2021_summer

[viral abyss]

chinese fang is alibaba tencent bytedance

their acronym should be BAT

bat soup kings

[warm crystal]

Lmaoo

Who owns baidu?

[lethal ore]

Are companies still doing interviews for summer internship positions?

I want to see if it is worth applying over break

[warm crystal]

Snowflake just sent me their OA so I'm assuming

[lethal ore]

Anyone heard back from Roku?

[warm crystal]

Nah

[lethal ore]

Or We Pay

[eternal monolith]

would you rather work at robinhood or stripe for full-time?

[stiff vessel]

personally robinhood

user facing

[flat vine]

stripe bc i dont know anything abt stonk

[edgy leaf]

stripe bro

[pale coyote]

How good is docusign

Just got an email saying I'm moving to next steps?

[stiff vessel]

actually stripe cause robinhood is just a pretty UI

doesn’t actually execute any trades

[narrow patrol]

me personally stripe, but this is mainly for location reason, and also that stripe seems like they have more interesting problems to solve

robinhood seems like a better place for UI/UX ppl tho

[vivid lintel]

Stripe has room for significantly broader impact imo, but both companies are good

[devout crypt]

robinhood wlb leaves a lot to be desired esp for backend engineers

[warped wind]

robinhood for LCOL locations

[devout crypt]

stripe culture + growth makes me prefer them

[devout crypt]

stripe allows full remote

[warped wind]

it'd be cool to work in Denver

[warped wind]

for now

[devout crypt]

a big part of their strategy is that they want 5 future locations to all be HQs, with one of them being completely remote

they're pretty comitted to remote lol

https://stripe.com/blog/remote-hub

[ionic fog]

stripe because it has more potential for growth imo

[narrow patrol]

from what i can tell only non-technical roles are in denver for robinhood

also, stripe allows remote lmaoo

[warped wind]

well that sucks

mainly for me I like what Robinhood does more than stripe

[devout crypt]

nice backtrack haha

[dapper shard]

Stripe. Robinhood boring to me tbh

[lime eagle]

Hey guys when you want to reneg, do you reneg first and then sign the offer you want to take or vice versa?

[simple saffron]

sign first always

[dapper shard]

Always sign first

[simple saffron]

sign always first

[earnest musk]

first always sign

[abstract wagon]

firstways sign all

[shell horizon]

renege first always

[thick ridge]

every time I go to apply to palantir

I never actually finish

cuz u have to write stuff smh

[lethal ore]

What is the difference palantir and palantir path?

[simple saffron]

path is for those without prior swe experience

[lethal ore]

Like no internships

[simple saffron]

sure

[lime eagle]

got it thanks yall

[violet wyvern]

Does LinkedIn expedite their process if u have a deadline

[inland bloom]

"day trading crypto" lmao

bro we can night trade that shit too dw

[soft hound]

wut

hes a billionaire?

[sinful tinsel]

to throughly learn and study data structures you guys would recommend "Cracking the Coding Interview" book right? Then practice those concepts using leetcode right?

@somber thicket i feel like the book gives a broad and general overview of the concepts tho

is there any resources u wod recommend for learning these things?

[devout crypt]

Have you taken your university course yet?

[silk swallow]

I feel like that book is better for brushing up on DSA if you have already learned it in depth

[unreal anchor]

Try the mit courses

[sinful tinsel]

the one on ocw right?

[unreal anchor]

yea

or whichever the one on youtube is

[sinful tinsel]

alr ill check it out

@unreal anchor if im using a different language from the mit ocw's vids that shouldnt matter for learning right?

[unreal anchor]

language doesnt matter for the most part

just get the idea first

[sinful tinsel]

got it, ty!

[limber hazel]

just go like codeacademy -> CTCI/CLRS for DS/Algo -> leetcode for practice

oh yeah I think they have some decent stuff on basic DS

I prefer text over yt vids personally

[dapper shard]

Who has done OA 2 for twitch?

Also does anyone know their return offer rate?

[tight siren]

Hi everyone! Wanted to share a resource to be added to a Summer 2021 internship database that will be shared with companies for those interested in Business, Sales, Marketing, Finance, etc! Check out the link for more info + to fill out!
https://apply.freshprints.com/internship/?kid=1E238R

[fresh void]

Did anybody have any details related to Apollo GraphQL? I couldn’t find much information about things related to salary, if they provided housing, etc... through Glassdoor

[uneven totem]

anyone done the box hackerrank?

[fallow shuttle]

Majority of people get a return offer from what I was told

[split night]

they don't hire many interns, so its pretty high. that is what I was told

[sinful tinsel]

I thought it gives detailed learning for the concepts?

[severe jasper]

Nordstrom or JPMorgan?

[thick ridge]

I'm inclined to say jpmc but I don't know much about nordstrom

[abstract wagon]

nordstrom

[restive falcon]

Yup agree w this

[pallid spade]

nordstrom imo

[final hawk]

i think jpmc would probably have more interesting work compared to nordstrom since they use tech more heavily

nordstrom discount though 👀

[abstract wagon]

first step to getting rich is looking rich 🤤

[cobalt raven]

@severe jasper nordstorm actually open sources a lot of their stuff 😛 you should take a look

last year when i went to their talk they talked about it a lot

(also got a $100 gift card that i haven't used LOL)

https://github.com/Nordstrom

[abstract wagon]

yo $100 gift card?

[cobalt raven]

hell yeah

[abstract wagon]

which talk

count me in

[cobalt raven]

well actually tbh this dude got it and ik he doesnt shop

[simple saffron]

Was it from contributing

[cobalt raven]

so i bought it from him for $50

stonks

no it was a raffle

[abstract wagon]

.

