2027_summer

[green elk]

prob less

its not paywalled

and the vids are free

[swift moat]

yea i think nc doesnt have that many paying users

[vague jacinth]

does the other place pay overtime? TSLA pays 150% for overtime

[green elk]

hes prob getting yt revenue at the very least tho

[proud mauve]

Cscd members should make a new Neetcode or getcracked

Surely it'll be better than the original one

[swift moat]

yea im sure he makes a good amt from this

yt+ nc prolly makes more than getcracked

[green elk]

yeah

[echo obsidian]

the guy doesnt seem like a big spender anyways

all the videos theres like nothing on his walls

[green elk]

cj def doesnt make as much from yt

and his private community idk

is his discord server paywalled?

[echo obsidian]

private comn 💀

whats rven in there

[green elk]

im fr lol

[echo obsidian]

secret alpha?

[green elk]

i think those are the ppl that call in

[echo obsidian]

💀 💀 💀

[green elk]

and you can pay for 1 on 1s w him

[echo obsidian]

no fucking way

you have to pay to get roasted?

[green elk]

yes

the mfs who say “pls dont cook me in the title/thumbnail” paid like $50 for it

[echo obsidian]

ur lying

[green elk]

“potential to become youtube livestream moderator” 😭😭

[neat hemlock]

he posts screenshots of how getcracked is making him 60k/mo

and he just moved to fucking dubai

the guy is not poor

[green elk]

thats not what i said

[echo obsidian]

bro what

you pay to do free work

[green elk]

i just said hes not making as much as neetcode from yt alone

[echo obsidian]

?

[frosty badge]

🥀

[edgy fractal]

“Mom I need 15 dollars for the bimonthly discord calls”

[echo obsidian]

Highkey works on high schoolers tho

[frosty badge]

Coding Jesus livestream:
costs money
pretty bad representation
he’s annoying af

William dms:
free
accurate representation of work
he is the goat

🤔

[lucid apex]

I was able to negotiate to the max

the other place doesnt have overtime tho

[green elk]

youre ngmi if you cant explain the walrus operator in python

or talk about your favorite feature that was added in python 3.11

or what happens when you add two bools in c++

[vague jacinth]

sent dm

[frosty badge]

Ok some of these are just common ball

[tranquil sand]

Wtf is the walrus operator

I do not code in python lmao

[green elk]

youre ngmi if you havent read all 708 pages of Mastering Cmake

[shell oyster]

thought ts was OF

[neat hemlock]

how many tigers are ther dmn

[shell oyster]

a billion

!!

one billion tigers!!

[green elk]

he’ll prob come out w that next

[noble lion]

Basically assignment inside a conditional

[shell oyster]

coding gesus

[noble lion]

Like

         // do something with var```

Smthn like that

[green elk]

it returns the value of the assignment i think

so it should be a=b

[daring shuttle]

what happened to the og tiger

😿

[noble lion]

Wym

[green elk]

like

var := a=b

[urban ore]

it just tells u how something was created as

[noble lion]

u mean a==b?

[green elk]

oh yeah im dumb

its literally just you didnt wanna write an extra line for assignment

[urban ore]

ye lol

name is tuff

[noble lion]

I'm p sure the main purpose of it is to both simplify code and to also Allow u to take advantage of short circuiting

[green elk]

its just an attempt to be more pythonic i guess

but nobody is using ts

[noble lion]

I use it 🥀

[topaz imp]

@solid portal

[tranquil sand]

Wake the fuck up samurai

[sturdy pecan]

any java experts around

[mellow saffron]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kirby-eating-2kb

[lucid apex]

anyone know what palantir relocation looks like?

[mellow saffron]

for full time they only do reimbursement up to a certain amount

[lucid apex]

what about for internship?

[mellow saffron]

no clue

😵‍💫

[steep onyx]

3000-3500/month

[lucid apex]

Thanks!

[vivid stirrup]

How old is Coding Jesus

Posting thirst traps at 30+ is wild

[green elk]

i think 30 but i could be wrong

30 is the min, i think hes like 32 or so now

[green elk]

he lateraled into bp influencer

[opal needle]

hes at least 29

i asked during a stream

[cosmic totem]

cesspool of ngmi

[frosty badge]

LOL

why do you feel this way

[frosty badge]

87.5k == high paying?

[urban ore]

hes gone...

[frosty badge]

it doesn't matter 🥀

[marble river]

ucsb?

[frosty badge]

woah ball knower

[urban ore]

oh wtf i remember ts

quit after the first 2 hours

[swift lily]

Yo come back

[frosty badge]

you're missing out

[swift moat]

ngl i wonder this asw

[earnest rock]

Hopped back on the update is so cool

Love the riftwalker rework

[frosty badge]

i would bet my left ball nerf incoming

[earnest rock]

Prob

[frosty badge]

my crappy mage fatal build with lvl 105 is doing 600k dps

while my 20 stx architect hanaf builds are doing 300 peak dps🥀

[earnest rock]

All you gotta do is teleport through a guy and start spamming

So funny

[frosty badge]

annoying bc i was gonna buy a monster before buff

and now its like

7 stx for a decent one

[earnest rock]

stx is 64 le right

[frosty badge]

yes

[earnest rock]

yeah market trends are so wild in that game

[barren maple]

have u considerd... path of exile

[frosty badge]

should i?

is it good

[barren maple]

its like cultivation simulator but for white people

iykyk

[frosty badge]

twin i do NOT know

[barren maple]

oh like cultivation genre level of power scaling

[frosty badge]

whats that mean

[barren maple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrDuICnmqa4

[hidden shuttle]

is going to hackathons like tree hacks or cal hacks worth it for getting procs?

