2021_summer

[thick ridge]

it for sure is lol

[obtuse otter]

man

[thick ridge]

for ece

or cs

[obtuse otter]

TARGET GOING BACK ON UR HEAD

[still gazelle]

man UT hoed me

[soft hazel]

(jumps in heli)

[obtuse otter]

jk i get ur point tho

[soft hazel]

best strat in warzone don't @ me

most wanted becomes ez

[obtuse otter]

ut austin not T5 but it is good

[soft hazel]

its quite weak in theory sadly

[thick ridge]

T5 matters less than you probably think

[still gazelle]

really? weak in theory?

i thought UT was heavily involved in theory

[obtuse otter]

go to LAC it's all theory 😈

[soft hazel]

algorithmic theory

[still gazelle]

i go to a&m and i take much less theoretical classes than yall

[obtuse otter]

oh no i mean for like quant

[soft hazel]

UT is S tier in systems and close to S tier in ML

[obtuse otter]

ik it is not end all for like swe

but i feel like most interns i see @ quant are T5/really good CS program

[still gazelle]

yup

[soft hazel]

but theory grad has like 2 good classes in total

taught by Price

[obtuse otter]

how is the course progression at ut austin?

like when did u take ds&a?

[soft hazel]

1st sem

[obtuse otter]

damn

[soft hazel]

honors program

• hs credit

[obtuse otter]

when do normal people take it

[soft hazel]

2nd semester

[obtuse otter]

damn

[still gazelle]

most people take ds&a at a&m 4th sem. im not joking.

im doing it 2nd

[obtuse otter]

dude

pakistani

[still gazelle]

u have to reapply for cs here

[obtuse otter]

i have to take it 4th sem

[tacit halo]

Holy shit he’s back

[obtuse otter]

and i cant take it earlier

[tacit halo]

What a legend

[still gazelle]

bruh

WTF

LMAO

[obtuse otter]

because u have to take cs1/cs2

[still gazelle]

u got it worse

[obtuse otter]

CANT TEST OUT

and it only runs in spring

[soft hazel]

my state college would have made me take it then oops

[still gazelle]

cs1 aand cs 2

wtf

[obtuse otter]

odds are i won't even be able to take it next year

0 spots reserved for sophomores

[still gazelle]

thats fucked man

thats so fucked

[obtuse otter]

deadass

[tacit halo]

Yeah, I kinda agree with this

[still gazelle]

here, i can bitch to my advisors and theyll give me a spot

[obtuse otter]

like non trivial chance i wont get into any cs courses next year

i punch the wall every day thinking about it

[soft hazel]

I bitched to advisors at state college before entering

[obtuse otter]

how could it possibly be our cs major is so small but still we can't get into courses

[soft hazel]

and they refused to let me take DS&A

so I told them I'm going to other uni

[tacit halo]

Would u say schools like ut Austin Turing are arguably as good as ivies when it comes to CS and quant recruiting (excluding other possible benefits of ivies)?

[still gazelle]

yo should i graduate in 3 years with cs degree, graduate in 4 years with cs + math, or graduate in 4 years with cs degree + co ops. for quant

[tacit halo]

Do quant firms actively recruit their?

[soft hazel]

top of the top will be just as good I think

[obtuse otter]

graduate in 4 bc more internships

[soft hazel]

but the average person at UT Austin Turing will never get past resume in quant sadly

[obtuse otter]

in my mind as long as u go to a reputable school if ur smart u can make quant

[soft hazel]

while the average person at MIT (who is probably not as good)

[obtuse otter]

like if u get OA first

[soft hazel]

will get the interview

[tacit halo]

Who does then? Top 10%?

At UT Austin

[soft hazel]

top 20% of Turing are in Quant

or could get quant

[obtuse otter]

better odds than most schools

tbh

[still gazelle]

and turing is like what top 10-15% of cs students there?

[tacit halo]

Honestly pretty substantial tho

[soft hazel]

50 people

[still gazelle]

so basically 2-3% could get quant.

[soft hazel]

IDK total # in CS

[narrow patrol]

[tacit halo]

So, top 20% is basically mit quality?

[narrow patrol]

no thats not what he said lol

[still gazelle]

50 a year?

[soft hazel]

50 a year

MIT quality seems bullshit to me at this point

[still gazelle]

wow 3% are turing a year.

[tacit halo]

Honestly, I’ve met plenty of people from schools like it Austin that are far more impressive than a lot of mit students I know

[still gazelle]

so 0.6% of people at UT CS could get quant

[soft hazel]

probably more than that

[narrow patrol]

my understanding of what he said is that 20% of turing is able to overcome the resume downside of not going to MIT and still get quant interviews

[soft hazel]

I'm conservatively estimating

[still gazelle]

i see

[soft hazel]

yes

[tacit halo]

School name really doesn’t say that much

[obtuse otter]

being in the same state as quant fund is a cheatcode

[narrow patrol]

^^

UIUC

[soft hazel]

I would near kill to take grad classes at MIT as undergrad

[thick ridge]

lmao

[obtuse otter]

uconn is a feeder to bridgewater

[runic tinsel]

lol people at top schools have a much easier time tho

[soft hazel]

b/c some of the coolest classes I have left

[narrow patrol]

😏

[tacit halo]

Well, some people have actually said that quant funds are more lenient than faang in terms of resume screens

[soft hazel]

have better equivalents there

[tacit halo]

Less rng

[narrow patrol]

must be nice

[thick ridge]

uchicago is holy grail for quant firms tho not uiuc

[tacit halo]

But interviews are a different story

[runic tinsel]

uchicago cs sucks

[soft hazel]

