2021_summer

[hallow prism]

response from companies

[abstract wagon]

Yeah indeed man utd is winning now jk jk

[abstract wagon]

Which one

[hallow prism]

ghosted by all of them

LOL

[patent sluice]

weird question but yall think goldman sachs on my hinged and bumble finna improve response rates

[abstract wagon]

Bloomberg sounds great

[abstract wagon]

Yes

[humble pendant]

not really imo - I don't consider it people bragging - it's mostly people giving updates on their team's projects/progress, etc. I don't think its a big deal. The only thing I didn't like about it is that it seems like they use the regular Facebook newsfeed algorithm on workplace so it's super common to see the same several posts for weeks on end - which doesn't make sense at all

[hallow prism]

Yeah except for Bloomberg but I think they're full from word of mouth

[abstract wagon]

Everything is better than no internship and Goldman is top finance

If you like the field is gold

[patent sluice]

wait you know what hinged is right

and bumble

[tribal ridge]

Dating sites?

[patent sluice]

yea

[buoyant ledge]

oooo i see, thats wild

[abstract wagon]

Wait I didn't read that part

[patent sluice]

lol

[buoyant ledge]

but like what if two ppl from the same team post, doesnt that get repetitive?

lol

[abstract wagon]

Will you wear a suit or something elegant at Goldman?

[humble pendant]

not everyone makes posts, and it's not very often - I usually only see posts on the newsfeed (outside of my team) if that team made a major product release and are celebrating it.

[abstract wagon]

If so it will make you cute so high response rate

[runic tinsel]

if you don't get a return offer, are you blacklisted from the company?

[tribal ridge]

No

[abstract wagon]

Plus coke at Goldman should be good

[buoyant ledge]

ah gotcha i see, ty for the insight

[simple saffron]

^ purest kind

[flat vine]

lovedoing coke and heroine

[tribal ridge]

Why would no return offer = blacklist?

[runic tinsel]

because this is corporate america? idk

[simple saffron]

prob means you won’t get an immediate new grad offer

[abstract wagon]

Are people at Goldman beautiful like in tv series?

[simple saffron]

but the field starved enough for talent that they won’t blacklist you for that

[narrow patrol]

i keep mistaking u for boba

lol

[simple saffron]

i want boba back

[runic tinsel]

lol yeah maybe ill be considered only once i have 2-3 years of experience

[abstract wagon]

Bro never mix

Only one pure data structure

[low epoch]

My interviewers were good lookin

[hallow prism]

you can mix ket tho

[simple saffron]

what’s LRU cache equivalent of drugs

coke and alc

[ember stream]

did everyone get the twitter email

[abstract wagon]

Now I understand why they wanted me @low epoch

[flat vine]

if there's a LinkedHashmap i want my CokeHeroine

[low epoch]

I feel like for tier list of good looking yeah gs is up there

S tier?

[flat vine]

yo is it me or

[abstract wagon]

LRU was cool but now is so common

[narrow patrol]

ye

[abstract wagon]

Still a cool question

[flat vine]

have cs majors gotten more attractive the past few years

[abstract wagon]

So it's weed

[low epoch]

No we just have better webcams

[simple saffron]

i prefer random stack

[dapper shard]

[tribal ridge]

Zoom auto-beautify

[hallow prism]

Will FB be hiring new grads or is it still frozen?

[abstract wagon]

Yeah

[flat vine]

i think better webcams would make ppl look uglier no

because you can see the flaws better

[low epoch]

My mom uses that lmao

[abstract wagon]

Engineers now must shower

[narrow patrol]

thats a thing wtf

[abstract wagon]

Biggest improvement in the industry

[low epoch]

Skincare and sleep makes u look better no cap

Hear me out u crusty skin fools

[flat vine]

sleep water and korean skincare

[abstract wagon]

Can't sleep after a good line

[tribal ridge]

I want to get into a skincare routine because I have terrible acne but idk where to start

[runic tinsel]

i got a lumin delivery today

[flat vine]

might also be diet too

[low epoch]

infiltrate the women channel and get advice

[tribal ridge]

Went to a dermatologist and took some medicine, worst part went away but scars and breakouts remain

[flat vine]

dont pick pimple

[low epoch]

Oh shit yeah scars are rough i have some from hs days

[narrow patrol]

[low epoch]

Touch greasy keyboard touch greasy doritos touch ur face

[flat vine]

wash face in morning

[low epoch]

Bad idea

And night

[flat vine]

and night

change pillow

[tribal ridge]

Gotta use chopsticks to eat doritos

[flat vine]

every now and then

[humble pendant]

/r/skincareaddiction has some good advice in their wiki

[tribal ridge]

Thanks for the advice yall peepoHeart

[low epoch]

No worries u will look good goldman sachs tier in no time

U are A tier

But can be S tier

[simple saffron]

@obtuse otter chad r u alive

did u get surgery

[flat vine]

also dont play league

[low epoch]

Yeah i aint never met 2 pretty league players

[flat vine]

i notice that literally every time i play league i get breakouts in the next day or two

[silk ridge]

i think that one is to prevent hair loss

[tribal ridge]

Maybe stress response?

[flat vine]

also cancer

[abstract wagon]

LMAO

[flat vine]

100%

[worthy terrace]

Does anyone have any suggestions for finding summer internships at this point? I’m not having any luck.

[vivid lintel]

If they haven't cancelled your interview then they're probably not full yet. Maybe they're getting full, but that's diff from actually having filled headcount.

[dapper shard]

bigger companies are finishing up hiring right now so i would be looking at medium sized and smaller companies now at this point

[sinful tinsel]

which yr ru?

