#2021_summer

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lunar burrow
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returning for winter only. akuna summer :p

icy juniper
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oh shitttttttttt AKUNA

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bro that's POGGG

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quant or c++ dev?

lunar burrow
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it's not pog. currently waiting to see if I can even get a fucking visa

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python dev

icy juniper
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nice, kinda wish i didn't bomb the last question on the OA

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man visa issues

lunar burrow
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which OA?

stiff vessel
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just swim down lake michigan

icy juniper
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quant dynamic

lunar burrow
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I've only done python and data infra

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ah

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quant is scary

icy juniper
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i never got the python dev oa

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but i'll be re applying for new grad

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hopefully time to brush up on my skills

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if you don't mind me asking do you go to loo?

lunar burrow
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nope

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yorku

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didn't even make uoft kek

icy juniper
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lmfao

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can relate

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i go to western

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but you still got akuna (hopefully you get the visa nervouspepe )

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so congrats man

dapper shard
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akuna python OA was interesting

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i didn't do it but i opened it and looked at it at least

lunar burrow
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it was fun!

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I spent like 45 min coding it

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then the rest of the time refactoring

icy juniper
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@lunar burrow for akuna was the phone/finals LC hards?

lunar burrow
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I say lc med because if you know your graph theory well, you can reason out the solution on the spot

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was not a hard problem tbh

icy juniper
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interesting šŸ“

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tyty

abstract wagon
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Did anyone receive assessment for tmobile intern?

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Software engineer intern

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what questions do fb like to ask? I've heard its two meds, can you get hards? Also what are the main topics to prep, dp trees or? Got phone interview inna month

fading wolf
abstract wagon
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What were the other two questions on?

fading wolf
abstract wagon
twilit mesa
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yea i lowk got roasted for not knowing it

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but it wasn't even a common dp hard 😭

abstract wagon
abstract wagon
twilit mesa
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haah kinda they were just like

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"you don't know greedy algorithms?"

fading wolf
abstract wagon
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@abstract wagon mind if i pm?
@twilit mesa sure pm me

cloud grove
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Do y’all think the latest lawsuit against Facebook will affect their internship program?

vivid lintel
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prob not right

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I mean a lawsuit like this will take a while to affect anything

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google was sued in october and I haven't heard anything about that since then

dapper shard
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ive always understood it as you get that amount worth of stock in the company

vivid lintel
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it could be either or, depends on the company

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some give shares and some give options

karmic fog
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most SV companies give shares

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startups often give options still

viral fable
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do you guys know any undergrad who has gotten a robinhood offer

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why it feel like they only want to hire masters

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even tho it says open to BS too :"(

last glade
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might be because masters tend to have more field experience than knowledge than undergrads

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is it open to both undergrads and higher education?

viral fable
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ya

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ig their hiring bar is just that high

dapper shard
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does anyone know if qualtrics does off season?

abstract wagon
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robinhood needs to have a high hiring bar to figure out how not to crash for an entire day

humble saddle
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the karat interview was so hard 😦

thick ridge
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oh yikes my karat is in a week

humble saddle
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have you taken 391

thick ridge
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next sem lol

humble saddle
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whelp

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good luck lol

thick ridge
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taking 391, 313, 421

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let's hope it aint as bad as it seems

humble saddle
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my karat dude asked a lot of OS and networking

thick ridge
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wait pause

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its not just LC?

humble saddle
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mine asked a lot of those then LC medium

thick ridge
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OS like what lol

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threading?

humble saddle
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ya, scheduling, processes, some security, db stuff, etc.

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like 20 conceptual questions

thick ridge
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oh im fucked im finna cancel it

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it's not even for backend

humble saddle
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oh nvm then

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mine was backend

thick ridge
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nah it's the same karat probs

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but the role isn't worthwhile applying for

lunar burrow
thick ridge
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im miniscule brain

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u overestimate me

main jetty
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hi

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how would i ask my intern manager about tech stack and project ill be working on

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i dont wanna sound nosy : /

abstract wagon
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just ask politely

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shows initiative and im sure theyre willing to share

main jetty
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okie

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: )

abstract wagon
dapper shard
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@thick ridge idk you seem pretty chad for a soph

main jetty
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he is chad

abstract wagon
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anyone got tips on reducing nervousness before an inerview?

marsh meadow
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If it's an interview I care about it's sorta hard to reduce my nervousness, so I just accept it, calm my brain and do breathing exercises to control the physical symptoms which help control the mental symptoms

marsh meadow
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I think interviewing after you get an offer helps your future nerves because you become familiar with the experience of not caring about the result anymore. Then when the result matters again in the future, you already have all the synapses formed which I think partly helped me not get super nervous anymore

abstract wagon
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Its just harder coz i get anxious when im nervous and those combined just make me feel ā€œiffyā€ if u know what im sayin...

thick ridge
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dry ass inbox this entire week PepeHands

karmic fog
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as if the stakes were way higher

thick ridge
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have u done the first one

sinful oar
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Does anyone know what the interview process for NASA is like?

thick ridge
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bruh

sinful oar
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That’s what I heard, but I wasn’t sure if there’s a recruiter call or not

thick ridge
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nasa out here blessing people

severe jasper
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PayPal or Nordstrom

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For an internship

loud hollow
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Paypal

abstract wagon
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paypal

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actually no, nordstrom

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20% off the drip šŸ”„šŸ¤

thick ridge
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have any of ya'll actually shopped at nordstrom

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i feel like its hella expensive

abstract wagon
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yeah I do

sinful oar
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normstorm is boujee

loud hollow
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isnt nordstrom going bankrupt

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or am i crazy

final hawk
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nordstrom rack is a lot cheaper

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LOL

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cause that's where all the unsold nordstrom stuff goes for cheaper prices

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nordstrom rack has stuff from nordstrom that didn't sell so they sell it for cheaper prices

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also it's usually smaller than the normal nordstrom

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normal nordstrom has cafes sometimes too

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the cafes actually aren't that bad the food is p decent

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probably regular

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cause nordstrom rack says rack in the name

abstract wagon
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conspiracy but nordstrom rack quality is much lower

final hawk
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hmm probably since it's stuff that didn't sell at nordstrom

abstract wagon
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na its like

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u know kate spade and kate spade outlet?