@tacit halo yeah I rarely get RNG rejected

[obtuse otter]

yeah

[runic tinsel]

uiuc cs >>>>

[narrow patrol]

uc hicago <<

[obtuse otter]

i was gonna say isnt uchicago cs kinda bad

[soft hazel]

I've been resume rejected from every FAANG I applied to this year

[thick ridge]

yeah but for quant trade/research

uchicago good

[obtuse otter]

man

[still gazelle]

what the fuck

[obtuse otter]

why dont companies care about quality of education 😭

[obtuse otter]

NO SHOT

[runic tinsel]

no, uchicago is pretty sus for cs. i had a friend do a master's there and he said it was easier than his undergrad

[still gazelle]

how in the world pupper

[obtuse otter]

im lowering the target i feel bad for u

[soft hazel]

my friends were meming the shit outta me 😄

[tacit halo]

Then again, plenty of ppl without target/faang/icpc get past the resume screen

[narrow patrol]

how tf you are resume reject from faang

ur way overqualified lol

[still gazelle]

if ur tryna get int oquant, u should probably do a masters in stats/math instead of cs

[soft hazel]

I was more surprised it was all of them

not that one of them did

[tacit halo]

Would u say quant firms are generally more willing to interview ppl than faang as long as ur okay on paper?

[still gazelle]

bro got yield protected from faang

[tacit halo]

Like I heard akuna interviews pretty much everyone

[soft hazel]

🤷‍♂️

Akuna is very lenient

because they are DESPERATE

for new talent

they have major growing pains rn

[strange wraith]

I don’t think most quant firms are that lenient with resume screens ngl

[soft hazel]

esp in their QR area

[humble saddle]

ILL

[tacit halo]

Akuna, maybe

[thick ridge]

INI

[obtuse otter]

SAY LESS

[tacit halo]

Jane Street is probably far less lenient

[barren night]

Do quant places resume screen after oa? Because it seems like they send oa auto a lot of the time

[obtuse otter]

will akuna be okay with my 3.6 gpa

[strange wraith]

On the other hand, I don’t think their interviews are that ridiculous once you pass the resume screen too

[still gazelle]

yes

[tacit halo]

Probably

[obtuse otter]

LETS GOOOOO

[soft hazel]

nonzero chance

[tacit halo]

Hard cutoff is honestly like a 3.0

[obtuse otter]

only appying to akuna next year

[soft hazel]

you get past

[strange wraith]

(For swe)

[still gazelle]

its akuna bro its not citadel

[tacit halo]

But that’s the hard cutoff

[pale coyote]

Bruh js resume is fucked

[soft hazel]

I have beef with Citadel lol

[still gazelle]

whty

[obtuse otter]

js told me they won't interview freshman this year but so many of my freshman friends got interviews

[soft hazel]

their recruiter memes me

[pale coyote]

People with 3.9 at target with unicorns get resume rejected

[obtuse otter]

my heart hurts

[still gazelle]

lmaoo

[tacit halo]

Ppl lie about grad date all the time

Not advocating for it

[soft hazel]

JS is pretty RNG

[tacit halo]

But it’s not rare

[still gazelle]

bro uve advocated for it

[tacit halo]

Only if u have enough credits

[soft hazel]

normally good at predicting my interview results

[obtuse otter]

they said they won't interview students in theirr first year

not just freshman

[tacit halo]

Like I essentially have senior standing on paper

[still gazelle]

yeah true

[tacit halo]

Would I graduate this year?

Definitely not

Too early for me

[thick ridge]

credits don't matter if that's what you're saying gives you senior standing

[humble saddle]

nice flex

[tacit halo]

It was cuz I came in with a bunch of AP credits

[thick ridge]

i know a million kids who took like 25 APs and have credits

lol

[tacit halo]

Not saying I even did well on AP exams

[still gazelle]

what if all those credits are applicable

[tacit halo]

But yeah it was enough

Helps with grad date

[pale coyote]

Once you have 40+ credits it doesn't really matter

[narrow patrol]

senior standing gang 😎

[tacit halo]

I came in with 92 credits.

[narrow patrol]

tf

[pale coyote]

Wtf

[tacit halo]

90 is sophomore standing

[narrow patrol]

?

oh is this quarter system

[tacit halo]

AP exams were literally like 8 credits each

[narrow patrol]

or smthn

[pale coyote]

????

[tacit halo]

Yeah

Quarter system

[pale coyote]

Oh

[narrow patrol]

for us, 92 credits would be senior standing lol

APs come in as 3 credits

[tacit halo]

Senior standing is 135

For us

Junior is 90

Sophomore is 45

[narrow patrol]

120-130 to graduate here lmaoo

must be a different scale

[tacit halo]

I came in with more credits than I’ve earned in the past year and a half

[obtuse otter]

1 credit here == 3/4 credits at another school == 6/8 quarter system

[still gazelle]

what school

thats absolutely insane

135 credits to graduate

[tacit halo]

University of California San Diego

[tacit halo]

180

135 to be considered a senior, 180 to graduate

[strange wraith]

Whats a typical credit load in the quarter system for one quarter

[obtuse otter]

bro thats like 6 courses a year

[narrow patrol]

was a bit nervous lol

[tacit halo]

I’ve earned 68 credits here since I started in fall 2019

[obtuse otter]

(assuming 8 per course)

[tacit halo]

A course is usually worth 4 credits

[obtuse otter]

wait is it 8 or 6 alex

[tacit halo]

4

[obtuse otter]

oh

[tacit halo]

Per course

[obtuse otter]

which one are u doing rn?

[tacit halo]

And it’s typical to take 16 per quarter

[tacit halo]

Which what?