[barren maple]

whatever this cancer is

[frosty badge]

this looks like minecraft dungeons

[barren maple]

its just like shit exploding br

numbers go brr

[frosty badge]

interesting

[green elk]

no

[swift moat]

no lol

but good free merch

[echo obsidian]

yes u can larp

[pallid ingot]

😭

[true orbit]

They keep milking this shit

[hidden shuttle]

is it a good idea to apply to faang with C++ projects? (ik it makes sense for places like quant, roblox, nvidia but does it make sense for other big tech places if C++ isnt your strongest skill)

[dark bane]

dps the value of radix trading tc 🔥

[blazing swan]

where is infosys why is not s tier

useless list

[earnest rock]

I think having a good cpp project is rlly good

But also diversify

[hidden shuttle]

So like one ML, one C++, one Full stack/cloud, one Agentic AI?

[opal needle]

only tards rank companies

any offer is good

[dark bane]

frame mog

[true orbit]

[earnest rock]

yeah sounds good ti me

i wonder how many projects ur supposed to have on a resume

i only have 3

[mighty pike]

Work exp > projects

[frigid hawk]

Threes good but should demonstrate different things

[mighty pike]

I disagree

[frigid hawk]

Then ur objectively wrong and an idiot

[mighty pike]

Damn bro

[frigid hawk]

Sorry its how it is

NO ONE disagrees with me.

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-argue-with-me-arguing-head-bang-against-wall-over-it-headbang-gif-17203687

It's ok

[frigid hawk]

Sorry I mog you plus moneymog plus internship mog

[swift moat]

unemployment larp 🥀

[mighty pike]

We r in different field

[frigid hawk]

Dont care

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-okie-dokie-sounds-good-gif-19741335

[frigid hawk]

Probably janitor internship for ur summer

Let me know if u need a referral

Also delta upsilon at purdue is TOUSE

[mighty pike]

Lol

[earnest rock]

Ofc but let’s say you have 3 work experience how many projects would you have

[mighty pike]

Why is bro so mad

[earnest rock]

I feel like 3 is right

[mighty pike]

Just put however many projects ud be interested to talk about

[frigid hawk]

Unless ur work experience is relevant or u can spin it to be relevant on ur resume then remove it

[mighty pike]

And want to go on a very deepdive

[frigid hawk]

Unemployment speed run

[mighty pike]

In an interview

[mighty pike]

Relax buddy

Relax

[frigid hawk]

Vibecode doesnt matter

Irrelevant never bring it up in the interview as long as u can answer questions ur good

[earnest rock]

wait ur saying if i have internships i shouldnt have projects

[frigid hawk]

Always larp what they cant confirm

[earnest rock]

i thought projects were for ats farming

[frigid hawk]

Projects r separate

Put ur best two good internships and 3 projects

They get the idea after the first 2

[mighty pike]

This guy so funny lol

[frigid hawk]

Not good enough for faang

Vibe code additional functionality and learn enough to answer questions about it

Look into what libraries and tools or whatever the team ur applying for uses and implement those into ur existing projects

Then u can talk about how u made a conscious design decision to use industry relevant tools for this project to avoid it being a toy app but rather a end to end supported micro service

[true orbit]

faang overrated

[grand ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/waving-joy-lizard-hi-there-well-hello-there-gif-15622233555234689915

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-lizard-lizard-lizard-tom-the-lizard-hoppers-hoppers-pixar-gif-18247620511221215378

[frigid hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-bezos-billionaire-worker-salary-money-gif-15943309842975263544

Me walking past u

[mighty pike]

Lol

Are you happy about incoming aws?

[frigid hawk]

You notice how my number is going up much faster

[mighty pike]

Congrats btw

[frigid hawk]

Yeah why else would it be my name

IDIOT.

[mighty pike]

Lolll

[true orbit]

I’m telling ajassy about u

[dark bane]

i want chickfila

[vivid stirrup]

Ur flying too close to the sun buddy

Maybe learn how to write an if statement without AI before talking shit

[hidden heath]

Where all the JP Morgan interns at 👀

[hidden shuttle]

I put 5 and it worked well for me

[hidden shuttle]

Of course but what if you have limited work exp

[mighty pike]

Then u put projects

[hidden shuttle]

How many is too many?

[mighty pike]

How many internship do u have

[proud mauve]

It's actually insanely hard to gap him ngl

I have to endure the fact that Rock's talent gaps me so hard

[frosty badge]

more dollars than i do dps

[hidden shuttle]

2

[swift lily]

JUDA FRAME MOGS THIS SERVER

[mighty pike]

That's good enough as long as u done a lot in those internships

[hidden shuttle]

Well one is incoming so cant say much for one of them

[frigid hawk]

Thats word for word what i said before

They love hearing that

Yea

With the help of larp of course

[frigid hawk]

Ai has smoothed out talent fortunately for the untalented like me

If not to a 1:1 extent now. Then surely in the coming years

[dark bane]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-meme-patrick-patrick-star-funny-gif-9083314293866671415

[frigid hawk]

Just write it was microsoft only elaborate in the interview

They will probably think its cool

Yeah ur chill not even relevant question

U woulda been resume filtered earlier otherwise

[frigid hawk]

Icarus laughed even as he fell

[balmy gust]

Internship starts for my interns in 4 weeks 👍

[swift lily]

How many

Are you mentoring them

[balmy gust]

2

We only have 33 employees it’s a small business

[tranquil sand]

Sorry bro C1 mogs all of quant and AI 😔 AWS does not stand a chance

[balmy gust]

Yes

[shell oyster]

Holy moly orzbob

Does it come with free minecoins 🙏

[tranquil sand]

Ts is fucking aura

[vivid stirrup]

W auntie

[earnest rock]

no shouldve gotten java smh

wait does msft even work on the java version

makes sense

thats sm aura tho

[vivid stirrup]

That might be literally the coolest internship possible

[earnest rock]

since ur on performance u can eaily larp swe

[vivid stirrup]

That might beat OpenAI

[earnest rock]

yeah fr

if i got ro for minecraft i would stop recruiting ngl

[vivid stirrup]

Deadass

Telling people you worked on Minecraft is so much aura

Lowkey 10 zone

Zons

[earnest rock]

30 zons

[vivid stirrup]

Yess

[tranquil sand]

Infinite zons

[mighty pike]

Ill put at most 4/5 then.

