2021_summer

[muted leaf]

twitter

[dapper shard]

they are 🙂

really hoping i pass that interview

fuck if i fail FB

[viral fable]

you got this!!!

[dapper shard]

twitter is better than fb anyway. at least for my circumstances

[viral fable]

i’m waiting to hear back from FB too TT___TT

[dapper shard]

after phone interviews?

[viral fable]

final

[dapper shard]

oh 😳

can i dm?

[muted leaf]

good lucks to both of you

[viral fable]

yeah but for reference i didn’t interview for SWE 😅

[dapper shard]

oh welp

nvm then lmao. mine is for SWE lol

was just gonna ask how you prepared is all

[viral fable]

wish i could help ;-;

[marsh meadow]

did yOU JUST ASSUME MY TIMEZONEB😡 😡 😡 ☠️ ☠️ ☠️

[viral fable]

on that note is it worth being nervous if a job posting you interviewed for gets taken down

maybe i’m overthinking it blah

[dapper shard]

wait

is this for data engineering FB?

[viral fable]

data science

[dapper shard]

or yeah that

sorry

[viral fable]

yeahh

[dapper shard]

yeah they like just filled up i think

[viral fable]

i’m gonna cryyyyyy lol

[dapper shard]

as in like

i just heard that like today or yesterday

when did you do final?

[viral fable]

literally last week 😳

[dapper shard]

tbh if you feel like you did good in the interview, i would probably be somewhat optimistic

but don't take my word for it completely 😰

[marsh meadow]

last yr i was at lyft final round and it was one of my best interviews

[dapper shard]

stop

[marsh meadow]

and then they filled up role week later

[muted leaf]

uh oh

[dapper shard]

:/

why

would you do this

[marsh meadow]

we go next tho

[muted leaf]

damn that happened to me with ATT, but they forwarded me to another program that I'm not even qualified for

but not everyone chooses to go to FB so

still some hope

[dapper shard]

if i somehow miraculously get facebook

ill give it to you @viral fable

[viral fable]

hahaha i’m looking for that new smiley-cry emoji cuz it expresses how i feel rn

peepo u r too kind

[still gazelle]

man i hope a few more postings open up

[muted leaf]

do you have an offer? or hoping for other people? just wondering if you don't mind

[still gazelle]

i dont have an offer

[muted leaf]

same boat. feels sadge

[still gazelle]

what yr r u

[muted leaf]

im junior

[still gazelle]

aw shit man

i think in february there might be some more waves

my friend got cloudflare in like may

theres still hope

[muted leaf]

Damn. That gives some hope

[dapper shard]

there is still a fair amount of the season left

i would say if you don't have anything by april i would be kind of worried

[muted leaf]

Do you think taking a gap semester for an internship is not a good idea? I'm thinking of applying to Fall 2021 if I don't get Summer 2021 and just take a gap semester if I do get an offer for Fall 2021.

[still gazelle]

i went from not even knowing what an API is + struggling on LC easies to creating multiple web apps + being able to do most easies and some mediums. either way im happy with my progress this season

[muted leaf]

That's an awesome improvement

[tacit halo]

When was this?

What month/day?

[tacit halo]

It’s not a bad idea

On the other hand, just don’t give up yet

Way too early

We’re maybe 40% through the season

[still gazelle]

no way 40%

more like 60%

[tacit halo]

40-60

But yeah started around 4 months ago

And there’s like 5 months left

[still gazelle]

and it ends in 4 months. i dont think youre gonna be able to get summer internships in june

[tacit halo]

Maybe not at big companies

But at startups yes

Startups are literally always hiring

They can be a lot more flexible

If u don’t get anything by early may, then start reaching out to a bunch of startups and local companies

[tacit halo]

I’d second this

[still gazelle]

im planning on doing that february/march

wrong person lol

[tacit halo]

If it’s for increasing the possibility of getting a good ft offer, it’s not a bad idea

A good internship can lead to a better ft offer

[muted leaf]

Yeah I was thinking of this instead

[dapper shard]

mmm honestly i wouldn't delay graduation for an internship tbh. unless you want to explore a certain company or there is some other personal benefit. but i find that just graduating and going full time is always better.

[muted leaf]

Hmm

[tacit halo]

Since many companies use internship programs as a pipeline to ft

I see it as delaying graduation a bit for the sake of a better ft offer

[dapper shard]

or that i guess. but you better do something during that gap semester to bulk up your resume or do a lot of LC or something

make that gap semester worth it

[still gazelle]

thatd be ideal

[dapper shard]

and not waste it when you could've went full time and gotten paid

hard to find part time internships but i would definitely look at tesla

[still gazelle]

also you dont even NEED a previous internship if you have good projects.

[dapper shard]

they do part time internshis

[tacit halo]

Internship will still pay

And getting a return offer is likely if u do well

[muted leaf]

Oh gosh. That reminds me I need to do some projects

[tacit halo]

At many companies, the return offer rate is like 70%

[dapper shard]

full time gives benefits. and overall swe growth

[tacit halo]

In this case, I would apply to both full time and internships

And when it gets closer to fall, evaluate what u have

[dapper shard]

idk im waiting to see if i have a spring internship and im doing a fall internship hopefully next year even while i take classes. ill quit the internship before i drop classes or push back my graduation

[still gazelle]

man i cant wait till im a sophomore. ill be able to apply to 2-3x more places

[tacit halo]

However, if u can use summer to take classes and not delay graduation, it might be worth it

If u truly don’t have anything this summer, then just take classes

And go for a fall internship

[dapper shard]

summer classes :/

[still gazelle]

fuck alex is right

the way ive heard it is

internship > research > summer classes >>>> doing jack shit

[tacit halo]

Ur much more likely to get an offer at a good company if u interned there

So packing one internship in might be worth it

I would talk to ur advisor or whoever can help u at ur school

[muted leaf]

I was even thinking about taking a gap year to have three internships for fall - spring - summer

[tacit halo]

They can craft a plan for u

[still gazelle]

how many places have u applied so far farmer

[tacit halo]

u still have a good year or so to figure out full time

So there’s time

But I would try to get this sorted out as soon as possible

[dapper shard]

better be on the LC grind to set that up but that would be worth it tbh so then you have options on who you want to go full time with

[muted leaf]

for summer?

