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true, lets see, it would be nice to get shopify nyc, idk if they'll even consider me for that
if u have work auth id just apply us
i made 2 emails, applied to US with one and applied to canada with the otehr
Are you in the mtl office?
maybe dont do that
moer than likely theyll realize its u twice
or do idk
prolly not that deep
they might ask why just say u have work auth in both
why would someone willingly go work in Canada?
How’s the Canadian job market so far
Damm
priase the lord i am going to mpk after i grad
Mpk?
pretty good for me, i got a descent amount of procs this cycle
menlo park
Very nice
hello fellow ngmis
Did a quick search on LinkedIn seems like either the postings aren’t out yet or it’s very little

Are you from a non Quebec school?
uoft
Huh?
💀 isnt that the best canadian school
Huh what
From my understanding there’s a good amount of Quebec companies that only hires Quebec kids no?
Back in my day that’s how it was
OPENAI SAYS THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PAY COMMITMENTS, MISS ON EARNINGS
Yeah but as soon as you put 1 foot in Quebec your salary gets divided by 16 + you pay more taxes
Stonk down gg
Right…
Taxes

It’s ok
ngmimaxxing
For what ?
They don’t…?
Idk Amazon barely took any external ng this year in Canada for example
Companies are reducing a lot hc for ng
no
its not ai affecting ng
yes
its just companies taking interns over ng
ro pilled
Ah so that’s the new strat?
Hmmm not really
Yeah
Damm
yea
Romaxxing
ropilled + romaxxing
It has been quite dry on LinkedIn and other job sites
For Canada
Not sure about states
Hopefully it gets better
are you loo
Back in my time I did around 9 coops lmao
it'll get better when you have 2-3 years of exp
oh this guys full time
lo
Someone I know did Dropbox , DoorDash and datadog twice
9 co ops is crazy
Lol
In Canada ?
wait 9 co ops
2-3 years brother they sending u to the fuel generators for claude at that point
Laurier kid yeah
When did you grad?
Well
Uhmm
This is embarrassing but I haven’t
Lol
I pushed my convo
how much then
Because I had some situation at hand
hi
where are u ft now
I mean it does make sense with 9 coops 😭
u want a frl answer?
yepp
One of the F300
Been FT for 2 years now
bro.......
if ure one of the
"top 5%"
you are fine
u feel no difference from 2022
i think
go to mit
companies are still willing to fight for "top talent"
😂
but anyone below is not having fun tbh
is zon top 5%

