2027_summer

[opal needle]

respect to all ee majors

[livid topaz]

One more semester

I’m done

I’m free

[opal needle]

genuinely

oh nice

good shit

[lilac hemlock]

bro one of my EE upperclassmen got anduril

genuine orz

[opal needle]

yeah EE tapped in ppl just mog

EE mfs can learn cs not the other way around

that explains everything

[lilac hemlock]

id assume anything EE for anduril has to be one of the hardest things to do

[opal needle]

probably lmao

[livid topaz]

Yuh idk I felt like picking up leetcode it was pretty easy

[opal needle]

i havent found my passion yet so i just chose cs

lol

[lilac hemlock]

lowkey same

i enjoy it though

[opal needle]

peter thiel called CS fake lol

its a science but its a derivative

[livid topaz]

Signal Processing in C++ 😣

[lilac hemlock]

okay well peter thiel kills people

[opal needle]

its easier than other applied sciences

[coral cedar]

yall got passions?

[lilac hemlock]

IFAANG right guys

[opal needle]

ifaang orz

[livid topaz]

I thought I was passionate about ee

[opal needle]

im in a computer vision class and learning signal processing rn, this shit is hard

😭

i feel the pain

[livid topaz]

But my love for wallet couldn’t fucking lock me in

[lilac hemlock]

how are you already in an upper level class

[livid topaz]

ngl signal processing is my favorite class

[lilac hemlock]

my curriculum HATES me

[opal needle]

i finished my lower divs first year

lol

[lilac hemlock]

they think im like a child dawg

[opal needle]

now its all electives + upper divs

[coral cedar]

if i followed my passions id be living on the streets

[lilac hemlock]

youre so lucky

[opal needle]

a lot of my APs and other dual credit courses in hs helped me jump up

[livid topaz]

if I followed my passions i would also be on the streets

[lilac hemlock]

yeah fair

[opal needle]

otherwise id be stuck

yeah

[livid topaz]

Bro music > History

[lilac hemlock]

i skipped a few as well but i was basically barred from taking even the intro class until soph year 💀 💀 💀

like are you serious

[opal needle]

🥀

school diff

sorry for ur losses

[livid topaz]

Fucking control systems 🫩🫩

[lilac hemlock]

genuine school diff...

[livid topaz]

Thanks for the ee glaze guys

[lilac hemlock]

(Why are we doing that to the control system

[opal needle]

EE profs are the most goated ppl

[livid topaz]

Fuck ahh class

[opal needle]

in the uni

for prob all unis

ngl

[lilac hemlock]

NO

[livid topaz]

Wait they lwk very autistic

[opal needle]

but like very smart

is what i mean

ye

[livid topaz]

I’m taing for one

[next barn]

stop i dont wanna think about this anymore

right at crisp 8 am too

[lilac hemlock]

my intro to EE professor mightve been The Worst Teacher Ive Ever Had

[lilac hemlock]

oh 100%

[livid topaz]

And he’s just the most autistic person I met

[opal needle]

🥀

tbh becoming a prof is hard

no one talks abt that

harder than faang by a lot

[livid topaz]

Semiconductor and its application 🫩🫩

[fierce pendant]

@next barn ur in engineering???

[next barn]

im in ce

[fierce pendant]

oh shi how was first year

[next barn]

1b ce

bro im not done yet 🥀

[opal needle]

🥀

[next barn]

i still have discrete math and e&m final

[fierce pendant]

gl gl

[next barn]

thank you boss

[opal needle]

interested in the loo caste system too

yes

[fierce pendant]

waterloo engineering has aura

actually theres kinda levels to it

like depending on which engineering

ce is aura

[next barn]

cs is probably more meta for straight jobs

but i wanted to do the hardware

[livid topaz]

Fucking quantum sensing 🫩🫩🫩

[fierce pendant]

cs is the best for coopmaxxing cuz easier program

[next barn]

bro cs is so much easier

what is your scehdules like wtf

[lilac hemlock]

lol

se cannot be a real major dawg

[fierce pendant]

idk i dont go to class

[livid topaz]

Plasma theory 😭😭

[next barn]

the software engineers experienced our circuits course and they were genuinely crying

[livid topaz]

Bro fuck this shit

[next barn]

no

[livid topaz]

EE was not worth it

[next barn]

oh wait

kinda

[livid topaz]

I should have jsut dropped

[fierce pendant]

se harder to get into

[lilac hemlock]

thank you for helping me not look back in regret

[next barn]

se i think is a bit harder since they have to take some ece mandatory courses

[opal needle]

EE worth if u passionate

only reason

[lilac hemlock]

ya very fair

[craggy moth]

se == cs with more stupid courses

[opal needle]

its like objectively a hard major

[fierce pendant]

yes

[livid topaz]

Even with passion

[next barn]

SE has some UIUX mandatory course in 3rd year i think

[livid topaz]

It’s kinda cooked

[craggy moth]

cs 349 😂

[opal needle]

bro if u end up as a hardware person at faang or nvidia

ur prob never getting fired no

thats prob the dream

[fierce pendant]

cs349 sounds fire

i need bird cs courses

[shell sigil]

1b is lowkey the worst so ur almost out of it 🙏

[livid topaz]

Systems swe at Nvidia 🫩🫩🫩

[opal needle]

🥀

lock in

[next barn]

1b is so easy 😭

[livid topaz]

Imma get fired

[opal needle]

bro

working for google TPU or amazon chips

is prob safe

[shell sigil]

Is ur schedule not straight 9-5 everyday

[next barn]

i dont go to class

bro the profs go so slow

i cnat pay attention

[fierce pendant]

not going to class is the meta

[shell sigil]

Ok same LMAO

[livid topaz]

Image processing

[next barn]

i only go to ece 106 and 140 cuz i like the material

[craggy moth]

u gotta do my layout

[red whale]

What companies open up

[next barn]

LOL

[red whale]

Soon

[shell sigil]

Also the 1b labs literally had like mark deductions if you were late by even 5 mins which was annoying

Idk if they still do that

[red whale]

Am I doomed for 2026?

