school doesn't matter
#2021_summer
dapper shard
thorn leaf
Took me three long years to realize that
pliant hawk
if anything fail at school, extend ur school by a year
thorn leaf
Thought GPA was everything
pliant hawk
more internships
lethal ore
Thought GPA was everything
Same
thorn leaf
Internship grind 😕 exhausting
dapper shard
gpa only matters for grad school
pliant hawk
that shits a 12 unit class
12 am - 11:59pm
pliant hawk
jus keep it above 3.00 is what i heard
thorn leaf
Yeahhhh
dapper shard
yeah youre right
pliant hawk
experience triumphs everything
dapper shard
very few companies with gpa cutoffs for applications
thorn leaf
Getting that first experience tho :(
dapper shard
my first two internships were unpaid
dapper shard
^
twin obsidian
C’s get degrees
pliant hawk
i felt like giving up at least 20 times during months of august - november
runic tinsel
at the time i got a faang internship offer my gpa was 2.98
thorn leaf
Dang
pliant hawk
an inspiration
runic tinsel
but i brought it up a lot in the last 2 years ofc
thorn leaf
No target school gang 
runic tinsel
why "an inspiration"? it clearlt doesn't matter tho
dapper shard
it really doesn't
honestly
i would almost wager school doesn't matter for getting into places
schools only help with recruiting fairs and stuff
in my experience anyway
lethal ore
I remember not applying to selective companies during august
thorn leaf
Yea sometimes those might be the initial push which u need
pliant hawk
handshake helped me get my first
lethal ore
Cold email helped me
dapper shard
idk. im in buttfuck arkansas with a 3.4 gpa and im doing just fine
pliant hawk
i wanna learn how to do cold email. need to look more into it
thorn leaf
Damn good on u for cold emailing and getting the W
Same. Each time I've tried it's been 👻
lethal ore
I do get a lot of ghosts too lol
dapper shard
^
thorn leaf
Yeah I used rocketreach
lethal ore
And some responses are like please wait
dapper shard
i got a lot of ghosts doing it. i also got a lot of interviews from it though
pliant hawk
when u cold email do they send u an OA or set up an intervuiew?
lethal ore
For me it was interview
thorn leaf
Damnn
lethal ore
Cuz oa was automated
pliant hawk
o shit pog
dapper shard
and a couple of interviews at F500 places
still gazelle
c1 pays interns really well
dapper shard
too bad it was my first interview ever and i got fucked 
still gazelle
only reason why i want it 💀
lethal ore
I was kinda hoping to get a coding interview at least
dapper shard
good stepping stone company
lethal ore
So I can see what I need to work on
low epoch
too bad it was my first interview ever and i got fucked <:craughing:747174748521...
lol my first OA was like end of soph year w/ google
runic tinsel
companies are still hiring right?
dapper shard
just give me an offer after a behavioral interview 
dapper shard
companies are still hiring right?
yes they are
low epoch
companies are still hiring right?
yeah bud for sure
dapper shard
lol my first OA was like end of soph year w/ google
thats rough lmao
runic tinsel
thank god
thorn leaf
For summer?
dapper shard
yeah
thorn leaf
Yeah :(
low epoch
don't let people tell you most spots are filled either, but prob 90% of top companies are mostly done
dapper shard
cause they started hella early
runic tinsel
google's not done
low epoch
i mean top as in tippy top
dapper shard
for reference as to why most big places are done hiring
i remember filling out apps back in july
for big places
thorn leaf
Holy. I started with apps in September
low epoch
i was still going to company info sessions mid-december who were barely beginning to start looking at apps
dapper shard
i was over 70 by end august i think? or getting close to 100
i don't remember for sure
pliant hawk
Holy. I started with apps in September
august for me brudder
runic tinsel
yeah this year it's different i think
low epoch
yeah google closed aug 31 so starting in aug is smart
dapper shard
i applied to 211 places
low epoch
dawg people apply to 300+ places on the regular
dapper shard
and got one offer this year
low epoch
in one season
dapper shard
yeah fr
thorn leaf
I'm at 350-400
low epoch
i think i did 100 for 2
pliant hawk
3 fucking hirevue interviews
dapper shard
well i finished back in october. i think my roommate was at 520+
pliant hawk
all ghosted after
low epoch
hirevues are BS
thorn leaf
Where did u cop offer bibbz?
low epoch
and emotionally exhausting
pliant hawk
Where did u cop offer bibbz?