ur company doesnt define if you are "top 5%"
It’s oki
there are ngmis everywhere
if u r actually good at ur job u will be fine
being top 5 is all about aura
there r plenty of bums at meta
are you sure?
or at zon
No lol
Debatable
Actually rng
what if I’m bad at my job but at a top company
then maybe u r bad at ur job 🤷
then evnetually u will get managed out lol
actually
Depends you could hit all kpis and lay off could happen and ur cooked
thats not even really true these days
maybe ur manager likes u and saves u from a pip
who knows
all that matters is school name + prev company names
if ur bad at ur job it doesnt matter cuz claude can do it for you
Is Waterloo still best school in Canada
What if my company banned claude
With waterworks as cheat code
ya not even close
yeah i think so
I heard wlworks sucks now
lol
then ur company is ngmi
True
We only use deepseek
We should all strive to be nepo babies ngl
Yes I agree
new alpha dropped
no
yo orz play minecraft ?
we are all gender studies here
Who is this 💀
Some of us won’t
yooo
Laurier lol
Wdym by target?
like a target company
For Canada I guess it’s a recognizable name ?
oh alr i was just curious
It’s a really chill place tho
ik a guy whos ft there
Yeah they’re nice people
in montreal i think
I had interviews with them
You’re from mtl?
Good
why lol
I’m doing anti Montreal propaganda
Great question, I might have unjustified hatred against it thinking about it
isnt mtl just like budget paris
Aren’t u knight
The problem is that it’s in Quebec
whats wrong with quebec
Mila and Shopify single handedly carry Montreal
oh is shop hq in Montreal
High taxes + too many annoying laws + you always get lowballed for offers
is it true hospitals can’t speak English in Quebec or something
damn
lowk i just looked up desjardin ft salary
It depends but they push French way too much
seems pretty low
Any interns joining IMC Trading for the summer, I am looking for a place to sublease in the same area?
unless canada col is just alot lower
It is, especially in mtl
try the location channels
How much was ft?
They offered me 28 when I interviewed with them for intern
like 60k CAD for entry level
Which is above the average for mtl I think
and 80-90k CAD for senior
Classic Montreal
is col there really that low
Kpmg pays like 65k for entry level
Lower than Toronto and Vancouver for sure
desjardin
This is tragic
Still very low
Yeah but col is different
Really different
Sorry my brain lagged
Huh?
I just came back from that place and I can assure you it ain’t cheap
mfkers stole 13k from me
and i cant even go see a doc
i cant wait to leave this awful palce
@civic cliff is saying that the col is much lower there
not even hating but depending on col 54k is unlivable
Brain lag
like nyc its wraps but arkansas ur chilling
is there any USA col where this is livable
Yeah that’s why Shopify in Montreal is really good
its not bubble bro
R they letting u start at e4
Except the 56% tax you get smacked with at the end of the year
what
whats funny is in AR walmart will you pay you like 2-3x that starting
50k is my monthly doordash budget 😭
meta
Can prob buy a house in Alberta with 400K
average loo outcome
We’re talking about a city where 2bedrooms apartments are 800 cad
wdym
holy
Can’t you do this in most places?
im moving to AR and being walmart employee
let me check that rq
theyre not
i live in a 2b2b
weren’t u tryna get upleveled to e34
Not in gta
my rent is 2250
e4
You’re in downtown surely
no
nah i agree probably good in canada, but this guy says its a bubble
oh
yeah im going to try
but i doubt they will
ill be senior in october but
i doubt meta wil lcarethat much
You’re getting scammed 💀
My rent is < 1,000 @urban ore
venezuelan bolivare
bro i never said ts
@scenic oyster not sure how accurate this is but its def like 90k floor
holy i want walmart
woah
48k o something
US is just that much more expensive
Yeah bro it is a bubble, some people here will say 200k for ng is trash
ok those ppl r in a bubble then
its alright, i think costco has a better rep for retail tech
200k is great
200k is great
180k is hard though
ight bro
plus, nobody really wants to move to arkansas
220k is tuff too
i want to move to AR
living like a king fr
Walmart?
113k in AR is def more purchasing power than 200k in sf
lowkey i think bentonville real estate/col is a bubble
nah like its def still lcol
bro this is so cap
Would yall consider other countries besides states and Canada
but the town is completely dominated by walmart
Somewhere like Singapore Malaysia maybe
yes
deepseek
Switzerland, Japan, Ireland and uhh
cap
Japan? Dang
on an income of 160k cad
its not cap
Switzerland
im moving to rural kyrgyzstan to be a goat herder
Fhsa rrsp
Yeah
That’s fire can I join?
ye
khazakstan got all the baddies
cscd when no 600k tc to afford daily slop bowl delivery
yes
contingent on u needing to pay mortgage
200k if ur single is so liveable
u dont actually have a lot of savings
give up on a house
200k is livable but it’s like poverty
its not poverty
Damm
Most people don’t have savings
doesnt CA also tax you to hell
u guys are actually spending so badly if 200k is poverty
they do
200K is poverty Holay
That’s why this server is a bubble
Guess I’m dirt broke tf
ts is true tho
🥀
as long as u dont own a home or be in a relationship or go on dates 200k is solid in nyc/sf
bro im moving to washington seattle
150k in texas = 300k in cali
How is 200k in Memphis
what if youre dating a gmi
edge case
what if she running the ebt method for us
If only it were that easy
kevin was spitting facts
Stay single
dangit
roi on looksmaxxing might be the move
to be successful u can js find a successful partner
How are you going to get em abgs then
so true
over for us poors
backup plan
bro the cut is so painful
gen over
we r all following kevin method
yessir
hopping on reta soon
Kevin was onto something tho
W
juliana is gmi
if ur a guy and pay for most things tho ur paycheck will run dry
if relationship is equitable then high roi
atp just be single
I mean it depends on how demanding your girl is
Is wife making more than you optimal
for sure lol
one date in nyc/sf is like $100 min
id rather her make more than me than less
sugar mommy for best roi 🥰