But make sure u only put projects that you really love and passionate to talk about

[distant fox]

How does palantir proc work?

[edgy fractal]

fight to the death with your recruiter

allowed one weapon of your choosing

[robust fractal]

does google care about reneging so close to start? i am supposed to start on may 26th, going to renege tomorrow and a bit worried

[swift lily]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-twitch-twitchtv-twitch-emote-kek-gif-19085736

Try to avoid renege

[mellow saffron]

i mean prolly what u gonna do about it

realistically if u reneg a company ur goal shud be to never go back to that company

[swift lily]

[robust fractal]

might make me reconsider my decision then

i heard from someone that faang prob wont care cuz of how big they are but wanted to see if anyone had exp with it

[mellow saffron]

i mean yeah bigger companies don't tend to care

but ur prolly just gonna annoy ur host lol

[robust fractal]

hmm yea

meh it is what it is

[mellow saffron]

eod u shouldn't worry about that, u need to pick whats best for u and ur future

5 years down the line its not gonna matter that u reneged google a couple weeks before start lol

[robust fractal]

yea its js cause its a p 50/50 decision so if reneging is blacklist might tip it over

[mellow saffron]

chances are nothings even gonna come from this, just that that specific host will be annoyed w u

[robust fractal]

but ur right

[mellow saffron]

nah i doubt they blacklist, my mentality w renegging is just to expect one and to not plan on going back to that company

cuz realistically one renegs cuz they want to go somewhere better / fits them better

do whats best for you and your career

[robust fractal]

thanks yo

wait can i dm something

[mellow saffron]

shore

[swift lily]

Mythra is a beacon of light

[echo obsidian]

real advice in cscd 🟩

[mellow saffron]

sometimes i do give practical advice

if someone asks a practicla question

[swift moat]

what if i ask a neally question

[mellow saffron]

i'll send u a

and you'll send one back

business as usual

[solid portal]

Tf is wrong with yall

[dawn valve]

Bro lost trial mod

[lilac hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-nurse-chansey-nursing-another-chansey-caring-gif-12117758

[dark bane]

im cooked

[misty sluice]

does anyone have information about zon ro rates

[dawn valve]

67%

[crystal pendant]

rorates.fyi

[misty sluice]

thxx

[civic cliff]

why does it require us to submit to be able to view the rates

[crystal pendant]

not my site i got no idea

[civic cliff]

fix it bro

[mint quest]

praying 🙏

[civic cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-taxidermy-dog-gif-14593541

[mint quest]

r2 today

stomach feels like its about to drop

heart feels heavy

[crystal pendant]

lock in broski

[mint quest]

bro i stepped out of my final exam yesterday and they immediately scheduled me for today 💀 no time to prep

[noble lion]

For which

[mint quest]

tesla

i think this is last round

yo im nervous asf

this can actually make my year

💀

[noble lion]

U got ts crodie

[dark bane]

brutal frame mog

[solid portal]

Yo

[lilac hemlock]

Sup gurt

[opal needle]

bodyfat percentage mog

[tulip spruce]

are we excited for this summer chat. Who all gonna be in NYC/Bay?

[manic gulch]

how good is aws redshift compared to something like aws ec2 or sagemaker/bedrock, dynamo/documentdb, etc

[mighty pike]

@solid portal

https://tenor.com/view/pixar-disney-hoppers-lizard-wave-gif-15184704642520455338

[hidden shuttle]

Do you guys put gpa on your resume?

[tall tree]

if it'

if it's good yes

[crystal pendant]

above 3.5-3.6 yes

[crystal pendant]

visit me in dallas

[hidden shuttle]

Mines 3.54, idk if thats bad could be bad for quant

[tulip spruce]

why would any stable person willingly go to texas

[crystal pendant]

bc im jobless without going

[tulip spruce]

fair

[hidden shuttle]

Is 3.54 good?

[lilac hemlock]

@hidden shuttle refer to the above

[cold carbon]

For our boutique 0 clout tiny ahh company we had one candidate decline offer and another one renege

Is the market this good? Guys please fill me in on this

[lilac hemlock]

well you did mention its a boutique 0 clout tiny ahh company

[swift lily]

The market is great

[cold carbon]

True

But both of them have relatively ngmi resumes

[swift lily]

Good morning

[cold carbon]

Gm patrick

[lilac hemlock]

hello meesta

[swift lily]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-apple-meme-tim-cook-wow-apple-event-meme-tim-cook-meme-gif-26571525

[lilac hemlock]

grrr i need to lock in

[swift lily]

Tim cook I will miss you

Jerome Powell I will miss you

Everyone is getting replaced, not by ai, but by their successors

[hidden shuttle]

Some ppl say 3.7+

[lilac hemlock]

some people say 4.0

[hidden shuttle]

Yea so idk what to do, alot of the good resumes in the resume forum here also dont mention gpa

Im Canadian and ive heard US has some grade inflation where top schools like Stanford and Harvard inflated their grades so are like 3.8s 3.9s very common?

