2021_summer

[low epoch]

Tech support u fix problems. This sounds like defining problems. Talk to user/customer and define the problem. That’s actually mad difficult

[abstract wagon]

sounds like tech support tbh

[low epoch]

Idk anything about PM btw. I would assume junior PM’s are given similar “level” of responsibility as a junior swe where they’re not burdened with the full weight of decisions early on

Truly, there is not.

[abstract wagon]

nothing

[low epoch]

But tech support???? Cmon

Not even the same

[abstract wagon]

i just think tech support could be more of a boring role

[low epoch]

Tech support has levels right? Is it basically help desk

[abstract wagon]

na i dont think its just help desk

[odd kraken]

[thorny gorge]

i want sushi

[abstract wagon]

if you have enough certifications you can make a lot doing high level stuff at say airports or something

[low epoch]

That’s just how it be for a lot of tech and IT roles. If u grind enough lc we too can do high level stuff at airports lmao

I’m joking, this is sidetracking. The main point about PM = tech support is super arguable

[abstract wagon]

oh i never said that

i just said user interviewing sounds like tech support

[restive falcon]

PM is cool

But I’m too introverted for that

[low epoch]

Ah, makes sense. I’m down with that

[abstract wagon]

[odd kraken]

isn't user interviewing like UX

doing contextual inquiry, diary studies

[low epoch]

I would imagine the average scope of what a tech support person interviews user is very narrow. Maybe i’m dumb, but isnt it like “how do i fix printer”

Whereas pm customer/user is like “we wanna make an app that does x”

I honestly have no idea

Yeah my friend who’s gunning for pm roles told me even a lotta tech companies struggle to define the role or they have no real onboarding for entry level

We are O(nlogn) and they are O(n)

[limber hazel]

pay is like 10-20% less

for same lvl

progression seems similar looking at levels but dunno for sure

levels has pm salaries

[still gazelle]

some msft pms make 1 mill

[low epoch]

It’s crazy how “communication skills” is so broad. U can say you’re shy/introvert/cant imagine it but even we swe’s need comm skills for sure. PM’s use different kinds

[limber hazel]

oh ic

pm 1 mil is like director level on levels

[still gazelle]

yeah i dont like how vague the term communications skills is

[low epoch]

I’m sure if u set ur mind to it u can develop the skills to be PM. At least to give it a shot

[limber hazel]

and eng track director is also 1mil+

[still gazelle]

technically we all have communication skills

[limber hazel]

yeah for sure

[sinful tinsel]

How?

[still gazelle]

can u talk? if so u have communication skills

[limber hazel]

I think only reason to switch to pm is if you just get sick of coding

for whatever reason

[low epoch]

Uhmm that’s a big q but i guess just think. In swe we communicate among peers and value explaining ourselves very much. Whereas in PM it seems like listening is extremely important. They’re all communication

[still gazelle]

i mean the problem with being a swe is that u gotta learn new shit

[limber hazel]

thats true

u gotta learn new shit in every job though

at least for high paying jobs

[still gazelle]

like constantly

[limber hazel]

not sure why swe gets a bad rap for that

[low epoch]

Uhhhhhh a lot of small town boomer docs arent lol

[limber hazel]

small town boomer doc = rest and vesters

[low epoch]

Yeah for sure there be the legit surgeons going to conferences and reading online on medcareers.dev

[still gazelle]

feel dumb cuz i looked up medcareers.dev ...

[icy juniper]

^same

[limber hazel]

it took me a second

[icy juniper]

[low epoch]

one time i told someone here to ask recruiters a question at recruitingcareers.dev

cmon give joey some credit, he was the first

We are original

[limber hazel]

surgeons have their own hackernews

I assume any specialist does

at the very least

[low epoch]

If u visit the medical subreddits a lot of em are memes

[sinful tinsel]

Yo r hs swe interns important?

[low epoch]

Medical community’s meme game > ours

[still gazelle]

i think uve asked this question before man

[sinful tinsel]

Yeah and no one answered lmao

[still gazelle]

we did

i remember answering

[sinful tinsel]

Nah

[still gazelle]

and to answer ur question being a hs swe intern is very very rare. companies dont expect it from you.

[low epoch]

When u go to college everything u did in hs disappears

U are born again

[sinful tinsel]

Doesn’t it make u more competitive?

[still gazelle]

it does

[keen birch]

it does for freshman internships

[low epoch]

tbh yes u are right for fresh internships

[sinful tinsel]

What abt overall?

[low epoch]

But if u cant get it in hs u can do projects

Or use summer to take some online cs courses and get a good foundation

Like harvard cs50 and odin project

[keen birch]

if having an internship in high school can help you get a decent internship after freshman year of college then it can definitely have a pretty big impact on your career trajectory

but yea it’s pretty rare

[still gazelle]

dont count on getting one

[sinful tinsel]

Will someone be at a disadvantage if they don’t have a hs intern?

[still gazelle]

NO

[keen birch]

no

[still gazelle]

not at all

most people get first internships jr year of college

[low epoch]

I’m sure if u polled people with top internships here, 90% had NO hs experience

[still gazelle]

99%

[low epoch]

95.420%

[sinful tinsel]

Lmao u say that now but it cod make a difference tbh

[low epoch]

Trust me if u do projects or courses rather than internship u are getting WAYYYYY ahead of the game anyway

[still gazelle]

yeah it makes a difference but only to those few people that get it

[low epoch]

Either way u are informed now and ready with plans

[sinful tinsel]

What difference?

[still gazelle]

just grind for a hs internship, if you dont get it thats fine. if u do ur on a good trajectory

basically its easy to get internships when u already had one before

[vivid lintel]

How do people even get internships as a high schooler

[thick ridge]

fam connections prob

[low epoch]

Good home lives

[torn dagger]

yall think 1 internship is enough?

[vivid lintel]

Probably yea ig

[still gazelle]

i know this guy who cant code but got two MSFT internships in HS cuz his uncle is a VP there

[low epoch]

If youre not in hs where are u

[thick ridge]

yup ik someone who had same experience

[still gazelle]

my guys in pre school

[odd kraken]

https://careers.microsoft.com/students/us/en/ushighschoolprogram

[sinful tinsel]

@low epoch what why does that matter???

