#quants-n-traders

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dire finch
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it be what it be

tranquil wagon
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Glad ur enjoying it

dire finch
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yessir

tranquil wagon
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You gonna stay in the space?

dire finch
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eh no opinion rn

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high base but no upside

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unless company gets lucky

tranquil wagon
dire finch
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like being tied to product success is kind of annoying

tranquil wagon
dire finch
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no like the product hasnt been proven yet

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so its diceroll vs pushing good -> better

peak egret
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Got told on the spot for my recruiter screen that I’ll be moving to next round and to send availability for onsite next week then get ghosted 💀

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It’s so joever ngl why are recruiters like this 😭

vagrant ibex
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270k tc I think

wicked lotus
vagrant ibex
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I think recurring (maybe little less) TC is around 300

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Is what I have heard

meager hull
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@dire finch Seeing your username made my day better

analog patrol
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What does citadel base/bonus/signing split look like?

dire finch
dire finch
midnight flare
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how much additional maths do you guys think is expected to be known for a pure cs degree to be a qt or a qd

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y1 undergrad so trying to plan out free time

coarse sand
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Does sig blacklist if you turn down their interview due to already signing another offer

opal bramble
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but if your going for qd you really need to focus on programming

wicked lotus
dire finch
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whichever one has harder technical

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active trading strategies sounds kind of baller

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but ik a lot of firms have pricing teams so lateraling is probably the same for both

harsh cargo
wicked lotus
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ya i heard swe got 270k but someone told me 350k so i wasnst sure if swe first year is 350k

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would quant dev or quant start be the same?

tranquil wagon
opal bramble
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my answer aint wrong gng

tranquil wagon
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You should probably preface any answer you give with the fact that you’re just answering based off of vibes bc you haven’t been exposed to actual work that a qd or qt does

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It’s cool that u have an interest in this stuff but for rn ur probably better off taking advice than giving advice on the field

deep python
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has anyone done optiver qt r2? are the games harder than r1?

neon mirage
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Depends when you notify

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If it’s a day before then yeah but if you give them time in advance idts. Life happens i doubt a recruiter will rlly think much of it

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Hmm hard to say tbh. If you feel like they fw and it won’t hurt your chances then you’re prob fine

opal bramble
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i know tons of people in industry they all say the same thing

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the is exactly what my quant friend said:

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I think the math that you'll really want is the following:
• Multivariable Calculus
• Linear Algebra
• Probability / Statistics
• Differential equations (some PDEs pop up from time to time
• Convex Optimization
• Real Analysis
• Some game theory depending on your paradigm of trade
All of that should back an extremely intricate knowledge and skill set of machine learning”

shut scroll
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Mainly the basic stuff though

shut scroll
midnight flare
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good to hear, tyvm!

stark hemlock
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If I have a masters at same rando state school and currently working at some rando bank is there a way to break into quant?

opal bramble
opal bramble
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i don’t have enough time to entertain this all that matters is that I (ME) know that’s not true

proven salmon
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lmao

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real anal as well💀
def eq

strange trench
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wait LOL i feel like it highly depends on how harsh your interviewers are and what you have on ur resume

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i personally have never seen diff eq being asked but my citsec superday interviewer asked me to define the riemann and lebesgue integral in an interview before (not related to any problem, lowkey i think he was just being a dick)

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no i think it wasn't too out of left field, we were walking thru my resume and i mentioned math research

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so maybe he was doing it to verify i wasn't completely bs'ing

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he also followed up with some ML questions like how a GAN worked under the hood etc because i had put my experiences working with them in the past

strange trench
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yeah i dont think it was completely unreasonable, altho i would say i def did not expect to see that coming in a quant interview and caught me off guard LOL

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also idk about lebesgue integral being intro analysis LOL i didnt learn about it until i took a measure theory class

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yeah LOL its also the last chapter of baby rudin iirc but we didn't make it that far when i took it

strange trench
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Yeah I was just surprised lol

stiff sun
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anyone know how to prep for voloridge qd interview

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just normal swe stuff?

low vault
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its like horizontal instead of vertical

tranquil wagon
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Bro that’s what I’m saying

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These mfs know too much

ornate current
stiff sun
chrome zinc
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has anyone interviewed at gqs for software

hardy mulch
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is there anyone who gave akuna vidcruiter assessment? what do they ask and how to prepare for it?

cerulean notch
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pls define the lebesgue integral

cerulean notch
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For finite sum of constant functions, are you implying that the domain of the constant functions might not be the same as the domain of the simply functions, but are disjoint from the other constant function domains and union to the simple function domain?

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it is! upper lower integral very familiar lmao

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and sigma algebra kinda feels similar to a topology axiom-wise

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makes sense, much clearer than how I phrased it lol

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but equivalent

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I've heard that the vitali set is non measurable but from the definitions provided it seems like it's easy to define a measure on the vitali set (any set rly)

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do ppl just call it unmeasurable bc it can't be in any sigma algebra defined on the reals?