final hawk
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yup

abstract wagon
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the quality is intentionally reduced

final hawk
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ohh you're saying it's intentional

abstract wagon
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ya i hope not tho

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i hate that companies do that

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rip ero sennin

sinful oar
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Microsoft action center updated to ā€˜interview scheduling’... what does that even mean

sinful tusk
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Can someone help me out with an serious and urgent problem?

lunar burrow
vivid lintel
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Instead of throwing them out entirely, they can still sell it for cheap

sinful oar
humble pendant
vivid lintel
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Ohh interesting

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I thought it was just b-grades lul

terse torrent
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after tren black disses them joma still promoted his video

final hawk
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i think joma genuinely realized what was happening was messed up

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techlead and stuff didn't though

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whoever that other dude was that doxxed tren black

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i forgot his name

narrow patrol
abstract wagon
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!salary Tmobile

small fossilBOT
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Unable to locate data on Tmobile

final hawk
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yea it wasn't joma

terse torrent
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yea

narrow patrol
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ripp still says routed to recruiter

terse torrent
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techlead was the one who deleted and wrote comments

final hawk
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and also doxxed tren

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youtuber drama seems like a pain in the butt

austere lake
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Holy shit unity just asked for references after final o.o

vivid lintel
ionic fog
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maybe

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unless you already interviewed

sinful oar
ionic fog
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lol rip

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🤷

sinful oar
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invite me to final already msft 🄺

final hawk
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probably

vivid lintel
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Yea I hate that guy lol

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Such a fake person

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Yea it's so sad, like how can someone stoop so low

sinful tusk
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So I filled out my background check info yesterday. And I wrote down my experience at a small business (parents own)
I said I worked from may 2017 to feb 2019
Today my dad got called and said I worked from April/may 2017 to feb/March 2019
And I got mark as discrepancy
What do I do now?

fleet cairn
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anyone ahve experience with rippling interview

minor berry
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has anyone done the PIMCO coding challenge?

tacit marsh
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Opendoor or capital one for resume impact?

dapper shard
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idk what opendoor is (maybe i live under a rock) so i would choose capital one since i just hear that name more often

thick shore
final hawk
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go to opendoor

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to open some doors (career wise)

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šŸ™‚

thick shore
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yikes lol

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i’m not surprised tho

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i read ur github bio

dapper shard
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what does opendoor do?

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are they tech?

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if so then yeah opendoor over capital one

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tech > fintech

timber solar
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Anyone got brain Corp OA?

thick ridge
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its good

shrewd karma
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C1 fintech PepeLaugh

mighty musk
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capital one is not fintech

stone gull
runic tinsel
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what's the best way to prep for google swe intern interviews?

ember night
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Opendoor

stiff vessel
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well lc hard is better

somber saddle
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Amazon final interview is usually an LC easy and then LC Med for most people right? 10-15 minutes LP and then 30-35 minutes coding?

thorny gorge
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poo poo

somber saddle
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just making sure

nova knoll
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For intern pretty sure most of time it’s just 1 coding question with some follow ups if they want

minor berry
stone gull
hasty pulsar
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does anyone on here

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know traefik?

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like the proxy

vivid lintel
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so I'd go to opendoor if you care about learning more

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but for resume impact I guess C1 is a better known name

marsh meadow
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aren't employees not allowed to instantly sell their stock at an ipo

quartz dock
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we can sell 15% of vested shares

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which isnt much for me

abstract wagon
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hey guys, i just got a really weird email from Microsoft, if anyone can help me decipher it?

narrow patrol
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opendoor >>>> c1 imo

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more tech culture, stronger learning opportunities, and likely more respected to those who know of it (other unicorns and probably most big ns)

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also it is IPOing soon so will get a lot of publicity nationwide

uncut herald
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Does snowflake resume screen after or before the OA

ionic fog
small fossilBOT
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You can only use this command in #2021_grad_process or #2021_intern_process

merry dirge
dapper shard
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i was simping for c1 before they rejected me šŸ™‚

odd kraken
vivid lintel
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if my linkedin stalking skills are any good, they've been working there for little over a year

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so it would make sense that 15% is not much

last glade
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beast

narrow patrol
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i never said c1 is bad

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its just not comparable at all to opendoor imo

low epoch
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not sure if this is common knowledge but attending info sessions apparently can "flag" your application at the time of application
increases odds, presumably

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even if you're not explicitly told about that boost, i'm sure it happens sometimes

crystal river
narrow patrol
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ig its rly more personal preference tho, i just feel like i would have more impact and learning opportunities at a smaller company like opendoor that is growing fast

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however, if you want a more structured intern program, cap one has a very large intern class and plenty of systems inp lace for sure

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also plenty of c1 alumni in big n

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but, personall,y, i feel opendoor might stand out more on a resume

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since cap one hires shit ton of interns

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and, opendoor has quite a useful product that is growing widely throughout US. the engineering teams there seem to have a lot of ex-big n and unicorn ppl as well

ionic fog
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rip

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that's pog o.o

quartz dock
vivid lintel
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I was right :dab:

odd kraken
quartz dock
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it was earlier

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now i think people are just not working

thick ridge
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rest and vest šŸ˜Ž

ionic fog
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how long is the lockup period @quartz dock

dark junco
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Today made a lot of millionaires over there

edgy leaf
quartz dock
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6

viral fable
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whoa FB recruiter can see how often you visit/what you do on the career portal O_o

soft ocean
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anyone know if amazon is still letting people move summer offers to winter?

last glade
abstract wagon
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Is google done for summer?

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When should i stop expecting interviews?

pine bay
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yeah its possible

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snap is full rn tho if ur wondering

odd kraken
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tf

last glade
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unfortunate

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they didnt even give me a chance 😢

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sike

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how are u snagging these peoples emails

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take advantage. drop a link and refer yourself from their computer

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:D

thick ridge
ionic bronze
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Idk about fall, i managed to change mine to the fall today

but idk if it's a limit for all of 2021 or for each semester

for snap^^

pine bay
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I think they're waiting for ppl to accept but it's p much full by now

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If ppl decline they'll continue seeking candidates

loud hollow
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🄲🄲🄲

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I just did my interview w them today

flat edge
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If I'm applying to places for summer rn, can I put what classes I'm gonna take in the winter on my resume?

hexed goblet
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Yeah I don't see a problem with it

coral geode
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anyone have some advice for goldman sachs final tomorrow?