I got Kohls thru handshake
thorn leaf
Ayyy congrats
low epoch
nice
dapper shard
nice!
pliant hawk
they sent an OA, i emailed recruiter after asking yo can i get an interview
thorn leaf
Poggg
dapper shard
lmao google take notes
low epoch
random but did you put a lot of thought into the email to recruiter?
or just whip something up?
pliant hawk
whip something up
low epoch
great to hear, yeah i been thinking about cold emails for next season (prob for me will be new grad)
pliant hawk
low epoch
and the common theme i see is to keep it brief and describe your experience
pliant hawk
legit 1 sentence or 2
low epoch
in all honesty, that prob made the difference
dapper shard
and the common theme i see is to keep it brief and describe your experience
true. don't write something really long. recruiters are busy people. describe who you are and get to the point of what you want
pliant hawk
yea i hate reading so when i write its straight to the point
low epoch
yeah often when i see templates here, i honestly think people are too verbose
dapper shard
not really no
thorny gorge
pliant hawk
yea idk wtf to write for cold emails
dapper shard
or well
thorny gorge
u just say
thorn leaf
Like that's what I do and the email tends to get long
dapper shard
for cold emails
pliant hawk
i have 0 accomplishmenmts lol
thorny gorge
gib me jobbie
pliant hawk
gib jub ty
low epoch
like whoever sent owen that email they posted asking for an interview was actually pretty good/short
they posted the other day, it was like
thorn leaf
O is it tagged?
thorny gorge
send it ty
low epoch
Subject line: previous intern at x and y asking for interview (or something)
pliant hawk
thorny gorge
what if i got no experience
low epoch
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/h_5aqXd6tkzH6rtQTWMJ8uLYOhHZevEzIkD...
yes, that was a very well-thought email
low epoch
i mean that seems like the precondition to successful emails ofc (actual experience)
dapper shard
i need to go ahead and email datadog soon
pliant hawk
yea i dont have the confidence? or something to like send cold emails
low epoch
the only thing i might change from that email above is the wording "how can i start the interview process"
it's a little too aggressive especially for a recruiter-recipient
low epoch
actually maybe i'm wrong, being assertive seems to fucking work lol
thorn leaf
Damn, not only does Owen have IBM, he also has an offer for Tesla bruh
Like that's huge
For cold emailing
thorny gorge
shrewd karma
knotty bone
Hey y'all, i haven't started applying for summer as yet, gonna start now! How's the hiring situation for summer this year??
knotty bone
Still hard?! 😭🤦
pliant hawk
covid got it mad hard
lethal ore
Cuz many companies are closing soon
knotty bone
The thing was, spring21 was my graduating sem, and i luckily got a spring internship last month, so ill be able to do a summer internship as well.
Gotta look hard now!
runic tinsel
Cuz many companies are closing soon
I don't think so tbh, this year it's definitely different because a lot of companies waited until a little later to evaluate candidates
knotty bone
So, there is still a chance?
sinful tinsel
Do high school swe interns matter?
still gazelle
Do high school swe interns matter?
huh
thorny gorge
i still think its way harder due to companies having to lay off a lot of workers
except for the big companies like amazon
sinful tinsel
Like Ik a hs senior who got an intern and it makes me feel super behind lmao
thorny gorge
which are fucking thriving in covid
thorny gorge
Like Ik a hs senior who got an intern and it makes me feel super behind lmao
first you gotta stop comparing yourself
set yo on pace
ez pz
slap
low epoch
do college students even list hs accomplishments? damn though
i suppose a tech internship deserves being on resume though
pliant hawk
which are fucking thriving in covid
LMAOO
thorny gorge
do college students even list hs accomplishments? damn though
if youre a freshman and got nothing lul
pliant hawk
amazon gave me OA and i bombed it 
lethal ore
As a freshman I didn’t even have any accomplishments from hs lol
thorny gorge
As a freshman I didn’t even have any accomplishments from hs lol
did u get amazon oa yet
thorny gorge
amazon gave me OA and i bombed it <:kekw:648654095560867840>
when did u apply
pliant hawk
september
thorn leaf
Got to oa3 of Amazon and then reject
pliant hawk
amazon deadass rng
humble saddle
i applied in aug and never got it 🙂
thorn leaf
Applied in October
thorny gorge
whats the rng of getting all easy
sinful tinsel
When is the deadline for Amazon?
humble saddle
When is the deadline for Amazon?
when they fill up
vital pewter
Ready to get that L after oa 3
vital pewter
Still ghosted after oa3 part 273929383982383
When did you do it?
mossy swan
12/21
mossy swan
stop
stiff vessel
its been break btw
mossy swan
thorny gorge
pliant hawk
apply july be set for next year june 
pliant hawk
august i think
thorny gorge
When did they open apps this year
so I can be on top of my ass
And how do u guys interview prep
Pramp????
frosty ginkgo
void mason
Waiting on Facebook, Twitter, and Dolby rn
sonic badger
Still ghosted after oa3 part 273929383982383
ghosted
its been less than 2 weeks
during the holidays
yall need to chill
abstract wagon
where can i find recruiters email? Or people usually send cold message on linkedIn 🤮
thick ridge
salesql chrome extension
and when you visit their linkedin page it'll give you the most likely email
abstract wagon
thank yo
lmao this software looks quite illegal, is it some NSA intern personal project ?
thick ridge
i mean there are plenty of websites that do this
like mailscoop.io
this just puts it in a chrome extension
abstract wagon
damn
poor recruiters, they will receive a lot of garbage requests. Now it's my turn
salesql timed out?
when does it come back?
thick ridge
no
wary flame
thorn leaf
rocketreach was limited as well iirc
ember night
So it's January, remaining intern positions are at small-mid sized cos?
