2024_grads

[serene linden]

that time

[novel yacht]

maybe

[runic mural]

Anyone has CL as their recruiter at DoorDash?

[runic mural]

Anyone in DoorDash process who accidentally got the vo invite for intern instead of ng?

[ashen zealot]

Did anyone give SDE 2 Amazon interview ?

[nova sluice]

Which org

[ashen zealot]

stores

[nova sluice]

gl 🫡

[ashen zealot]

Thanks 😄

[unborn glacier]

Anyone have tips for how to better connect with recruiters?

[obtuse vortex]

Height in bio, low sodium diet, thumb pulling

[unborn glacier]

I got sent an Amazon OA after last interview 6 months ago. This one is expected to take 2 hours instead of the first one taking 3.5 to 4 hours. Does anyone know which sections are included/excluded from this one?

[proven gulch]

Which role

[unborn glacier]

Sde 1

[zinc salmon]

You got OA after reject same role after 6 months !?!

[unborn glacier]

Yeah different listing.

[unborn glacier]

Is the cooldown not 6 months?

My app is from February

[unborn glacier]

You didn’t try?

[zinc salmon]

My cooldown is 1 year. 😦

[tacit zephyr]

Hi guys, looking for somebody to prep together for Data Engineering mocks at Meta onsite interview. Pls DM if interested!

[obsidian pasture]

this is true though

since the auto reject will come into play and after you apply + reject(auto) , you cant reapply for same position

this is also typically how it works with most companies where you have to wait x time before reapplying after final interview date

[frail owl]

6 months fuck

[tribal saddle]

Same son

I also got cc debt and no source of income and lease ends next month so gonna be homeless soon
And mid brown girl won't text me back either
And I'm intl
#rockbottom

[frail owl]

we are FORSAKEN

[tribal saddle]

Dismayed

[frail owl]

what country?

from where

[tribal saddle]

US

Use that nepo connection to get a job then wtf

[frail owl]

not that type of nepo

not nepo

nepo is the wrong word.

[zinc salmon]

Upper Middle Class / Lower Upper Class

Family is rich enough where you can work at McDonald’s / not work and be comfortable

[zinc salmon]

they will adjust and live with it

[crimson wigeon]

rip

[worn silo]

Fuck your stepmom bro u got this

[wanton tusk]

Sounds exactly what my brother said lol

He complains I should’ve learned something else instead of picking easy cs degree

And how easy everyone else found jobs in sf

[frail owl]

yeah they have pretty high standards, her son is a med student at johns hopkins.

[mint wolf]

y’all is it reasonable for a company to want me to relocate (no assistance) from boston to LA within the month for a contract/intern position?

[ionic linden]

hey guys! did anyone interview for amazon audible

[mint wolf]

ah yeah thats no bueno. so should i just tell my recruiter to fuck off then or 😭

[dusty magnet]

I am trying to find more startup roles to apply to, but besides Wellfound, I don't know too many sites that specialize in that. Any ideas ?

[unborn glacier]

Is gpa important on doordash application?

[unborn glacier]

I should’ve lied

[proven gulch]

What role

[sand reef]

What’s everyone that still don’t have a tech job doing? In June 2024 and now with the new wave of graduates am going Fudge

[onyx bobcat]

Seems like the Strat

R u working

[ionic linden]

sde 1

[proven gulch]

No I got auto rejected for not enough exp. How many YoE you have

[ionic linden]

1.8 ish

[proven gulch]

Ah

I have exactly 1

[proven gulch]

Did you put no on the question where its lkke " do you have 3 years of relevant exp"

[ionic linden]

the role asked me do you have 1+ yrs of exp

it was enrry level sde i guess

[fierce wharf]

How long should I stay at first job before applying for new jobs? I really don't like the city im in. My manager isn't teaching me much either...joined the company cuz the other manager taught me lots of stuff I thought I'd be working close to him.

[buoyant raft]

probably 3 years since entry level is 3 YOE now

some ppl bounce in 1 year, but you can probably only do that once

[rare patio]

Anyone do the Amazon OA and get the printer question?

[solemn mantle]

3 seems safest, but that’s a long time. If they can get an offer at a more prestigious company that’s clearly a level above their current one, I think people would understand leaving the old company sooner than otherwise

[buoyant raft]

yeah like leave in 1 year if its worth it

no lol that's mid level maybe

[timber moon]

What roles can I apply to when I hit a year in august

?

I’m at a associate level

[nova sluice]

Wot

Which companies

[shell burrow]

He’s trolling

[coral gull]

just start applying whenever and see if you get something

don't hold any loyalty to these companies

if you want something different and apply and get something better: adios. go there. If not you; continue life as normal.

