#2021_summer | cscareers.dev | Page 1

spark jacinth Dec 7, 2020, 8:52 PM

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hopefully they reply to your email

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 8:52 PM

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yeah i didnt sad_kermit

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thanks

spark jacinth Dec 7, 2020, 8:53 PM

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spam/diff email?

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 8:53 PM

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doubt it but ill check

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yeah not there

spark jacinth Dec 7, 2020, 8:53 PM

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😦 what email did you reach out at?

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 8:53 PM

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the email they used to send us the zoom details

spark jacinth Dec 7, 2020, 8:54 PM

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which is that

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 8:54 PM

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yo what its gone for me too

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 8:54 PM

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uh like marie.something@twosigma.com

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YES

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 8:54 PM

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just checked

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 8:54 PM

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OK

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thats good news

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did u get the oa though

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 8:54 PM

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no :/

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 8:54 PM

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ah

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🐒

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whend u apply

spark jacinth Dec 7, 2020, 8:54 PM

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at least you got company now lol

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 8:54 PM

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gg

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 8:55 PM

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dec 11 i think

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 8:55 PM

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i also got the zoom invite the day of

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what

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 8:55 PM

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no wait

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 8:55 PM

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its dec 7 today

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LOL

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 8:55 PM

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nov 11

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 8:55 PM

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yikes

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i think we mightve gotten resume screened then 🐒

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 8:55 PM

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damn

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 8:55 PM

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sad

spark jacinth Dec 7, 2020, 8:55 PM

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no im pretty sure they said its for everyone

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 8:55 PM

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yeah thats what they said at the zoom

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whend u apply

spark jacinth Dec 7, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Nov 9

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 8:56 PM

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gg

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i guess it is time to pray

spark jacinth Dec 7, 2020, 8:56 PM

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:((

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 8:56 PM

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although i dont go to target school so i prob wouldnt get in anyways lol

spark jacinth Dec 7, 2020, 8:56 PM

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yeah same lol

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 8:56 PM

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yea same

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 8:57 PM

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🐒

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 8:57 PM

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monke

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 9:00 PM

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whend u apply

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 9:00 PM

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why does elmo look so concerned?

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 9:00 PM

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gg

topaz plank Dec 7, 2020, 9:01 PM

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btw what schools are considered "target schools" for companies like 2sigma

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just curious

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 9:01 PM

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harvard

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stanford

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mit

topaz plank Dec 7, 2020, 9:01 PM

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only those?

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 9:02 PM

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idk stuff like that lol

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keep in mind they only take 8 people

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so like

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 9:02 PM

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2/8 of their last years intern were from harvard

spark jacinth Dec 7, 2020, 9:02 PM

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i guess when you apply there's a drop down and there's a few schools and an "other" option. I guess everything in that list is target

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 9:03 PM

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👀

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like they put better known ones

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but theyre looking for like 4 of the ones in the list

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kek

spark jacinth Dec 7, 2020, 9:04 PM

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I read only one out of all final interview invites were non-target :0

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 9:04 PM

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yeah i saw lol

spark jacinth Dec 7, 2020, 9:04 PM

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rip i suppose

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 9:04 PM

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it do be like that sometimes

topaz plank Dec 7, 2020, 9:04 PM

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@soft hound can I dm you to see if you think mine would count?

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 9:04 PM

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sure

proper mountain Dec 7, 2020, 9:04 PM

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is target school kids more superior than non target school kids in terms of knowledge

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 9:04 PM

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im not that well versed in US unis though

spark jacinth Dec 7, 2020, 9:05 PM

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proper mountain is target school kids more superior than non target school kids in terms of know...

maybe not but they def got the drive

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 9:05 PM

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proper mountain is target school kids more superior than non target school kids in terms of know...

on average? probably

proper mountain Dec 7, 2020, 9:05 PM

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i didn't go to famous school because i didn't want my parents to pay anymore money for my school

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im not eligible for loans in the US

spark jacinth Dec 7, 2020, 9:06 PM

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that's how it is for most intl students

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 9:07 PM

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gg

odd kraken Dec 7, 2020, 9:09 PM

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going to non target, i think target schools tend to have better classes

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we dont even have an algorithms class sad

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 9:11 PM

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is there anyone who goes to like harvard and didnt get oa

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that would make me feel a lot better

obtuse otter Dec 7, 2020, 9:11 PM

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yeah targets have way better courses

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i dont have a data structure course

pale copper Dec 7, 2020, 9:13 PM

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I still think 2sigma will give oa to everyone since I go to a nontarget as well

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Although it's in a consortium which has a target

obtuse otter Dec 7, 2020, 9:15 PM

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@pale copper haverford? 💀

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@tame ridge it's mixed into all our courses

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like this semester (comp sci 1) we learned hash tables, linked lists, stacks, and queues

pale copper Dec 7, 2020, 9:15 PM

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obtuse otter <@!700019874734538924> haverford? 💀

No

obtuse otter Dec 7, 2020, 9:15 PM

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comp sci 2 we learn trees (cause functional programming language)

loud raft Dec 7, 2020, 9:16 PM

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My comp sci 1 was just learning strings and functions in Java and comp sci 2 was OOP -> then we take Data structures and algorithms

low epoch Dec 7, 2020, 9:17 PM

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odd kraken going to non target, i think target schools tend to have better classes

this is 100% true

obtuse otter Dec 7, 2020, 9:17 PM

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what consortium? im thinking claremont consortium or 5 college or that upenn one

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5 college doesn't have a target in it tho (unless ur talking about wellesley)

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but claremont has hmc

quiet musk Dec 7, 2020, 9:38 PM

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my school is non-target and IMO has pretty good classes

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although i suppose waterloo would probably have better so i guess the statement holds that target schools have better

graceful adder Dec 7, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Does anyone know Amazon latest start date for summer internship? I asked them twice and they gave me 2 answers: July 23rd and July 26th...

thick ridge Dec 7, 2020, 10:00 PM

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not going to amazon but i've heard around the block that its the 26th

stiff vessel Dec 7, 2020, 10:11 PM

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they could be non cs cmu

spark jacinth Dec 7, 2020, 10:11 PM

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definition of target lol

stiff vessel Dec 7, 2020, 10:11 PM

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are likely non cs cmu*

spark jacinth Dec 7, 2020, 10:13 PM

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im pretty sure waterloo is target tho

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unsure about respect and stuff

fleet cairn Dec 7, 2020, 10:18 PM

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@obsidian vortex i think thats the main part of it though

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like thats the key point

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to a lesser extent thats like saying idk if mit gets any respect outside of their engineering and math faculties

timber solar Dec 7, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Is northeastern good for cs?

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I heard it's like waterloo in terms of coops

thick ridge Dec 7, 2020, 10:20 PM

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it's good but not wloo level

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neu is a much more well-rounded school imo

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but less cs focused

spark jacinth Dec 7, 2020, 10:20 PM

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i mean, i'm not all that confident, but from an outsider's perspective and based on what I've read, Waterloo does seem target

thick ridge Dec 7, 2020, 10:20 PM

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but yeah the co-op program is really strong

fallow shuttle Dec 7, 2020, 10:21 PM

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I've had a few recruiters and interviews say good things about the school so I'd say it's decently respected @obsidian vortex

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 10:27 PM

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idk bout the US but it has the best undergradute cs program in canada

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mainly cause of their prestige and coop program

fleet cairn Dec 7, 2020, 10:27 PM

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with respect to american schools

vivid lintel Dec 7, 2020, 10:28 PM

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even if wloo is not target, those students get so many damn coops that they have no trouble landing whatever they want

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(exaggerating obv)

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 10:28 PM

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ive heard its a target school in the us but im not entirely sure how it compares to ivy leagues in the us

fleet cairn Dec 7, 2020, 10:29 PM

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yea i think schooling wise its a tough comparison but honestly feel like in terms of coops its close

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im using coops and internships interchangably

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 10:31 PM

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yeah but companies go to those schools to recruit

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for internships

fleet cairn Dec 7, 2020, 10:31 PM

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in terms of job outlook / internship clout or whatever you want to call it

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 10:31 PM

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oh for sure

fleet cairn Dec 7, 2020, 10:32 PM

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yea ik i dont think anyones arguing that

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but the thing is wloo is basically based around that whole thing

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 10:32 PM

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With waterloo, probably only the top 5-10% actually make it to cali

fleet cairn Dec 7, 2020, 10:32 PM

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so it shouldnt be surprising to see that its intern outcomes are good

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like, if the program is designed in a way so that ur entire 5 years at uni are based around that essentially

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yeah 100%

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 10:33 PM

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in canada

fleet cairn Dec 7, 2020, 10:33 PM

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theres no doubt about that

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i think we're talkinga bout completely different things here

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 10:33 PM

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don't ivies have internships?

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thing with coop is that you aren't forced to get a dev job

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you could be working at mcdonalds at itll count for coop

fleet cairn Dec 7, 2020, 10:34 PM

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noone is arguing you have to have coop, just saying the reason as to why waterloo has pretty decent intern outcomes is because its structured in a way where it basically forces you to grind for that

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despite not neccessarily having the talent that mit / stanford / whatever is pulling in

junior elk Dec 7, 2020, 10:35 PM

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what im saying is just cause you have the waterloo coop doesn't mean youll get a good job

last glade Dec 7, 2020, 10:35 PM

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stanford is basically autoadmit for internships LMAO

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facebook reached out to this fresher and he just got pulled through the system

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idk if he had contacts within or what

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he could also be 🧢

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true true

fleet cairn Dec 7, 2020, 10:36 PM

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man was probably ioi plat lmao

last glade Dec 7, 2020, 10:36 PM

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spots are getting cut, number of peopel applying just goes up

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f

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how heavy do referrals weigh in the process

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like ik they increase ure chances of getting an interview, but does submitting a referral give you access to an easier/expadited process?

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mm

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submtted like a month ago? still nothin :(

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do they reach out to reject?

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us

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uh im second applying as 3rd

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is the info public?