Jumpstart is becoming less and less active on the company side so far
abstract wagon
@ember night more or less yeah
silk swallow
restive falcon
good luck!!
dapper vector
Hi anyone apply for credit suisse's sophomore analyst's program
i had my interview for the first round in october and i still havent heard back
dusky halo
anyone have advice for amazon intern phone interview?
thorn leaf
try the search feature
abstract wagon
should i work on adding features to a language using OCaml with a prof for Jane Street rec letter?
or would putting eggs in 1 basket be a waste of time
dapper shard
pretty much everyone in this server has done amazon phone interview lmao
dapper shard
should i work on adding features to a language using OCaml with a prof for Jane ...
i mean if you're interested in going for jane street i don't see a problem in doing that. i would just make sure you are also applying to other places and you aren't only focusing on jane street
abstract wagon
im more into security but there are no other courses i can take really
sinful oar
Lenovo is actively recruiting for internships through RippleMatch
still gazelle
ripplematch's site is buggy as hell
thorn leaf
ive got like 2 matches on ripplematch which ended in Ls, bruh has it been successful for any of u guys?
dapper vector
I had one interview thru there
still gazelle
they just wasted 8 mins of my time
dapper vector
I had one interview thru there
i did a hackerrank first but idk if i was supposed to do another one
it was for BNY Melon
thorn leaf
damn
dapper vector
im actually trying to apply to some more internships thru there rn
but i need to update my sad empty resume lol
sinful oar
ive got like 2 matches on ripplematch which ended in Ls, bruh has it been succes...
I got a lot of interviews and got my eBay offer through ripplematch.
thorn leaf
I got a lot of interviews and got my eBay offer through ripplematch.
damn congrats holy
dapper vector
I got a lot of interviews and got my eBay offer through ripplematch.
Indeed congrats!
sinful oar
filling out your profile as much as you can is key
umbral heart
it was for BNY Melon
If you passed the hr, youd get an invite to a pair coding
dapper shard
ive got like 2 matches on ripplematch which ended in Ls, bruh has it been succes...
Got 13 interviews through ripplematch
thorn leaf
Got 13 interviews through ripplematch
wow thats insane
ive updated my profile as much as possible
nothing 😦
umbral heart
i think i needed to do the hackerrank
The hr was really easy, good practice tbh
dapper vector
i guess ill do the second hackerank
yeah at this point i just look at them as practice
thank you
umbral heart
Gotta level up my lad, and only way is thru exposure
dapper vector
indeed
timber sky
Anyone have good resources on learning graphs?
I always have to look up for the solution when solving graph LC
I try to understand the solution tho^
round cloud
G4G has a really good topo sort article
nimble flax
are internships usually unpaid? like if an internship posting doesnt mention salary and glassdoor says its paid should i assume its paid or no
timber sky
G4G has a really good topo sort article
What’s G4G?
dapper vector
geeks for geeks
still gazelle
G4G is a lifesaver
still gazelle
are internships usually unpaid? like if an internship posting doesnt mention sal...
like 99% of CS internships are paid
usually the unpaid ones will explicitly say theyre unpaid
still gazelle
ive looked at hundreds of listings and ive found less than 10 unpaid
nimble flax
ive submitted 40 apps so far
dapper shard
in my experience with unpaid internships they will explicitly say they are unpaid
still gazelle
^
nimble flax
which is like so pathetic to read lol youre gonna give all these requirements and qualifications and stuff and then youre gonna outright say that i get nothing out of it
dapper vector
yep
still gazelle
if there is a single requirement then it should be paid
dapper shard
as much as i hate unpaid work
crystal river
I guess you get a line to put on your resume
still gazelle
unpaid labor should be a crime
crystal river
if you're desparate
nimble flax
it is 😳
crystal river
*desperate
dapper shard
for freshman and soph years it is good for experience
low epoch
I mean yeah if youre fresh/soph just do unpaid you need it
dapper shard
begrudgingly having to admit that
nimble flax
yeah im a freshman
low epoch
Keep looking while u have the unpaid offer
dapper shard
^
still gazelle
yeah but at least pay us 7.25 / hr
nimble flax
i feel like im applying a little late
low epoch
Who cares about “dignity” and “self respect” get the experience and get out
nimble flax
but also applying with 0 college experience is also dumb af
dapper shard
thing with unpaid is you can definitely leave at any point
nimble flax
at least now i have the bottleneck course at my uni under my belt
low epoch
That’s good, my one data structures class had 45 people and only 25 survived
nimble flax
rip
dapper shard
ggs
low epoch
Yall top schoolers dont be knowing the struggle
dapper vector
yeah but at least pay us 7.25 / hr
that is lower than NYS's minimum wage
dapper shard
talent at top schools they survive their classes no matter what lmao
a lot of people in my CS program dropped after the entry level programming classes
nimble flax
if you apply for a remote job out of state is the minimum wage their state or your state
theirs right
dapper vector
im assuming theirs
low epoch
For sure, i wont downplay their work but they have strong tutoring and TA system and smart friends at good schools
dapper vector
a lot of people in my CS program dropped after the entry level programming class...