[narrow patrol]

o shittt

[obtuse otter]

oops

[sinful tinsel]

Are the ds/algo in the ctci book enough for learning coding interviews, or no? Would I still have to learn more on my own?

[obtuse otter]

i forgot to tag

[still gazelle]

wtf a course is usually 3 credits here

[narrow patrol]

we do like 15/sem lol

5 courses

[tacit halo]

So yeah, most ppl graduate with around 192 or so

[obtuse otter]

@narrow patrol bro

[tacit halo]

180 is just the minimum standard

[obtuse otter]

u deleted ur message when i tagged u LOL

[narrow patrol]

dmm

[narrow patrol]

🕵️

[obtuse otter]

ic

[tacit halo]

But even then, I’m honestly just taking a lighter schedule now

[strange wraith]

Are the ds/algo in the ctci book enough for learning coding interviews, or no? Would I still have to learn more on my own?
@sinful tinsel ya it’s fine but I’m also just not a fan of CTCI. It’s old and IMO pretty random and unorganized

[tacit halo]

Look, I got 3’s on AP history. Was enough to get me out of a lot of requirements

[strange wraith]

I prefer Grokking the coding interview

Plus learning DP myself

[terse torrent]

i dont really like the linked list / tree section of ctci

i feel like those are meh

[strange wraith]

I just feel like the book is meh

[soft hazel]

random question but does anyone know of a good ML course lol

[strange wraith]

It’s a random jumble of DS questions

[terse torrent]

@soft hazel practical or theoretical

[strange wraith]

random question but does anyone know of a good ML course lol
@soft hazel Andrew Ng’s stuff is good

[soft hazel]

practical

[terse torrent]

fast.ai is practical

[soft hazel]

I just did a theory course

[terse torrent]

do fast.ai

(i heard its good, been recommended many times)

[sinful tinsel]

I’ll check that out

[tacit halo]

@soft hazel how different are quant interviews from swe?

[soft hazel]

more math

[tacit halo]

Do they ever ask leetcode questions?

[sinful tinsel]

What is dp?

[tacit halo]

What type of math? Like olympiad type or standard probability?

Do they ask competitive math type questions?

[terse torrent]

https://www.educative.io/courses/grokking-the-coding-interview is this waht ur talking abt @strange wraith

[terse torrent]

dynamic programming

[strange wraith]

Yeah there’s a version on Libgen where some dude saved every page

I used that

Goated

[terse torrent]

ty

[sinful tinsel]

Ah ok

Ty bro

[terse torrent]

am i the only one who had to learn dp many times before it stuck

[strange wraith]

I think taking a formal Algo course really helps with the intuition

[terse torrent]

i feel like epi's explanation of lis enlightened my soul

[tacit halo]

What about preparing for quant/trading interviews?

[terse torrent]

lcs consolidated

[tacit halo]

Any sites for that?

Or classes?

[timber sky]

do they have good explanation on DP?

[terse torrent]

i think for dp my bf first explained it to me, i watched 6006s explanation on dp then i tried some dp on blind 75

[strange wraith]

Repeated practice also works pretty well for DP

[terse torrent]

start w fibonacci then 0-1 knapsack

[strange wraith]

Oh yes

[terse torrent]

drawing a diagram of the table is good

[strange wraith]

The classics

[terse torrent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYquumk4nWw

i think this dudes explanation is good

[karmic fog]

just bank on the fact that DP is rarely asked

and don't learn it

lol

[obtuse otter]

thats what im doing

[karmic fog]

I have yet to get a DP question right in an interview

[terse torrent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ5jsbhAv_M&t=2307s

[strange wraith]

^also a possible approach

[terse torrent]

LOL

[strange wraith]

Wait rly I got like 5 this past season LOL

[terse torrent]

idk im gonna have to learn it sometime

might as well not flunk every dp interview

i flunked every greedy, graph interview so far

[karmic fog]

graph questions are most common in my experience

I'd prioritize over DP

[soft hazel]

doggo? 😮

[terse torrent]

eh doing blind 75 in order

is it the real boba

[karmic fog]

at least 1/3 of all interviews I've had were graph

[terse torrent]

or another doggo

[timber sky]

send link lol

[karmic fog]

the original doggo

[strange wraith]

Boba is gone I thought

[terse torrent]

yeah he gone

😦

[thick ridge]

yeah boba is gone still

[strange wraith]

Sadge

[terse torrent]

[karmic fog]

he got scared away

[strange wraith]

LMAO

[humble saddle]

What happened to him

[terse torrent]

someone tilted hiim

[tacit halo]

Okay, can we just stop with all the drama?

Don’t have to be dramatic about everything

And okay, I honestly get kinda triggered when people encourage smoking since it killed my grandparents. It’s nothing on u

[obtuse otter]

only thing i smoke is dick

[thick ridge]

there's no second S emote

im sad

[strange wraith]

HAHA I realized you were going for the sus

And I was wondering how you were gonna do that

[soft hazel]

what happened to boba dog

[tacit halo]

Can we just not?

I stated above why that conversation made me a bit uneasy

Can we just move on?

[obtuse otter]

all i gotta say is if ur 18 years old and wanna smoke then its ur choice 💯

[frozen palm]

lol tf Honeywell just sent me an interview over text

[flat vine]

can we stop with the drama it's making me curious and i really don't want to scroll all the way up to read everything...