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yep

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ah gotcha

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returns get reval? i thought they just get back in for most companies

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cool cool. hopefully i hear back before feb mid

halcyon folio Dec 7, 2020, 10:54 PM

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at least for google, referrals just help u get an interview basically, nothing else really past that

warm crystal Dec 7, 2020, 10:55 PM

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not this year lol

amber lark Dec 7, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Google is impossible to actually have someone look at your resume, the ATS is extremely strict. Referral is your best shot

twilit mesa Dec 7, 2020, 11:12 PM

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i know someone that got referred to Google and didn't get oa

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its just rng

loud hollow Dec 7, 2020, 11:12 PM

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yea he gave me one ^ and i didnt get anything

twilit mesa Dec 7, 2020, 11:12 PM

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who gave u referral?

loud hollow Dec 7, 2020, 11:12 PM

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@twilit mesa

twilit mesa Dec 7, 2020, 11:12 PM

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?

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idk u

spark jacinth Dec 7, 2020, 11:13 PM

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what does rng stand for?

soft hound Dec 7, 2020, 11:13 PM

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luck

twilit mesa Dec 7, 2020, 11:13 PM

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^

spark jacinth Dec 7, 2020, 11:14 PM

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oh

simple saffron Dec 7, 2020, 11:28 PM

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red nlue green

obtuse otter Dec 7, 2020, 11:34 PM

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@sturdy fog mine says that they pause travel if its remote so no :(

sturdy fog Dec 7, 2020, 11:36 PM

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@obtuse otter ah well, i dont wanna work from my room anymore 😦 thnx for the answer even if i deleted my comment ^^

warm crystal Dec 7, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Did anyone hear back from FB? (who gave their final last week)

dusk raft Dec 7, 2020, 11:53 PM

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warm crystal Did anyone hear back from FB? (who gave their final last week)

It usually takes almost exactly a week so if you did it mid or late last week you should hear back soon!

warm crystal Dec 7, 2020, 11:54 PM

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ohh cool

twilit mesa Dec 8, 2020, 12:23 AM

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does anyone the intern process for paypal? and if they do fall

stuck fulcrum Dec 8, 2020, 1:08 AM

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It's been 12 days since I filled out the amazon interview form and no word. Any idea what to do?

unkempt nebula Dec 8, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Bruh I am so tired of applying now

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ugh and finals

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fml

stiff vessel Dec 8, 2020, 1:10 AM

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what about your diss track

torpid lance Dec 8, 2020, 1:19 AM

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stuck fulcrum It's been 12 days since I filled out the amazon interview form and no word. Any ...

You've checked your portal too?

stuck fulcrum Dec 8, 2020, 1:19 AM

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@torpid lance Yep. Still says under consideration

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I tried emailing the email but it seems like a black hole

torpid lance Dec 8, 2020, 1:20 AM

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If you've already tried emailing then idk. iirc some people did have to wait longer than 12 days though despite the email only saying 12

stuck fulcrum Dec 8, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Oh that's good to know. Thanks!

torpid lance Dec 8, 2020, 1:21 AM

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It could just be they had nothing for your availability tbh, they sent me my final after 12 days and it was one of the last days they let me pick

stuck fulcrum Dec 8, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Yeah all the dates I picked have already passed

torpid lance Dec 8, 2020, 1:22 AM

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I wouldn't sweat it too much, people said they didn't start wait listing until around march last year, so you should be good

simple saffron Dec 8, 2020, 1:23 AM

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P A N I C

stuck fulcrum Dec 8, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Yeah I just already accepted an offer so if I do get amazon, I want to be able to let the other company know asap

simple saffron Dec 8, 2020, 1:23 AM

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where ya headed?

stuck fulcrum Dec 8, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Better.com

torpid lance Dec 8, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Yeah I'm in the same boat lmao just accepted an offer today

simple saffron Dec 8, 2020, 1:23 AM

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nice

stuck fulcrum Dec 8, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Congrats on accepting!

loud hollow Dec 8, 2020, 1:25 AM

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where did you accept @torpid lance

torpid lance Dec 8, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Zillow

loud hollow Dec 8, 2020, 1:25 AM

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also lmfao i told amazon recruiter if i could interview for winter and they told me nah lmfao

torpid lance Dec 8, 2020, 1:25 AM

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But I'm in Amazon and Google's process right now so if I'm lucky enough to get either, gonna renege

loud hollow Dec 8, 2020, 1:26 AM

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nicee

simple saffron Dec 8, 2020, 1:26 AM

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surely zillow > amazon?

stuck fulcrum Dec 8, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Oh that's awesome. Haven't heard from Google and applied in September with referral. Pretty crazy how slow some companies have been

torpid lance Dec 8, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Don't think so doop, pretty sure amazon will open more doors for me than zillow

stuck fulcrum Dec 8, 2020, 1:27 AM

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I applied and did blackrock's assessment in August and got an interview request mid November

loud hollow Dec 8, 2020, 1:27 AM

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idk ive talked to a few people about it for zillow vs amazon

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and some people lean for either or

torpid lance Dec 8, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Zillow seems like it'll be fun for sure, my interviewer had a lot of great things to say about how the company has been trending tech wise, but I feel like having amazon on your cv will look better than Zillow

loud hollow Dec 8, 2020, 1:28 AM

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are you junior or senior ?

torpid lance Dec 8, 2020, 1:28 AM

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junior

loud hollow Dec 8, 2020, 1:28 AM

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oops soph*

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ah i c i c

simple saffron Dec 8, 2020, 1:29 AM

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fair. They're also both seattle right?

torpid lance Dec 8, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Uh idk which office I'll have for Zillow but it's fully remote regardless. For Amazon I'd be hoping to get Cambridge MA if I get in

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otherwise probably Seattle

dapper shard Dec 8, 2020, 1:41 AM

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for work i would choose zillow tbh

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amazon name i think unfortunately is slightly better

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but honestly i doubt it makes that big of a difference

loud hollow Dec 8, 2020, 1:45 AM

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LOL why "unfortunately"

bitter onyx Dec 8, 2020, 1:45 AM

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had an interview with vmware like 2-3 weeks ago, asked a recruiter for an update today, told me manager liked me but i'm the only person he's talked to. chances looking good?

loud hollow Dec 8, 2020, 1:46 AM

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yeessss!

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vmware is team dependent

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so if manager likes you i think you have a good shot

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well from my experience LOL

bitter onyx Dec 8, 2020, 1:47 AM

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yeah i first talked to 2 people on the team, it was literally such a casual interview

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they asked like maybe 4 questions and then we just talked about cali lol

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and then it was the team manager and it went pretty well

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so hopefully i get it!!

loud hollow Dec 8, 2020, 1:49 AM

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good luck!!!

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Is this pde or swe?

dapper shard Dec 8, 2020, 1:49 AM

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loud hollow LOL why "unfortunately"

my personal bias. i would prefer zillow over amazon. i think the work is cooler and more interesting

bitter onyx Dec 8, 2020, 1:53 AM

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it's for tech ops

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dealing with servers/hardware/networks

bitter geyser Dec 8, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Anyone have any information about Comcast interview?

lone orbit Dec 8, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Anyone here who is in the google host match pool and waiting ?

unkempt nebula Dec 8, 2020, 2:25 AM

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stiff vessel what about your diss track

still in the works smh

halcyon folio Dec 8, 2020, 2:27 AM

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@lone orbit i am

karmic dome Dec 8, 2020, 2:34 AM

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Has anyone here done an interview for Braze?

lone orbit Dec 8, 2020, 2:40 AM

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@halcyon folio how long have you been in the pool?

spark jacinth Dec 8, 2020, 2:42 AM

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What’s the difference between SWE and DevOps?

halcyon folio Dec 8, 2020, 3:01 AM

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@lone orbit officially signed the offer letter last friday but i believe they only started project matching last week anyway

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 3:26 AM

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anyone here done comma ai interview

unreal anchor Dec 8, 2020, 3:27 AM

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i thought they dont do internships

thick ridge Dec 8, 2020, 3:27 AM

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fleet cairn anyone here done comma ai interview

you got comma interview? pog

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 3:28 AM

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@unreal anchor they do

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yea

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i got one 6 months ago but trump was buggin back then

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and they emailed me jn if i wanna interview still

unreal anchor Dec 8, 2020, 3:29 AM

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i remember george saying that he doesnt care for interns lol

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cool

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 3:29 AM

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really?

unreal anchor Dec 8, 2020, 3:29 AM

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yea

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you have to be hand selected basically

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 3:30 AM

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i remember in a vid he said he was hiring

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idk i had to email some guy though it wasnt really a normal application

unreal anchor Dec 8, 2020, 3:30 AM

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yea but not interns, fulltime people yes

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your resume prob really good then

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 3:30 AM

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not really

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heavy forum Dec 8, 2020, 3:32 AM

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Some of these hourly pays for these internships are nutters

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 3:32 AM

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"we do hire interns the bar is similar as full time"

heavy forum Dec 8, 2020, 3:33 AM

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Coming from $14 an hour I will light my nuts on fire with a blowtorch if I come out making $30, $40, or $50 an hour this summer.