[low epoch]

It doesnt but i seriously had the impression u were asking as someone who could take advantage of all this feedback LOL

It’s fine to ask, sry for wording it that way

[thick ridge]

also idk if its just me

but i very strongly dislike the ppl who sweat on linkedin in high school

[still gazelle]

Same

Dudes have no life

[abstract wagon]

i dont care so much

[silk ridge]

you dont like when people flex their sat score on linkedin ????

[low epoch]

nah i feel u but disliking might be going too far

they're so young, someone put that idea into their head

[thick ridge]

this is v v annoying to look at imo ^

[low epoch]

realtalk i want to ask u all a question

did none of u go to hs with actual geniuses

because i did and tbh they are not all annoying

[thick ridge]

i mean if you're legit I have no problem

[still gazelle]

kid looks 11 but has a better linkedin than me

[thick ridge]

but the fake flexers

resume-padders

[low epoch]

ok yes, this is true

i'm saying to weight your impressions of them considering their age

they're kiddos

but if we're observing things objectively, ok yeah it's dumb af

[abstract wagon]

the kid you linked is driving me insane lmfao

idk how legit his credentials are

seems like fluff

[still gazelle]

SELF STUDY

[abstract wagon]

i want to punch a kid rn frfr

[thick ridge]

lmao yeah it's rlly over the top

[umbral heart]

Just put that you drink boba, and companies want to interview

[low epoch]

i had boba yesterday, passion fruit

[abstract wagon]

what sort of name is samuel jasper david bro

three first names

[thick ridge]

lmao facts

[umbral heart]

Smd

[thick ridge]

paul george type beat

[barren night]

He’s done more advanced classes than me and i’m in my second year of university lmao

[still gazelle]

How is this an experience

[thick ridge]

Interested in Frugal Innovation, Applied Topological, and Real-Time Numerical Analysis. Integrated Learning: Cybersecurity, Nanotechnology Research, and Programming

like no ur not

[still gazelle]

like no employer cares

[warped wind]

wait I know this guy

[umbral heart]

"Tools"

[warped wind]

he graduated from my college right before I started

[thick ridge]

exactly

[abstract wagon]

i think the kid just has parents that push him a lot and hype him up for some overrated talent

[vivid lintel]

[abstract wagon]

asian parents thing

[still gazelle]

bro needs to choose

[vivid lintel]

the thing is they prob don't give an actual shit about any one of those things

[abstract wagon]

na fuck that kid

[still gazelle]

hes a year younger than me

he can handle it

[abstract wagon]

@still gazelle u 12?

[vivid lintel]

just a kid???

[still gazelle]

im not doxxing myself

hes a rising senior

right

[abstract wagon]

oh shit

he looked like he was 10 dude

[still gazelle]

yeah hes not like 10

[abstract wagon]

????

[still gazelle]

Ikr

[thick ridge]

he could be accellerated

no way the kid in that picture is 17/18

[still gazelle]

bro looks 12

[warped wind]

this semester I am yea

[abstract wagon]

guys stop hating on him

he is a math genius kid

ok?

[still gazelle]

OH SHIT

bros actually 12

shit i feel bad

[abstract wagon]

i dont

[thick ridge]

i don't at all

[tribal ridge]

Welcome to the world of people to look at to feel bad about how average you are

[silk ridge]

his age is a bigger flex than anything on his linkedin

[still gazelle]

yes lmao

hes a beast man

[thick ridge]

wait rlly lol

[abstract wagon]

u should tell him to fix his linkedin

[thick ridge]

HAHA

[still gazelle]

yeah cuz imma make fun of a kid my age, not someone 6 years younger than me

[thick ridge]

im from mass too and hella ppl ik are connected to him

[still gazelle]

i thought he was my age

when i realized he wasnt i stopped

It literally says rising senior on his linkedin

[abstract wagon]

i hate kids

[restive falcon]

yo lets try to not clown on minors here

ty

[dapper shard]

wtf

lmao dude's actually op

damn

[spare lichen]

original powered
over poster

[edgy dagger]

"While You Were Partying, I Studied the Blade Leetcode." But for real, that dude is mega smart.

[thorn leaf]

that guy's 12 years old? holy shit

[earnest musk]

andre i know u cant do reactions in internsalraysharing

but can u please add a chimp emoji to the mailchimp one

we need to react

cool chimp

[dapper shard]

wait you're right he actually did upgrade after every company lmao

[narrow patrol]

who

[earnest musk]

okay andre what is ur fave travis song

[thick ridge]

when did that man do school

its internship after internship

[narrow patrol]

who r yall talking about lol

[mortal edge]

Does anyone know if J.P. Morgan is still hiring?

[dapper shard]

i doubt they are but it doesn't hurt to apply

[restive falcon]

they were clowning on this kid who had a linkedin

deleted the msgs cuz its just a kid

[narrow patrol]

ah i see

yesss

[thorn leaf]

thats a banger

[earnest musk]

good taste

[restive falcon]

champion good song

butterfly my fav tho

[thorn leaf]

best travis song is Drugs You Shoud Try

dont @ me

[narrow patrol]

champion is awesome

[mortal edge]

Ok thanks, I’ve applied already and gone thru all of it. Still haven’t gotten interview and it’s been 2 weeks since they sent me an email for confirmation

[narrow patrol]

not my fav tho either

[earnest musk]

any mike dean influence on a travis song i will adore

[still gazelle]

i cant listen to nav man. He just makes ass music

[thick ridge]

maria i'm drunk is up there

[restive falcon]

or stargazing

[thorn leaf]

yea nav's shit

[dapper shard]

im assuming you already did the pymetrics, OA, and the little confirmation they sent afterwards?