[frozen palm]

and im 99% sure i answered the questions it had on my application but w/e

[obtuse otter]

block their email

[thick ridge]

dont respond

[stiff vessel]

Well are you interning elsewhere this summer or taking the time away

[strange wraith]

How much do you care about your relationship with the company

[tacit halo]

Depends on how much u actually care about this company

[strange wraith]

If you don’t care just ignore

[stiff vessel]

If it’s a large company just be honest

[tacit halo]

Like honestly what are the consequences of reneging on a company u will never work at

[thick ridge]

how many of u wear a tie in interviews btw

debating if its worth

[strange wraith]

Depends on the industry

[stiff vessel]

I have this nice Hawaiian shirt I wear for interviews

[thick ridge]

its tech tech

[tacit halo]

I’ve reneged on random startups more times than I can count

[strange wraith]

I don’t think I ever wore a tie

[stiff vessel]

Has a lot of pineapples on it

[tacit halo]

I would never renege on a big n

[obtuse otter]

bro

abcmr

[thick ridge]

aight im deadass boutta just wear a tshirt

[strange wraith]

99% I just pulled up in a hoodie

[obtuse otter]

do NOT tell them where ur going

[stiff vessel]

Helps with my interviews

[tacit halo]

If ur never gonna return, don’t sweat it

[stiff vessel]

Keep your attire casual, the comfier you are the better you’ll perform

[tacit halo]

Wait, can’t they report u to ur career center?

Didn’t someone say that’s amazon reported them to their career center for reneging?

[strange wraith]

I’ve been reported before

[tacit halo]

But what could a career center possibly do?

[strange wraith]

Nothing happened

[tacit halo]

They just won’t give a fuck?

[soft hazel]

always better to email

[strange wraith]

I’m banned from spring career fair lol

[soft hazel]

because why make an enemy when you don't need to?

[lethal ore]

Anyone got the honey well thing?

[strange wraith]

Wasn’t even going to spring career fair anyways

[dark junco]

Yeah

[tacit halo]

I don’t want to be a cog in a machine for long

It just isn’t me

[lethal ore]

Are they even good to intern at?

[tacit halo]

However, I do not consider quants a cog in a machine

I’d only be worried if they could potentially blackmail my name

Amazon apparently

[thorny gorge]

yooo same

i just got it

[tacit halo]

Which is so stupid

[thorny gorge]

[tacit halo]

That such a large company would actually take the time to contact ur career center

Also, recruiters move around frequently

I don’t think it’s extremely rare to get the same recruiter at another company a year later

They’re the one reviewing ur resume? Instant reject

Okay. I’ll get myself through these interviews

I did another leetcode last night

Why is reneging such a big deal?

Peoples plans change in life

All the time

And these companies can afford it

[still gazelle]

cuz usually recruiters get commission for hiring

ur basically taking away money from them

[tacit halo]

I couldn’t care less about their commission

[still gazelle]

but they care

[gray barn]

in my university someone has reneged on a bigN before and as a result a year or two after that incident microsoft delisted that university as a target school

[tacit halo]

Aren’t they salaried?

[still gazelle]

its very unprofessional

[tacit halo]

Look, big ceos do far worse things

Isn’t it only third party recruiters that get commission?

Or do employed recruiters make their living primarily off of commission

[strange wraith]

Yeah companies just get annoyed about reneges because there’s work that goes into interviewing, getting an offer approved, scheduling etc

[tacit halo]

I read somewhere that some recruiters make as much as 10% of the tc of the candidates they place

[strange wraith]

In the long run

Not a big deal

[simple saffron]

anyone else get a "self paced interview" for honeywell?

[tacit halo]

That’s very substantial

[strange wraith]

Just ignore it

[gray barn]

i did lol i think they started sending it out

[frozen palm]

its just some very simple questions

[sinful oar]

i wouldn’t advise just ghosting a company like that, signing a contract isn’t a small deal and comes with consequences

[frozen palm]

like stuff you’d answer on an application not even short answer

[thick ridge]

at-will employment

you're not legally bound to working there

[tacit halo]

So, if a recruiter places a new grad into a 200k job, they get a 20k bonus?

And since they probably handle hundreds of candidates, that’s some serious money

[cyan valley]

LOL

I doubt it

[strange wraith]

Most internship contracts have an will employment clause where the contract can be terminated for any reason by either party at any time

[tacit halo]

There’s no way recruiters make that much

[cyan valley]

Whoever siad that

is delusional

recruiters are like pyschology majors

[tacit halo]

I read that a 10% commission is common

[thick ridge]

10% is too high

[cyan valley]

they make 100k tops at tech companies

Not

10k per each new grad

💀

[tacit halo]

100k even sounds like an overestimate

[cyan valley]

Legit go on glasdoor

and type google recruiter

its prob 70-80k

[tacit halo]

The 25 year old psych major recruiting for internships probably isn’t making more than like 40-50k

A senior recruiter might make 100k

That wouldn’t surprise me

[thin ember]

Its headhunters i think that get paid like that

[strange wraith]

Recruiters at big tech are actually pretty well paid

[abstract wagon]

recruiters get paid well

[tacit halo]

32k

[thin ember]

cuz they work individually for agency

[thick ridge]

yeah i've heard recruiters make good money as well

[tacit halo]

140k is probably recruiting for experienced hires

[cyan valley]

avg is like 100

sounds about right

[abstract wagon]

also is this all you guys ever talk about

[cyan valley]

thats at google though

[simple saffron]

honeywells interview is so fucking annoying

[cyan valley]

sorry I wasn't here the last 2 times 🤣

[tacit halo]

I’m sure campus recruiters make less

[simple saffron]

why is there a fake typing bubble

[abstract wagon]

@simple saffron is it hackerrank through text messages

oh

[cyan valley]

hackerrank is my fawv

❤️

[tacit halo]

50k sounds reasonable

[obtuse otter]

UCSD?

[cyan valley]

y i k e s

[tacit halo]

U know that an income of 100k individually puts u in the top 14% nationally?