[next barn]

what term u in rn

[shell sigil]

3a

[fierce pendant]

afm101????????

[next barn]

holy unc

[fierce pendant]

larping cfm

[craggy moth]

3b

[shell sigil]

🥀

[next barn]

😭

[craggy moth]

all the courses this term are so piss 😂

[next barn]

yo how was 240

@shell sigil

i really liked 140

[fierce pendant]

did u already take os and algorithms?

[shell sigil]

240 wasn't bad

[craggy moth]

yeye took it last term

instead of doing 3 coops alr i did 2

[opal needle]

wait has nvidia had layoffs recently or nah

[fierce pendant]

oh wtf ur ahead

[opal needle]

i feel like its stable

[next barn]

it was fucked this term

[fierce pendant]

oh nvm ur in 3b

[livid topaz]

Nah hardware companies don’t do layoffs

[shell sigil]

What prof

[next barn]

240 midterm median was like 40 😂

[opal needle]

broooo

[fierce pendant]

icarus just hating on everything

[opal needle]

i need to be in nvidia

😭

[livid topaz]

Nvidia swe is goated for that

[full chasm]

lol vercel got hacked

[mint quest]

do cs majors feel more superior to other majors

[livid topaz]

Bro

[opal needle]

less

i wish i was a normal person

[livid topaz]

CS majors are the most fucking annoying majors

[mint quest]

bro said a normal person

[livid topaz]

like holy shit

[opal needle]

AGREED

i hate myself im

[echo obsidian]

i know some ME majors scared cuz theres some MCP plugin now for CAD

its kinda funny

[fierce pendant]

were we not arguing abt loo 2 days ago

[livid topaz]

Every ee class I been in the questions they ask are reasonable within scope

[opal needle]

ily

icarus

[livid topaz]

For CS it’s like

[shell sigil]

canon event tbh

[livid topaz]

fucking one nerd just talking about shit out of scope for the class

[mint quest]

im currently on a cut and i feel very hungry wtf do i do

[livid topaz]

bruh fuck off

[shell sigil]

Final prob gonna get curved

[fierce pendant]

wait ce's take cs240???

[opal needle]

at my school its also the nerds that are the most ngmi in terms of recruiting

🥀

[fierce pendant]

oh true

[shell sigil]

he's talking about ece 240 LOL

[craggy moth]

cs240 is so funny

[next barn]

he curved that shit hard and made the final 10% to ensure everyone passes

[livid topaz]

yuh fuck them bro

[next barn]

ece 240

[opal needle]

how are u nerdy and ngmi

[craggy moth]

wth is a skip list 😭

[opal needle]

🥀

[livid topaz]

Like so annoying

[lilac hemlock]

@opal needle yo im trying trapping rain water for the first time wish me luck gng

[opal needle]

🥀

[opal needle]

GLGLGLGLGLLGGL

[fierce pendant]

litearlly why did we learn that shit

[next barn]

@livid topaz did you take a semiconductor physics course

it looks dope

[lilac hemlock]

wait this has been out for a few months no?

[craggy moth]

i took it so long ago i forgot about it

but snowflake asked me

gg

[livid topaz]

It’s like bro we get it ur smart but like don’t talk about fucking ai research in a introduction to cs class wtf

[opal needle]

LMAOOOO

[livid topaz]

yuh

[opal needle]

sir can we use for loops

for the assignment

on day 1

[next barn]

do u recommend i have to fill out a science

[fierce pendant]

gg

[livid topaz]

It’s like chemistry basically

[lilac hemlock]

also what? paypal and coinbase in the same tier as meta/stripe/google/tesla? are paypal and coinbase actually like that?

or is it because of tc

[livid topaz]

I would yuh

[livid topaz]

I think it’s really interesting cause it’s also teaches you quantum physics too

[opal needle]

cb is up there, not equal to meta or google but > zon

[shell sigil]

Wait kes are you the cohort with the really fucked 109

[lilac hemlock]

paypal though

weird

[next barn]

NO THANK GOD 😭

[lilac hemlock]

i should learn skip list

[next barn]

they turned the bird chem course into quantum mechanics 😭

[lilac hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-funny-meme-fail-stream-gif-14291791709362611057

[livid topaz]

But also not my field I think everybody should take a signal processing and controls class just bc I’m very interested in it

[shell sigil]

LMAO I HEARD

Our version had unlimited cheatsheet i legit didnt touch the course till the morning of the final and i got 100 😭

[next barn]

ok fire im taking these anyways

[shell sigil]

Acc feel bad

[next barn]

i hope he gets kicked out

pls chill on me

[fierce pendant]

waterloos tryna nerf all the bird courses in general

[next barn]

bro ece 105 got birded so hard

[fierce pendant]

like fym clas104 has in person final now 😭

[shell sigil]

BRO ikr

[fierce pendant]

bird course = easy course

that might be a canadian term

[shell sigil]

I legit switched my enrolment to econ101 after they announced that

Then they nerfed that too

😭

[craggy moth]

isnt econ101 the same

[next barn]

192 wasnt enough econ for u? 😭

[fierce pendant]

i was too late i didnt get to take the bird version of econ101

[livid topaz]

Yuh I think semiconductor and quantum theory is pretty interesting would highly recommend it for like fun I guess

[swift moat]

mans on a joke ting bruv

[shell sigil]

Yeah it is they j announced it later

[next barn]

what do uoft and loo engineers have in common

[fierce pendant]

uoft academics mog in general

[shell sigil]

Ended up taking some bet course lol

[next barn]

they both got into uoft

[urban ore]

ong they poppycock af mate

[fierce pendant]

oh i took bet210 this sem too

it was fire

[shell sigil]

210 was full i had to take 350 💔

[fierce pendant]

online classes got in person finals sometimes

[fierce pendant]

r u in ce?

