i think the poor will massacre everyone eventually
#2021_summer
abstract wagon
tacit halo
And they’ve been overvalued for decades
narrow patrol
no cuz companies profit more than we earn
yea but they are overvalued
by like 3-15x+
tacit halo
They’ve only gone up
terse torrent
lol
abstract wagon
@terse torrent are you malding
narrow patrol
most tech companies are way overvalued lol..
tacit halo
It’s not gonna go down drastically
patent sluice
i mean software engineering is always going to be paid well above average, but i don't know what's going to keep swe salaries insanely high for new grad vs like mech e or something
tacit halo
And they’ll remain overvalued
muted leaf
twitter rejection not yet?
narrow patrol
doordash is absolutely not worth 60B
dapper shard
top tier talent is hard to find lmao. even out of people in THIS server we still have some that struggle with leetcode. not that it correlates directly to SWE work, but companies pay top tier new grad for talent in SWE because it is HARD to find good engineers
tacit halo
The market has only gone up over the past decade
tacit halo
doordash is absolutely not worth 60B
It is
vivid lintel
Nah it'll continue to be around, but supply of CS majors will make it tougher to get those jobs over time
narrow patrol
Nah it'll continue to be around, but supply of CS majors will make it tougher to...
i mean im not worried about getting in at entry level since i will get in in next 2 years
more worried about experienced swe salaries in 10 years
tacit halo
Companies will pay this much for top talent
muted leaf
who has last name starting with A, let us know asap when twitter rejection comes out
dapper shard
here is when the pay might start to dip
muted leaf
gotta get my heart ready
tacit halo
more worried about experienced swe salaries in 10 years
They’ll be higher than they are now
patent sluice
wait wrong person
tacit halo
when your AVERAGE cs major is doing leetcode
That just won’t happen
dapper shard
That just won’t happen
exactly
loud hollow
r we the average cs student 
narrow patrol
when your AVERAGE cs major is doing leetcode
true ig, most companies still dont ask LC tbh
tacit halo
how is doordash worth that much
Because the market says it is
narrow patrol
r we the average cs student <:floosh:775048367969402880>
fuck nah
nova knoll
Doordash dominates suburbs which is most of America but idk about 60B
vivid lintel
more worried about experienced swe salaries in 10 years
Ehh finding experienced hires is even harder than finding new grads lol
dapper shard
honestly
loud hollow
or are we sweats
tacit halo
Look, amazon has been overvalued for decades
lethal ore
How any percent of cs majors even do leetcode lol?
dapper shard
not to flex the server
tacit halo
People are dependent on DoorDash
dapper shard
but this server is goated asf
narrow patrol
this server is top 5% easy
lethal ore
^
patent sluice
ok ladies we don't believe in efficient market hypothesis in this server
tacit halo
Yes this server is top 3-10% of talent
dapper shard
like this server has people in CS that just aint normal tbh
lethal ore
We got the smartest people here
terse torrent
Ehh finding experienced hires is even harder than finding new grads lol
ya when all the companies rescinded internships / new grad hiring freeze i saw a bunch of senior swe postings stlil up
dapper shard
like the quant chads for example
narrow patrol
i have seen more quant ppl in here than anywhere lol
tacit halo
ok ladies we don't believe in efficient market hypothesis in this server
The efficient market hypothesis is in the name
dapper shard
people getting google soph year
tacit halo
A hypothesis
loud hollow
like magic krib
vivid lintel
ok ladies we don't believe in efficient market hypothesis in this server
I mean efficient market never applied to labor market anyways
narrow patrol
people getting google soph year
FB as a freshman 
tacit halo
Unless u lie on ur resume
loud hollow
show me another magic trick
vivid lintel
Sticky wages and whatnot
narrow patrol
LinkedIn as a freshman
loud hollow
linkedin as a freshman
terse torrent
FB as a freshman <:WazowskiStare:752943231104188518>
ik someone who did that irl
tacit halo
Lie on ur resume - that’s the trick
patent sluice
Sticky wages and whatnot
wait wym kumquat
tacit halo
About grad year
abstract wagon
pick a card, any card, they all say IM NORMAL
terse torrent
oh
patent sluice
i was talking about doordash
tacit halo
Fb as a freshman is top 3% within this server
dapper shard
this is also true
loud hollow
pick a card, any card, they all say IM NORMAL
ok its in my head
tacit halo
i was talking about doordash
It’s not overvalued
terse torrent
yeah bad grad yr is kinda bad
tacit halo
If making a return is all u care about
dapper shard
average CS major scrapes by in class and copies code from their classmates
tacit halo
Is amazon overvalued?
abstract wagon
@terse torrent so are you malding
narrow patrol
which is absurd tbh
muted leaf
i dont think amazon is overvalued at all lol
terse torrent
thats like top 0.1%
tacit halo
Nah top 3%
vivid lintel
wait wym kumquat
One of the main themes of my macro class was that sticky wages have meant the labor market has historically not behaved the same as a theoretically efficient market
terse torrent
no im not malding anymore
tacit halo
Cuz only those who get it post about it
abstract wagon
no im not malding anymore
anymore 
tacit halo
Amazon is growing fast
dapper shard
slick didn't think i would ever be able to get into any FAANG or Big N company. this is my first recruiting season ever lmao.