[stuck radish]

Is it ok to mail the hiring manager after not getting any response for two weeks after the interview?

[sleek oracle]

Stupid is a very strong word

[zinc salmon]

Yes

[stuck radish]

Cool thank!

[dusty magnet]

I am trying to find more startup roles to apply to, but besides Wellfound, I don't know too many sites that specialize in that. Any ideas ?

[fluid inlet]

workatastartup.com

[dusty magnet]

in y combinator right ? yeah I aldready know that one, didn't yield much results really. Still thanks

[olive verge]

What is the updated interview process for Google? I got an email for 1st round of interviews (1 coding 1 behavioural) for Software Engineer II, early career role.

[sick comet]

What do you mean by updated? It's the same only as previous

[blissful girder]

I got a general rejection email for a role I never applied (job ID is not matching with any of the roles). I interviewed with Amazon 5 days ago. Does that mean I am rejected for the role I interviewed?

This is the mail I got.

Thank you for your application for the position of Software Dev Engineer (ID: 2802711). After careful consideration, we've decided not to progress with your application for this role. While we're unable to provide additional details about this decision, we'd like to keep in touch regarding future job opportunities. Thanks again for your interest in working at Amazon.

[zinc salmon]

maybe and maybe not

ask hr just in case

job id does not usually line up with the role you interviewed with

[knotty snow]

anyone here switch from SWE to Cybersecurity and have any success? Looking for a place to start and learn cybersecurity skills

[runic mural]

Anyone in DoorDash process who accidentally got the vo invite for intern instead of ng?

Portal says SWE-I but email says internship. And recruiter is AWOL

[proven gulch]

Amazon often transfers applications to new jobs ids during the process. So unfortunately its probably a reject for what you applied to

Is the one you applied to/interviewed still show up as under consideration in the portal?

[blissful girder]

Yes, you’re right. It’s a reject.

[unborn glacier]

Is it possible to block an employer on LinkedIn? I’m tired of seeing Lensa

[tropic ravine]

ikr they have spammed my email too and when you click there is no job posting there

[crimson wigeon]

gonna miss this channel

[flat quail]

Any gave interview to goldman?

[fresh glen]

Lmao I forgot

Thanks for the reminder

[proven wagon]

do amazon recruiters schedule a call for extending an offer or just send it an email?

[unborn glacier]

Someone start a petition

[last frigate]

Hows the job market my fellow 2024ers

[buoyant raft]

It's over

I'm ngmi

[crimson wigeon]

just an email

[last haven]

u got apple and nvidia right

[buoyant raft]

Novideo

No fapple

[coral gull]

If I don't find something in 2 months it's going to be time to live in my car

[last haven]

atleast u have a car, i don’t even have that

gotta join the homeless shelter in sf

[coral gull]

yeah that's good at least your homeless in California prob the best place to be homeless

i know some dude who's about to be homeless in Arkansas 😭

he has just enough money to come be homeless in california so he told me he'll probably do that

[last haven]

my city has no homeless people because it’s considered rich and safe, they send all the homeless to a different city closeby

if i had to go homeless id rather be close to tech hub of sf

that’s y i said sf

[toxic plume]

still no good job

[tribal saddle]

2024 ng?

[toxic plume]

yes

you?

[tribal saddle]

25

[frigid ledge]

Anyone done with round 1 interviews (1x45min coding, 1x45min behavioral) for Google Software Engineer II, Early Career?

[brittle garden]

SRE position?

[frigid ledge]

SWE

[gray kraken]

Did the recruiter mention about streamlining the process

[lean hatch]

does anybody else have additional round for google? i have one for new grad swe (l3). is the question random, harder, or based on something the candidate struggled with (the cause of mixed packet)?

[coral gull]

your city ? 😭

buddy we not gonna have cities anymore

[last haven]

Irvine - NB

[coral gull]

Oh no way, i went to UCI !