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but surely P(R) is a valid sigma algebra

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oh

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makes sense thanks 👍

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that kinda jogged my memory slightly

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lebesgue measure is just slightly nicer version of jordan measure but like actually useful

snow skiff
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what are reasonable projects to build that could stand out for quant dev / qt?

pearl quest
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<@&1407764299333505034>

mossy rune
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whats the roundabout away

tranquil wagon
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Very worth, that would be such a cool job

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Depends on ur other offers

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Seems like there’s a lot of upside though just looking at the trend of the trading volume on there

low vault
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tbh valid concern to not want to join a startup for visa reasons

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which would u pick if visa wasnt issue?

tranquil wagon
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You should totally do it imo

low vault
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er

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are you sure that you can legally do that?

tranquil wagon
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Assuming it doesn’t work out you’ll be able to find another job

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Kalshi trading would be so so cool and you’d grow a ton since it’s an emerging market and a new company

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For kalshi trading ur goal is still vol isn’t it

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Since they market make

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When you say vol do u mean volatility or volume

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Oh

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No I think they would care about pnl

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It’s a different company isn’t it

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Like a subsidiary

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So they’d have their own revenue

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Which would be trading revenue not fees

hardy mulch
strange trench
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U have like 2 min per problem iirc

signal storm
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friend works there, whats the read on these guys

tranquil wagon
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Wtf lol

rose holly
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hey

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i am new here and to CS and quant but very intrested and good knowledge of econmics with a brain apt for algo where and how can i begin

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i am in

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2nd year

verbal pulsar
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were u atleast t10 cs tho?

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this hasn't worked for me and im like t25 cs prob, but i have really good prev

tranquil wagon
verbal pulsar
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yea i forgot to account for that

tranquil wagon
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Thanks homie

midnight flare
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is tX only us based?

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or do yall use qs rankings/THE or whatever

fast jacinth
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Has anyone done voloridge technical phone screen ? What to expect?

verbal pulsar
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nah, ai lab on res

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damn ur crazy

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i've gotten ints at all omms but not a single recruiter responded to my emails

bright mountain
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Anyone got tqd link

proven salmon
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I don’t even remember applying to ts

proven salmon
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No recruiter

mossy rune
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no i didnt get it

dire finch
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orz pacific daylight trading

shell ginkgo
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Hello,
I am a blockchain and AI developer. I have solid tech and rich experience in these fields.
anyone who want to create their own project, such as a game, bot, or website?

peak egret
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I’ve had this happen to me like 3 times atp it’s infuriating 😭

lime zealot
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an important part of tqd was lost 🥀

livid steeple
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yo anyone know if theres a quant discord? got a DE shaw swe interview

livid steeple
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anyone know if shaw cares about gpa? probably gonna just email my recruiter and tell them my gpa so i dont waste my time prepping for ts lmao

proven salmon
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us ngmis dont have gpa on res

livid steeple
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not a ng, have 2 YOE and got directly reached out to by a shaw recruiter

mellow aurora
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Lol

latent raven
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Got final round for WF 🙏

halcyon rover
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any advice for js qt r1

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not looking for leaks

jovial abyss
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can u pls send the link

midnight flare
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:3

turbid mural
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for interns?

fiery grove
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Is UChicago a target for quant?

shut scroll
fiery grove
shut scroll
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UIUC a bit better ig? Marginal difference

fiery grove
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So not worth transferring

shut scroll
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If you’re doing it for the sole purpose of being more appealing for quant, no not worth

fiery grove
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Alrighty

austere rampart
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Msft ai

empty jewel
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jane street imo

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or citadel securities

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doing well in quant internships there will get u quant screens

empty jewel
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those subjects are quite rigorous at chicago i heard

empty jewel
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i don’t know about 2yoe but intern/ng I know they do for sure

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de shaw had an unbearable application

rotund glacier
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Uchicago is great

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And easier to stand out there than UIUC

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IMO

jovial abyss
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bro i just got grilled by a quant interviewer its so over

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bro kept saying NO ur algo doesn't work

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😭😭😭

tranquil wagon
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Haha mb homie I’m jk

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Aren’t I mocking u

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Or did I forget who I’m interviewing

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Oh ye

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I think I said I’ll do it tmrw tho bc I have an exam tmrw that I haven’t studied for yet haha

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Oh wait

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Today is Wednesday

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Wtf

jovial abyss
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it was greedy + doesn't pass edge case

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😭😭😭

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he didn't like my dfs

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im so sad

pulsar scarab
robust parrot
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Is this happening here 👀

rose holly
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Okay I need a person who's already an experienced Quant or have more information on it to explain what is needed to actually get into this competitive field

dire finch
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be smart

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if you think you're smart you're washed

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if you think you're washed you can get in

hexed obsidian
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Anyone have info on js swe r1?

hallow sail
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is it too late to apply/get interviews at this point?

naive bison
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wont hurt to apply but recruiting is mostly done

ruby ore
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connect 4

latent raven
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Would you guys recommend WF quant over BofA quant? I have final round for both, but BofA returns the offer faster, so I want to know which one I should take if I get them

tacit lily
rose holly
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You guys I'm still learning terminology here I need y'all to speak English for 5 seconds

north meadow
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anyone know if the bridgewater IA final is just another debate with an IA

stray crane
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for swe do you only get asked lc?

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or do they ask os and math questions too?

wicked reef
knotty kelp
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Anyone did Optiver OA before?

dire finch
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yep

sharp stone
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whats imc qt ro rate?

hallow sail
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Is the next general hiring cycle around March? Does it matter if you applied now/in the Fall already?

gentle robin
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how is being a trader at peak6

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compared to swe @ fangg

maiden scaffold
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Does anyone know if CTC is at headcount for QT interns

wind notch
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it's pretty late so prob

last rune
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anyone know how hard 2 sigma swe intern screen is if I got oa

limpid pulsar
jovial abyss
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I did my int a few days ago and didn't hear back ig im rejected

untold prawn
gaunt hamlet
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Is bridgewater still accepting new apps for their investment associate/engineer internship? Or is it alr over

sharp stone
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does imc call to rej

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🙏 🙏 🙏

gentle robin
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?

jovial abyss
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has anyone heard back from bridgewater 2nd round technical interview

sour valve
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anybody did r2 algo dev hrt? or super day citadel swe?
can trade info!!