tacit halo
Look at stock compared to profits
dapper shard
^
tacit halo
Why does it matter whether DoorDash is overvalued
muted leaf
^^^
tacit halo
If the stock will only go up?
dapper shard
it won't tho
loud hollow
who is slick
terse torrent
does amazon make profit via aws more than its ecommerce
patent sluice
One of the main themes of my macro class was that sticky wages have meant the la...
interesting, this would keep swe wages up for the time being right
dapper shard
when pandemic is over
loud hollow
split fractal
no one cares if it is overvalued
unless some ridiculous shit happens
they will stay overvalued
dapper shard
doordash as a company wasn't even profitable before the pandemic is our point
dapper shard
so like yeah if you are doing some swing trading or short term hold
narrow patrol
One of the main themes of my macro class was that sticky wages have meant the la...
hopefully this remains true 🥺
tacit halo
But they’re much higher now
vivid lintel
interesting, this would keep swe wages up for the time being right
Yes at least in the short run there won't be drastic changes to wages basically. But in the long run that supposedly causes inflation or other issues.
patent sluice
ben graham is rolling in his grave rn
abstract wagon
🤔
dapper shard
doordash is fine
tacit halo
Even with inflation
dapper shard
otherwise
tacit halo
DoorDash will continue to grow
dapper shard
doordash will crash
tacit halo
Americans are lazy
abstract wagon
we're living off debt bois
terse torrent
imagine holding onto doordash stock til after covid
tacit halo
And will continue giving it clout
dapper shard
"stocks only go up"
loud hollow
what about uber eats doe
dapper shard
sure
terse torrent
🤡
tacit halo
Look at the past decade
narrow patrol
bruh if you think AFRM is worth 28B
patent sluice
stocks go up until they don't
loud hollow
vivid lintel
Bruh this channel needs slow mode lol
narrow patrol
dapper shard
okay here is the thing
tacit halo
Stocks only go up
narrow patrol
affirm is nowhere near worth 28B
tacit halo
Who cares what it’s actually worth?
muted leaf
yeah this chat needs slowmode
tacit halo
When the market believe in overvaluing
nova knoll
Uber eats focuses on cities Doordash owns more than 50% of the market
patent sluice
i need all ib interns here to help me crash the market
muted leaf
especially when it's not even about summer 2021 
narrow patrol
most of their fucking revenue is from peloton
abstract wagon
whos ready for the twitter massacre tomorrow
tacit halo
Goldman Sachs believes in overvaluing companies
dapper shard
places that have local food delivery just lower their delivery fees and make it cheaper than doordash and uber eats and they end up completely undercutting those two companies
loud hollow
whos ready for the twitter massacre tomorrow
r u foreseeing the future
tacit halo
They continue to do that, DoorDash will be fine
abstract wagon
yes
terse torrent
lol
loud hollow
damn das rough
dapper shard
surely my resume is op enough q
abstract wagon
we're all in this together
muted leaf
🫂
tacit halo
If it crashes, it’s recovering
muted leaf
🫂 we in this together
tacit halo
Everything crashed in 2002
patent sluice
yeah what's doordash's moat
tacit halo
It’s more than recovered
kind jungle
doordash is too big to fail, government will bail them out /s
dapper shard
food delivery as a whole just isn't a profitable industry tbh
tacit halo
But they did it first
muted leaf
exponential growth 📈
tacit halo
Everyone knows what DoorDash is
patent sluice
lol doordash and amazon are the complete opposites in terms of moat
tacit halo
They don’t care to find something else
loud hollow
1.56 trillion
tacit halo
DoorDash is too big to fail
tacit halo
Big companies don’t fail
tacit halo
That’s what the pandemic has shown us
narrow patrol
doordash is just a ripoff
patent sluice
what
narrow patrol
lmao
abstract wagon
grubhub 💯💯
patent sluice
no
tacit halo
They marketed it best
barren night
stonks up
loud hollow
favor 
tacit halo
Grubhub sucks at marketing
narrow patrol
seamless was first 😎
nova knoll
Doordash went after suburbs did the business model most others tried cities
patent sluice
i stopped doing ubereats after they made me go on the highway on a bicycle
tacit halo
Will Tesla crash?
narrow patrol
Will Tesla crash?
yea
narrow patrol
"The average P/E for the S&P 500 has historically ranged from 13 to 15. For example, a company with a current P/E of 25, above the S&P average, trades at 25 times earnings. The high multiple indicates that investors expect higher growth from the company compared to the overall market"
still gazelle
tesla will correct itself
dapper shard
^
narrow patrol
a high P/E was described as 25...
