#2027_summer
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How does Purdue honor code work can you just deny forever until they drop the case
🥀
ive legit been paranoid about this happening to me 😭
I'm so disappointed he chose to do this
Turkstra still has glazers to this day
Cuz like lowkey if ur not tarded you could get away with denying
Idk how they even get to that point
lowkey this is why i no longer like coding-heavy classes
Its just cause he's in his mid 40s and obsessed with squirrels for some reason
They think he's quirky
Jeff Turkstra's personal website. Contains photographs, memoirs, TI-86 & TI-89 programs/games, quotes, MIDI's, SeaQuest images, links, and more!
yo this dude is evil
wtf
I used to glaze him cause I think his hws made me a better programmer
Holy shit the middle schooler thing
I forgot to mention that
why is he going after middle schoolers for a program he wrote 30 years ago
Same irrelevant to industry if ur gonna have 800 loc projects where you can’t use ai
But this move by him is too insufferable
I think it was a essay on us history or smthn
The cs 240 professor
At Purdue
Like I’m not advocating for vibecoding copy paste slop but like there has to be a balance
He wasn't a prof at the time tho
I think he was an undergrad 💀
So he was a student and thought going after a child was the best use of his time
Wait so he's always been this way
I thought he just got bitter over the years
He just hunted down some kid who plagirised his thing
this dudes a fucking loser bro holy
My friend told me he was an undergrad at the time
💀
He showed some early signs
The only ppl he's ever nice to is undergrad TAs
i just read through this whole thing
this is insane bruh
this guy has issues fr
Might be cause grad students have to TA cause they get tuition off or smthn? And students have to take his class
So he can abuse them without consequences
But he can't really treat UTAs like shit cause they'll just quit
My year he was lowk chill tho
I honestly don't know how he got so bad
Showing his true colors
Yea the only new thing he did for u was the gps thing
But apparently that's not uncommon
This guy should be nowhere near a lecture room
i mean he went put a middle schooler in his place
the signs were there
Ye I agree
I mean I don't think it's too bad tbh
Like just show up to lectures and stuffs
worked here it seems
It’s not a real ai detector
well there's some obvious things you can do to tell for egregious cases
His detector is a semi educated guess
but generally not
Ye I couldn't even finish some assigments on time
We have the same thing for one of my classes all they can do is check how much code you’ve added within commits and if you copy pasted stuff
Cause it was too time consuming
like my understanding is most profs do use some kind of ai detector but for most of their suspicious cases they don't pursue it, they only go after the egregiously obvious ones
but this prof seems to be going after everyone he even mildly suspects
i mean would it surprise you if over 50% of people cheated on homeworks
what makes him evil
this is one reason why im also no longer a cs major
It does build up base skills for freshmen tho
just doing math and ml classes now
I liked the class just the person teaching it is a maniac
no it definetely is
this dudes just a loser whose ego tripping
he purposely made the hw harder because of AI and dont expect people to use ai
Jeff Turkstra's personal website. Contains photographs, memoirs, TI-86 & TI-89 programs/games, quotes, MIDI's, SeaQuest images, links, and more!
read this lol
Yea it's essentially exam based, since they assume everyone gets a 100% on homeworks they have a policy that you need a 85+ average on exams to get an A
And exams have about a 70 average
So that was sufficient to weed out anyone who coasted by cheating
tf???
purdue gets worse by the day
sounds like an extremely high cortisol class.
fr bruh he's legit jacking himself off about tracking down a high school kid and getting him punished 😭
personally going for a middle schooler is diabolical
Middle schooler*
we also have a CS 240 -- it's much less cortisol than your cs 240
bro what college mf has the time to track down a middle schooler and makes sure they get punished
how much time do u have gang
@noble lion on the reddit it seems that like most people that got the email did use AI
Ifl nearly everyone in the class uses AI
so the other 40% just didnt get caught
Yeah
My year? Weekly homework took about 8 hours if locked in
This year, maybe 20+
Nah bruv wtf
I TAd last semester and one homework had a function so tedious ppl had 600 lines and I couldn't help them
The goat TA
Thank you for helping me
why is intro to c even a prereq to sophomore classes
Literally as time consuming as the os class at my school
Literally what I was saying
U were locked in bro
No it's a very useful class
Soph year both sems you'll use C
Without u I would've used AI fs 🤡
Would prob be more useful if it was java or cpp
You should learn C before going into other things
I don't disagree with the class itself just the prof being Satan incarnate
wtf
for which classes
thats cooked
Comparch and systems
oh yeah that makes sense
And other classes you might want to take
most people just learn c on the fly for those classes though
A lot of classes here use C
Systems lowk frying me
R y'all in webserver now
Couldn't finish wildcards on time
Ye
i read it, but not the email part can u tldr the email part
wait till you get to OS
Rip
The OS class at Purdue is a joke
I think system is the peak here tho
In terms of coding
Like I'm ngl system takes more time than algo and cryptography combined
There's no learning in that class
And it's not even close
Ur in 381?
