#2025_fall
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cuz at my old role I spent hours coding wasting time on annoying features I could’ve just used AI
Nooooo

Pls refrain from using the j word here
Interesting
😭😭
Horny bastard
The j word is behind all of the worlds problems 😠
Thanks for not saying it
KAI CENAT MR BEAST STREAMER UNIVERSITY POKIMANE VALKYRAE MINECRAFT GOONING UNEMPLOYMENT VALORANT
Helped me calm down
Where is fanum tax
What is happening
Oh shit u right
Thanks for calming me down
Halloweekend at UIUC is peak
Like acrually
yes
I was an anti-social nerd, so I am out of touch, haha. I didn't know about this.
I think im just gonna die
Sounds like a plan 😊
Damn
Maybe dm me their full name? I’m not rlly good with initials tbh
i woke up hour and half ago
They’re my year so idt uk them
am i cooked
Speak to me oh toothless one
No
what does this mean
@supple hull bro go work what is this behavior
We’re not even allowed really
When we load up ChatGPT it tells us what we can and can’t do
I’m genuinely documenting this and sending it all to auta
At work rn
Waiting for mentor to give me perms
….
stop
stop saying that
Idk July
They told me I can and they don’t care
Gemini pro unlimited too 😮💨😮💨
What company so I can buy puts
Oh is it enterprise api?
Nvm
we are the enterprise
Tbh
I just paste code and shit into gpt
Haven’t been fired yet
The work is painfully boring
So I just gpt it
any1 from loo get wealthimsple oa?
huh
bro got an interview with a bbg
all seriousness probably bloomberg?
i see
ya
bro pulled out the reciepts 💀
wait bloomberg dropped?
Amd is top 300, Nvidia is top 3, wild comparison
idk abt internship but bloomberg new grads open in august from reachouts that happened in may
how do I get reach out
Same here ^^
u got r/o?
yeah after my linkedin post
it’s prolly cuz i have a friend who commented working there so a recruiter saw the post
whole ahh process too just for their summer school program thing
U should send
I need the connections

what the orzzzzzzzzzzz
yeah ... i j got c1 r/o ...
are u a zon summer?
nah was js wondering
How do you have aura
Holy glaze
she’s going to be finance bro dw
How do I start auramaxxing, poppy 🙏?
making software pipelines to reject ngmis
<@&868936794601828492>
double it and give it to the next person
quadruple it and give it to the next person

Not quant
I forgot who but someone said that most acceptances were ex quant
🤷 idk then
I meant this cycle
lol
Oh idk
That’s actually perfect! I recently lost my laptop so this helps a ton
!ban @steel plinth scam pomo
Banned jelly080929

man i’m so fucking cooked for fall
We have time 🙌
DMs bro … dms
thanks 4 meta referral btw couldnt have done it without u
@small timber you got me for summer 2026 apple 😏
no
ohhhhh okay thank you @pallid garnet
jobs arent actually real
It must be some Folie Deux phenomenon.
any good fall or winter opening
oh im for us
fu
?
what fall is everyone applying to
i work for charlie y’all should be asking him
fr charlie has hella apple referrals to give out
anyone know about Snowflake Fall Co-op interview process?
@supple hull @plucky garnet I just got back home from work
orz
💀💀
censor pls
And I just woke up gng
Time to go for run and then to work again
Hell well ong
3 more days left of this
@pallid garnet operation silicon storm not going good gng
Gonna continue for the rest of the week and see
Finally, my Northrop Grumman recruiter responded 
It has been a long battle trying to get the attention of Defense companies 😭

hopefully you dont get the job
I should just 🪢 😔
do you live near chicago?