tacit halo
Tesla will become more mainstream tho
abstract wagon
waiting for rivian to ipo 💯🥳
narrow patrol
tesla is at 1600+
tacit halo
They’ll increase their profits
still gazelle
i think itll be like 500 or sum shit
tacit halo
As electric cars become more mainstream
patent sluice
speculation vs investing is why you don't invest in companies significantly overvalued
still gazelle
yeah but tesla cars arent exactly the most durable
tacit halo
Electric cars will become cheaper and tesla will be able to sell to the masses
thick ridge
waiting for rivian to ipo 💯🥳
waiting for rivian to give me a job
nova knoll
EV bubble is very real
dapper shard
NIO good long term investment
still gazelle
have u seen how many quality issues there are
patent sluice
you'd be taking on a significant amount of risk by buying into doordash
abstract wagon
waiting for rivian to give me a job <:sadge:747169038911930418>
i think im gonna take a W
tacit halo
EV bubble is very real
Even if it’s a bubble it will recover
still gazelle
Is doordash even profitable yet
dapper shard
Is doordash even profitable yet
no
narrow patrol
no
patent sluice
yea kinda mad i missed out
loud hollow
i think im gonna take a W
u did interview w them 
tacit halo
Let me find more examples
still gazelle
like whats the point then LMAO
abstract wagon
im not done yet but ive started
tacit halo
they are burning hundreds of millions
Hundreds of millions are nothing
abstract wagon
no chance i can fail
patent sluice
what do doordash and grubhub even spend money on
still gazelle
doordash is estalished and yet they arent profitable
tacit halo
Vc firms today believe in giving companies huge amounts of cash
thick ridge
im not done yet but ive started
do UK if they have set term or offzn
still gazelle
i dont think theres a reason to buy that stock
barren night
U guys remember wework lol
tacit halo
It’s relatively common for a company to raise 100m today in the early stages
loud hollow
damn after 700 lcs i feel like u just expect the dub after starting the interview process damn
abstract wagon
do UK if they have set term or offzn
i think they got off season but i havent rly asked
tacit halo
It wasn’t common years ago
thick ridge
bet
narrow patrol
wait why did GME go up so much?
tacit halo
U guys remember wework lol
That was a private valuation
narrow patrol
i kept hearing about it but
tardy minnow
Do alphabet subsidaries IPO?
still gazelle
Wework is gonna be the future for a lot of companies today
tacit halo
No one trusts SoftBank
narrow patrol
imagine getting rivian interview 🥺
loud hollow
i applied but ghost 😔
tacit halo
Even Apple has seen a bunch of growth
patent sluice
lol didn't wsb do like a poll on gme
still gazelle
At least apple is profitable
patent sluice
and they found out wsb collectively owned 20% of gme or something
still gazelle
LMAO
tacit halo
Not just tesla
abstract wagon
dw guys theyll get to u @loud hollow @narrow patrol
tacit halo
And Tesla will be profitable
Apple has been around for 50 years
Tesla has been around for 17
loud hollow
dw guys theyll get to u <@!200817022945198082> <@!686672695873765409>
profit has spoken
still gazelle
Buffet has like hundreds of billions on apple
tacit halo
It takes decades to reach profitability at that level
Hundred billion is still an anomaly among billionaires
But it will become much more common
still gazelle
yeah inflation
tacit halo
yeah inflation
This isn’t just inflation
Tech stocks have grown well beyond inflation
Inflation is 3% a year
still gazelle
And increased capacity to do work + combination of high ownership in companies
tacit halo
And if stocks met up with inflation, they would have doubled between 2000 and now
That hasn’t happened
abstract wagon
stock market isnt what it used to be @abstract wagon
tacit halo
Exponential growth will be the norm
abstract wagon
so much of it just debt
tacit halo
The bull market has been around since the 2000s
And it will continue to be around
Stocks started drastically increasing after 2009
abstract wagon
we're fucked
tacit halo
the market is so fucked
It makes people money
Why’s it fucked?
Long term the market goes up
IPOs are how people become rich
still gazelle
shits just not valued correctly
tacit halo
The first coder at Uber is now a billionaire
Because companies like money
U don’t need to be rich to invest pre ipo
still gazelle
when you have 14 year old kids calling themselves investors, thats how u know the market is fucked
tacit halo
It’s becoming democratized
pliant hawk
its gonna moon bruther
tacit halo
The minimum is like 20k tho
tacit halo
I will as a new grad
patent sluice
feel free to join
tacit halo
200k is “low” here
narrow patrol
200k is “low” here
wut
still gazelle
not as a new grad
narrow patrol
200k is “low” here
where..
pliant hawk
new grad??? i want what ur having
pliant hawk
whos ur dealer
tacit halo
But 90% of the population doesn’t make 200k or have 1m
still gazelle
200k as a new grad is fucking top 0.1%
dapper shard
tacit halo
I’ve seen ppl bitching at 6 figures
narrow patrol
most things Alex said is bait rn
still gazelle
nah Alex is just baiting everyone
i wish he was
pliant hawk
LOL
narrow patrol
i wish he was
he is.
dapper shard
lmao yes new grad
tacit halo
I’ve seen comments like “100k is garbage”
narrow patrol
200k isnt low anyhwere
dapper shard
think im lying
narrow patrol
u guys are delusional
abstract wagon
move this to random
still gazelle
roblox plays 222k new grad
pliant hawk
100k isnt low....unless?
