#quants-n-traders
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Glad ur enjoying it
yessir
You gonna stay in the space?
Wdym, like no equity?
like being tied to product success is kind of annoying
Isn’t that like almost every company in the world
Got told on the spot for my recruiter screen that I’ll be moving to next round and to send availability for onsite next week then get ghosted 💀
It’s so joever ngl why are recruiters like this 😭
270k tc I think
is that recurring or first year?
@dire finch Seeing your username made my day better
What does citadel base/bonus/signing split look like?
did i parallelize your for loop today
wow thats impoverished
how much additional maths do you guys think is expected to be known for a pure cs degree to be a qt or a qd
y1 undergrad so trying to plan out free time
Does sig blacklist if you turn down their interview due to already signing another offer
depends, not to much if you qd but qt maybe some more advanced stats
but if your going for qd you really need to focus on programming
Thank you!!
whichever one has harder technical
active trading strategies sounds kind of baller
but ik a lot of firms have pricing teams so lateraling is probably the same for both
Bro who told u this qt is 250k lol
ya i heard swe got 270k but someone told me 350k so i wasnst sure if swe first year is 350k
would quant dev or quant start be the same?
Bro ur literally in hs
Ur answer was just vacuous, they said how much more math do you need and you said maybe some more stats
You should probably preface any answer you give with the fact that you’re just answering based off of vibes bc you haven’t been exposed to actual work that a qd or qt does
It’s cool that u have an interest in this stuff but for rn ur probably better off taking advice than giving advice on the field
has anyone done optiver qt r2? are the games harder than r1?
Depends when you notify
If it’s a day before then yeah but if you give them time in advance idts. Life happens i doubt a recruiter will rlly think much of it
Hmm hard to say tbh. If you feel like they fw and it won’t hurt your chances then you’re prob fine
but my answer not wrong…
i know tons of people in industry they all say the same thing
the is exactly what my quant friend said:
“I think the math that you'll really want is the following:
• Multivariable Calculus
• Linear Algebra
• Probability / Statistics
• Differential equations (some PDEs pop up from time to time
• Convex Optimization
• Real Analysis
• Some game theory depending on your paradigm of trade
All of that should back an extremely intricate knowledge and skill set of machine learning”
Why ML specifically?
A lot of QR (and some QT) interviews require ML knowledge
Mainly the basic stuff though
This is pretty accurate even if it’s GPT
good to hear, tyvm!
If I have a masters at same rando state school and currently working at some rando bank is there a way to break into quant?
not GPT, my friend gave this to me!
i don’t have enough time to entertain this all that matters is that I (ME) know that’s not true
convex optimization???
lmao
real anal as well💀
def eq
you (YOU)
wait LOL i feel like it highly depends on how harsh your interviewers are and what you have on ur resume
i personally have never seen diff eq being asked but my citsec superday interviewer asked me to define the riemann and lebesgue integral in an interview before (not related to any problem, lowkey i think he was just being a dick)
no i think it wasn't too out of left field, we were walking thru my resume and i mentioned math research
so maybe he was doing it to verify i wasn't completely bs'ing
he also followed up with some ML questions like how a GAN worked under the hood etc because i had put my experiences working with them in the past
this is kinda crazy how hs now are even aware of this industry LOL i didn't learn what this industry even was until like sophomore spring
yeah i dont think it was completely unreasonable, altho i would say i def did not expect to see that coming in a quant interview and caught me off guard LOL
also idk about lebesgue integral being intro analysis LOL i didnt learn about it until i took a measure theory class
yeah LOL its also the last chapter of baby rudin iirc but we didn't make it that far when i took it
Yeah I was just surprised lol
its like horizontal instead of vertical
omg i have my first round with them after Nov 2
mines soon😭
has anyone interviewed at gqs for software
is there anyone who gave akuna vidcruiter assessment? what do they ask and how to prepare for it?
QR or swe
pls define the lebesgue integral
For finite sum of constant functions, are you implying that the domain of the constant functions might not be the same as the domain of the simply functions, but are disjoint from the other constant function domains and union to the simple function domain?
it is! upper lower integral very familiar lmao
and sigma algebra kinda feels similar to a topology axiom-wise
makes sense, much clearer than how I phrased it lol
but equivalent
I've heard that the vitali set is non measurable but from the definitions provided it seems like it's easy to define a measure on the vitali set (any set rly)
do ppl just call it unmeasurable bc it can't be in any sigma algebra defined on the reals?
but surely P(R) is a valid sigma algebra
oh
makes sense thanks 👍
that kinda jogged my memory slightly
lebesgue measure is just slightly nicer version of jordan measure but like actually useful
what are reasonable projects to build that could stand out for quant dev / qt?