[last haven]

[coral gull]

it's not a bad place to live in your car

[last haven]

i don’t have a car

i’m cooked

[coral gull]

i never worried about car break ins or feeling unsafe

[coral gull]

get oneeeeee

[last haven]

no money no job, no gf

imma camp 🏕️ in the middle of aldrich park

[coral gull]

I camped at the quad during the encampents

lets start another encampment protest 😎

[last haven]

they will kick me out, im intls

[coral gull]

I can't even get deported bruh

not blaming the intls, while the people I want to work for make 1000x more money than I'll ever even see in my lifetime

[tribal saddle]

arent u uci too

[last haven]

yes cooked

[tribal saddle]

time to go back to jinping/modi

[tribal saddle]

thats where all the abgs be

[last haven]

nah citizens r stealing our jobs

[last haven]

i hate abgs now

like ur parents

[tribal saddle]

why abgs are the best

I wanna go rave with one

[last haven]

[tribal saddle]

get kendrick perkins off my tv man

espn talking like ind up 20 T_T

[harsh moon]

based & solidarity-pilled

[frigid ledge]

Yeah they mentioned its now 2 rounds. But round 1 has 1x45 min programming round and 1x45 min behavioral round

[gray kraken]

So was this the final? Or you are gonna have the loop after this?

[frigid ledge]

There will be another round after that

[gray kraken]

One technical?

Did you hear back tho

[frigid ledge]

I am yet to give Round 1, they just told me the details for Round 1

[gray kraken]

Okayy so it was was GHA->round 1

[frigid ledge]

Yeah

[gray kraken]

They didn’t mention anything about the standard loop if you clear it right

[frigid ledge]

Nope they just told theyll provide further details once I pass Round 1

Did you get it as well?

[gray kraken]

Okay. Looks like they are changing the process

My friend got it. I got the standard loop

So not sure what to expect

[frigid ledge]

Oh I see, did you give any technical interview so far?

[gray kraken]

I had gha -> 1 tech and now final scheduled

When is your round 1

[frigid ledge]

I am thinking to give dates between 6/23 and 7/4. Is it fine? or should I give earlier?

[gray kraken]

I think its fine

Even i took a month to prep

Let me know if you find out what the next rounds look like

Dm?

[frigid ledge]

Sure

[tacit zephyr]

Asking on behalf of a friend: How much time does zon take for background check to complete for SDE1s?

[crimson wigeon]

definitely depends on if you have concerning things in your background

if you're like a clean slate + us citizen (like me) it finished the next day

[void pewter]

Has anyone interviewed for Microsoft recently?
What rounds are there?

[buoyant raft]

Another day another microsoft reject

[void pewter]

Can anyone please tell what rounds are there for Microsoft SDE 1?
Like do they have an LLD or System Design round?

[tacit zephyr]

!process zon hires, what was your start date in the recent times? (Last 2-3 weeks)

[unborn glacier]

Has anyone interviewed for Apple IS&T Early Careers?

[tribal saddle]

yes

[unborn glacier]

Can I dm

[tribal saddle]

I failed after first screen so I wont be very helpful and this was a year ago

did u get it just now?

[unborn glacier]

I have the first screen scheduled

[lunar sierra]

has anyone interviewed for amazon sde (ios/android/mobile)?

[velvet badge]

If I am not getting interviews does that mean my resume is bad? I feel like I am applying but not hearing anything back

how are you guys getting interviews?

yea i thought so

[tropic lily]

is it only SDE coding or also includes system design

[native moon]

how many apps have yous ent out

[velvet badge]

In the last 3 months close to 100

I already have a software adjacent job tho, looking to switch

[thorn flume]

anyone recently interview for Goldman sachs associate role? Got invited for a 2 hour virtual panel interview and was wondering what I should expect

[coral gull]

I got about 500 applications now and no interview

https://discord.com/channels/698366411864670250/1381548140888592384

My resume is decent I think, I've switched it up a bunch and still nothing

so I think mainly just the market is shit ?

I applied for state jobs in a couple states and got this back We are pleased to inform you that you qualified for the recruitment

so I'm qualifying for recruitment for a lot of the talent pools in government jobs so I assume I'm getting past some automatic screenings

but I hear nothing after that

[nocturne apex]

In my (limited) experience, government jobs just take a looooooong time to hire. I applied to a defense company back in March 2023 and didn't hear back until August 2023 lol

But the interview process was pretty easy. They asked me a Leetcode easy problem LOL

Then again, 2023 might as well be a completely different era because it sounds like companies are lot tougher to get into now 😭

[coral gull]

i'd rather be homeles than work for a "defense" comapany😭

but that's not considered a government job is it ? that's a contractor ?

these NDAs crazy either you not telling me something or they not telling you something 😭

My point is another company and not the government is in charge of the hiring process

[nocturne apex]

Yeah another company is in charge. I doubt you'd want to work directly for the government since DOGE can lay you off for no reason lol

[coral gull]

Any company can lay you off for no reason, it's "at-will" employment

walmart laid me off for no reason

that was considered a safe company by most users in this discord

[nocturne apex]

I think defense companies are safer. As long as the government doesn't run out of money

Like when is the last time the military budget has been cut?