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also how do you guys answer the question "why do you want to work in finance" lol

last glade
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Moolah

viral fable
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????

gray gulch
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Anyone applied to STEP Zurich o Munich?

abstract wagon
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Stupid chad question - if im interviewing with a company I really really want to work at, is it okay to tell my interviewer that I really want the job and would love to work at xyz? Or does that sound desperate/may play negatively towards my application?

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A lot of students and recruiters told me that showing excitement and enthusiasm for the company adds points to your profile but is it okay to flat out tell the interviewer that I really want the job and would love to work there? (Obviously I’ll form my sentence so it doesn’t SOUND desperate)

abstract wagon
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Okay, so sorta twist it a bit, something like ā€œthis role sounds like a good fit for my skillset and I’d love to be part of xyz company because...ā€

last glade
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Has anyone heard back from blizzard for any swe intern position

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Is it courtesy that some messages u on jumpstart?

abstract wagon
shell skiff
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not too active here anymore but i hope everyone who's still looking gets the bread soon :D

ionic rune
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Holy shit I finally got rejected from Cisco after 5 months of ghosting

heavy forum
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Imagine if they could cap the feeling of an new unread email from a talent acquisition team in your gmail

umbral heart
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it took EA a year to reject me šŸ˜”

uncut herald
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My amazon portal updated with interview date but I haven’t received an email. Will i receive an email soon with the details for the interview?

haughty torrent
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Amazon not accommodating switch from Summer to Winter internships 😦

haughty torrent
viral abyss
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is hr call for bloomberg interview a good sign or does everyone get it

wary flame
proper mountain
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got goldman final today and i dont feel like it at all :/

last glade
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Transfer it over to me 🤪

proper mountain
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take it bruh

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i didnt even study for it :/

cursive tangle
normal axle
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Does amzn take into consideration the OA when taking a decision? I literally left one question blank on OA2 but got a final round invite yesterday

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So just wondering if it even is worth a shot lol

lethal ore
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Anyone heard back from Comcast?

hexed goblet
sand frost
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but yea, i'd say it's worth it

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expected value is literally +inf

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unless you value 45min of your time that much .-.

torpid lance
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Is the Microsoft final just 1 interview then offer if you pass, or are there multiple. Email I got says you may have multiple interviews

sand frost
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i've heard it's 3?

torpid lance
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But idk if it's just a generic email for all interview stages

sand frost
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but that was for PM a while back

split night
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I had two back to back

torpid lance
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For SWE?

split night
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yes

torpid lance
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Were they both technical?

split night
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yes

torpid lance
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hmm

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Trying to decide whether I should schedule it for next week or push it until after January 6th

soft ocean
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@haughty torrent where did you hear amazon is not a accomodating summer to winter switch?

haughty torrent
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Emailed them yesterday and that's what they told me

soft ocean
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rip

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do you already have a summer offer

haughty torrent
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Yeah trying to try to either get Amazon or Activision for offseason

soft ocean
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nice

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whats ur summer job

haughty torrent
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oh haha i meant im trying to get one moved to offseason so i can do the other in the summer

soft ocean
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oh gotchya lol

earnest musk
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whats an email format for an update

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after a final

soft ocean
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do you another offer

earnest musk
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what

soft ocean
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its worth mentioning if you do

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like in the update email

thorny gorge
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do you have another offer *

soft ocean
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imo

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oh lol

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my bad

remote geyser
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Would you guys reccomend for or against putting relevant coursework on resume for big n/faang?

low epoch
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imo relevant coursework should be completed courses (not ongoing) and it should be minimalist-looking (unobtrusive) and no more than 2 lines

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when clearing space for a resume, such courses should be among the first thing to go however

lethal ore
low epoch
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It’s not really bad or anything but if u need the space yeah it’s good content to eliminate. I just think you’re reachin when u put ongoing stuff, like you havent completed it

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I dont think it makes or breaks a resume or impressions

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And i would be sure to be clear about which courses are ongoing. Not simply a catch-all ā€œrelevant courseworkā€

lethal ore
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Yea I agree with that

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I don’t want to be asked interview like questions about it and then I say I am still taking it

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Lol

nova knoll
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Another tech company moving into Austin this time Oracle

dapper shard
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i want to get into a good living situation in austin before it gets really expensive

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i was hyped about DFW area but people keep on saying people from there are bougie and im not about that 😦

coral geode
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I got a systems design in my Goldman final WazowskiStare

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How could the leetcode betray me like this

humble pendant
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nope - only if you accept an offer - then allllll the free goodies. But you had an on-site interview you probably would have gotten free stuff in normal circumstances or at least have been able to visit the company store.

hasty pulsar
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hey guys

coral geode
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Howdy

hasty pulsar
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does anyone know any good resources for places still open for internships

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other than LinkedIn, Indeed

coral geode
earnest musk
coral geode
hasty pulsar
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ok ty šŸ™‚

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hb Canadian focussed ones?

runic tinsel
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anyone faced this situation before?

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I applied to amazon back in september with a referral. then, I got an email to log in to my portal (this one wasn't the students portal for some reason) to complete and submit the application, which I did immediately. Then, yesterday I get an email from student programs that my SDE intern application is still incomplete. I can't even log into Amazon's student portal with my email.