[ember stream]

junior

[runic tinsel]

are leetcode hards important these days? i've only been getting hards and i cant solve them on my own unfortunately

tbh leetcode is one of the main reasons i dont wanna do software engineering anymore

[pale coyote]

rare in interviews but unfortunately getting more common in oas

[cyan valley]

Leetcode isn't

Representative

of day to day work lol

Its just to weed out people who don't know anything

[runic tinsel]

@cyan valley i need to do it to even get to the "day to day work" part tho

[cyan valley]

Yeah

But once ur past it

Then ur fine

One of my final interviewers gave me a leetcode, and I got a solution but it wasn't O(n)

[runic tinsel]

yeah but i do know a lot about computer science

[cyan valley]

And he was like

[runic tinsel]

i have A's in algos/ds

[cyan valley]

"this isn't day to day don't worry"

[runic tinsel]

from a top 5 cs school

but i cant solve hards fully in 30 mins

[cyan valley]

I doubt u need to be able to do hards lol

Ur just stressing for no reason

[runic tinsel]

lol man

ive only been asked hards

[cyan valley]

Amazon legit asks mediums

[runic tinsel]

im serious

[cyan valley]

Where are u applying lol

2sig citadel js

[runic tinsel]

uber, quip

[cyan valley]

🤣 💀

[runic tinsel]

fkn quip

[cyan valley]

uber yikes

[runic tinsel]

google, both my phone screens had hards. first was hard backtracking, second was hard dp strings

[cyan valley]

u applying to swe?

[runic tinsel]

yup

swe intern

[sinful tinsel]

i thot companies do send hard tho, like the top tech ones?

[dapper shard]

leetcode != SWE work

[still gazelle]

yeh u just gotta do leetcode every time u apply for a new position

you do leetcode a shit ton for a few months then nothing for a few years

[dapper shard]

this is part of the motivation for me finding a company i would want to be long term with tbh. i don't feel like job hopping and having to prepare for interviews differently from the work i did over years

[abstract wagon]

And btw you can even not change jobs so much

[dapper shard]

like for instance

[still gazelle]

you typically wanna job hop every 4 years to max comp

[abstract wagon]

So it's like 5 times

[dapper shard]

if i get twitter then im done doing leetcode for the next few years hopefully. especially if i get a return offer. if im lazy ill take my return to jp morgan and still not do leetcode anymore for awhile

fuck maxing comp though honestly

because i don't spend much to begin with

[still gazelle]

it doesnt even make that much of a difference

ull make like 10% more after taxes but the stress might not be worth it

[icy juniper]

@sonic badger

[dapper shard]

pass 100k base salary comp doesn't really mean shit

[icy juniper]

when ur portal changed what did it change to

[abstract wagon]

I want to semiretire

[dapper shard]

just go rest and vest at msft then lol

[abstract wagon]

Freelancing

[still gazelle]

msft is like a SWE retirement home

[abstract wagon]

No I want to work on my own shit or take long breaks

Plus I like material stuff and travel so money is relevant

[sonic badger]

sup?

[icy juniper]

yeo what did ur portal change to

[sonic badger]

offer accepted

[icy juniper]

but i mean like

before that

[abstract wagon]

40 yo = semiretire
50 yo = focus only on my no profit + getting a PhD in humanities

[icy juniper]

did the location change from bc to toronto or something

[sonic badger]

yes

exactly

oh

i can finally change my name

[icy juniper]

ah ok i will look out for that

[sonic badger]

I have returned

[icy juniper]

its gonna be an agonizing time waiting to hear back

[low epoch]

where were u when simp4bezos changed name

[icy juniper]

i've refreshed the portal so much

it pops up before amazon.ca for me now

[low epoch]

i was eating pancake

[sonic badger]

lol

ye man

but if u get the offer, and im sure u will

its worth

[icy juniper]

yessir

[cyan valley]

take deep breath

and wait for them to email u

spamming portal isn't gonna do anygood

🤣

[icy juniper]

that's true

[sonic badger]

it worked for me

[icy juniper]

i just wanna be done with this man lol

[sonic badger]

[icy juniper]

tired of recruiting since fall

[cyan valley]

do u have

another offer?

or are u just banking on it

[icy juniper]

im in the loop for a few other places

but no offer yet

[cyan valley]

I hate recruiting

🤣

[icy juniper]

agreed

[cyan valley]

how many apps u sent out?

[icy juniper]

150

didnt u ask me today the same thing

[cyan valley]

???

i ask everyone this

i feel like i did

do u have a spreadsheet

[icy juniper]

i had one

[cyan valley]

I wanna go through an dapply to some i missed lmfao

[icy juniper]

then i gave up half way

[cyan valley]

150 was HALF WAY?

[icy juniper]

after like nov i was basically like fuck it

100~ was half way

[cyan valley]

o

[icy juniper]

after that i didnt keep track

so im like ball parking 150

[cyan valley]

this is so scuffed

[icy juniper]

+/- a bunch

[cyan valley]

u have my prayers

Amazonian

🙏

[icy juniper]

ty boss

[worthy terrace]

I'm getting so sick of applying

[cyan valley]

that sickness will go away once u get 1 offer doesn't even matter where from 🤣

Even ifs a cardboard box

[worthy terrace]

I feel like my profile is fine, everyone tells me i'm great at interviewing. wtf am i doing wrong

[cyan valley]

Nothing

[worthy terrace]

dude same i'll take anything

[icy juniper]

its rng fam

[cyan valley]

Its

pandemic

• rng

[icy juniper]

as much as it sucks

[cyan valley]

this is prob

twice as hard cuz eveyerone is sitting at home

free so everyone is just applying

for fun at this rate

ik during normal school year everyons so busy no1 even thinks about it

[cobalt raven]

y’all should try your best for Shopify. i feel like it’s a great company that makes you actually build something instead of grinding yeetcode for apps. that’s ofc if you have time tho

[abstract wagon]

Yes Shopify sounds cool

[runic tinsel]

jumpstart is just built for URMs, change my mind

do non-URMs hear back from recruiters on there?