[coral gull]

I'm well aware. The military is the reason why I'm in this shitty country to begin with 😭

[velvet badge]

Yea I’m at a defense company too. It’s not ideal so that’s kinda why I’m looking for other stuff

It’s not all that bad though, the work life balance is pretty good

[buoyant raft]

yeah I mean coloquially they are referred to as defense contractors

I assume you're an employee of your defense contractor

True! For example, Palantir makes surveillance systems! No Weapons!

[sleek oracle]

Why?

[zinc salmon]

Moral compass

Some people don’t want to support working for military / indirectly killing children/war persons

[signal goblet]

@barren dust can u come dm i have some questions related to tripadvisor

[coral gull]

are you serious right now ?

please tell me you were being sarcastic

[zinc salmon]

It’s obv sarcasm

Using a spread of exclamation marks randomly in a sentence

[tribal saddle]

Is that why Palantir doesn't hire intl

[native moon]

i agree with this sentiment but there's a distinction to be made

weapons of destruction are for destruction and war

cars aren't

so you could say that people dying in car crashes is a "byproduct" of the industry

while people dying from missiles is the product of defense

[tribal saddle]

I will work for a defense company cuz being jobless for 6 months with a lot of debt and no source of income is a life I Dont want but they dont want intl

[coral gull]

Defense companies profit from wars and killing innocent people

[zinc salmon]

See Oppenheimer and his moral dilemma (I think he has one, I did not watch)

[native moon]

yea honestly if i was working on smthing like that then see on the news "1000 families and children killed by attacks using x tech" i would crash out and lose my mind

maybe there are more layers between the creator though

[dusk umbra]

How do I make my resume stand out to get atleast an interview lol

Wait why grads r still unemployed lol

But 2024 grads r still unemployed

[unborn glacier]

So we’re supposed to just stop looking for jobs? 😭

[dusk umbra]

Nah 2023 grads got jobs

Economic in 2024 was good till trump took power

[buoyant raft]

Bc some 2023 grads had RO from interning back in 2022

[dusk umbra]

Everyone that graduated may 2023 got a job

Anyone after that r struggling other then a few

[dusk umbra]

Everything in USA is for profit

Why would that we have a dumbass for that

[zinc salmon]

we;ve been in constant state of war since ww2

just intel war though xd

[dusk umbra]

Will there be ever a month just one month of peace

[nocturne apex]

nope 😭

[dusk umbra]

It’s just I don’t understand why America needs to go and poke its nose into everything

[nocturne apex]

because there are US citizens in other countries, and most companies in the USA trade with other countries. Since the US happens to have the biggest military, it makes sense for them to use it to try to maintain stability. If the US stepped back and stopped using its military in other countries, what do you think would happen?

Russia or China would probably fill in the gap

I guess it's a choice between the least evil country running things 😭

[dusk umbra]

This world used to be so peaceful before technology

[nocturne apex]

ummm...define technology lol

pretty sure we had wars even before bows and spears were invented

[dusk umbra]

Advancement in military guns cars

Telecommunications

[nocturne apex]

We had big wars before all that 😭

[dusk umbra]

Ya but not to this extent

Before war was

Men vs men

Now they r holding children and women and hostages to use an negotiation

[nocturne apex]

nah, it's always been pretty bad 😭

honestly, outside the world wars, modern times are relatively peaceful compared to the middle ages and before

we just hear about stuff more easily because every country has access to phones and the internet

[dusk umbra]

I want to go back to the days were u fight for fun

[buoyant raft]

yis us navy make global trade safe

[coral gull]

to protect the US ?

you know nothing about politics

they work together

[coral gull]

The US refused to evacatue americans in lebanon during the war

it's not about being american

it's about your skin color and your ethnicity/other citizenship

go fight

google "lobbying"

[forest totem]

Anyone know where I can find roommates/subleases (particularly in the DMV area)? thanks!

[zinc salmon]

You can sleep in my bed if you want 😏

[nova sluice]

bruh we gotta delete this channel

[tribal saddle]

all my friends live in NoVA

[forest totem]

Any of them need housing 👀

[tribal saddle]

na they live with their parents

[last haven]

i read partners

[nova sluice]

Where in dmv?

