant ledge]

i had a summer offer a few months back and i just asked to push to fall

[ionic bronze]

I know it's ~20 for fall and spring

[buoyant ledge]

idk i never asked.

[loud hollow]

lyptea u should do oracle

to reneg

for summer

[raven sequoia]

I have my first ever phone screen next week, and it's scheduled for 20 minutes.
What can I expect and how can I prepare for it??

[thick ridge]

is it technical

[raven sequoia]

It's with the recruiter, so I'm guessing not?

[thick ridge]

then it'll just be why company/tell me about yourself

don't sweat just be a normal person

[raven sequoia]

Ah okay, thanks 🙂

[still gazelle]

@cyan valley ok so how do u finesse on handshake

i just made an accoutn

[ancient flower]

Has cold emailing gotten anyone past hr/resume screens at faang

Or even big n?

[cyan valley]

@still gazelle set up ur acc

legit copy paste ur linkedin

[still gazelle]

ye

[cyan valley]

search

internship

and spam app

[still gazelle]

bruh rly

[cyan valley]

it redirects u

[still gazelle]

why is handshake lit

[cyan valley]

to their website

[still gazelle]

whys it different

[cyan valley]

but u can go back to handshake

and say

"i applied"

I straight up got a

personal email from tiktok with referal

LMFAO

[still gazelle]

WAIT WHAT

WHAT

[cyan valley]

no cap

[still gazelle]

so do u email them?

[cyan valley]

no

i got it cuz i applied via handshake im p sure

akuna got back to me cuz of handshake im p sure

expedia 2

it just helps not getting ghosted

[still gazelle]

WOAHHH

so like

before u submit the application

on their site

u say u applied

and get the referral code right

then u actually submit it

[timber solar]

Anyone know any recruiters that are actively hiring for Summer '21 please Dm me.

[low epoch]

wtf applying on handshake gets u a referral code you can use on their actual app???

handshake lets goooooooo

[eager valve]

so many people got that email

idt the referral code they give you means much?

[abstract wagon]

it doesnt

[pliant hawk]

Handshake is where I got my first offer

[abstract wagon]

:peepog:

[cyan valley]

@pliant hawk dope where?

[pliant hawk]

Kohls in Milpitas SWE intern

[cyan valley]

@pliant hawk Oh shit bro

I saw that listing

they ghosted me

Nice man

[abstract wagon]

@cyan valley

😈

[cyan valley]

@abstract wagon O ITS A XOR

IM STUPID

RIGHT?

[abstract wagon]

what

na

i dont think XOR works here

[cyan valley]

o

@abstract wagon Does .count for a unordered map take o(n)

or is it more than that

[pliant hawk]

Did you not get an OA?

[cyan valley]

@pliant hawk don't think so

[abstract wagon]

.count is O(1)

[cyan valley]

or I forgot to apply

.count is o1?

how

[pliant hawk]

I did the OA but they ghosted me so I contacted recruiter and got final interview

[abstract wagon]

.count(key_val)

[cyan valley]

LOL?

POG

@abstract wagon For ur solution is what is the >

[abstract wagon]

should just count number of items w that key val

greater than?

unordered_set<int>... just converts the vector into an unordered set

[thick ridge]

c++ 1-liner

[abstract wagon]

if we have more elements in our vector than that set then for sure we have duplicates

[cyan valley]

O

[abstract wagon]

works for this problem, normally i hate 1-liners bcz they're usually ass

[cyan valley]

u just checkin

if its greater than

[abstract wagon]

yep

if the number of elements in vector is greater than the number of unique elements in that vector

[cyan valley]

p o g

[abstract wagon]

yours is good too but

i would recommend unordered_set over unordered_map since you're not actually using the values

[cyan valley]

what is the diff?

[abstract wagon]

which means you're doubling the space for no reason

[cyan valley]

map has key value, and set is just keys?

[abstract wagon]

unordered_set<int> is just one int per object

unordered_map<int,int> is 2 ints per object

[cyan valley]

o

i got u

so u add it to the set

and then u can just do

.count of (set)

to see if its already there

[abstract wagon]

its like the same exact thing yep

[cyan valley]

oooooo got u got u

ty ty

ill do 1 more problem

2 a day 🤣 blind75

[abstract wagon]

btw XOR doesn't work here because there can be more than one duplicate

its sometimes helpful for other problems though

[thick ridge]

XOR only works for even numbered dupes iirc

[abstract wagon]

ya

[still gazelle]

return len(set(nums)) < len(nums)

man shits so easy in python

i should PROBABLY make the switch to c++ but im so lazy

[thick ridge]

do it

it's worth 100% trust

[still gazelle]

how so

[pliant hawk]

I went from c++ to python lmao

Never going back

[thick ridge]

python is a fake language

[still gazelle]

i went from java -> python

[pliant hawk]