[tacit halo]

Well if u get a return offer, then can’t u skip lc altogether?

[still gazelle]

yup

[dapper shard]

i actually think that is just a better idea. take a gap year and do a full year of internships and then have some potential full time offers lined up

[muted leaf]

around 150ish so far

[tacit halo]

Any interviews?

Or upcoming interviews?

[muted leaf]

I started early and then got delayed during semester

Idk how people manage to apply and interview along with classworks

[still gazelle]

it tanked my GPA

[muted leaf]

uh I do get interviews occasionally

[tacit halo]

Honestly, I’m just using pnp this quarter

[still gazelle]

did u get an offer

[tacit halo]

January isn’t that late

April is when I start to get worried

[still gazelle]

bro thats horrible

where at

[dapper shard]

nah that is still a lot of time left in the season tbh. because like spotify for instance is just now starting their hiring process

[tacit halo]

Kanye

Idk

[muted leaf]

🧢

[still gazelle]

u get ur optimism from a bipolar dude

[tacit halo]

The setbacks I’ve dealt with made me more optimistic

And hearing successful people who failed at first

[dapper shard]

ive heard from multiple people that april you probably won't or will have an extremely hard time getting something since most places are done hiring by that point

[tacit halo]

Finding good mentors

[dapper shard]

^

that is true

[tacit halo]

Big n

But not startups

Or local companies

There are tens of thousands of viable companies

[dapper shard]

lmao all the local companies here in arkansas rejected me

[still gazelle]

how long does it usually take for companies to hit yall back after yall apply

[dapper shard]

don't know fucking how

[tacit halo]

I’d say December is the soft deadline

[still gazelle]

skin color

[dapper shard]

depends on the company

[tacit halo]

Maybe closer to February

[still gazelle]

whats it usually like

[tacit halo]

Anywhere from 1 week to 6 months

[still gazelle]

6 months?

what the fuck

[dapper shard]

i pass faang resume screens and get rejected for QA testing at a local company ten min from my college

[tacit halo]

6 months is very common

Just look at amazon

Offers?

No big n

Startups, yes

[dapper shard]

well like for instance Visa i heard back like a week after i applied. and facebook i applied back in august/sept and im just now hearing back and getting an interview

[tacit halo]

Not yet, but I have a few interviews coming up

[still gazelle]

damn bro holy

[tacit halo]

Like confluent

Funded by VC’s

[still gazelle]

a lot of start ups use unpaid interns

[tacit halo]

I won’t take a startup offer unless there’s a good vc begins them

[dapper shard]

bruh stop

[tacit halo]

Also yc startups

Like opensea

[muted leaf]

wait. if the company closed the page to apply, that usually means the position is filled up?

[tacit halo]

They’re willing to pay $40-60 an hour

They raised $4M so far

[dapper shard]

either that or they have all the people that they want to interview lined up

[tacit halo]

But they see their interns as part of their founding team

[muted leaf]

I just realized all pages that I have interview for are fucking closed lmao

[tacit halo]

A yc startup is always a good option

[muted leaf]

damn im on anxiety now again rip

[still gazelle]

bro 40-60 an hour? what the fuck

take that over faang

they pay more

[dapper shard]

nah

think long term

intern pay don't really mean shit tbh

[dapper shard]

unless you gotta pay for college or bills

or take care of family

[dapper shard]

if any of those startups are nearing an IPO and their product looks successful

i would take that over faang

[tacit halo]

They raised 4m

[dapper shard]

like stripe for instance

[tacit halo]

Which is seed funding

They raised a substantial amount of money

And they’re yc

Getting a good referral from a yc founder significantly increases ur chances of getting in

Ur not lying

But opensea barely has anyone applying

So u can intern there any time

Flexible schedule

They look legit tho

[viral fable]

if it makes u feel better peepo and i figured out that we were mistaken about the particular position being filled up

[nova knoll]

Seen some hype about their funding

[tacit halo]

Look who their investors are

Founders fund

Literally the most prestigious vc fund in the world

Lifelong mentorship

Build a relationship with the founder

Have him introduce me to VC’s

[still gazelle]

how much are they paying u

[tacit halo]

I shared the angellist rate

Look above

[still gazelle]

120k for an intern? bro thats fucking quant level

[tacit halo]

Amazon level as well

[simple jay]

i actually dont disagree with alex i think some startups are great places to be

entirely depends on the startup tho

[dapper shard]

depends on if you value experience vs resume bulking more

[tacit halo]

Yc is one of the best seals in the Silicon Valley

[simple jay]

and in this case im referring to startups as pre series D

[tacit halo]

It’s a big deal

Get into yc, really big deal

[dapper shard]

also the startup you would be expected to do more so you'll "learn more and gain more experience"

[tacit halo]

But I guess when we say startups we’re talking about anything that isn’t a unicorn

[dapper shard]

compared to possibly getting a pet project at a bigger company

but personally i would still take amazon over the startup 😬

at least for what i want to achieve/get to in my career

[tacit halo]

Stripe is on par with or better than amazon

[muted leaf]

🦄

[tacit halo]

Also, what about smaller unicorns

[dapper shard]

lmao Stripe better than amazon imo. not close

[tacit halo]

Like ripple?