sharp stone
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what

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whats wrong with it

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she said its p chill for intern i learn about shit first few weeks then shadow

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also interviewers didnt seem like they hated it

stark fulcrum
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anyone know if there's a citadel discord?

tranquil wagon
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I’m never out of the woods

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I’m a permanent woods dweller

strange trench
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is it like that for most quant firms? i heard citsec fires like the bottom 20% of traders every other year or smth

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yeah but getting unlucky one year and getting fucked because of variance seems like a bad way to go

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play more

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and study theory

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yeah fair enough but imagine getting let go y1 because u got unlucky XD

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wait y1 isnt lasting tho

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arent u in training for like 6-9 months

mossy rune
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r u quant

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is this a yes

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dev?

strange trench
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oh thats fair

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the basic rules of poker? i think those are pretty fast to pick up

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im gonna be completely honest i cannot tell if ur trolling or not

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oh i guess wikihow works but yeah just learn the basic rules, go get some friends to play micro stakes like .1/.2 or smth to build beginner intuition and then read up on pot odds/more complex theory ig

rare basin
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dont listen to him, play just with the normal rules first then get into theory

fiery tangle
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they ask questions, you don't answer them well enough, you get cut

kindred mortar
clear tree
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this isnt legit right

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the linkedin goes to a legit profile it seems like

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but i dont know if the email is from who the linkedin is

clear tree
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is it in person onsite?

polar ocean
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any point learning poker n shit for imc if all im targeting is swe?

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/qd

umbral spade
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is ts actually legit

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I faded it

cerulean notch
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def not legit 💀 pls don't get scammed

wind notch
clear tree
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legit

pliant shell
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salary is much lower than the average. Total comp is like 130-50 bands. I got recommended by a close friend of mine but I didnt take it seriously

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it is very good resume boost tho

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it has a live in person interview

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its mostly a design queston\

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yeah

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c++

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I only do c++

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oh I see

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tbh python is not that difficult to learn if youseen a more difficult programming language

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the usual difficult is the math questions

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yeah

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no for c++ its for SWE

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its mostly design

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but world quant is a trader specific firm

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that uses software provided by millenium

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its basically the firm that uses stat arb

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under millenium

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11 hour

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1

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1 hour

tall gorge
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Did anyone interviewed for swe intern position at scalp trade?

tall gorge
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Yea

lone cargo
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can someone send me tqd link pls?

wicked lotus
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Same can I also get tqd link pls?

limpid pulsar
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Dm me for tqd links

wicked lotus
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anyone done Akuna trading sneak peek week vidcruiter?

ornate urchin
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anyone done hrt Python process?

tranquil wagon
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you might pass a couple screens, you just have to make sure to capitalize on them because you wont pass a lot

untold prawn
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depends on school

frozen linden
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So not that well known

untold prawn
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yeah i doubt it ngl

frozen linden
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Hmm okay

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quant weigh school a lot?

untold prawn
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generally yes

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if ur school is bad ur exp needs to be much stronger

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honestly prolly not worth ur time to prep qd/qswe stuff that doesn't also help w/ faang+ intvs

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unless u are alr rlly good at lc

ruby ore
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are you doing dev or trader

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as in swe right

frozen linden
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Yeah

ruby ore
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ye

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i think only citadel asks leetcode

untold prawn
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a lot of oa's have lc but intv q's are generally more impl

ruby ore
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yes

frozen linden
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Hmm okay ic

untold prawn
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either way i wouldn't worry ab impl q's just focus on lc for now

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u can try for quant junior year

frozen linden
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Gotcha yeah I js wanna get cracked at lc at least

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Thanks Heisenberg and cattwrmelon 🙏

north hare
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what gpa is needed for js quant

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would a 3.7 be good enough?

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at a t5 cs school

wraith eagle
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have u won notable trading competitions?

north hare
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no but i did very good on putnam

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whats like the min gpa needed for js/hrt/citadel? 3.9?

wraith eagle
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if u got a 3.7

north hare
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dont they like ask for transcripts later

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i feel like u'll get cooked if u jus completely lie abt gpa

wraith eagle
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not the gpa

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if u got a 3.7 u can just say it dropped and u forgot to update it on resume if they ask

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that's more doable than a 2.5 lying abt a 3.9

mossy rune
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tradings not ddoable unless u go to t20 at least unless ur like usamo or smt

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odds r very low

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but swe should be doable

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ik ppl who got inot optiver form no name state schools no prevs

median gust
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Upcoming first round with Citadel for SWE intern anyone have advice for how to prep?

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Yeah that was like the first thing I did, looking for next steps now

median gust
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@woven wedge What kind of behavioural do they ask?

median gust
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Interview came with a coderpad tho so I expect a coding question atleast

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Just first round so it’s tech

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Yeah

dire finch
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dont int

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it's that shrimple

lyric orchid
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Actually nah kinda hard to have a 3.7 GPA in CS at UIUC since CS GPAs are mad inflated

supple sun
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Loo represent

proven salmon
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larpers

jaunty torrent
deft dagger
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any info on the OA for jane street IN FOCUS swe?