[shell sigil]

350 also wasnt bad but the tas were lowkey opps

[shell sigil]

Yep

[craggy moth]

whys the whole chat waterloo

[next barn]

waterloo just raided this server

[livid topaz]

Fuck these loo fuckers

they don’t understand the struggle

[hidden shuttle]

do most people at loo end up at faang+?

[fierce pendant]

yea i respect that tbh

?

[craggy moth]

nah...

[swift moat]

every single one

[craggy moth]

i feel like avg waterloo outcome is like zon

[vivid stirrup]

oh crodie who invited the loos

[fierce pendant]

td is average loo 2nd coop

[urban ore]

abg loo is like shopify

avg

not abg

[next barn]

i know like 10 people who got this in 1A 💀

[livid topaz]

bro why are you talking 😭😭😭 dbx + openai

[hidden shuttle]

like median loo last co op?

[fierce pendant]

prolly a bit above zon

not the zon scale again 😭

[craggy moth]

ye if u take like the top 80% i think

[undone mirage]

zons like the national currency around here now

[craggy moth]

but theres gonna be ppl whos at geotab last coop

[hidden shuttle]

do most loo get canadian Zon or US zon?

[fierce pendant]

too much variance tbh

[craggy moth]

true

[livid topaz]

Is there gonna be a zon recession

[craggy moth]

there isnt even a real ranking to this 😂

[urban ore]

how many UMDs is loo ?

[fierce pendant]

what percentile do u think ur in

[undone mirage]

i think this year was a zoncession

[livid topaz]

1.5 Zon is really good wtf

[craggy moth]

im ngmi

[undone mirage]

last year was zonflation

[craggy moth]

u are top 1%

[next barn]

any of you guys at waterloo done research

[fierce pendant]

fuck u

[swift moat]

1/3 loo is p much js offszn

[fierce pendant]

ive seen ur incoming post on linkedin

[hidden shuttle]

competition within loo is also high though, cut throat

[livid topaz]

What defense do you have with loo bro

[craggy moth]

ok openai

[proud mauve]

Too many larpers in this server

[woven badger]

what 2027 summer is opened?

[urban ore]

vs competition against the world?

[woven badger]

only see few quant spots

[swift moat]

this doesn't matter

[undone mirage]

summers over

[urban ore]

im waiting for 2028 to drop

[undone mirage]

not many people do fall

[urban ore]

unironically

[undone mirage]

so now we have 2027

soon 2030 summer

[swift moat]

WE waiting on 2030

[proud mauve]

I'm old

🙁

[mint quest]

damn bruh

[proud mauve]

I think I'm late for the gmi train

[fierce pendant]

i agree, those companies only have a few spots

[undone mirage]

its never too late

[mint quest]

can i do a summer 2027 internship and start ft august 2027

😭

[livid topaz]

This is the strat yes

[urban ore]

lowk some companies maybe

[undone mirage]

2027 is our year

[livid topaz]

My friend at Google internship is doing this rn

[mint quest]

2027 is our year

[mint quest]

wow really

Google

[echo obsidian]

2027 is over wiating for 2028

[mint quest]

yeah thats me alright

LETS GET GOOGLE

[livid topaz]

Like he got the internship

[undone mirage]

🥀

[fierce pendant]

some companies let u do internships after u graduate right?

[mint quest]

and pray they ask me leetcode easy 2sum

🙏

[swift moat]

v few

[livid topaz]

So he pushed Amazon full time to September

[urban ore]

how many problems u do today

[mint quest]

2

[livid topaz]

He just larped masters

[urban ore]

ok close app and do 2 more

[mint quest]

fine

brb

[shell sigil]

yeah you can larp omscs or sum

[swift moat]

larp +1 is free

[livid topaz]

Wait he’s like at Google rn working 😭😭

[urban ore]

are most masters people ngmi

i feel like cracked people get a job after undergrad or do a phd

[undone mirage]

the ones in it for research aren't

they're jsut on their way to a phd

[vivid stirrup]

how many zons is stanford you think

[undone mirage]

bro what 😭

[craggy moth]

masters is just international student trying to work in the us

[fierce pendant]

incompatible units

[undone mirage]

or that ^

[urban ore]

ye thats what im thinking

[proud mauve]

I think masters are mostly for cracked intl students who did undegrad in their countries

[livid topaz]

no there must be a unit conversion somewhere

[craggy moth]

cuz after u graduate u can work 3 years to try get a h1b

else company wont even care to sponsor u

[vivid stirrup]

like how many zons do you think the avg stanford grad has

[urban ore]

i think its just rich intl students

[fierce pendant]

whats the SI unit for schools

[urban ore]

not even cracked

[tulip spruce]

@dark bane hungy

[urban ore]

umd

[undone mirage]

1 stanford researcher = ? zon swes?