Amazon pays more 🙂

Amazon pay is inflated it seems

But for all companies the intern pay just seems to be getting higher every year

Not disagreeing

Talking about internships

Not full time

Amazon pays like 130k to interns

Stripe is like 90k

But for full time , stripe >>>>>>>>>>>>> amazon

[simple jay]

thats false lol

[tacit halo]

Join stripe now, u could get rich soon

If it ipos

[tacit halo]

It’s barely above 40

Capital one pays more than all of them

[simple jay]

its like 44 with a 9k housing stipend

assuming u actually work 40/week too lol

[dapper shard]

tbf capital one pays it interns more than their full time new grad engineers

[tacit halo]

After a certain level it doesn’t matter

[tacit halo]

Bait?

[dapper shard]

i would work at twitter for 25/hr if it meant i could get 200k tc ft return offer

[muted leaf]

^

[dapper shard]

lmao someone didn't tell him

capital one baits people hella hard with their intern pay

[tacit halo]

I have a confluent interview

[muted leaf]

is 200k tc ft offer for twitter an average or just one partiuclar person

[dapper shard]

looks like average

[tacit halo]

*3 weeks

It’s on January 18

Scheduled like a month in advance

Also I have rubrik as well

And open door

A bit

I’ve attempted more mediums

And done mock interview

I did 44 over the past 2 weeks

17 easies, 25 mediums

[dapper shard]

twitter hella fat

[still gazelle]

howd it go

[tacit halo]

Did u get an offer?

[dapper shard]

did you get it 🥺

[muted leaf]

what's the website?

[dapper shard]

honestly

i don't blame you

[muted leaf]

oh dang

[still gazelle]

levels.fyi @muted leaf

[muted leaf]

oh

[still gazelle]

its the bible

[muted leaf]

didnt realize lol

[dapper shard]

the fact you could go through the interviews and get to host matching and get rejected is some ass

[muted leaf]

wth is host matching

[dapper shard]

what google does after the three interviews to determine what team you will go to

[still gazelle]

wheres ur offer at andre

[dapper shard]

HRT 😳

[still gazelle]

king

[tacit halo]

U got the interview?

Are they lenient in who they give interviews too

[dapper shard]

what made you withdraw from uber for msft?

just curious

[tacit halo]

Did u network a lot to get these interviews?

What did u do?

[dapper shard]

probably just applied and sent the occasional cold email

oh

[tacit halo]

Networking as in emailing recruiters?

[viral fable]

how long did you have to wait for host-matching that made you want to withdraw?

[still gazelle]

recruiters what they cant have

[dapper shard]

when i was in the process with google they told me it could take anywhere from 4 weeks (if you already have an offer i assume) to 8 weeks

[still gazelle]

20% of cs majors get 80% of the offers

[viral fable]

omg wild

[dapper shard]

besides google for junior year internship honestly isn't that ideal

i would take any other faang offer over google for junior year

[still gazelle]

google makes u interview again right?

[dapper shard]

yeah

[muted leaf]

bruh

[dapper shard]

slick people at my college started acting different after they found out i had an offer to jp morgan

[viral fable]

is the percentage of people who don’t get matched known 😳

[still gazelle]

...

[strange wraith]

lowkey host matching is the most shitty process of all time lmao

[still gazelle]

does anyone else like not tell anyone

[strange wraith]

recruiter was like can take up to 8 weeks

[dapper shard]

tbh idk.

[tacit halo]

Google is still r requiring right?

[strange wraith]

insta withdraw right there

[viral fable]

i’m still trying to process its existence lol

[dapper shard]

depends on your school ive noticed. people at big schools its like a common thing ive seen. my school im the only person with an internship afaik let alone to somewhere somewhat notable

ong. straight bums lmao

[viral fable]

those are called clout-chasers

aaaaaaa

[still gazelle]

facts bro thats why i aint gonna brag bout shit

[tacit halo]

I can get crypto hedge funds, but I can’t get faang

[dapper shard]

lmao people asked me how i got the offer and when i told them how many applications i sent out they stopped asking about it

[tacit halo]

Honestly, I’m not gonna judge ur clout till ur like 5-10 years out of school

[still gazelle]

how many did u send @dapper shard

[dapper shard]

211 by oct 1st

[still gazelle]

superficial people attract other superficial people

[tacit halo]

I stopped counting after like the 5th application

[still gazelle]

real attract real

[dapper shard]

i kept a spreadsheet since this is my first recruiting season

[tacit halo]

Won’t say fake

Just uninformed

[dapper shard]

next season im not doing it though

nah fake

[still gazelle]

superficial is more accurate than fake

i just want one offer. i dont mind working at a 15/hr internship at some no name company. i just dont wanna have to bust my ass for $12 an hour at some dead end job

[viral fable]

after my first internship my coworker who used to never acknowledge me asked for a referral 😭😭

[dapper shard]

aye no cap im that black dude that comes into class with a durag. people be surprised when i pass test @abstract wagon

@still gazelle do you use ripplematch?