I can’t see a recruiter making more than 86% of Americans

[cyan valley]

It depends what they are recruiting for

Obv a google recruiter

makes a shitton

[thick ridge]

i mean recruiting isn't a job to scoff at

[marsh burrow]

are getting interviews at faang level companies easier as a new grad than as an intern?

[obtuse otter]

what else are neurotic young adults going to do

[cyan valley]

Im sure u need hella qualifications

[obtuse otter]

gotta over analyze everything

[thin ember]

I mean u need to think about recruiters at normal F500 companies too

[tacit halo]

Including campus recruiters?

[thick ridge]

you need people skills

[cyan valley]

Not campus

[thick ridge]

a lot of people don';t have them

[gray barn]

y e p

[cyan valley]

but like

normal f500 recruiters prob make 50-70

[obtuse otter]

someone else told me the same story

[cyan valley]

^

[tacit halo]

Yeah, if ur recruiting for l6, maybe

[obtuse otter]

except they said that microsoft no longer recruits from UCSD

[tacit halo]

This is kinda true

[obtuse otter]

like was this actually microsoft saying "u are no longer a target school"

[tacit halo]

But we still send ppl there every year

[obtuse otter]

or speculation

[tacit halo]

Pure speculation I believe

[obtuse otter]

cause im not going to lie i dont think UCSD was ever a target school 😭

[gray barn]

it is confirmed we are no longer a target school

via email

[tacit halo]

For Apple it is

For quant, hell no

[thick ridge]

doesnt ucsd have a rlly nice campus

[tacit halo]

I guess

[cyan valley]

any uc has a nice campus

[sinful tusk]

Anyone got a weird Honeywell text message to apply for a internship role?

[cyan valley]

legit palm trees

lol.

[tacit halo]

Okay. But I don’t feel the vibe there

[cyan valley]

@sinful tusk scam

[tacit halo]

I’d honestly prefer to be at usc

[obtuse otter]

like they won't come to campus career fairs anymore?

[tacit halo]

Probably gonna transfer there

[cyan valley]

where do u go?

[tacit halo]

San Diego

[cyan valley]

usd?

uc*

[tacit halo]

UCSD

[cyan valley]

pretty

[sinful tusk]

Should I troll?

[cyan valley]

Hows the weather

@sinful tusk lmfao do it

[tacit halo]

The situation I was in was very different when I first entered in fall 2019

[obtuse otter]

and was it rlly the reneger's fault? i feel like someone renegeing won't really cause ur school to get delisted as target

[cyan valley]

say the link isn't working

🤣

[tacit halo]

Quite good

Except winter is freezing

[cyan valley]

lol

[obtuse otter]

imagine microsoft no longer targetting MIT cause of a renege 😭

[gray barn]

there won't be a recruiter assigned to UCSD, you have to apply like everyone else

[cyan valley]

u think ur winter is freezing

[tacit halo]

It’s like 55 degrees right now

[cyan valley]

LOL?

[tacit halo]

That’s freezing

[cyan valley]

IM DED

Imagine living in NY

-10 winter

💀

[tacit halo]

I’m used to 75-85 degree weather

In San Diego

[thick ridge]

its a clean 20 degrees rn

[obtuse otter]

i think in that case it was because career services didn't punish the reneger

[tacit halo]

It’s all about perspective

[obtuse otter]

not because he renege'd

[cyan valley]

Gotta rep that north face

and canadia goose

🤣

[tacit halo]

I’ve never seen snow before

[cyan valley]

.....

ur trollin

[gray barn]

they did lol, the dept raised hell on that person for it

[cyan valley]

60-70best

[tacit halo]

I spent my whole life in California

[cyan valley]

damn

[tacit halo]

High 60’s is fine

[cyan valley]

are utryin to go

[obtuse otter]

bro

[cyan valley]

bay area

[tacit halo]

65 degrees is comfortable

[cyan valley]

or move out

[tacit halo]

55 is not

[cyan valley]

fr

hoodie 4 life

[tacit halo]

Well, night is colder

55 degrees at night is worse

Than 55 degrees in the sun

I’ll take an Uber to go half a mile

To avoid walking in 55 degree weather at night

[cyan valley]

canada goose 💀 🤣

[tacit halo]

I’d say 70 degree weather is ideal

Above 90 is too hot

My parents hate cold

That’s why they left nyc right before I was born

[obtuse otter]

do u have the email in question?

like im looking on reddit, the person reneged 2 years ago, 1 year after that there was still a ms recruiter

alex did u get an email abt it?

cause ik ur at ucsd too

[tacit halo]

No email about it

But Microsoft has ghosted me

[gray barn]

it was from someone who emailled a recruiter directly

asking about UCSD's status

[strange wraith]

Wait what’s happening with ucsd and MSFT

[tacit halo]

This is the view from my bedroom

The sky and ocean are so beautiful and blue

[obtuse otter]

yo

thats actually nice asf

[cyan valley]

wtf

how bout that COL 💀

[tacit halo]

Average house here is like $2.7M

So it’s a common number

[cyan valley]

...

are u trolling

or srs

[tacit halo]

Serious

U won’t find anything for under $1M here

[cyan valley]

LOL???????????

How many bed/bath

[tacit halo]

Okay 1.9M

2.7M was if u exclude apartments and condos

[cyan valley]

bro ur trollin NO WAY

how many bedrooms bath and floors

[tacit halo]

In my house?

[cyan valley]

yh

[tacit halo]

4 bed, 5.5 baths

[cyan valley]

3 floors?