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dm me pls lol

cold heart
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Why am I banned from Tqd 🥀🥀

proven salmon
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Dog has anyone done pdt proc before

night cove
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Linking tqd 🥀

lilac garden
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Anyone know how trexquant is as a company for swe / also what is typical comp

tranquil wagon
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No the holy land of tqd has been desecrated by swecels 😔

chrome zinc
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has anyone done the de shaw codility

dreamy radish
sharp stone
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is millenium any good

dreamy radish
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HR was rude and cut me off several times

chrome yarrow
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Anyone able to review a resume? Have been struggling to get any 1 round interviews. Not sure why, very open to advice

lilac garden
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Freudian

safe yew
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is hrt oa auto lol

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got emailed by a recruiter

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also i applied like a while ago

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funny thing is they rejected me also a while ago

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but now i got oa lol

hexed obsidian
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whats process for jane street qt look like?

ripe gyro
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anyone have information for HRT python NG onsite

ripe gyro
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what do those rounds usually consist of? hard to tell in the email

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i see thanks!

iron torrent
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💀

maiden maple
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anyone know anything about Soros Fund Management Quant interviews?

uncut nexus
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Does anybody know Sig ng salery? Recurring and fy comp?

vagrant ibex
uncut nexus
vernal talon
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anyone do hrt onsite for c++ swe?

vagrant ibex
shrewd quest
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is SIG OA auto for QR?

icy portal
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The blind leading the blind

north hare
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has hrt soph already released all interviews?

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also r hrt/js the only two firms that normally take sophomores

mental nest
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thoughts on jump vs. citsec vs. xantium (swe/qd)

tranquil wagon
mental nest
tranquil wagon
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Jump has very good c++ and very fast execution so as a swe its a cool place to be

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Also they pay very well

mental nest
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to me seems like good wlb + good C++ + benefits/remote work and stuff at xantium while also getting paid well

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vs jump comes across a bit more grind-y

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but also prob more upside there

tranquil wagon
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Xantium doesn’t pay as much but sure maybe the wlb is better, I’ve heard jump wlb is made out to be worse than it is though

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I have a good friend who works there and he does 40-45 hrs a week

mental nest
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at jump?

tranquil wagon
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Yes

mental nest
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is he core dev or on a trading team

tranquil wagon
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Core dev

mental nest
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ah

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i interviewed jump swe on trading team and it seems like a bit worse wlb than core dev

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but also more upside since bonus is directly tied to that team's pnl

tranquil wagon
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It sounds like you are looking for people to tell u to take Xantium, if you want to do that then just go for it

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None of the offers are bad

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I would just personally take jump

tame idol
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All the xantium interns i knew last summer generally worked 8:30-7:30

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Not bad but probably not what you had in mind for good wlb

tranquil wagon
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If u want a RO and u aren’t grinding for it idk what ur doing

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I guess I can’t give anything but anecdotal evidence, but all the people I know as interns worked more than the ft people on their team

dire finch
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if ur not pouring ur blood and tears into ur favorite quant company what are u doing really

tranquil wagon
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Lmao fr fr

mental nest
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thats not great wlb lol

tranquil wagon
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Haha maybe it’s that

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8 hours in ocaml would feel like 14 in c++

fiery tangle
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it will

dire finch
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matters more that you're on the right team

dire finch
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ok do it then ???

wicked lotus
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Would there be comp diff for swe too based on front/middle/back office?

gaunt hamlet
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Are quant procs finished?

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I’m planning to apply to drw

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and a couple others for quant research internships

hardy marsh
tranquil wagon
hardy marsh
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like no crazy red flags?

tranquil wagon
paper hornetBOT
paper hornetBOT
azure zenith
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once you have some decent firm name on your cv for an internship then NG apps CV stage are way more approachable

azure zenith
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when I’ve had interns on my team they have definitely worked longer hours than the team and I’ve literally told them they should go home

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when I was an intern I worked up to when my team left generally

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I think interns are very susceptible to the “I must appear to be working as hard as possible at all times for as long as possible” mindset

tranquil wagon
azure zenith
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IMO it’s what you make of it that matters, doing something impressive is in your control regardless of the project premise

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but even then, I don’t think I’ve ever had to talk about my intern project for more than 10-15 mins in an interview process. Usually the weight is almost all on your technical skills in the interview, not anything you say you’ve done before

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only exception was radix, which did have a whole interview about it but said it could be on any project (so doesn’t have to be your internship one if you really think it’s bad)

tranquil wagon
tranquil wagon
azure zenith
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that is fair but I think more of an outlier (at a good firm) then a strict “make sure you’re not in a boring team” rule

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I definitely agree in seeing some people get dealt shitty cards though

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but that has happened even in great teams

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if you interview well on the technical side I don’t think anyone will care as much that your previous project wasn’t that interesting

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of course, this is an opinion on anecdotal evidence though so obviously I can’t say it’s representative for the whole industry.

tranquil wagon
strange trench
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LOL

hardy marsh
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whats the sentiment on vatic labs

hybrid cove
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What evaluation

twilit kraken
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what firms dont care abt gpa

tranquil wagon
strange trench
strange trench
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not sure but prob not for all events, i got 3rd place at an event last year and they still resume rejected me LOL

grizzled valley
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when will you interview me

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for wife position that is

dire finch
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@lunar thicket is fish company hiring technologists

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🫶

lunar thicket
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ai team might have something but its all corporate erp stuff

dire finch
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erp??

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my favorite

weak rock
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im trying to lock in and land top quant swe internship next yr. Ideally like Jump, JS, HRT. What should i focus on?

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just leetcode? i can do like 50-60% of lc meds in 25-30 mins rn ...