Ye
let me know when youre by a popeyes so i can get u as my uber driver
is whatnot orz?
bro what 😭
ok ok valid
i got the mozzarella lore dump
bro 6 hours yesterday
ong i wish i was gay
i was fighting bad documentation
i can help that
i just woke up bro
got an interview in 15 minutes
i was fighting suicidal ideation
for a start up
you okay brother?
your idea is still goated it will flourish
yh ik its fine, my mentor said wait for we will discuss in perosn
he comes tmr
god bless
Bro applying to every company with oai😭
oh
yoooo whatt
My friend turned it down for Amazon bro…..
bros side questing now atp😭
one of my really good friends was at whatnot last summer and openai this summer
but its not a pipline he's just a different beast
so its good? lwk i know a little bit about it my friend trades pokemon cards and shit
and i think its a big place for that
bro you named two companies on legit different fields
no bro
how does the field matter
those companies are mid companies that u recognize but dont particularly care anyone interned there
like its Legit just a company
whatnot is a marketplace basically right? i think having a good team on whatnot could be good but on average id say prolly amazon is better
for res value
shit looks like bloatware
imma make you bloatware
thats crazy
thank god for microwavable rice
its feeding me so good
🙏
im in the trenches in this city
who said its a kink
its a sorrow
😭
remember when pyrocinical or whatever his name was proved hes not a pedo by showing hes into inflated furries
crazy times @jagged coyote
reminds me of you
anyway
wtf
yapperoni
yeah @jagged coyote ur cooked
gpt-5o gives furry bloat inflation feeder vibes
pedo is crazy 😂
thank you thank you, i feel like if we open up his history
its gonna be a lot of tigers
hes a tiger guy
anyone got lc premium? can I get bloomberg tagged
yo wtf
thats hundreds of questions gang
arent u bengali?
yuh
no hes indian
that would make sense
bengali indian
welp true
idk how premium works do u see the frequent ones?
nah a lot of bengali people dont like fish
unironically hward of applovin
applovin sounds like a bluetooth vibrator app
Yeema
Operation silicon storm
Yeema I’m sorry
Let me do one more thing
they no hire
maybe the real fall 2025 was our downfall after sunmer
been focusing on fall that my ro is gone
Anyone have experience with Machine Learning/Co-op Intern interview at Cohere? Plz DM me if you do
@hasty orchid worked there in the spring he probably know
Sir it's June
just to clarify this is what Waterloo taught me
WaterlooWorks has Winter/Spring/Fall sections
Jan - April is also spring
Waterloo is probably different bc they got a quarter system. In the US Jan - April is usually spring
we have 3 seasons
Like not literal seasons, work seasons
I guess that means I need to click into spring jobs as winter now
I didn’t know that
i think whatnot started fall outreach
rec initials?
can someone sauce me whatnot recruiter name
ive seen other people do the same, so just curious
x2
bridget@whatnot.com enjoy
Goat
but im serious what's the point
i mean essentially to keep identity anonymous. think of it like a hash function. u dont want to give the password away but you dont mind giving away the hash value so that someone can identify or cross reference which one of their passwords it was
using RO as leverage for speeding up process and negotiation
applied to my 11th nvidia role
will 11th time be the charm? stay tuned
how is wlb/pa at nvidia?
imagine if we both get selected
It is cooked. 1000+ applications with nothing to show for it 😭
Holy ass
Trump has signed an executive order to develop a flying cars program in the US and increase US-made drone production
FLYING CARS
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ok $20 hour is kinda cringe but i feel like working at npr for off season is kinda aura???
maybe i am biased
just like npr
😭😭 what do u use, joe rogan?