[abstract wagon]

im non URM and i hear back very rarely

[runic tinsel]

nice

i try to remove my ethinicity from my applications but it never does

[abstract wagon]

its very possible to get an internship without being a URM though

so it doesnt matter to me

[exotic badge]

Any one has done wepay oa ?

How is the difficulty ?

[abstract wagon]

lc hard

one of the hardest oas ive taken

[runic tinsel]

i mean ofc, im just stating my experience with jumpstart because for some reason they always want to display your race in the applications

[pliant hawk]

whats a URM

i see it alot and idk waht it is

[quaint skiff]

You can choose "Prefer not to say" though?

[still gazelle]

Underepresented minority @pliant hawk

[runic tinsel]

for me, on my profile, it does not go off to that tho. rn its asian and when i choose prefer not to say it somehow returns back to asian

[abstract wagon]

i think its just glitchy

ive tried to update other fields on my profile and they didnt update either at some point

[obtuse otter]

jumpstart is just weird how do I even use it

[abstract wagon]

shitty features for a shitty platform

@obtuse otter bro u alive

[runic tinsel]

also if you think about it

they only banned users when there was 1 racist discussion about black people

there have been 100s of trashy spam posts but none of those people got banned

[abstract wagon]

i think racism is worse than trashy spam posts tbh

[runic tinsel]

ofc it is

but still

both should've been dealt with

[abstract wagon]

how do you qualify something as trashy spam post

if you ban all of them thats just saying you're not an open platform

[runic tinsel]

there was one guy who kept posting some bullshit about how berkeley succks

or some sorta fight between berkeley kids and some uiuc kid

that doesn't really belong on jumpstart either right

[low epoch]

But what if i want to know about berkeley beef

[runic tinsel]

then bring it to parler bruh

[low epoch]

Also thats weird it’s defaulting u to asian lol

I dont use jumpstart i didnt know its mission was urm oriented.

[runic tinsel]

lol try to change it

lemme see if it's only me or it's all across

[low epoch]

Also is the spam actually clogging feeds or it gets tunneled into a black hole?

Because if racist posts reach front page hell yeah ban those fools

[flat vine]

my biggest pet peeve about jumpstart is how students keep posting "hire me pls heres my resume" in Recruiter Announcements

[abstract wagon]

it works though

i posted my resume 200 times

got interviews

(just kidding u gullible kids)

[low epoch]

Damn so ur the one at conferences who posts in every chat room

[abstract wagon]

no i was jk

[low epoch]

LOL true i fell for it

It’s ok boss let ur haters be ur elevators

[patent sluice]

did you listen to the indian senior engineer

bro, he told you he had 20 years of experience. if you didn't listen to him its an instant L.

[obtuse otter]

what actually is the right answer to that

i said go back and do it

LMAO

[earnest leaf]

Does LinkedIn do offseason

Anyone know

[humble pendant]

someone asked awhile back and their recruiter said highly unlikely - I assume they were talking about swe . For data science in particular, there's no off-season (I asked my recruiter)

[hallow prism]

They used to pre-covid

[earnest leaf]

Ahhh okay sweet thanks for letting me know!

[restive prairie]

sadge

[obtuse otter]

yall know bloomberg is freshman friendly?

[runic tinsel]

are you interviewing for the analytics role?

[humble pendant]

data science role yeah - i did my final round last week

[runic tinsel]

is that core ML stuff or just analytics?

[humble pendant]

analytics - there can be ML stuff from time to time

if you want to go into core ML at places like linkedin, fb, etc. you need a phd

[abstract wagon]

anyone know what the bose phone interview is like?

[hollow hawk]

yes

[runic tinsel]

i think i just lucked into fb and apple lol im just so dumb

i can't solve "equal subset sum partition" without looking at the solution

im guessing others are comfortable with these kinda dp questions?

[abstract wagon]

isnt it just knapsack

[runic tinsel]

yeah

but i cant fucking code up the dividing it into subset part

[eternal torrent]

How is Amazon final interview?

Is it lc hard?

[abstract wagon]

typically med

[abstract wagon]

just check if u can make total_sum/2

[eternal torrent]

thx

any websites for preparing the interview besides lc?

[vivid lintel]

Idk if it's "freshman friendly" but I've seen quite a decent number of freshmen intern there

Granted a lot of them were from ivy leagues, so take that fwiw

[obtuse otter]

oh yeah the only freshman i know who got interviews were T10

bot more freshman friendly than other companies i should say lmfao

[viral fable]

anyone else get an email from twitter today? highkey just feels like an incoming rejection

[muted leaf]

yeah i think most people got the twitter email

[viral fable]

how nice of them....haha

[tribal ridge]

Twitter finna bout to BCC everyone "thanks m8 but better luck next time"

[viral fable]

me too, i forgot i applied there

if an internship posting says: "Senior year in Computer Science, Mathematics, Statistics, or related field" does that mean incoming senior? or current senior?

[thick ridge]

any1 been thru palantir's process that I can DM?

[muted leaf]

probably both

[coral geode]

Does PayPal move to fall

[fallen vessel]

What's yall opinions on Walmart Labs?

[abstract wagon]

good on resume

also is that finnegan fox

or just random fox

[fallen vessel]

Opinions on Citrix?

[sinful tinsel]

In terms of projects is it still okay to have a WebDev project even if I’m applying for swe?

[abstract wagon]

yea

you could be doing webdev work as a swe

swe is a big umbrella

[formal finch]

Does ripplematch actually work because I just got matched to Citadel lmaoooo

[ruby pendant]

mmm id say its the same as just regularly applying with a slightly higher chance of getting interview

id say its like 1.5x more likely to get a interview/OA than just regular apply (just from my experience)

[muted leaf]

yeah they actually work except i never got an offer from them lmao

they'll more more likely to get your resume screened

plus you get to keep recruiter contact

[dapper shard]

ripplematch worked a lot for me. i got a lot of interviews from it

[marsh burrow]

is salesforce's OA automated? I got it the day after I applied

[frozen palm]

no

[marsh burrow]

oh. Do they have another resume screen after taking it?