[livid topaz]

1 UMD

[urban ore]

we been on ts

[proud mauve]

I'm a chud intl undergrad 😭

[fierce pendant]

why'd u guys choose umd

is it like average or something

[urban ore]

t20 incoming faang btw

[craggy moth]

how many waterloo students is 1 mit

[urban ore]

its like the zon of cs schools

i feel like

uk

[vivid stirrup]

how many UMDs is a harvard

[proud mauve]

How am I T20 😭

[livid topaz]

Cause all umds are like a pipeline to Amazon

[proud mauve]

My school is like T50 chud

[urban ore]

@noble lion

[livid topaz]

Idk I don’t do research in this area

Not my specialization

[vivid stirrup]

guys we need a conversion table here i'm fucking bamboozled

[livid topaz]

Dimensional Analysis

[vivid stirrup]

0.85 i think

[fierce pendant]

this is such a chud conversation

[urban ore]

real

[livid topaz]

Ur a chud

[opal needle]

0.88 harvards actually

[urban ore]

real umd head talking

[livid topaz]

1 UMD is like average

[vivid stirrup]

fuck dude the market fluctuates so fast

[craggy moth]

stanford dont get dinners with citadel ceo

[urban ore]

😭

bro im all in on harvard rn

[livid topaz]

What is the conversion between MIT and UMD

[vivid stirrup]

going long harvard

[urban ore]

0dte they expire tommrow

well today

[opal needle]

uc berkeley lowk like 3 UMD’s

ngl

[vivid stirrup]

hmmm like 0.7?

[dapper venture]

what am I reading

[livid topaz]

So ur saying

[swift moat]

bros a d1 hater 💀

[vivid stirrup]

he hated first

it was a reactional hate

[livid topaz]

The average standford student is 1.3 smarter than the umd student

[fierce pendant]

nah fengtian only hates me

[livid topaz]

She does more hurtful things in DMs

[vivid stirrup]

i feel like that's around fair

[hidden shuttle]

@tranquil sand this gonna be you if you get zon

[livid topaz]

I🤔🤔

[vivid stirrup]

this is like 6 zons

two sigma is 2 zons

[tranquil sand]

What in the loo

[vivid stirrup]

stripe is 2 zons

zon is a zon

[hidden shuttle]

university of maryland

[livid topaz]

Ok this conversion doesn’t make sense anymore

[swift moat]

😮

[livid topaz]

We gotta be consistent

[swift moat]

@mellow saffron

[tranquil sand]

Bro is doubling up on 2 sigma and stripe?

[vivid stirrup]

my thinking is too intelligent for you peons to keep up

[dapper venture]

what is the significance of 2 zons

2 zons is just 1 zon

[livid topaz]

No the conversion don’t make sense now

[vivid stirrup]

like think about how prestigious an amazon job is

[livid topaz]

I think we are low balling two sigma and high balling stripe this power scaling is shit

[fierce pendant]

@peak cave why did u have to invent the zon scale

[vivid stirrup]

2 zons means that the job is twice as prestigious

as amazon

[vivid stirrup]

what do you think

is right

[livid topaz]

Ok but like is aws like

1.1 Zon?

[fierce pendant]

aws should lowkey be a separate entry from amazon

[vivid stirrup]

hmmm

[dapper venture]

what does amazon stores team work on

[vivid stirrup]

well first we need to standardize the zon currency

[swift moat]

why do ppl act like aws and zon are like two worlds apart they're the same bruh

[hidden shuttle]

isnt aws worse for wlb and stability compared to zon though?

[next barn]

Zonflation

[fierce pendant]

very org dependent

[livid topaz]

This is like saying super saiyan god Goku is 0.7 beerus when it was reconned

[fierce pendant]

ec2 oncall is fried i’ve heard

[undone mirage]

generally yes but org / team dependent

[swift moat]

aws compute is fried in general

[vivid stirrup]

1 zon = one internship sde at normal amazon during your junior year

[dapper venture]

why junior year

[proud mauve]

How many Zon is hrt

[opal needle]

holy cracked

[vivid stirrup]

just need an anchor because i think the year matters. like a freshman year zon internship is definitley more prestigious than a junior year one

[livid topaz]

idk how to convert quant units to big tech units

I’m not well versed in this subject

[dapper venture]

fair

[swift moat]

what'd he do after 2017

[livid topaz]

Big tech is like dragon ball z scaling and quant is like dragon ball super scaling so idk

[vivid stirrup]

if this is the standard defintion of a zon, then i'd say a google is 1.3 zons?

[vivid stirrup]

this

[craggy moth]

jump hates canadian schools💔

[livid topaz]

So the jump from zon to google is like a jump from umd to standford ?

[proud mauve]

Ok Deepmind to Zon then

[green elk]

much more

[livid topaz]

That’s like GT scaling idk

[proud mauve]

Lmao

[vivid stirrup]

maybe honestly

theres so many variables here

[livid topaz]

Might be ssj4 gogeta level

[opal needle]

google is at least 1.5 zon

[vivid stirrup]

this is a difficult problem

[green elk]

google can go as high as 2.5zon

[vivid stirrup]

it definitely flucuates year by year though

[vivid stirrup]

deepmind is like 10zons

[livid topaz]

This is a high balling

[opal needle]

different but 1.5 stands when talking abt avg zon team vs avg google

[livid topaz]