Aight but like
Walk at the park is free
js take her to mcdonalds vro ✌️
Bbt is $7
if u find someone in vhcol okay with that then god has shined upon u
realest shit
also @opal needle south bay and other parts r so diff
Make some sandwich at home $3 and then buy her bbt and go to a nice park and chill
ye im south bay
Max $12
i do agree i think south bay 200k is rough
its fucked
if u pay mortage ur literally paycheck to paycheck on 200k
“Okay” with that as if it was a punishment 😭
i mean hes right tho
200k is pretty good in Memphis though
hcol = high maintenance
i mean u dont gotta buy all designer everything
picnic method not patched yet btw
whats memphis
u wont get a house tho i agree w that
u cant buy designer anything
i want mcdonalds
It’s a city in Tennessee
That’s what I’m saying
what kind of a relationship are u in then if u cant offer a house
That’s the real alpha
ur shopping kirkland signature every time
tennis knee? ow
what are they datinf u for
Are you guys only surrounded by sharks or what? 😭
Burp usually speaking facts but idk about that
bro this is dangerous, as cs majors touching grass will delete u from existence

bro thinks the park is gonna fly in vhcol
i mean no but where yall gon live
not w the parents bro
Appartement
i live on the streets
Like the rest of Americans
picnic is not necessarily low effort
apartment is not high roi
i dont even y this is true
You can come to my place
it is def true if u want any meaningful savings
how, if u make 200k i think u take home around 120-135k post tax
after rent groceries and investments what money do u have
How much
rent like 4k (it should be lower than this but lets assume ur balling)
u can definitely live off of 3k a month and save the rest
Isn’t rent coming down and real estate cooling in Canada
Or is Quebec still high
2$ and a sandwich
ngl u gotta date a fellow cs major to even stay afloat, pool together incomes
Slowly but surely I guess
200k is cooked

Date people outside of CS
Trust
Ofc they do
high finance
not for a while at least
Land developers
doctor
They make tons
bro
just date sugar mama smh
kevin method
Lawyers

a new grad swe is NOT pulling a doctor
Doctors
Explosive engineer
find neurosurgeon wife
Why not?
Ngmi
You’re an alien?
🥀
Not with that attitude
that why u gotta looksmaxx
maybe u arent
Yeah you’re not pulling a doctor for sure
A nurse is a different story

u invest into a premed
its over
this is fine
Yup.
roi is gonna go crazy
ye thats what i mean
😭 ong
bro ts like a 12 year long investment
can we name this chiz method
if a ng swe can pull doctor thats like max possible tc bruh
😭 chiz method is crazy
what school?
You like geese, Nein?
100k is like p good nurse ng outcome
There’s lore behind it
W
Where I’m from, there’s lots of Canadian geese
ngl just bag a quant
They are very aggressive
🔥
yeah this is the method
i think in sf u can make 150k
as a nurse
I was on the way to my exam and a goose blocked my way and I had to walk a whole ass block around it to get to my exam and another one starting chasing me by the time I get to my exam I was so late, still aced it though
You were saying 200k was bad 🤔
So I named account to Honqed as tribute to that
W I guess