[thick ridge]

astroworld slept on lowkey

[narrow patrol]

my fav is prob who? what! or goosebumps

[earnest musk]

my gf loves wake up

[narrow patrol]

smh

[still gazelle]

90210 is forever goated

[thorn leaf]

its true tho

[thick ridge]

not tolerating astroworld slander

[mortal edge]

Yep, the confirmation I did the 28 of December

[earnest musk]

based

[thorn leaf]

nav's ass

[restive falcon]

me neither

[thick ridge]

0 skips on that album

[restive falcon]

no one asked rad..

[dapper shard]

Mmm yeah, that is all automated 😬

[narrow patrol]

⬇️

[dapper shard]

astroworld was pretty ass tbh

[mortal edge]

Damn

[thick ridge]

i could skip ur opinion

[thorn leaf]

^

[restive falcon]

fax

[mortal edge]

Guess giving up on that part

[still gazelle]

rodeo > astro > huncho > birds in the trap > jack boys

[thorn leaf]

birds n the trap = Rodeo >>> rest

[thick ridge]

jack boys too low

[dapper shard]

jpmc filled up kind of early after the code for good hackathons back in october @mortal edge

[still gazelle]

astros fire man

[dapper shard]

cap

[thorn leaf]

it really isnt

[dapper shard]

its not

[still gazelle]

Bro explores 6 different subgenres

[thick ridge]

rad go listen to skeletons

[still gazelle]

all bangers

[thick ridge]

and come back

and tell me its trash

[mortal edge]

Ok that’s what I thought, I applied too late to all these places

[still gazelle]

yosemite bro

[thorn leaf]

yosemite is just Sold OUt Dates with Nav's trash verse

[still gazelle]

Pick up the phone top 5 travis song

[thick ridge]

rad whats ur #1 travis album then

[thorn leaf]

ONE OF MY FAVS

[dapper shard]

i skipped pretty much the whole album. thing was as good as Chance the Rapper's The Big Day

[still gazelle]

yessur bro i always be bumpin that shit at parties and on aux

[thorn leaf]

that entire album was a bop

the damn interllude was fire

who makes fire interludes

[still gazelle]

the big day was a 1/10

[thorn leaf]

0/10

[dapper shard]

most artists tbh. interludes kind of be hitting

[still gazelle]

im being generous

[thorn leaf]

huge drop after stuff like Acid Rap

or Chance 3

[still gazelle]

Hot shower is probably the worst song ive ever heard

[dapper shard]

chance the rapper should've quit being an artist after that album lmao

[thorn leaf]

LOL

[low epoch]

This is so good

[restive falcon]

do ppl still think WLR is trash

[thick ridge]

wlr grew on me a tiny bit

it's still not great

but i be bumping some songs

[still gazelle]

WLR ass

[thorn leaf]

i liked the song with cudi

[dapper shard]

pretty ass too

[thorn leaf]

but just cuz of cudi

[barren night]

I like WLR

[still gazelle]

cudi new album wasnt even all that

[thick ridge]

days before is second I think

then astro

[low epoch]

Unfortunately u right

[thorn leaf]

no way

birds> astro. but yes rodeo id say is his best

[thick ridge]

i stopped listening to new music tbh

[still gazelle]

Bro drops KSG then makes some mid music 😭

[thick ridge]

just old kanye at this point

[thorn leaf]

fax

TLOP on top

[thick ridge]

graduation is up there 4 me

[drowsy goblet]

Lol just listen to drill rap

Good shit

[thorn leaf]

same

[thick ridge]

FACTS

[thorn leaf]

ive been listening to rnb for the past 1.5 years

on loop

[drowsy goblet]

Chief keef is the shit

[thorn leaf]

bryson tiller, tory lanez, and the weeknd on loop for me

[dapper shard]

been bumping yung pinch a lot lately no cap

[thick ridge]

Aries is rlly underrated artist

[low epoch]

J cole

[thick ridge]

his album has no skips

[thorn leaf]

nah new j cole is pretty ass

[dapper shard]

K.Dot too

[thorn leaf]

2014 j cole and before slapped

[low epoch]

I dont mean new j cole

[thorn leaf]

2014 forest hills drive is his last good release

loved that album

[thick ridge]

4yeo was good

[low epoch]

His entire 2011 album, j cole i mean, is no skips

[thick ridge]

KOD was alright

[thorn leaf]

KOD bumped for a solid month

[still gazelle]

most albums in 2020 were kinda ass

artists were quaratined but still couldnt make good music

[thorn leaf]

and then shit got cringe

[thick ridge]

polog's album was aoty for me

[thorn leaf]

"she my number 1 i dont want nothin on the side"

cringe

[thorn leaf]

facts

friday night lights one of my fav

[still gazelle]

daniel caesar fireee

[dapper shard]

wait that song was kind of a bop though. at least the message was really good

[thick ridge]

i liked motm3 but i feel like i can't compare to motm1 so it dont hit the same

[low epoch]

Hey so i went to my spotify lol and yeah i saved half the songs so i guess on avg it was good but its peaks were not on par

Did not do cudi justice

[still gazelle]

trap rap got old in the first year

[low epoch]

But cudi has a unique sound

[thorn leaf]

man idk. i just want old cole, the cole who rapped about stuff like the girl in his math class. not new "woke" cole whos always rapping about stuff like how hes the greatest and how mumble's trash

[dapper shard]

bruh someone on twitter said the rioters in DC listened to youngboy before they went up there lmaooo

[thorn leaf]

also the damn autotune

YE i hate nav

[still gazelle]

daniel caesar is for 😉

[thorn leaf]

all of navs good shit is his features

[thick ridge]

false his old stuff was good

perfect timing is actually a good album

[dapper shard]

i get that. i never really cared for j cole much to begin with tbh. people that say j cole is on the same level or better than kendrick i don't really get. kendrick just on another level

[still gazelle]

man i cant believe nav used to say the n word

[thorn leaf]

facts. kdot is something else

[restive falcon]

huh

[still gazelle]

Bro needs to stay in his lane

[thorn leaf]

he clearly demonstrated that on Black Friday

[low epoch]

j cole and kendrick are apples and oranges

[dapper shard]

slowed and reverb lil skies fucking hits

[thorn leaf]

RIGHT?