yeah intro to cs and discrete math
biggest weedout courses
low epoch
discrete wrecks more people than you’d expect
dapper vector
alongside calc 1 and 2
nimble flax
discrete math lowkey kicked my ass
dapper vector
it also kicked my ass
dapper vector
i was actually gonna change into a different major because of those 2
but data structures was easier
low epoch
It’s funny how people struggle differently. Discrete was cake for me but automata (idk if name is same elsewhere) messed me up
nimble flax
i ended up with a b+ which isnt that bad but my worst class 😔
dapper shard
automata theory?
low epoch
Yes
dapper shard
yeah fuck that
low epoch
Proofs out the wazoo
dapper shard
im not doing anything theory in CS if i can avoid it lmao
i finished with an A in discrete
but definitely would've avoided the class altogether if i could
nimble flax
i got an A- in my data structures class
dapper vector
i think the intro cs classes are the hardest because its introducing a new method of thinking
low epoch
For sure, knowing how to code before freshman yr is a buff
dapper vector
b- in discrete
dapper shard
i had already been programming since soph of high school so freshman year CS classes were pretty easy
low epoch
Even a lil bit of experience. I speak from experience
dapper vector
those were my first coding classes
my hs was pretty crap
didnt even take physics or calc there
dapper shard
i wanted to hack video games so i just did that in my free time in high school
and ended up learning pointer chains and some intermediate C++ concepts and stuff as a result
low epoch
I had an independent study my senior year with a smart physics teacher and wanted to do coding. So this mf makes me take a coursera stanford data structures course
And that’s how i started, in the 8th circle of hell
dapper vector
smart man
edgy dagger
My introductory coding class fucked me up at my first university.
dapper vector
yeah data structures was much more bearable than the intro cs class
low epoch
Actually yeah he was an interesting dude. EE/physics double major at rice and he excelled and was genius but said he preferred teaching high school kids
edgy dagger
Ended up taking the equivalent at a community college and got a A.
dapper vector
EE is pretty tough so damn
low epoch
He fixed washers and dryers right out of college cuz he said it was chill af
Imagine your repairman was a genius
Electrician type people are often smart tbh
dapper vector
they are
still gazelle
EE is so hard
dapper vector
tbh some EE majors in my school/classes dont know how to do shit
edgy dagger
Also shout out to the useless engineering class I was forced to take that made us code in MATLAB.
low epoch
It’s cuz when u google EE stuff the resources are so messy and look like black magic
dapper vector
ew matlab sucks
edgy dagger
It can burn in hell.
dapper vector
It’s cuz when u google EE stuff the resources are so messy and look like black m...
yep, there's not a lot of good resources
for ee
cs on the other hand has way more
low epoch
I dont understand why. So many other stem disciplines have clear textbooks or stack exchange forums with ppl who like helping but with EE it’s like the fucking illuminati
To find info u gotta practically join a secret cult
fading bison
anyone familar w PayPal's interview process?
obtuse otter
god fucking dammit
i filled that out last year and still nothing
wouldnt bet on ripplematch for froshie
ionic fog
and you'll be fine
i struggle so hard w/ writing proofs
dapper shard
i struggle so hard w/ writing proofs
just depends on your algorithm course and what it focuses on. mine didn't do proofs
pliant hawk
Mine was basically leetcode
dapper shard
mine included very very few leetcode questions and was just a lot of theoretical knowledge about algorithms that lead to the building blocks to applying to practically, but overall i didn't find my algorithms class that helpful tbh
abstract wagon
I am doing lot of electronics now
Lol it's true, materials aren't really straightforward
But it's because you need a lot of prerequisites to understand even basic electrical stuff but there is a great community about practical stuff
dapper vector
mine included very very few leetcode questions and was just a lot of theoretical...
Same
Learned dynamic programming conceptually but not how to actually apply it
And same for graphs
abstract wagon
I scheduled interview for tom but never got confirmation
I emailed recruited and she is out of office until tom?
sinful tinsel
You guys think it’s too late to apply for Microsoft explore?
still gazelle
if its open, just apply
abstract wagon
does microsoft do fall?
pale coyote
no
round cloud
has anyone heard back from MSFT at all for SWE Garage?
vital pewter
Nope
thorny gorge
anyone get anything regarding amazon leap program?
thorn leaf
Leap is a freshman/sophomore exclusive program like Google STEP/fbu/Microsoft xplore is right?
tulip jay
has anyone heard back from MSFT at all for SWE Garage?
nope :/
i meant that for the other question mb @thorn leaf
garage is juniors too tho if that helps
thorn leaf
Oooo okok tysm yeah that helps
tulip jay
but vancouver only i think
thorn leaf
Hopefully they're still accepting applications rip
thorn leaf
Ayyyyy nice tyty
tardy minnow
anyone get anything regarding amazon leap program?