[twin obsidian]

Team match after

Then interview with specific team manager then technical interview with people on said team

[marsh burrow]

Also Is it too late to apply to Amazon? Should I just wait til the fall app opens?

[gray quarry]

i would just wait until fall

[cyan valley]

for summer?

[soft ocean]

is there any downside to bombing an interview? I have an interview w amazon next week but am having difficulty finding the motivation to study for it. I already have a good offer from another company. I'm just worried if I tank I might be 'blacklisted' or told not to apply again

[cyan valley]

spots are prob gonna be full by then

Lol na @soft ocean

they know u might learn more in a year or whatever

[soft ocean]

kk

am considering maybe cancelling the interview but seems like there's no downside to the extra practice

[cyan valley]

na don't cancel

just take it lol

[soft ocean]

word

I'll channel my inner MonsterPanda

enter my final form

get hired as SDE21

retire after 1 year

[cyan valley]

LOL

SDE21???

Oh u mean the year 2021

[soft ocean]

lol 21 was a bad number just meant super high level SDE looool

what even is there highest SDE level

[cyan valley]

Its like

9? or 10

Im p sure its 9 cuz like 10 is CEO

loll

[soft ocean]

damnnnn

[cyan valley]

isn't new grad

like

3?

[soft ocean]

legit no idea

[cyan valley]

Google L3

Are udoing full time or intern?

[soft ocean]

intern

my other offer is from okta so even if I do get the Amazon job I'm not sure what I woild take

[cyan valley]

😮

Okta

depends what u interested in

[soft ocean]

thats sort of the crux of my lack of motivation lol

[cyan valley]

I feel u

i mean u can get both and see which pays more

🤣

[soft ocean]

lol word

I think if its remote okta pay mores but if its not amazon cause the extra cash from living stipend

[cyan valley]

Yeah for sure

[soft ocean]

what would you take lol

[ionic rune]

Could you move okta to fall?

[soft ocean]

I cannot

same w amazon from what I have heard

[ionic rune]

Also amazon may be hybrid this summer. A spring intern got an email that they can negotiate with their manager how often they have to go into office or they can just do fully remote

[cyan valley]

Doesn't matter what people say bro

Do what works for you

Everyones opinion is useless lol

[soft ocean]

damn thats pree interesting ngl

loool

qord

everyone different

[cyan valley]

Yeah

[simple saffron]

anyone else get an email from docusign?

[soft ocean]

some people monster some panda some both

[cyan valley]

u got me dead

🤣

@soft ocean okta pays more for intern im p sure

if that matters 2u

[ionic rune]

Amazon got that banana bonus tho

[cyan valley]

bananana

[soft ocean]

nice

idk in us

but I tjink i heard in canada amazon was 41 / hour

not sure if thats correct

wdym spongerock

[ionic rune]

Check #intern_salary_sharing

[soft ocean]

oh

[ionic rune]

Bananas is just memes

[soft ocean]

literall channel

damn

what are we

society

at the end of the day

if not just memes

[cyan valley]

does any1 have a list of

fall internships i wanna apply for fun

[silk ridge]

yes cpt thing?

[simple saffron]

ye did you just get it

[silk ridge]

yeah i havent even done an oa tho

[simple saffron]

same. after doing some snooping tho it seems like we get an oa after

[ionic rune]

Check pinned in #2021_fall there's not many yet tho

[abstract wagon]

@simple saffron is that your dog

[simple saffron]

i wish

[abstract wagon]

ah

[robust lotus]

Docusign does not sponsor

[abstract wagon]

has anyone interviewed with them yet

losing my sanity

[merry dirge]

Did DocuSign recruiters reach out, and then send an OA lmao

Or do they go to phone

[simple saffron]

i think OA

[abstract wagon]

OA

[cyan valley]

@ionic rune no pinned am i looking at the wroing thing?

[ionic rune]

This: https://github.com/BaruYogesh/Fall2021Internships/blob/master/US.md

[cyan valley]

Ty

[hasty pulsar]

hi @soft ocean

[dim sentinel]

Has anyone done OA for twilio

can you please let me know how it went!

[soft ocean]

hi @hasty pulsar

oh

my son

[frozen palm]

amazon pays living stipend even if its remote i think

[graceful adder]

ye

[soft ocean]

oh shit

amazon around 50 an hour then

for Canada

[rare olive]

Any F1 visa holder who scored 2021 internship ? , I have a theory that companies are barely hiring F1 visa holder this time around because they don't want to sponsor. No one my friend managed to score internship, I'm kinda tensed now..

[runic tinsel]

yeah i haven't been able to

we're gonna have to wait for the h1-b wage rule to change or be dismantled for any chance of companies hiring us

because even with biden the new H1-B rule isn't gonna change anytime soon, which means that companies are reluctant to hire international students

[muted leaf]

damn that's rough. I hope situation gets really better for yall too :((

[narrow escarp]

Anyone know if it applies to h1b1 too

[runic tinsel]

@abstract wagon elite school?

just curious

where did you sign

and offers?