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I’m taking OS, High Performance Computing, and Modern Storage Systems (all cpp courses) next sem

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i failed citadel technical this year unfortunately but will have 2x faang+ by the time i apply for summer 27

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my plan rn is:

  • take next sem courses
  • read up on more cpp outside of class and maybe do some projects in cpp
  • try to solve another 200-300 lc problems by may (currently have ~150 solved). maybe after that, experiemnt with some codeforces.
  • do more impl heavy questions / just write more code in general (prob in python/cpp for this) to prep for JS.
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is this even a good idea? my like only motivation is that quant pays more $$$

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i guess if im gonna code for my job anyways then i might as well make more money doing it, right?

lime zealot
weak rock
weak rock
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if the roles were reversed and tech paid 500k and quant was 200k then i prob wouldnt do any of this ngl

dire finch
#

js or dishonor

iron torrent
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U think its worth or overkill? Atl for mine it seems emphasized on hardware since its in ece

weak rock
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im not sure

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just as clueless as u

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it sounds cool for me

sharp merlin
#

Anyone familiar with select equity group?

haughty kestrel
#

!problems susquahana international group

untold prawn
#

!problems getco llc

weak rock
#

uh sure but im swe

solemn patio
#

I generally disagree ^. If youre willing to put in the work, there is no harm in gunning for quant. If you try it and dont like it than its easy to pivot to big tech. If you dont get it nbd, b/c you probably got a big tech offer w/ all that prep

mental nest
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xantium is low-level c++ execution dev vs. jump is c++ on a trading team specializing in us equities. think jump's us equities stuff is pretty new, don't think it's that profitable yet but upside could be massive. idk if you've heard anythin ab that jump team

dire finch
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who is this mogger

azure zenith
mental nest
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jump offer is slightly better yeah i think i might lean there

azure zenith
mental nest
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any reason why you're immediately leanin jump?

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like what have you heard etc

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i got a friend there who likes it but says it can be a little grindy at times

cerulean notch
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could I cop this too?

frozen linden
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Can I get this 🙏

dire bough
#

is green book enough to pass interviews

strange trench
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QT yeah

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QR no

grizzled sapphire
#

Is it? I heard it's no longer enough for qt either

idle warren
#

Has anyone here ever interviewed for quant fpga?

peak egret
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did u just get OA?

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idk i checked levels and its kinda mid 😭

sick narwhal
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hey man

weary path
#

whats point72 superday like for swe

frozen linden
#

what about QD?

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what should ppl aiming for QD be doing 🤔

ashen zephyr
#

HI EVERYONE im VED im newe to quants and finance world i have a cse background what would you guys suggest to start with i like challenges and soling problems

green crane
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Anyone done HRT R2 for C++ dev?

hasty bone
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dm

grizzled sapphire
#

What is the Optiver kickstarter trading event process is like? Do they int you with brain teasers/prob or lc?

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They said that they will send me an oa and if I get through it, it will be an hour technical

surreal patio
#

Optiver Future Focus program opens soon. If you are currently a sophomore DM me a resume and role (quant or tech) and I'll refer cracked people

frozen linden
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Bro what 😭

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So this is the only shot for this cycle

cerulean notch
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if you screw up you apply again in august, if you do good then you don't have to do it again!

frozen linden
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They gonna see me apply with like 3 diff grad dates over the next few years 💀

cursive stratus
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how u know

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wait is jump still pod

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or r they transitioning to collab

normal sapphire
#

Does anyone here know about capula RO rate?

mental nest
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ended up takin jump, thx for the insight

wind notch
#

just curious, what's tc at jump?

tranquil wagon
#

This for intern or ft?

wind notch
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for ft swe

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last I heard it was < 500k

old axle
#

i’m a quant

cursive stratus
#

how can i be as good as coding jesus

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chat

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i already have the lifetime sub

valid musk
#

does anyone know if citadel does off-season internships? in spring or fall

cursive stratus
#

yes

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they do

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ur not getting it

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ur ngmi

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sorry

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u have to get the offer for sumemr and beg them to push to fall

untold prawn
#

i cant believe how much he makes off ts

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preying on ngmis is too lucrative ig

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he said like 60k/mo

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way more than he ever made as a dev lol

stark ruin
cursive stratus
mental nest
#

but it will prob be a grind lol

wind notch
#

holy

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what company are u jumping from?

mental nest
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another smaller quant firm

tranquil wagon
#

oh very nice

dark palm
#

Is that swe ?

mental nest
dark palm
mellow aurora
#

@lunar thicket reply to me you headass mf I need help

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You were not on a date you made the girl up to try and look cooler I did the same thing in hs

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You can't do that and be broke at the same time get ur money up

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Give to me

hybrid cove
#

Yo-ho

dire finch
#

Correct

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i kinda just buy shit and wave a card at it

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these days

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its tuff

cursive stratus
#

just dont tell them and do the interview bruh

hot mica
#

Baller! The next level to this would be having a well stocked office pantry where you spend your midday munching on a wide variety of snacks. Few know this.
@pseudo dragon

dire finch
#

mmm rectangle

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both it's both

#

i subsist purely on freebies these days

weary path
#

bp good for trading?

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can i exit into quant/sytemtaic trading?

#

how abt intern

quiet mirage
#

What is bp

#

Black pill?

wind notch
#

British petroleum?

lyric orchid
#

Can you take the different parts of optiver oa separately

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Like numberlogic one day and then zapn like 4 days later

hollow oriole
#

Is there like a neetcode 150 type thing but for algo dev?

cerulean notch
hollow oriole
#

Yeah I have their sophomore internship interview and don’t know how to prep

cerulean notch
heady stone
#

anyone here ever gone through the internship process for radix

cerulean notch
#

do you know of greenbook?

cerulean notch
# hollow oriole thank you so much🙏

it's possible they don't ask as much probability if you dont have it in prior coursework or list it as prior knowledge? im not sure since I do know probability

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study expected value

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familiarize yourself with annoying ass recurrences like gamblers ruin and properties like linearity of expectation

hollow oriole
cerulean notch
gaunt light
#

What is the reputation of BAM? I am in the process for their applied AI researcher role in the dsai org. Is this good for resume value?

grizzled sapphire
pastel wharf
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i have new grad offers from meta and two sigma, if my goal is to move to tier 1 quant js/citadel which is better. On linkedin I have seen more exits from meta to tier 1 quant than two sigma.