Had a recruiter call me on Monday
thorny gorge
Had a recruiter call me on Monday
really?, when did u apply and did u have referral?
tardy minnow
really?, when did u apply and did u have referral?
applied last wednesday and no I did not have a referral
wednesday before*
thorny gorge
goddamn that is fast
tardy minnow
yeah fr
thorny gorge
i applied 2 days ago
i guess i gotta wait
what did the recruiter say @tardy minnow
tardy minnow
talked about my application and whether Id be interviewing for sde or leap
tardy minnow
ye
sinful tinsel
Can anyone do a mock interview for me?
sinful oar
round cloud
is it just the one phone interview ruond?
abstract wagon
which is better amazon future leaders or dropbox launch?
loud hollow
mmm maybe dropbox launch because its been around and well established
You dont know what you’re getting out of afl bc first year its been out?
keen birch
how much different is AFL compared to regular SDE
loud hollow
Idk just my guess
abstract wagon
does dropbox look better than amazon on resume?
somber saddle
Has anyone done the IMC Trading OA?
abstract wagon
no i have offer from amazon and don't know if it is worth the time to interview with dropbox
im kind of sick of leetcode
somber saddle
Sounds like you already have your answer
I personally would do it, but you've already said that you really don't want to interview
humble pendant
if you already accepted Amazon, I don't think Dropbox is worth reneging
warm dust
has anyone heard anything back from twitter academy?
thorny gorge
amazon said fk u
abstract wagon
wtf why did i study leetcode for facebook
dapper shard
I finally got fb interview
thick ridge
bro??
worthy terrace
Ended up getting rejected by Twitch 😦
round cloud
I thought they wouldnt reject until after sending OA3?
thorn leaf
Ended up getting rejected by Twitch 😦
whatt
the OAs are placebo so im guessing its a straight up resume reject?
abstract wagon
i think i failed
the question was easy but i kept making dumb mistakes
i really wanted fb though
spent a week prepping and none if it helped
inland bloom
thorny gorge
@abstract wagon u get em next time
abstract wagon
dropbox vs amazon
which looks better on resume?
dapper shard
for what specifically?
security?
they probably hold the same weight tbh
maybe leans a little bit more in favor in amazon but not by much
loud hollow
wherever you wanna work lmfaooo
worn scarab
depends on what you write about 'em
dapper shard
if you're a third year i wouldn't worry about resume padding at this point
unless you want to work some place other than those two places.
abstract wagon
for what specifically?
launch vs afl
worn scarab
how make-or-break is a final interview? might be a dumb question... i'm just wondering it the chances of getting axed after coming this far are still high
dapper shard
you can't go wrong with putting either on your resume and it would afford you interviews regardless
odd kraken
i would find dropbox more interesting personally
abstract wagon
if you're a third year i wouldn't worry about resume padding at this point
im 2nd year
dapper shard
^
odd kraken
isn't dropbox known for having a really high hiring bar though?
dapper shard
i personally would find dropbox more interesting as well.
abstract wagon
ok i have interview on thursday
time to back to leetcode
odd kraken
imo dropbox has a better engineering reputation
sinful tinsel
if i ever come to a situation in an interview where i dont know the answer to code, shod i rely on the interviewer for hints?
loud hollow
yea dropbox has super high hiring bar so
worn scarab
if i ever come to a situation in an interview where i dont know the answer to co...
No, just say what's on your mind - think out loud
loud hollow
if looking to return back to dropbox is probably better
sinful tinsel
No, just say what's on your mind - think out loud
how wod dat help tho? wouldnt that just waste time?
thorn leaf
No, just say what's on your mind - think out loud
my fear after doing all of this is when they just say mhmm mhmm
they dont help or say anything else
worn scarab
how wod dat help tho? wouldnt that just waste time?
If you're in an interview where they do give hints (usually the case), they know what hint to give
And if they don't give hints, you might rubberduck yourself into an answer. At worst (best) you're being honest about your abilities
quasi bridge
companies like to say that they want to hear about your thought process, but in reality its all about memorizing leetcode and writing code as fast as possible
worn scarab
they dont help or say anything else
that's wack, but it's different with everyone. I've had some stone-faced interviewers, and others who I talk with like we're best pals in class
sinful tinsel
companies like to say that they want to hear about your thought process, but in ...
have u communicated well, but still get rejected due to ur code quality being poor?
flat vine
🗿
thorn leaf
that's wack, but it's different with everyone. I've had some stone-faced intervi...
Yeah ive had a good chunk of my interviewers being those stone-cold wall esque
tough luck i guess
abstract wagon
dropbox launch says no previous exp
should i still expect hard interview?
worn scarab
yes
dapper shard
Yeah ive had a good chunk of my interviewers being those stone-cold wall esque
same. this has been a lot of my technical interviewers. my zillow interviewer was the only one not like that
thorn leaf
lool my worst one was someone who was "sick" so they didnt turn on their camera and muted themselves and me
abstract wagon
did anyone interview for facebook security?
if i get corrected for major mistakes is that instant reject
thorn leaf
so i was talking to myself
flat vine
so then u wouldnt need to explain thought process right
worn scarab
lool my worst one was someone who was "sick" so they didnt turn on their camera ...
that's brutal 😂
terse torrent
thorny gorge
@abstract wagon arent you a sophy
worn scarab
@dapper shard what is rng?
flat vine
rng = luck
abstract wagon
<@456226577798135808> arent you a sophy
yes
thorny gorge
dropbox or amazon -> its gonna help u in the future anyways
worn scarab
rng = luck
?? how?