[thick ridge]

go listen to myself and then talk to me

[thorn leaf]

dude nav rlly released a song namd NAV on an album named NAV

[dapper shard]

bro Kendrick The Heart Part 4

[thorn leaf]

and his artist name is NAV

[still gazelle]

myself is mid man. nav just doesnt have any emotion into his rap man. theres no heart to it.

[thorn leaf]

like holy shit cringe

[dapper shard]

can't believe he took that off the music platforms 😦

[thorn leaf]

wait its not on spotify? whatt

i swear it was

[still gazelle]

bro im brown and it seems like every brown dude says the n word

[dapper shard]

this really is the truth man. i can't even get mad anymore i hear it so much

[still gazelle]

its embarrassing

[thick ridge]

yeah it was rlly bad a few years ago

[thorn leaf]

it is

spotify

[thick ridge]

i think recently its improved among everyone

[low epoch]

I’m mexican and u only say that if u a gangbanger with other gangbangers. That’s wack

[dapper shard]

bruh link that wtf. i can't find it

[tacit halo]

@dapper shard JP Morgan extended the application deadline from dec 31 to feb 15

Some locations are filled up but others aren’t

Still hiring

[thorn leaf]

https://open.spotify.com/track/1zayuwd1YLZsYDArkruHdL?si=Um4xVZG_RoqLoabqq8DjkQ

[dapper shard]

i just know houston is full

i think columbus is full too

Plano might not be

and i think NY is full

[low epoch]

U in canada?

US is no go

[still gazelle]

man cant believe seahawks lost to the rams. Wtf happened to wilson recently

[dapper shard]

ah no wonder. it don't play in the US

[dapper shard]

choke artist as usual

[low epoch]

Also yall should listen to reggaeton/latin trap

[tacit halo]

They have 9 locations

[dapper shard]

taking that chokeium

[tacit halo]

Only 3/9 are filled up I think

[thorn leaf]

ohhhhhh

yeah

damn didnt know it didnt work in the US

[keen birch]

yooo bad bunny is 🔥🔥

[tacit halo]

Also I read the entire conversation from above and it’s just in bad taste

[low epoch]

If u listen to bad bunny ur good

[tacit halo]

Why we’re u joking about some kid being 12

[mortal edge]

Alex, do u know which locations

[tacit halo]

There’s absolutely no way that kid is 12

[still gazelle]

hes 12

[pale coyote]

wtf this is actually good

[tacit halo]

No, but I’m just relaying info aggregated from reading this server

[low epoch]

I also recommend osuna

[still gazelle]

He completed a 8 yr program in 2.5 years

[pale coyote]

i hate nav bc he gives brown boys a bad rep

[tacit halo]

But he’s a high school senior

[mortal edge]

Ahh ok thanks man

[tacit halo]

No one is 5 years ahead

That doesn’t happen

[low epoch]

Bruh u dont even know the half of it. Every latino person ever pretty much does

[mortal edge]

Umm

[tacit halo]

And it’s not even a good idea

[mortal edge]

Have u heard of Daniel liu

Kids a genius

[tacit halo]

Science fair?

[still gazelle]

hes 5.5 years ahead

[pale coyote]

he goes to my fucking school lol

[tacit halo]

I was next to him at science fair

Daniel Liu

[mortal edge]

Sameeee

I had a class with him

[tacit halo]

No one is socially ready for high school let alone college at 12

It’s an awful idea

[pale coyote]

daniel liu came up to me when i was working it help desk

[mortal edge]

I think Daniel is at least 15

And he’s college

[pale coyote]

it was an honor

[tacit halo]

A 12 year old being surrounded by ppl 10 years older

[dapper shard]

i don't think they care if you're socially ready though tbh. it would be up to the parents

[tacit halo]

A 12 year old living in a dorm surrounded by ppl 10 years older?

[mortal edge]

Do u know how old he is now

[simple jay]

guys im hearing voices in my head

[tacit halo]

It’s so out of place

[low epoch]

We should stop talkin bout this kid

[tacit halo]

@mortal edge u from San Diego?

[mortal edge]

Is it eren

[pale coyote]

idk

[dapper shard]

i doubt they would let a 12 year old dorm with people 10 years older. would probably stay with the parents still

[low epoch]

Idk, mods said no

[mortal edge]

Nah I’m from Michigan

[tacit halo]

Is Daniel Liu from Michigan?

[restive falcon]

its not relevant

[mortal edge]

Yea

[restive falcon]

kid isnt even cs major

[simple jay]

it could be idk

[tacit halo]

If so then I don’t him

[pale coyote]

i think he's a double major with cs actually

[restive falcon]

well

hes 12.

[pale coyote]

bc he asked about cs class stuff

[mortal edge]

Ok online says Daniel started college at 14

[simple jay]

can someone help me

[tacit halo]

Would someone that young live in a dorm?

[mortal edge]

Idk I think he started last year

[tacit halo]

So much changes between 12 and 18

[simple jay]

damn cold world

[restive falcon]

what

[low epoch]

Except height for some ppl

[tacit halo]

With remote learning, if ur just going to class and doing nothing else, taking college classes is fine

[simple jay]

im hearing voices in my head

[tacit halo]

But being in a college environment really isn’t

[low epoch]

Are u for real?

[simple jay]

yes

[keen birch]

yo you should actually see a doctor about this no cap

[restive falcon]

faker.

[tacit halo]

I believed in fairies when I was 12

[dapper shard]

ong honestly lmao

[tacit halo]

My mindset has changed a lot

[low epoch]

Dont troll bout voices lol

[tacit halo]

Some things are definitely the same

But so much has changed

12 year old me couldn’t go anywhere without my parents

[simple jay]

its telling me i have to slay all the titans

[mortal edge]

Yup eren

[keen birch]

oh lmfao

[mortal edge]

U trollin

[tacit halo]

The idea of spending a night away terrified me at the time

How would a 12 year old survive in a college environment?

[keen birch]

don’t spoil pls i haven’t started s4

[tacit halo]

More or less use such advanced vocabulary

[restive falcon]

faker hasn't even finished s1

ignore

[simple jay]

i did

[restive falcon]

wow u skipped ahead to watch?