Try fb groups

[forest totem]

NoVa (Herndon)

[forest totem]

Wdym? (I’ve never used Facebook 💀)

[frosty plinth]

Companies literally do this lol

So many wars for the sake of company profits

[obsidian pasture]

yea this is true

but more famously not by defense companies themselves

ie xyz company wants to abuse resources in xyz location

and those companies arent the defense companies

[nova sluice]

There are Facebook groups to find roommates near a location

typically college and working professionals, but also complete randoms

[stuck radish]

People who graduated with a masters in US and went back or planning to go back to India. I wanted to know how is the job market for us. I know that Indian interview process is comparatively harder than in the US but with every interview of mine resulting to one of the reasons I have no control over is messing my head. Most of my screening calls end with we don’t do sponsorship. So any advice or help is appreciate!

[scarlet monolith]

from what I hear from my Indian friends they will stay here as long as possible to try and make it before going back

or they are going for phd but taking only 1 class etc to extend visa as long as possible

or just doing phd lol

how is the india market like?

i dont have a comparable

[stuck radish]

That’s what I wanted to know

[scarlet monolith]

i think you could also consider financial status, can u afford to try in the us or if u go back now what is your plan you can try applying in india too while ur here

[stuck radish]

Do you have any info of the current job market in India for US masters students with 1 year of experience?

[scarlet monolith]

Other country can be better culturally but here the financial opportunities exceed 99% of jobs in my home country

[last haven]

must be way better than here! all companies, from small start ups to big techs, from witch to faang, everyone is there and no problem of sponsorship

small high growth startups will definitely value ur experience and u might get big tech too, but that’s kinda hard in this market

witch won’t hire because they pay in pennies

[stuck radish]

Completely agree

[stuck radish]

Yeah I don’t know what to respond if I get asked the question like ‘you are overqualified’ that’s one thing bugging me.

Not in the sense of experience but because of masters if they ask that.

[last haven]

do u have loans ?

[stuck radish]

At this point I have like a whole list of all the situations that I have thought of. My brain is burnt out. I just want to give some direction to my career

[last haven]

bruh then there’s no reason to stay back and struggle imo, people usually stay back to pay off debts

[stuck radish]

Yeah, I know in every other job market there is some downside but I’m thinking at least I can explore other avenue while I keep actively searching for the job there.

[last haven]

yes 🙌

[stuck radish]

This convo really eased my mind. Appreciate it

[buoyant raft]

I thought india had a problem with having enough jobs too

[last haven]

they do

but for an intls its better over there

[tribal saddle]

this channel is still alive for dec 2024 ngmis like me

[tame harness]

HI channel, Shall I choose Google SWE or Amazon applied scientist? Both entry level for master 1 yoe. Amazon pays more but I am worried that the roof is lower

[obsidian pasture]

hard to grind out of L5 for amazon (L4 is entry for amazon) so i think google's growth is better as well

assuming you want to stay google for the long term

[nocturne apex]

What are L1, L2, and L3 for at Amazon?

Is L1 like a janitor or something?

[zinc salmon]

they can't count to 3

so they started at 4

[fresh light]

tech/warehouse worker roles

i think the lowest a technician goes is L2

[crimson wigeon]

Amazon applied scientist should be L5 starting (L4 exist but they're rare)

but idk how hard L5 -> L6 is for applied scientists

[bitter monolith]

applied scientists at zon are heavily relied on if you become a silo tbf

job security is good

but that comes with a lot of work

[ripe rivet]

thank you jeff bezos

[raven onyx]

Hi everyone! I have my hiring manager screening round with Splunk coming up soon for Senior Software Engineer. Has anyone here gone through it and can share their experience?

[dusk umbra]

You r a masters grad?

[raven onyx]

Yes

[unborn glacier]

Does amazon ghost after the oa or would you send a rejection email?

[zinc salmon]

Send rejection

*may take multiple months

[buoyant raft]

may also take multiple months to get interview invite

[normal quarry]

I think they do stuff in waves. It’s how close are you to the wave. Like I did it near end of Feb and there was a big wave in March so it was pretty quick.

[desert hare]

!process Google team matching form submitted (06/23)

[frigid ledge]

Did anyone give Round 1 (45min technical and 45min coding) interview for Google Software Engineer II early career?

[frigid dragon]

When did you complete your vo and how long did they hiring committee take to get back with results?

[desert hare]

6/13, I asked for an expedite on HC 6/17, heard back on 6/20

[frigid dragon]

Did you have another offer and had to make a decision?

[tacit zephyr]

Anyone had Karat coding round with paypal Software Engineer role? Need some inputs. Thanks in advance! Please DM

[vocal musk]

@obsidian shuttle

Wake yo ass up

[forest totem]

is there a place to ask for offer debates?

[tribal saddle]

#1344137760604426333

[jolly siren]

Is anyone in the Lyft interview loop? Please dm me.

[fresh glen]

Oh i forgot