[lilac hemlock]

i cannot answer that for you unfrotunately

my gpa is doggy

[hidden shuttle]

Do you still get procs?

[lilac hemlock]

not crazy ones but my resume is nowhere near the same as it was even just a month ago

best i got was a fellowship's OA and a non-auto OA from visa

[swift lily]

Mito will get crazy ones for 2027

[lilac hemlock]

i hope so

:<

[elfin igloo]

does anyone know how intern culture was for interns at amazon like do they work u dry or is it chill

[queen vortex]

I still have not gotten a single oa from visa

[lilac hemlock]

🥀

i got that one by the hand of God tho idk

then they ghosted me

[granite pilot]

def depends on ur team and project

[unique basalt]

what will Amazon 3rd Hiring Manager Evaluation call be like?

[misty sluice]

rng, could be vibe check, lc or LPs

[elfin igloo]

was a vibe check for me, resume deep dive

[unique basalt]

thx!

[balmy bolt]

you'll be fine

[neat hemlock]

hello guys

oops

@balmy bolt

[urban ore]

i got 3d dp

[balmy bolt]

depends heavily on org

[neat hemlock]

AWS?

[urban ore]

am whats ur team

are u the amazon music guy

[balmy bolt]

aws non core team is usually pretty chill

[neat hemlock]

payments

[urban ore]

orz

[balmy bolt]

basically core team + customer facing are the grindiest (but ur an intern, so you likely won't work past 40 anyway)

[neat hemlock]

idk how core

payments is

[balmy bolt]

junior dev sometimes does more cuz they have actual oncalls

but regular intern is chill

[neat hemlock]

wtf

oncall as jr dev?

mfs be 18 working on call

absolutely brutal

[urban ore]

i think thats kinda normal

[neat hemlock]

bruh theres a bunch of freshman ik

who are inc jr dev

i feel bad for these kids

we used to bool together in elementary school and now they are on call

[balmy bolt]

zon as a freshman they're fine

[neat hemlock]

just go to udub

brutal

cheat code for amazon / msft

[balmy bolt]

brutal

if only i went to udub/umd

[neat hemlock]

bro

[urban ore]

i wish i went to kennesaw state

[neat hemlock]

umd is not allat

theres unironically like a solid amount offreshman incoming zon here

i think if u count the kids who got teh scholarship in hs its like 7

[urban ore]

contradicting statements ??

[neat hemlock]

i know in terms of pure just apply and get lucky its around 4

[balmy bolt]

orz

i think its 0 here

[neat hemlock]

heh

ill transfer

make it 1

type xi

[balmy bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-skeleton-shield-skeleton-meme-war-gif-17340534991599908951

[steel wind]

i think madison has the most incoming zon

[neat hemlock]

thats not true

its definetely udub

lol

[steel wind]

i see like 20 posts everyday

oh yea

[neat hemlock]

its washington

[balmy bolt]

guarantee its udub

[neat hemlock]

i think my middle school has

like

5 freshman

incoming amazon

from just my year

[balmy bolt]

aura

gmi middle school

[neat hemlock]

😹

my eleemntary school has a couple asw

feeder elementary school to faang

[balmy bolt]

like half my middle school dropped out of college p sure

[neat hemlock]

jfc hahahahaha

[balmy bolt]

or never went

and are working fast food/manufacturing/technician/trades

[balmy bolt]

aura

[urban ore]

😭

[sharp ledge]

gm @balmy bolt 🙂

[urban ore]

we have 0 zon from my highschool

[balmy bolt]

gm :))))))))

[urban ore]

brutal

[neat hemlock]

uh

my high school has

at least two

i know another guy

ill assume theres probably another one cuz there definetely is

so 3

but given our class size was 600

it comes out to being quite proportional

[urban ore]

we a cap one highschool instead

[urban ore]

our class size was likke 1k 😭

[neat hemlock]

😭

js go to high school in washington dawg

half ur school goes to udub and they all work at amazon

[urban ore]

brutal bro

[neat hemlock]

smh

[urban ore]

😭 thats crazy

mofos grinding for good highschools

im actually gappedd

[neat hemlock]

nah bro

u gap me

[elfin igloo]

yeah i hope the prime video team is chill

[opal needle]

not smth to be proud of

[neat hemlock]

im just stating a fact

[coral cedar]

it is quite chill

[limber patio]

Why?

Amazon is a feeder program

[proud mauve]

Damn I wish I were at UMD

[glacial meteor]

how do i renege an offer and return graebel relocation stipend

[proud mauve]

Ash Greninja 😳

[echo obsidian]

js dont return

🤣

in all seriousness

just renege saying you have some sort of problem that you cant do it anymore

and ask how you would return stipend

[neat hemlock]

why

[proud mauve]

To get Zon

[neat hemlock]

u dont need to go to umd to get zon

[echo obsidian]

arent u js

[proud mauve]

Actually Purdue has a bunch of ppl at Zon as well

[glacial meteor]

who exactly do i email for that tho and if i get ghosted is it wraps

[neat hemlock]

yeaaaa

lol

[proud mauve]

I'm just ngmi 🥀

[echo obsidian]

recruiter, if they ghost it’s not your problem imo

[glacial meteor]

and i j withdraw in portal right

[echo obsidian]

i’d just follow up every wk or so and you have it all on email

yeah

[pastel mulch]

zon hc is 11k

[proud mauve]

💀

[proud mauve]

That's insane

I'm not one of those 11k ppl

[green elk]

is that more or less than previous years

[worthy palm]

11k interns is actually insane

[worthy palm]

"in line with previous years"