Ye
Webserver was lowk more time consuming than I thought it'd be
I was expecting it to be chill after shell
Gus didn't give us extension for shell
💀
Rip
We got like a month extension or smthn
Or maybe that was for malloc
Did no one ask
That's why I couldn't finish it in time lmao
Ts frying me bro
Most other schools I hear about the os class is bs
Someone did but he said no
Prob cause he was assuming everyone is gpting
Wow
💀
Gus saying no to an extension request
dude hunted down a middle schooler for plagiariam through IPs/networking tracking and got him in trouble and is apparently very proud of it to the point of spendin ghalf of his faq bragging about it
Genuinely unheard of till now
yep
ngl if i was the parent of the kid
ngl if i was the teacher i'd tell the guy to fuck off
Worst part is this guy prob thinks he’s the shit for having this much spotlight on him
That’s how these people are
They don’t learn
Implementation quiz can’t be that hard tho
Js study the ai code and you’ll be ight no?
Either him or his TAs are reporting negative reviews on rmp
A lot of them have disappeared lately
Lmao
They don't tell you which assignments you're accused of
And he waited for 11 homeworks to tell ppl
I like how you're hating on his TAs
💀
You were one of them bro
They deserve the hate
I was once not anymore
If the TAs rightfully condemned his behavior I wouldn't have a problem
But they're defending him
Ye I feel like just do this right after they flag someone
Call them in for some interviews
That’s so heinous
And maybe announce the class ppl are being caught using AI
Subreddit says he’s writing positive reviews of himself on burners is that true
😭
So make sure to not use it
It would be a much better way to deal with this
the ai scandal is so funny
I wish I could see what his lecture room gonna be like tmr
are there any updates on that
Someone should livestream ts
The stream is gonna be on the subreddit
when did he release the email
For sure
was it on friday?
Peak
The day of the course drop deadline I think (April 15)
I wonder why he didn't just wait another day
wait am i stupid whats so bad about this, the shit baout him emailing a kids teacher cuz his sites website got ripped off? yea thast weird
there’s gonna be some news article someday being like “95% of purdues cs class was caught using chatgpt”
He wants to make those freshmen suffer bro
They have to choose either to drop or not
To report in the form or not
found the next turk
can u explain context
The shit where you have to admit which assignments correctly or you get an F is so weird
Ye lmao
purdue professor tracked down a student for sharing software?
Like imagine you actually want to come clean but you forgot to mark one of like 6 homeworks u cheated on
At least people can drop this late
or stealing the website design
You get an F and potentially expelled
How and why tf did the kid steal from this guy anywyas 😭😭
The expulsion thing is more like turkstra would email the department recommending it but it's not turkstras choice
I think copy pasted part of his us history presentation
Idk how turkstra even found out about it
I mean he's fear mongering like crazy
That’s actually so goofy
actually a professor at our school did the same thing
wait all i see is
him being weird about a TI84 thing and like weirdly flagging down some middle schooler for a website
what do you think we're talking about
i’m so confused
can someone tldr
@foggy fern
@neat hemlock
there’s a purdue professor the cs one who sent the email, what’s that gotta do with it-84 and middle school
dude was a professor in college, and emailed a middle school principal because some kid took a photo off his website
https://turkeyland.net/faq.php the faq related to plagiarism
Jeff Turkstra's personal website. Contains photographs, memoirs, TI-86 & TI-89 programs/games, quotes, MIDI's, SeaQuest images, links, and more!
yo
he was using it for a class project
this guys a diddler
go email his school over plagarism
new method
its actually crazy how bad some people are at using ai
like straight copy paste
for everything
Deadass felt this reading through the faq
what math are u using to study anki with tho
i thought anki was flashcards
yeah
like to memorize thms?