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 3:33 AM

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maybe what you saw was from comma early days? idk

unreal anchor Dec 8, 2020, 3:34 AM

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i watched a video like last month

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said he prefers fulltime over interns

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 3:35 AM

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thats probably true for many start ups

unreal anchor Dec 8, 2020, 3:36 AM

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careers site says they like people that do comp math or comp prog yep

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 3:36 AM

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i just emailed them

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and they sent me a hackerrank

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and i did the hackerrank and they give me interview

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it was like

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2 mediums and 2 hards

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by some stroke of luck i managed to do it in like an hour though

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and my resume is pretty piss poor

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so i think they just blessed me

lone orbit Dec 8, 2020, 3:37 AM

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@halcyon folio so it was a guaranteed offer for you? How does that work

unreal anchor Dec 8, 2020, 3:37 AM

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id have to have like 5 strokes of luck

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 3:37 AM

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stroke my cactus

warped wind Dec 8, 2020, 3:37 AM

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is it worth to apply to places just to get codesignal invites to get a chance to retake

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because as far as I know, you just need to get lucky once

hollow hawk Dec 8, 2020, 3:38 AM

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yes

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if u find any lmk

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PepeHands

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 3:38 AM

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nahh bro fuck that noise

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its the one where u process the video right

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yea no i didnt do that

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i think its optional like if you do it they'll b e more favourable to you

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after i got the interview i told me boy to apply, he emailed them his resume and they just gave him the programming challenge and said if he could do it he would get the hackerrank lmao

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but yea if anyone did an interview there before any heads up would be appreciated

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i dont know shit about self driving cars and stuff like that

halcyon folio Dec 8, 2020, 3:42 AM

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@lone orbit yea, im guaranteed a project

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im returning tho so idk how it is for others

lone orbit Dec 8, 2020, 3:43 AM

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I see that makes sense! Would you mind if I dm you as you already have gone through the process once? @halcyon folio i had a few questions

halcyon folio Dec 8, 2020, 3:44 AM

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yea sure

heavy forum Dec 8, 2020, 3:58 AM

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📎 Screen_Shot_2020-12-07_at_10.57.43_PM.png

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Thoughts on my personal portfolio site I cooked up in html5/css/js this week to submit with my intern apps?

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just wanted to get something together to get the brownie points on apps tbh.

twin obsidian Dec 8, 2020, 4:00 AM

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Looks good

heavy forum Dec 8, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Solid thanks brother.

fast dagger Dec 8, 2020, 4:02 AM

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*nvm

heavy forum Dec 8, 2020, 4:02 AM

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I was gonna say what are you referring to lmfao ignore the actual text

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just put down blabber to fill the eye while I designed it

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why the intro section on the left sounds like nuts as well

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that was what I wrote for python and just pasted it down everything and left it at html, .etc.

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Referring to margin right?

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Working on that right now

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Ahh I see yeah it's really hard i've been struggling w that

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tried some border work .etc .etc but nothing sticks and now i'm too far deep down the minimalism hole to go too crazy.

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w that said - I'm not trying to freelance a new tesla homepage just want brownie points for a neat site w some js fades and a personal .dev domain name lol

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also tried icons in the header bar and it was too busy w the rest of the theme as well. o_O

thick shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:13 AM

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we love that

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i cant wait until companies actually refactor OAs to be more realistic

dapper shard Dec 8, 2020, 4:13 AM

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like Stripe?

thick shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:13 AM

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hubspot unironically has the most integrated oa

dapper shard Dec 8, 2020, 4:13 AM

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yeah hubspot too

narrow patrol Dec 8, 2020, 4:14 AM

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dapper shard like Stripe?

ahh i wish i could see the stripe oa lmao

thick shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:14 AM

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etsy had a really realistic one too

narrow patrol Dec 8, 2020, 4:14 AM

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sounds like a lot of fun

thick shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:14 AM

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idk if they recruited this year LOL

narrow patrol Dec 8, 2020, 4:14 AM

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realistic interviews are the most fun tbh

dapper shard Dec 8, 2020, 4:14 AM

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i didn't even know etsy hired tbh

narrow patrol Dec 8, 2020, 4:14 AM

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more exciting to implement an actual feature then just solve a random leetcode imo

thick shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:14 AM

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they ghosted like everyone i think

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last year

dapper shard Dec 8, 2020, 4:15 AM

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then get good at other things besides leetcode 🙂

narrow patrol Dec 8, 2020, 4:15 AM

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^

thick shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:15 AM

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i think one of the hardest oas i had wasnt leetcode lol

narrow patrol Dec 8, 2020, 4:15 AM

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other thing should excite you bc the work you do mostly isnt leetcode..

thick shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:15 AM

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i basically had to write a templating engine in javascript in a hour

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was for some stealth startup

dapper shard Dec 8, 2020, 4:16 AM

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that sounds frustrating ngl

thick shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:16 AM

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i mean there was leetcode concepts involved but yea

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it was hard

narrow patrol Dec 8, 2020, 4:16 AM

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thick shore i basically had to write a templating engine in javascript in a hour

damnn

narrow patrol Dec 8, 2020, 4:16 AM

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thick shore was for some stealth startup

haha they can probably afford to do this since they barely have any spots

thick shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:16 AM

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yea i mean if they hire the wrong person their company is fucked lol

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it was like <10 employee stealth startup

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funded by some vc place

narrow patrol Dec 8, 2020, 4:17 AM

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dangg

thick shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:17 AM

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i think its a waste of time looking for new grad talent

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at that stage

narrow patrol Dec 8, 2020, 4:18 AM

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yeah if its that small you need more stable and experienced leadership first

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not new grads to mentor lol

thick shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:18 AM

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yea i wouldnt have went to a company so small

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just did it for the experience and connection

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but yea i got owned by that test

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it devolves into a graph problem

narrow patrol Dec 8, 2020, 4:26 AM

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thick shore it devolves into a graph problem

rip

warped wind Dec 8, 2020, 4:37 AM

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man the feels

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mentioned this before but investing so much time on LeetCode made me worse at other forms of technical interviewing

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at this point, I only continue so that I won't break my monthly challenge streak

dapper shard Dec 8, 2020, 4:41 AM

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warped wind at this point, I only continue so that I won't break my monthly challenge streak

Huge sadge tbh

warped wind Dec 8, 2020, 4:42 AM

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nothing is getting in the way of my streak 😤

abstract wagon Dec 8, 2020, 4:45 AM

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@sinful oar did u hear back from msft yet

sinful oar Dec 8, 2020, 4:46 AM

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abstract wagon <@!326439272674492420> did u hear back from msft yet

not yet so it’s whatever at this point

abstract wagon Dec 8, 2020, 4:46 AM

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i havent :///

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same dudee haha

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hopefully they get back to me over winter break bc finals rn

sinful oar Dec 8, 2020, 4:47 AM

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msft is giving zero fucks about offer deadlines rn

abstract wagon Dec 8, 2020, 4:47 AM

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smh rude of them

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love ur profile pic btw

sinful oar Dec 8, 2020, 4:48 AM

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real hot girl shit :/ thank u!

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hoping for good news for the both of us

abstract wagon Dec 8, 2020, 4:48 AM

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yessss me too!!!😫

earnest leaf Dec 8, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Has anyone here gotten a third round w fb

thick shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:56 AM

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earnest leaf Has anyone here gotten a third round w fb

ya

humble saddle Dec 8, 2020, 5:02 AM

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my roommate did

earnest leaf Dec 8, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Is it just comparable to the first two

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I got shafted on my second round

warm crystal Dec 8, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Do you have any idea what caused him to get a 3rd interview?

earnest leaf Dec 8, 2020, 5:05 AM

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^^

twilit mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:06 AM

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earnest leaf Has anyone here gotten a third round w fb

i did :3

earnest leaf Dec 8, 2020, 5:06 AM

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twilit mesa i did :3

Do you have any suspicion as to what went wrong?

twilit mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:07 AM

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for me it was bc they couldn't agree to either accept or reject me

thick shore Dec 8, 2020, 5:07 AM

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not enough signal

humble saddle Dec 8, 2020, 5:07 AM

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i think 3rd interview is like last chance to impress them

twilit mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:07 AM

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then i got told i needed a little bit more ❤️

thick shore Dec 8, 2020, 5:07 AM

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google does the same thing

humble saddle Dec 8, 2020, 5:07 AM

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not enough reason to reject/accept ya

twilit mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:08 AM

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but as you can see im a unicorn simp so im ok

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https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-crying-tears-sad-emotional-gif-15881815

Tenor

earnest leaf Dec 8, 2020, 5:08 AM

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I know that much but I mean is there anything obvious that didn’t go right in the interview or was it just simply not enough signal

thick shore Dec 8, 2020, 5:10 AM

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theres no absolute answer to ur question

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u may have done something obviously wrong in ur 2nd round

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which led to less good signal

earnest leaf Dec 8, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Gotcha

lunar burrow Dec 8, 2020, 5:18 AM

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heavy forum Thoughts on my personal portfolio site I cooked up in html5/css/js this week to ...

typo: "cirriculum"

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please don't use stars to indicate your experience with languages, it's meaningless

heavy forum Dec 8, 2020, 5:18 AM

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*just dumby content, ignore the filler 🙂

lunar burrow Dec 8, 2020, 5:18 AM

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telling a recruiter that my python is "4/5" gives them no indication of proficiency
typically you'd order a list of languages starting from most proficient one, anyway

heavy forum Dec 8, 2020, 5:22 AM

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hm, I def see what you mean on something like a resume

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for a casual portfolio/personal site I thought it was a fun take.

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actually saw it off another users resume one time and thought I would translate it to my portfolio site. seemed kind of "fun".

stiff vessel Dec 8, 2020, 5:37 AM

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when i see 10/10 c++ on a sophomores resume

slow gale Dec 8, 2020, 6:46 AM

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Hi is there anyone here that was interviewing for Uber ATG and/or accepted an offer for them?

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I just read the news that they are being bought out by Aurora and I was supposed to move on to my final round with them

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I’ve got no idea what’s gonna happen now

odd kraken Dec 8, 2020, 7:07 AM

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o 😬

rocky tiger Dec 8, 2020, 7:30 AM

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:0

frosty ginkgo Dec 8, 2020, 7:34 AM

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slow gale Hi is there anyone here that was interviewing for Uber ATG and/or accepted an of...

is this the building in Pittsburgh?

tardy minnow Dec 8, 2020, 8:13 AM

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lunar burrow telling a recruiter that my python is "4/5" gives them no indication of proficie...