[simple saffron]

And now ur not using it

[abstract wagon]

dang i thought they were rich rich... $100 for everyone

guess not

[cobalt raven]

i've been to nordstorm and made $100 purchases multiple times but i just forgot to bring the gift card LMAO

cuz i use apple pay for everything so i only have my phone

[abstract wagon]

what do you buy at nordstrom

dont they onlyhave like

[obtuse otter]

so this man is rich

[abstract wagon]

champion vineyard patagonia (?) and canada goose

[obtuse otter]

i walked into a nordstrom and they told me they dont let people like me in their store

[final hawk]

wayy more than that

nordstrom is huge

[cobalt raven]

nah lol they literally have like every brand

[final hawk]

buy food from their cafe 😄

the cafe is good i like their salad

[cobalt raven]

and usually i don't buy for myself but instead i buy gifts

[abstract wagon]

this is really sad

[final hawk]

why 😢

[abstract wagon]

when you get kicked out the store so you go to the cafe 😭

[final hawk]

you have to go through the store to get to the cafe though 👀

[abstract wagon]

ya "stay in the cafe area where you might be able to afford"

😭😭😭

what else do you buy at nordstrom though

i see brands like bonobos or something

and im thinking wow 100+ for a pair of jeans from a place i never heard of

not worth

maybe thats just me

[cobalt raven]

usually it's coats

for me at least

[abstract wagon]

oh shoutout topman though

forgot about them

you can buy coats for <100?

[cobalt raven]

you can't

[abstract wagon]

sad

[simple saffron]

Nordstrom goated

[sinful tinsel]

wuts wrong with dat?

[severe jasper]

Sounds like most people said Nordstrom

I’m not even into fashion like that

Lmao

[stiff vessel]

just go to rack >>>

[silver notch]

Crap I hate my stupid internet. It had to cut out during my coupang OA...

[cobalt raven]

@severe jasper i heard it's really interesting for the summer bc they have semi annual sale and they have to handle HELLA traffic

but i feel like jpmc might be better on resume lol cuz i see a lot of people who with jpmc internships that get a really good job afterwards but i can't say the same for nordstorm

also nordstorm cancelled their internship this summer due to covid and told ppl they hired to "reapply"

[silver notch]

Still waiting to hear back from jpmc

[marsh meadow]

tech workers arent first class citizens at clothing companies

thats the impression i got from talking to underarmour

[abstract wagon]

personally i just work wherever its harder to get into or has less people going there

its not always 1:1 but my impression is itll make you look more elite

[real nacelle]

nordstrom is just expensive store for every brand

also i would say 100% jpmc

[abstract wagon]

damn yall hating on nordstrom fr

[marsh meadow]

theres more technology work going on at banks

clothing u do logistics n sre or something idk

[thick ridge]

ya I would think its mostly sre

someone even said its about coordinating yearly sale cuz their site gets hella traffic

[real nacelle]

nothing against retail but it’s literally just retail clothing

[obtuse otter]

oh yeah when i interviewed it seemed like they mostly work on internal tools as well

nordstrom cool but the work probably boring asf

[severe jasper]

I’ve heard good things about Nordstrom’s engineering division

[dapper shard]

Brooo

[severe jasper]

I’ve noticed Nordstrom has better TC after graduation

[dapper shard]

Is ServiceNow OA auto?

[obtuse otter]

nah i got resume rejected

[cobalt raven]

what i think that's cool lol

[vivid lintel]

I mean bank can also be mad boring if you get unlucky with team matching

jpmc would probably look better on a resume than Nordstrom though

[dapper shard]

Jpmc actually looking better than another company on a resume? I can’t believe it

No slight to jpmc, just seems like a lot of other companies are better than it lol

I almost said take Nordstrom instead

[vivid lintel]

Lol well jpmc is a solid company, sure it'll look good on a resume compared to a lot of other companies

[abstract wagon]

i think nordstrom would look better

but idk

[vivid lintel]

Look better in what sense

[obtuse otter]

oh yeah being completely honest i think thats any company

on a resume jpmc vs nordstrom it probably depends on what u work on

[final hawk]

nah jpmc is a good company to have on a resume

[vivid lintel]

Jpmc conducts c4g and sponsors a bunch of hackathons, so at least there's some indication that they care about tech

[abstract wagon]

nordstrom got clout frfr

[vivid lintel]

Maybe normal people clout

But not tech clout lol

[thick ridge]

eh I think jpmc has more clout

nordstrom to me is just an overpriced clothing store

[obtuse otter]

recruiters tho

it's not like nordstrom technology is like idk wish

[abstract wagon]

i thought recruiters would see more clout in nordstrom

ton of people get into jpmc

cant say the same for nordstrom

just my thoughts though

cant go wrong with either

[obtuse otter]

i feel like nordstrom has a highish hiring bar considering they're a clothing store

[vivid lintel]

That's like saying thousands of people intern at Google but only 2 people interned at this no name tiny local company, therefore the local company must be more selective lol

[abstract wagon]

na its not 1:1

[dapper shard]

I mean if I made it into jpmc I feel like most people stand a good chance of getting into jpmc as well.

[abstract wagon]

i just think nordstrom in this case is >

[dapper shard]

Like if they get an interview or c4g

[abstract wagon]

its not the same as google vs a startup

i think the tech work ud do at jpmc and nordstrom cant be too different

and both are well established in their fields

[vivid lintel]

Just because a company's tech dept is smaller doesn't make it more selective

Nordstrom doesn't need as many swe interns

[abstract wagon]

it is more selective

[fallow shuttle]

I think I'd go jpmc here tbh

[abstract wagon]

damn astro

[fallow shuttle]

Sorry boba

[abstract wagon]

its ok its personal preference

[fallow shuttle]

But I don't think Nordstrom is wrong either

[loud hollow]

are you going to twitch astro 👀

[stiff vessel]

If you’re going for resume clout JPMC is a pretty clear choice here

[fallow shuttle]

Yeah but I need to renege other company lol

[abstract wagon]

make my subscribes matter 😭🤝

pokimane notice me

[odd kraken]

uber?

[fallow shuttle]

Nah I never signed uber

I signed mongodb in like October lol

[abstract wagon]

damn holy

stacked

[loud hollow]

[abstract wagon]

[loud hollow]

you chose mongodb over uber

[dapper shard]

Wait you’re doing twitch over mongoDB? Why?