[still gazelle]

i tried it man

im a freshman bro

[dapper shard]

hmm

ohh

[still gazelle]

they dont gimme shit

[dapper shard]

i forget that

[still gazelle]

bro next yr. im gonna be poppin off with interviews. i stg

i aint ever gonna be down this bad

[dapper shard]

honestly i would say look into research, LC grind, and find some local maybe even unpaid opportunities. thing with unpaid opportunities, know that you can walk away at any time and you are doing stuff solely for yourself and not the company

makes it more bearable

[still gazelle]

im trying to do research next sem. (problem is my advisors havent put me in the class yet)

NLP research bro

[muted leaf]

i get matched with ripplematch, but they never give me an offer

always in final round of interview, good bye

[dapper shard]

i had 15 matches and 13 interviews scheduled from ripplematch before i withdrew from them

[tacit halo]

Well not all offers are created equally

[viral fable]

that’s awesome, i definitely wish i thought to do research freshman yr

[tacit halo]

Would u say a non big n still has leverage?

[dapper shard]

and a lot of the defense companies are easier to get into as well

yes

[tacit halo]

Email a bunch of professors

[muted leaf]

yeah I interviewed with them a lot and was confident with some but welp

[still gazelle]

i emailed one and she said yes so yea

[tacit halo]

It took me like 2 emails to get my research positions and mentorship

[dapper shard]

i know brett (the mod) got into lockheed martin his freshman year @still gazelle

[tacit halo]

Professors are very open to helping

So does my crypto hedge fund offer hold weight?

[dapper shard]

i mean its an offer?

[still gazelle]

i fucking missed lockheed martin deadline for austin

[tacit halo]

It’s owned by the founder of coin base

[dapper shard]

all the offer does is show that you are desired by other companies

so that company that you are emailing might not want to miss out on you

[tacit halo]

Well there’s a million companies out there

[dapper shard]

okay?

[tacit halo]

Offer from guy in garage means nothing

[still gazelle]

bro

[tacit halo]

Offer from Microsoft is a huge deal

[dapper shard]

offer from anywhere i better than nothing

[tacit halo]

I don’t want it to look bad

[tacit halo]

I guess

[dapper shard]

-_-

[tacit halo]

What about interviews

[dapper shard]

i would mention those too

[tacit halo]

Like I could also say I’m in the interview process for x

[still gazelle]

if a guy is good enough to get a MSFT offer, hes probably good enough to be at any faang/unicorn

[dapper shard]

again shows desirability

[still gazelle]

hes already proven

[tacit halo]

Even oa is good enough

Since it’s not lying

[dapper shard]

just market yourself

[tacit halo]

Just say ur in the interview process

Like I got the JP Morgan pymetrics

I say in my emails I’m in the interview process there

It’s a recognizable name

Just find some way to market urself

[viral fable]

alex, didn’t you just answer your own question?

[tacit halo]

Look, I’m just anxious

[still gazelle]

bro ur always anxious man

[tacit halo]

Shit it’s past 2am

[still gazelle]

you work so hard bro

just relax

[tacit halo]

Didn’t even realize it

Yeah my sleep schedule needs a change

Sleeping from 4am to 12pm is just bad

Even though it’s what all of us do

[still gazelle]

school starts in a week

i gotta fix it or im fucked

[tacit halo]

Honestly remote classes have made me lazier

Since there’s no real schedule

[viral fable]

oops i just screwed mine up today by chugging two bobas

[tacit halo]

And no motivation to attend lecture

And everything is now open book, do whenever

However, I got a 4.0 last quarter

But the catch is that I could retroactively pass no pass classes and make reality whatever I wanted it to be

I want to see snow

No

I consider 60 degrees freezing

Well we had snow in like 1970

And there’s snowy mountains a few hours away

But my parents hate snow

That’s why they left ny

I’m used to 90 degree weather

Honestly same

It gets too damn hot here

[dapper shard]

im not going to fix my sleep schedule

[tacit halo]

We go to Arizona several times a year

[dapper shard]

this is about when i got to bed during school anyway

[tacit halo]

Grandfather lives there

I’m fixing it today as well

I’ll set a hard bed time at like 1 or 2 am

And not wake up any later than 9

[dapper shard]

lmao i have class at 10am this semester so im straight

long as i got to bed by 5am ill be fine

[viral fable]

cries in 20 degree weather as the sun is rising

[tacit halo]

Going to classes is now optional

No one shows up to lecture after like the first day

[viral fable]

east coast

[dapper shard]

if you have more than five unexcused absences to classes at my school they give you an F for the entire class

[tacit halo]

Even during remote learning?

[dapper shard]

yes

[tacit halo]

We have a policy that they can’t grade based on attendance

And that everything must be offered asynchronously

[dapper shard]

20% of my grade in classes is attendance sometimes

usually it is 15% though

[tacit halo]

Yeah 15% was typical during normal times

Usually, it was like attend half the time, get the full 15%, or have it replaced with ur test grades

Math department at my school is a bitch

There’s no accountability among lecturers

And they refuse to talk about grades

Actual professors are very caring

Well, having ur entire grade as two tests is also annoying

The curves are kinda harsh as well

They try to set the median grade in the class to like a c+

Anyway probably gonna go to bed now

[abstract wagon]

wow mandatory attendance in college sound particular

during in person classes how do they know if you attending? How many people are there?

[twin obsidian]

Clickers

[dapper shard]

classes aren't big at my school

so class size is usually around 23-30

[sinful oar]

i miss being in a large class

[keen birch]

those 200 person lecture halls hit different

[sinful oar]

my classes were at most 30 students and those were for general requirement classes

can’t imagine being in a class triple in size

[terse torrent]

😦 boba gone

[thick ridge]

where'd boba go

[terse torrent]

He got tilt at someone here

And left

[thick ridge]

lol just read that conversation

was cringe af

[simple saffron]

anyone take the flex port OA?