[green elk]

so why are yall acting surprised then

[worthy palm]

its not surprising that its different its just i didnt realize they do 11k in the first place

like thats just a heck ton of interns for one company mane

clearly not

i think ppl just like to doom

worst hiring season was prob like 2023 or 2024, its actually gotten a bit better the last couple years

[urban ore]

i think last year it was like 20k or something

zonners

[green elk]

nah it is def lower this year

compared to last year

[worthy palm]

i think thats total including offseason, not just summer

[urban ore]

oh ye thats prob true

[green elk]

isnt the 11k also including offseason

[worthy palm]

oh actually u might be right

u can google it tho

in 2025, there was 19800 interns

[green elk]

fwiw there were significantly more zon offers reported here last year than this year

[mellow saffron]

they had 19.8k last year

[green elk]

like by an order of magnitude

[true orbit]

The fuck 11k

That has to be global right

[mellow saffron]

not all are swe

and yes

[true orbit]

it says 11k swe

[mellow saffron]

💀

[true orbit]

I guess like more than half of interns being swe makes sense

[mellow saffron]

amazon saving lives yet again i suppose

[true orbit]

so like last year 20k probably more than 11k swe even

[scenic oyster]

hopefully they hire ng next year

[urban ore]

hopefully zon hc next year is 30

[queen vortex]

The 11k includes ft

[urban ore]

#makezonprestigousagain

[true orbit]

zon was never prestigious

[queen vortex]

Where

Article i read said combined

[green elk]

11k swe interns

not ft

[scenic oyster]

pls no

[worthy palm]

ppl out here larping like this

but its just normal cscd delusion

[green elk]

i wonder how many are in the US tho

[worthy palm]

zon is like def a top 10% outcome

[scenic oyster]

not even that

higher

[worthy palm]

but then we have a bunch of ppl here trying to be the top 0.1%

[worthy palm]

yeah potentially

[green elk]

depends on org

[worthy palm]

im not saying this so that people stop trying to get what they want but just saying realistically like any faang or equivalent job is probably in the top 5% or so of outcomes

[crystal pendant]

11k no way

[green elk]

zon isnt top tho

[worthy palm]

100k for cs grads seems low

[scenic oyster]

thats just cs tho theres other people in tech

im not cs

[worthy palm]

but u gotto also add the computer engineering grads too

and those in like other adjacent majors trying to be SWEs and stuff

[green elk]

hell even EE, math, etc

no

they apply to swe

[scenic oyster]

im math lmao

[crystal pendant]

here ✋

[worthy palm]

i guess we could probably just say

i mean its a very rough estimate but

[green elk]

faang+ > zon

[worthy palm]

lets just say there are like 150k ish people per year tryna be SWEs

is that reasonable

[green elk]

its just a paradigm

[crystal pendant]

yo gurt

[green elk]

anything >1 zons

[scenic oyster]

db stripe stuff like that

[worthy palm]

wait wait wait

we also need to consider

[green elk]

its prob alot more tbh

[worthy palm]

unemployed people from the last year also applying

[green elk]

when you consider internationals, mscs people

[worthy palm]

and people internationally applying

[scenic oyster]

and bootcampers still

[worthy palm]

so then it becomes a way larger pool

[scenic oyster]

why not

[worthy palm]

ok that doesnt really make sense tho because they arent going for swe jobs

[crystal pendant]

so excited for summer. really just exhausted with school. hbu

[scenic oyster]

bioeng is tuff

[worthy palm]

we are just discussing people going for swe basically

[queen vortex]

fat cat

[worthy palm]

but yeah id say faang is like probably top 5-10 % and then something like quant is probably under 1% of people

if I had to guess

its just being realistic

[green elk]

thats not what hes saying

[worthy palm]

no, like i wouldnt include ALL math majors, Im just trying to approximate how many people are going into SWE

ya

[crystal pendant]

dude my friend is like ghosting my friend group rn and we have no idea why

[worthy palm]

yeah also i dont even mean the actual acronym really i just mean that type of company

big tech

not really

[scenic oyster]

no

[green elk]

vibes

[scenic oyster]

aura

[worthy palm]

the crappy tier lists made here

[green elk]

no

[worthy palm]

id consider it a big tech company for sure that is a pretty good outcome

[green elk]

oracle like 0.8 zon

[queen vortex]

Zon is the barometer?

[worthy palm]

ya true

[green elk]

its the SI unit of prestige

[queen vortex]

Fungible gmi

[worthy palm]

just a heads up, this conversation started with me saying that zon is actually a very good outcome overall and people clown on it too much but honestly its a lot better than many other things that could happen

[crystal pendant]

11k is insanew

bro i thought that was larp

[true orbit]

I was memeing anyway 2 years ago woulda jizzed at the thought of Amazon ng

[green elk]

im curious how much of the 11k is US tho

[queen vortex]

Is it global hiring or auta

In context not that many if global

[green elk]

majority of the 11k might be india

[hidden shuttle]

gonna be 22k next year

[true orbit]

It’s def global no way they have 11k USA sde interns

[crystal pendant]

fuck

[true orbit]

it was like 4.5k last year

[queen vortex]

I thought cloud growth slow asf rn

[distant arch]

Worst argument maybe ever had

[true orbit]

how many do msft Google have

[distant arch]

Google is hiring a lot this year funnily enough

[true orbit]

2k sde interns in the us??

swe

[worthy palm]

idk how accurate this is but i just asked gemini "how many interns does each faang hire per year"

[crystal pendant]

nftlix

son

[worthy palm]

i specified engineering*

[opal needle]

damn wtf

netflix rare

[true orbit]

damn Netflix has that many?