[thick ridge]

bro i think twitch over mdb is no brainer

[abstract wagon]

^

[loud hollow]

Twitch is super pog

[fallow shuttle]

I didn't choose it over Uber, I chose twitch over uber

[dapper shard]

Eh for my personal preferences I would take mongoDB tbh

[loud hollow]

ohhh i c

[thick ridge]

nah tf

would u rather work for a gaming platform

or a crud database

[final hawk]

hmm i think if you like the nyc area mondogb is a good choice to go over twitch

[vivid lintel]

Wow reneging on mongodb, interesting

[odd kraken]

twitch has no office in texas or nyc which i think is v important for peepo

[final hawk]

but personally for the product itself i'd pick twitch cause gaming 👀

[dapper shard]

Bingo

And I like the work of mongoDB still too

[vivid lintel]

Lol do you know what crud is

[fallow shuttle]

Location isn't big for me tbh

[thick ridge]

yes lol

but it sounds funny

[fallow shuttle]

Plus I want somewhere warm lol

[abstract wagon]

twitch >

clear choice

twitch is relatable

i know astro wants to be the next joma tech

[vivid lintel]

MongoDB's strength is the ecosystem they've built around their database with stuff like atlas, stitch, mobile sync

[abstract wagon]

full time twitch streamer

[vivid lintel]

Not the database itself

[dapper shard]

If I didn’t care for location then yes I would definitely take twitch

So I could get twitch Merch 👀

[thick ridge]

do twitch interns get to go to twitch con free

[abstract wagon]

i hope so

[strange wraith]

if you take twitch you automatically become a pro gamer

[fallow shuttle]

Yeah mongodb is good don't get me wrong

[loud hollow]

Twitch gives intern jackets 😭

[dapper shard]

Twitch con is kind of yikes tbh

[fallow shuttle]

I just like twitch product more

[thick ridge]

intern jacket is enough for me

dont even need money

[loud hollow]

LOOOL

[abstract wagon]

fuck i mightve made s mistake

[dapper shard]

Twitch admin is some fucking Simps tho 😐

[loud hollow]

wait you also had twitch offer @abstract wagon ?

[abstract wagon]

im fucking simp

yeah while back

[vivid lintel]

Nah yea that's fair, just interesting that someone would be ok getting blacklisted from a solid company like mongo lol

[loud hollow]

whaaaaa

[abstract wagon]

i was just looking at TC so i went with a HFT

[dapper shard]

Unban forsen

[fallow shuttle]

Lol what can you do

Maybe they won't blacklist me

[loud hollow]

HFT?

[strange wraith]

I mean if you're a junior it probably doesnt matter

[dapper shard]

Hedge fund trading I think

[thick ridge]

can u say which 1 am curious

[strange wraith]

since you'd be looking to work for twitch over mongo full time

[strange wraith]

high frequency trading

[abstract wagon]

na sorry man

[buoyant ledge]

i wouldve taken mongo > twitch

[dapper shard]

Also what does servicenow do and where are they based?

Because I might do this OA

[strange wraith]

can u dm which one?

[strange wraith]

based in Cali

[thick ridge]

rentech confirmed

[odd kraken]

servicenow has office in CA and WA?

[strange wraith]

they're like a workflow kinda thing

[dapper shard]

Texas office at all or no? 🙃

[strange wraith]

i interviewed with them last year but honestly I didnt really get their product

[loud hollow]

Amazon or Zillow 👀

[strange wraith]

also they made me code on Vscode and share screen

so i yeeted outta there

[restive falcon]

boba at HRT (just my guess)

[dapper shard]

Depends on what you’re wanting. Resume clout or actual work ?

Zillow for actual work. Amazon for resume clout. For me at least

[restive falcon]

boba

u better not be at

you know wat company

🕵️‍♀️

[strange wraith]

boba is the manager of the medallion fund

[twilit mesa]

i agree

[still gazelle]

doesnt zillow have higher TC than amazon

[dapper shard]

🤷🏾

[strange wraith]

I think zillow tc is higher

[dapper shard]

I actually really like Zillow as a company. Too bad they hate me

[strange wraith]

unless its amazon bay area

[still gazelle]

zillow is higher for entry level

[twilit mesa]

zillow told me they'd reach out

but they didnt

pain.

[quartz dock]

zillow bad company .

[dapper shard]

Lyft told me that too

Ghosted after sending my availability for interview 🙃

Fuck Lyft.

Fuck Expedia too.

[twilit mesa]

why

someone tell airbnb to give me job 😠

[obsidian juniper]

Airbnb have no money

[dapper shard]

Someone tell ddog to give me a job

[twilit mesa]

pain.

didnt they get fucked by gs

[obsidian juniper]

Airbnb?

[twilit mesa]

ye

[obsidian juniper]

I mean

Gs did the listing

Maybe I didn’t see the story where they got fucked

[cobalt raven]

i thought it was morgan stanley

is it both

oh it is both

[twilit mesa]

i think its both

[coral geode]

One of my interviewers from last week just looked at my LinkedIn 😩

[twilit mesa]

no

link

[ionic bronze]

roblox number 2 tho

i'm surprised seattle pays more than LA

I thought they'd be more even tbh

[fallow shuttle]

More companies in Seattle than LA

[restive falcon]

i hate internship presentations

i finally did mine today

😭

feels gud guys

[abstract wagon]

y

[sinful tinsel]

he's also good for sorting algorithms as well right?

[final hawk]

understandable 😢 i did mine yesterday and it was not good

[sinful oar]

what happened? i’m sure you did great!

[final hawk]

nah i just didn't have enough time to go in depth so it's a little confusing to understand

since the topic is kind of complicated

i had to do something called monkey patching so i can modify a client's existing code to inject the datadog tracer code into it

it's kind of tough to explain how exactly monkey patching works

[twin obsidian]

🐵

[dapper shard]

lmao is goldman sachs still hiring?

my school just sent out an email to all CS students that "if you are truly ambitious, you can apply to goldman sachs summer analyst that 'just' opened!"