patent sluice
I’ve seen comments like “100k is garbage”
yea those people are insanely out of touch
pliant hawk
<#781282528199180328> is a great channel! come talk about stonks with your tech...
budget wallstreetbets LOL
dapper shard
twitter 203k new grad
tacit halo
Well this channel is a bubble as well
dapper shard
as low as 170k and as high as 210k
tacit halo
It’s become a meme here
narrow patrol
recurring is a lot more accurate or maybe 2-3 year average..
tacit halo
If u read through this channel, 6 figures as a new grad will sound average
pliant hawk
all the new ppl looking for summer internship advice seeing "200k is low" LMFAO
patent sluice
some guy in the other server was saying 100k in nyc was garbage bc after rent, maximizing your retirement accounts, food, and other needs you'd only have 10-20k left over
narrow patrol
all the new ppl looking for summer internship advice seeing "200k is low" LMFAO
barely any companies pay 200k 3 year avg
narrow patrol
100 is average imo depending on the area
abstract wagon
u cant survive on 100k in sf
narrow patrol
in hcol 100 is ok as a new grad
abstract wagon
yeah in lcol its fine
patent sluice
in texas 100k is fantastic
tacit halo
100k vs 200k whatever
pliant hawk
100k difference my dude
abstract wagon
its s big difference
pliant hawk
wtf
tacit halo
Okay, I guess I’ve just been looking at big differences
abstract wagon
especially if you went to private
tacit halo
To have a real impact on ur life, a raise must be exponential
abstract wagon
if you went to school free then 100k is aite
patent sluice
that's crazy though. i plan on pulling in 201k new grad. with a couple of years of hard work and grinding, you guys might make it there 😎
tacit halo
There’s not much of a lifestyle difference between having 100m and 900m
abstract wagon
dude what
narrow patrol
BS
pliant hawk
If I ever get 100 million. All my friends getting money
abstract wagon
ur out here trying to get into faang but talking 100m 😂😂
tacit halo
If u join the right startup, 100m is a possibility
barren night
I mean yeah but there’s probably a big lifestyle difference between 100k and 200k
mighty musk
@abstract wagon usually have refreshers for that
tacit halo
But after seeing comments like “100k low”, im@under the impression that everyone here wants 100m
abstract wagon
I mean yeah but there’s probably a big lifestyle difference between 100k and 200...
there really is
patent sluice
There’s not much of a lifestyle difference between having 100m and 900m
that's actually a good point. your quality of life is not going to change between 100m and 900m, or even between 20m and 100m
abstract wagon
how tf is 100k and 100m the same
pliant hawk
100k -> 100m
low epoch
Truth is if ur not nba player and also 420k salary new grad u should quit
narrow patrol
that's actually a good point. your quality of life is not going to change betwee...
no way
stone tiger
100m? yall playing gta?
tacit halo
that's actually a good point. your quality of life is not going to change betwee...
Yeah as numbers get bigger the difference doesn’t matter
narrow patrol
10M and 100M is MASSIVE difference
tacit halo
There’s nothing that Jeff Bezos can do that Beyoncé can’t do - lifestyle wise
narrow patrol
literally the difference between private jet lifestyle and having a couple supercars
tacit halo
Maybe politically
low epoch
Yeah as numbers get bigger the difference doesn’t matter
Salary confirmed Big O
tacit halo
But they can live the same lifestyle
abstract wagon
stone island yuh
dapper shard
wait legitimately how much does an island cost though
think of how much that investment could net you back 🤔
low epoch
Lemme drive over to rent a jet and just head over to cancun
tacit halo
Lifestyle wise it won’t make a difference
abstract wagon
@restive falcon can you guys move this to random or stonks
i want summer 2021 stuff
narrow patrol
^^^
dapper shard
i still want to know what i should do about putting my summer offer on my twitter application when they don't even do off season
low epoch
i still want to know what i should do about putting my summer offer on my twitte...
Prob dont do it
dapper shard
"!join stonks" @abstract wagon
still gazelle
!join stonks
unborn hornetBOT
@still gazelle, Please run this command in the #bot_commands channel
@abstract wagon, Please run this command in the #bot_commands channel
dapper shard
Prob dont do it
i already applied with my resume having that on it
tacit halo
Just do random
abstract wagon
idk but please keep the random in random
tacit halo
Rarely
pliant hawk
Now we wait
dapper shard
<:WazowskiStare:752943231104188518>
bruh ive been getting mixed answers on if they do off season or not
restive falcon
Ppl are still looking for 2021 summer y’all please be respectful of that
low epoch
bruh ive been getting mixed answers on if they do off season or not
It feels weird asking too cuz u dont know if u should ask before or after offer
narrow patrol
havent had a process update in months tbh :/
dapper shard
i could do jp morgan summer and twitter fall then 
tacit halo
Don’t make me depressed
It’s definitely possible to get an offer!