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Heck I can't even use my email to sign up for a new account on the student portal

warm crystal
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Dallas is the place to be

tacit marsh
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just got tik tok phone but first round is 12/28 my offer deadline is 1/9 do yall think they will just be like okay, nevermind good luck or should i let them know

patent sluice
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You love the Dallas area? @warm crystal

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Wb compared to Austin and stuff

warm crystal
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Well... it depends on your religious and political stance. And most importantly, your bank balance!
I personally love Dallas area because all my friends are from there, and it's cheaper! And it's closer to a lot of non Texas cities.
However, if you're a city dweller, then Austin would suit you far more than DFW. DFW is HUUGE and it take 2 hours from end to end

last glade
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i personlly thinkg dfw dookie. i've been here for 7-8 years? austins more of a vibe like aerio said

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but its pref based. i tend to like more crowded/busy areas

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never seen dallas lively lol

warm crystal
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^^ I agree! Dallas isn't lively by any means... it's the combination of the small texas town vibe embedded into a city

dapper shard
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ah see im wanting that city vibe

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cliche young person living the city life

patent sluice
warm crystal
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Bruh I grew up in one of the most populous cities in the world. And I feel like I missed out on the real experiences of the country life.

dapper shard
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country life is boring asf

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nothing to fucking do

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ever

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except get drunk

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smoke

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or drive around

warm crystal
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I mean... but you're really close with friends and family

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I feel like my family was always busy doing something

dapper shard
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you know how fun it sounds to go out to a barn in the middle of nowhere and get drunk because there is nothing else to do WazowskiStare

warm crystal
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I'd consider < 150k pop countryside

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So, there's still a lot to do in "small towns"

dapper shard
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arkansas has smaller towns than that

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literally places in arkansas ive never heard of still because when you go somewhere you drive right through them

warm crystal
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Yeah lol... I'd never want to live in a town under 100k lol

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I'm currently in a town with 250k peeps, and it's perfect

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Cheap and nice

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Yeah to me

gentle cradle
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what if there's a bunch of neighboring cities

dapper shard
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i wish you people could visit arkansas and see what its like here šŸ™‚

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and realize why i want to leave šŸ™‚

warm crystal
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yeah lol I've been to arkansas

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It's pretty to visit, idk if I wanna live there

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My town in Texas literally has tumbleweeds lmaoo

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It's that country

dapper shard
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arkansas is pretty ill give it that

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"the natural state"

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northwest arkansas is the only nice place to live though

warm crystal
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Well that's a diff story, it's "bay area"
The area population is MUCH higher

dapper shard
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central arkansas is okay

warm crystal
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My town is 4 hours away from the nearest city

warm crystal
dapper shard
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i mean you have little rock which honestly you want to stay away from that place because its dangerous asf

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bryant area is growing a lot

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but bentonville and fayetteville are the only nice places. Rogers is okay

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besides that, northeast arkansas is just poverty tbh. and then southern arkansas doesn't exist. might as well consider that Louisiana

warm crystal
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I heard little rock is a really nice town

dapper shard
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little rock used to be one of the most dangerous cities in the US

warm crystal
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My friend's mom kept suggesting that I move there lmao

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Maybe she wants me dead

dapper shard
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if you live in the nice places there then it can be nice

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like if you stay out of southwest, west, and north little rock you would be okay

warm crystal
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Are there any tech companies hq'd there?

dapper shard
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lmao no

warm crystal
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F

dapper shard
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i mean you have walmart in bentonville

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but they don't even hire arkansas college CS students because most are just really bad. they hire all out of state

warm crystal
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Ahh makes sense

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But the COL is prolly very low compared to TC

dapper shard
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i think new grads get paid around 80-85k which in arkansas thats really good

warm crystal
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TC? or just base?

dapper shard
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considering acxiom which is our college-company pipeline only pays 55k out of college

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TC i think

warm crystal
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ohh... but I assume you'd live good in under 20k right?

dapper shard
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eh yeah something like that

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living in arkansas is very cheap compared to other places

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to me this place just isn't that nice to live. maybe retire. its nice and quiet here at least

warm crystal
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Yeah fair! That makes sense

dapper shard
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just not the place for a person trying to experience life in their 20s

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my friend who grinded recruiting season for his first time ever just got an offer to IBM for cybersecurity red teaming šŸ‘€

astral folio
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what does it mean

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when during my behavioral final round today

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my interviewer said at one point "of course id have to review the feedback(from previous interviews) but i'd love to have you join"

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but then like later on after the allotted he asks some deeper and more personal career questions he says based on my responses "yeah you'd probably like a smaller team(theyre a big company)"

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"you should consider that in your career as a whole"

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im so mad i shouldve ended on a good note

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he went like 30 mins over too so i think he at least enjoyed talking to me

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but he wouldnt make a decision like that would he

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he alr said he thought id be a great fit for them in terms of skills and the actual position but he wouldnt reject me because he thinks i wouldnt like working there would he

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i also did p well on both technicals before that but idk

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it sounded like he wanted to reject me for my sake towards the end LOL

nova knoll
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It’s not his job to reject accept on the spot

abstract wagon
#

I finished my final interview with zillow today. I messed up a little in one round. HR immediately mailed me to schedule a meeting on monday. Do they call to give a reject?

astral folio
#

i thought i did p well thats why besides the ending part that sounds sus

nova knoll
#

Yeah u will be fine just gotta wait and see

astral folio
#

fuck hopefully

prisma basin
#

has anyone applied to Amazon Future Leaders?

#

i got final interview without OA???

#

honestly so confused 😭

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OHH thank you! @tame ridge

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do they use the same coding questions as regular amazon internship?

#

not sure what to expect for the interview

vivid lintel
merry dirge
#

Out of Shape Security, NGINX and Big-IP, which team/product would be best to work on?

thick ridge
#

has anyone here heard from zoox

abstract wagon
tardy minnow
#

anyone here do the HireVue for JP Morgan ABP Fellowship?

soft ocean
#

for people who did amazon interview, how long did it take after filling out the survey w interview times to hear back about your final date

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havent gotten an email yet

cunning fossil
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4 days until i got the email

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was in my portal tho after 2 days i think maybe 3

astral folio
#

o well i did alright ig

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whatever happens happens

still gazelle
#

how would yall compare hackkerank mediums to leetcode mediums

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or hackerrank difficulty in general vs leetcodes

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i heard a lot of OAs were on hackerrank so im getting used to the style of question

thick shore
#

companies impoirt their own questions

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often from leetcode

still gazelle
#

oh shit

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yeah for sure

gray quarry
#

are there channels for class of 2021, 2022, etc.

agile saffron
#

hey anyone take googles Oa? also what is the process like

lethal ore
#

Did you get that recruiter review?