[lethal ore]

What is that? Sorry never done an internship so idk

Lol Goldman was like one of the first to open internships

[sinful oar]

they were hiring well into the spring this year, so it’s possible

[dapper shard]

thats why its funny to me. they might still be hiring but it is just funny to me that my school is just now even mentioning it

[sinful oar]

schools stay 3-4 months behind

[loud raft]

Check out this post! "Blew up $300k in options trading. (Software Engineering)"
https://us.teamblind.com/s/wiRdYNCQ

oof

[thick ridge]

bruh

are people on blind even real

[still gazelle]

top comment...

they encourage this shit..

[thick ridge]

lol i chuckled

[jagged mason]

I need someone Apple Recruiter emails if anyone can dm some please will really appreciate it.

[abstract wagon]

anyone know what comp is like at belvedere?

have final round but don’t really wanna do it if it doesn’t stack up

hybrid intern btw

[silver notch]

Cool, got a reinvite for Coupang oa

[dark junco]

There is a massive range of thoughts people have regarding WSB and it's just so hilarious

Some just love the memes, some take a small amount to play around with, and some can lose their life's savings

It's truly a casino

[zinc flower]

Just finished up my final interview(s) at apollo. Looks like it will be fully remote so no stipend and only monthly pay. Their intern class will only be 3 students as well

not sure about the actual amount but they say it will be competitive

[cobalt raven]

that's pretty sick

nice!

[abstract wagon]

the meme are fantastic and they are really pushing me on losing some money on a random startup

[dark junco]

I've made a lot off nio and pltr shares the past couple months, no weeklies for me but huge gains there

[abstract wagon]

sorry grandma my Christmas's gift will be transformed in shares

shoutout grandma

[pallid spade]

did yelp have an app this year

[worthy terrace]

I have my first ever technical interview in 20 minutes and I'm sooo nervous

any last minute tips?

[fresh wren]

kill that shit

[timber sky]

gl

[still gazelle]

let us know how u do

[fallow shuttle]

good luck!

[terse torrent]

gl!

[dark junco]

Most for sure, some actually lose a lot of their money

There was that dude who went from 500 to 1m on tsla calls

[small fossil]

You can only use this command in #2021_grad_process or #2021_intern_process

[dapper shard]

does anyone know ServiceNow interview process?

[fresh void]

Yep, same here. Good luck 🍀

[abstract wagon]

anyone else do OA2 this week for Amazon

I had a lc easy linked list and a lc medium string problem

[worthy terrace]

@fallow shuttle @timber sky thanks!!!

just finished up my interview with twitch. it was a LC hard. i got the right answer, but i hadn't looked at unordered_map in a while. they let me look up syntax and said it didnt matter but it still sucks that i had to. anyways, it was a good experience! they seemed very excited

i did ultimately get the problem correct, which is nice

but i doubt i'm gonna move ahead. it was fun anyway

[fresh wren]

@worthy terrace nice work

[fallow shuttle]

@worthy terrace what team were you interviewing for

[fresh wren]

@craggy relic if its a good unicorn (5bn+ eval), prob not worth reneging

[split night]

jeez LC hard which team?

[abstract wagon]

What's better than Databricks?

[worthy terrace]

@fallow shuttle I was interviewing with recommendations!

The ML team

@split night recommendations

[stone tiger]

lmfao i just got amazon oa 1 and i applied on august 6th

[worthy terrace]

Dude same lmfao

[torn dagger]

Same

[fallow shuttle]

nice, did you have previous ML exp?

[split night]

Leetcode Hard is rough... Best of luck. I didn't do that well on the initial phone! I was able to move to the next round and then get an offer. Have faith!

[slow gale]

Bruh I applied to Amazon in September with a referral and still haven't heard anything

Anyone know how much longer I can expect to hold onto hope of getting an OA?

[raven sequoia]

Early, Mid, Late September?

[slow gale]

mid

[raven sequoia]

I've read people who applied Early September getting OAs, but not mid or late September yet (or anything past that).

I heard people getting OAs early in the year of the internship. So be patient I guess.

[slow gale]

How long does Amazon's recruiting go on for

I feel like most FAANG companies are wrapping up yet Amazon still out here sending OA's

[dapper shard]

go talk to google about thier recruiting process and see how its going

[raven sequoia]

I heard people got interviews in March for Amazon last year. They seem to be hiring until the Summer.

[mortal edge]

I just got my first OA from Amazon and I applied at the end of October

[slow gale]

Yeah I finally got my Google rejection today lmao

After applying in Septemerb

[abstract wagon]

has anyone not gotten an interview after doing OA3 for amazon intern?

ping if response

[quick pawn]

i heard that the status on ur amazon application changes right before u get offer, does anyone know what it changes to? I just took the final and its "under review" rn

[wary flame]

usually a new application gets submitted for you for the location u are placed in and your current application has "moved to another job" status. that's usually the signal for an offer

[quick pawn]

thx

[shrewd karma]

Tiktok payin peanuts to solve LC Hards

[narrow patrol]

yea why is tiktok comp kinda eh

isnt it rly competitive?

[limber hazel]

tiktok pays a ton for fulltime

[pearl gyro]

What does $14/hr relocation mean

Does that mean tiktok pays $49/hr

[thick ridge]

prob means like 2250/month for housing

and the person broke it donw

or maybe not

[graceful adder]

oh dang i don't feel so bad failing tiktok OA anymore

XD

[limber hazel]

they pay like 190k+ for new grad FT

410+ for senior FT

[narrow patrol]

ok now im sad

rip

lol

[flat schooner]

would you guys renege salesforce for amazon? just trying to decide whether it's worth it doing an interview after 2 months without leetcode
and how is amazon newgrad compared to intern in terms of difficulty?

[dapper shard]

i would prefer salesforce to amazon

unless you want to go full time at amazon

but salesforce culture and product seems cooler to me. imo

[limber hazel]

salesforce is really good for new grad

but salesforce falls a lot after a couple promotions

yeah

for new grad salesforce is better

[flat schooner]

the only thing about amazon is it has nyc tech office

[limber hazel]

okay lets not get crazy

[narrow patrol]

@flat schooner i know you mentioned this before, salesforce would be better for rest and vest imo

lmao i knew you would say this

[dapper shard]

umm it would depend on what team i get on for amazon compared to c1

[narrow patrol]

yall are insane lol

[limber hazel]

C1 FT pay is not great

[narrow patrol]

cant even compare c1 to amazon

[flat schooner]

okay no amazon then

[limber hazel]

C1 FT is like 110k

amazon like 160k+

[narrow patrol]

amazon >>>>>> c1

[dapper shard]

if my team sucks at amazon

[flat schooner]

does anyone know how is amazon newgrad compared to intern in terms of difficulty?