[icy juniper]

no boba left he was helpful

[reef mulch]

Has anyone interviewed for Twitch? Specifically to intern with a mobile team?

[simple saffron]

wait wtf boba is gone?

MY KING

[thick ridge]

hopefully he comes back lol

[potent creek]

working for twitch seems pretty fun

[tacit halo]

Okay, I decided to wake up now and it seems that ppl need advice on startups. Look, I know this is long overdue, but blog post is underway. This is my first time doing something like this so it’s taking much longer than expected

But it will be done!

But I’m general, I’d suggest the yc site

As well as angellist

And startup.jobs

But the best results come from cold emailing

Look for recently funded startups in crunchbase

And fundz

And reach out

Also just type in “we’re hiring” on LinkedIn and founders will come up

[tacit halo]

I think they’re hiring till at least next month

Last oa is like in early feb or something

[potent creek]

I alr have an internship

[tacit halo]

At twitch?

[potent creek]

no

[tacit halo]

Oh

[potent creek]

does twitch do ng hiring

i should look into that

[tacit halo]

Yeah I think they do

[cyan valley]

I just realized

Does netflix like not have interns for summer

[tacit halo]

They have data science interns

[cyan valley]

@tacit halo Got u anything software related or na

[tacit halo]

Nah

Only full time

And usually requires 3-4 years of experience

[cyan valley]

Nuts

[thick ridge]

im legit shitting bricks rn for an interview that's in 5 hours

did not expect myself to be this nervous lmao

[loud hollow]

good luck!

ez dubs

[thick ridge]

let's hope lol

[simple saffron]

gl

[terse torrent]

Gl

[karmic fog]

gl

u got this king 👑

[thick ridge]

thank u lads

[pulsar shadow]

you got this

[merry dirge]

@thick ridge what funny?

[runic tinsel]

goldman's summer analyst isn't for grad students right

[patent sluice]

idts

[earnest musk]

t mobile will send 5 different emails saying 'hi we're still here' before they send me a reject i bet

[sinful oar]

sounds accurate

[runic tinsel]

has anyone here interviewed for multiple salesforce companies at one time? like say quip and tableau in one season

[torn dagger]

has tmobile even started their internship stuff yet

i keep getting emails

they all seem automated

[strong dove]

No clue

They just keep spammMing

Idk why

[runic tinsel]

im startng to get seriously depressed about the internship search

any suggestions on how to cope with this?

[strong dove]

I feel you boi

I been in it since August

[runic tinsel]

ive been through way too many disappointments

[strong dove]

No success

150+ apps

[runic tinsel]

like i didnt get a return offer n 2019

my manager just threw all his emotional baggage on me

this was at a FAANG

and ive been unable to even get 1 offer since september 2019

[strong dove]

Ouch

Sorry :(

It's been tough because of covid.

It's not you man.

[muted leaf]

what year are you @runic tinsel

[runic tinsel]

i was basically just taken on as an intern so he could get a promo to eng manager which he did midway through summer so he ended up dipping to india for the last 3 weeks

and gave me a bad rating with 0 feedback

[strong dove]

Stonks. I'm in India rn and reading this made me sad.

[runic tinsel]

i was a rising senior when i did my faang internship but i couldnt find a job out of school (yeah im such a dumbo right) so i enrolled in a graduate program (was on F1 and used up half my unemployment days)

[muted leaf]

that's tough....

[runic tinsel]

i cant even focus on schoolwork tbh

[obtuse otter]

wait you didn't get any interviews with faang on your resume?

[muted leaf]

not dumbo at all man. please don't be harsh on yourself

[runic tinsel]

i barely get interviews man

[obtuse otter]

bro wtf is wrong with your mentor that sucks

[runic tinsel]

and when i do it's always a leetcode hard tagged question, im not even lying

[obtuse otter]

he's out here literally making your life hard for 0 reason

jesus

do u think its an issue with your resume getting parsed?

[runic tinsel]

nope, ive checked that multiple times

i just think its sponsorship

i could get google interviews

[obtuse otter]

oh you're intl?

[runic tinsel]

for both APM intern and SWE intern

failed both

[strong dove]

It's tough for international kids (I'm international)

[cyan valley]

international jeeeez

sounds rough

[runic tinsel]

SWE intern was a close one tho nbecause my recruiter actually called me to reject

[obtuse otter]

if you're international that is honestly even worse because he could literally get u deported

[runic tinsel]

im in a grad program rn

so i "bought" time

[obtuse otter]

hopefully you find something

im rooting for you

[muted leaf]

me too man im rooting for you

[runic tinsel]

there's also definitely some guilt that im making my parents pay an extra $50k just because i fuck up lol

thanks

[abstract wagon]

This is Amazon right?

[runic tinsel]

no

[muted leaf]

uh oh

[strong dove]

That's what I thought

[muted leaf]

^

[humble pendant]

Facebook?

[runic tinsel]

don't wanna mention the exact company name

but yeah one of the FAANGMULAS

[muted leaf]

when did the list get expanded

[humble pendant]

fair enough - tbh all these companies have bad managers

[runic tinsel]

that being said tho not all managers are like this

[runic tinsel]

i was just watching a video of joma tech so he used this term lol

[humble pendant]

there's also FAANGULTAD lol

[muted leaf]

lmfao

what's this list based on tho, tc?

[humble pendant]

i think thats the origin yeah

[tulip jay]

Airbnb isnt hiring interns this yr at all right

[soft hazel]

acronym?