niccee

yeah i failed google screens and microsoft final interview 🙂

nada

tbh rn im chugging claws in despair lmao but lets see im griding so hard

thanks man, yeah i hope so too

i also hope all of us get offers soon

[muted leaf]

we rooting for you man

[runic tinsel]

thaanks bezos

you got amazon right

[muted leaf]

no, but trying to

interview tomo

[runic tinsel]

good luck

focus on LPs

[muted leaf]

thanks 🙏

yup will do

[runic tinsel]

don't "umm" too much while answering the Lps it really ruins communication

yeah man i know

my google phone screens were both lc hards

damn son you passed tho

my recruiter actually called to reject me and she said it was pretty clode

close*

yup

lol she called me at 8am california time and i was fast asleep

i for some reason answered the phone when i was woken up suddenly

and i was slurring away "who is this"

she was based in nyc

eh 8am is late enough i guess

she said that because i interviewed for APM intern and didn't pass, and also interviewed for swe, she thoought that because i put in so much time for google it would be best to call i guess

lol tableau is my target company for salesforce

i always pass the quip resume screen tho so idk

and i have only data systems and data infra experience so idk

yeah

they pay fat for new grad

$200k

is yours the general swe intern at tableau

or is the crm swe intern one

LOL

my microsoft interview was toxic man

first round indian guy (im indian)

told me he's only there for an h1b

second round guy told me he wished there were more white people (im serious)

final round girl was toxic as fuck, didnt turn webcam on citing "issues with camera", then asked me ml trivia like a robot and when i was staring at my own self reflection in the bottom right of the screen and not into a blackhole (cuz no webcam) she was like "do you have a note sheet in front of you"

like gal i dont need a note sheet to answer bullshit like supervised vs unsupervised learning

all emotional baggage man

probably hate work/their lives

interviewees are the easiest to throw baggage on

it's like a boxer hitting a punching bag

nah dude they always get benefit of doubt, for us it's just "apply in 1 year"

really?

reported for?

and you did 4 interviews? damnnn

bruh all my interviewers half ass anyways

my 2nd interviewer didn't undertsand me

and i didn't understand her

she kept saying "ok ill give you a hint" and i had to stop her before she gave me one and docked me down for asking for hints

yeah dude

yeah

[low epoch]

Damn

That’s easily one of the most toxic set of interviewers

I’ve heard in my life

[runic tinsel]

yeah

im kinda ok with the microsoft decision tho

this would've been my team

during the internship

last thing i want in my life rn is two back to back no return offers

[low epoch]

yeah, best to just accept things and move on

[eternal torrent]

@muted leaf how do you prepare for your final interview

[low epoch]

other day the interviewer asked me off the bat my age and if i was hispanic

[muted leaf]

leetcode and lp's

[viral fable]

is that the case for all microsoft interviews? your interviewer is your team?

[eternal torrent]

lps?

[muted leaf]

leadership principles

[eternal torrent]

okok

[muted leaf]

just google, should pop up

[eternal torrent]

kk

I have it next week

so

[muted leaf]

good luck man

[eternal torrent]

you too

[runic tinsel]

apparently it was yeah, all of them were from the same team, so im guessing so yeah

[low epoch]

I gave my age and said yes lol

It was for a dumb MLH program tho, that pairs u with a company kind of internship thing

So i was just like this is wack anyways

Young indian guy who is swe at fb

[runic tinsel]

MLH pairs you with fb?

[low epoch]

No lol not even

But the MLH rep person does so on a volunteer basis i presume so they can be from anywhere

[tacit halo]

Guess what. I’m in the hospital now and it’s completely my fault (posted details in #random ). Nothing too serious and I should be fine, but I Can’t focus on the job search right now and I’m even gonna have to ask for an oa extension over this, but I should be out my tomorrow afternoon and I can answer all the dm’s afterwards. Just not mentally in a position to share internship advice right now (but will be in less than 24 hours).

Quite frankly, I’m more concerned about getting an oa extension, whether it’s even feasible

[runic tinsel]

one step at a time, health first

[tacit halo]

Completely agree

[runic tinsel]

ive also been feeling super weak and dizzy the entire day for the last month or so and was about to visit the doctor

but still here i am downing claws so yeah rip

is product engineering taking off these days?

i might teach myself react

[dapper shard]

product engineering?

[runic tinsel]

i heard somewhere that product engineering is hotter than ML/AI rn but i find that hard to believe

yeah

[dapper shard]

ngl

never heard of it

[runic tinsel]

https://www.facebook.com/careers/v2/jobs/251300712749003/?location=San Francisco%2C CA&utm_campaign=google_jobs_apply&utm_source=google_jobs_apply&utm_medium=organic

its just react, JS stuff

[still gazelle]

that link...

[runic tinsel]

lol my b

i think im going to sip claws in my next interview, makes me a smooth speaker

[still gazelle]

smart man

i always take a shot or two before an interview

well

for a behavioral

[runic tinsel]

issa move

[still gazelle]

https://xkcd.com/323/

xkcd: Ballmer Peak

Apple uses automated schnapps IVs.

[runic tinsel]

should i follow up with my mongo recruiter?

had the recruiter screen 9th dec

ghosted since then

until i emailed again on the 4th, and he said he still hasn't heard from the HM

after that nada

[muted leaf]

usually how long do recruiters give you for an offer before it "expires"?

[strange wraith]

depends on the company

a good standard is about 2 weeks at least

but some firms are hopping on the exploding offer trend which isnt great

[muted leaf]

what about amazon, if you know?

wdym they be hopping on that

oh

lmao

[strange wraith]

pretty sure amazon is fine

[buoyant ledge]

@runic tinsel not ghosting, they have a waitlist for offers

[strange wraith]

oh @buoyant ledge you're back

[buoyant ledge]

waiting for my gf to write her essay so i can sleep

[strange wraith]

its been more than 2 years since i wrote a coherent essay

[buoyant ledge]

whats a coherent essay, never heard of her

[dapper shard]

I remember these days. I left the room to go to sleep

[fast dune]

Hey peeps, any former Uber can share their experiences about the team matching process? Which team are interesting?
I heard Marketplace teams are really interesting

[still gazelle]

what happens if u miss calls from a recruiter

[muted leaf]

uh oh.

[still gazelle]

yea....

[muted leaf]

should email first prob?

[still gazelle]

they didnt thi

tho

[muted leaf]

no no

you email them

that you missed the call cuz xyz

[still gazelle]

oh yeah

bet

they wouldnt call to reject me right?