[dapper shard]

i would've wished i went with c1

[dapper shard]

team dependent

but generally intern is a lot easier

[limber hazel]

pip sucks but its still probably overrated

[fallow shuttle]

I'd still take amzn

[flat schooner]

tbh I'd still take amz over c1
the name is good

[limber hazel]

amazon is still pretty good

[dapper shard]

i personally don't feel like busting my ass every day at work. i know other people have the sentiment of your are at a job to work but if i could rest and vest and make six figs then i would do that instead

besides i don't think i would be trying to optimize my resume after i get my ft job

i don't think it matters at that point

[abstract wagon]

I heard amazon name isn’t helping anyone because of how many people they hire

[fallow shuttle]

u plan to stay at same company forever?

[flat schooner]

I want to change jobs every few years but I'm on a visa
so I'll probably need to stick to my first company at least 5 years

[fallow shuttle]

I see myself leaving 1st job after like 4 years

[abstract wagon]

i want to have a goal to leave every year for first 5 years to negotiate offers and positions

and land at promising start up

[dapper shard]

if i cant get big N out of college i will probably stay at jpmc for 3-5 years. if i get big N though i will not be leaving any time soon

[fallow shuttle]

every year seems like a lot

[low epoch]

3 yrs tops peepo

Make it 2 bruh tx is your oyster

[abstract wagon]

nah I wanna leave apple after a year and maybe come back when I want to settle

[limber hazel]

ill probably try interview with f/g/unicorns every year until I end up at one

[fallow shuttle]

idk I'd leave for higher comp/position

[limber hazel]

then hopefully just leave for promos

[abstract wagon]

only company i’ll keep is a quant, but that’s a dream lol

[dapper shard]

SEP program leaves my salary capped. will have to leave after 3-5 when the salary increases after i leave their rotational program at jpmc

[low epoch]

Once ur ft i do get the impression its worth having specialized personal projects if u wanna get into a better paying role/company? Is ft experience all u need?

[abstract wagon]

3-5 years for a promotion seems like too long no?

at least for the first promotion

[fallow shuttle]

I dont think u rly need personal projects

[flat schooner]

Google NYC looks ugly compared to other Google offices

[abstract wagon]

google food is also average

[dapper shard]

ft experience is all that matters once we go ft

projects don't really mean shit

[low epoch]

Yeah i’m just imagining a scenario where i’m doing some boring java work or something for 2 yrs ft and then wanna move into something more exciting

[fallow shuttle]

damn everyone here wants to be in nyc so much it makes me want to be there lol

[limber hazel]

I love the west coast

[fallow shuttle]

yeah I also prefer west coast

[dapper shard]

first two years are jpmc are rotational. salary doesn't change. 3 year salary potentially goes up to 100k+ base. 4 and 5 would be optional for me on if i stay.

[narrow patrol]

i like my local area

i want remote

[sonic badger]

ngl id rather stay in mtl than nyc

[narrow patrol]

lol

[limber hazel]

the strat is to live in bay area, and every time you want a promo

[sonic badger]

[narrow patrol]

i want 150k remote new grad

[unreal anchor]

amazon interns and ft reading this chat

[abstract wagon]

nyc is literally goals till I get a family

[narrow patrol]

but it seems rare

[limber hazel]

just spam out apps to the 50+ unicorns that pay top of market

odds are youll get a couple

[sonic badger]

nah fuck nyc

[limber hazel]

and maybe a promo

[sonic badger]

most overrated shit

istg

[dapper shard]

i wish i was a few years behind tbh so i could be applying to the top companies since they are all moving to texas now

[abstract wagon]

i’ve had an internship for one. summer there

best 3 months of my life

[dapper shard]

hardly any of the companies i want are in texas

[abstract wagon]

so many different people to meet

and so much different food

[flat schooner]

nyc during covid is nicer than before given you don't get covid
much less crowded

[low epoch]

After 5 yrs or so working im for sure coming back to tx and staying here

[fallow shuttle]

tbh idc where I end up too much

[narrow patrol]

do remote dude

[fallow shuttle]

I'm open to anywhere

[narrow patrol]

coinbase/square/stripe/etc

[dapper shard]

imagine getting into stripe

[abstract wagon]

meeting new people is my main worry after leaving college

[sonic badger]

@abstract wagon purely subjective thing, i just dont like it

[narrow patrol]

ikr

couldn be me

[sonic badger]

Id much rather move to SF

[low epoch]

Agreed tbh part of reason i wanna stay in tx is i just know lots of people across the state

[fallow shuttle]

interesting

[narrow patrol]

incoming swe @ tinder

welcome to the club

[unreal anchor]

i love stripe

[dapper shard]

oh great. its the degenerate hours it looks like for cscareers

[thick ridge]

payment go brr

[low epoch]

Making friends is lowkey important people, if u move somewhere all alone and ur mad introverted its rough

[unreal anchor]

i wish stripe would love me

[sonic badger]

@abstract wagon the vibes bro

[thick ridge]

i feel like this is why I wanna be in ny instead of seattle or sf after graduating

[sonic badger]

ngl id prefer to stay in canada

[fallow shuttle]

that's every hour

[abstract wagon]

yup exactly

[sonic badger]

yall seem crazy af down there

ngl

[abstract wagon]

I wanna leave USA so bad

there’s a whole world out there

[narrow patrol]

wait why sorry

i missed the original commen

[low epoch]

For socializing i would imagine nyc > sf >>> seattle

[fallow shuttle]

If I stay in canada then I better be in vancouver

[narrow patrol]

oh making friends?