nah i write my own news
need that agentic written cscd newsletter
hop on it
yc bound idea fr
oh i thought it was remote
damn
their web dev and other stuff is remote
idk why they made this one specifically hybrid
prob to shadow their “head of ai labs” who prolly doesn’t know shit about ai
i still get rejects left right and center which i wouldn't think would be an issue
at this point its like what more can i do
idk, i think its up to the manager tbh. i had a behavioral + tech interview but it was pretty easy since it was java and java is basically my
and 🧈
it was pretty free, three interviews asking about your exp and going through your resume but YMMV
also heard they're crazy selective
it was definitely interesting bc i go to basically a no name uni and i was sitting next to harvard students lmaoooo
talking about how they just came back from their vacation homes in italy
and im like ah... i see. i just overdrew my account bc rent is crazy
how do u get ukg fall? is it gone already
Tekkennnnn
https://www.ewgf.gg if u r interested :3
TEKKEN 8 Character Statistics, Player Profiles, Leaderboards, and Rank Distribution
Nice nice
i love love love making this proj and will shill any time its mentioned
I remember checking it out a while ago lol
luck + timing
when does the app open or is it gone alread
oh idk
Damn
Rich fr
i think they open sometime in july or late june
Bro I remember meeting someone who goes to Colombia who was saying
First class is for broke people
And I’m like

lmfao
God I wish I was rich
do u think i am cooked for 26 grad if i only have one summer intern which is this year
Just lock tf in
nah
For ro
just lock in
Where u at
having 1 internship >>>>>>> having 0
If u don’t mind me asking
nope but i heard some people did
how is that going
i hear u '
And my ide is being a troll rn too
i haven't touched leetcode in ages, ireally should
lol
but im just kinda like fuck it
Should i go for ro or fall intern and delay to go for another summer intern
Started to relearn it in c++ and my vs code just stopped working
Lowke maybe try a fall intern
delay if u can tbh
J&j doesn’t pay that much
depends when u grad
Any advice for fall
Cuz i dont hear back from shit
Ive applide to whatever i see open
prayer
5 day rto for tesla and zon is what amkes me 😭
Idk
if ur aws
im aws
Whats rto
Im aws wl for summer and i just asked fall
I passed the interview
Ive been waiting for like months
On wl
very unlikely there are hards for intern
I forgot who but someone here got 2 heads or smth
lol
@pallid garnet did u get nvidia process
Just do tagged
what year r u
2 hards *
Like incoming fresh?
So u gonna grad in 26?
Oh idk if it’s Amazon then, I was having a discussion about smth and it got brought up
So ur a sophomore basically but grad year early
It was months ago
the leetcode bot also has oa questions and qs for ft
well like its accurate in the fact that it was asked that many number of times
150 is if u wanna learn ur dsa
in previous interviews
@edgy vine what is bro yapping about
Esp if ur saying u can do some mediums
u pissing me off sami
premium
good luck 🐐
is there a shopify server for fall?
i just made 500 accounts to prevent that from happening
average shop enjoyer
wait
crazy how much work I can get done if I dont go on discord
guys am i gmi or ngmi
PMED you
@pallid garnet there might be some hope
can someone check whether the questions i prepped for during the interview are good?
Bro I got so much shit done in 35 minutes of being locked in
Word
Bro I am on discord less and still don’t get shit done. Actually pathetic af
deadass 😭?
wya this summer
what is blud yapping aboit
Anyone know if you can push snowflake fall to spring?
Idts
Snow bitches like that
Same
im getting blackliste from pinterest for sure
proctored exam and i just copy and pasted the questions for my OA bank
are u pinterest fall
the oa was
i got another one from pinterest so hopefully it’s the same
surely they don’t check the recordings
they're tryna see if you'll do it again
Is there a Pinterest fall swe opening?
you got me for referral
how tf u getting proc twice
god i liked leetcode but now i hate it what should i do
bro it’s codesignal no?
can i get a referral pls
no
can i get a referral pls
im too scared to apply to full time jobs...
where are Newgrad openenigns
yeah...should wait till september at least but also pressured
ye from undergrad
might go to grad if i get 2026 zon
ya same lol
idk how people r getting tesla
fr
nah this server is full of gmis
only few ngmi like me
🙏 amen
yuhh
elon companies be like that
tbc interview was the worst in my life
the boring company
they r prolly expanding the loop even more
the one i interviewed for was vegas loop
they're also expanding to dubai
the interviewer guy was just annoying and pressuring
idk
i should lock back to my work
though this shyt lowkey somewhat unmotivating cuz they dont do RO
Where at
what does ! process do btw?
damn bruh what company
did tesla just start requiring 2026 grad this year?
for like alot of their positions
I had a recruiter reach out but my grad date was too late for them
It used to add to the website so u could have a nice visual to see how many ppl were in what process
But it wasn’t great
Oh, that’s a nice idea.
Damn.
You have my support! I will send you $10,000 on Venmo now.
Series C startup
hope not. i legit applied the min it came out
whatnot out but idt it's posted on #intern_postings
just as a friendly heads up for those that wanted 2 apply
stock is going up so maybe hiriing is as well idk
so tell me about yourself
hmm ok
what makes you a good fit for this role?
lets go over ur projects to make sure u didnt vibecode everything and that you actually know your stuff
THE VOICES
Pretty clever
Good for Alexandr
He's now a real billionaire
snowbunnies
where my fall openings at
U mean the pioneer of Ai or something, wrote a big paper about it
that's what the news is saying
but likely a lot of 7 fig salaries and a few 8, and the lucky few ultra senior leads getting 9 ig
9 figures of Pennies for sure
Has anyone done Checkr background check but living in Canada?
whats scale ai email format
ericsson?
yea
man its better than no internship
the worst thing is blanking out
efaang
man it was bad
Thanks broski. I just applied 🙌
what company have apps open rn?