[muted leaf]

some companies do but i doubt it would be

[narrow patrol]

where at

[muted leaf]

good lucks

[still gazelle]

activision

tbh im not sure i even applied

[narrow patrol]

ooh dang nice

wait is this after interview?

or just random call

[still gazelle]

random call

like i never interviewed or anything

[narrow patrol]

oh wtf that kinda weird lol

how did you know its activision who called?

def not a reject its most likely an interview, kinda weird for a company to cold call tho

[still gazelle]

i called their line and it said “thanks for calling activision recruiting”

called the number**

[narrow patrol]

ohhh

i gotcha

well u prob got the interview so gl!

[still gazelle]

okay so i double checked

i didnt even apply?

[muted leaf]

LOL

well looks like they want to hire you

[still gazelle]

ok so theyre calling me about an open position

yuhh

[still gazelle]

hes calling again n im nervous

its gonna be my first time talking to a recruiter

[simple saffron]

assert dominance by sitting there in silence

[rare olive]

Have you been looking for internships though ? Which h1-b wage rule are you talking about though ?and why are F1 cpt holder being affected by it ?

[full trench]

anyone know if amazon asks for references?

[sonic badger]

they didnt for me

[abstract wagon]

why tf does twitch keep sending oas

how about an interview instead

[slow gale]

I never interviewed at roku lmfao

What interview did she get feedback from

[thorn leaf]

LOL

i expected ur message to be a type message

LOL got me in the first half

[humble pendant]

I got the same email and I never interviewed with them LOL

[lethal ore]

I got ghosted from Roku

[simple saffron]

hey it takes most ppl multiple interview attempts! maybe next time theyll actually interview you lmfao

thats so fucked

[abstract wagon]

ive interviewed

some of their messages are automated af

as seen above

[dusty vine]

yea should i bother doing it lol

also what do u guys think of mongodb vs gusto

i have those 2 offers but also final rounds for doordash and amazon, but amazon’s in like 3 weeks so that’s prob a bust. fuck i hate decisions

[simple saffron]

i heard mongodb culture is really great

[lunar burrow]

anyone just did twitch oa?

[simple saffron]

but i feel like either is great

[lunar burrow]

it's like a 5 minute problem

;-;

[simple saffron]

that easy?

[abstract wagon]

gusto

[lunar burrow]

well if you know your ds&a it's a regurgitation problem

[simple saffron]

damn thats weird because the second one was pretty tedious

[torn dagger]

i did it in 5 min

[dusty vine]

yea i was leaning mongo but gusto’s recruitment process was so nice. like my recruiter called me up for the offer and all my interviewers were there and gave me compliments lol i was like wtf this is so sweet

[lunar burrow]

yeah both first and second were somewhat tedious

[torn dagger]

probably not passing hidden test cases

but i passed the 6

lol

[abstract wagon]

i doubt theres hidden

[dusty vine]

hm any reasons why?

[simple saffron]

any difference in location/compensation?

[lunar burrow]

there's probably hidden

[abstract wagon]

gusto does payroll right?

just seems more interesting

[simple saffron]

thats pretty nice that they seem to value you as a candidate

[lunar burrow]

@torn dagger did you check if brute force passes those 6? i didn't bother

[torn dagger]

i didnt use any DS

[lunar burrow]

ah

lmfao

[torn dagger]

it was like 6 lines of code

[lunar burrow]

yeah there's definitely hidden then

[torn dagger]

😂

[lunar burrow]

i did what I think is optimal

[dusty vine]

gusto is slightly higher (like 3 dollars more per hour?? idk actually i didn’t factor in housing stipend) but same location, basically comparable pay

[simple saffron]

damn i want to do it now

[lunar burrow]

but could be more adv sol out there

[abstract wagon]

should i do it

i seriously doubt theres hidden

[torn dagger]

look at the problem

[abstract wagon]

i dont think they care enough

[torn dagger]

i feel like there would be

[fallow shuttle]

probably look at full time pay too, inter doesn't matter as much

[lunar burrow]

neither do i

i just did it for curiosity lul

[simple saffron]

i think mongodb is more of a household name, especially with the prevalence of MER/AN stacks. but like i said i think either is really good

[abstract wagon]

@lunar burrow im tired of doing oas that lead to nowhere bro

[dusty vine]

o interesting, a lot of people seem to think opposite regarding payroll and their tech stack (potentially dated bc ruby on rails, etc) vs mongodb’s product

[sonic badger]

anyone know if shopify will let u push an offer to fall?

[lunar burrow]

i just use OAs to hone my lc skills

instead of actually grinding LC

getting the interview just the cherry on top

[abstract wagon]

same but some actually lead to stuff

[lunar burrow]

i couldn't care less that I don't get the interview

[abstract wagon]

like tiktok snowflake etc

[sonic badger]

must be nice to have that opportunity

[lunar burrow]

i want to do tiktok now

fuck

gonna apply

[abstract wagon]

it was pretty fun

[lunar burrow]

wanna see how hard I get fucked

[abstract wagon]

its not that bad

finished the oa in half the time

[dusty vine]

lol the one i took wasn’t bad

[lunar burrow]

heard it's heavily team dependent

[dusty vine]

in december

[simple saffron]

look at exit opportunities between mongodb and gusto too

[lunar burrow]

there's like a million OAs

[silk ridge]

the december one was fine the first one was stupid hard apparently but i didnt take it

[dusty vine]

o what are those?

[abstract wagon]

i took the one that "top 30 competitive programmer" said was hard

😂😂

[thorn leaf]

anyone do snowflake core challenge which was sent out today?

i got the java/cpp one

[silk ridge]

i got destroyed by rubrik oa tho

[abstract wagon]

that one was hard

barely managed 100%

[lunar burrow]

i wish rubrik sent me OA

[abstract wagon]

the last q was rly specific

on one core concept

sat there for like 10 minutes wondering what it was

[lunar burrow]

any chance u can share in dm? i didn't apply to rubrik lol

[abstract wagon]

i dont like sharing qs sorry 😦

[lunar burrow]

ah okay, np

[abstract wagon]

im the kid who didnt share qs in hs either

[simple saffron]

nerd

jk

[lunar burrow]

i was kind of like that a year or 2 ago but now i just don't care

[abstract wagon]

im huge on academic honesty

[lunar burrow]

i'll share if I remember the q

and i generally don't 😂

[abstract wagon]

like i wont rat people out but i dont wanna be part of the dishonesty

[drowsy quarry]

how long did it take for tiktok to give you an interview after the hackerrank?