It’s nowhere near too late
low epoch
At the pace we’re going in america i’m afraid fall semester gonna be online too
pliant hawk
soon itll be december 
low epoch
Welcome to remote internships
tacit halo
Just wanna put that out there
abstract wagon
i could do jp morgan summer and twitter fall then <:shocked_pikachu:747169984492...
tacit halo
At the pace we’re going in america i’m afraid fall semester gonna be online too
More likely than not tbh
pliant hawk
all UCs are planning to be in person 
narrow patrol
they r gonna cancel within a couple months
low epoch
For real? But they need our tuition lol
low epoch
My university just declared they wanna start a collegiate basketball team
patent sluice
lmfao
still gazelle
u srs?
patent sluice
what??
narrow patrol
tf
patent sluice
that sounds like something a cop would say
narrow patrol
that is so wtf.
thick ridge
sorry lol
thick ridge
when a recruiter says they wanna interview other candidates before making a decision
does that mean it's cap and I'm like a last choice
or is that possibly what's happening
thick hare
it's kinda like when you tell the recruiter that you need to extend the offer deadline to interview with other companies
low epoch
It means you’re rebound candidate
low epoch
I guess it just means the “maybe” pile tbh
Good on them for honesty at least it’s something
abstract wagon
cmon man
rohanzo got a chance
maybe 2nd pick
or 1st pick they just playing hard to get
thick ridge
ok well they said "overall positive response from the team but there are still a few candidates that they wanna push thru the process"
but that's more or less the same thing
low epoch
Oh well that’s good!!
thick hare
that sounds more like they want to assess the other candidates before making an informed decision
tacit halo
@thick ridge if u dont mind which company?
thick hare
so i think you stand a fair chance
tacit halo
it could possibly be a neutral thing tho
thick ridge
hmm okay
if I have a deadline coming up would I shoot myself in the foot by saying that?
cuz it might make them more inclined to just say take ur other offer
abstract wagon
id just let it play out
thick ridge
ok im in a little pickle tho
bc if I get this offer I'll do school in the spring and take the fall off
but if not I'll do school in the fall and spring internship
and last day to drop classes are next week
thick hare
if you have a valid deadline, then I think you should tell them about it
I would ask to meet with the recruiter and explain your situation
and focus on having to decide whether to go school this fall rather than having a competing offer
thick ridge
okay I'll probably let the recruiter know and hope for the best
thanks for the advice
thick hare
all the best dude
thick ridge
ok so I'm interviewing with another company that I'll probably get an offer at for spring
but this company is most likely fall
and I can only afford to take 1 semester off
im not tho
the company for fall >> spring
no ill dm u lol
timber sky
the company for fall >> spring
What company is it? just curious
thick ridge
ill post the names here once I get rejected most likely
thick ridge
but one's an AV company and one's in compute
thick ridge
do internship and classes
no lol I'd get my shit rocked
thick ridge
yea
timber sky
but one's an AV company and one's in compute
Goodluck
thick ridge
yeah but now ik I'm a T2 candidate
timber sky
I need to know now @thick ridge if you dont mind lol
thick ridge
u don't
abstract wagon
in the background
shutdown
cerulean barn
anyone know how the BNY mellon behavioral goes?
weak dragon
man i fking hate codesignal
vapid condor
Just attended a university info session, should I email the recruiter?
What should I say?
muted leaf
gib intern pls
weak dragon
honestly man fk codesignal
im never getting a decent internship at this rate
shit makes me wanna just die already
low epoch
anyone know how the BNY mellon behavioral goes?
Did it some months back. Like an hour
Just ur run of the mill fortune 500 “tell me about a time...” ad infinitum
abstract wagon
So has no one interned before at t mobile?
cerulean barn
Just ur run of the mill fortune 500 “tell me about a time...” ad infinitum
oh okay, thanks a lot i thought they might ask me a few technical terms and stuff
split fractal
So has no one interned before at t mobile?
Many have, I have a mentor/principle architect I know at T-Mobile
which team are you in?
abstract wagon
Idk yet, the offer is gonna be sent out to me a week after I attend this open house thing on Thursday but I talked to the recruiter already and asked if I’m basically in once I attend, and she said all I have to do is accept the offer once it’s sent out and I’m in
sinful tinsel
As a beginner when solving lc question is it better to solve it brute force way or efficient way? Which way is better for understanding?
odd kraken
So has no one interned before at t mobile?
a lot of people at my school intern at tmobile. what do you want to know?
bitter geyser
did anyone get a follow up from docusign after OA?
terse torrent
abstract wagon
ya but no interview scheduled yet 😭
still gazelle
As a beginner when solving lc question is it better to solve it brute force way ...
Solve it as efficient as you can the first time without looking up anything. then look at the most efficient answer and see what they did and learn from it
sinful tinsel
Solve it as efficient as you can the first time without looking up anything. the...
Why not brute force?
Will solving it efficient make me understand the solution better than brute force method?
still gazelle
if you know you can solve it in O(N) time why bother doing the O(N^2) solution?