I saw tesla nvdia and splunk, but I doubt they will hire much tho
A bunch of firms.
2025?
what are your processes?
Yessir!
What happened?
what kinda diddy ass job
Idk what happened
Blanked hard, wasn’t expecting some questions, both technical and behavioural
Couldn’t answer exactly questions even
What kind of technical questions did they ask
Dw, it happens, I would say try practicing more mock interviews to get rid of that
@unreal quail you dont need fall gang you need to graduate
you have 5 internships
please
No bro I need tesla fall or I am ngmi
HD is aura loss
whats hd
Home depot
40 remote ...
Yeah $40 hrly but it not good brand name
i applied to all tesla roles yesterday what are my chances
only put prev g and oracle
Insanely high af tbh
aint it kinda late
fuck elon companes why do yuou think im doing tihs
im gonna fail bg check
when they go to see if im still in school
submit everything as well
im intl they care
@unreal quail is it worth reaching out to tesla recruiters
u could but idk why u want tesla bro 😭 , it useless for you
hes doing fo the love of the game
I CANNOT HATE ON ELON AND TESLA PEOPLE
WITHOUT A TESLA PROC
ITS A LINE I CANT CROSS
ok ill schedule some emails for monday
i think 6-7 should do it
ok ill do 3
i can't have people like you to compete against 😭
ok ill schedule some emails for monday
@eager cave where u at this summer
Issok theyll rej u after u do perfect on them
This is some gojo satoru ahh sidequest
Stop
Ur making me feel worse
🥀
@unreal quail help
ok i can add chicken bell peppers and jalapenos to the same tray
and then leave
how do i do beans without having to touch anything
so i can work side by side
nah bro ur fine @jagged coyote just acting werid af
I just hope it dosent happen to u
i already accepted my downfall
i am ngmi
why tf yall so depressing
need tesla fall or i am ngmi
need work for my boi elon
fuck nvidia fall
Fr
nvidia so orz tho
🤡
| Ingredient | Calories | Protein | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 chicken thigh | ~140 | ~21g | Boneless, skinless |
| 1/4 cup black beans | ~60 | ~4g | More if you add 1/2 cup |
| Roasted bell peppers + jalapeños | ~40 | ~1g | Very low cal, high volume |
| Medium tortilla (whole wheat) | ~120 | ~4g | Optional, or swap with rice |
@inland bronze
what we thinking
put some sriracha mayo // salsa and call it a day
i need it to be in oven cuz im not touching anything
should i take a gap quarter even if I have fall remote to grind ng recruiting or take courses and graduate in december my courses would be two random electives and calc 3 asynch online
Depends on what ur summer/fall is and if u want to return there ft or not
both startups that are like series c/d worth around half a billion
and like idk if ill wanna return until i’m there obviously wanna shoot as high as i can tho yk
is scale still hiring?
Bro those both pretty goated af imo
I think they started again for fall
do i need to be cracked to hear back from scale?