Yuh comparing z to gt doesn’t make sense

[green elk]

its an upper bound

[vivid stirrup]

this is hard man

this could take up an entire day of research

[green elk]

its not that complicated

faang+ > zon > else

[vivid stirrup]

what's the conversion from salary to zon

like if a ft job is paying 200k/yr how many zons is that

new grad role

[green elk]

its not rlly salary

[dapper venture]

zon pays 180k u can just compare there

[vivid stirrup]

it might help make a conversion though

[green elk]

zon si unit is just prestige/res val

[vivid stirrup]

i want a formula

[green elk]

theres many factors including ng salary

[green elk]

no formula

its just vibes

[vivid stirrup]

i bet i can make a fairly accurate formula if i have some high signal factors

i think salary is pretty high signal

great shout

[green elk]

how are you quantifying qualitative factors

[vivid stirrup]

this is perfect thanks

[opal needle]

since when did google become 1

[gritty breach]

apparently amazon's interviewing until may (unclear when the last day is)

[opal needle]

holy

[livid topaz]

idk bro I don’t do research on this tbh

[hard zodiac]

what are we looking at

[steel wind]

huh

[green elk]

that site is botted daily lol

[vivid stirrup]

it has elo score this is perfect

how the fuck is openai less than google though

[opal needle]

intel and indeed 😭🙏🙏✌️✌️✌️

[gritty breach]

yea it's so wild

[livid topaz]

We have to go back to the manga to power scale better I think

[steel wind]

did anyone get may interview date??

[gritty breach]

imagine you get offer like a week before your start date

[green elk]

that site is botted, theres better prestige ranking sites than that one

[gritty breach]

[steel wind]

exactly

how do u een do onboarding and bg check

[gritty breach]

how tf are you gonna do all the onboarding

[steel wind]

in a week

[gritty breach]

and find housing

and shit

[steel wind]

LOL

atleast

[green elk]

one min im on mobile

[undone mirage]

they're gonna make you take their 100 dollar a day intern housing

[steel wind]

teams are hc

[undone mirage]

😭

[steel wind]

arent*

if theyre still interviewing

[vivid stirrup]

https://plonkd.com/software-engineering-companies-prestige/rankings

this is fire

[vivid stirrup]

lowk perf ranking

[green elk]

yeah this is the better one

this ones not as botted

for now

[undone mirage]

who is genuinely ranking microsoft so high

[lilac hemlock]

Where IBM at

[vivid stirrup]

pretty low ouch

[lilac hemlock]

Wtf

Not top 10???

also lol wtf hashicorp is below ibm

[green elk]

this one isnt elo but decent ranking

https://www.teamblind.com/post/2026-tier-list-median-400k-swe-7-12-yoe-fmtpmfjy

for staff level

[vivid stirrup]

ok so if we use this elo score conversion we can figure out the zons for every company

[livid topaz]

IBM is like late dragon ball I think

[gritty breach]

real

[undone mirage]

elo rating websites will never work

cause u can bot it + opinions are opinions

[lilac hemlock]

lol good way to put it

[livid topaz]

Yuh I think like

[quaint basalt]

https://www.rossrankings.com/

im pretty sure i maxed out their vercel plan and broke their site when it first launched

L security

[undone mirage]

just gotta come up with some score based on tc + blind ratings

most credible way tbh

[quaint basalt]

no such thing as a good elo ranking system

[echo obsidian]

also in the way elo algos work lol

[livid topaz]

FAANG and FAANG+ is like dragon ball Z and like Upper Big Tech is like GT and then like super is like quant and daima is DEI big tech and like everything else is like dragon ball

[undone mirage]

these websites are ranking off "battles"

[gritty breach]

elo is meant to be a metric to roughly rank your skill vs other people. It only makes sense if "winning" means besting the opponent in a competition of skill (like winning a chess game). You defeat the entire point of elo if you define "winning" as someone picking A over B arbitrarily

[echo obsidian]

the fact that u can do a battle between something like jane street and some rando company with like way lower elo

if someone trolls it its cooked u get like -50 or some shi

[undone mirage]

elo rating through stackranking companies arbitrarily based on your own perception of them at the time

[undone mirage]

instead of actual numbers

[echo obsidian]

is cluely pivoting ?

[knotty steeple]

Deep mind at 44 💀💀💀

[vivid stirrup]

Ok so IBM has 1154 elo vs amazon that has 1442 elo, and using the elo expected win probability formula that means amazon wins 80% of the time, ibm wins 11% of the time, and they draw 8% of the time. so i think that means that IBM is worth 0.19 zons

[undone mirage]

roy lee makes podcasts now what do you think 😭

[echo obsidian]

wait highkey some of his podcast i see on instagram aint so bad

theyre kinda funny

[undone mirage]

saw him making a podcast saying something like how people in quant are chasing money when they could be bettering humanity

[livid topaz]

I think this is awful analysis

[rain skiff]

sydney sweeny's bro

[undone mirage]

like the nerve

😭

[knotty steeple]

Yeah I was gonna say lowkey

[vivid stirrup]

alright what do you think i should do

[green elk]

yes

[opal needle]

✌️✌️😂

[livid topaz]

I think a logorthnic model is more appropriate for this

[undone mirage]

???