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It is basically another step in the interview process

#

So you may move on or not

obtuse otter
lethal ore
#

You were asked to fill out some forms right?

lethal ore
#

Yea that is recruiter review

#

So you may or may not hear back after it

icy juniper
#

wtf

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sig just sent me a pack of playing cards

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do they send it to everyone who applies??

north patrol
#

i'm torn between bloomberg and imc trading (london/ams), any thoughts on which one is a bigger cv flex?

ionic fog
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IMC Trading

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not even close imo

stiff vessel
#

Your IMC offer is in London?

viral fable
#

doesn’t bloomberg pay low? my friend is getting $22/hr no housing support in NJ

north patrol
north patrol
stiff vessel
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for resume flex IMC is a no brainer

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Actually it can depend on what you’re targeting

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But in most cases IMC is better

north patrol
#

thats good to hear, just haven't much about imc prior to applying

#

the reason i'm even considering bloomberg is cause i think i'd prefer to work full time at bloomberg rather than trading, mostly cause of wlb

stiff vessel
#

Their hiring bar is def competitive with unicorns which are all >> Bloomberg

north patrol
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but trading seems like a fun place for a short internship

stiff vessel
#

IMC doesn’t have bad wlb iirc

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but Bloomberg you can prob get away with 25hr weeks

north patrol
#

yeah from what i've read its come to the morning meetings and leave whenever you're done

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i think imc's brand might be a bit stronger in the us than it is in europe, could be cause they don't have a london office

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also the chicago + nyc offices are probably larger than ams

vivid lintel
vivid lintel
#

so if you want the resume clout then IMC makes more sense

unreal anchor
#

someone teach me how to get into trading firm PepeHands

vivid lintel
#

Step 1) Be good
Step 2) ???
Step 3) Get offer

thick ridge
#

if only

vivid lintel
#

there's not much of a secret to it lol

#

just gotta be ultra smart or hardworking

#

or have some niche skill which is highly sought after

vivid lintel
#

Yea that's not the same as SWE

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SWE interns should be getting paid at least 40/hr (USD) with housing provided

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Global data is literally not swe lol

#

Idk what exactly they do but I remember that global data interns aren't invited to the same events as swe interns

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Some of the same events*

ember stream
uneven totem
#

Anyone hear back from Dell?

abstract wagon
#

plus amsterdam is super cool

north patrol
#

how does imc softeng reputation compare to some other trading firms (citadel/ts/js)?

vivid lintel
#

Yea cap lol

#

People interview, get the same standard offer, and then decide which office they wanna join

#

So NY and NJ pay should be same (excluding negotiation)

jagged mason
#

Is netflix doing intenrships this season?

#

I see them hiring a bunch of University Recruiters

thick shore
#

ya

thick ridge
#

isn't their new-grad hirign bar super high

#

curious to see how the intern bar will be

thick shore
#

netflix doesn’t hire new grad ppl

thick ridge
#

oh? is it just like research ms/phd students

thick shore
#

i see internships for those

thick ridge
#

oh so its directly swe?

#

or like what level do people get jobs at netflix lol

#

there has to be some entry-level position

thick shore
#

there isn’t

#

just seniors

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and managers

thick ridge
#

oh what the

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til

jagged mason
#

I think they are changing that

abstract wagon
#

have you done the OA?

dapper shard
#

how does netflix not have any full stack positions for intern 😦

brave obsidian
thick ridge
#

bfs/dfs

#

tree

dapper shard
#

cloud security is huge but not really developing anything which is kind of boring

patent sluice
#

tree and graph

#

leetcode blind 75 mainly

abstract wagon
brave obsidian
abstract wagon
#

i think they have just gave an automatic hr to everyone for a role

brave obsidian
#

idk, it's my first time receiving one after 2 prior years of ghosting craughing

abstract wagon
#

oh shit

#

too many people have received it, it must be automatic lol

#

šŸ˜” not me at least

#

it's for a UK role

#

ah ok

#

Advice for Amazon OA2 / Amazon final interview? (USA)

#

Is there a trend of questions Amazon seems to be following, like mainly strings, arrays, DP, graphs?

#

nope

#

F

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hella luck based

#

just most freq leetcode question

#

sounds good

#

blind 75

obtuse otter
#

has anyone actually benefited from moving their grad date up

#

like next year i highkey might just say im graduating 2023 to get more opportunities

mossy rain
#

I think most people do it so they can start working sooner

small fossilBOT
#

You can only use this command in #2021_grad_process or #2021_intern_process

cedar sentinel
#

yes

#

phone interview was 1 lc med, final was api design/implementation

abstract wagon
#

has anyone here interviewed with Bloomberg phone screen? what was the level of the questions? (difficulty/type)

cedar sentinel
#

phone interview was 1 lc harder easy and 1 OOP/class design question

#

the OOP question was about subway stations and how to track sign ins / outs and stuff like that

abstract wagon
#

okay, huh they reuse questions then coz a lot of these questions are on LC

cedar sentinel
#

oh just found it lmao

#

this was the OOP/class design question they asked me

abstract wagon
#

yeah I solved this like an hour ago

#

damn that's actually interesting

cedar sentinel
#

my apple phone and final round was for apple's "software engineering internship", internal tools team, cupertino, CA

#

no, reject after final

#

for me I got schedule interview email from recruiter after 2 days

#

who knows

#

yea

abstract wagon
#

I really hope so, that's what i wanna eventually transition to

#

if u don't mind me asking, did u land an offer at a quant?

karmic fog
#

usually u can't really trade

#

u can invest passively

#

with 10% ROI in ETFs and a good salary you won't really care lol

#

some firms let you invest money with them too

dapper shard
#

Has anyone interviewed with mongoDB here?

abstract wagon
#

lmao I wish I was that big brain

#

damn I wish I got JS, I got to their phone screen but after that it was a hard reject

#

UMD, some finance experience, JPM, this one database management company in the UK (also finance)

#

JP Morgan

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University of Maryland - College Park

#

yeah they took me in for the phone screen

#

but the questions they asked kinda fucked me lol, this was back in october tho so I wasn't even prepared

#

Junior

#

Lmaooo yeah UMD comp sci's actually pretty good

#

they asked me a few theory qs

dapper shard
#

Bruh lmao

abstract wagon
#

like concurrency, some design logic and stuff....