cursive stratus
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erm wht

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citadel isn't even better than two sigma depending on the team

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if u go to meta u straight troll

cursive stratus
pastel wharf
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alot of my friends in tech have said to choose meta

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its just team dependent like most jobs, everyone does layoffs meta is just upfront about it, and its probably the best signal in tech (with google) outside of quant

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plus the turnover is tech is high so most will just end up job hopping after 2-3 years

cursive stratus
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getting promoted faster at meta doesn't help u with landing t1 quant

cursive stratus
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fuck my curdbob life

midnight scroll
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Two sigma new grad is like what, 280? Fair bit higher than meta

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Can't imagine two sigma is worse than meta in hopping opportunities

wicked reef
#

!problems flow traders

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!problems valkyrie trading

dire finch
#

2s is that poverty?

tight mural
#

@lunar thicket shoutout walleye

pastel wharf
lime zealot
#

after that it’s a matter of actually passing the ints lol

cursive granite
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i heard 450k or someshit

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from andrew 😆

brisk ingot
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bc return intern was 350

pastel wharf
wind notch
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sign up bonus is pretty small

midnight scroll
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Actually ig not too nuts

pastel wharf
#

do tier one companies like cit/js/optiver care about non-competes that much? Would it be easier to join as 3-4 years at big fang like meta/google vs competitor?

brisk ingot
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can u dm me the different parts of the letter curious where the difference is

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bc there was a 25k return intern bonus added, idk where the other 25 comes from

brisk ingot
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so like even if it’s a 1 year non compete, for juniors they’ll usually only exercise 6 months

cursive stratus
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ANDREW WALLEYE GOAT

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andrew im orzzing all over u

cursive stratus
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whats non compete for a low latency UI team

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yeah

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react rendering quantitative research

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CODING JESUS

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coding jesus my c# goat

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does ur comp also scale with how not fungible it is

tidal yew
#

does anyone have any insight on whether its better to do qt or qd internship? im debating between whcih path to choose for next year recruiting

red rune
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calc is short for calculator

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i’m just using slang

tidal yew
opal bramble
#

react and perf in the same sentance

opal bramble
echo panther
#

Does anyone know how hard Xantium qd process is

hardy marsh
#

Does anyone know how hard Xantium qd

edgy ledge
#

Anyone knows AQR Quant Research Developer New Grad TC?

nimble quail
#

Anyone know how long it takes to hear back after virtu technical rounds for quant strategist intern

gentle robin
#

whats BlackEdge Capital new grad quant dev comp

midnight scroll
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dont trust me on that number

cursive stratus
#

does anyone know new exlir golem comp?

hexed obsidian
#

does jane street reach headcount or do they finish out processes (how important is it to schedule interview sooner)

tranquil wagon
midnight scroll
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Not levels I asked an ex intern

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He did say tho they were boosting comp since they got that new optiver dude running the joint

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So it might not be 250 anymore

warm kayak
#

What teams/work at bloomberg are best to jump to quant dev

strange trench
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You don’t

azure zenith
#

ofc it’s a thing, a firm will almost certainly want you if you’re already working somewhere good. though occasionally some are weirder about this

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I moved after 1yr (narrowly avoided non compete)

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but it gets harder the longer you stay due to non competes

kindred mortar
azure zenith
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three reasons

kindred mortar
#

Also interesting they didn’t enforce non compete

azure zenith
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  • I view the other firm as a bit better cultural/vibes fit and better performing
  • I figured the hop between competitors would also be a good comp improvement point
  • Wasn’t unhappy with my first place but felt I would be valued a bit better at this new one
azure zenith
kindred mortar
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I guess if are a grad swe under one year it makes sense to skip the non compete

azure zenith
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tbh it lowkey didn’t make sense here, I was close to various sensitive things/etc

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but obviously non compete or not I’m not going to share that information to any other company anyway. however I still would’ve put me on a NC if I was managing ig? A short one but idk

kindred mortar
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I’d argue that most swe have very limited alpha anyway

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Maybe FPGA? But still not like that non compete prevent anything

azure zenith
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half my team did stuff directly with QR

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so i think it’s reasonably sensitive in my case

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FPGA or low latency anything is still gonna be sensitive

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and it will have probably changed after a year so NC would be worth having

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everyone in my original firm is NC after 1yr but I don’t think they enforce it every time anyway

sick flame
#

Does anyone know about the work culture, pay, and job stability at Old Mission Capital?

dire finch
#

omc is not too shabby

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would pick over optiver/imc/sig

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would not pick over the usual suspects

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(for qd)

sick flame
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So I just got the OA for junior SWE for OMC, and I am in team matching for a FAANG company right now. I eventually like the idea of going into quant firms, but no hard requirement for that for me right now (I am a new grad). Not sure if there is any point in even putting any effort into the process here

dreamy temple
sick flame
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Yeah, that's completely fair. Idk why I am using so much brain cells over this right now

dire finch
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would do omc over google

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they have rotationals first year so you wont get immediately fired

wind notch
#

optiver probably better tc wise

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also there are lots of other chi quants

azure zenith
wind notch
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nice

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did they take back the sign on?

azure zenith
#

lol no that’d be terrible

dire finch
#

there are more offices in chicago gang

azure zenith
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I’d worked there for a year, it’s not like I was leaving after 2 months

dire finch
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i reneged for citsec and j curious about culture / tech etc

azure zenith
#

sure

cold heart
#

did omc send everyone to OA again lol

midnight scroll
#

The trade desk is tier1 in Chicago

dire finch
#

trading opt is better but swe omc is better

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is what i was told by folks on both ends

green ibex
#

Do you guys play blackjack?