Python is for leetcode engineers

[abstract wagon]

it doesn't hurt to use python

[still gazelle]

im actually kinda glad im doing python first

[thick ridge]

i only use python when it's a hella quick python solution

i went from java ->python -> c++

[still gazelle]

i spend more time working on the logic than the actual quirks of c++

[thick ridge]

for leetcode atleast

[abstract wagon]

i went from c++ -> c++

[still gazelle]

chad

[pliant hawk]

I still don’t know how maps work on c++ or hash tables

[abstract wagon]

na I actually used python freshman year

wasn't a huge fan

[still gazelle]

fake chad

[abstract wagon]

every now and then when I interview I always get

"oh wow if you know c++ dw you can learn ANYTHING"

[still gazelle]

hahahahahah

thats so true

[pliant hawk]

Happy that my cc taught intro in c++

[still gazelle]

c++ is like 3 different languages

[abstract wagon]

you can think of c++ as four

[still gazelle]

which are the various parts

[abstract wagon]

c++ is c, templating c++, oop c++, and stl

[still gazelle]

oop c++ is something else man

fucking rule of three

[abstract wagon]

5

[still gazelle]

im learning rule of 5 rn

but last sem i learned rule of three

so aids

like we had to make our own string class using c-strings

and make a big numbers library with it

[torn dagger]

u learn about move semantics?

i was talkin with an interviewer about it and he told me that most people he's worked with have never heard of it lol

[still gazelle]

im a freshman so

i might learn it sooner or later

[torn dagger]

ah

[still gazelle]

either way

i wanna be a c++ wizard

that language is cool as fuck

[abstract wagon]

u need move semantics for threading so yea

[abstract wagon]

probably not a c++ company l0l

[torn dagger]

the role was C++/Python Dev 😂

[still gazelle]

🤣

[torn dagger]

im out here spending 3 hours trying to prove a recurrence relation

[still gazelle]

you get to appreciate the ugliness

for its personality

[abstract wagon]

i put hot sauce on veggies

idk what i was thinking

im dying

[still gazelle]

i always do that

[torn dagger]

i eat steak with ketchup

yall should try banana ketchup

good stuff

[thick ridge]

im taking an ocaml class this semester 😎

[dapper shard]

shut up

[sinful tinsel]

Are quant interns mainly targeting seniors?

[thick ridge]

jane street here i come

[abstract wagon]

not even capping you got a shot

aren't you like, a freshman?

[thick ridge]

bro don't cap with me im so fuckin dumb

im a soph

[still gazelle]

doesnt jane street say they dont want u to use OCaml during interviews?

[abstract wagon]

me too relax

yeah next year junior with good internships and high gpa i legit think you got a shot

[still gazelle]

man if yall are dumb im fucking patrick

[thick ridge]

atleast ur dumb + 700 LC

lol

[abstract wagon]

im at 770 now

LOL

[still gazelle]

jesus

and dont u solve every problem 10x?

[thick ridge]

werent u at 730 like 2 days ago

u monster

[abstract wagon]

i have nothing to do

[still gazelle]

LMAO

I FEEL THAT

[abstract wagon]

besides cry about no twitter phone after 100% OA

[still gazelle]

i sent out like 20 applications today + solved 10 leetcode problems

[dapper shard]

i played osu

[loud hollow]

magic kirb what are u gonna do after u finish all of then

[abstract wagon]

we need a peepo osu react

[dapper shard]

wait you 100% that OA....

[still gazelle]

hes gonna start doing all the problems on codeforces

thats gonna take him a few years

[abstract wagon]

100% with like 20 minutes left yeah

[loud hollow]

😔🤌🏼

[dapper shard]

wait isn't magic kirb chad though

[still gazelle]

...

[abstract wagon]

i do codeforces i just don't do it that much

[dapper shard]

okay

enough said

[pliant hawk]

what the fuck

[loud hollow]

magic kirb can u take me under your wing

[pliant hawk]

how long have u been leetcoding sheesh

[abstract wagon]

freshman year

[loud hollow]

[dapper shard]

that just

doesn't sound fun

[abstract wagon]

after i learned what a for loop was

[pliant hawk]

and ur a junior now?

[abstract wagon]

yeah

[pliant hawk]

holy shit

seems doable but still teh consistency

respect

[loud hollow]

take me as a student 😡 magic kirb

[abstract wagon]

im not THAT consistent but I try

[loud hollow]

[abstract wagon]

like sometimes I take 1-2 week breaks

to binge a show or something

[dapper shard]

i take 4-6 weeks breaks

[pliant hawk]

ive taken a 2 month break since my offer

[still gazelle]

its not really worth taking a break during interbiew season

unless u get an offer

it takes too long to get back the muscle memory

[loud hollow]

when is primetime to start leetcoding again