[gritty breach]

ok if literally anyone else in the world said this, I'd support them. But Roy Fucking Lee saying this is frying me LMFAO

[rain skiff]

where are these elo stats from

[lilac hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-shocked-gif-9885796698302419555

[opal needle]

his company is now just him running the insta

[livid topaz]

Is this true

[vivid stirrup]

i'll look into it

[vivid stirrup]

https://plonkd.com/software-engineering-companies-prestige/rankings

[lilac hemlock]

rip i couldnt get trapping rain water

ts buns

[livid topaz]

But like

[knotty steeple]

If it’s ur first run that’s fine

[livid topaz]

I think ibm was lwk in elo hell rn

It’s gonna get better

[knotty steeple]

Medium 2 pointer questions do not prepare you for trapping rain water lmao

[rain skiff]

how is scaleai so high

[undone mirage]

https://www.tiktok.com/@cluely_fanboy/video/7625290993583115551?q=roy lee quant&t=1776641679851

[knotty steeple]

It’s a very unintuitive problem

[vivid stirrup]

elo is already logarithmic though

i'm not that good at math though ngl

[lilac hemlock]

this makes me feel better/i actually thought i was onto something with my solution but it kinda just killed me

[vivid stirrup]

maybe there is a better conversion

[undone mirage]

all hards i feel are "intuitive" in a human sense like we could solve it in some kind of human fashion but the natural intuition is usually suboptimal

[vivid stirrup]

i think the naive elo expected win percentage is the best we've got

[rain skiff]

aren't all CEOs like consultants ex McKinsey

[livid topaz]

This is what ruby thinks of you guys

[undone mirage]

😭

[lilac hemlock]

maybe i shouldve tried to brute force it first

rather than search directly for optimal

[livid topaz]

This is the average loo hater

[undone mirage]

yo

weren't u hating on loo earlier

u were mega hating

[knotty steeple]

Well the interpretation of this doesn’t fully make sense

[undone mirage]

isn't even me these days yall are dogpiling on the loo hate train

[knotty steeple]

I think the elo formula spits out an expected value not a win probability

And then how did u get the Zon points

[gritty breach]

if you have no idea who's saying this, you'd actually agree with this. It's just funny that Roy Lee's saying it

[livid topaz]

I would stop defending loo rn

[opal needle]

yeah precisely why mckinsey is prestigious

[vivid stirrup]

https://wismuth.com/elo/calculator.html#rating1=1758&rating2=1442&system=goratings i'm using this i'm not exactly sure how it works to be honest

[coral cedar]

airing out the dms is crazy work

[undone mirage]

^^

[livid topaz]

I don’t like loo

[coral cedar]

ur school basically has the same abbreviation tho

[rain skiff]

hi peeps

[undone mirage]

if someone offered you their spot at loo would u take it and like loo

[livid topaz]

no im not Canadian

[undone mirage]

you can go anyways

not like they exclusively take canadians

[livid topaz]

uw Madison isn’t uw nor uw

[livid topaz]

Why would I sacrifice my gun to go to Canada

[coral cedar]

close enough

[undone mirage]

so true

@fierce pendant

[fierce pendant]

u invented zon base unit

[undone mirage]

truly a cscd degenerate

[livid topaz]

Thank you my goat

[undone mirage]

and you're new

😭

[livid topaz]

You might have reach knight levels

[vivid stirrup]

i found the perfect formula (elo odds ratio formula)

[undone mirage]

knight's banned

[livid topaz]

you sign the petition for him yesterday

[vivid stirrup]

guys i actually did it

i'm a genius

[lilac hemlock]

LMAO

[livid topaz]

Holy shit

[undone mirage]

can u send the petition

i'll sig nit

[unique robin]

this is so funny

[undone mirage]

he trolled a lot

[livid topaz]

I can’t I got a stern talking to by the mods

[unique robin]

cryi

😭

[lilac hemlock]

bro

[livid topaz]

He yelled at me

[rain skiff]

how many zons is c1

[unique robin]

how many zons

[vivid stirrup]

lemme check

[rain skiff]

how many zons is idrama labs

[lilac hemlock]

my incoming is 0.07 zons am i cooked 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[unique robin]

i guess in a way it makes sense

[undone mirage]

icarus is revolutionizing the prestige market

[unique robin]

idrama is firmly like between 5-6 zons

[rain skiff]

how many zons == 1 idrama labs

[lilac hemlock]

dont do this it will unironically do numbers on there

[unique robin]

maybe 6-7 if you’re mts

[vivid stirrup]

https://plonkd.com/software-engineering-companies-prestige/rankings i don't see them on the list here

[lilac hemlock]

mfs bouta be like "wow c1 at 2 zons now? guess zonflation was inevitable"

[undone mirage]

i think he just like genuinely gave bad advice to new people who asked genuine questions

[sharp ledge]

holy fuck i hate cscd

[undone mirage]

ironically

[sharp ledge]

what are yall yapping about now

[vivid stirrup]

hold on i'm going to make a master list

holy fuck guys

[undone mirage]

they're standardizing the unit of prestige

[vivid stirrup]

this is revolutionary research

[lilac hemlock]

then leave

lawl

[unique robin]

doing gods work

[green elk]

google and stripe got zonflated here tbh

[vivid stirrup]

i feel like newton

that

is too much for now lmao

[lilac hemlock]

my incoming is 0.000001 zons bro im approaching the limit

help me

[vivid stirrup]

i'll just make a spreadsheet

[echo obsidian]

how many zons is cscd mod

[undone mirage]

that's 100 zons

at least

[lilac hemlock]

yo 💀

[livid topaz]

Wow

[unique robin]

don’t forget idrama

[hidden shuttle]

c1 on top

[gritty breach]

is it weird that I'm seeing so many more people with zon offer this year compared to last year?

are they really hiring less?