dire finch
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i do not troll

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lmao what

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send

deft dagger
#

has jane street sophomore IN FOCUS program come out yet

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like results

azure zenith
#

disagree

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also loads of growth opportunity rn in Optiver as a SWE

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it’s definitely not cushy or perfect by any means ofc

ornate urchin
#

"aquatic"

wind notch
#

also pretty sure ctc pays more than omc atp

tranquil wagon
#

omc kinda has aura on the technical side tho

turbid mural
#

It's only possible getting into good quants from undergrad right?

ruby fog
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i think team dependent

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but u dont rlly know that as a ng

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so perhaps as experienced hire

turbid mural
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nah I'm full time and I'm about to apply to grad school

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I realize quant probably ain't happening, even if I go to a top grad school they barely hire anyone with a masters. But at least I could get interviews with Google again probably

untold prawn
#

swe is prolly the most feasible outside of ug

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qt/qr there's like no chance

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they'll intv ppl from top tech with a few yoe

turbid mural
#

to which companies?

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not the top ones like HRT or JS

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top sorry lol

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I didn't go to a good enough undergrad, top 20 but not one quants recruit from

#

Columbia most likely

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yes

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Columbia MSCS

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tha'ts the best I can realistically get into

#

into quant?

#

from which masters?

#

GT in person?

turbid mural
#

One guy did and he had direct connections through family

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It’s not, they have target schools for a reason

dire finch
#

tl;dr get gapped buddy

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🫂

turbid mural
#

Of course not

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How many is “plenty”? Give me a number

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I know how many there are, there’s one lol. I’ve been on LinkedIn

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Of course it isn’t, it’s literally how quant and basically any high paying recruiting works

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I didn’t get interviews with quants, I’ve passed every big tech interview I’ve gotten

dire finch
#

bro coped his way to having no other attractive credentials 🥀

turbid mural
#

Good quants that is, Jane Street, HRT, and Jump

dire finch
#

@lunar thicket is the certain school in the room with us

turbid mural
#

Who gives a shit about the mediocre ones

#

Of course they do not

dire finch
#

i think bro is too deep into the copium

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let him rest

turbid mural
dire finch
#

ok u can be right

#

err

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idk man we can't help you

tranquil wagon
lime zealot
turbid mural
#

you aren't at a quant either lol

#

you still aren't

dire finch
#

bro name is laser focus

#

really laser focused on gimping himself

#

🥀

#

dooming to unemployed true combo at low%

turbid mural
#

I just want more money

#

so I can gamble more

dire finch
#

fax

turbid mural
#

top 20 CS school

#

3.7 gpa

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maybe I just need to start gambling more

#

it's top 20 just for CS

#

actually higher than top 20

#

at least if that list is accurate

#

my school is ranked higher than northeastern on that list

#

which is surprising

#

but there's schools that are ranked lower like Columbia that get FAR more recruiting cause they're actually target schools

rugged rampart
#

Umd?

turbid mural
#

I know one guy from my undergrad who got to a quant

#

out of like thousands of us

#

maybe

#

right I know one guy

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there's one guy who got to JS and maybe one guy who got to HRT, across thousands of us over the past few years

#

I only care about JS, HRT and Jump

#

and maybe Optiver

turbid mural
#

only one got in, maybe 3 interviewed

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and he had connections

#

I knew everyone at my school that was getting interviews with good companies

dire finch
#

he is a knower obviously

#

don't talk to this knower like that

#

village pookie

turbid mural
#

they didn't interview anyone

dire finch
#

consider: your class is dumb

rugged rampart
turbid mural
dire finch
#

oh no wonder

turbid mural
#

i'm not? I graduted 3 years ago

#

ChatGPT literally just came out

#

it's two

#

you're lying

#

it's literally two

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I check linkedin to see where people are going

#

it's two

#

they're both quant devs

#

I am looking at linkedin right now

primal shell
#

Lmfao

turbid mural
#

of course it is

#

there's target schools for a reason

#

maybe it was different 3 years ago

#

or maybe UMD just sucks lol

#

cause the only guys I knew who even got interviews had connections

#

cause it's a terrible school lol

#

I think I should be a bartender

#

I honestly hate being a software engineer lol

#

I like gambling

#

I've been doing that a lot lately

storm turret
#

u just need a good prev

turbid mural
#

unless you count internships. or at least they used to be able to. I didn't

#

I actually got an offer with Palantir somehow but I didn't take it

#

and I lost out on 3 million because of it

storm turret
#

Wait are you still in school

turbid mural
#

nope

#

graduated 3 years ago, never got another interview since lol

#

palantir offer was in 2022, when their stock price was 1/30th of what it is today

#

I should have been a lawyer lol

edgy kayak
#

hi how do you become a quant

storm turret
turbid mural
#

cause I already had an offer and I didn't want to have to get a security clearance and also palantir scared me

#

yes unfortunately

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I have family connections to big law

turbid mural
#

the TC was like 20-30k higher

#

because my job is terrible and I can't get another

#

yes

#

because I'm at a bad company

storm turret
#

like no name firm as in bad?

turbid mural
#

it's very bad

#

I does not

#

palantir pays more

#

more

#

because they have good internal culture, other quants dont

#

I know I can't get to any of those places though

#

no one is ever going to interview me ever again lol

storm turret
#

Go to a faang bro

turbid mural
#

I've literally never gotten another interview since I graduated

#

I've applied since, they don't interview me

#

I even passed Amazon and Google at one point, I turned Amazon down and got waitlisted with Google

#

I've uniornically been considering just quitting my job and being a bum

storm turret
#

Is ur current better or worse than like c1??