Its not like u learn anything
in my eyes, theres only one solution
and its the most efficient one
sinful tinsel
I feel like efficient one is short, and it’ll make me understand less. As a beginner I feel like doing brute force first, and than asking yourself how I can make this algo more efficient will increase my understanding of how to go abt this type of problem
still gazelle
but like you already know the efficient one.
so you already know how to make it more efficient
if you didnt know, itd be a whole different story
sinful tinsel
if you didnt know, itd be a whole different story
Wdym
still gazelle
if you didnt know the most efficient solution
youd start from what you do know
and try to optimize it
tacit halo
The most efficient solution isn’t always obvious
What’s the best way to recognize the most efficient solution?
sinful tinsel
The most efficient solution is not so obvious? Meaning it’s hard to implement, and recognize?
tacit halo
Often
sinful tinsel
So it’s worth only coding the most efficient solution when solving these problems since that’s what the interviewers are mainly looking for, and plus it’s harder to code than brute force me to of?
Interesting
tacit halo
Cracking the coding interview is helpful
Is has some tips
For interviews specifically
And strategies
And practice problems
still gazelle
i dont even bother with a problem if i cant do it in the fastest time
for leetcode
i consider it a failure
tacit halo
CS dojo is also quite useful
still gazelle
10 min is wayyy too unrealistic
sinful tinsel
Making the efficient code harder to implement right?
tacit halo
What if u don’t know the efficient solution
tacit halo
10 minutes just isn’t enough time
To come up with a solution
@still gazelle meant don’t know
Don’t be condescending
sinful tinsel
I guess I’ll be doing efficient code from now on
tacit halo
Not always
sinful tinsel
So the efficient one is not so obvious meaning it’s harder to implement right?
tacit halo
There isn’t always a brute force solution
sinful tinsel
Alright
still gazelle
i like to think of it as
tacit halo
Really understand big o notation
still gazelle
any monkey whos taken the first CS class can brute force it
tacit halo
Study that carefully
tacit halo
any monkey whos taken the first CS class can brute force it
Not always
still gazelle
But ur good at algorithms if u can do it at the fastest time
tacit halo
Review complexity of data structures
I’m saying we shouldn’t generalize
I think I could figure it out
Make sure to really gain a deeper understanding of each individual data structure and it’s complexity
Know when data structures are the most efficient for each use case
Big o is essential
The algorithm design manual is also a good resource
sinful tinsel
For interview preparation dm you guys do random questions, or research what topic that company usually tests than study from there?
tacit halo
Don’t need the whole book but there are helpful subsections
abstract wagon
tacit halo
For interview preparation dm you guys do random questions, or research what topi...
Research company
But don’t disregard other topics
The 189 problems in cracking the coding interview are super useful
They’re picked specifically to help out
still gazelle
leetcode premium is well worth it
tacit halo
Started reading through cracking the coding interview and it couldn’t be more worth it
still gazelle
im using my friends account and its so nice
abstract wagon
@abstract wagon lemme get ur lc premium
still gazelle
no
tacit halo
If ur using two different Ip addresses, won’t that come up as suspicious?
still gazelle
no
abstract wagon
cheap or...
still gazelle
just say u travel a lot
abstract wagon
cant afford it
still gazelle
i was never gonna buy LC premium anyways
tacit halo
I got suspended from chegg over this
still gazelle
its like piracy doesnt affect profits
abstract wagon
yes
tacit halo
And I had to prove I was using the same person
Just for using two different devices
Sites seem very aware of this
Piracy is a big problem these days
tacit halo
So 1000 people could use the same account?
And they won’t care?
I’m just quite cautious these days
This is helpful
Big o cheat sheet
It will help u understand how to apply big o
And when
low epoch
but what if lc sends fbi to your house?
tacit halo
That’s not gonna happen
abstract wagon
but what if lc sends fbi to your house?
for my next trick, im going to hop on my star and disappear
id rather go for actual swe
but i would take it over nothing or a rando startup
tacit halo
but i would take it over nothing or a rando startup
Rando startup isn’t always bad
One of the many startups I’m speaking with pays faang-level rates to interns
They’re a 6 person startup
And they’re yc
abstract wagon
its not that random if its yc
tacit halo
They went through ycombinator tho
Could get an actual referral to ycombinator through them
abstract wagon
id still take amazon over yc
muted leaf
anyone who got amazon offer here? how much time do they give for an offer?
tacit halo
And pays just as much?
abstract wagon
u dont have those direct connections what?
ur just working for one of the companies
tacit halo
u dont have those direct connections what?
Founder can refer u
abstract wagon
yea theyre not gonna
tacit halo
Make a good impression on them, they might
tacit halo
Build a relationship with them while interning
abstract wagon
and eatin bananas
tacit halo
Contacting founders is how I got referrals to VC’s
It worked
Founders are willing to help other founders
muted leaf
just different standards
tacit halo
If u do a good job for them and make a good impression, they have no reason not to refer u
Sequoia invests in a lot of early stage companies
They have a new seed fund
abstract wagon
im pretty sure most of us just want a job rn
tacit halo
Ppl aren’t as scary as u think
abstract wagon
aite lmk when sequoia funds u bro
dim sentinel
im pretty sure most of us just want a job rn
Im with you on that brother
abstract wagon
ill buy lotto tickets
tacit halo
This is the wrong mentality to have
still gazelle
i just want like 2-3k
tacit halo
But that’s a story for another time
tacit halo
i just want like 2-3k
Per month?