thorn leaf
random number generator - a phrase ppl use when they mean complete randomness
thorny gorge
flat vine
Random Number Generator
worn scarab
ahhhhh
abstract wagon
dropbox or amazon -> its gonna help u in the future anyways
?
abstract wagon
are u aiming for fb security next yr
i just interviewed for facebook security 15 minutes ago
abstract wagon
people on here said i needed dynamic programming and dfs for facebook security
wasted a week of studying
thorn leaf
mooood
terse torrent
bop
thorn leaf
same bop
same
dapper shard
facebook doesn't ask dp
ionic rune
Bop you don't have nothing. You have us 
thorny gorge
for bezos?
sonic badger
indeed
restive falcon
hey please don't discuss exact questions from interviews
I'm gonna delete your comment now
@abstract wagon
sonic badger
i mean id be down for leap if i dont get SDE
thorny gorge
thorny gorge
well in my eyes its like
sonic badger
lit-er
thorny gorge
leap is easier
somber saddle
I've heard about people getting changed toward leap if they don't make swe
thorny gorge
whats the propel program
sonic badger
thorny gorge
its like 4 weeks of doing amazon coding problems or something like that lmao
first 4 weeks in a hands-on SDE bootcamp, learning how to solve sample Amazon problems
abstract wagon
its like 4 weeks of doing amazon coding problems or something like that lmao
yeah i dont want to do that
somber saddle
4 weeks of leetcode
abstract wagon
thorny gorge
not gonna lie
that would be pretty lit
prepare me for Google
LMAOOOO
jk they pound the LP into me
thorn leaf
abstract wagon
but paid for it
$33/hr
thorny gorge
having amazon on resume is already a big 😈
abstract wagon
dropbox launch doesnt have training
dapper shard
was going to do amazon propel
but they ghosting me. probably because i have summer offer already and the recruiter didn't sound too happy about me mentioning it to begin with
i don't think they let you move it to off season though right?
narrow patrol
i don't think they let you move it to off season though right?
not fall, and spring is full rn lol
i think
ionic rune
Yea also heard winter/spring was full
dapper shard
if they actually did return offers from the program for full time then i would be more willing to do it
but the only information the recruiter gave me was based on the SDE internship instead when it came to that
so idk if propel has as high of a potential return offer rate as SDE does
narrow patrol
i legit havent had a process update in months lol
abstract wagon
umbral heart
dont you have an offer rn tc
narrow patrol
o yea i do
not rly complaining
just curious why i havent had an update
like, is the process slowing down in general or is it specifically me haha
also, if i could get fall that would be nice
timber sky
all technical?
abstract wagon
interviewer: could you do that in place without creating another string?
me: creates another string recursively instead of iteratively
interviewer: ok looks good
potent meadow
@abstract wagon Which role did you interview to and where (Was it security engineering or more of a research role)?
abstract wagon
<@456226577798135808> Which role did you interview to and where (Was it security...
security at facebook
abstract wagon
Can I pm you ?
yes
thin ember
Difference between Amazon and Amazon Web Services? Some recruiter hit me up from AWS
abstract wagon
AWS is cooler
quick pawn
on average
There are some teams at Amazon that I would still prefer but Amazon is less cool on average I’d agree
narrow patrol
how much for banana
i am working on BPM system for my spring internship (banana price management)
thin ember
Join my team at AWS
Oh pog, u know any other teams i think im getting team matched with Aqua cuz of c++ exp
thin ember
Distributing Bananas near the Amazon River
abstract wagon
what should i do security research or work with prof on compiler in OCaml ?
is it true that if a prof recommends you to jane street it can help?
restive falcon
you don't need to know ocaml for jane street
abstract wagon
i know but if i have a project in it does that make me stand out
i dont think so
they're just looking for smart people
abstract wagon
they're just looking for smart people
what does that mean though? looking at Ochad's resume it seems like a cool project is a good idea
dapper shard
literally just looking for smart people lol
humble saddle
My friend talked to a Jane st recruiter
Here’s his/her message
a 3.6 isn’t a good gpa in their eyes, neither is a T5 school in cs
quick pawn
What is t5, I have no clue what 5th place considering it’s different on every website
abstract wagon
"Frankly, I'm not all that surprised "
Frankly you're an asshole
flat vine
cmu
quick pawn
T4 is obvious but I’m always sus of people that say t5
abstract wagon
my college is on their hiring list
flat vine
and florida state university
low epoch
Damn that realtalk with a recruiter anywhere is mad valuable
abstract wagon
my gpa is way too low
simple saffron
what’s a high enough GPA
low epoch
4.20
simple saffron
blaze it
flat vine
they put emphasis on competitive programming so u can code Best Time to Buy and Sell Stock
low epoch
what should i do security research or work with prof on compiler in OCaml ?