#

yeah the Quants really care about their interns knowing concurrency

#

lmao yeah im getting grilled in one of my algo classes

#

I think I'd be fine in terms of cluture

#

but i just need big brain

#

gonna retry next year

#

I think it depends from company to company

#

yeah I'm tryna get away from standard SWE tbh... plus I really like finance + stats

#

makes quant a good fit for me... plus I actually find the quants work super interesting

#

I actually gave the MSFT interview

#

phone screen lol

#

hard reject... I was on 2 hrs of sleep

#

and blanked out

#

lmao I honestly couldn't believe I fucked up the easiest question they could ask

#

yeah

#

they asked depth of binary tree lmaooooo

#

i got recurssive

#

but then she asked iterative

#

and I completely spaced out

#

I forgot BFS exists

brave obsidian
#

I have a virtual onsite with D.E. shaw coming up in January craughing time to (maybe) get rekt

abstract wagon
#

they rejected my application lol

#

thats faccs

abstract wagon
#

they're pretty much JS but I think kinda bigger

brave obsidian
#

interviewer got stuck on a project I worked on years ago, was embedded systems related

abstract wagon
#

lmaooo i got reject in 2 weeks

brave obsidian
#

JS resume rejected me this year, but last year I got their OA

abstract wagon
#

yeah its weird

#

i got JS phone

#

but got rejected DE

brave obsidian
#

Don't apply in November lmao

abstract wagon
#

and u got DE onsite

#

but rejected JS

#

ah shit

#

ok yeah that's kinda late lol

brave obsidian
#

yeah, exactly the other way around

abstract wagon
#

quants start in like june or july from what I know

brave obsidian
#

I know lol

#

Kinda rekt myself with that

abstract wagon
#

the only quant lead I have rn is 2S... touchwood I hope that went well

brave obsidian
#

GL with 2S, hope you get it!

abstract wagon
#

gave their Phone Screen friday lol... I really do hope it works

#

its the only quant lead i have

brave obsidian
#

Yeah, same for me. I just want to see how it goes, taking notes for later (assuming I get rekt lol)

abstract wagon
brave obsidian
abstract wagon
#

I actually saw a bunch of videos and posts on quant interviews, they tend to focus on concurrency and systems design

#

if u got the interview, obv they loved ur previous stuff... must be big brain work, kinda wish I took some time to do that

brave obsidian
abstract wagon
#

and that's what they want lol, quant work's a lot of research... if you're good at it they'd be lucky to have u on their team

brave obsidian
#

would be a great opportunity for sure

abstract wagon
#

either way, lesson learned.... sleep properly the day before an interview!!

brave obsidian
#

DE Shaw

abstract wagon
#

for JS, I'd say show some interest in Finance, maybe mix in a bit of trading (maybe a project on quant/trading/crypto?)... I guess a little bit of sys design and you should at least land the interview.... but again with Quants its sort of a hit or miss

#

they're pretty selective

#

doesn't hurt to have a referral

brave obsidian
#

I maintain a longer resume for research work and projects, which I sent to desco. One piece of advice I can give is to apply early. Another thing I can add to this is that it may depend on the role you're applying for, but for software they seemed to like that I had previous experience in systems/infra related stuff.

karmic fog
karmic fog
low epoch
#

js (and prob most hft) is picky about top schools but no name school can and does get in.
Many swe’s after a bit of experience get in as well

#

Yes, i have no real figures one way or the other but if u said only 5% of those getting in are non-top school i would agree

karmic fog
#

good school, good GPA and previous internship at prestigious company is a good formula. no need to show interest in finance

karmic fog
brave obsidian
low epoch
#

Js in particular has many undergrad programs as well that are viable to enter and demonstrate interest -> higher chance getting in, check their website

karmic fog
#

ahh I see, their UK recruiting for SWE is pretty different apparently

karmic fog
low epoch
#

Yeah i would only assume the diversity initiatives will improve, even with the most conservative/ā€œelitistā€ companies. By diversity, i dont mean just your cultural background but also school, etc
You gotta be exceptional either way

karmic fog
#

what companies?

#

FAANGMULA probably (minus microsoft)

low epoch
#

Unicorns count as well

karmic fog
#

(my friend with a really strong resume interned at Microsoft with a good GPA at Georgia Tech and they didn't interview him initially)

karmic fog
low epoch
#

I guess what i’m trying to get at is hft/quant is the top grade of selectivity but even THAT tier is viable if u have more reasonable standards i.e. -> get some solid experience as a ft swe then apply there

#

But if we’re gonna talk new grad then yeah you’re aiming for the moon

karmic fog
#

yeah I think it's a little easier as experienced engineer to land an interview but some firms only/mostly hire new grads

#

yeah

#

I think so too

low epoch
#

The one person i met who broke the aforementioned pattern was fella who went to mid tier state school, 2 years at a unicorn, applied to js, said they did lc practice about 6 months

#

They got in

#

Very smart fella

#

URM so make it of what u will

#

Get into js

#

Get into unicorn

#

Crazy how this discord is top tier of cs and even the sum knowledge of this group has an inkling of know-how on how to consistently get past screen

brave obsidian
#

because it's all rng

low epoch
#

Yep

terse torrent
#

It's also nice how discord isn't toxic

#

I need more experience

lethal ore
#

It is hard to get into any tech company without experience šŸ˜”

brave obsidian
#

you could get resume rejected at one company and then get an interview at a similar tiered one with the same resume craughing

spice mango
lethal ore
#

How people get into js insight?