still gazelle
no
abstract wagon
^
still gazelle
i just want it like rn
my cars broke, my room has no decorations, i need new clothes
tacit halo
i just want it like rn
U can make that through an internship or job
still gazelle
thats why im here bro
tacit halo
Just apply and cold email like crazy
abstract wagon
just message sequoia for 2k
tacit halo
If it’s urgent, just take whatever job u can find ASAP
Okay, the whole vc world isn’t as soulless as u think
It really isn’t
It’s nothing to joke about
still gazelle
@abstract wagon have u watched wolf of wall street
muted leaf
does amazon blacklist you if you renege
tacit halo
@still gazelle https://www.usa.gov/help-with-bills
If it’s urgent there are some resources
still gazelle
its not urgent. im not starving.
i just cant live my life without internship money this summer
low epoch
how good is wolf of ws
tacit halo
When do u need it then?
still gazelle
10/10
tacit halo
If its not urgent u can find something
still gazelle
before i sign my lease for a new apartment
low epoch
nice, will do homework first tho, semester started and i been bum
tacit halo
If worse comes to worse, ignore the stigma on here and just take whatever job u can
still gazelle
pick up the phone and start dialing is just so inspirational
abstract wagon
if i didnt know about drugs i woulda kms
still gazelle
fuck man my dab pen is saving my life
tacit halo
pick up the phone and start dialing is just so inspirational
It’s what I do
I literally cold call
low epoch
i would actually like to get on a vc with alex one day
all of us
to hear him sell
an idea to us
terse torrent
out of curiousity
still gazelle
"sell me this pen"
flat vine
do it now
terse torrent
whats alexs code signal score
tacit halo
i would actually like to get on a vc with alex one day
Absolutely
abstract wagon
sell me this dab pen
terse torrent
its very irrelevant but just curious
low epoch
when can u do it?
tacit halo
whats alexs code signal score
808
low epoch
tmrw u free?
still gazelle
wait i gotta do a code signal
terse torrent
lol
tacit halo
@low epoch if u actually wanna work together or have a good startup proposal, I’m open
To hearing it
low epoch
well no i don't wanna work together
terse torrent
LOL
still gazelle
bro wtf code signal is 1 hour 10 mins
low epoch
nothing personnel
terse torrent
yes
tacit halo
It’s okay
terse torrent
finding good cofounders is hard
tacit halo
I try not to take things personally
tacit halo
finding good cofounders is hard
I’ve found a few through hackathon slack channels
University events
terse torrent
i wanted to do something w someone and they are giving me low eq vibes rn
pestering me abt personal shit i dont wanna discuss
tacit halo
I’ve built a network of thousands of other young and ambitious founders
terse torrent
eh
abstract wagon
pestering me abt personal shit i dont wanna discuss
is it me
tacit halo
I’m actually starting my own vc fund
abstract wagon
sowwie
terse torrent
LOL kirb no its not u
low epoch
this channel is now property of the kirby kingdom
terse torrent
ok
tacit halo
Kirb for president
abstract wagon
true
tacit halo
?
abstract wagon
thats why schemes r called schemes
abstract wagon
u dont tell yr whole neighborhood u gonna rob a bank
tacit halo
I don’t care much about ideas. They’re everywhere
tacit halo
They’re worthless until there’s traction
low epoch
it's like Linkedin
don't post ur job in case u wanna renege
tacit halo
it's like Linkedin
don't post ur job in case u wanna renege
Yeah I’m tired of LinkedIn flexing
Flexing an internship is just stupid
Put it under ur work experience and be done with it
Inspirational content is what gets traction
On the topic of LinkedIn I highly suggest this
This is how to email recruiters and improve ur response rates this summe
If ur still struggling to find an internship try this
Super helpful in my experience
abstract wagon
^ the masterclass was really insightful
simple saffron
@abstract wagon did you actually do it
tacit halo
^ the masterclass was really insightful
Which one?
abstract wagon
no u idiots
simple saffron
lmao
abstract wagon
simple saffron
wait why is your pic so cute
abstract wagon
im cute
tacit halo
I personally found wonsulting extremely useful
I was literally getting no interviews till I reached out to them
What’s with all the downers?
abstract wagon
rad is probably at jane street
secretly scheming
all along
pretending to be one of us
tacit halo
Rad and I know each other
From krunkr
Neja brought us together
Where’s @hidden falcon ?
@thin scroll hows the job search going?
So so
I got a few interviews coming up
Lots of startup offers
A small number or unicorn/big n/bank interviews
No faang interviews tho
Yep
Wednesday at 12:30pm
I almost missed mine this morning
But they rescheduled
Doing a quick stats analysis, 86% of the interviews I got were a result of cold emailing
It’s a seriously underrated tool
manic saddle
Is the !problems Amazon equivalent to the leetcode top amazon questions list?
tacit halo
More people should do it
restive falcon
Is the !problems Amazon equivalent to the leetcode top amazon questions list?
yes
tacit halo
I found a few Apple managers on LinkedIn
thorn leaf
More people should do it
lol each time i try, i jus get the L 😦
tacit halo
I think someone said that emailing them is effective
tacit halo
lol each time i try, i jus get the L 😦
How many have u sent?
thorn leaf
BURH
tacit halo
What was ur email template?
tacit halo
I can critique it
tacit halo
can i dm if possible pls?