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whats the roundabout away
Very worth, that would be such a cool job
Depends on ur other offers
Seems like there’s a lot of upside though just looking at the trend of the trading volume on there
tbh valid concern to not want to join a startup for visa reasons
which would u pick if visa wasnt issue?
You should totally do it imo
Assuming it doesn’t work out you’ll be able to find another job
Kalshi trading would be so so cool and you’d grow a ton since it’s an emerging market and a new company
For kalshi trading ur goal is still vol isn’t it
Since they market make
When you say vol do u mean volatility or volume
Oh
No I think they would care about pnl
It’s a different company isn’t it
Like a subsidiary
So they’d have their own revenue
Which would be trading revenue not fees
QR
5 rapid fire math problems in probability, Lin alg, etc
U have like 2 min per problem iirc
friend works there, whats the read on these guys
Wtf lol
hey
i am new here and to CS and quant but very intrested and good knowledge of econmics with a brain apt for algo where and how can i begin
i am in
2nd year
were u atleast t10 cs tho?
this hasn't worked for me and im like t25 cs prob, but i have really good prev
the issue is u dont have andrew's aura
yea i forgot to account for that
Thanks homie
Has anyone done voloridge technical phone screen ? What to expect?
nah, ai lab on res
damn ur crazy
i've gotten ints at all omms but not a single recruiter responded to my emails
I don’t even remember applying to ts
No recruiter
no i didnt get it
orz pacific daylight trading
Hello,
I am a blockchain and AI developer. I have solid tech and rich experience in these fields.
anyone who want to create their own project, such as a game, bot, or website?
I’ve had this happen to me like 3 times atp it’s infuriating 😭
an important part of tqd was lost 🥀
yo anyone know if theres a quant discord? got a DE shaw swe interview
anyone know if shaw cares about gpa? probably gonna just email my recruiter and tell them my gpa so i dont waste my time prepping for ts lmao
us ngmis dont have gpa on res
not a ng, have 2 YOE and got directly reached out to by a shaw recruiter
Lol
Got final round for WF 🙏
can u pls send the link
:3
for interns?
Is UChicago a target for quant?
Rage bait?
For more context compared to UIUC
UIUC a bit better ig? Marginal difference
So not worth transferring
If you’re doing it for the sole purpose of being more appealing for quant, no not worth
Alrighty
Msft ai
jane street imo
or citadel securities
doing well in quant internships there will get u quant screens
i think so if ur pure math or physics
those subjects are quite rigorous at chicago i heard
i think they do
i don’t know about 2yoe but intern/ng I know they do for sure
de shaw had an unbearable application
I know people from Uchicago go to literally every firm you can think of
Uchicago is great
And easier to stand out there than UIUC
IMO
bro i just got grilled by a quant interviewer its so over
bro kept saying NO ur algo doesn't work
😭😭😭
Next time consider writing an algo that works, your approach this time was interesting though
Haha mb homie I’m jk
Aren’t I mocking u
Or did I forget who I’m interviewing
Oh ye
I think I said I’ll do it tmrw tho bc I have an exam tmrw that I haven’t studied for yet haha
Oh wait
Today is Wednesday
Wtf
but his algo doesn't work for edge case💔
it was greedy + doesn't pass edge case
😭😭😭
he didn't like my dfs
im so sad
are u tho
Is this happening here 👀
Okay I need a person who's already an experienced Quant or have more information on it to explain what is needed to actually get into this competitive field
be smart
if you think you're smart you're washed
if you think you're washed you can get in
Anyone have info on js swe r1?
is it too late to apply/get interviews at this point?
wont hurt to apply but recruiting is mostly done
Would you guys recommend WF quant over BofA quant? I have final round for both, but BofA returns the offer faster, so I want to know which one I should take if I get them
Dyk avg response time for js r1?
You guys I'm still learning terminology here I need y'all to speak English for 5 seconds
anyone know if the bridgewater IA final is just another debate with an IA
if you list it on ur resume be prepared to talk about it in depth
Anyone did Optiver OA before?
yep
whats imc qt ro rate?
Is the next general hiring cycle around March? Does it matter if you applied now/in the Fall already?