[lunar burrow]

yeah i get that

[abstract wagon]

^^ a week

but the one i took was in november or something iirc

[silk ridge]

i havent heard of anyone getting phone from the last oa yet maybe just not on this server

[drowsy quarry]

yea I did the December one, no response yet

[abstract wagon]

i wish i got the december one

[drowsy quarry]

how did your tiktok interview go btw?

[abstract wagon]

1st round was light

meds

final hard but easier hard

got an offer day after

[drowsy quarry]

good shitt

[abstract wagon]

i dont want tiktok though

i want mfkin argo ai

[simple saffron]

is it true twitch only takes like

8 interns

[abstract wagon]

i thought it was 20 something

[simple saffron]

damn thats still low as hell

[abstract wagon]

ik thats why i said its all over

no hope

[simple saffron]

yeah no point

[drowsy quarry]

I swear twitch's 3 OA bs is just a marketing scheme

[simple saffron]

yeah fuck twitch

leading us on

[abstract wagon]

twitch is the stranger, OAs are candy, we are the kids, and van is destitute

[silk ridge]

marketing chess to their applicants

[twilit mesa]

i believe it was something like 20

[simple saffron]

dammit i wanted a ripe van experience

[abstract wagon]

same

[fallow shuttle]

they take 45-50

[abstract wagon]

damn

and we still not any of them

[simple saffron]

we're not incel enough

or too incel

either one

[abstract wagon]

theres no such thing as too incel

theres no bar

skys the limit

[simple saffron]

breaking barriers

[low epoch]

It’s because u all still use pogchamp

Even tho it’s banned

[pliant hawk]

lmfao

[dapper shard]

pogchamp is back

just a shitty version of it

[pliant hawk]

isnt it changing everyday

[dapper shard]

it is

[simple saffron]

they took day9's idea and took a huge shit on it

changing every 24 hours was a bad idea

[dusty vine]

watched 2 eps of queens gambit and twitch chess streams are filling my yt recommendations ffs

[cyan valley]

l o l queensgambit pretty good show

[low epoch]

Yeah its good show

[dusty vine]

went on chess.com and basically lost to everyone i played eyy

yea i should finish it

[loud hollow]

LMFAO if anyone wants quick chess lessons when they arent busy lmk :)))

i have a lot of free time this semester so i can give some out when im not busy as well

im not that good tho

[wind trench]

anyone who did amazon final round for intern have any insight ?

[still trellis]

twitch oa took literally 4 minutes for me i spent like another 10 minutes thinkig if i could do it faster lmao

but nop

ezpz

[odd kraken]

thats why its a placebo OA

[runic tinsel]

im doing data science, not swe

[viral fable]

@runic tinsel are you a masters student?

[obtuse spruce]

!salary shopify

[small fossil]

https://www.levels.fyi/salary/Shopify/

[runic tinsel]

yeah, wbu

[viral fable]

im undergrad so i didnt bother to apply to mongoDB data science haha

masters and phd only :"""(

[runic tinsel]

yeah, tbh i thought these positions would be the best chance for me but i guess not

maybe my recruiter is ghosting because they don't sponsor visas?

[viral fable]

if your phone screen was on the 9th that's not too bad i think... it's only been a few days

[runic tinsel]

i find it hard to believe the hiring manager hasn't made a decision since a month lol

9th december

[viral fable]

ohhh i see i thought you meant jan

dang

i spoke to a recruiter before and they told me these companies usually hire like 1-2 data science interns anyway : /

[runic tinsel]

😦

yeah its kinda small

[viral fable]

in particular square only hires 1 and they open after january or smth

[still gazelle]

yeah data science is lucrative but there arent many jobs for it

Compared to SWE

[runic tinsel]

they probably open late so most of the people sign some offers

so a smaller number of applicants

[viral fable]

apparently it can take awhile for them to figure out if they need a DS intern too (shrug)

[humble pendant]

just curious - where did you hear this from?

[viral fable]

university recruiter during virtual career fair

i think the one hosted by RTC

[runic tinsel]

not going back to fb?

[humble pendant]

didn't get a return offer (long story there lol) - but I'm interning at Uber this summer

[runic tinsel]

glad things worked out for you tho

product analytics?

[humble pendant]

yup!

[runic tinsel]

sweet

[humble pendant]

thanks! hope things work out for you too

[viral fable]

niceee

[humble pendant]

oh nice you're in RTC? really great group

[viral fable]

yep!

[river sable]

Please confirm whether you require CPT for this intern role

what is CPT?

[humble pendant]

Curricular Practical Training - if you're not an international student, you don't need it

[river sable]

Gotcha thank you

[sinful tinsel]

is a IT intern worth doin an interview over?

[river sable]

good practice

[runic tinsel]

anyone interview with multiple salesforce teams in one season? like quip and tableau in one season, or quip and sfdc in one season

[stone tiger]

Im about to

[pliant hawk]

if you ask your internship to be moved to fall, will they just cancel your offer?

[runic tinsel]

which teams

[earnest leaf]

Damn Dropbox just laid off 11% of their workforce

[low epoch]

Wtf for real????