i think apple isnt for a specific position they just match ur resume to positions when they open but im not 100% sure
is there a link
are they doing technical advisor for fall
No. I am not cracked and got offer
Yeah I think it same as the summer app
dont they want competitive programmers or competitive math ppl 😭
Yeah I don’t got either
Nah bro. I am ass cp
phrasing guys
LMFAO
Sheesh Amazon goat
Sf so orz
U know people at li? 🔥
env file missing some keys or your github pages is missing something
Just use vercel v0 i use that for frontend always
is it free
limited msg but yea
Yeah it is
Just limited # of messages per day like larry said
should i take a semester off to do tesla or do remote tech startup instead for fall
wt role/team for tesla
embedded
what's the startup
Yeha
i swear most of Tesla is BS outside of AP
some really small ai company called Grasp AI
like 10-50 employees
it is but tesla name still carries
idk im always more for pursuing the larger learning opportunity
but fwiw idk if Grasp is strong enough to drop Tesla
i have some solid projects with raspberry pis and arduinos and gpio stuff, also a lot of fpga stuff but thats more hardware focused vs embedded
if it was something like whatnot / temporal / Groq / deepgram then maybe
do they pay well Grasp AI, are they giving more than tesla or nah
wait groq might not be remote idk
idt pay is the right thing to chase at this current stage
it's going to be a realistic difference of just a couple thousand at best, doesn't make sense in the long run
its like 25 but its remote so i wouldnt have to skip a semester which is the only reaoshn i want it
it not but i am kinda curious lol
yeah one is for my electric scooter, it basically takes in the throttle voltage and plays car noises 😎
so i have a hellcat scooter basically now
all signs lead to Tesla, i think embedded systems team might be one of the less BS teams at Tesla
yeah i agree tesla way better
bet i think ill do that then
thanks : )
i ran into a lot of challenges, i think the overall concept was not too complicated though
i actually made a google slides presentation for it
which i can share
Ooh, I would love to see.
i had to present for an interview at another company
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pmAro2FsQy7lgpFvYCHYxgyPZ38IVjKw9OPPN-08iJg/edit?usp=sharing
im not sure if the demo videos will play
but its a very high level presentation it doesnt get extermely specific
Wow, that was cool.
tesla rejects going crazy today
no rejection for me i didnt apply
they do the most off season out of like everyone
forreal?
i feel tesla referrals dont work the same way tho
Hi guys! Do you guys can suggest me something for Nokia?
yes if u are good fit i will
nah bro u should be fiending for palantir, not tesla
He’s just a little busy rn
what if they actually deploy their FDE on the frontlines
Anything for the internship man
just ask jason to help u, bro is a sys design god
no the jason that goes to ur school
bro he does nothing but sys prep when working at zon 💀
he def getting offer
bro i am NOT
i have accepted that in the worst case scenario that i dont get palantir + don't get amazon RO - i still have 1 more summer
either doing MS or taking a gap
bs/ms is 1 yr if u take the right classes
the hole just keeps getting deeper w system design
and the hole in my ass cuz im getting fucked
do you know how uber ensures each driver receives only one ride request at a time?
distributed lock with a TTL
how do you handle the high write throughput from drivers sending location updates every couple seconds?
use a Redis DB
reed-is
how is the prep for u
@pallid garnet how's fidelity
do you love it
do you love being a fidtern
real. but also pressure creates diamonds 😻
Would u take a RO
fidelity is basically c1 in terms of aura. n we all know c1 gaps FAANG
c1 intern program is js ping pong n free food from wt i’ve heard
nah u got this goat
where y at
really thought the ro there was high af 😭
fire
oh shiii really, nah. trust. they probably made ro for spring bad bc they wanted to give more ro for summer
just need the economy to do a quick 180 bruh
hows zon going
we need zirp era back 🙏
Your getting 1 banana
if it helps i have some friends who work in fidelity and they chose fidelity over nike because the tech stack and career growth from fidelity is better
What about future homeless
Perhaps 🤔
Real shit
I went to a park and saw like so many tents setup man
Shits crazy
Might be the future if I don’t get a RO man
so real
i was just walking to get food and saw a homeless guy on the street right outside my apartment
that might be me in two years
how they gon stop u ❓
go hiking 10h with no food and 2l of water and u will know what its like
hi anyone got the amazon wl channel? please introduce to me
is it too late to start applying to fall internships at bigger companies?
dont be a ngmi and you get RO, I got verbal confirmation for RO from manager + mentor before the end of my third week lol
idk about smaller places but interning at FAANG is borderline one of the easiest things ive ever done
Well, the issue is landing FAANG for me 😢
u got this
do you guys know when 2026 new grad will open up
if i see you fent pose imma act up
which city is hte best to be homeless
landing faang > is fairly doable from any real college (anything thats not like Hustlers U or sum shit like that)
bro gonna take ur cheeks and knows you dont have the ability to tell a trusted adult
😂
How tf within third week
bait used to be believable
because according to my team the average intern is fucking dirt, genuinely interns are three weeks in with no changes in prod its actually disgusting how bad they are
also being super charismatic helps, my manager and I had talk about RO and he was like oh youll just get a full time offer until I told him I wasnt eligible so he said he needed to figure out if hes allowed to give me intern RO instead
idt ive shown up to work on time a single instance since ive started
legit if you do ur work and are sociable + roll a good manager/team you get to do w/e you want i stg
tbh a big part of my success was rolling a super good team
Which faang is this lmao
Damm bro nice
arent you the best thing out of asu or sum like that
stg ive heard about you for telling people you were legit the best outcome out of asu of all time
c1 + zon god I bow to you biggest bro
wait if i dont have an offer off zon waitlist yet is it cooked tho
yea most likely
dw bro Ill actually check for you since I have the power to do so!