I got asked this type of question in an interview but I was afraid I answered too honestly😬

abstract wagon Dec 8, 2020, 8:58 AM

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is there a capital one intern discord?

lunar burrow Dec 8, 2020, 11:02 AM

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If anyone's done the Apollo OA and got more than 8/11 on the string problem, could you DM me?
I'm curious about your approach (have a solution that's at least 9/11 but ran out of time to implement)

lunar burrow Dec 8, 2020, 12:22 PM

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this is the only snowflake OA i've full solved (with time to spare). Failed the last 3-4 this year for various roles

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Although I've seen 2/3 of the problems before

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one from the apollo OA that I just took an hour ago...

lunar burrow Dec 8, 2020, 12:39 PM

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How useful is handshake? I made an account even though only the business school at my uni uses handshake, so i'm not allowed to see any stuff related to my uni. still worth filling out the profile?

sharp kayak Dec 8, 2020, 1:34 PM

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lunar burrow How useful is handshake? I made an account even though only the business school ...

I feel like Handshake is most useful for finding on campus student-staff jobs.

woeful heart Dec 8, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Guys, anyone knows what they expect in the hiring manager round at Adobe? Is it behavioural or technical as well. PS: this is the first round.

ancient flower Dec 8, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Does anyone know what the akuna oa is like?

final hawk Dec 8, 2020, 4:26 PM

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ancient flower Does anyone know what the akuna oa is like?

for SWE or quant trading?

ancient flower Dec 8, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Swe

simple saffron Dec 8, 2020, 4:33 PM

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the waiting game sucks

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also - has anyone declined an offer and then emailed the company to take it? lol

abstract wagon Dec 8, 2020, 4:39 PM

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@simple saffron bro what

simple saffron Dec 8, 2020, 4:39 PM

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just wondering. I'm not gonna do it

abstract wagon Dec 8, 2020, 4:39 PM

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i know someone who has

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and it worked out well for him

simple saffron Dec 8, 2020, 4:39 PM

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ah i see

abstract wagon Dec 8, 2020, 4:39 PM

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but kind of an awkward thing to do you know lol

simple saffron Dec 8, 2020, 4:40 PM

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I just saw the same job that I passed up on get posted today

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so i was like damn i feel bad

abstract wagon Dec 8, 2020, 4:40 PM

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i think it was also partially because of covid that they allowed it

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but idk

simple saffron Dec 8, 2020, 4:40 PM

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ah gotcha. unique circumstances

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yeah i wouldnt wanna work with people I initially rejected lol

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weird tension

abstract wagon Dec 8, 2020, 4:46 PM

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What does it mean when your amazon portal only updates the date and nothing else after a final round?

simple saffron Dec 8, 2020, 4:47 PM

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how long since your interview

abstract wagon Dec 8, 2020, 4:47 PM

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1 week tomorrow

simple saffron Dec 8, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Either means nothing or a reject

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dont put too much stock into it

abstract wagon Dec 8, 2020, 4:48 PM

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I was due to hear back within 5 working days

simple saffron Dec 8, 2020, 4:48 PM

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so tomorrow technically

abstract wagon Dec 8, 2020, 4:49 PM

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yeah exactly so since I didn't get application changed

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i think im rejected, rip

simple saffron Dec 8, 2020, 4:49 PM

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sorry man :/

abstract wagon Dec 8, 2020, 4:49 PM

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you should be

simple saffron Dec 8, 2020, 4:49 PM

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lol

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do you have other options

abstract wagon Dec 8, 2020, 4:50 PM

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I have a shitty smaller company offer

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but I'm gonna be a zuccs boi since I have interview w him soon

jagged mason Dec 8, 2020, 4:51 PM

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lit

abstract wagon Dec 8, 2020, 4:51 PM

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hot

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usually it seems they give offers in Tuesday

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ouchies, guess i can only wait and see

brave obsidian Dec 8, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Does anyone know when fb usually gives offers?

abstract wagon Dec 8, 2020, 5:02 PM

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never, i usually get ghosted

brave obsidian Dec 8, 2020, 5:03 PM

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feelsbadman

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i just hope they dont reject me 😫 craughing

humble pendant Dec 8, 2020, 5:08 PM

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brave obsidian Does anyone know when fb usually gives offers?

no specific date - you usually hear back in a week after your final round

viral fable Dec 8, 2020, 5:08 PM

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does BNY mellon cover intern housing?

brave obsidian Dec 8, 2020, 5:09 PM

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humble pendant no specific date - you usually hear back in a week after your final round

TY!

simple saffron Dec 8, 2020, 5:19 PM

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can we agree to stay on this server and give each other referrals once we're into our FT work?

narrow patrol Dec 8, 2020, 5:36 PM

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wait who left?

formal finch Dec 8, 2020, 5:44 PM

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between c1 and MasterCard which looks better on a resume ? I assume c1 right?

jagged mason Dec 8, 2020, 5:45 PM

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c1

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tbh both are fine

obtuse otter Dec 8, 2020, 5:45 PM

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how do i ask if i can move my offer to off season? is it really just as simple as "do you do winter internships"

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im overthinking things so i need a sanity check

jagged mason Dec 8, 2020, 5:46 PM

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what company/

obtuse otter Dec 8, 2020, 5:46 PM

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nordstrom

jagged mason Dec 8, 2020, 5:46 PM

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just straight up ask

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"hey thank you the the offer X, i'm very excited to have this opportunity. Is it possible to move this to X term. "

obtuse otter Dec 8, 2020, 5:48 PM

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okok thats what i thought tysm 🙏

formal finch Dec 8, 2020, 6:17 PM

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@obtuse otter I just emailed them say can we possibly move my internship to spring?

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I moved a Cisco internship from summer to spring

round atlas Dec 8, 2020, 6:35 PM

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I have a good opportunity for a research internship over the summer, should I hold out and try to get a SWE internship? Does the title matter that much?

dapper shard Dec 8, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Unless you want to do research just do that

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Otherwise you can accept the research internship offer for right now and then keep looking for a SWE internship.

low epoch Dec 8, 2020, 6:42 PM

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If it’s freshman summer, research internship sounds awesome. If swe is a strong career possibility, even the most average of swe internships > the best summer research imo

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Because it’s more relevant.

abstract wagon Dec 8, 2020, 6:48 PM

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in companies' eyes: this intern was making money for company vs this student was making knowledge for his/her pleasure

frosty ginkgo Dec 8, 2020, 6:49 PM

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formal finch I moved a Cisco internship from summer to spring

How was the cisco OA and interview for you? I have a referral for next year so I'm targeting that company in particular.

formal finch Dec 8, 2020, 7:06 PM

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@frosty ginkgo OA was lc easy and medium from what i hear, but I skipped both OA and technical interview at cisco

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you interview by teams similar to apple

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my first and only interview was behavioral talking about my experience. so make sure u know everything on your resume

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the second interview would be a technical interview which should've be anything beyond asking concepts or implementing something.

sinful tusk Dec 8, 2020, 7:10 PM

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can someone please review my offer extension email?

heavy forum Dec 8, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Can anyone offer insight into how hard the JPMC OA was?

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Just got the hirevue extension after completing the pymetrics.

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jp morg/chase.

dapper shard Dec 8, 2020, 7:10 PM

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one easy and one medium

heavy forum Dec 8, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Got ya. Medium on the harder side or easier?

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Some "mediums" are questionably mediums.

sinful tusk Dec 8, 2020, 7:11 PM

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easy meduims

heavy forum Dec 8, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Gotcha.

sinful tusk Dec 8, 2020, 7:11 PM

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and u have to talk about the solution

dapper shard Dec 8, 2020, 7:11 PM

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uh if i remember it was a easy dp medium

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im not good at OAs and i was still able to do it. not many test cases if i remember correctly

heavy forum Dec 8, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Solid, thanks dude!

heavy forum Dec 8, 2020, 7:12 PM

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sinful tusk and u have to talk about the solution

what's this about? had hirevues and never done this.

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turn on a mic.. and just talk after you've submitted it?

sinful tusk Dec 8, 2020, 7:12 PM

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i did both

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talked while coding

heavy forum Dec 8, 2020, 7:12 PM

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That was a requirement in the hirevue? to have your mic on while completing the automated coding challenge O_o?

dapper shard Dec 8, 2020, 7:13 PM

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they don't record you while coding

sinful tusk Dec 8, 2020, 7:13 PM

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oh i sound stupid then

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lol i was talking to myself

dapper shard Dec 8, 2020, 7:13 PM

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but you do have to explain your solution after you finish the coding part

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i did that my first time with hirevue when i did blackrock OA lmao

heavy forum Dec 8, 2020, 7:13 PM

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I see, sure.

dapper shard Dec 8, 2020, 7:13 PM

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a lot of people ask that when they first do codevue

heavy forum Dec 8, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Is it an audio recording post-submission?

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or typed.

dapper shard Dec 8, 2020, 7:14 PM

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audio and video

heavy forum Dec 8, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Solid thanks y'all.

dapper shard Dec 8, 2020, 7:14 PM

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wait

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does MongoDB do Texas locations for intern or is that only full time?

neat tiger Dec 8, 2020, 7:16 PM

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has anyone done the epic systems skill assessment?

dapper shard Dec 8, 2020, 7:16 PM

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multiple people here did and my roommate did

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and i have to say

neat tiger Dec 8, 2020, 7:16 PM

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is it as awful as I think will be

dapper shard Dec 8, 2020, 7:16 PM

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unless you are extremely desperate for an offer or opportunity

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don't do it

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a lot of bad reviews of the company and the OA itself is awful from what ive heard

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but ymmv of course

neat tiger Dec 8, 2020, 7:19 PM

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nah i appreciate it, thanks @dapper shard

torn timber Dec 8, 2020, 8:05 PM

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If your recruiter says to tell them about offer deadlines, should you tell them about deadlines that expire before the interview date?

viral abyss Dec 8, 2020, 8:15 PM

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thats the point

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just tell em everything

ember stream Dec 8, 2020, 8:20 PM

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I don’t think so

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Cause then they would know u are someone that reneges

torn timber Dec 8, 2020, 8:22 PM

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ember stream Cause then they would know u are someone that reneges

Yeah that's what I was thinking

dapper shard Dec 8, 2020, 8:22 PM

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they know its a business

quick pawn Dec 8, 2020, 8:23 PM

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i told a company my offer deadline was at a date, then they scheduled my phone interview after it

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and then they still moved me on to the final later

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so i guess they really didnt care

cedar sentinel Dec 8, 2020, 8:25 PM

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facebook onsite/final next week 🥳

brave obsidian Dec 8, 2020, 8:26 PM

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cedar sentinel facebook onsite/final next week 🥳

gl!

pseudo perch Dec 8, 2020, 8:48 PM

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does a recruiter scheduling a call after the final interview indicate good or bad news?