i hope my future wife tc mogs me
100k on top of 200k isnt
Geese are elegant you could say
yea bay has best income afaik but v competitive to get the best positions that pay 150+ ng
Canadian Geese are not
lol
and then u wake up
They have teeth on their tongues
They will hiss at you
And I got snapped by one
And bite your finger off
It does hurt
True
Most people will never get to that
Wth does this even mean 😭😭
We all will trust
In Canada ?
Or just go fuck it and master degree in Waterloo Yk
Yeah?
Oh I meant 300k
the party that makes more pays for more things
But a few years in 150K very doable
so yeah
I’m unsure if this is the method tbh
ye also if u split an apt and other random expenses it'll be unequal split
You will be surprise
You’re a visionary
ur basically subsidizing atp
subsidizing 🥀
Know a dude who couldn’t get any jobs and went into uw for masters and then went to citadel for quant post grad

changed his fate 🔥
W come up
as a quant u have no life tho
That could be you
Naw
Think about it
nah this is mad exaggerated
I just chill and vibe
Are you a full timer?
Yup
We’re not even quants and we have no life
so true
We’re chronically online
Well well well
You’re in Toronto?
UofT is tuff
Yes
the 6ix is tuff
Drake lives there
I work by the financial district
Iceman
Across tsx
iceman
No wayyy
I’ll be interning there this summer
W
have u ever driven by drake's house
No
6ix god
Really?
No
He owns the rapters
2 2s my word fam
OvO is tuff
if anyone can refer me I would like to intern there
dees bredren don kno bruv
You work at OvO?
What’s ovo?
Drakes brand
October’s Very Own
OvO > zon
real ones interning at OvO
This might be tuff
tc = 200$ / hr
Better than radix?...
you know what guys
i was wrong about cscd
the finance version of this server is infinitely worse
Apple or Amazon
at least people here can read a little bit
LinkedIn or Doordash
LinkedIn over doordash?
It can’t be that bad
Really?
wer're talking about swe intern salaries
and this guy goes
yea 90 is normal for roblox
doordash driver is better
Yea Amazon pays 103
like you are actually mentally ill
Wait I'm confused
yeah not for intern
Why is LinkedIn better than doordash
intern for swe caps out at 65ish
Doordash or Uber
genernally
Uber
bro meesta please get off discord
I think I’d go uber over all of them
Wait
Carlos wait
this is asking harvard vs yale
The answer is always apple
this is asking umd vs wisco
Wait I'm leaving soon but I need to gather some data
wait true
Doordash or Uber
yo dyk what helicopter is btw
Answer Mr Carlos
uber
Don't be mean
Thanks Mr Carlos
So
- Uber
- Doordash
- Apple
- Amazon
?
Should I switch something
apple ios no1
what are you even ranking based off
What offer you'd take
amazon
But LinkedIn has free food
why is doordash < linkedin
Idk I'm curious too
i'd rather get an ro than free food
does amazon even have good ro chances
yeah
doordash > all
oh shit
its p good
i thought it was dooky now cuz they hire so much
fr WE are big backing
It’s like one of the good things about them
they want to ro so they can force 80 hour work weeks when ng'ing
if doordash didnt exist all these yc founders who dont know / dont have time to cook will starve to death, net negative on the world as a whole, yc founders create things that will change many lives
we need to keep them going
ifl a lot of ppl dd at least sometimes
Guys, Robinhood or Doordash
kalshi or robinhood
good
Hood or Apple
hood
Hood or Amazon
zon mogs
I’m not picking Amazon of any of rhese
🤣
zon >>
You guys are obsessed with zon
we all trynna pay $12 for lunch
give me a zon and js offer and i'm picking zon
a bullet in my head
kalshi vs palantir vs openai vs lockheed martin vs anduril vs amazon
lowkey if regulations come kalshi is cooked
OpenAi
mfs still avoid amazon like the plague
Zon is cooked
Kalshi on levels?
ik meals aren't free
Amazon is no food unless your manager is nice and gets team snacks
wish i was at meta rn i could big back the ice cream every meal
But then we'd have other problems
my 10 cc agents running in parallel got me
Out of faang apple is prob one of the few that doesn’t do much lay off and not heavily invested into AI
Like Zon
Idk what Zon is cooking
But like jasy bullish into ai for some reason