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/drew-houston-dropbox-will-cut-315-jobs-11-of-workforce-2021-1%3Famp

[earnest leaf]

Yep scary sight

[low epoch]

Dropbox was one of my few dream companies so i’m sadge

Oh well onto the next one

[earnest leaf]

You can still risk it if you built different

[abstract wagon]

i dont think its a frequent occurence for dropbox but the remote first policy was a huge change and i think had impact on the decision to lay off these people

[buoyant ledge]

prob along the lines of they can hire for cheaper

[abstract wagon]

@buoyant ledge u mean outsource?

or do you mean because of remote they can get people from LCOL in the states and pay them less

[runic tinsel]

they'll open an india office

or outsource to india

[sinful oar]

yikes :/

[abstract wagon]

i fucking hope to god not

[buoyant ledge]

both outsource and hiring from LCOL & pay those ppl less

[abstract wagon]

forgot lc ull need to be a cp god to get a job

[runic tinsel]

full remote sucks

business travel is finished imo

[buoyant ledge]

i mean uber outsources hella engineers, same with amazon

[abstract wagon]

gg bitches we gonna be homeless

[abstract wagon]

im a little surprised about uber, not so much amazon lol

[runic tinsel]

amazon india is toxic af

low pay for like 80 hours a week

[abstract wagon]

im not gonna lie I dont think uber is that great

[runic tinsel]

if you get PIP there are half a billion people to hire

[abstract wagon]

rip

u guys think i can start a company with fiverr talent?

[neat tiger]

if i'm still "under consideration" for Two Sigma, should I just assume the L?

[runic tinsel]

i have a few acquaintainces who work at salesforce

but idk them well enough

should i ask them for a referral

[neat tiger]

yes. imo. worse thing they can say is no

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[runic tinsel]

in fact

my aunt works there too

[cyan valley]

just ask em for it

they get $ if u get in

they ain't gonna say no trust me

lol

[runic tinsel]

but she reffered me to 2 positions in the fall and i didnt pass the resume screen

should i ask her again

ive kept in touch with her but i dont wanna make it seem like im asking for non-stop favors lol

[neat tiger]

your AUNT

yes

fuck it

[low epoch]

yeah dawg just buy her something for christmas/b day

[acoustic crystal]

Has anyone done a codepair interview for pure storage before?

[muted leaf]

does anyone know if you can ask for reinterview for amazon?

[runic tinsel]

would someone be willing to review my github and give me feedback on how to improve it?

[dusty vine]

yea it was pretty chill

kinda standard lc easy-med questions mixed in with locks/etc. wasn’t super difficult and that’s coming from a dumbfuck like me

[quaint veldt]

Anyone get an interview for Kensho?

Swe backend intern

[pine bay]

Does Salesforce allow summer --> fall for interns?

[jolly flint]

was this an indian dude who said that?

[runic tinsel]

white

[cobalt raven]

you’ve had concurrency in an interview?

[still gazelle]

in what class do you learn locks and shit

[cobalt raven]

a systems class

it’s like never tested though

[still gazelle]

joma tech said his citadel interview touched on locks

[jolly flint]

wow it's bad either way, but personally I would report this person

[runic tinsel]

i didn't wanna tell the recruiter anything cuz i was afraid im gonna get blacklisted

[still gazelle]

you wouldnt get blacklisted

theyd fire that guy in an instant if you told a reporter about that and an article was written

[muted leaf]

lmfao wtf was that interviewer thinking

[still gazelle]

Remember, tech companies are probably some of the most PC companies on the planet

[muted leaf]

man i recently had one unique bad interview experience and am feeling you rn

i dont even get much interview opportunities

[low epoch]

The best interviewer i ever had was actually a young white dude from ut austin like mid 20’s probably

[muted leaf]

i wish

[low epoch]

Awesome, friendly dude, i asked questions and he gave good clarifying feedback, was silent when he needed to

[patent sluice]

the recruiter would thank you

if you told them

save the company from a lawsuit

[muted leaf]

it's not too late

tell em

exposeee

[low epoch]

write it on medium

[still gazelle]

racism is one thing but racism in job interviews is a BIG NO NO

[low epoch]

I’ll give clap/vote

[acoustic crystal]

lmao ok thanks so much

[still gazelle]

if hes actively discriminating against you

[acoustic crystal]

I don't know shit about locks rip time to cram

[still gazelle]

thats such a big deal

[acoustic crystal]

wait so there weren't any system design questions?

[cyan valley]

for which app? @acoustic crystal

[dusty vine]

yea but it was really casual. re locks

like i learned abt it a year ago and forgot the specifics but the interviewer was helpful and walked me thru stuff i forgot, it’s very conceptual and high level (i don’t think we even ran the code i wrote). at least my experience

[dusty vine]

not for me but don’t wanna say definitively

[acoustic crystal]

pure storage

[acoustic crystal]

ohhh ok thanks

[merry rain]

how long after completiting oa 3 for Amazon does it take to hear back?

[sonic badger]

10 daysish

but they sent out some email the other day

[still gazelle]

apply on company website or university job board?

[neat tiger]

has anyone done the Citadel 70 min hackerrank thing

if so how bad

[loud hemlock]

1 med 1 hard

pretty chill

[tacit halo]

Is citadel even possible with a non target/non faang background? I don’t want to just apply and have my application thrown into a black hole. Will emailing 100 citadel recruiters work?

[runic tinsel]

nope

ken griffin is an elitist

and he signs off on each hire

[cyan valley]

@neat tiger p sure its automatically get sent OA no resume screen

did it for fun got L

[neat tiger]

@cyan valley yes I think so too — just wondering how difficult it was

[cyan valley]

im p sure there was a LC hard

I took it 2 months ago i can't remmeber

[abstract wagon]

havent seen it happen before

[tacit halo]

seen some non target (by non target, i mean non-ivy, non-mit, non-stanford, non-cmu, non-berkeley, etc)

seen a bunch of uiuc people there

im at a top 15 cs school

[abstract wagon]

uiuc is target lol

[thick ridge]

uh im pretty sure uiuc is the #1 feeder

[abstract wagon]

uiuc > ucsd

its not even close

[tacit halo]

are all t15's target?

[tacit halo]

i 500% agree