#

Is it like only people from top schools

#

Like Uber star

low epoch
#

Yes and that, my friends, is the real curse of being young/naive/URM. Ignorance

terse torrent
#

I applied and got rejected from all of them

ionic fog
#

hot take: freshman year was really just me trying to make friends and fit in being >2000 miles away from home

terse torrent
ionic fog
#

the last thing I was thinking about was recruiting the fall of my freshman year lol

spice mango
#

I didnt know freshman did internships when I was a freshman

low epoch
#

Yeah ofc because 90% of college majors thats what u do first 2 years, chill hard

spice mango
#

I was just trying to make friends lol

terse torrent
#

Freshman yr covid came during internship

#

What

ionic fog
#

it's crazy though it's like perpetuating hustle culture and incentivizing the grind earlier and earlier

#

soon we'll have to start applying to really selective firm internships our junior year of hs

low epoch
#

Believe me bub i was proactive and hungry but i just had no real clue or peers to push me. Where to direct energy? Where to look? r/cscq was closest i came but that’s faang or bust

ionic fog
#

in order to stand a chance

low epoch
#

this discord is lowkey goated

#

scratch that, highkey

spice mango
#

Yea this discord is great

lethal ore
#

^

terse torrent
#

Process amazon offers

spice mango
#

But tbh more people getting info and being proactive will make it more competitive

terse torrent
#

The amt of those we have every wave

lethal ore
#

I probably wouldn’t have gotten an internship without this server

terse torrent
#

Is like op

#

@lethal ore o rly how so

low epoch
ionic fog
#

haha that's true

terse torrent
#

Senior eng is in demand covid or no covid

#

Soon we will be taking those roles

#

~ 5-10 yrs

#

Depending on where ur at

spice mango
#

Yea but there will also be more senior engineers them

#

When we become senior engineers

#

By how much, I have no idea

karmic fog
terse torrent
#

Maybe they will have transitioned into eng management who knows

low epoch
#

It’s fine, at least our profession is not so incompetent and politically motivated like physicians stifling the supply

karmic fog
#

v true

low epoch
#

90% of cs jobs are solidly mid tier and 90% of cs students will continue taking them

#

Future gen cs will be fine at least another 10 yrs hopefully

karmic fog
#

yeah but most still aren't competitive

brave obsidian
#

wut šŸ˜‚

karmic fog
#

I think LC might die out if it gets games too much

ionic fog
#

there are def a lot of companies that pay well and aren't considered "top companies" though

spice mango
#

The bar is increasing

ionic fog
#

ofc "pay well" is subjective--a $90k salary in Kansas is balling whereas in NYC not as much

low epoch
#

Dudes there are stories online all the time of the most mediocre of cs majors making six figures in 5 years doing the most mediocre of tasks

spice mango
#

In India they now ask competitive programming questions

karmic fog
#

nah it starts being a negative signal. then you only get people who prepped and all the people who would figure out mediums on their own now fail

ionic fog
spice mango
#

Its not unfathomable we end up there soon

karmic fog
#

it's starting to be

lethal ore
#

Honestly

ionic fog
#

or maybe i misread or smth

karmic fog
#

some LCs you can only know by memorizing rhem

spice mango
#

Yea when it becomes more competitive it becomes like india

karmic fog
#

akuna asked my friend the currency arbitrage question

#

you can't solve that efficiently without knowing the solution or at least knowing of the algorithms used

#

like if you've never learned that in algos you can't solve it

#

this

ionic fog
#

the problem w/ our field is that it doesn't have a license like real engineers so we have to keep proving ourselves over and over. couple that with the fact that many candidates are underqualified for roles yet apply anyway mean there has to be a quick way to filter out candidates

spice mango
#

Some interviewers do it the right way

ionic fog
#

introduce leetcode

spice mango
#

But many don't

karmic fog
#

it's not everything, though some companies bastardize it into that

spice mango
#

Some interviewers are trash

karmic fog
#

bad companies only care if u solve

brave obsidian
#

as long as LC saves them time, they'll keep doing it. What's worse, is that non-faang/unicorn companies have started to incorporate LC into their interviews now.

low epoch
#

rng rng rng rng rng

spice mango
karmic fog
#

people don't believe me when I say this but it's very true. I did not solve any questions optimally for half my interviews

spice mango
#

To say that 100% all interviewers at good companies do it the right way makes no sense

rocky tiger
karmic fog
ionic fog
spice mango
rocky tiger
#

nw a common misconception

karmic fog
#

like keras said that's not everything

spice mango
#

Yea and the interviewer kept pressing for something more optimal

umbral heart
#

rng dictates everything tbh

karmic fog
low epoch
#

Mediocre solutions with great verbalization of explanation is prob fantastic

umbral heart
#

not every interviewer follows that tho bean

brave obsidian
#

More often than not I've seen people say their interview went really well and then come back to report that they didn't pass vs people saying it went ok and moving on to the next round or getting an offer.

spice mango
#

Yea so you can't not be perfect and pass a lot of times

karmic fog
#

dude same

low epoch
#

Sometimes i truly truly do wonder...how many of us here just straight up have garbage soft skills LOL like even the most talented cs majors we may just suck at explaining and not know it

umbral heart
#

Not necessarily true, it's a interview case by case tho

karmic fog
#

I thought I wouldn't get invited back after lunch

#

at de shaw I literally did not solve anything optinally

#

citadel I used a shit load of hints

umbral heart
#

soft skills are hard to really get unless you worked a job before

karmic fog
#

yeah prob true

low epoch
#

We are quant hiring managers yes

karmic fog
#

hahaha

inland bloom
karmic fog
umbral heart
#

u need to be relatable tbh

karmic fog
#

esp if the other person is blunt

low epoch
#

I’m sorta with u there. I feel i can explain and converse well but my technicals are weak and some interviewers let it slide and i can tell some dont

umbral heart
#

i would rephrase that you cant solve it

karmic fog
#

I think it's a combination of soft skills, having an impressive resume and really showing ur experience through the way you talk

umbral heart
#

because in reality, you might just need to break it into components

low epoch
#

Whoever said jobs = soft skills. Yup

#

Customer service p much

spice mango
#

You say soft skills matter more

umbral heart
#

if you can get the optimal solution, that means you're actively hunting

spice mango
#

But many people ik at these places are socially incompetent

karmic fog
#

open source and personal projects

#

class projects

low epoch
#

Soft skills have no winning formula. There is no greedy algorithm to get them sadge

brave obsidian
#

I've always worked part-time in addition to uni, even did a stint as a freelancer

umbral heart
#

i personally think class projects are weak, but my uni class projects are weak tbh

low epoch
karmic fog
#

anecdotally I think JS is very selective on personality because everyone I meet there is v nice

umbral heart
#

all my personal projects gotten interest more than class projects

low epoch
#

I’ve seen too many successful ppl with relevant experience and no proj’s on resume that i have lost faith in proj lol

abstract wagon
#

is there a company for simps

karmic fog
#

I don't think you have to be super like talkative

umbral heart
#

well, those successful peeps removed projects

karmic fog
#

u can be awkward and stuff

umbral heart
#

because they got exp šŸ˜”

karmic fog
#

but if ur not v nice they prob don't like it

umbral heart
#

idk, there are peeps with egos who got hired

low epoch
spice mango
#

Yea lmao lots of people with egos get hired

brave obsidian
#

Yeah, I removed my projects once I had relevant experience and multiple internships. I moved my projects to a longer resume and add them only if they are relevant to a role I want to apply for.