🐍

[mortal edge]

Have fun

[simple jay]

i watched w ricc and mo

[restive falcon]

.

[tacit halo]

I don’t care if ur some type of prodigy. A 12 year old isn’t ready for college no matter what

[low epoch]

[tacit halo]

Maybe taking classes

But not the actual college experience

[mortal edge]

Yea i would assume he’s living at home

[pale coyote]

yea I think even if youre capable starting college early would harm the experience

[tacit halo]

Can u do college remotely in normal times?

Why would someone even start college at 12?

[keen birch]

tbh that’s just bad parenting

[mortal edge]

I don’t think so

[keen birch]

let the kid have a childhood

[tacit halo]

What’s the rush

It’s horrible parenting

[mortal edge]

14 year old kid was def at the university

[tacit halo]

Kid will be destroyed for life

[tacit halo]

Living away and making their own decisions?

Ur academic ability has no correlation with ability to live that lifestyle no matter what

[simple jay]

calm down kanye

[mortal edge]

Don’t know the personal shit, just know what I see from online

[keen birch]

bro i bet they be bragging to all their friends

[mortal edge]

Like if u just search Daniel Liu Michigan

[tacit halo]

If a 12 year old has such a profile, it’s 100% do to his parents actions

[mortal edge]

U will find him

[tacit halo]

He probably had no say whatsoever

[pale coyote]

how do you even make friends

[mortal edge]

I could see Asian parents cuz my parents would probs throw me early

[dapper shard]

okay no cap though

[tacit halo]

Really, there’s no point in starting too early

[low epoch]

Lol eric demaine who is also a prodigy and teaches the famous youtube MIT algo course got his pdh mad young

[dapper shard]

my parents told me if i get a remote full time job i should stay and arkansas and not leave until im 26

[low epoch]

And he’s making waves in the field and our careers

[tacit halo]

U can start doing stuff in ur 20s and be ridiculously successful

[dapper shard]

none

[tacit halo]

What type of parents would do this?

There’s nothing to brag about

[mortal edge]

Lmaooo u don’t know asian parents

They brag that shit any day

[pale coyote]

fr

[dapper shard]

tell them they're ugly 🙂

[tacit halo]

Absolutely nothing

[low epoch]

We can argue back and forth about the social harm. But it’s been done and they prob go on to do great things. That kind of person may end up being awkward forever anyways so i dont worry bout it

[tacit halo]

I’m half asian

Well half indian

Half European Jewish

My parents let me have a child hood

[north kestrel]

3 halves

[low epoch]

Imagine if we held back all great child prodigies in history. Forget so much classical music

[tacit halo]

Sure they always made me do extra academic work

[low epoch]

Besides if u are so big brain u literally THIRST to be in that environment

Let em live

[tacit halo]

And i hardly agree with my parents about anything

[mortal edge]

Just so much different parenting styles

[tacit halo]

Even the most op ppl here aren’t 12

[mortal edge]

Probs would be

[tacit halo]

If Mozart started in his 20s he would of and still would have been just as successful

[keen birch]

even starting high school at 12 is fucked

[low epoch]

They prob dont live on campus alone

[abstract wagon]

bring the 12 y/o to the party

we lit

[tacit halo]

Look. The average unicorn founder is 40

There’s really no need to start that early

[mortal edge]

Honestly tho, I’ve seen 12 year olds doing dumb shit

[low epoch]

All u 5’4 shorties feelin right at home with the youngins

[tacit halo]

U may excel academically, but u don’t have the mindset to be a great leader and excel personally

[abstract wagon]

im 6'

[tacit halo]

I’m 5’8 or something

[mortal edge]

Ok how did we get on this topic

[pale coyote]

imma have to ask you to stop sir

[mortal edge]

I just jumped in with not much context lol

[tacit halo]

Maybe 5’9

[dapper shard]

im only 5'7

[tacit halo]

Was Elon musk going to college at 12?

No

[abstract wagon]

did he even go to college

[pale coyote]

yes

[tacit halo]

Queens university in Canada

[abstract wagon]

wiki says he didnt get the degree

[low epoch]

however elon was raised, i'd prefer to do the opposite with my kiddo

[tacit halo]

By the time u hit maybe ur late teens u may be ready to jump into the real world

[abstract wagon]

oh did he transfer to upenn

[tacit halo]

I like Elon

[low epoch]

that's fine, i don't lol

[abstract wagon]

same

[tacit halo]

What’s wrong with him

[low epoch]

i respect his prowess but not his character

[tacit halo]

His attitude is the reason Tesla is so successful

His attitude played a huge role

He’s fun

[low epoch]

i also do not respect the proven reputation of wlb/working conditions @ tesla/spacex

[tacit halo]

And not too serious

He even does edm

Which gives me a ton more respect for him

[abstract wagon]

theres no point

[low epoch]

it's a good discussion so i'll pick it up another time

he hates trans fyi

his ex wife has written nasty stuff about his character as well

[abstract wagon]

much better to make some friends during your teen years

instead of going to college

[low epoch]

but that's minor in the grand scheme of things, we'll be in mars because of him right

[tacit halo]

Where will these so called prodigy kids be in their adult lives?

Maybe have some desk job that pays well

Which isn’t bad

[abstract wagon]

thats u

[tacit halo]

But they won’t be starting revolutions

Mark Cuban went to a state school and had an average life in his teens and early 20s

And countless others did

[dapper shard]

gonna be me 🙂

[tacit halo]

Same

[dapper shard]

i don't do that

[restive falcon]

r u really 6' or 5'11

[tacit halo]

Yes I’d love the help!