I think palo alto networks has a lot of security/cybersec roles since u seem interested
abstract wagon
only 1 new grad i can find that went to js from my school
althought they do recruiting events and one time back in 2012 did a project with some students
idk if my gpa is anywhere near
so ig not worth trying
low epoch
UCF and its 4 satellite campuses
still gazelle
bro how is t5 school in cs not good
mfs dont know how hard it is to get into UC berk/ cmu/mit/ga tech for cs
quick pawn
T4 is good but idk what they consider 5th
low epoch
ga tech is t5??
flat vine
huh
still gazelle
oh wait
quick pawn
I definitely think most people would disagree
low epoch
I thought gatech was the pleb school of t10
still gazelle
no
flat vine
i know a lot of opinions differ byt ive never seen gt as top 5
somber saddle
Top 10 cs universities I wouldn't even care at that point
humble saddle
lol we go to uiuc
still gazelle
its cornell / uwash
uiuc is a state school thats proabbly why
ivy league recruiters look down on pleb state schoolers
quick pawn
Yeah officially uwqsh/Cornell is t5
But I’ve heard people say so many different schools for 5th
low epoch
That’s so dumb i’m sure uiuc and uwash curriculums are beast mode
humble saddle
But I’ve heard people say so many different schools for 5th
Not according to usnews or csrankings
low epoch
we should make our own rankings here
still gazelle
man i go to a&m and i think its CS curriculum is underrated.
somber saddle
cs rankings vs the undergrad curriculum is not the same
humble saddle
anyway, not the point! ELITISM IS STUPID
abstract wagon
i kind of feel bad b/c i didnt finish the project with a prof
but at the same time i want to do security research
low epoch
man i go to a&m and i think its CS curriculum is underrated.
i mean im in tx so i can attest u a&m ppl are legit
quick pawn
Regardless no recruiter considers whatever 5th place on the same level as t4
still gazelle
i mean im in tx so i can attest u a&m ppl are legit
✊
low epoch
The only weird thing there that makes sense to me is the cp experience
Hft is smart stuff
thin ember
the only ranking that matters
still gazelle
my friend whos master in codeforces got a jane street internship
somber saddle
takes one to know one
thin ember
yes bro i get my condoms from vending machines
humble saddle
Some countries the birth rates are on a serious decline
Japan, South Korea have some interesting propaganda for that
low epoch
i mean i would rather college educated ppl have kids, on average
abstract wagon
back to original question(sorry to repeat but it got buried)
should i do programming languages project or security research?
Research with prof
Pros: working with functional programming which I like, gpa inflation, simp project for Jane Street, learning about compilers, feedback from prof
Cons: takes time from security research and school
Security research
Pros: most likely on my own outside of school, looks good for security resume and I would like to do security research internships or career
Cons: takes time from research with prof and school
still gazelle
yeah but the college educated ppl arent having kids
still gazelle
back to original question(sorry to repeat but it got buried)
should i do program...
what do u wanna do
what r u passionate bout man
humble saddle
back to original question(sorry to repeat but it got buried)
should i do program...
Not gonna help for Jane street, but the functional programming research sounds cool
still gazelle
man itd be nice having kids once i have a house
low epoch
yeah just do research, it’s experience
still gazelle
ill make their asses do all the chores
flat vine
having kids is something my parents force on me because they want grandchildren
vivid lintel
Do the security research if that's what you wanna do long term. Don't put all eggs in one basket
low epoch
ill make their asses do all the chores
smh you’ll be the swe asking lc hards in interviews
still gazelle
no dude
im gonna ask LC easies
cuz i dont want a kid who does LC hards to threaten my position
low epoch
I’m gonna ask ur kids lc hards bro
thorny gorge
the only ranking that matters
the thing is, its only the people who actually did the survey
low epoch
Delete
vivid lintel
the thing is, its only the people who actually did the survey
Yea I went to rutgers and haven't been laid, those polls are fake news
still gazelle
!logs
bro i go to a&m havent gotten laid first sem
people are fuckin
its just that i was too busy coding
vivid lintel
Lmao cornell kids as soon as they get a taste of freedom
still gazelle
bro i think all the places in rural areas
abstract wagon
shit i hate college
i cant have time to do stuff i want
still gazelle
have kids who fuck a lot
thorny gorge
Yea I went to rutgers and haven't been laid, those polls are fake news
i go to Ru too
abstract wagon
it seems like only the hot guys get laid
thorny gorge
still gazelle
its not about being hot bro
thorny gorge
imagine getting laid in CS
still gazelle
its confidence man
abstract wagon
im hot
still gazelle
being hot just makes it easier
vivid lintel
i go to Ru too
:O
abstract wagon
that got debunked though
thorny gorge
@vivid lintel are u not in rucs or not active
vivid lintel
<@!236450324632698881> are u not in rucs or not active
Wdym?
thorny gorge
ive never seen u
still gazelle
u just gotta be an alpha bro
thorny gorge
still gazelle
be the best at whatever u do
vivid lintel
Oh lol
thorny gorge
not gonna lie
vivid lintel
Nah I'm not in any clubs
still gazelle
bro im goofy as hell
thorny gorge
the few cuties in tech
abstract wagon
😎
restive falcon
bruh
thorny gorge
i need to bag asap
abstract wagon
sexlessness rises with education
https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim
abstract wagon
bonk
thorny gorge
cobalt raven
shopify summer apps are out
restive falcon
can we have one day without this type of conversation
jade rock
no
restive falcon
at least not in 2021_summer please
cobalt raven
still gazelle
u aint lyin bro u aint lyinnn
cobalt raven
who does the github repo? got to let them know
abstract wagon
cobalt raven
canadians only?