yeah basically memorizing theorems and definitions, and the key ideas / intuition behind proofs
yeah ig it might work, i normally just reread the proof until i get it
yeah ofc this is just aafter i solved a problem / proved a theorem
to keep me from forgetting
yuh ig its good
in analysis theres so few thms where u just remember them all
but i remember my algebra class literally had 90k definitions to learn
yeah fair
yeah and lots of definitions too
idk i feel like in the past ive overcorrected to not try to do any rote memorization but im increasingly realizing memorization (as long as it's not by rote) is actually really useful and important
as long as you also understand it deeply
fair lol
i think most likely i'll just make cards periodically while studying when i want to stop thinking for a bit / take a break mentally
also orz
best way to study math is to attempt a ton of practice problems
wtf
what is the likelyhood this is legit
they have 6 connections, are from china, but it says verified recruiter
Aren't you cs 😭
bros at wells fargo its pretty brutal
🥀
he needs to ascend
Wdym isnt like everyone in this server CS
Oh I just read it
Tiktok is chinese
hi chat
i am not
Is PayPal tuff
yah it’s got like a bunch of founders from it
sup christo
what r the plans for today
hi christo
!process Point72 Quant Developer interview process
Would AWS get u IMC swe intern proc?
whats mlt
anki is goated
never used it for math tho but its rlly good for just shoveling shit into ur brain ime
sleep a lot and eat yummy food
i used it for japanese learning
my opinion is it won't work well with math/cs
fields that need deep understanding
tho its super useful if you just want to memorize
Update on the Purdue 240 incident
Nothing happened lmao
The dept head prob persuaded him to do things differently
Like all previously submitted hws are ignored
This graduate student union at my school really be sending out emails like “hey all please pay us money so we can save you money”
like wait a minute
Hold up a second

Ur just changing whose pockets the money goes to ah hell nah
idk
That’s a good question
nobody get expelled or anything?
Nah
They got an emailed to reenroll lmao
Kinda expected tho cause you can't fail half of the class
was the evidence just not strong enough to prove anything lol
is it a good sign if amazonr eaches out for an in-person SDE intern interview or is that just the norm
just confused cuz i know a lot of friends have done online ones
He prob folded
didnt he say he still believes the people he flagged cheated
I mean I guess that and also they don't want to make students angry I think
Cause they are paying 🤡
I do believe a lot of ppl who got flagged did cheat
I just don't like the way he sent out some forms to fear monger
well the exams will catch the ones who didn’t actually learn the material well enough
anyways
purdue is my dream
I feel like it's much easier to learn the correct code than to write it then debug
Like unless u just one shot all hws with AI then ye
What school u go to
not purdue
true but i feel like you learn deeper if u gotta struggle through coding it urself and debugging
idk it prob depends on each person tho
Ye I still do 💀
CMU?
yah just weight exams more lol
yeah lol
i remember in my high school math classes the exams weighed 80%
I don't think that's fair as well
Cause the hw takes too much time
So it should be weighted more
anyone getting Palantir interview? im a 2nd yr idk how i got it
is it for summer or some other one
bro how r yaall gettin all ts
might be fried
yo ive never done LC int before how cooked is palantir
U got it?
@unique robin what a recruiting season am i right
idk i was just thinking about all the fucking unicorn procs u had
just to end up with the og proc in the end
ending up in the worst position of the safteys i had
oh boo hoo ur making 60$/hr
the problem isnt the company its the location
where is it located
oh yeah i remember u saying nj had super hc
i asked on rutgers gc's and stuff
i mean surely they find something for you though
the people who are subleasint are insane brhu
it's not in the middle of nowhere bruh
it's in edison
right next to metropark
this one chick is in a double and wanted me to live with her roommate in the same romo
yeah
does rutgers feed into wf
for 850 a month
like bro
another guy was in a place with 6 internationals 1 bathroom
like bo
😭
its just a bunch of places like that which are available now
Why is it partnered with TL wtf 😭😭
cause al the interns got their huosing already
can't be a coincidence ... surely ...
i wonder
but like
its actually cooked bro
or i can spend even more on rent which i dont wanna
i was looking sub 1.5 which is very reasonable for the area
game might be game
that is not game
Might be a life changing summer if you do that
its a girl roommate
Game is game.