spice mango
#

Look at blind

#

These people really are like that anonymously

narrow patrol
#

my soft skills > my lc skills sadge

umbral heart
low epoch
#

Like as i have added my mediocre projects i have realized i get WAY more mileage explaining them WELL than the proj actual merits

spice mango
#

Yea same

abstract wagon
#

soft skills arent that helpful for interviews as long as you're not trying to be a douche

spice mango
#

If you meet a lot of people at these companies like fb or amazon you'll see their soft skills are bad

abstract wagon
#

thats not all of industry lol

low epoch
umbral heart
#

i know a few peeps at amazon who have great social skills as well @spice mango

spice mango
#

Yea no doubt many do

#

But a lot don't as well

abstract wagon
#

a lot of people at amazon are douchebags man

#

and have 0 personality

low epoch
#

U can be an introvert gamer anime wallpaper having nerd and still have soft skills, dont mix em up

spice mango
#

Bosco

#

Lmao

#

Fb and amazon

karmic fog
#

maybe not actively but ur tone and stuff matters

#

the way you collaborate

#

how much u talk

brave obsidian
#

a lot of people everywhere are douchebags craughing

low epoch
abstract wagon
#

majority of the time personality isn't a huge factor

#

i definitely have an ego

spice mango
#

bosco, literally unpleasant as someone can be get into fb and amazon

abstract wagon
#

i still land tons of offers

spice mango
#

Yea lmao

low epoch
#

speaks more about fb then lol

#

their priorities

narrow patrol
#

is he that dude who used to hang out around here?

#

dont remember tbh

abstract wagon
#

i think hiring people based on culture is stupid

brave obsidian
#

I got into fb and amazon sadge craughing don't flame me

#

feelsbadman

low epoch
#

Pick 2

  1. Great pay
  2. Exciting product
  3. Great team
  4. Great wlb
#

I pick pay and wlb no cap

abstract wagon
#

even for intern you have to have the skills

spice mango
abstract wagon
#

interviews are like 95% technical skill 5% soft skills

narrow patrol
#

i wasnt rly active back then so i dont remember much lol

low epoch
abstract wagon
#

idk but they will lol

#

which faang level company

#

dont u need to lc for

#

and can get in with personality

#

lmk

karmic fog
narrow patrol
#

can confirm this never happens

karmic fog
#

HMs love to ask about my thoughts on rust

low epoch
#

U claimed its 95% tech skills and 5% soft im gonna say
85/15

narrow patrol
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i am the one who is fun to work with and grinded projects all summer

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instead of leetcode

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and i dont get picked by those companies

abstract wagon
narrow patrol
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well i meant faang

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i fucked my chance at amazon lol

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not salty, just pointing out that i didnt get in

brave obsidian
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I learned that culture fit is a big deal to some companies and matters little to others. For example, my amazon interviewers grilled me on their leadership principles but fb only asked me about my interests.

narrow patrol
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bc of my lack of LC skill

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yea just gotta pick up LC for the triple threat lol

low epoch
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The only culture i need is good wlb, call me simplistic

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Thats just me

abstract wagon
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i just need a place that isnt full of bullshitters

narrow patrol
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not amazon :/ can confirm

abstract wagon
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yo isnt this the same guy who said hs doesnt matter

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LOOOOOL

brave obsidian
abstract wagon
low epoch
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I would assume that for unicorns or when being interviewed by potential boss all these claims about importance of soft skills become more likely to be true

narrow patrol
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yup this is me lol

abstract wagon
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didnt u land gusto u simp @narrow patrol

narrow patrol
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but not bc of my LC skill

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just real world coding & behavioral skill, which i never said i dont have

karmic fog
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I wanted to do an experiment, post a job listing on linkedin and interview everyone

low epoch
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2 low tier internships >>> 5 beast projects

karmic fog
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to find out whether this is true

abstract wagon
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not going to argue this anymore

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yes work on your personality

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itll help u get into faang and unicorns for sure

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!!!!

narrow patrol
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i mean

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personality will help you in all of life tbh

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..

silk ridge
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we need a leetcode for personality pog

low epoch
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I’m stuck on the likable portion, anyone have tips

abstract wagon
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lol

karmic fog
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ya OAs suck tho cause there's no back and forth and they don't read ur code

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just a binary signal

narrow patrol
low epoch
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This is literally like being good at a fighting game. U have to level up execution skills (in this case lc) before even thinking of working on your psych/mindgame skills

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People who play fighting games will understand

narrow patrol
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you should but dont have to

abstract wagon
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are you a URM by any chance

narrow patrol
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i got decent offers w/o good LC skill, with only personality and good coding skill

abstract wagon
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im curious

narrow patrol
abstract wagon
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u

low epoch
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U have to reach x level to expect to beat people at x level consistently i’d assume

abstract wagon
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gg

karmic fog
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sometimes I get lucky with then but I got one that's impossible from one place

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2 LC hard in 45 mins or something

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nah

abstract wagon
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personality can pull through sometimes but majority of the time you need the LC skills

karmic fog
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it was IMC iirc

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some places actually are

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it's a dumb skill to select for

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imo

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rip

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but passed JS lmao

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trader diff ig

low epoch
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We need to compile list of company events, attending them are auto pass on resume screen

narrow patrol
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ochad is built completely different lol

brave obsidian
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IMC's OA at least for Amsterdam is just ugh. Just LC me, I hate those stupid numerical tests.

low epoch
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It sucks because if u apply too early before events u miss out

karmic fog
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lmao funny to call it specs

narrow patrol
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i dont know for sure but

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in my opinion, my unpaid internship opened a lot of doors for me

karmic fog
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I think brand-name matters nost

narrow patrol
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this szn

brave obsidian
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no

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why lol