[crystal pendant]

now check how many GAYMAN hires

[green elk]

how much did oai take

[worthy palm]

i asked it to add microsoft and it said 4000-4500

[true orbit]

yeah Db big

probably over 400 ng

damn

[opal needle]

amazon hiring to fire lol

[true orbit]

bro why does Amazon need so many

Do they employ a lot more or is it just attrition

[worthy palm]

what is amazon RO

rate

[swift moat]

hello

[hidden shuttle]

discounted labour

[worthy palm]

do they hire a bunch but only keep a certain number

[true orbit]

Pretty high

[green elk]

60-70%

[worthy palm]

or maybe they just hire lots cause they have high turnover so they consistently need to hire

they also just have the most engineers total i think

[true orbit]

Yeah that’s what I’m thinking

no way it’s cause of their actual hc just being so much bigger

[crystal pendant]

they just also fire the most too

plus bloat

u forget that

[coral cedar]

like 80ish for summer i think

[true orbit]

I meant just sde specifically cause they have way more interns than the other FAANG still

Nah cause Amazon has a lot more real world operations stuff

but even excluding that they have way more interns

[green elk]

yeah thats true, zon has alot of BI/data interns

[true orbit]

ig Apple might have a lot but still nowhere near Amazon size

Google meta basically just software

[green elk]

are there any namis on the horizon for next year

[true orbit]

anthropicnami

[green elk]

oainami

and ibmnami

[true orbit]

dbnami

[coral cedar]

isnt salesforce hiring like 1000 ng/interns

[green elk]

i thought this was mostly non swe tho

[floral garnet]

for everyone that got zon offer, did it take 5 business days usually or exaclty? and if takes longer are you cooked

[true orbit]

bloombergnami

[worthy palm]

this is total staff

[green elk]

nah sometimes it takes longer

[coral cedar]

idk tbh

[true orbit]

what the fuck does Amazon need 200k engineers for

[worthy palm]

yeah kinda insane how many people work for zon

[green elk]

when i looked it up i got this

[verbal sonnet]

holy rip

india outsourcing is insane

[worthy palm]

ive also seen around 25k in some sources for apple so im not sure which is right

[narrow sierra]

200k doing what

[worthy palm]

idk mane

[narrow sierra]

seems like they'd be fine w like

way less

[green elk]

is the left column on yours just US engineers?

[worthy palm]

maybe if u include HWEs and stuff, im not sure all those are SWEs

[worthy palm]

i think everyone that is engineering and R&D, but then the right column is everyone (for example warehouse workers for amazon, sales people for apple, show directors for netflix, marketing, etc.)

[green elk]

TCS 😭

[verbal sonnet]

I don't think this is right btw, I remember some auta person at a conference mentioned theyhave around 50k sde

[opal needle]

amazon keeping this nation running fr

[true orbit]

United States of Amazon

[lilac hemlock]

stripe? you sure

i know it was salesforcenami

maybe im just bgmi (barely gonna make it)

[crystal pendant]

wont even respond to my texts

[solid portal]

Yo

[solid portal]

Wow

[swift moat]

@mellow saffron

[manic fable]

anyone did or know someone who did xai onsite anytime the past 2 weeks?

[proud mauve]

Zon hires so many lmao

It just didn't hire me

🥀

[true orbit]

No one here is gmi enough for xai

[hidden shuttle]

Dw you getting meta this cycle

[proud mauve]

How bro

I'm not prev 😭

[hidden shuttle]

Meta screen is light too

[fast holly]

https://www.reuters.com/world/jane-streets-40-billion-trading-haul-tops-rivals-sources-say-2026-04-24/

wtf

[proud mauve]

I didn't get pass screen this cycle as well

[austere path]

isnt this already known?

[swift moat]

how is your month going

[swift moat]

they filed ipo too btw

[austere path]

who?

js😂 ?

[swift moat]

nah im js trolling

morning troll

[mellow saffron]

caitlin caitlin caitlin

😂

[storm pelican]

guantanamo bay couldn't get this information out of me

have some shame, being the community pocket pussy isnt a flex

[opal needle]

🥀

[manic fable]

??

[long geode]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-what-am-i-reading-what-am-i-looking-at-guy-looking-at-paper-jimmy-butler-looking-at-paper-gif-10656430272991200421

[opal needle]

can i get a tldr bro

what happened

[true orbit]

This is the craziest message I’ve seen in here

[swift moat]

oh nice

u can't order it?

[solar notch]

drama in cscd!

[proud mauve]

Oh woah I haven't had that in a while

[solar notch]

i hate drama

wait

Idrama

[proud mauve]

West Lafayette is such a bad place 😭

[cold junco]

@solar notch Im going to mut e u

[swift moat]

WE all trynna go there

[gaunt goblet]

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[solar notch]

awwwww mannnnnnnnnn

plssss

[gaunt goblet]

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[solar notch]

https://tenor.com/view/angai313-spongebob-sad-spongebob-crying-gif-21679826

[gaunt goblet]

ilv01 muted tentor for 10 minutes. Reason: None

[cold junco]

@solar notch 😹 😹 😹

[swift moat]

what did bro do 😢

[frank hornet]

west laf is tuff bro wdym

[mellow saffron]

i’m just a helpful person

[opal needle]

muted for no reason omg

[mellow saffron]

😁

[fast holly]

☠️

probably top 5 craziest messages i've read in this dc LLOL

[swift moat]

what if we larp in lafayette

[tame edge]

in new york you can larp a new man

[vivid stirrup]

you're not larping hard enough

[swift moat]

yooo 😹

bro got called out on the spot

never seen that b4

[fast holly]

we need to land js

[dawn valve]

surprised bro hasn’t deleted his comment 😭

[fast holly]

wait in theory

if they drop their applications in july

and im still prepping

should i wait to apply or no

like what if i apply and they want to interview 2 weeks later

[dawn valve]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-an-iq-too-high-an-iq-too-low-smart-dumb-gif-8165603809975699407