[tacit halo]

Yes

[cyan valley]

when i hear 1mil house i think megamansion

holyshit

lol

[tacit halo]

This is La Jolla

$300k will buy u a mansion in Texas

I heard Bay Area is even worse

[cyan valley]

👋 im moving to texas

fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk that

[gray barn]

let me dm you the email

[simple saffron]

I got asked a LC medium with 15 mins left in my interview...

wtf

[tacit halo]

$1-2M median in Bay Area

[cyan valley]

LOL?

For what

[tacit halo]

Our salaries are high for a reason

[simple saffron]

dont wanna say

[cyan valley]

bro

how

do u even

afford

a house then

Like imagine starting from nothing

[tacit halo]

If new grads make 200k, then I could see it

[cyan valley]

U get a degree

U have college loanss to pay

u have taxes

and appartments is ur only option

at the begining

[tacit halo]

It takes time to buy a house

[cyan valley]

which is like

3-4k a month

[tacit halo]

U rent for 5 or 6 years

[cyan valley]

thats legit like

[tacit halo]

And save up

[cyan valley]

i n s a n e

or just

rent for 4 years

move to texas

live in megamansion

sounds like the wave

[tacit halo]

Elon is moving to Texas

[cyan valley]

elon is 👑

[tacit halo]

I like Elon

Although my father said that Elon is the next Bernie madoff or something

Idk

Is it bad that I look up to Elon?

[cyan valley]

no

hes nice

[tacit halo]

Yeah, he’s a do-gooder

Who will help us in the future

Some people say that Elon is immature, but I believe that his personality is the reason why Tesla is successful

[cyan valley]

yeee

[dapper shard]

What’s Honeywell guys?

[tacit halo]

Some consumer electronics company

F500 I think

They’re very old

Ipo’d in 1984

Make like fans and air purifiers

[round sparrow]

pay?

for honeywell

[dapper shard]

No idea

[warped wind]

wth happened at UCSD

[dapper shard]

?

[frozen palm]

honeywell is also involved in defense and other industriees

[cyan valley]

@dapper shard How have u not heard of honnywell

lol

[dapper shard]

Idk

Just haven’t

[still gazelle]

i hadnt heard of honeywell till now

[frozen palm]

theyre fortune 100

do aerospace, construction

[dapper shard]

!salary Honeywell

[small fossil]

Unable to locate data on Honeywell

[dapper shard]

Okay well I’m not interested then

[still gazelle]

LMAO

[dapper shard]

They sound kind of boring tbh

[still gazelle]

they dont need to know

like if you break up with your girlfriend cuz of another girl, ur not gonna tell her that

ok another analogy. if you cancel on a date cuz of another girl. ur not gonna tell her that

u dont get anything from it

[tacit halo]

Microsoft blacklisted us

I have no idea why

[terse torrent]

@dapper shard f i got rejected then probably

What salary did u put

[warped wind]

I did some digging and this seems to be the sauce: https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSD/comments/8bblij/garys_reading_the_email_in_class_rn/

[cyan valley]

!salary google

[small fossil]

https://www.levels.fyi/salary/Google/

[cyan valley]

does this work

o

[vivid lintel]

This is hilarious lmao

The student was like "what are you gonna do? 😏"

[tacit halo]

Okay, so they’re doing this cuz of one person?

[vivid lintel]

And then the recruiter shows who is boss

[tacit halo]

I feel like blacklist is an over exaggeration

That’s just stupid

People renege all the time

When they’ve gotten thousands of good candidates it’s really not a big deal

It’s not the schools fault either

It’s the students fault

[vivid lintel]

Nah companies really do be petty like that

It's unfortunate

[tacit halo]

Drama on steroids

[vivid lintel]

Also the student literally told the recruiter no one has faced negative consequences for reneging in the past

[tacit halo]

Dumbest thing in the world

[tacit halo]

Okay, this is a 20 year old

Not enough exposure to the real world

[vivid lintel]

So I feel like that's enough to piss off a recruiter

[vivid lintel]

Yea unfortunately

[low epoch]

Another reason to keep your mouth shut and/or give vague reasons for reneging or just lie and say family illness or somethin

if recruiter wants to phone call after the reneging i’d probably entertain that too but stick to my story; and yeah even tho msft reserves the right it’s logically incoherent to do that and lose out on a pool of talent

but whatever, these are the same companies who have historically neglected URM’s and non top schoolers years back so what do they care

[tacit halo]

Yeah I don’t feel bad at all about reneging on them

These companies are evil

[low epoch]

If I was a ucsd student this would infuriate me

[tacit halo]

Okay that’s an overstatement

[low epoch]

as a matter of principle, i find it outrageous

[tacit halo]

But the cost of a student reneging is literally trivial

[low epoch]

That there is a strong ethical burden placed on a student where the power dynamics differential is so huge. Not to mention a mere intern position

[tacit halo]

These companies are swimming in cash

[vivid lintel]

You hit it on the nail

Why should other students suffer because of one bad apple?

[tacit halo]

Yeah, I find it much more unethical that the company can ruin the students entire career over and for everyone else at the same school

Yeah, bad apples are everywhere

Are we really gonna pretend that this is super rare?

[stiff vessel]

if microsoft blacklisted your school its very unlikely it was due to one person

[low epoch]

Ok but then what the fuck is in the water at ucsd making hordes of kids renege msft specifically?

It must be a grand number

[vivid lintel]

Ok that is fair, the student implied other students had reneged in the past as well

With no consequences

[tacit halo]

Even if it’s 10 people, it really isn’t a reflection of the school

[stiff vessel]

its not like a one time thing either

[low epoch]

this student said something stupid to a human in a position of power who then said who knows what to someone with more power

[vivid lintel]

But still, it seems like this one student's behavior pushed them over the fence

[thick ridge]

oof my interview was kinda tough but the dude was super nice

[stiff vessel]

if theres a demonstrated history of a significant number of students reneging from a certain school then ofc msft would 'blacklist'

[low epoch]

the feather that broke the camel’s back...maybe

[tacit halo]

One student shouldn’t have any impact on an entire school

[low epoch]

You really wanna know what msft shoulda done then? Give the school a number. Data.