listen to him he's wise
Worlds weirdest collab
mark what do i do
not sure brother
just keep looking waiting for something to open up
qd @ wf
ur a personable fellow someone could prob get you into some decent housing
do iactually just live out of my car
team liquid 😭 😭 😭
dude ayman i like
ur just consistently so dramatic and it's kinda funny
im not dramatic i just keep track of circumstances
nah i been realized its just funny still
me against the world fr
so wait a second can u talk about how u fumbled world modeling @ hf
just confused because they were sending u care packages
so it was a masters /phd role right
bro embraced the larp too hard
Larp is life.
they were like no
idk what random college kid is gonna survive against magnus
im a sophmore
im an unc
holy orz
ayman
🥀
wtf
hi
lowkey IMC so aura pairing with TL
use furnished finder @unique robin
i am
is even furnished finder cooked
yeah
if even thats cooked idk man
same places as airbnb
fr
the problem is the place isnt like a well visited spot so not many in the first place
and the rest of the interns already got housing
i feel like furnished finder usually got more like 1-3 months items that are better deals than airbnb
cause its meant for traveling workers (originally built for nurses since they have to hop hospitals a lot)
it looks about same to me
i think its a loc diff
i might have to shell out more money
though not ideal
Yo go on furnished finder and negotiate with people
Works way better than you’d expect
do it
Especially if the place u work at is known in the area and people respect it
ok ill try at higher price ranges
nope
or do they just give u stipend to figure it out
they give u one time
2.5k + they pay tax
per month?
falcons mogs
u pay housing out of pocket
is there any openings? for fullstack development.
bro huh
i mean i guess they figure ur making enough hourly to afford it but still
what
jesus dude that's rough
Loona isn’t even alive bro
bro
tax*
bro
r u gonna be in dallas
$2,500 + 60/hr salary
you will be FINE
fade NJ
1:30 ish
No the group got disbanded a while ago
+- depending on traffic
i live in the city already
my two internships I spent
- one summer total of $3.3k on housing (12 weeks) in Colorado Springs
- one summer a total of like $2300 on housing (14 weeks) in Orlando
yea id kms
and the toll to leave and enter nj is like $15 a day
yea i guesseed not
wf gotta pay hella tho
a good room is like 1.2-7
Im going to NJ for like 3 weeks mane
which part when
i dm u
yeah
thats some SF shit
sf is worse
sf is like 1.5
i guess nyc metro prices killing me
true
guys..
Engineers that are interviewing me are that team
normal places r like 1.5k for a room but studio is 2k+
1.2-1.5 is like the price up here too
in the city city its like 2k
i go to school in upstate ny
but on the outer edges its like 1.5-1.75
so one of my interviewers for my interview (2 back to back) did not come and my other interviewer said oh 'i can see chats and there was a miscommunication an you should be rescheduled' this was on friday and i havent hesrd BACK (ZON)
no way
the link up

ayman and me gonna grab lunch one day fr fr
😋
the double might be your only hope
what happened
yo @unborn aspen whats good bro
oh knight is back
I love CS man
sup is something
why are u not larping school in linkedin banner…
or not banner
but uh desc
or bio?
ye ngl i was scared when i made my announcement shit was gonna get reneged
so i had to balance out the larp
ye i'll switch it back over once i start ramping up ng recruiting
start already 😈😈😈😈
r u grad this fall
still
ye december i finish
i dont see myself staying in school any longer unless i get like a super internship offer or smth
genuinely only have 5 classes left anyway lol
school hurts
yeah i'm over it, already overstayed my welcome by doing a extra semester
u could just try for fall while new grad recruiting and grad spring
even tho it ended up working out for me
u wouldn’t be in school any longer technically
i mean i dont walk the stage until spring anyway
hi
my school stopped doing fall commencement ceremonies
hi chiz
also still on the fence about what route i wanna go, swe or more data based roles
swe is tuff
so im trying to see how i like data engineering before i rlly start applying
oh shi
have u done any data eng stuff before
never, this internship will be my first time
i've obviously learned like sql basics and studied the architecture of those systems but nothing practical
crazy that like these jobs just pay 90-100k out of college. and people consider them bad 😭😭😭😭
yeah that's the plan
i am so curious as to what a return offer would be for me
poverty
cuz its paying $26.50 for intern

like 100k is so much for a new grad if ur not in a big city
How to get quant
u cant say this here
forbidden words
if ur not making 200k+ fresh out of school it's over for you
get 600 on capone gca
people are so out of touch
trust me i know but it's a lost cause trying to explain that to anyone here
maybe my ng offer would be like 35-40/hr
🤔
tuff bro
idk! no telling!