goat 🙏🙏
damn thats actually you, thats a wild rep
no lowk tho after working internship I realized how important wlb is
and highk I might give up on recruiting and just take my 200k and 30 hour work weeks
more time to go home and lose on league of legends
🙏
wait @kindred nova was i baited
hell yeah
my mentor knocking back (idr the alcohol it was sum brown one in a fancy bottle) asking me if I want one too
💀
no vro they got back to me and said they were COOKING some shit up for you
be successful
HELL YEA VRO ima email my recruiter rn and check, gonna need ur name and ssn as reference
@prime totem true or false, you have hella supporters and believers and only get haters after "you made it"
my legal name is yeema and my ssn is 736-77-4924
??? you just bullying people or sum?
how you have haters before you even made it
yk there are other offices right?
dude I had nthing but supporters and believers, after I made it ppl started hating tho
its ok im ngmi it too
@plucky garnet my friend interning at seattle tho and said all the harvard kids make cliques and there are a buncha weirdos
also the tweakers are max prestige out there
i havent met a single harvard kid 😭
you in sea?
we only get team dinner once a month 😦
its once a week on my team
every thursday
nah they just elitist cause they harvard not cause zon
they actually buying you food for pimping you out to bezos
i get wym tho
im surprised you didnt just get ur peers tryna get to faang like you
Ive found that almost everyone ive met were very receptive to advice and shit from me
damn how you got so many fans bro
my boy international and I got him zon intern this yr and hes a jr
if I make it the homies gotta eat too yfm
bro need that alt acc
yo slide me ur LI
BRO I WAS DRINKING AND SPIT MY SHIT
MY FUCKING FAIRLIFE BRO NOOOOO
ur lying right?
use ts
oh hell nah it actually is
how did that even happen...
theres fairlife on my laptop screen man
fuck you for posting his doxx ts had me laughing so hard
cost of starting ur personal brand bro
LI influencer arc
dont even take RO start selling faang prep and resume reviews
tbf whats the point of posting if you dont want the attention
Im not knocking dont me get me wrong do you
yea
why the fuck?
does c1 + zon handle all the recruiting for you?
real
de shaw app is a pain in the ass ngl
had some dude from anduril reach out to me just to say I wasnt qualified for what he had
💀
I might be the littlest bro
perception from who bro
who could possibly be telling you zon + c1 dont get you in
unless you tryna go jump or sum shit
where you finding all these quant kids who shit on you
all the people w offers ik in small servers and lurking
I have spent the entirety of my internship playing league and doing leetcode
😂
it's prolly the worst one tbh
anyone here familiar with codeium interview process?
yea
i got my offer recinded last year cuz of my gpa
somewhere else
LMAO i raised it a bit this yr
hasnt made a big difference though
it wasnt great
70
??
Which company
hey i heard you got the aquatic OA, do you have the recruiter name for it?
anyone at amazon new york this fall?
I wrote a quick blog post for first those who are in their first internship but who know maybe we all can find value here. https://christopheralphonse.com/blog/navigating-your-first-internship
:(
Def will consider thank you for the tip, but wouldnt it be too late atp because I already applied?
I see. I'll send him a dm hopefully I wont be a bother
@small timber get me apple referral 🙏
@small timber appl ref please
whats the process like?
Is there a specific process to follow or I can just send a DM request for Apple referral?
are u trolling or being fr
listen to charlie.
Maybe if we tag him enough, he will notice?
Not auto
start up wants to do an on-site
can i just do a call cause aint no way i’m going there
12 dollar uber
No idt so but Optimus is like cool ai stuff also
when did u apply