[ionic bronze]

i wanna swe @ phub tbh

[thick ridge]

easy to meet people, not super tech centric outside of work

[narrow patrol]

i just want to keep the friends i already have

is that toom uch to ask

[abstract wagon]

definitely

[sonic badger]

pornhub head office is in my city

[narrow patrol]

sadly we will be in diff places after graduation

most likekly

[ionic bronze]

[thick ridge]

yeah chances are you'll be in diff cities

[sonic badger]

its legit 5 mins from my crib too haha

[narrow patrol]

that sucks ngl

[low epoch]

everytime i think of sf tech bro culture i think i could only be socially happy a few yrs not long term

[narrow patrol]

for me friends is more important than tc

[low epoch]

Friends are the real tc

[formal finch]

move to cali not nyc

[thick ridge]

socal acceptable

no bay

[ionic bronze]

im legit scared of moving out of state cuz of this

[low epoch]

soCal dope

[ionic bronze]

all the people I've ever known are in Houston

[sonic badger]

ngl i wanna gtfo my city

new beginnings

[limber hazel]

socal is pretty awesome

[sonic badger]

[limber hazel]

cant go wrong there

[low epoch]

U can always come back to houston after a while @ionic bronze

[abstract wagon]

socal gets boring

but i’m biased

[narrow patrol]

everywhere gets boring

thats human nature

[sonic badger]

socal dope, until the whole fucking place is on fire

[ionic bronze]

still idek how i made friends before

[sonic badger]

[narrow patrol]

why

[low epoch]

New beginnings i understand if u from rural or small towns or suburbs but u city folks idk, i respect but not the same

[abstract wagon]

not if u meet new people everywhere

[thick ridge]

oh i dont

[abstract wagon]

like nyc

[narrow patrol]

thats not how that works lmao

[ionic bronze]

im bad at making irl friends tbh

[thick ridge]

i feel like it'd be dope to just live w my childhood friends

[low epoch]

This some real shit

[narrow patrol]

you all srsly havent lived in a city have u

u dont meet new ppl everday lool

[sonic badger]

wut

why

[thick ridge]

you can if u try tho

[narrow patrol]

ig

do u want to tho

[abstract wagon]

it’s lit how it works, every weekend I would find new people at clubs and stuff, true I might not keep in touch

[ionic bronze]

I feel like a lot of the time people are just going to ignore you lmao

[narrow patrol]

why wouldnt you just keep friends

lol

[abstract wagon]

but there’s so many people in this world

[sonic badger]

ngl wherever i move

[unreal anchor]

people in cali are friendly

[sonic badger]

im just gonna go with my dogs

and my girl

and hopefully make $$$

[abstract wagon]

keeping ur friends doesn’t mean u lose ur old ones lmao

[narrow patrol]

hmm this isnt the life i want

[sonic badger]

so thatd be lit

[narrow patrol]

i want real friends

not just a million people i know

and 5 new everyday

[ionic bronze]

same

[narrow patrol]

that doesnt sound fun to me

but to each their own

[abstract wagon]

what if ur real one hasn’t met u get

yet

[sonic badger]

ngl

[narrow patrol]

hm

[low epoch]

Losing friends is very easy, trust me

[sonic badger]

y'all are gonna get old

[ionic bronze]

gotta find "the one"
friend

[sonic badger]

and not talk to ur friends very often

in like 10 years anyways

may as well make some bank

[abstract wagon]

life is too short to stay comfortable

[low epoch]

But yeah if just talk to em at least once a year the friendships will stay

[abstract wagon]

and not explore what it has to offer

[sonic badger]

anyone ever do the illumio oa

[abstract wagon]

do u mean illumina?

[ionic bronze]

i always feel like you're high when u use that emote

[sonic badger]

no i mean illumio

[ionic bronze]

or about to talk about drugs

idk

[abstract wagon]

oh shit never heard of it lol

[sonic badger]

https://www.illumio.com/lp/try-illumio-core?gclid=CjwKCAiAoOz-BRBdEiwAyuvA68brlg_onLvtE_2hEcMTKR0sm5pAMZ3N44OkXvuBOfmn3mHw0L77tRoCboYQAvD_BwE

it actually seems cool

[abstract wagon]

yup

I don’t think imma ever stop moving

[unreal anchor]

i think we all will make friends in our respective locations

if we put in the efforts

[abstract wagon]

10 years max

[unreal anchor]

and are actually nice people

[ionic bronze]

im nice but im also shy

id do things that are considered rude on the outside but im just shy lmao

[sinful tinsel]

Just curious is the stuff u do in a typical swe intern easier than trying to get one?

[thick ridge]

i mean

thats an apples to oranges comparison

[sinful tinsel]

How so?

[worthy terrace]

No previous ML experience!

[dusty pier]

lmfao does twitter ask system design to interns??? https://twitter.com/TwitterU/status/1075136586344321025

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[thick ridge]

is system design uncommon?

i had one for the offer i accepted

maybe for interns actually

[fallow shuttle]

I'd say it's fairly uncommon for interns still

[dapper shard]

aren't you a sophomore

[fallow shuttle]

but looks like it's changing lol

[thick ridge]

yes

[dapper shard]

this ridiculous

[thick ridge]

yeah its so unnecessary lol

[fallow shuttle]

I've only had 1 company do system design at least

[dapper shard]

lowkey though i prefer system des to LC tho

[fallow shuttle]

honestly it wasn't that bad but not as easy to prep as lc

[thick ridge]

yup agree

they can ask a lot more random stuff

but I feel like its atleast a little more interactive

[dapper shard]

i feel like it is more relevant to swe work

[thick ridge]

yeah for sure

[simple saffron]

prob gauges how you think better than a random LC

[thick ridge]

that's true, but I think system level knowledge definitely varies a lot among interns

there are people who haven't made an API call yet that are likely at a huge disadvantage

but maybe thats the point

[simple saffron]

but I feel like those gaps in knowledge are easier to ignore in a systems question

i see what you mean tho

by easier to ignore i mean easier to take into account

[dapper shard]

well when it comes to sys des, i feel like it shows your thought process and how you would make a scale-able system that accomplishes the tasks, and asking clarifying questions and stuff shows more of what you are prioritizing in the development process based on certain criteria compared to a random LC medium question talking about counting some elements in an array or some shit.