Does anyone know if CTC is at headcount for QT interns
it's pretty late so prob
anyone know how hard 2 sigma swe intern screen is if I got oa
It was quite light for Freshman SWE so I assume similar for normal? Might be wrong
wait isn't the final a superday
I did my int a few days ago and didn't hear back ig im rejected
i think they might school screen
Is bridgewater still accepting new apps for their investment associate/engineer internship? Or is it alr over
?
has anyone heard back from bridgewater 2nd round technical interview
anybody did r2 algo dev hrt? or super day citadel swe?
can trade info!!
what
whats wrong with it
she said its p chill for intern i learn about shit first few weeks then shadow
also interviewers didnt seem like they hated it
anyone know if there's a citadel discord?
is it like that for most quant firms? i heard citsec fires like the bottom 20% of traders every other year or smth
yeah but getting unlucky one year and getting fucked because of variance seems like a bad way to go
play more
and study theory
yeah fair enough but imagine getting let go y1 because u got unlucky XD
wait y1 isnt lasting tho
arent u in training for like 6-9 months
oh thats fair
the basic rules of poker? i think those are pretty fast to pick up
im gonna be completely honest i cannot tell if ur trolling or not
oh i guess wikihow works but yeah just learn the basic rules, go get some friends to play micro stakes like .1/.2 or smth to build beginner intuition and then read up on pot odds/more complex theory ig
dont listen to him, play just with the normal rules first then get into theory
they ask questions, you don't answer them well enough, you get cut
The bottom 10% gets fired every year in pretty much any high paying industry position
this isnt legit right
the linkedin goes to a legit profile it seems like
but i dont know if the email is from who the linkedin is
is it in person onsite?
def not legit 💀 pls don't get scammed
worth it if u want to gamble with the other interns
salary is much lower than the average. Total comp is like 130-50 bands. I got recommended by a close friend of mine but I didnt take it seriously
it is very good resume boost tho
it has a live in person interview
its mostly a design queston\
yeah
c++
I only do c++
oh I see
tbh python is not that difficult to learn if youseen a more difficult programming language
the usual difficult is the math questions
yeah
no for c++ its for SWE
its mostly design
but world quant is a trader specific firm
that uses software provided by millenium
its basically the firm that uses stat arb
under millenium
11 hour
1
1 hour
Did anyone interviewed for swe intern position at scalp trade?
Yea
can someone send me tqd link pls?
Same can I also get tqd link pls?
Dm me for tqd links
anyone done Akuna trading sneak peek week vidcruiter?
anyone done hrt Python process?
you might pass a couple screens, you just have to make sure to capitalize on them because you wont pass a lot
Ok gotcha
depends on school
It’s like t100 state school non target
So not that well known
yeah i doubt it ngl
generally yes
if ur school is bad ur exp needs to be much stronger
honestly prolly not worth ur time to prep qd/qswe stuff that doesn't also help w/ faang+ intvs
unless u are alr rlly good at lc
Yeah
a lot of oa's have lc but intv q's are generally more impl
yes
Hmm okay ic
either way i wouldn't worry ab impl q's just focus on lc for now
u can try for quant junior year
Gotcha yeah I js wanna get cracked at lc at least
Thanks Heisenberg and cattwrmelon 🙏
meh
have u won notable trading competitions?
no but i did very good on putnam
whats like the min gpa needed for js/hrt/citadel? 3.9?
cant u just lie
if u got a 3.7
dont they like ask for transcripts later
i feel like u'll get cooked if u jus completely lie abt gpa
worry abt the interview
not the gpa
if u got a 3.7 u can just say it dropped and u forgot to update it on resume if they ask
that's more doable than a 2.5 lying abt a 3.9
tradings not ddoable unless u go to t20 at least unless ur like usamo or smt
odds r very low
but swe should be doable
ik ppl who got inot optiver form no name state schools no prevs
Upcoming first round with Citadel for SWE intern anyone have advice for how to prep?
Yeah that was like the first thing I did, looking for next steps now
@woven wedge What kind of behavioural do they ask?
Interview came with a coderpad tho so I expect a coding question atleast
Just first round so it’s tech
Yeah
Do you go to UIUC☠️
Actually nah kinda hard to have a 3.7 GPA in CS at UIUC since CS GPAs are mad inflated
Loo represent
larpers
my people
Why am I banned from Tqd 🥀🥀
Dog has anyone done pdt proc before
Linking tqd 🥀
Anyone know how trexquant is as a company for swe / also what is typical comp
No the holy land of tqd has been desecrated by swecels 😔
has anyone done the de shaw codility
Had the most wild HR interview with them recently
lol why
is millenium any good
HR was rude and cut me off several times
Anyone able to review a resume? Have been struggling to get any 1 round interviews. Not sure why, very open to advice
Recruiter initials BS?
Freudian
is hrt oa auto lol
got emailed by a recruiter
also i applied like a while ago
funny thing is they rejected me also a while ago
but now i got oa lol
whats process for jane street qt look like?
anyone have information for HRT python NG onsite
💀
anyone know anything about Soros Fund Management Quant interviews?
Does anybody know Sig ng salery? Recurring and fy comp?
QT, SWE, or QSD?
Specifically qsd and swe. But would love to know qt too.
anyone do hrt onsite for c++ swe?
I have an idea of these, afaik SWE is around 200-220 ish, QSD is 350, Idk QT but my guess would be 500+
First year or recurring
?
is SIG OA auto for QR?