p sure it's everyone
thorny gorge
shopify
abstract wagon
this is the perfect time to use my mx keyboard
abstract wagon
long essay ahead of me
cobalt raven
boba stop interviewing wtf HAHA
abstract wagon
NO
cobalt raven
????
abstract wagon
low epoch
this is the perfect time to use my mx keyboard
you have a mexico keyboard?
thorny gorge
wtf
abstract wagon
you have a mexico keyboard?
vivid lintel
Boba stop stealing offers
cobalt raven
brown key supremacy
thorny gorge
shopify hosting presentations fr
vivid lintel
Let others eat too
abstract wagon
its actually 20% men -> 60 % women
abstract wagon
brown key supremacy
u mean switches?
cobalt raven
same difference
abstract wagon
silk ridge
brown colored keys, red switches 
cobalt raven
mech keyboard nerds can correct me
abstract wagon
my reds are shakin
low epoch
mods said stop with the topic
still gazelle
who cares
patent sluice
bussy?
cobalt raven
my reds are shakin
even my browns are too loud LOL how do u do this
thorny gorge
browns are not loud wtf
low epoch
do you people get used to the loud click clack i can't stand it
abstract wagon
and use foam to reduce sound
cobalt raven
my friends complain when i use my keyboard hehe
abstract wagon
- rubber bands
flat vine
i think the loud click clack is why people buy them
restive falcon
mods said stop with the topic
can we not make this channel a sausage fest?
yall literally talk so much about women & sex
abstract wagon
my board sounds amazing, trust
restive falcon
keep it to dms i dont care
but be aware that this type of conversation is very isolating for women in tech
flat vine
cscareers mad horny tonight
abstract wagon
its not me
humble saddle
this channel is just brogrammer vibes
abstract wagon
im changed man
marsh meadow
p r o m i s c o u s youth
low epoch
just stop talking about it, please
someone brings it up, just drop it, don't follow up
restive falcon
🙏
jade rock
h
restive falcon
like i said please guys its the 2021_summer channel
still gazelle
i drink beer while coding. am i a brogrammer?
marsh meadow
c o u s c o u s
flat vine
so whos gonna make the group dm
waxen bobcat
e
thick shore
also this is literally 2021 summer btw lol
idk how any of this pertains to 2021 internships
abstract wagon
its very relevant
marsh meadow
imagine dairy
humble saddle
@thick shore what do you think the gender ratio is on the server
abstract wagon
95% men
5% women
cobalt raven
@thick shore how to add this? https://www.shopify.ca/careers/interns#Jobs
marsh meadow
2: 9998
abstract wagon
@cobalt raven i was looking for the internship and i realized I was on the spotify website the whole time
cobalt raven
summer
abstract wagon
every tech discord im in is 95% men
thick shore
ill have to manually msg it 
cobalt raven
ill have to manually msg it <:peepoDumb:756789041164320850>
hard working king
abstract wagon
/poll bot
humble saddle
every tech discord im in is 95% men
and you wonder why we need more diversity
abstract wagon
and you wonder why we need more diversity
nah diversity is just so i can blame my gender for sucking at coding /s
cobalt raven
linked to the github repo or something
thick shore
we use different github repos as sources of truth
marsh meadow
SOURCE OF TRUTH
cobalt raven
🧠
abstract wagon
nvm f spotify
fuck i meant shopify
thick shore
i couldve done the approach where u monitor linkedin/glassdoor but its way more effort
this is like the same value proposition for like 2% of the work
abstract wagon
🧠
thick shore
it took like a hour to code up
cobalt raven
dw i just monitored LI for u since i just saw it pop up on my feed
marsh meadow
any people who are in the link?
vivid lintel
since when does bloomberg use fp?
thick shore
lots of companies use reactive style of programming which is functional
vivid lintel
I've interned twice and haven't heard much about fp at bloomberg
flat vine
discord uses elixir which is fp
humble saddle
what companies use FP?
lots of companies use haskell for some teams
vivid lintel
there are some people at bb who like fp langs like ocaml or haskell, but those languages don't have much support for internal frameworks
abstract wagon
bb?
vivid lintel
bloomberg
like 70% of teams use c++, and the remainder is a medley of python, go, and java
for backend work
brazen shale
lots of companies use haskell for some teams
name one
nimble flax
i want to apply for non-remote positions in my city but im worried about covid stuff :///
should i assume that all offices are remote by now prob not
vital pewter
Welp I got Amazon L after oa 3
thorn leaf
Welp I got Amazon L after oa 3 <:sadge:747169038911930418>
ah join the club 😦
vital pewter
Ayy
vivid lintel
so for big N i shouldnt choose FP over security
Just get good at whatever interests you, that'll maximize likelihood of getting a good job
icy juniper
got my amazon final coming up, any advice from people who have taken it? Don't know what to expect in terms of questions or difficulty
abstract wagon
Just get good at whatever interests you, that'll maximize likelihood of getting ...
a lot of things interest me in CS tho
i dont have a lot of free time