[cyan valley]

Why is netflix on FAANG

It confuses me 🤣

Replace the N with a T for tesla

🤣

[silk ridge]

FAAG

[cyan valley]

FAATG

[thick ridge]

abnb

[limber hazel]

snap

[silk ridge]

just pretend the n is nvidia

[marsh burrow]

we should just say Big N honestly

acronyms are ridiculous

[dark junco]

Oh absolutely

[obtuse otter]

c1 being big n is cap

[thick ridge]

bro has a thing for c1

[dark junco]

Ehh C1 I disagree

[obtuse otter]

dude gets horny over c1 i SWEAR

[still gazelle]

cap1 is big for interns aight for new grads

[dark junco]

I wouldn't say any traditional bank is big n for SWE

[obtuse otter]

so is mcdonalds

[earnest musk]

mcdonalds is in chicago so

its honestly not terrible

[thick ridge]

burger king big n

FAANGBK

[earnest musk]

lmao i reneg-ed cfa

[still gazelle]

you know what else is big 😉 (my github)

[earnest musk]

chick fil a

[earnest musk]

my reject count

[obtuse otter]

i would work at chick fil a if being an engineer there guaranteed u free food

that would be

SO LIT

dude i used to be a dining room host there and we didnt even get free food

i used to sneak chicken from the fridge

[earnest musk]

bro chick fil a was NOT paying enough

when i got my offer

[marsh burrow]

nope big n = > 150k for new grad

[earnest musk]

but the chicken was tempting

[still gazelle]

what

i want what ur smokin bro

[obtuse otter]

dude chick fil a seems like a cool company becuase they're nice until they'd rather spend their money eradicating queer people than paying their workers fairly

[still gazelle]

yes

lemme list out a few better ones. hrt, two sigma, js, citadel, de shaw

boom

[obtuse otter]

aint no way i was paid minimum wage to stand outside in the hot ass weather kissing ass to impatient people

[still gazelle]

bro who the fuck cares if my dick gets rode. just give me more money.

[thick ridge]

c1 perks r nice

but money can buy perks

[earnest musk]

yes that was my interview in a nutshell

[cyan valley]

what is c1?

capital one?

[earnest musk]

yes

[simple saffron]

c1 logo ugly

therefore theyre f tier

[cyan valley]

Chase >

[still gazelle]

bro id rather not be forced to hang out with my collages after my 40 hrs

[earnest musk]

lmao

[cyan valley]

Chase is king 👑

[thick ridge]

agree

[earnest musk]

hard agree

[thick ridge]

c1 needs better logo shit looks like boomer company

[marsh burrow]

Clipboard Health is the most prestigious internship

$6/hr

[earnest musk]

i think i moved my c1 account to etrade because of the logo alone

[simple saffron]

yeah their logo was the only reason i didnt apply

[cyan valley]

How much is c1 salary

[still gazelle]

probably india

[cyan valley]

50?

[pulsar shadow]

GAFA > faangmulas

[still gazelle]

their intern and new grad salaries are about the same iirc

[earnest musk]

shoutout to nvidia for going from 134 to 530 and i made bank

[cyan valley]

Wtf?

LoL

[simple saffron]

around 100k toc

[cyan valley]

100k where

[simple saffron]

virginia

[cyan valley]

chicago?

virgina

cheap

Nice

[simple saffron]

yeah but its fucking virginia

[cyan valley]

thats true

[thick ridge]

53 is ny

didnt u get 57

[still gazelle]

who tf wants to live in virginia

[cyan valley]

i wouldn't wanna go virgina

[still gazelle]

ive lived there for abit

its ass

[cyan valley]

NY/Chi/Bay

Miss me with everything else

Seattle^

[still gazelle]

bro just give me remote or seattle or austin

[simple saffron]

damn youre doing verona dirty bro

[cyan valley]

Big city

[still gazelle]

big hipster cities is what i like

[cyan valley]

M a d i s o n

[earnest musk]

yall just wanna skateboard to work with a soy latte in hand dont you

[simple saffron]

id only live in the DMV

[cyan valley]

LMFAO

DMV

[humble pendant]

FAANG + uber, lyft, twitter, airbnb, dropbox

[earnest musk]

yes im p sure

[thick ridge]

department of motor vehicles

[cyan valley]

N in FAANG now stands for Nvida

@abstract wagon x to doubt have u been to the beach 🤣

[simple saffron]

I only wanna work for Big P

Parler

[lethal ore]

Parler final round

[simple saffron]

Parler Palantir big PP

[cyan valley]

Loool palatinr

[still gazelle]

isnt palantir racist

[simple saffron]

nah palantir is actually not that bad

parler is awful tho

[cyan valley]

what is a parler

[simple saffron]

right-wing twitter

[pulsar shadow]

what is the acronym for the finance trading companies

[simple saffron]

25HCD

[still gazelle]

just say quant comapnies

[cyan valley]

Q u a n t

Is it just me or are quant oa's insane

[simple saffron]

hudson river trading or bust

[still gazelle]

even the two sigma freshman one had an lc medium

[cyan valley]

lol LC medium as a freshmen

💀

Im pretty HRT was 2 meds + 2 hards

[still gazelle]

jesus

[cyan valley]

I straight up closed the test

[still gazelle]

how much time

[cyan valley]

2 hrs

[still gazelle]

oh

[cyan valley]

I couldn't solve problem 1

[still gazelle]

bruhhh

[cyan valley]

Then I opened problem 2

And closed the test

[patent sluice]

nova is ok cause you live close to dc

are you from va

[pulsar shadow]

rip

[still gazelle]

ive lived there. and a lot of my relatives live there so i go there often.