Ai boner
isnt it lowest tc out of faang
And it’s still pretty high
but u like never get layed off
For a Ng?
ai empowers me to do more ahh
Twitter or X
more like cause canada pays pickles
Peanuts
no its pickles now patrick
I would prefer cheese curds
Poutine w
Why pickle now
God I’m craving poutine
cause pickles suck
holy fat
is this good
Ok do you not get cravings at 12:34am
is canadas greatest inventions maple syrup and poutine
Btw thanks everyone for responding to my polls. I'll have some more shortly. Your participation is appreciated
usually asleep by then
Prob basketball
and shopify
And some section of the Geneva Convention
what polls
what a responsible young man
Can always grind for more
poutine is ass
I had a bunch on top trying to gauge how people thought about LinkedIn and others
Are there a lot of basketball courts in toronto ?
No idea I don’t play
why are aerospace and bme in red lol
whats wrong with data science
aerospace eng and gender studies in the same tier lol
What do yall think of forward deployed engineering
tbh like 90% of the majors at most college are prob ngmi
Ngmi
Damn why tho
I’ve lowkey been thinking about it
Traditional SWE is going to slowly die out as AI gets better
What will matter more is applying the software
And that’s literally what FDE is
Might as well get a head start
I think legit only palantir has a reputable fde program
the rest r just sales engineers + consultants
and its just bc they have a relatively unique business model/product
Hmm
I’m jk kinda sounds cool if that’s the lifestyle u want
if u don’t want to stay like super technical your whole career too
yall for zon did anyone get a 3rd round interview
my interviewer was tryna convince me they can make it technical. was saying like Ill recommend u for low level distributed systems deployments and shit
I think it’d be so beneficial to have a job where you can become great at sales and software and consulting
does zon mean officially out of the ngmi pipeline?
and he was a ex swe at two sigma
Oh fr
zon school is feeder to what companies
At palantir
?
Why would he do that
How much of it is transferable skills
depends on deployments
like I would assume you’d become an expert in palantir’s systems but not necessarily like general dev stuff
said Id be matched with a deployment that matches my interests and was asking specifically about things I mentioned ie low level networks and distributed systems
did u accept it
he said some of the newer stuff is just api calling basically
but if u work on more legacy systems it can be fairly technical
so they try to match the interns with their interests
no just scheduled final round
It was only a 30min convo didnt get that much info, Once I talk with the hm ill have a better idea if its interesting for me ig
I’m ngl FDE sounds so lit
the most cracked guy i grew up with is in fde
It sounds like you get to wear so many hats and learn so much
cuz hes like 9/10 psl
Also I’d love to just get great at sales
and went to stanford
no but he is my goat
He’s my goat too
after talking to him he says its a good place to be in w ai
That’s what I’m thinking
the traditional SWE job seems a little uncertain what it’ll look like in a few years
Might be more communication focused than it is now
But that’s literally what FDE is
Sales / communication focused
labs do fde
all defense too
o yea I guess the other labs too
Oooh and you get to travel a lot
Constantly flying to customers in NYC or London or wherever
That sounds so sick
I heard even if ur living outside the country for a deployment palantir pays u US salaries. So like you could be living in like Germany making 240kUSD for 2 years (if you want)
is this fr?
rumors idk
And there’s probably less competition than normal SWE
where do u even travel
This might be the move
depends on the deployment
Everyone at Palantir seems to be fairly smart though
atleast in my interactions so far
Israel idk 😭
Your group is on a 9 day streak! 🔥 Here are yesterday's results:
👑 4/6: @proud mauve
5/6: @undone mirage
X/6: @dawn valve
drop the method
tiger 16 and 2 others are playing
simpforgtrs was playing
Holy peak ass word
I don’t forgive. I don’t forget.
sorry bud