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had my final interview last Friday & emailed her, she said she’d be in touch with news

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got an email today asking to connect this afternoon

humble saddle Dec 8, 2020, 8:50 PM

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sounds like good news 🙂 enjoy your offer

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although some companies are known to reject via phone call

pseudo perch Dec 8, 2020, 8:52 PM

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humble saddle sounds like good news 🙂 enjoy your offer

fingers crossed! it’s my dream company to work at

cedar sentinel Dec 8, 2020, 9:04 PM

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yes

sinful oar Dec 8, 2020, 9:23 PM

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pseudo perch does a recruiter scheduling a call after the final interview indicate good or ba...

in my experience it’s been either or but my fingers are crossed for you!

uneven totem Dec 8, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Anyone interview with Dell yet?

agile saffron Dec 8, 2020, 9:31 PM

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whats the longest extension you guys have ever asked for an offer?

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Bc im interviewing for one place but I have an expiring offer

proper mountain Dec 8, 2020, 9:42 PM

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a week @agile saffron

young flower Dec 8, 2020, 9:52 PM

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did anyone else get an email from Twitch recruiter today asking to schedule a 30 min call "to connect about our internship programs"?

loud raft Dec 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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bro is it hard to get into uwaterloo

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i saw online that avg SAT score is like 1250

junior elk Dec 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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waterloo cs?

loud raft Dec 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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yeah

junior elk Dec 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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yeah

loud raft Dec 8, 2020, 11:22 PM

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what do you think is the avg gpa

junior elk Dec 8, 2020, 11:22 PM

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you need at minimum a 95% avg to be considered for cs/seng

loud raft Dec 8, 2020, 11:22 PM

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o

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so they value GPA much higher than they value SAT

junior elk Dec 8, 2020, 11:22 PM

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SATs aren't a thing in canada

loud raft Dec 8, 2020, 11:22 PM

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o

junior elk Dec 8, 2020, 11:23 PM

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just highschool avg

loud raft Dec 8, 2020, 11:23 PM

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I know absolutely nothing about the CA university realm so like is loo like the MIT of canada?

junior elk Dec 8, 2020, 11:23 PM

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but uw did accept 225% of ppl compared to last year for cs

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so they accepted alot more this year for cs, which sucks for coop cause now double the ppl are competiting for the same coops

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i guess its the mit of canada, i don't know much about mit except that its well known

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its mainly known for its reputation/prestige for its undergrad cs/seng programs

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they have a lot of top companies that recruit there too

fallow shuttle Dec 8, 2020, 11:28 PM

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loud raft I know absolutely nothing about the CA university realm so like is loo like the ...

it's not as hard to get into as MIT

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as for competitiveness it's cs and eng programs are probably one of the hardest to get into in canada

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maybe hardest

junior elk Dec 8, 2020, 11:29 PM

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i think they are the hardest

fallow shuttle Dec 8, 2020, 11:29 PM

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ECs and stuff aren't as big here it's mainly just grades

pseudo perch Dec 8, 2020, 11:29 PM

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sinful oar in my experience it’s been either or but my fingers are crossed for you!

I got the offer!!!

fallow shuttle Dec 8, 2020, 11:29 PM

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so it's hard to compare to america

pseudo perch Dec 8, 2020, 11:30 PM

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it was the most exciting call I’ve gotten omg

sinful oar Dec 8, 2020, 11:30 PM

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pseudo perch I got the offer!!!

that's amazing!!!! congrats :))

loud hollow Dec 8, 2020, 11:30 PM

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!!! congrats

pseudo perch Dec 8, 2020, 11:30 PM

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thank you ❤️❤️

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 11:39 PM

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@fallow shuttle isn't aif a pretty big deal tho

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I remember on the anderson blog it made it seem like aif was pretty important

fallow shuttle Dec 8, 2020, 11:39 PM

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it matters but not to that great of an extent imo

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if u have a high avg you'll get in regardless

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where as you actually need good essays and extracurriculars for top US schools

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 11:40 PM

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yea maybe not as much as america but im not familiar with their admission system

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oh you gotta write essays lmao

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gg

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yea i think on that front aif is nothing, everyone i know didnt rly take the writing part seriously for that

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my friend threw a party that day it was due and he kicked us all out for like 20 minutes so he could do his interview at night lmao

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and he still managed to get into tron

fallow shuttle Dec 8, 2020, 11:42 PM

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I wouldn't even say loo is anywhere near stanford lol

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 11:42 PM

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i feel like its not really meaningful to make comparisons like that

fallow shuttle Dec 8, 2020, 11:42 PM

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ye it's pointless as the end of the day

karmic fog Dec 8, 2020, 11:43 PM

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wait so as long as u have a >95 average is it just guaranteed

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bruh I should've gone to waterloo 😢

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 11:43 PM

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theres a graph somewhere

fallow shuttle Dec 8, 2020, 11:43 PM

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95 isn't guranteed

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 11:43 PM

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i think for software engineering it was something pretty dumb

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like 98 average you have a 40% chance to get in or smth

fallow shuttle Dec 8, 2020, 11:43 PM

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you'd want like 98 to have the greatest odds lol

karmic fog Dec 8, 2020, 11:43 PM

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is the average weighted or unweighted

fallow shuttle Dec 8, 2020, 11:44 PM

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I don't even know what that means lol

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 11:44 PM

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dont think we have that distinction

karmic fog Dec 8, 2020, 11:44 PM

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interesting

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bruh why is it so involved in america

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 11:44 PM

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yea our system is so much chiller

fallow shuttle Dec 8, 2020, 11:44 PM

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more people, more schools

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competition in canada isn't rly on the same level

karmic fog Dec 8, 2020, 11:44 PM

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ig

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waterloo competitive for internships tho lol

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literally everywhere I've worked gets hella waterloo people

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 11:45 PM

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@tulip bronze wait arent u from mcgill?

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or are you in loo cs 2025

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oh huh

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it says youre in the loo discord

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oh true

karmic fog Dec 8, 2020, 11:46 PM

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👀

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y lol

fleet cairn Dec 8, 2020, 11:46 PM

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imposter

karmic fog Dec 8, 2020, 11:46 PM

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some dude from this server I think joined our schools discord but doesn't go there

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kinda sus

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nice what interview?

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ooh nice

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good luck 🍀

narrow patrol Dec 8, 2020, 11:48 PM

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i need motivation now tbh

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i literally do nothing now that recruiting and school are both over

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anyone have ideas to get back on track?

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by back on track i meant be productive craughing

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im technically satisfied w/ my offer atm and not too worried abt school cause im only taking 1 class next sem

runic tinsel Dec 8, 2020, 11:50 PM

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is it reasonable to ask my google recruiter to schedule my back to back interviews as far away as possible? like on the 23rd which is the last day of interviewing this calendar year

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i just got done with finals and haven't been leetcoding

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eh

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tru

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but like

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im not prepared at all

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i dont wanna fail google again lol

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and i honestly dont know if they'll be out of spots tbh

upper sinew Dec 9, 2020, 12:14 AM

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if you'll be working at a quant hedge fund or prop shop as a trader, quant, or swe next summer/full-time, join! https://discord.gg/SmjwdSkc

final hawk Dec 9, 2020, 12:36 AM

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netflix does internships 😮

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they let undergrads do internships

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i think

dapper shard Dec 9, 2020, 12:36 AM

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i saw a post on linkedin

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they hired a person for university programs and diversity inclusion

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so i assumed they were going to start internship posts soon

ionic bronze Dec 9, 2020, 12:38 AM

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get ready to flex your diversity muscles on

odd kraken Dec 9, 2020, 12:41 AM

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yeah I think it was someone who worked as a research assistant

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at a research lab that has Netflix as a corporate sponsor and affiliate

last glade Dec 9, 2020, 2:37 AM

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in a while

soft hound Dec 9, 2020, 3:18 AM

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crocodile

viral fable Dec 9, 2020, 3:32 AM

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i have also heard about netflix currently developing an undergraduate intern program

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i think it was some linkedin post over the summer

proper mountain Dec 9, 2020, 3:35 AM

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any recommendation for Linkedin process? I just got the OA today. Also goldman final?

last glade Dec 9, 2020, 3:46 AM

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proper mountain any recommendation for Linkedin process? I just got the OA today. Also goldman f...

whend u apply to goldman?

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idk if i missed it but every time i check it says closed

obtuse otter Dec 9, 2020, 3:55 AM

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can I just say virtual final interviews are so goated

proper mountain Dec 9, 2020, 3:58 AM

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last glade whend u apply to goldman?

November

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it kinda weird, i had no internship (literally nothing) until thanksgiving then bammed -> northwestern, dell, expedia, goldman, five rings, linkedin

thick hare Dec 9, 2020, 4:04 AM

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proper mountain it kinda weird, i had no internship (literally nothing) until thanksgiving then ...

and none of them could move to fall?

proper mountain Dec 9, 2020, 4:06 AM

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thick hare and none of them could move to fall?

nope PepeHands

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keep pushing!!

thick hare Dec 9, 2020, 4:06 AM

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man that seriously sucks

humble pendant Dec 9, 2020, 4:13 AM

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more jobs will open up in January - keep going. Two years ago I didn't get my offer until March

rain sonnet Dec 9, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Is it true that employers barely check transcript, they just check gpa?

humble pendant Dec 9, 2020, 4:16 AM

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I don't recall employers even checking gpa - the most I've seen is that they check if you're currently enrolled in the school you said on your resume

formal mirage Dec 9, 2020, 5:00 AM

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yo does anyone know how background checks work?
i was being careless and listed my club webdev position as “university of [xxx]” instead of “university of [xxx], [club_name]”

mossy rain Dec 9, 2020, 5:36 AM

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I don't think most companies will look that deep if it's not a job

proper mountain Dec 9, 2020, 5:45 AM

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sorry offers: Northwestern mutual, dell, expedia Final: goldman OA: LinkedIn and phone: five rings

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still processing

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i did and thanks!

karmic fog Dec 9, 2020, 5:50 AM

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proper mountain it kinda weird, i had no internship (literally nothing) until thanksgiving then ...

wtf u got five rings pog

proper mountain Dec 9, 2020, 5:50 AM

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yea but i didnt like the phone call at all, doubt they like me back either

karmic fog Dec 9, 2020, 5:50 AM

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rip

languid sparrow Dec 9, 2020, 5:59 AM

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anyone just get snowflake OA recently

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i feel like i waited like 2 months for this, got all the cases tho!