[thick ridge]

agree 100%

like there's no memorization aspect in sys design

its mostly realtime thinking

[simple saffron]

until every company starts rolling them out and then a cracking the systems question comes out and leetsystems enters the game

[dapper shard]

if zillow asked me to design zillow i would've at least somewhat killed that interview. instead i got a dp question

[simple saffron]

i feel like this is every medium's cycle

[dapper shard]

you know what i think that would be better anyway

until they start leaving less room for error lmao

[simple saffron]

I think the interviews gonna be fucked regardless because desperate students will want to get an edge in any scenario

[dapper shard]

im just tired of the "just grind leetcode lul". i know its necessary for the current interview climate we have but also i want to truly improve my skills as an engineer. not being an LC whiz. but then i struggle with LC interviews so whatever ig.

[thick ridge]

yeah not much you can do

gotta just embrace it

lowkey LC been kinda fun lately

[dapper shard]

embrace the LC pain

[fallow shuttle]

lc isn't bad when you're not grinding for a job

[dapper shard]

yeah when you don't NEED to pass an interview it probably aint bad

[thick ridge]

yup

[unreal anchor]

it isnt. grinding lc for a job was stressful cause I kept thinking if I didnt do this certain number of problems ill fail

but when I was doing lc problems or coding puzzles randomly it was alot more fun

[inland bloom]

i think you losing it bro

[thick ridge]

its cuz I have no leads left

so im just doing it cuz i have nothing else to do

[dapper shard]

blinc 75 has been a pain to go through

[thick ridge]

gotta find a company to interview at for fun

[dapper shard]

it is so boring

lc is boring

[thick ridge]

I like doing DP questions without doing the recursive step first

some of them are so slick

[unreal anchor]

i like to think of it as a game

like when I do CP problems i always think of it as a puzzle/game to solve

[dapper shard]

i like to play video games

LC and CP problems are not video games

[thick ridge]

eh I'm not getting past gold in league so no point trying

might as well get my bread up

[unreal anchor]

i dont like playing games as much since I mald too much

[thick ridge]

lmfao

[unreal anchor]

yeah i usually get tilted after a ranked valorant game

bc my friends are heavy af to carry

[thick ridge]

feel that heavy

haven't played since the summer tho so maybe its time to hop back on

[unreal anchor]

I remember one of my friends losing the easiest rounds ever and I would just mute myself

[dapper shard]

i just turn on music and play overwatch and int because i have nothing better to do with my time

[thick ridge]

lmfao

[thick shore]

how many problems have u done?

[dapper shard]

up to 23. did two today

@thick shore

[thick shore]

i mean the whole reason to do projects is to get interviews

if u get interviews doing projects isnt gonna help u pass the interviews lol

duno why ur so resistant to doing leetcode

literally every1 does it

i feel like ive said the same thing to u 3 months ago

u could be jacked on leetcode by now lmao

[dapper shard]

yeah yeah i know. im fully away at this point. just tired of this interview shit is all. im gritting my teeth through it at this point

i could be. my mental health wasn't going though. recently finished my therapy sessions though and im doing much better now. so ive been trying to grind it out

[thick shore]

o ya

[fallow shuttle]

I think just try 1 question a day and see how it goes

[thick shore]

u legit dont need to interview for fall now lol

i think ur doing urself a disservice by interviewing for fall so early

[dapper shard]

fr?

[thick shore]

i mean if ur oging to do leetcode problems

yea

would u rather go into an interview with 20 done or 150 done lol

for the same internship term

[dapper shard]

true. i just don't want to be behind in the process since this stuff is on a rolling basis

but i guess in the grand scheme of things

[thick shore]

dude i was interviewing

for fall internships

in july

u will be fine

[dapper shard]

oh shit lol

[thick shore]

if u become a god at leetcode

all it takes is getting 1 interview anyways

[dapper shard]

ight yeah ill just wait then.

aye, you keep it real though dude

appreciate it

[dusty pier]

what was it like?

[split night]

Same @dapper shard I got my Fall offer in late August. Take your time

[thick ridge]

uh it was mostly designing api requests and like the database schema for a certain website functionality

[dusty pier]

oh thats not bad then

[thick shore]

l0l yea i see ppl on blind saying like

i did 400 leetcode problems but cant get 1 offer

[silk ridge]

thats exactly what mine was too

[fallow shuttle]

[thick shore]

mfer really be spamming 10 problems a day

and thinking theyre retaining any of it

[torn dagger]

yep thats what i was doing before

[abstract wagon]

im mfer

[torn dagger]

now im "learning"

[pale coyote]

followed by "I only applied to faang and HFTs"

[thick ridge]

yeah I'd hope that's the extent for interns.

[thick shore]

yh after u do it once theres just muscle memory

u can pick up fast after doing 20 problems

[fallow shuttle]

new pic throwing me off lol @thick shore

[abstract wagon]

who is that

[split night]

peep ?

[thick ridge]

lil peep has 1 good song sorry

[split night]

wut

[thick shore]

u trying to catch a ban

[thick ridge]

HAHA

[thick shore]

fr

[pale coyote]

lil peep is not good sorry bro

[abstract wagon]

i was guessing lil peep or lil skies whoops

[thick shore]

lmfao boba gonna catch a 🔨

[abstract wagon]

[thick shore]

dude

i keep listening to highest in the room now

because of some 15 year old tiktokers

lmfao

[thick ridge]

so sicko mode

[thick shore]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMJgxhonA/

people duet to this

but this slowed version slaps

[thick ridge]

how do people make tiktoks like that

watch it over

and be like "ya this is the one"

[thick shore]

LMAO

[abstract wagon]

this is trash bro

[thick shore]

the duets to it

are funny

[thick ridge]

yeye the duets are gold

[thick shore]

did tiktoks invent the term

duets

i think they did

[thick ridge]

isnt it also a piano term

[thick shore]

yea

[thick ridge]

like playing a duet

[thick shore]

in a musical term

but

on a social media level

"dueting to something"

[abstract wagon]

what does that mean wtf

[thick shore]

sec

[abstract wagon]

i hate tiktok

[fallow shuttle]

damn i'm so out of the loop

[thick ridge]

boba live under rock?