[swift moat]

so u can but bar typically gets higher as season continues

[fast holly]

okok

i just wanna be a chud that makes 500k tc

[autumn gulch]

can you buy me robux when you do

[fast holly]

only if ur making 200k+

[tame edge]

buying robux is lowkey 600k tc activities

[ionic apex]

it will never be enough lowk

ur gonna want the next thing

[tame edge]

i'm not sure js people can afford robux

[dawn valve]

Na 500k sounds pretty good

[fast holly]

i have realized this

but i think 500k would truly be the end

[solar notch]

cap

[ionic apex]

im not saying its not good

[dawn valve]

Na I mean like u won’t be that hungry for more

[tame edge]

how do you leave the rat race

[ionic apex]

ye im saying its cap lowk

[fast holly]

im happy for a day whenever i get any offer and then i start comparing to stuff that's better

[ionic apex]

u prlly will

[fast holly]

but once i get 500k itll be the end trust

[tame edge]

wait same

[dawn valve]

Frank niu stopped at 500🤔

[tame edge]

whats the cure for the rat race

[dawn valve]

That means it’s the end

[autumn gulch]

you dont bro. you'll be envious of your boss that makes 7 figures when you're only making 500k

[ionic apex]

what does he do now

[dawn valve]

Chud max

Takes care of kids pretty much I think

[swift moat]

but once u can live comfortably a lot of ppl no longer care to grind

[autumn gulch]

that's true. i personally think the grindset is pretty toxic, but it's necessary when you're still in uni or a new grad

[solar notch]

icl im just trying to grind for like 7 or so years and then chudmax and have kids

[tame edge]

it's interesting that there's almost no firms between ~60/hr and ~200+/hr

[fast holly]

yeah same im p much checking out a good bit once i hit unc 30 yo

[scenic oyster]

i know people in this server dont like living frugally but if 500k is so much money if u lock in w saving

[swift moat]

im chudmaxxing for life

[scenic oyster]

u can definitenly invest a ton and set up some passive income streams

[swift moat]

for a single person it's great

[autumn gulch]

plenty of people get by with just $60k/yr 😂

[scenic oyster]

yeah thats the caveat if u have 9 kids ur cooked

[autumn gulch]

but this server tends to gravitate toward high achievers

[fast holly]

ur partner def making at least 100-200k if ur making 500k ngl

so hhi is 700k

which is chilling

[tame edge]

neurosurgeon wife lowkenuinely mkaing 1.7m

[ionic apex]

in hcol?

like sf/nyc

[scenic oyster]

500k is enough to live anywhere bro

[swift moat]

ngl in nyc might be hard with kids to do all the things u want

[fast holly]

yes

[swift moat]

same w sf

[cursive stream]

It wouldn’t be

[fast holly]

nyc if manhattan yes its hard

queens prob chilling

[swift moat]

just look at the henry subreddit

plenty of ppl in that range

ur not living like a king lol

not even close

[ionic apex]

bros on 800k

[fast holly]

700 is 450k after taxes if u file jointly which u will

[swift moat]

takes too long to list just look at one henry post

goes quick when u have kids

[fast holly]

if u each contribute 23k to ur 401k tho, ur take home is 421k with 46k already contributed

[swift moat]

r/henry

[true orbit]

High earner not rich yet

[scenic oyster]

these guys need new car new gucci belt new everything every year ig

[cursive stream]

I’m just saying no matter how much u make (even if you pick some arbitrary number now) you’ll see people around you making more and naturally want to keep growing ur comp

[dawn valve]

we cs majors bro😂✌🏾

[true orbit]

I feel like henry overlaps w fire a lot though

[swift moat]

yea being single is cheat code

[cursive stream]

You don’t need to be unsatisfied with ur current pay to want more though

[swift moat]

natural progression

[ionic apex]

ye ngl b4 coming here i thought 80-120k was good

cscd changed my entire trajectory

[true orbit]

lowkry yeah i would’ve Been happy with 120k tc before cscd

[scenic oyster]

guys why cant i save money?? (takes out 300k autoloan)

[autumn gulch]

same. tbf, i grew up poor and the highest earner i knew was my uncle with a tc of $150k

[swift moat]

nah it's highkey just school + extracurriculars + nice home/apartment + eating and vacationing well

[opal needle]

discussing tc again

brings tears of joy to my eyes

[swift moat]

400k hhi? no

[scenic oyster]

gotta be lifestyle inflation, you can afford all of this

[swift moat]

math issue

numbers dont add up

[true orbit]

400k pre or post tax

[swift moat]

gotta sacrifice smth at that level

[opal needle]

ye now u must switch up on everyone you know making less than 200k

[swift moat]

pre

[scenic oyster]

bru

[fast holly]

750k, 460k after tax + 46k to 401k, 193,000 spend

Total spending:

• 52,000 (rent)
• 30,000 (food)
• 6,000 (gifts)
• 15,000 (personal/health)
• 25,000 (EOY travel fund)
• 10,000 (transit)
• 20,000 (dates, shopping, fun)
• 40,000 (kids)

52 + 30 + 6 + 15 + 25 + 10 + 15 + 40  = 193

401k (1): 23k
MGBDR (1): 47k
401k (2): 23k
Brokerage: 220k
401k matches: 50% each -> 23.5k total.

total invested: 336.5k

---

what more do u need?

[opal needle]

💀

[proud mauve]

How to chud max

[swift moat]

fun category is usually higher and kids is much higher

dyk how expensive childcare is?