[abstract wagon]

@restive falcon im 6' please

[tacit halo]

I don’t want to be a Virgin

[dapper shard]

i don't need help. i turn them down

[restive falcon]

please take this conversation to DMs

[dapper shard]

[tacit halo]

I just want help

Any type of help

[dapper shard]

wait @restive falcon . hi

[restive falcon]

hi

[abstract wagon]

@restive falcon hi

[restive falcon]

hi

[tacit halo]

I just want my first big break

I have lots of friends

[dapper shard]

i never fail

[tacit halo]

From all different backgrounds

[low epoch]

you cant fail if u drop the class

[dapper shard]

ong it is lmao

[tacit halo]

I don’t care at all about ur professional life, ur social status

Good character is what matters in a relationship

[obtuse otter]

if that hedge fund works out i can make sure u lose it 😏

[dapper shard]

there are new pogchamp emotes

[tacit halo]

I’m gonna close my hedge fund soon

I have a team of 61

And we’re gonna start a gen z revolution

[abstract wagon]

@obtuse otter this is it

[tacit halo]

@obtuse otter can I appoint u to a position in my presidential cabinet 50 years from now?

[obtuse otter]

yes

[tacit halo]

It’s gonna happen

[obtuse otter]

can i be secretary of labor

[tacit halo]

Definitely

@abstract wagon chief of staff

[small fossil]

You can only use this command in #2021_grad_process or #2021_intern_process

[unreal anchor]

Reading this chat

[dapper shard]

Imagine wanting to be president

[tacit halo]

Sure I will

[still gazelle]

this server is so wild

[tacit halo]

Which is expected

[loud hollow]

peeop did you have your mongo interview yet

[tacit halo]

Are they still hiring?

They posted a data science position recently

[abstract wagon]

?

wtf is happening

[dapper shard]

Actually got rejected after phone screen. Didn’t know mongoDB cared so much about culture. Apparently a bunch of people get rejected after the phone screen

[tacit halo]

Want something good to happen to me, with either my startup, hedge fund, or internship recruiting process

Preferably all

What big companies are still actively hiring?

[fleet cairn]

same happened t o me and like 3 other ppl i know

[dapper shard]

They care A LOT about culture there

[fleet cairn]

damn

thats wack

[dapper shard]

Although I said I was interested in full stack dev a lot and they don’t really do that

So that most likely hurt me a lot too

Lyft is ugly

[river sable]

c. You can share paid internships in range of 14-16.75/hr. – is this acceptable to you? If offered full time this will not be the compensation.

what does share paid mean

[tulip jay]

@sonic badger can i ask how long ur amazon interview was?

ik they said 45, but was yours 45 as well?

[tacit halo]

WhT company is this?

[river sable]

just an electronics company in TX

mouser electronics

[simple saffron]

sounds like maybe you’ll be splitting work with other interns for that pay?

[still gazelle]

that sounds so illegal

[thick ridge]

that sounds like an instant nope from me

[still gazelle]

"jimmy fixed 6 bugs while u fixed 3. u get $5/hr while he gets $10/hr"

[thick ridge]

what if there are like 15 interns

so it just means $1/hour

[still gazelle]

bro im just gonna have some kid in india do it for me then

pocket half

[thick ridge]

lmao delegate

[still gazelle]

give him the rest

[thick ridge]

thats still like 4 dollars a day

not even worth

[still gazelle]

bro $4 a day in india isnt bad for an intern

some internships there make u PAY them

[still gazelle]

WHAT

[dim sentinel]

NANI?

[simple saffron]

damn asks for ML knowledge too lmfao

[abstract wagon]

im in

[simple saffron]

bread is bread

[dim sentinel]

facts

[simple saffron]

even if ur giving it away

[inland bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/bunnies-what-confused-meh-rabbit-gif-16132206

[mild kelp]

ahaha pretty sure its meme, lol

unless its true, then i missed out on applying for it 😳

[patent sluice]

idea: lets all apply and get hired and not show up on the first day

[mild kelp]

genius

[abstract wagon]

anyone here take amazon final interview this past week?

got questions for anyone willing 2 answer

:D

[patent sluice]

What kinda sysdesign questions do you get asked

Like just OOP stuff or also the whole thing with caching and sharding and shit

Cause uh the former seem more realistic for interns to know

[tacit halo]

Is the reverse financed internship even real?

[frosty ginkgo]

yea https: //twitter.com/tjmcnab/status/1214653879960383492

[tacit halo]

Was it created as a meme?

Was it ever a real job posting at some point?

[frosty ginkgo]

no its act a real job posting

[abstract wagon]

Reverse financed internship is just college and tuition

[mild kelp]

that's what i'm not sure about

[tacit halo]

Given the size of the Internet and all the shit I’ve seen, wouldn’t surprise me in the least if it’s real

[mild kelp]

Haha ya

[tacit halo]

Just some food for thought

[hallow prism]

Is Roblox filled for pm internships 2021 summer?

[pliant hawk]

I jus got an OA yesterday so I assume not?

[tacit halo]

Any big companies that are 100% filled

[odd kraken]

i dont think so, i havent seen any PM interns for 2021 yet

data science and SWE are probably almost full if not full tho

[muted leaf]

https://gusto.com/about/careers#job-listings
is gusto's internship closed or do you just apply to full-time hoping they will redirect you to internship one?????

[dapper shard]

i think a lot of the banks are

[tacit halo]

Have u heard from recruiters?

I know capital one and bofa are

[dapper shard]

most of jp morgan is

[tacit halo]

Didn’t u say it was like 3 locations?

There’s like 9 locations

[dapper shard]

i know it is very unlikely to get a final interview from jp morgan at this point. my roommate actually emailed recruiter recently

[tacit halo]

What did they say?

@dapper shard

[dapper shard]

and she said that she could check on his application status but he might as well accept his current offer because most of the locations have reached head count already. They might have a few more openings left if people renege and if offices say they are willing to take a few more. But that he shouldn't bet on getting a final round interview at this point.

[tacit halo]

@dapper shard what about Goldman Sachs and Amex?

Those are banks as well

[dapper shard]

goldman i would expect to be full. they were one of the very first apps open. like back in august or maybe even late july

don't know about amex

morgan stanley is probably full as well. they were another one that was open pretty early

citi i don't think is but is probably getting full quickly

i got that interview invitiation a while back. forgot what month though

[tacit halo]

Goldman seems to still let u apply for Dallas and Salt Lake City

It seems that New York is closed

But the other two are open

Like banks tend to recruit 9 months a year

They said they’ll close applications when they’re full but they’re still open

[dapper shard]

eh

doesn't hurt to apply

[tacit halo]

On the flip side, do u know big companies that are actively recruiting?