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they screen before OA or after?

worthy terrace Dec 9, 2020, 6:29 AM

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young flower did anyone else get an email from Twitch recruiter today asking to schedule a 30...

Yeah! I didnt do an OA but I had that call, and then they passed me to the next round to interview directly with a team

proper mountain Dec 9, 2020, 6:59 AM

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WHAT @worthy terrace

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sadge

young flower Dec 9, 2020, 7:06 AM

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worthy terrace Yeah! I didnt do an OA but I had that call, and then they passed me to the next ...

Oh damn that’s awesome :0 I also completely forgot to do the first OA and just forgot about it, which is why I asked bc I was sus about the sudden email but thanks for the input! Do you mind if I DM you for more info?

uneven totem Dec 9, 2020, 2:12 PM

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worthy terrace Yeah! I didnt do an OA but I had that call, and then they passed me to the next ...

Damn I gave the OA ages ago and havent heard bacl

cursive tangle Dec 9, 2020, 2:49 PM

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@young flower @worthy terrace if you guys end up accepting twitch offers I can add yall to our discord <3

sinful tusk Dec 9, 2020, 4:17 PM

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can someone with google offer please DM me?

dapper shard Dec 9, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Bruh why doesn’t twitch want me 😕

gray gulch Dec 9, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Anyone who applied to STEP Zurich and got a response?

tacit marsh Dec 9, 2020, 4:59 PM

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does anyone have a template for emailing a recruiter about another offer deadline? and should I even tell them about it?

narrow patrol Dec 9, 2020, 5:00 PM

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tacit marsh does anyone have a template for emailing a recruiter about another offer deadlin...

are you in the interview process for that company?

tacit marsh Dec 9, 2020, 5:01 PM

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yes, final round for one and the one before final for another

narrow patrol Dec 9, 2020, 5:01 PM

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hmm u could tell them but i wouldn't unless you really want to hear back quick

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sometimes when i have told companies they r just like 'oh we can't meet that deadline, sorry, goodbye'

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when they would have advanced me

tacit marsh Dec 9, 2020, 5:02 PM

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okay thank you

neat tiger Dec 9, 2020, 5:18 PM

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okay, hi people. I've been super behind on the internship search because of finals/family stuff. Does anyone know of places that are still actively recruiting? or am I just overall too late?

dapper shard Dec 9, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Places are still hiring for summer. You have a few more months left

neat tiger Dec 9, 2020, 5:21 PM

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sweet

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that makes me feel a lot better lol

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thank you

real nacelle Dec 9, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Just start applying as soon as you can and then also try to figure out what recruiters you can contact

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Lots of people here are ahead of the curve in terms of figuring out summer plans but there is still plenty of opportunity for summer openings

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good luck!

neat tiger Dec 9, 2020, 5:23 PM

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thank you everyone. i was insanely stressed about it. this makes me feel a lot better.

real nacelle Dec 9, 2020, 5:24 PM

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I would throw your resume in the review section and see what people think as well

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to make sure its all nice and tidy

neat tiger Dec 9, 2020, 5:25 PM

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ah, sweet. you guys are great. thank you.

thick ridge Dec 9, 2020, 5:31 PM

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has anyone done karat and doesnt mind me DMing them

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just scheduled one for RH

dapper shard Dec 9, 2020, 5:34 PM

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I’ve done one before. I didn’t truly “do” it though. I opened it and closed it after a while since I didn’t feel like spending two hours on it.

thick ridge Dec 9, 2020, 5:37 PM

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wait the live interview?

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cuz it's basically a phone interview with a rando engineer i think

dapper shard Dec 9, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Mine was an OA?

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For Pinterest

thick ridge Dec 9, 2020, 5:42 PM

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oh I meant karat interview

dapper shard Dec 9, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Oh nvm then. I’ve only done karat OA

lunar burrow Dec 9, 2020, 5:48 PM

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dapper shard Oh nvm then. I’ve only done karat OA

karat has OA? o.o

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I've only done their interviews

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although it's been a while and i've done like 2-3 so idk specific stuff about rh's anymore :/

dapper shard Dec 9, 2020, 5:49 PM

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I just know that Pinterest I was given a coding environment and a coding problem 😂

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And I was given like 2:30 hrs

lunar burrow Dec 9, 2020, 6:06 PM

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reapplying as in using a new email?

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or just applying to later postings

sonic badger Dec 9, 2020, 6:10 PM

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incoming where

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pepehighaf2

simple saffron Dec 9, 2020, 6:23 PM

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@marsh cairn how long ago did you reapply?

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congrats tho thats lit lmao

dapper shard Dec 9, 2020, 6:27 PM

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They see you’re desirable to other other companies so now they’re more interested

junior elk Dec 9, 2020, 6:28 PM

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lmao that actually worked?

umbral heart Dec 9, 2020, 6:29 PM

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probably, shows you're marketable and hirable

dapper shard Dec 9, 2020, 6:29 PM

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I did it and got five recruiter dms on LinkedIn like two weeks later

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These companies some snakes

thick ridge Dec 9, 2020, 6:30 PM

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bro i did it and got scam dms

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smh

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my head

dapper shard Dec 9, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Broo all of the DMs I’m getting for “business opportunities”

lunar burrow Dec 9, 2020, 6:31 PM

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wait I've gotten 2 DMs and they all ghost after I respond

karmic fog Dec 9, 2020, 6:31 PM

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all my linkedin dms are scams

lunar burrow Dec 9, 2020, 6:31 PM

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what am I doing wrong 🥺 😭

karmic fog Dec 9, 2020, 6:31 PM

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or those stupid "HuStLe" students

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i always think it would be funny to do one of their phone calls and just fuck with them

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so i spend like 30 seconds messaging them back

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but then they spam me so much i just block them or stop replying

umbral heart Dec 9, 2020, 6:39 PM

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i got employed, and no one looked. Guess it depends on name of company lol

pale copper Dec 9, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Recruiters just look for flashy names

runic tinsel Dec 9, 2020, 6:48 PM

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anyone here ever wake up with a horrible sinus/fever on the day of an interview? I have a recruiter call today and my speech isn't quite coherent lol

proper mountain Dec 9, 2020, 6:49 PM

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pale copper Recruiters just look for flashy names

wdym like none american lol?

pale copper Dec 9, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Brand-name companies > Target schools > Minority > GPA > Your ability.

proper mountain Dec 9, 2020, 6:53 PM

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yea i only have last 2, i think. but my ability is alright, googler

willow orchid Dec 9, 2020, 6:53 PM

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@pale copper i have all but minority 😢

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and horrible luck this year

brittle silo Dec 9, 2020, 6:54 PM

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I have all but ability

lunar burrow Dec 9, 2020, 6:56 PM

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interesting, there were hidden test cases on challenge 1

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must be the intentionally ambiguous problem statement, I wonder if you needed a trie after all

umbral heart Dec 9, 2020, 7:08 PM

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recommended language is java? interesting

prisma basin Dec 9, 2020, 7:13 PM

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ok ty!

stiff vessel Dec 9, 2020, 7:23 PM

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if u do oa1 u dont have to do oa2

last glade Dec 9, 2020, 7:24 PM

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they really playing games with us. like the oas are a waiting lobby or somethin

vivid lintel Dec 9, 2020, 7:26 PM

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and literally nothing else changed in your resume? that's pretty dope

waxen kelp Dec 9, 2020, 9:20 PM

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has anyone here done the twitch oa2?

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just wondering what to expect

lunar burrow Dec 9, 2020, 9:35 PM

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expect to get ignored afterward ig KEKW

languid sparrow Dec 9, 2020, 9:35 PM

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i think twitch OAs are actually just waiting lobby games

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oh how soon does snowflake get back after OA?

loud raft Dec 9, 2020, 9:38 PM

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I got rejected the day after POG

icy juniper Dec 9, 2020, 9:38 PM

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how hard is snowflake's OA this year

lunar burrow Dec 9, 2020, 9:39 PM

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loud raft I got rejected the day after POG

for this recent one? how'd you do on it?

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cuz I absolutely threw the past 3-4 spring OAs, but this one I managed to solve everything

loud raft Dec 9, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Oh sorry I was thinking of spring

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All 3 snowflake OAs i took for spring cucked me

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rip szn

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BRO i hate how some interviewers try to have you solve a coding question with 15 mins left in the interview

worthy terrace Dec 9, 2020, 9:47 PM

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young flower Oh damn that’s awesome :0 I also completely forgot to do the first OA and just f...

yeah ofc!

small fossilBOT Dec 9, 2020, 10:01 PM

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You can only use this command in #2021_grad_process or #2021_intern_process

ionic bronze Dec 9, 2020, 10:15 PM

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loud raft BRO i hate how some interviewers try to have you solve a coding question with 15...

and they always follow it up with "don't worry if you don't finish it won't count against you"

of fucking course it will

languid sparrow Dec 9, 2020, 10:21 PM

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how do yall have so many snowflake OAs

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this is the first one i got lmao, i got everything tho

heavy forum Dec 9, 2020, 10:32 PM

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i feel like I see a lot of the same names here that are shuffling half a dozen new faang-esque intern offers every week .. ?