[patent sluice]

same

[still gazelle]

dc is lit tho

[obtuse otter]

two sigma freshman OA was lowk too much for freshman but pretty typical for an OA I thought

[still gazelle]

yup thats the point. they have 8 spots. they want the best and the brightst

[simple saffron]

8 spots??

holy shit

[obtuse otter]

yeah they 100% want like usaco plats

idek what the point of running a freshman program with 8 spots is

feel like its just to drum up their prestige

[thick ridge]

yeah if anything they should just cherry pick candidates instead of having people apply

its a bait

[soft hazel]

as someone who got in, its def for the prestige

but I think there are a lot of smarter freshmen

who should have got the spots

[still gazelle]

you got two sigma freshman?

[thick ridge]

yes

[soft hazel]

its not a particularly spectacular program

when I was a freshman yes

I didn't take it

[still gazelle]

mind if i dm u

im in the process of interviewing

[obtuse otter]

THIS CONVERSATION WASNT MEANT FOR U

okay

[still gazelle]

bro rejects two sigma freshman

LMAO

[obtuse otter]

i knew they accepted more than 8 people

bc people def get it than reject

what did u reject it for

[soft hazel]

they take around 14 if I remember

different trading company

[obtuse otter]

oh

[still gazelle]

bruh

[obtuse otter]

casually reject ts freshman for other trading company

spit

[soft hazel]

process: OA, "survey to see if you are not a lunatic", CodeSignal Test (average difficulty), On-Site

idk cutoffs

[obtuse otter]

wait codesignal?

fr?

[soft hazel]

yeah

[obtuse otter]

oh

i didnt read that correctly

why is there a code signal after the hackerrank

😭

so that's why they gave so many people questionnaires

[soft hazel]

final round is quite cancerous

[still gazelle]

what was the difficulty of the questions

[soft hazel]

I had Greedy Prefix Sums, Traveling Salesman DP, "Implement Set of Instructions for a Robot in a Grid"

then 2 behaviorals

[still gazelle]

final round?

[soft hazel]

that was my final round

[still gazelle]

jesus

[soft hazel]

all people had same questions

[still gazelle]

how was the code signal

[thick ridge]

thats not horrible honestly

but ig for a freshman program

[soft hazel]

code signal was average difficulty

traveling salesman dp is not common imo

unless USACO scrub

[remote geyser]

how did interview work for interns pre-covid?

was it all online/virtual as well?

[soft hazel]

on-site was in person

everything else was virtual

[still gazelle]

ur a fuckin monster man

[remote geyser]

so did they fly you out or were you required to pay fare yourself ?

[soft hazel]

they paid for everything

[loud hollow]

so only completive programmers fresh outta hs can pass two sig freshman program interview LOL

[soft hazel]

@loud hollow the people who got the offers were essentially that

• 2 MOPpers

[still gazelle]

....

[loud hollow]

bruh i wouldve gotten my ankles broken by the final

even now LOL

[remote geyser]

it sounds outlandish but there are are a lot

[still gazelle]

i can do some leetcode mediums and most easies. do u think i have a shot man

[obtuse otter]

oh

[soft hazel]

200ish I think in plat

[obtuse otter]

so there's no point in 2s then

if its all moppers/rsi/usaco plats

nvm 😭

[soft hazel]

but the hidden prereq is basically be from Harvard or have a referral

I had a referral

[still gazelle]

man what the fuck

[obtuse otter]

also cornell

@soft hazel

[soft hazel]

1/2 people were from harvard final round

didn't meet a single cornell person there hmm

or maybe it was the people who were too shy

to say a word

starting convos was pulling teeth there 😦

[obtuse otter]

really? colorstack founder and https://t.co/c239Wz6WBa this dude did it

[soft hazel]

either silent type or "lmao ur not harvard"

oh Rex is from Harvey Mudd

and he did it the year before me

[obtuse otter]

oops

not cornell

lmao

i've just associated colorstack with cornell in my head

[thick ridge]

fuck this guy

[obtuse otter]

how about jehron petty

[obtuse otter]

why LMAO

[soft hazel]

also I didn't interview neraly that many places lol

[still gazelle]

bro gets like 12 offers

[soft hazel]

that's just excessive imo

[thick ridge]

eating up all the offers

[still gazelle]

all top tier companies

[obtuse otter]

yeah

ik he knew he wasnt going to consider that many companies

[soft hazel]

but again I either get to final round or get resume rejected

[obtuse otter]

yk

he picked airbnb?

but they cancelled so he got roblox and snap in april

lol

he had 14 interviews in april

https://www.rexyz.io/posts/mid-corona-internship-hunt

it makes 0 sense

wasnt there a hiring freeze?

some people really are just better

[dapper shard]

wait

[soft hazel]

yeah but being from AirBNB

already means you're pretty good lol

[dapper shard]

what about that guy henry in this server

did he leave

dude had like seven offers by october or something

[obtuse otter]

good LORD

[thick ridge]

wait lmao he just got an internship on a whim

[dapper shard]

the dude was litereally smurfing in this server

like you have the chads

[loud hollow]

wait he got two sig swe as a freshman

cracked af

[dapper shard]

but he was actually smurfing

[hazy agate]

is he some competitive programmer

or can i aspire to be like him lol

[dapper shard]

he was just better than us

not really any other way to put it

[hazy agate]

but like is he just good at leetcode

[still gazelle]

harvey mudd man

yes hes good at leetcode

[hazy agate]

idk what harvey mudd is lol im from caanda

[still gazelle]

goes to a target school

harvey mudd is a stem-based liberal arts school

its really really hard to get in

i think its on the same level as ivy leagues

[soft hazel]

I was surprised it had that much clout

didn't apply when I was in HS

[obtuse otter]

ivy lowkey overrated

[soft hazel]

for everything except quant

[dapper shard]

i miss henry

[obtuse otter]

yep

[soft hazel]

every place that's resume rejected has been because I'm not from MIT/ivy 😄

[obtuse otter]

even then quant only likes harvard and princeton

(imo)

[soft hazel]

true

[obtuse otter]

dude i wanted to go to princeton so bad

[soft hazel]

same

deferred/rejected

[obtuse otter]

i heard terence tao went and i was horny over that school

then i found out about lacs

and didnt even apply

[soft hazel]

lacs?