[ionic apex]

do u have a neat google calendar

[autumn gulch]

lmao nah. im starting in defense so i'll prob cap at around $150k unless i pivot

[fast holly]

yes

[scenic oyster]

gang stop spending more than 20k on shopping and 6k for gifts

[swift moat]

one nanny is like 70k min

[scenic oyster]

30 food is also crazy

[opal needle]

pivot now

[swift moat]

which u need with two working parents

[opal needle]

150k is not enough

[scenic oyster]

nanny LMAO

[fast holly]

increase spending by another 50k. still invesitng 280k/yr

[scenic oyster]

bro raise yo kids

[swift moat]

ur gonna leave ur 2yo home alone?

[true orbit]

daycare

[swift moat]

daycare is insanely expensive lol

[scenic oyster]

just get remote job

[opal needle]

bro nanny 🥀

[scenic oyster]

or use grandparents method

[opal needle]

grandparents method unpatched

[scenic oyster]

i WILL be using grandparents method

[true orbit]

same

[fast holly]

u can hit 750k hhi in tech if ur partner is in tech as well once u have like 6 yoe

[scenic oyster]

miss me with paying for a nanny

[swift moat]

good daycare where ur kid is acc learning and not bumming around for 8 hours while someone watches tv is expensive

[opal needle]

this can be like 1mil+ at meta

or smth

[true orbit]

also I mean u don’t need 330k investments lol

U can scale back if u need to

[scenic oyster]

my parents can teach my kids bro theyre not npcs

[fast holly]

yeah, not much difff between investing 250k vs 300k lol

[proud mauve]

So what is the TC one needs to live comfortably

[swift moat]

not everyone can do this obv lol

[opal needle]

500k

[swift moat]

gotta be ragebait

[scenic oyster]

depends on where u live

[jade shard]

I want my kids to grow up bilingual

[proud mauve]

Prob some suburb Ig

[scenic oyster]

hop on grandparents method

[opal needle]

u have to put them onto the educational documentaries not fucking cocomelon lmfao

that shit important

[proud mauve]

Ig I'll never be able to live comfortably 🥀

[opal needle]

u gotta prime their brain so they grow up to be locked in scientists or sum

[swift moat]

everything? language, math, pattern recognition, athletics?

[scenic oyster]

depends on bay suburb vs ohio suburb

[proud mauve]

NYC 💀

Idek if that exists

[scenic oyster]

idk ur cooked then ig

[jade shard]

They live far & unfortunately likely will not be around

[opal needle]

neuroplasticity is insanely high before like age 10 or sum

lock in

[true orbit]

gemini saying high end daycare in like nyc bay is ~4k per month that’s still super doable on that breakdown

[scenic oyster]

in laws method

marry someone younger than u

[swift moat]

comfortably is too broad min wage can be comfortable if u consider just having a room and food

[scenic oyster]

lock in on looksmaxxing

[opal needle]

bro thats how u have an average kid

u gotta get them ahead

[swift moat]

not before like 5yo

[tame edge]

idk if intelligence can really be changed much by early environment

[jade shard]

Idk I’d like to try to speak both English and French to my kids but there’s a pt when i won’t be able to speak french at the level beeded

[tame edge]

other than doing basic stuff like not murdering the child

[swift moat]

it absolutely can

[opal needle]

bro like children arent dumb

children are insanely smart or will have insane potential with the correct guidance

no cocomelon slop dog

[tame edge]

yes but i would expect severe diminshing returns after common sense level behaviors

ok i agree with that

[proud mauve]

I'm just chudding out all day

[opal needle]

they need to produce their own wealth

[swift moat]

even if ur kid is not super naturally gifted u can fix it by putting them on the right trajectory

[tame edge]

my child must find their own alpha

[proud mauve]

Is this how Usamo kids are created

[fast holly]

yes

[opal needle]

pretty sure lol, if ur parents put u onto shit like AOPS before 3rd grade

u were tapped in

[scenic oyster]

facts im hopping on crispr method

[fast holly]

a lot of usamo etc winners their parents are professors or well off

[scenic oyster]

gene editing

[proud mauve]

Those ppl were on the grind since primary school 😭

[swift moat]

im starting the white room after retiring

[proud mauve]

Lmao

[opal needle]

a lot is possible with post birth guidance lol u dont need genetic modifications

[opal needle]

yes bro

[scenic oyster]

true but u can make it out the mud, i went to a low income hs and my parents arent wealthy but still managed to get into some good schools

[swift moat]

biggest lesson from looking at development cycles is u gotta start early

the later in life u lock in the harder it is to be gmi

[fast holly]

yeah same

but harder obv

[scenic oyster]

ts is true though

[proud mauve]

It's over for me

[tame edge]

i think this is exaggerated i locked in like junior yr of hs and did fine

[scenic oyster]

bro i wasnt locked in till jr yr of college

ur not fried

[opal needle]

send to dagestan 2-3 years forget

[proud mauve]

😭

[fast holly]

which tech job can u work for a chill-er life and 400k tc

[swift moat]

did fine is diff from making sure your kid has an exceptional outcome

[opal needle]

dude junior year is not late by any means

yeah

exactly

just be a senior at faang

brutal

[frank hornet]

just buy cluely or smth

[flat quail]

imo late is anything after college

[scenic oyster]

for faang senior -> staff is hardest jump right? i hear most ppl get stuck senior

[proud mauve]

Tru

[opal needle]

yes

true

[tame edge]

i think most people would consider my result an 'exceptional outcome'

[flat quail]

since at that point you're still pretty young

[proud mauve]

AI is too smart now anyway

[fast holly]

is faang staff stressful?

[opal needle]

senior to staff requires a lot of things outside ur control

like the right mentor

right project

etc

[fast holly]

like does ur wlb get tanked