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Haven't you guys accepted an offer yet o_o

crisp lake Dec 9, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Anyone interviewed with Sumo Logic for their SWE Internship role?

last glade Dec 9, 2020, 10:40 PM

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how did yall do gridman. the instructions didnt properly show for me

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but from what i could decipher, their explanation didnt make sense

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snowflake oa 1 problem 2

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its called gridman or something

loud raft Dec 9, 2020, 10:53 PM

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try not to discuss exact problems here or joey will beat u up

last glade Dec 9, 2020, 10:58 PM

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o mb lmao

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figured it was in the past so its ok

vivid lintel Dec 9, 2020, 10:59 PM

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people who haven't taken the oa yet could unfairly benefit from lurking on the discussion

abstract wagon Dec 9, 2020, 11:06 PM

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loud raft BRO i hate how some interviewers try to have you solve a coding question with 15...

Literally the worst feeling ever

runic tinsel Dec 9, 2020, 11:31 PM

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is it fair to ask my google recruiter for more prep time?

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1 week is far from enough for me

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and i told my recruiter i'd like at least 10 days 😦

last glade Dec 9, 2020, 11:36 PM

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They give u prep time? Sweet!

runic tinsel Dec 9, 2020, 11:36 PM

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no

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i have finals until friday and that's why i asked my recruiter to give me as much time as possible

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but they just took the first date i provided before the holiday period on 24th

fallow shuttle Dec 9, 2020, 11:48 PM

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How does that work lol

low epoch Dec 9, 2020, 11:55 PM

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lol that is same energy as me being at 3 different zoom info sessions for 3 companies simultaneously just to get their special job app invite link or whatever

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phone/tablet/pc gang

abstract wagon Dec 9, 2020, 11:56 PM

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blizzard interviewer remembered me failing last year sadge

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blanked on OSI model

proper mountain Dec 9, 2020, 11:59 PM

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lmaoo

patent sluice Dec 10, 2020, 12:04 AM

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jeez you guys have networking questions on interviews

fallow shuttle Dec 10, 2020, 12:07 AM

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that sounds terrible

hollow hawk Dec 10, 2020, 12:09 AM

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tell them no 🥵

terse torrent Dec 10, 2020, 12:11 AM

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@tulip bronze wtf lol

crystal river Dec 10, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Tell them you have an offer but working to extend the deadline or something

terse torrent Dec 10, 2020, 12:11 AM

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still

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u should write a medium article on how u did that

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🐒

fallow shuttle Dec 10, 2020, 12:13 AM

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tbh wouldn't SWE at niantic be better than FBU

crystal river Dec 10, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Honestly I wouldn't care about FB if I already had a Niantic offer

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but that's just me

fallow shuttle Dec 10, 2020, 12:13 AM

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nah I feel the same

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would be different if it was actual SWE at FB

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great offer for 1st year

patent sluice Dec 10, 2020, 12:16 AM

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what if you haven't taken networking

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just insta fail

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 12:30 AM

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@wild zenith my executive opinion is to take an SWE at a respectable company over a freshman/soph internship freshman year

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try to get it next year tho for return offer

quartz maple Dec 10, 2020, 12:40 AM

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anyone know if the "Recommended Language: Java" for twitch oa2 is a hard requirement?

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as in can i do the challenge in python

runic tinsel Dec 10, 2020, 12:41 AM

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should I push my google phone screen to january? i only have 8 days to prepare

devout crypt Dec 10, 2020, 12:41 AM

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obtuse otter <@!784998819170484244> my executive opinion is to take an SWE at a respectable c...

Freshman/sophomore programs are often the easy gateways into a real swe internship at the company the following summer

fallow shuttle Dec 10, 2020, 12:42 AM

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quartz maple anyone know if the "Recommended Language: Java" for twitch oa2 is a hard require...

it's recommended not required so python should be fine

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 12:42 AM

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devout crypt Freshman/sophomore programs are often the easy gateways into a real swe internsh...

bro already has a real SWE internship at niantic his freshman year tho

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he'll have 0 issue getting faang in the future

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and he'll learn more

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FBU is literally codepath, STEP is a baby project with 0 impact and idek what explore does but u spend half the time as a PM

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i'd rather do a real internship

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this just my opinion tho

fallow shuttle Dec 10, 2020, 12:43 AM

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in terms of personal growth, explore is probably the best of the 3

last glade Dec 10, 2020, 12:44 AM

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explore?

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is that fb

fallow shuttle Dec 10, 2020, 12:44 AM

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microsoft

last glade Dec 10, 2020, 12:44 AM

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o

devout crypt Dec 10, 2020, 1:04 AM

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obtuse otter he'll have 0 issue getting faang in the future

I mean directly into the same company that the freshman program is in

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It’s a personal choice tho can’t go wrong either way

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:05 AM

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yes

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there's no downside to either choice at the end of the day

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if u get SWE as freshman it doesnt matter which one u do

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i mean getting an internship at big tech puts u ahead of 95% of cs majors because these internships are super selective

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yes

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if u look at linkedin of soph at ur school you'll see that it's either freshman year program or nothing

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or also out of ountry internship

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yeah local resteraunt gives u fries nike drips u down 😈

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work at clothing companies. drip is eternal, TC is temporary

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dude

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don't call me a nerd but nordstrom gives their technology department shirts that says nerdstrom and i nearly signed just to get it

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signing then reneging to get free clothes is the strat!

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:13 AM

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bruh what I feel like BLM merch is just fucking depressing like does anyone else find it weird trying to promote your company while masquerading it as caring about social issues

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:13 AM

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well

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pretending to care is at least better than whatever the fuck coinbase is doing

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:14 AM

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idk bruh it's an ad

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that's the point of swag

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:14 AM

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eh u an promote two things on clothing

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:14 AM

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imagine if everyone started advertising "shop at our store cause we support BLM"

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nah they're totally profiting off it

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gross

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:15 AM

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i mean companies profit off everything bro this isn't the thing to waste energy on

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:15 AM

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ya but like why make BLM swag

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that's actually so bad IMO

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:15 AM

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BLM swag and actively promoting the movement (at least on the surface) >>>> doing nothing

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:16 AM

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you can do without advertising

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it's like when a YouTuber gives a random homeless dude $100 and then makes 10k off the video

stiff vessel Dec 10, 2020, 1:16 AM

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interns get too much swag

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Give to new grad pls

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:16 AM

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lolol

thick shore Dec 10, 2020, 1:17 AM

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discord is sending me more swag being a discord partner than uber is with me joining as a FTE :')

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:17 AM

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coinbase sent me cotton

low epoch Dec 10, 2020, 1:17 AM

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karmic fog bruh what I feel like BLM merch is just fucking depressing like does anyone else...

this is probably the sentiment among a lot of people (but hard to come out and say for obvious reasons)
and anyone who thinks what coinbase does is especially rare/uncommon is wrong; it's all too common

but yeah even if all a company does is pander to social justice issues on the PR side, the culture is still better than those like coinbase

stiff vessel Dec 10, 2020, 1:18 AM

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OUR swag

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:18 AM

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low epoch this is probably the sentiment among a lot of people (but hard to come out and s...

idk about that, I think it diminishes from the actual BLM movement by totally white washing it

low epoch Dec 10, 2020, 1:18 AM

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just start viewing these corporations as evil and lesser of two evils, etc, you will be alright

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:18 AM

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BLM should not be 'cool'

dapper shard Dec 10, 2020, 1:19 AM

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the thing is though

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thats exactly what it is unfortunately

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:19 AM

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BLM being 'cool' is better than people thinking BLM is a terrorist group funded by israel

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:19 AM

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personally if a company sent me that shirt I'd have a really hard time joining them

low epoch Dec 10, 2020, 1:20 AM

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I mean it's difficult to reconcile. Do you want a company who never speaks up? How authentic are they being and do they really mean well?
I don't have an answer. But the trend is looking like this: if a company has NOTHING to say about this stuff, it's probably garbage culture

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:20 AM

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obtuse otter BLM being 'cool' is better than people thinking BLM is a terrorist group funded ...

it's not really, because it'll jsut make people feel good and ignore the actual message and nothing happens. it's covering up the actual message and replacing it with brand friendly bullshit

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:20 AM

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idk im of the opinion that the more BLM gets inundated in the public sphere, the more good comes out of it

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:20 AM

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karmic fog it's not really, because it'll jsut make people feel good and ignore the actual ...

if a blm shirt makes u ignore the message u wouldn't care about it anyway

split night Dec 10, 2020, 1:20 AM

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^

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:21 AM

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what I'm saying a BLM shirt erases the actual issue at a societal level

thick shore Dec 10, 2020, 1:21 AM

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i see ohads point

dapper shard Dec 10, 2020, 1:21 AM

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the amount of people ive met that use BLM as just a social trend and to look socially likable and acceptable because "its the right thing to do" is unreal. but at this point ill take it rather than nothing at all

low epoch Dec 10, 2020, 1:21 AM

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yeah it's a point with some validity for sure

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:21 AM

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i see it too but the more BLM shirts/the more it's like a daily part of our lives, the more opportunity there is for the message to spread

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:21 AM

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if every rich white kid has a #BLM shirt but doesn't actually give a shit or do anything for the movement don't u think that drowns out the message

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:21 AM

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dapper shard the amount of people ive met that use BLM as just a social trend and to look soc...

this!!!!!

thick shore Dec 10, 2020, 1:22 AM

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idk id like to think that BLM shirt inspires someone to actually do something :')))))))))

low epoch Dec 10, 2020, 1:22 AM

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this chat is about to pop off, thank goodness, this needs to be discussed

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:22 AM

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I know so many people who are racist as shit and put #blm on their instagram bio

low epoch Dec 10, 2020, 1:22 AM

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karmic fog I know so many people who are racist as shit and put #blm on their instagram bio

this seems very rare tbh

pale coyote Dec 10, 2020, 1:22 AM

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i think donating to the cause is more noble than wearing merch

dapper shard Dec 10, 2020, 1:22 AM

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dude my ex literally told me get over being afraid of the police. proceeded to walk around with a BLM face mask and high road people who weren't parading BLM.