X amount of ppl reneged

“Fix your ethics ucsd”

[stiff vessel]

thats because they have incentive to gun for those students

its a business decision

[tacit halo]

For everyone that reneges, they probably have several great hires

[low epoch]

Ethically yes

[stiff vessel]

whether its moral or ethical is another conversation

but from business pov it makes sense

[low epoch]

Ok so in terms of what they lose, yeah i agree

[stiff vessel]

they can get those great hires elsewhere, there are plenty of people that want to work at msft

[tacit halo]

They lose a couple thousand dollars

[low epoch]

Nothing except a pool of idk how many people graduate

[stiff vessel]

without having to deal with the reneg risk

[tacit halo]

U and ur school have a permanent stain

[stiff vessel]

^

[low epoch]

Ah that changes everything

Completely

[tacit halo]

It’s just hilarious

In a bad way

[low epoch]

Then ucsd fucked up

[stiff vessel]

the only real blacklisting ive seen is like baml blacklisting princeton kids cause 80% of them would reneg

[tacit halo]

How much does it actually cost a company if someone reneges?

They ghost plenty of perfectly qualified candidates, so it’s not like they have a shortage of talent lol

I do not feel bad at all

Did one medium last night

And solved it on my own

[low epoch]

With no hands

In ocaml

[dapper shard]

Tbh I don’t feel bad for them at all. As someone who comes from a school with literally zero pipelines for any company they should be happy they msft

Stop

[low epoch]

Yeah dawg it’s a freaking pipeline that is a privilege

It’s msft, damn good

[patent sluice]

lol did msft stop going to their career fairs

or did they blacklist all students from that school

cause those are different things

thats honestly hilarious tho LOL

[stiff vessel]

and how many ppl get microsoft from a career fair over just applying online anyway

[low epoch]

But like thanos said they aint gonna blacklist mit. Even IF 50% of acceptees renege

[lethal ore]

That sucks if they blacklist everyone in that school

[stiff vessel]

whenever msft comes to my school they just give info and take a resume drop occassionally

[dapper shard]

Literally the best company pipeline I have at my school is fucking Acxiom

[low epoch]

Exxon mobil for us

Freaking texas oil

[cyan valley]

@dapper shard what is axiom

[dapper shard]

Shit data company. Well shit imo

[cyan valley]

what schoo?

[dapper shard]

Uca. Uni of central Arkansas

Our Acxiom location has terrible hiring practices, only takes like five interns, and boring work

The most interesting thing they do is Hadoop

And that’s only a branch of their company

[cyan valley]

5 interns dam

[dapper shard]

all for QA testing

not even SWE

[simple jay]

if theres a person who got hired from ucsd at msft they aint blacklisted lol

lol i legit filtered by ucsd and msft and theres pages

[karmic dome]

is summer recruiting mostly done 😦

[dapper shard]

no

maybe at bigger companies, but otherwise no not at all

[karmic dome]

i thought i was gonna get an offer but they said they filled out all the spots today

feels bad

[cyan valley]

@karmic dome where

prob just cap

[proper mountain]

i have heard about students visiting company's offices, how do I get the same opportunity?

[simple saffron]

try being in not a pandemic first

but usually on-sites are on-site

hence the name on-site

[low epoch]

I know a guy who visited trump’s office

[tacit halo]

What company?

[icy juniper]

Damn I got my amazon final tomorrow kinda nervous

[pulsar shadow]

you can do it

I believe in you

[icy juniper]

Thanks for the faith 🙏

I just hope they don't throw a Lc hard or something

[abstract wagon]

頑張れ

[icy juniper]

It's just so rng

[abstract wagon]

should be med and LPs

dont stress

[icy juniper]

🙏

Hopefully

Thank you

[abstract wagon]

also has anyone actually done or scheduled the docusign interview past OA

it's been a while and i'm not sure if they're still on break or if they forgot about me

[sinful tinsel]

Do companies usually give lc medium?

How often do they give lc hard?

[pulsar shadow]

not often for intern

[abstract wagon]

top ones ask hard pretty often

[sinful tinsel]

Ah

[abstract wagon]

i got hards for fb dropbox snapchat rubrik etc

maybe unlucky

[sinful tinsel]

Dang

What makes it hard is that there are a lot of things you have to figure out at once right?

[abstract wagon]

no

if youve never worked with segment trees i doubt u would figure them out during the interview

that kind of hard

specific algorithms

[sinful tinsel]

Ah

[pulsar shadow]

rip

[sinful tinsel]

So you have to exposed to the algorithm used in the questions, if not you can’t figure it out on the spot for the interview

[abstract wagon]

sometimes it's just a specific insight too

if you can't get that insight you're just fucked

[sinful tinsel]

At the point its just how many questions you expose yourself to

[abstract wagon]

yea exactly

[sinful tinsel]

So quantity does matter

But understanding is key

[dapper shard]

yeah thats usually all it is

[sinful tinsel]

Is lc premium worth getting?

[dapper shard]

some hards are not that difficult to figure out if you know the trick or have seen the insight/intuition to it beforehand

[sinful tinsel]

Or shod I get algoexpert

[abstract wagon]

lc premium yes

[dapper shard]

if not unless you are kind of big brain you probably won't figure it out in an interview setting in time

[pulsar shadow]

get lc premium only for the company tag list

[abstract wagon]

algoexpert only if youre an amateur

[sinful tinsel]

Hm ok

[karmic dome]

braze

[abstract wagon]

rip they only take like 3 interns right?