[obtuse otter]

liberal arts colleges

thought i was going to be premed and in that case school doesnt matter

[soft hazel]

oof

[obtuse otter]

my Ls in life are:

1. finding out about bitcoin in elementary school but being too small brain to do anything with the information
2. not going to a private high school
3. chemistry

the first one actually hurts so much

[still gazelle]

2nd one doesnt mean shit

[thick ridge]

private hs is so expensive

[still gazelle]

do u mean magnet high school

[obtuse otter]

im 0 efc so it would have been free

[still gazelle]

cuz those are poppin

[obtuse otter]

magnet/private high school

[still gazelle]

theres a huge difference

[obtuse otter]

i literally applied to magnet school in ct since 6th grade but CT is lottery so i couldnt get in

like I just took a mean ass L there. no other way to put it

[still gazelle]

man just grind now

[obtuse otter]

exactly

but private high schools are still good asf cause of ECs

[still gazelle]

yup

[obtuse otter]

thats literally only why I wanted to go

[still gazelle]

no one at my school knew what USACO was

[obtuse otter]

my highschool didnt have AMC/usaco/science fair

i was in the trenches FR

[soft hazel]

private HS is eh

[obtuse otter]

we didnt even have debate

DEBATE

[still gazelle]

bros down bad

[obtuse otter]

if i went to private hs it ideally would have been like choate

[soft hazel]

public school is much more down to earth

[obtuse otter]

oh yeah 100%

i wouldnt be the person i was today without public school

[still gazelle]

oh yeah @soft hazel did u do USACO?

[obtuse otter]

but i just like to make up scenarios in my head

no shot he didnt do usaco

[soft hazel]

yes, not amazing tho

[still gazelle]

gold?

[obtuse otter]

were u plat

[dapper shard]

some people i know from texas think they are REALLY good at math because they score well on Numbersense tests from DECA math comps

[soft hazel]

meh plat

[obtuse otter]

"not amazing"

"plat"

[still gazelle]

"not amazing" "plat"

[obtuse otter]

ill kill you

[still gazelle]

LOL

[soft hazel]

o imma head out

[obtuse otter]

wait sorry for roasting u pupper come back

[soft hazel]

warzone "most wanted" on my head be like

[obtuse otter]

how is quant btw

[soft hazel]

interesting to me atm

[loud hollow]

wait pupper what year are you

[obtuse otter]

like can u compare it to like real swe if uve done it

[obtuse otter]

dont u guys have that luke kid

bro is a stud

[soft hazel]

but if I got better work at FAANG I would dip immediately

IDC about the pay as much as getting bored

[soft hazel]

I did Lockheed martin swe, hated it

[obtuse otter]

https://www.uta.edu/science/news/2019/09-18-luke-robitaille-wins-math-olympiad-gold-medal.php

[dapper shard]

Luke? i meant people at my school from texas lol

[still gazelle]

i wanna go into quant finance cuzz it seems more interesting than working at traditional tech company

[obtuse otter]

ive been watching luke robitaille since math counts

[obtuse otter]

oh LMAO

[soft hazel]

appeal of quant for me is fast pace + basically 0 red tape + see results fast with $$$

[obtuse otter]

do u get performance bonuses as intern

[soft hazel]

not last internship

[dapper shard]

nah numbersense tests actually look like a joke tbh

[soft hazel]

this summer I will

[still gazelle]

i thought quant places would have high red tape

[soft hazel]

lmao no

[still gazelle]

cuz ya kno

ur handling billions of dollars

[soft hazel]

b/c red tape means you lose

[obtuse otter]

yeah its all party tricks lmfao

[soft hazel]

ok red tape as in

people have the urge to get stuff evaluated quickly

[still gazelle]

ah so fast testing

[soft hazel]

no one gives a shit how quickly you push code for the new F15

or smthg like that

[obtuse otter]

is it all T5s

[soft hazel]

in corporate world

[obtuse otter]

at quant

[soft hazel]

I am not top 5

[obtuse otter]

or do u see some normal people

[still gazelle]

its immediate results so you learn better

[soft hazel]

I don't think I'm crazy special most of the time lol

[obtuse otter]

if u say ur at like umich or something that wanted sticker going back on ur forehead

[soft hazel]

umich yes

[obtuse otter]

HOW DID I GUESS

[soft hazel]

IK a good friend there in particular

I'm not Umich

[obtuse otter]

oh

[still gazelle]

i think ive saw you on linkedin pupperdoggo

im not gonna doxx u tho

[soft hazel]

probably lol

[still gazelle]

u were a mutual connection

[obtuse otter]

yes no dox

[thick ridge]

bro u go to a better school than umich

[soft hazel]

IDK about better

[obtuse otter]

if its uiuc

[dapper shard]

yep pretty much every person i know that is actually a math whiz says that numbersense is just a bunch of parlor tricks

[soft hazel]

UT Austin