[lilac hemlock]

that doesnt sound right

[livid topaz]

Cause you were not there less year

[undone mirage]

bias cause they're mostly sending out intvws this month

[green elk]

zonflation

[gritty breach]

maybe I just paid much more attention this year than last year

[vivid stirrup]

use the elo odds ratio formula

[unique robin]

there were a million offers last yr

[vivid stirrup]

with zon at 1442 elo

[unique robin]

and a lot this year

[undone mirage]

more like just this month

[unique robin]

true

[urban ore]

hrt is 0.7 zons tbh

[unique robin]

amazon is my dream

[gritty breach]

yea i think I just paid much less attention

[undone mirage]

you aren't the same person anymore ayman.

you're a big quant now.

[livid topaz]

This is not a good formula cause as R goes up then this thing blows up prestigious is more log

[unique robin]

no

[rain skiff]

attention is all you need

[unique robin]

dude

[opal needle]

wait no cap this is pretty accurate

[unique robin]

can we stop trying to larp for me

[urban ore]

ayman so goated

ong

[undone mirage]

if you're not a quant

what are you

[unique robin]

i’m just a crud bob

[rain skiff]

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-slander-jjk-fans-yURRpSmOFPiPAQ4Mw2

[livid topaz]

@peak cave

[undone mirage]

hell no 😭

[vivid stirrup]

@lilac hemlock ibm is 0.19 zons 😭

[lilac hemlock]

LOL

[unique robin]

.19

W

[livid topaz]

it’s not even 50% of zon?

That’s like

[urban ore]

what’s the r in the formula

[lilac hemlock]

i can already hear the stack ranking

[livid topaz]

Goku from like

Early dragon ball

Vs Goku from late dragon ball

[lilac hemlock]

"this candidate's resume is only about 0.27 zons cumulative"

[unique robin]

😭 😭

[lilac hemlock]

-> rejected

[vivid stirrup]

what have we done 😭

[unique robin]

how does this formula account for teams @vivid stirrup

[undone mirage]

goku from db super is like 1000000x early goku vs frieza

[rain skiff]

how many zons is idrama labs

[livid topaz]

ok you are right

[urban ore]

aws is 1.2 zons btw

[livid topaz]

I don’t think so

[lilac hemlock]

💀

[urban ore]

keep this in mind

[unique robin]

amazon aws is 1.2 zons

[livid topaz]

AWS is 1.1 Zons

[unique robin]

truly revolutionary

[lilac hemlock]

amazon is 0.8 amazons bro

[vivid stirrup]

it doesn't have an elo

on the site i'm using

[green elk]

aws is like a shorthand unit for zon like Vrms vs V

[urban ore]

that was yesterday did u not see the market today

[unique robin]

.039

[lilac hemlock]

holy hell 😭 😭 😭

[vivid stirrup]

alright i'm having gpt make a master list

[livid topaz]

As akira toriyama says you only need a power level of 1.2 times to truly mog an opponent

so like

Aws doesn’t truly mog Zon

[lilac hemlock]

2025 zon is 0.5 2026 zons

[urban ore]

real

[rain skiff]

@unique robin

wtf is this fuckass site

how is google higher than gdm

are we troll

[unique robin]

idk who’s making the website

they don’t know what they’re doing

[rain skiff]

can we use a more reliable website

[green elk]

honestly, it would be cool if there was an agent that you could input any company and it could pull sentiment context from blind/reddit/cscd etc and output zon value based on some qualitative rubric

[livid topaz]

This tier list is like early day dragon ball scaling

we can’t use this anymore

we have more accurate measures of power scaling now

[proud mauve]

https://prestigeindex.fyi

[vivid stirrup]

oh shit

[livid topaz]

this is the job of us intellectuals

[proud mauve]

Lmao I find it funny ppl are making a bunch of those tier lists

[livid topaz]

Holy shit I need to lock in

Bye guys

[rain skiff]

interesting that two sigma is higher than radix

radix too lol

[vivid stirrup]

this site lowk goated

[lilac hemlock]

i didnt know virtu was that high

[proud mauve]

I have no ideas bro 😭

I didn't make the site

[opal needle]

wait yeah that site is good

[vivid stirrup]

i'm going to recalculate the zon scale based on this site

i will get back to you

[proud mauve]

😭

[rain skiff]

how many zons is c1

[frank hornet]

how do you find ts

[vivid stirrup]

fuh c1 isn't on either sites yet

[rain skiff]

also how is cohere so low

[vivid stirrup]

what do you think c1 is comparable to

[rain skiff]

c1 is on here

[proud mauve]

Idek

[vivid stirrup]

what's it called?

[rain skiff]

capital one 💀

[vivid stirrup]

oh fuck i thought there was a company called c1

[proud mauve]

I just saw it somewhere

[lilac hemlock]

is trapping rain water an important question

i guess so because it has 17k results

holy

[rain skiff]

are we trolling

[vivid stirrup]

alright let me see

[rain skiff]

Deepmind TC is 215?

????

[proud mauve]

I mean Ig the TC is not accurate

But the rating is decent enough lol

[rain skiff]

google is a bit inflated imo

[rain skiff]

google > radix?

[rain skiff]

[livid topaz]

So C1 is 0.07 Zon?