careful saying that in cscd
35 an hour is my dream
orz
nowhere other than bay and nyc is a real place to cscd'ers
well ye a lot of people here seem to live in those hcol
so yeah from an optics perspective i could see why 100k-140k could be bad
cscd'ers cannot comprehend what that is
but if ur in like anywhere else...100k for a single person straight out of school is really good
100k is actually poverty in the bay or nyc
which most people here want
but i’m from the trenches so idk
dude cali just seems like such a terrible state to live in
100k is under the official poverty line for both cities
like i dont see the appeal
how much would u need to live comfortably (genuine question)
i would rather go nyc over cali ngl
like 160 in nyc
but im biased cuz im from chi
idk about cali
I prefer nyc over bay
gg
and I'm a west coast boy
privilege
what privilege exactly
paying more taxes, dealing with more traffic, wildfires
W privilege
100%
the privilege of growing up there so ur used to a standard
real
how much to comfortably live in the bay
maybe seattle is the play…
seattle seems chill
depends on your idea of comfortble
nah SD/LA is the play
living in LA...ya right
probably from 40-50 per hour. and if u get another offer it could be way more
seattle is like the west coast's NYC (extremely watered down but still nice)
LA is a shithole
everyone says socal is the play until they notice there’s not many swe jobs in socal
js get anduril
https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/s/YiMB6TqMWS
is this genuine or ragebait
they increase that much hourly from intern ---> ng?
it lowk migh be real
socal is the play if you don't need to work tbh
if you're rich + retired, socal is the best place to live out your days
there’s a few offices for other big tech but that’s really abt it
sd for example is a lot more hardware focused
it’s great if ur retiring and allat yah
bomb threat on resume
at what point do we admit this is a skill issue
would u be taking home more money in seattle than the bay
it evens out
bro. humana offered 23 an hour for interns and u start at a swe 2 after graduating if u were an intern. it depends on team but you get paid 110 on the low to 140k
he has to be racist during interviews or his resume or soemthing
its so close it wouldnt matter pretty sure
i dont beleive that
No RO from stripe ts has to be troll or hes js dumb
what the fuck LOL
wb no washington state tax tho?
dude i had no clue it scales like that
yeah but sf u make more
that's nutty
so its like similar
if u look at amazon as a baseline, the pay in the bay is ~20k more for example
i can only hope for smth like that
it offsets
this is my internship season...
alr bro we js larping atp
washington then taxes u for food delivery, alcohol, and whatever other random stuff
nah I'm applying new grad
I only applied to zon intern
for funzies
wait actually
did u get zon
yea
when do u grad
Look at his post history lol
kinda dont wanna be laid off tho
I've noticed a lot of people in this server come from the bay or super hcol places and grew up rich
yeah that's what i'm saying
which is why mythra highlighted a good point - they are used to a certain standard
and ud be right
like if ur parents conditioned you to think that making less than 200k is chopped then like obviously you carry that with you
or grew up poor and are greedy
no matter how out of touch it sounds
too many bay area mfers are too sheltered for their own good. I've met way too many people from the bay who think everyone has their same background/experiences and thinks exactly like they do
Based on how people react to things in this server I don't think many people here grew up poor
so many bay area dudes ive met are so insufferable
there's 100% a disconnect between hcol people and like everyone below that
at least from the people who are actively chatting
maybe ye
ye
larp it as swe 🙏
^
Wait how do I do that
just say your title was swe
just twist what you did to make it seem more swe-based
lie
that's really it lol
I’m gonna be making dashboards and stuff
orz
ye ik same thing i'm doing this summer
but you can just spin whatever ur doing to like
you know
is that not front end
align with the role ur trying to get
how is that data eng
because you're pulling the data in to actually make the dashboard
c# bobbing
it's really sql
their job is prolly mostly collecting data and shit
^
ah
2 seconds
ya that sounds like what im doing this summer
shits gonna be tuff
manager straight up said i can use AI too
But it sounds like I’ll get a lot of freedom
Like they made it sound pretty open
is there an issue with that
mark ur abt to finish ur project in 2 weeks
then ez money
u could ask for swe work
ye prob but uh bro said i gotta come with him to 7am meetings with people overseas
which i dont mind
I was just thinking maybe I could voluntarily do more SWE work
Yeah
ye than grind leetcode at work
im sure you could lol
india ?