[thick shore]

https://www.tiktok.com/@lilnasx/video/6896492821373521158?lang=en

its where u react to a video

and record ur reaction

[fallow shuttle]

I downloaded tiktok and deleted it a few minutes later

[abstract wagon]

i hate modern people

millenials

[thick shore]

wtf

[pale coyote]

lol

[thick ridge]

lmao

[thick shore]

ok maybe the pic is bad

let me find a more distguinshable pic

[abstract wagon]

its Nas @fast dagger

[thick ridge]

I can get behind @pale coyote 's prof pic tho

[pale coyote]

whole lotta red 👀

[thick shore]

l0l

this used to be my github picture

when i interned

[fallow shuttle]

bruh

honestly that is terrifying

[abstract wagon]

nightmares

[thick ridge]

peep legit has the worst face tats outta all rappers

thats how we should rate them honestly

[abstract wagon]

what do you think of post malones tats

[fallow shuttle]

kinda bad but not the worst

[thick ridge]

i think theyre all horrible

but ya agree ^ not the worst

[abstract wagon]

LOL

why get face tats

when you look better without them

[thick shore]

.

its more of a

[pale coyote]

good interview subject lol

see: 21 savage

[thick shore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inocgEraxo0

[thick ridge]

gucci mane face tats

[thick shore]

he talks about it in the beginningg

he can never go back

[abstract wagon]

i dont listen to peep

[thick shore]

after face tat

gotta be successful

[abstract wagon]

so

if we get face tats

success??

[fallow shuttle]

yeah face tat will get you any job

[thick shore]

ok if u cant tell this is lil peep ur just slow

[thick ridge]

name 10 good lil peep songs

u cant

[thick shore]

?

come over when ur sober pt 2 was all bangers

[thick ridge]

joey search history: "lil peep songs recent album"

[thick shore]

this is my spotify listen thing

i aint a fake

[abstract wagon]

X 🙏

[thick ridge]

llj 🕊️

[thick shore]

X was my most listened to for the last 3 years

[fallow shuttle]

lorde 🙏

[thick shore]

i used to listen to x so much when i was depressed

[abstract wagon]

whats your favorite track

[thick shore]

duno

[fallow shuttle]

whats that one song

sad!!

[thick shore]

.

[thick ridge]

jocelyn flores was hella good when i was sad

[abstract wagon]

word that shits a banger

[thick shore]

so many S tier songs

[fallow shuttle]

changes I also like

[thick shore]

everybody dies in their nightmares

is up there

[thick ridge]

yup that one's hella underrated

2017 music was peak man

take me back

when humble used to play at parties

[abstract wagon]

the remedy for a broken heart

[thick shore]

i feel like that was a sequel

to everybody dies in their nightmares

same vibe

[abstract wagon]

maybe

whoa was good too

[thick shore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATayjnMV-24

this song is good

idk he was so versatile man

hard to pick one good song

[abstract wagon]

i mostly remember him for jocelyn flores though

i was down bad

[thick shore]

i would just listen to 17 in bed on loop

for hours

[thick ridge]

damn bruh

[dapper shard]

staring at the sky was my shit

[merry dirge]

Any advice for Salesforce final round?

My experience isn't in the same area as the team, and the recruiter said the manager will look for project fit

[thick ridge]

I've never gone thru sf process

but I'd just suit your experiences to the role

if team fit has a weight in final decision

[thick shore]

dam vercel just had a $40m round

[merry dirge]

@thick ridge thanks that makes sense

[thick ridge]

cuz they can probs

well established, ppl wanna work there

maybe not tho idk lmao

[stone tiger]

their new grad tc seems like its on par

[dusty pier]

how lol

[ionic fog]

because msft is in seattle not sf

$150k in Seattle > $150k in Bay Area

pretty sure that if someone got an offer for Microsoft in SF it'd be on par w/ other Bay Area bigN salaries

[thick shore]

i shuda kept interviewing with them

i was routed for bay area location

i wanna see those #s

looks decent

(relative to other big tech companies in sf)

[ionic fog]

holy outlier i wonder if this person's a contractor or something

[simple saffron]

poor guy

[torn dagger]

will alot of (smaller/local) companies start posting more intern roles in January?

[simple saffron]

yeah

[ionic fog]

hmm I assumed we were talking about new grad roles not mid level roles

though with msft their roles are more granular (new grad can fall under both 59, 60 iirc)

[warm crystal]

Yeah... everyone knows not to stay in Msft for too long

So, technically one can start at msft, learn and jump into E4 FB

It's like comparing apples and oranges

[ionic fog]

is it hard to get promoted at msft or something

[warm crystal]

Just slow progression in career

promotion gives you like 5% boost in TC

[ionic fog]

I've also heard that you shouldn't stay there for too long but

ah isn't that the same for all tech companies though?

[warm crystal]

Yes it is

[ionic fog]

I've heard it's better to just boomerang (leave then come back) if you're really looking for that TC increase

[warm crystal]

But msft pays lower for seniors

[warm crystal]

Yup

[limber hazel]

microsoft is great for new grad but most people try to jump around first promo

[warm crystal]

Yeah ^

[limber hazel]

salesforce is similar

[thorny gorge]

what’s the Microsoft process like for interns

i kinda want msft next year

[ionic bronze]

1 phone then 1 onsite

[simple saffron]

back2back onsite

[ionic bronze]

onsite is team specific

^^ this is my experience

[thorny gorge]

They fly you out?

[ionic bronze]

nah

remote

[thorny gorge]

oh I see I see

[ionic bronze]

idk if they did before covid

probably tbh

[thorny gorge]

I kinda like msft work life

grind now and be sad now

Be happy later

[ionic bronze]

do eet

[thorny gorge]

I for sure will

[ionic bronze]

u kys now for good money and wlb later

[thorny gorge]

Gonna study up this winter

[ionic bronze]

[thorny gorge]

does msft have returns offers for juniors?

[simple saffron]

yes