[dapper shard]

A lot of people on LinkedIn have said they have accepted offers from AFL/PROPEL. Might DM some of them and see what they had to do

[dapper shard]

Eh a couple of the FAANGs still are. Like Facebook and msft. And google maybe. Amazon clearly. And then some big Ns like Spotify and probably several smaller ones that are lower in the F500

Hard to say

Some of the big companies have already finished because of reduced head count and cause they started a lot earlier

[tacit halo]

I’m looking through the repo

Let me list big ones that are still open

Some even came out recently

PayPal

Palantir

Imc

Drw

Lots more trading firms

Apple

Citrix

Qualtrics

[dapper shard]

Qualtrics is still hiring?

Damn

[tacit halo]

Ibm

Dropbox

[dapper shard]

Qualtrics interview process is just way too long for an intern position

[tacit halo]

Citi and MasterCard apparently

Twitch

Figma

Applied intuition (unicorn I think)

There are a lot of lesser known unicorns too

Not stripe but they’re there

Like ripple

Tesla

Tesla is honestly always hiring

[muted leaf]

Damn am I just that bad at searching

Oh shoot wrong reply btw. Sorry

[dapper shard]

I’ve seen like seven people on LinkedIn say they accepted offers to amazon via AFL just from scrolling. Idk maybe it’s just cause of who I am connected to

[odd kraken]

i think Spotify doesn't count anymore

because they aren't taking new applications

[dapper shard]

No. Intern

[tacit halo]

Yeah there’s literally like a billion LinkedIn posts in my feed every day

[odd kraken]

if you didn't apply in november it's too late to get into the pipeline

[muted leaf]

I see ig it's just cuz of connections. Ty

[dapper shard]

Working for Spotify would be cool

[tacit halo]

Spotify ghosts everyone it seems

Literally u need to clearly be passionate about the product

[dapper shard]

I had like 300k minutes played last year according to my 2020 wrapped

How much more passionate do I need to be

[tacit halo]

Live and breathe Spotify

Have a Spotify themed resume

Have Spotify themed extracurricular

Spotify themed side projects

Not kidding

@dapper shard did they ghost u?

[dapper shard]

Never applied I don’t believe

[tacit halo]

It seems like honestly no one heard back from them

[dapper shard]

I stopped applying to places back in October so I most likely never did it

[tacit halo]

I’m applying everyday

At this point well over 2000 applications

If u include cold emails

Tho

[dapper shard]

Damn.

That’s a lot of apps

I stopped at 211

[tacit halo]

Actual applications, more like 400

A lot of these places, u honestly need to cold email ur way in

There’s a lot of hidden gems out there

U just have to find them

Cold emailing is so underrated and highly effective

What was ur message to them?

I refined my template a lot and searched for the right recruiters using various tools

I’ll share it with u

Just dm me so I don’t forget

Well. I’m gonna hit the z’s now. Will post more of my stats later and get those blog posts up

[loud hollow]

i think visa is still def hiring

[odd kraken]

ye, I think cover letters and portfollos really matter a lot for Spotify

recruiter mentioned it mulitple times

they want you to know things from their engineering blog and their company values
and to have projects that use Spotify's APIs
top tier would be to contribute to their open source projects

[abstract wagon]

@odd kraken thats so crazy

[odd kraken]

ye 🥴 not required or anything but all things that their recruiter mentioned would make an ideal applicant and how you would stand out

[muted leaf]

damn that's so much

well ig that's why they ghosted me

[still trellis]

it sounds like you get matched to one subsection and rotate through the sections in that subsection

so if you are in tech you rotate 5g open source software networks automation cloud you wont be just cloud intern

theres no way they put a random marketing intern in cloud as a rotation lol

[muted leaf]

Do you think it's worth it?

[sinful oar]

seems worth it to me. i'd prefer rotational programs over internships that are tailored to one particular role/section of tech. could help you find out what you like and don't like to work on!

Vimeo is still actively recruiting. https://boards.greenhouse.io/vimeo

[muted leaf]

Sounds great now that I realized I can work on multiple things. Thanks for input!!

[still gazelle]

are you getting interviews?

[small fossil]

You can only use this command in #2021_grad_process or #2021_intern_process

[runic tinsel]

does flexport hire international students for internships?

[loud rover]

lol

[loud rover]

also if you have never interacted with daniel before dont pass judgment on his actions

[uncut wren]

@runic tinsel they've hired canadians for interns though it was waterloo so idk how common that is

[abstract wagon]

im scared interviews will be harder next time since ill be junior and ill need to be better at dp and graphs and since there is no course at my college that covers that ill need to study outside class a lot

[humble saddle]

you don’t have an algorithms course?

[abstract wagon]

i do but i cant take it until junior spring after most interviews are done
and it only covers NP!=P and theoretical stuff no dp or graphs

[obtuse otter]

our schools are out to get us bruh my algo course only runs in the spring too and getting cs courses as a sophomore is hell

there's 5 spots per course (like 3?) for the like 30 sophomore cs majors

a few of my sophomore friends just didn't get into any cs courses cause of it

[abstract wagon]

my issue is i dont have the preqs
theres space though
i have to take discrete then computability and logic before algs

[cyan valley]

did this guy just say

hes applied to 2000 places?

and got 0 opportunities?