[karmic dome]

i'm not sure lol

[abstract wagon]

well i hope you got other things incoming anyways

[obtuse otter]

omg

i accidentally swallowed a coke tab

i have an interview tomorrow

[pulsar shadow]

rip bawbdmo

[obtuse otter]

should i email my recruiter in the case that like

[abstract wagon]

accidentally

[obtuse otter]

i get hospitalized

like im waiting it out cause im p to the oor

[pliant hawk]

say sike rn

[obtuse otter]

im fr bro

[pliant hawk]

dear god

[obtuse otter]

dude

i play with the tabs too much

i dropped it in my soda and forgot about it

then started drinking it

and i felt it

nearly started crying im fumbling so hard

[pliant hawk]

lmao

[obtuse otter]

if i get hospitalized then i will have net 0 gain on my internship because all of my money and then some will go to paying hospital bills

fuck my life

fuck america

[abstract wagon]

rest in pepperoni

[obtuse otter]

why dont we have free healthcare

man

if i get hospitalized im letting that shit go to collections

[low epoch]

Can u vomit? No cap

Would that help?

[obtuse otter]

not worth i think chances are it fucks me up more

bc it went down clean

so hopefully it comes out clean

[dapper shard]

you drank a coke tab....?

[humble pendant]

yeah you can choke when triyng to get it back up - don't do it

[obtuse otter]

bro only my dumbass would do something like this

[low epoch]

Well the sooner u do it more likely u can get it out. But if choke risk is real dont do it

[abstract wagon]

true

[pliant hawk]

[dapper shard]

WHY DO YOU PLAY WITH TABS

[obtuse otter]

did not know this was a judgement zone

[low epoch]

Oh u mean coca cola tab

[obtuse otter]

i did an interview with covid now im bouta do one with internal bleeding

[low epoch]

I thought this was some kid slang for cocaine

[obtuse otter]

LETS GOOO 💯

[pulsar shadow]

🙏

[pliant hawk]

we not judging or aty least im not

i pray for u my dude

[low epoch]

BRO ITS METAL WHAT THE HECK PLS IM PRAYIN FOR U

NO JUDGE BUT I FEEL THE FEAR TOO NOW

[obtuse otter]

we starting 2021 out risky 😈

fr tho im scared too LOL

i have never fumbled this hard

[pulsar shadow]

go to the hospital rn

go please

[abstract wagon]

yeah i would go to the hospital

[low epoch]

Maybe eat a ton of fiber to pop out with a solid dookie?

[obtuse otter]

bro im not made out of money i legit cant

[pliant hawk]

i hate this country

[abstract wagon]

debt or death

[obtuse otter]

im going to hope it treats my body alright

[pulsar shadow]

don't fucking die

[obtuse otter]

death

[low epoch]

Actually yeah hospital dont sound bad

[abstract wagon]

yeah me too

[obtuse otter]

dude going to the hospital will actually fuck me over

[low epoch]

Do u have any doc or medschool friends

[obtuse otter]

its like death or wishing u were dead

my med school friend telling me to wait it out

[low epoch]

I mean tbh if they’re saying no they could be right

[abstract wagon]

id just go

[low epoch]

Is ur friend a dumbass

[abstract wagon]

its probably easier to get it out earlier than later

might cost less too

eggos

[pulsar shadow]

eggs

[obtuse otter]

well his aunt deals with dumbass patients like me all the time and she says they usually make the patient wait it out 90% of the time

praying im in the 90%

[low epoch]

Honestly on god u should eat fiber

[abstract wagon]

eggo waffles

[low epoch]

U need a solid healthy dookie

Sry for language

[obtuse otter]

oh no i felt a stomach cramp i fr hope its placebo

it cant happen that quickly

[pulsar shadow]

MONKAS

[abstract wagon]

bro im scared for you

[obtuse otter]

my brain is fucking with me

[low epoch]

If u dont respond by midnight we scared fr

[abstract wagon]

can you just uber to the hospital

[low epoch]

Are u alone or got friends around

[obtuse otter]

the hospital is gonna be insane

im alone rn

[low epoch]

Dont worry bout covid n shit just go

[obtuse otter]

its legit gonna cost 10k for me to go to the hospital

[low epoch]

Potentiall u just wait and no bill

[obtuse otter]

id rather chance it

[abstract wagon]

the edges are kind of crunchy, really nice

[tacit halo]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hOEWUm6aGPg

[patent sluice]

have you guys tried protein waffles

[patent sluice]

whats a coke tab

[tacit halo]

@obtuse otter what happened?

[abstract wagon]

i think its the think you lift to open the can

[tacit halo]

R u okay right now?

[patent sluice]

o

[pulsar shadow]

like the metal thing on the can @patent sluice

[tacit halo]

Wanna make sure everything is fine

[karmic dome]

omg how do you swallow that

[patent sluice]

i think your stomach acid finna digest it

[abstract wagon]

idk chief

[patent sluice]

i thought it was slang for cocaine

[obtuse otter]

im okay rn

[tacit halo]

Internal bleeding is very very very bad

[obtuse otter]

but hopefully i dont like

die

lol

that'd suck

[pulsar shadow]

it's not that sharp so you should be fine

[tacit halo]

From what?

Coke?

[obtuse otter]

idk

the tab

[obtuse otter]

thats what im convincing myself with

[pliant hawk]

ive swallowed a bone and stomach acid did its work or like it flowed naturally

just try to relax

[obtuse otter]

my interviewer would like