[rain skiff]

0.073

[livid topaz]

So 7% of zon is C1

[rain skiff]

7.3%

[proud mauve]

Ye I think Radix is a bit low

[dire dirge]

there's also this https://prestigerank.com/

[vivid stirrup]

that checks out

[rain skiff]

like bro

[vivid stirrup]

this one is botted

[rain skiff]

how do we have palantir over roblox

[dire dirge]

yea nvm that one is shit

[proud mauve]

I didn't make the site bro 😭

[livid topaz]

so half of a zon average employee is still 12 times better than a c1 employee

Damn

So 10x faang dev is true then

[vivid stirrup]

but the site is directionaly right on average

[vivid stirrup]

holy shit dude

this is crazy

[dire dirge]

atlassian above ripling is wild

[proud mauve]

@noble lion

[rain skiff]

bro my inc aint even on this list

i might be fucked

[queen vortex]

Which list

[rain skiff]

https://prestigeindex.fyi/

[knotty steeple]

Who made this website 💀💀💀💀💀💀

[rain skiff]

look for cohere btw

[vivid stirrup]

the master list in being calculated as we speak

[rain skiff]

valid

[knotty steeple]

😭😭

[noble lion]

Its vote based

[livid topaz]

This website is plagued with the uneducated normies not in tech. We should have an electoral college to decide

[knotty steeple]

IBM hate is so forced

(I’m biased)

[rain skiff]

can everyone here do 30 matches?

[rain skiff]

should be enough to fix

[queen vortex]

That list is cooked

Why is msft so high

[rain skiff]

30 * 30 = 900 which is like 4.5%

should be enough to fix in right direction

[knotty steeple]

Box at -545 💀

[unique robin]

why don’t we make a cscd approved one

[green elk]

apparently these are all ngmi

[queen vortex]

Make one

[vivid stirrup]

yeah everyone do some matches

https://prestigeindex.fyi/

let's make it more accurate

[unique robin]

last time i made a tier list someone stole it and went viral

[proud mauve]

Lol

[lilac hemlock]

was that actually yours

[knotty steeple]

This one also fried. IBM and PayPal right next to each other

[dire dirge]

this was from a while ago

no way LMFAO

mfs were hating

but it's not bad imo

[rain skiff]

alright ive done my part

[dire dirge]

i think quant as a whole should be a separate category

[vivid stirrup]

fuck @livid topaz if R is too big the formula blows up

[queen vortex]

Alr i did 15

[vivid stirrup]

might need to tweak the formula

[queen vortex]

Everyone do a few

[vivid stirrup]

zons is the green box

[urban ore]

bro i joined this server cause someone told me about ts

lmao

[rain skiff]

💀

[livid topaz]

This is what I said

[green elk]

N is already too large

[vivid stirrup]

you think HRT is worth 227 zons?

that's crazy inflation

[rain skiff]

30*30 is like 5%

just have 30 people do 30 each

[knotty steeple]

Accurate

[noble lion]

Might be the worst possible argument against that ranking

[queen vortex]

Lets float zon to top 30

[livid topaz]

So like 200 Zon employees is not even 1 HRT employeee

[noble lion]

Yes

[proud mauve]

Lmao

[knotty steeple]

Lowkey agree

[rain skiff]

200 zon internships == 1 hrt internship

[distant fox]

Ive never seen a company get their dick sucked in unison like this. Its a fucking market manipulator that pays alot holy shit

[queen vortex]

How many c1 internships for 1 valve intern

[rain skiff]

valve is rank 0 on this list ngl

[knotty steeple]

Ur neglecting the experience aspect

[dire dirge]

this prestige shit is gayer than looksmaxxing ngl

[lilac hemlock]

i get the solution of trapping rain water now 😔 dont know if i wouldve thought of this lowkey

[tranquil sand]

Valve has 0 interns

They do not hire below senior

[distant fox]

SO REAL

[rain skiff]

they used to no?

[tranquil sand]

Do they deadass

[rain skiff]

i swear i heard a story

[queen vortex]

They did ye

[dire dirge]

Zon = MTN? Databricks = chadlite

[proud mauve]

I remember there used to be a website where u rank LinkedIn profile

[distant fox]

ngmi is the new sub5

[vivid stirrup]

bet

[proud mauve]

I think it got taken down tho

[rain skiff]

highkey accurate

db is a bit too high but allg

google too ngl

[knotty steeple]

Rentech in its own tier

[tranquil sand]

Tf is this XD

[proud mauve]

I think DB and Google is too high

[queen vortex]

Why is dm below hrt 🤔

[rain skiff]

isnt it still up

[rain skiff]

it is

🤷‍♂️

[vivid stirrup]

the list

[green elk]

bro how is google 96 zons

[proud mauve]

Can u send me the link

[rain skiff]

deepmind research role vs hrt research role

[vivid mirage]

msft in A+ but zon B+ is crazy

[rain skiff]

https://ranktherivalry.com/

[proud mauve]

Maybe swap Google with Radix and DB with Optiver

Should be good

[vivid stirrup]

zon has a pretty low elo on this site

therefore there is a bit zonflation

[tranquil sand]

Do I prep dp and backtracking for Zon

[tranquil sand]

GitHub is 1.5x Zon???

[rain skiff]

numbers need to be normalized highkey

[tranquil sand]

That's how you know this list is wrong cuz everyone I know would take Zon over GitHub

[rain skiff]

elo calculation is incorrect

[tranquil sand]

Like bro wtf is this lmao

[peak cave]

no way anduril is 48

[rain skiff]

how is scaleai 53

maybe 153

[queen vortex]

U just gonna ignore nasa?

[tranquil sand]

Where is c1

On this list

[rain skiff]

22

[tranquil sand]

22 zons? Or 22 elo

[rain skiff]

both

its 78 elo

[peak cave]

incredible

[rain skiff]

and its also ranked 78th

lol

[vivid stirrup]

0.073 zons

[rain skiff]

[peak cave]

I like the idea of the Zons ranking

but the actual list is terrible

[rain skiff]

fix it then

[dawn valve]

Why DoorDash so low

[finite mortar]

whut dd at?

[peak cave]

too much work