[odd pumice]

Did anyone do an interview with EY here for internship

[cyan valley]

@tacit halo

[obtuse otter]

bro i didnt want to say anything

[cyan valley]

thats straight cap

[lethal ore]

Lol

[obtuse otter]

oh ic. for me, I have the prereqs, it's just I am not confident at all I'll get in. I actually just checked and it's 0 reserved spots for sophomores

it's legit insanely stupid lol

[cyan valley]

if ur a sohmore

don't go for tech companies

cuz 90% of them

say

"GRAD DATE 2022"

[obtuse otter]

just move it up on ur resume

ez iq

[cyan valley]

So either u can lie about ur grad date

and be like afterwards

"oh im double majoring now"

💀

[obtuse otter]

yep

LMAO

[lethal ore]

Lol

Should have done that

[obtuse otter]

im doing that next year

[round cloud]

lol also if your uni/college offers a 3Y degree you could opt to put your grade date a year earlier for those postings that are only Juniors+

and then say you opted to do the 4Y degree after instead

[obtuse otter]

yes

[lethal ore]

Also if you can graduate early due to ap credits

[obtuse otter]

honestly dont think companies would care too much

dont think u need an elaborate scheme but i am def doing it

[round cloud]

yeah def do it

i can def say being a junior/claiming to be one gets you a lot more looks/auto clears to at least OAs because they tend to want to convert interns to FTE the subsequent year

[obtuse otter]

oh yeah i mean about the reason why you're grad date moved

needa do it to get some 🍞 next year

[round cloud]

o tru mb

[cyan valley]

Grad early due to AP is diff

@lethal ore

Cuz thats like LEGIT

Im just talking about bsing

[obtuse otter]

i mean its not really bsing cause you could graduate in 3 years if u overloaded and took summer courses

but they don't have to know that you won't be doing it

[cyan valley]

l o l o l

are intern return offers > than normal new grad offers at the same place?

[still gazelle]

lets say i can graudate in 3 years but i decide to do co ops or dual major n delay grad. would that be fine?

[humble pendant]

that's pretty normal - i know plenty of people who do that

[still gazelle]

alright >:D

[lucid rampart]

I feel it's really hard to land a data science internship

[humble pendant]

oh for sure - less companies offer them. Also they highly prefer students with masters or phds

[lucid rampart]

True

Even master degree isn't competitive

[abstract wagon]

Heyo so I finished oa3 in 1 hour instead of 2 hours

it was 21 questions

was I supposed to get anything else?

i had like 20 questions about just what i would do in a situation

and 1 debugging question + are these test cases right

i thought there were more to it

🍞

[humble pendant]

I find this depends on the school. Currently doing a masters at a top 20 and I got a lot more call backs than I did in undergrad, same with my peers

[lucid rampart]

Sad truth

[dapper shard]

There isn’t more to it. That’s it

[abstract wagon]

@dapper shard did u complete it fast?

[dapper shard]

Yes.

[abstract wagon]

fs thanks

[odd kraken]

does anyone know if facebook ABCS is still a thing?

[abstract wagon]

yeah it is

they did it for most recent summer & fall iirc

[tacit halo]

Not 0

Okay maybe 2000 was an over exaggeration

I honestly lost count

I got a ton of startup offers

Most were kinda shitty

But a few are willing to pay very well

Faang level or even much better

Out of 300-500 real applications, maybe around 15 interviews. Honestly, 90% of my applications were sent within the past month

I have a few interviews in the next few days and months

Like confluent on the 18th

[terse torrent]

yeah it is

[abstract wagon]

good luck dude

[terse torrent]

i got rejected from abcs

[tacit halo]

Akuna on the 20th

[terse torrent]

my app was good too or so i thought

[tacit halo]

What’s abcs?

[abstract wagon]

all my homies hate abcs

[terse torrent]

leetcode bootcamp

its ok ill just do blind75 instead 😠

[tacit halo]

And what’s oci?

[terse torrent]

is abcs apps out for winter

i would love to do that

still

xd

[tacit halo]

Seriously I don’t know most of these acronyms

[terse torrent]

idk oci lol

[abstract wagon]

oracle cloud infrastructure

[terse torrent]

blind75 makes me sad

[abstract wagon]

i think it's one of their good teams

[terse torrent]

i got many questions on that list

[tacit halo]

Acronyms are horrible

[terse torrent]

if only i did it earlier

alien dictionary straight up

no mod

[abstract wagon]

next year @terse torrent or maybe even later this semester

[terse torrent]

[tacit halo]

Oracle definitely hires quite late

[terse torrent]

yes

[tacit halo]

Like into April

[terse torrent]

i am proud of myself i did 3 dp mediums today

without looking at the solution

[tacit halo]

They’ve were at my March career fair for summer last year

And they pay really well

[terse torrent]

oracle rejected me

[odd kraken]

how do you apply to facebook ABCS? can you attend if you don't attend a target school?

[tacit halo]

Oracle pays better than Apple

[abstract wagon]

yeah i think they have an app for yu to apply through

[terse torrent]

i applied on some mailchimp link that looked sus af

[tacit halo]

Resume reject?

[terse torrent]

uhh it was thru school portal

[tacit halo]

Did u get an interview?

[terse torrent]

i dont know abt winter apps tho

resume yes

[odd kraken]

oh rip maybe it's only for people who go to target school

[terse torrent]

no interview

[odd kraken]

fb does 0 recruitment at my school so i wouldnt be surprised

[abstract wagon]

@odd kraken why do you need it even

[terse torrent]

i got a rejection from their recruiter

hollow exp is stacked

[odd kraken]

honestly a lot of people at my school would benefit from it

[terse torrent]

also btw the tesla rectuier ghosted

[abstract wagon]

its ok all my homies hate her

[terse torrent]

@abstract wagon the second one didnt ghost

[abstract wagon]

oh nice

[terse torrent]

"forwarded my app to recruiters"

"if match u will hear back"

[abstract wagon]

eyyyyy

[terse torrent]

i regret i didnt email the first one w the second email

second one was much better

[abstract wagon]

ye ikr

[terse torrent]

idk who even recruits for the other roles

so like

[spare lichen]

Anyone have any opinions about internships, their availability and quality in the state of Minnesota?

[sinful oar]

Target is located in Minnesota, and underclassmen friendly.

[sinful oar]

It’s open to everyone, I only really see apps open in the summer for the fall session.

[odd kraken]

hmm, I see 🤔 I've heard there are sessions throughout the year so was wondering if there were apps around for winter / spring

[patent sluice]

isn't epic systems in midwest

[spare lichen]

Ooo... neat!
Not very familiar with that company, but I'll be sure to check it out