gotta prep for summer 27
ong
think so he didnt say where they were from
but if i had to guess yeah
7am meetings is brutal
@urban ore found ur cousin a job
orz
😭
if u finish ur project it’s mostly vibes
I'm delaying grad till 2032
like if ur manager fucks with u
Guys is it worth doing a fall co op
not graduating till I get big tech 🙏
yeah i mean the plan is to hopefully finish early and take on more work
what company
but it's a new domain to me so i'll have to see
yeah if ur prvs r poo and the company is an upgrade
Wait idk I don’t have an offer yet
if u get one ye
Like I was just wondering if applying would be worth it
yes
yes
but how do u stay productive after finishing ur assignment ngl
unless it’s some no name
lol
i love working early
don't tell them and grind clash royale on company time
i dont wanna work late into the afternoon if i can avoid it
same dude
i love working from 8 am to like 2pm
then laze for 4 hours
or 5
then work again
9-9 7 days a week is my dream lifestyle
Cuz I haven’t, Y’know… done it yet…
as long as they provide lunch I don't care how long I work
Wait do they make baby powder
@tiktok recruiters lmk I'm down to 997 🙏
Holy shit they actually make baby powder
he tells me it’s the chillest job if u literally wanna do nothing
If i have a 3.65 gpa and i larp it to be 3.99, how would employers find out?
Most employers i seen so far haven’t asked for transcripts or anything
they won't unless they ask for transcript
but also it doesn't actually do anything anywhere that doesn't ask for transcript
unless company asks for it specifically but they r much more likely to ask for transcript to verify
so like
kinda useless
U can get big tech w 0 prevs
I think most companies that ask for transcripts just to verify your number of credits, not gpa
oh fr? heard they did care (at least goog + db)
for ur first internship it's fine
yeah my friend got an interview with a 2.9
they care that you meet some minimum gpa requirement
holy aura this guy got google
you dont necessarily need sum crazy
does having like a recognizable name brand help w recruiting even if it’s like a retail company
with like a smaller tech org
Too hard bro
guys is zon still doing interview
why are theynot ending that shit 😭
orz
i lowk only remember how to do it in c++ and not python
are u allowed to switch language mid intv
reverse an LL
lowk
reference i think?
or does it depend
mmm
chipotle just gave me the answer bro
whats the point of leetcode
to filter out the chuds who aren't ai native like us
im a claude whisperer
I’m chudded
i’ll get c1 in 2027
Guys I think it might just have been an add for Julius
im hungy
JUDA
yo i need c1 ng
We’ll get it together

depends
cscd mod meetup at c1
Where do u work juda
🔥
We’re all making it to mclean
mods in mclean
idk if we can all make it we might have to settle for a c1 cafe somewhere else
c1 might get the best of us
do cscareers mods put they're cscareers mods on their resume
yea we do
you dont?
no
im ngmi
im not cscareers mod
i wish i was
they're so cool
yeah it won me a stack rank
someone ik lowkenuinely got scheduled for early may
💀
they're quarter system so they can do june start
but just consider
W
what if you need to do mid-may start
do I larp cscareers mod on the resume
that is me lol
i need mid may start
hopefully it gets done in april itself so i have 20 days to do onboarding
i dont think it should take that long
nah on-boarding + finding housing is hella intense for like a couple weeks and then it cools down
20 days is more than enough
Won’t housing take longer
Has anyone in here used cluely for an interview before
teams only recruiting for quarter system / out of specific schools
airbnb is empty as shit
that makes sense ig
they're a UW student
world cup is taking thsi shit
so the team probably targeted them
yeah it’s not uncommon
Valid
for like 3-4k in cali rn
😂
airbnb is not the move this summer
everyone jacking up prices hella
but university subleases are still good
just live in a cardboard box
just live in office
at Amazon Seattle, yes it does
cause the only nearby one is UW
and it's quarter
same for bay cause Stanford is quarter
stanford doesn't sublease to non stanford kids