Sure
thorn leaf
tysm
tacit halo
Where did u get the emails?
Did any respond?
These are things that will help me look into it more
Actually just checked my spreadsheet. I’ve done 440 so far
manic saddle
How'd you even find that many emails
tacit halo
How'd you even find that many emails
Salesql, rocket, hunter
LinkedIn dm’s
Half were LinkedIn dm’s, half we’re cold emails
It gets bounced roughly half the time
But that’s still a huge success rate
manic saddle
Did you just apply online and immediately send an email to a recruiter at that company
tacit halo
Yeah, after a few days
The chances of any individual recruiter responding are roughly 10% so u must mass email
muted leaf
does anyone know ebay return offer rate???
bitter oriole
is it bad to cancel an interview the day of (only time i could inform them due to some circumstances) or should i just do it 😫
humble pendant
I'd just do it tbh
simple saffron
^
but canceling if you have a good reason is totally acceptable
i canceled an on site a couple months ago because I got concussed
still gazelle
yo whats a good code signal score
abstract wagon
800+ for me
still gazelle
fuck i got 732
i had no fucking clue what data structure to use for them
man code signal is fun
still gazelle
i got a 100/100 on speed
if i can guess whats going on
i cant zoom through a problem
but i just dont know what to do sometimes
silk ridge
^ same if ur cancelling and not rescheduling just do it, saves them lots of time
lethal ore
some juniors get below 700
Lol many do
tacit halo
Perfect isn’t necessary
still gazelle
im gunnin for a 800 by the end of this semester
abstract wagon
Lol many do
rly? i dont know too many
tacit halo
It’s just a binary cutoff
still gazelle
i think ds&a will help
tacit halo
Either ur above or below the cutoff
Below cutoff -> instant reject
Above cutoff -> move forward
still gazelle
but chances are if youre below the cutoff, you wouldnt nail the other interviews
tacit halo
That’s how I’ve heard of it at least
tacit halo
but chances are if youre below the cutoff, you wouldnt nail the other interviews
U can practice
Code signal is a skill of itself
Very rng
I’d only retake if it’s below 750
still gazelle
u can retake it?
tacit halo
u can retake it?
After 14 days
Here’s what I’d say:
650: absolute floor
720: generally safe, but not a sure bet
750: usually safe for most companies and shouldn’t be a reason to get u rejected
800: definitely safe and definitely won’t hurt anywhere
So I’d aim for 750
840: unnecessary
Wait, is it really true that quora had an 840 cutoff one year
That I can’t believe
That’s just ridiculously high
There’s no need to retake any score above 800
The first time I took it, I got a 515, the second time, an 800
So it’s definitely possible to improve
cyan valley
tacit halo
It’s a 4 question test
That gives 4 random leetcode-like questions
Okay maybe not completely random
But with varying difficulty
For everyone
As long as it’s not the amazon oa I’m good
I got a 26% on the amazon oa
Literally the worst I’ve ever done on any oa
Amazon oa is definitely pretty hard
A lot of ppl do quite poorly on it
muted leaf
buoyant ledge
That I can’t believe
i had a phone interview with quora last year with 840+, but it got rescinded for no reason (before covid)
probably like 845+ or smt
grim agate
Amazon oa is definitely pretty hard
second this, oa 2 was much harder than i thought
pulsar shadow
it's rng, I got one super easy and one medium
tacit halo
second this, oa 2 was much harder than i thought
Yeah it’s quite random
Some people get easy problems
Other people get hards
Okay I just finished the two sigma oa
It was quite hard but manageable
I got a 23/33 on it
Is that good?
Will I likely here back?
For an interview?
With this score?
Last year I got rejected with 25/30
But that was an easier oa
And I was a freshman
abstract wagon
@odd kraken sorry i just saw your message about how you know a lot of people at your school interning for T-Mobile, i wanted to know like what kind of things they've done before as an intern or what kind of projects they've worked on if they're allowed to talk about it. Also how much guidance and help they received if they didn't know how to do something. One last thing would be on how if they have gotten an offer or not for a full time position after graduation
sonic badger
Amazon oa is definitely pretty hard
More like really random lol
eternal torrent
muted leaf
yeah I'm pretty sure they said you can use the official documentation
does anyone have a list of summer internship that can be moved to fall/spring?
abstract wagon
muted leaf
dapper shard
mbn to have good rng
muted leaf
has anyone reneged amazon but still got an offer for another season?
vapid condor
how hard is snowflake swe oa?
terse torrent
i heard its like lc hard @vapid condor
muted leaf
lmao damn
dim prism
is it too late to apply to tiktok?
dapper shard
someone said they got an offer on the 17th
abstract wagon
i dont think that was december oa
soft hound
that was from the last round