turbid mural
#

we're slightly better than amazon, I think

#

or maybe we're not, I don't know

#

we're on amazon level, in some ways we're not as bad, in some ways we're much worse

#

I actually think amazon is higher prestige

#

nah

#

I don't care, like I said I'm probably quitting this field

#

yeah it's Atlassian

#

I just wanna be unemployed

#

my parents are rich, eventually they'll die and I'll inherit a bunch of money

#

I see no point in working

#

no they said no

#

I've never had a girlfriend lol

#

they said they won't

#

I haven't been on a date in like 5 years and don't want to

#

I've been getting into gambling lately

#
  1. illegal 2. morally wrong
#

because it is and I'm not interested. that stuff isn't normal in the US

#

maybe you're from a country where it is, idk

#

I'm just not good at this stuff

#

and my company sucks

#

so I'm at a dead end and I kinda don't care

#

I genuinely wish I would just get laid off and get severance

#

ok

autumn shoal
#

why u think ur life will be better if quant

turbid mural
#

I mean even at Google my life would be drastically better, but I've accepted I'm never getting there

#

I can't even get interviews with Amazon at this point lol. So I'm hoping I just get laid off soon

#

you feel like more of a failure when you're trying your best and still not getting where you wanted to be. once you give up entirely things get a lot easier

#

read blind

#

everyone loves being at HRT and JS

#

it's super chill and pays a ton

#

exactly

#

they just got out of the hell that is 99% of engineering companies

#

big tech is so bad these days

#

except maybe google

#

if you're working on alpha or you had a bad trading day, you're working after hours

#

or if something breaks they need working before opening the next day

#

but they are well run companies so I dont think that stuff happens a ton

#

yeah I'm ready to quit this field but I want severance

#

so I'm quiet quitting, I'm just being lazy until they fire me

#

I have no clue

#

I've only been at one company and I hate it so much lol

#

yeah

#

like 60+

#

I AM working 60+

#

yes

#

so quitting seems like the move

#

it's gotten bad

#

and then I can finally be unemployed

#

and gamble

midnight scroll
#

I mean for some odd reason five rings and sig come to the career fairs

#

I think hrt came once too?

#

2sigma used to (idk if still) put up school exclusive handshake links and I got oa off that one for umd

strange trench
#

Is the tldr of the last like 200 messages just joy boy complaining about his life lol

turbid mural
naive bison
#

in every quant proc ive been in i think ive met at least one other person from umd lol

turbid mural
orchid steeple
#

Anyone have imc proc

#

Or offer

grizzled sapphire
ember star
#

Anyone has tip preparing for super day? I've never done one back to back interviews before 🤣

ornate urchin
glossy canyon
#

anyone have experience for optiver swe? have upcoming system design and live coding round. what kind of questions do they ask for live coding?

austere rampart
#

It’s not

#

P72 is terrible for devs

#

Optimus is best of the best tech outcomes

quasi orbit
#

optimus tc is like 600k

#

source: got ro

grizzled sapphire
quasi orbit
#

yes

#

u dont know? ap has option to split for rsu / option / all cash, ur choice

#

no

#

if u take cash u get what u get

grizzled sapphire
#

I agree w this

#

both databricks and snowflake > p72 swe

#

600k vs 200k man you don't have to care that much to easily choose one or the other. Idk what the conversation here is abt but that's what I am thinking at least

#

quantcel

quasi orbit
#

at the end of the day ur getting advice from people who havent worked at either of those companies

#

???

#

u have not worked there

#

most interns i know at ap rly liked it

grizzled sapphire
#

I have a friend working at cubist, huge bias but obviously he fucks w it

#

Have you been matched yet

quasi orbit
#

if u want more info feel free to dm

#

yeah cuz p72 is a bum hf

#

i am surprised optimus have specific ml infa tho

#

i mean gpu is just gpu

#

not sure if i should say publicly

#

but i was also not aware of a ml infra specific optimus team

fathom kraken
#

i think austin is more low level for chip stuff

midnight scroll
#

can't speak for tesla but at least for meta the amount of ml infra teams cannot be counted on your hands and feet combined

quasi orbit
midnight scroll
#

its a lot but also the scale that they operate at is much bigger tbf

brisk ingot
#

like ai4

azure zenith
#

reading this chat makes me feel better about not being this way lol

crude frigate
#

guys im 21 backwards is it too late to be a quant

#

am i behind

#

sigh

grizzled sapphire
#

Stealing orz's memes for clout on cscd 💔

#

(I lowkey do the same he too funny)

#

it's over bro

#

lmaooo

#

Bro same with my friend gc

#

I fw this one so heavy

#

Gotta gatekeep them tho

#

to use at the perfect time

ashen ledge
#

there’s also a couple dudes who interviewed for optiver SWE and 1 got offer

#

not everyone updates their LinkedIn so u can’t cope and say UMD is the reason ur not getting interviews when u have 3YOE😭

#

also if ur 3 years out of UMD i promise u do not know everyone at UMD getting quant procs by looking at LinkedIn, esp bc that doesn’t take into account people who turn down quant

untold prawn
#

aint no way bro is saying umd is stopping him from getting quant procs 😹

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acc maybe it's ragebait

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in which case it was 10/10 successful

ashen ledge
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yeah😭😭😭

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doesn’t seem like he’s trolling tho

median gust
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Anyone got citadel SWE intern superday advice?

twin sentinel
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Hey @median gust, sent you a dm

dire finch
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Yes

median gust
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Heard the industry is pretty small, might have rippling consequences

wind notch
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ft?

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oh

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were u an intern at imc?

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do you care about wlb

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or comp

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reneging isn't a big deal here imo