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:22 AM

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this one fucking dude literally posts some shit like "george floyd got what he deserved" and a day later posts the stupid black shit on his ig

thick shore Dec 10, 2020, 1:22 AM

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oof

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:22 AM

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it's a lot of people bruh

simple saffron Dec 10, 2020, 1:22 AM

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uh

dapper shard Dec 10, 2020, 1:23 AM

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i know this aint the chat for BLM talk but ive seen it a lot

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its really prevalent tbh

simple saffron Dec 10, 2020, 1:23 AM

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yeah ig some people do it to counter the social repercussions

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:23 AM

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it's not even that

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they just don't think about it

dapper shard Dec 10, 2020, 1:23 AM

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^

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:23 AM

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they actually don't realize how their behavior is bad

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:23 AM

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i mean at the end of the day companies will project a message then turn around and fuck people over. case in point: facebook supporting BLM but turning around and fucking over basically the entire U.S. by refusing to deplatform far right groups and uk the whole cambridge analytica thing

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:23 AM

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if everyone just casually wearing a BLM shirt nobody gonna stop and think about their actions

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cuz it makes everyone feel good like "oh ya I care a lot about race relations in america" and then they call the police on a black dude cause he was jogging in their neighborhiod

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:24 AM

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ohad

low epoch Dec 10, 2020, 1:24 AM

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this is all well and good, just realize there are levels people
companies like coinbase are a level of debasement and vitriol you don't want in your life

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:24 AM

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but the thing is that already happens

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everyone likes to think they're not racist, even when they are. it's like that without BLM or not, and idrt it's the best idea to say that blm tshirts cause that affect

low epoch Dec 10, 2020, 1:25 AM

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if you find that goldilocks company that supports social justice and charities and enables you to do that but is low key on the PR-side, go for it

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:25 AM

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even the PR side I think there's a huge diff between a t shirt and a message on their website or whatever

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:26 AM

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i mean companies that have BLM merch generally have both

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:26 AM

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I'm all for google publishing a statement against BLM, I just think it's fucked if they try to use that for recruiting and advertising

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what companies are there?

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I haven't seen it at all

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:26 AM

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yeah but google actually does things to help POC in stem

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:27 AM

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doesn't give them the right to advertise that

low epoch Dec 10, 2020, 1:27 AM

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they do and they don't bawbdmo

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:27 AM

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they could always do more

low epoch Dec 10, 2020, 1:27 AM

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case in point: that AI researcher getting 'fired

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'fired'

pale coyote Dec 10, 2020, 1:27 AM

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obtuse otter yeah but google actually does things to help POC in stem

if they really do its kinda pathetic only like 3% of their engineers are black lol

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:28 AM

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right

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:29 AM

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oh yeah definitely, like all corporations google def looks out for their self interest, but idk BLM being "the woke thing" is kinda what we want

quiet musk Dec 10, 2020, 1:29 AM

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BLM is kind of an interesting slogan because it is something that the vast majority of people broadly agree with (I understand that racist people exist, but most people at least do not believe they are racist), but people often disagree about the actions to take based on the statement (e.g. reform/defund police, increased opportunities for minorities, etc)

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:29 AM

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what incentive is there to support scholarships/outreach programs for women/poc in stem if it doesn't help with their PR?

low epoch Dec 10, 2020, 1:29 AM

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we hear you out but you have to realize there is some nuance, there's a subset of privileged cs majors who hear arguments like these and jump to the conclusion: "well, if all companies are the same and none of them are authentic and it's just pandering, who cares about any of this"

stiff vessel Dec 10, 2020, 1:29 AM

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just get rich and buy the govt to fix the issue

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:29 AM

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like companies seriously don't care about doing the good thing

stiff vessel Dec 10, 2020, 1:29 AM

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this is america

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:29 AM

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they really never will in america

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:30 AM

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obtuse otter what incentive is there to support scholarships/outreach programs for women/poc ...

the incentive is making the world/your company a better place

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:30 AM

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pale coyote if they really do its kinda pathetic only like 3% of their engineers are black l...

i mean im like one of 2/3 black kids in my cs class of 40+ so i don't really think that's google's fault. more like cs being hard to break into when your parents aren't coders/push you to do it as a kid thing

low epoch Dec 10, 2020, 1:31 AM

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imagine you create your startup and you're genuinely trying to figure out what your outspokenness/actions are going to be internally and on the PR side; because, idk, you have a conscience and you want to make a difference

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:31 AM

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karmic fog the incentive is making the world/your company a better place

if it provides 0 value companies don't care though that's the thing

low epoch Dec 10, 2020, 1:31 AM

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so you make your startup and get blasted for being fake

patent sluice Dec 10, 2020, 1:31 AM

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karmic fog the incentive is making the world/your company a better place

publically owned companies are legally required to have the sole goal of generating return for shareholders

low epoch Dec 10, 2020, 1:31 AM

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capitalism can fund good things, for people who are new to this idea

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:31 AM

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not contributing to global warming is infinitely "profitable" to the regular person, but all companies care about is pushing their numbers up

twilit mesa Dec 10, 2020, 1:31 AM

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what is amazon future leaders 😐

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:32 AM

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capitalism just sucks

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:32 AM

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obtuse otter if it provides 0 value companies don't care though that's the thing

that's not true tho, the company is still made up of employees and shareholders who can take action to change things because they want to (and that does happen at real companies). i 100% believe that execs at some of these companies do actually care

brazen shale Dec 10, 2020, 1:33 AM

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no

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people who care don't rise to the top

low epoch Dec 10, 2020, 1:33 AM

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ohad is saying 'at least some' care; you can claim 90% don't and you're probably right

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let's just generalize the world shall we

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i'm gonna step out, these are good topics but we've been sidetracked; too many one-liner argument stoppers/strawmans here lol

patent sluice Dec 10, 2020, 1:34 AM

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#random

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:34 AM

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karmic fog that's not true tho, the company is still made up of employees and shareholders ...

do the execs at amazon care while they fuck over their warehouse workers with unsafe conditions and terrible WLB?

patent sluice Dec 10, 2020, 1:34 AM

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you guys are too naive

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:34 AM

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patent sluice publically owned companies are legally required to have the sole goal of generat...

that's not true, they only have a duty to act in their shareholders interest. i.e. they can't purposely run their company into the ground and steal the money from the investors. they are under no legal obligation to maximize their profits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiduciary

Fiduciary

A fiduciary is a person who holds a legal or ethical relationship of trust with one or more other parties (person or group of persons). Typically, a fiduciary prudently takes care of money or other assets for another person. One party, for example, a corporate trust company or the trust department of a bank, acts in a fiduciary capacity to anoth...

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:35 AM

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obtuse otter do the execs at amazon care while they fuck over their warehouse workers with un...

not saying all companies or whatever, im saying there are at least some people who do care

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:35 AM

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def there are people that individually do care but big tech will do anything to fuck people over

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like if you need a recent example look at prop 22

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:36 AM

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bruh i mean prop22 would have made it impossible for them to operate in CA

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it just would not work as a business

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but that's totally fucking diff from this

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:36 AM

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if they can't work as a business without properly compensating their employees, should they be a business?

patent sluice Dec 10, 2020, 1:37 AM

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can we do #random

obtuse otter Dec 10, 2020, 1:37 AM

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like what's good for the business often diverges with what's good for the normal person

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oh im gonna head out. this was a good conversation tho and you brought up some really good points even if we couldn't agree ohad

karmic fog Dec 10, 2020, 1:37 AM

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obtuse otter like what's good for the business often diverges with what's good for the normal...

in that case what's good for the normal person = having uber/doordash no?

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aight

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☮️

twilit mesa Dec 10, 2020, 1:41 AM

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has anyone gotten amazon AFL?

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or done it

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@abstract wagon mind if i pm?

icy juniper Dec 10, 2020, 1:48 AM

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dud they lower the the salary for sde intern for amazon in canada

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i thought it was 8.2k not 7.2

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monkaThink

lunar burrow Dec 10, 2020, 1:50 AM

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icy juniper i thought it was 8.2k not 7.2

was always 7.2, up from 7.1 last year

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although they took away the $200 bonus for being a return intern so idfk what they're smoking

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I want my $200/mo 😧

icy juniper Dec 10, 2020, 1:51 AM

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oh really, I always thought vancouver was 8.2k

lunar burrow Dec 10, 2020, 1:51 AM

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nah it's standardized

icy juniper Dec 10, 2020, 1:51 AM

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but CAD

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so seattle interns @ 8.2 and canadians at 7.2?

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damn bro we're taking Ls here

lunar burrow Dec 10, 2020, 1:51 AM

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yeah

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sucks to be canadian

icy juniper Dec 10, 2020, 1:53 AM

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feelsbadman

lunar burrow Dec 10, 2020, 1:53 AM

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icy juniper so seattle interns @ 8.2 and canadians at 7.2?

is seattle 8.2 usd? that's crazy

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almost 1.5x the canadian pay

icy juniper Dec 10, 2020, 1:54 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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being canadian is suffering sometimes

lunar burrow Dec 10, 2020, 1:55 AM

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yeah, doubly so when you consider getting fucked by visa issues 🙃

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but oh well, you can't win everything

icy juniper Dec 10, 2020, 1:55 AM

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@lunar burrow

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are you canadian?

lunar burrow Dec 10, 2020, 1:55 AM

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icy juniper are you canadian?

unfortunately 😄

icy juniper Dec 10, 2020, 1:55 AM

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🤝

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ah so you get the struggle

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feelsbadman

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i hope i can go across the border after i grad

lunar burrow Dec 10, 2020, 1:56 AM

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you'll make it

icy juniper Dec 10, 2020, 1:56 AM

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thanks homie, i appreciate it

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are you returning to amazon this yr?

lunar burrow Dec 10, 2020, 1:57 AM

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covid makes things a bit harder tho, it's not usually as bad. plenty of companies refusing to sponsor this year