The blind leading the blind
has hrt soph already released all interviews?
also r hrt/js the only two firms that normally take sophomores
thoughts on jump vs. citsec vs. xantium (swe/qd)
Jump
how come jump? xantium also seems pretty good
I don’t rlly get where the hype around xantium comes from, I talked to some people there and nothing stood out about it
Jump has very good c++ and very fast execution so as a swe its a cool place to be
Also they pay very well
to me seems like good wlb + good C++ + benefits/remote work and stuff at xantium while also getting paid well
vs jump comes across a bit more grind-y
but also prob more upside there
Xantium doesn’t pay as much but sure maybe the wlb is better, I’ve heard jump wlb is made out to be worse than it is though
I have a good friend who works there and he does 40-45 hrs a week
at jump?
Yes
is he core dev or on a trading team
Core dev
ah
i interviewed jump swe on trading team and it seems like a bit worse wlb than core dev
but also more upside since bonus is directly tied to that team's pnl
It sounds like you are looking for people to tell u to take Xantium, if you want to do that then just go for it
None of the offers are bad
I would just personally take jump
All the xantium interns i knew last summer generally worked 8:30-7:30
Not bad but probably not what you had in mind for good wlb
I think interns everywhere work a lot tho
If u want a RO and u aren’t grinding for it idk what ur doing
I guess I can’t give anything but anecdotal evidence, but all the people I know as interns worked more than the ft people on their team
if ur not pouring ur blood and tears into ur favorite quant company what are u doing really
Lmao fr fr
damn fr
thats not great wlb lol
it will
matters more that you're on the right team
^
ok do it then ???
Would there be comp diff for swe too based on front/middle/back office?
Are quant procs finished?
I’m planning to apply to drw
and a couple others for quant research internships
william i have a q, both ig kind of smaller mid tier firms but would u go for voloridge qd or acadian qd?
Honestly I’d just go with whichever you preferred the vibes of during the interview process or if u will be on a much cooler team at one
awesome gotcha, do you know anything about them in terms of reputation? i have heard nothing tbh and also wasnt able to find a ton of info on either
like no crazy red flags?
I haven’t heard of any red flags, doesn’t mean there aren’t any, @lunar thicket might know more. Neither has a reputation that’s much better than the other from what I know
okay awesome thank you so much!
wouldn’t agree with this given it’s an internship
once you have some decent firm name on your cv for an internship then NG apps CV stage are way more approachable
Afaik this is based on many variables though and not necessarily expected
when I’ve had interns on my team they have definitely worked longer hours than the team and I’ve literally told them they should go home
when I was an intern I worked up to when my team left generally
I think interns are very susceptible to the “I must appear to be working as hard as possible at all times for as long as possible” mindset
Team matters a lot for internship bc it’s important to get an interesting project to talk about in interviews
IMO it’s what you make of it that matters, doing something impressive is in your control regardless of the project premise
but even then, I don’t think I’ve ever had to talk about my intern project for more than 10-15 mins in an interview process. Usually the weight is almost all on your technical skills in the interview, not anything you say you’ve done before
only exception was radix, which did have a whole interview about it but said it could be on any project (so doesn’t have to be your internship one if you really think it’s bad)
I don’t think this is true lol, I’ve seen some interns get stuck on teams with terrible projects and where the full time people don’t invest any time into them
In my interviews I’ve spoken quite a lot about my intern projects
that is fair but I think more of an outlier (at a good firm) then a strict “make sure you’re not in a boring team” rule
I definitely agree in seeing some people get dealt shitty cards though
but that has happened even in great teams
if you interview well on the technical side I don’t think anyone will care as much that your previous project wasn’t that interesting
of course, this is an opinion on anecdotal evidence though so obviously I can’t say it’s representative for the whole industry.
Sure it’s not like if you have a bad project ur totally fucked but if u know you’ll get a better project on a better team at one company I think that’s worth considering because it’ll be an advantage
I can agree with that
LOL
whats the sentiment on vatic labs
What evaluation
what firms dont care abt gpa
Very positive
all of them if u have suitable experience/comp math exp/etc
not sure but prob not for all events, i got 3rd place at an event last year and they still resume rejected me LOL
at hc i fear 🥀
ai team might have something but its all corporate erp stuff
im trying to lock in and land top quant swe internship next yr. Ideally like Jump, JS, HRT. What should i focus on?
just leetcode? i can do like 50-60% of lc meds in 25-30 mins rn ...
I’m taking OS, High Performance Computing, and Modern Storage Systems (all cpp courses) next sem
i failed citadel technical this year unfortunately but will have 2x faang+ by the time i apply for summer 27
my plan rn is:
- take next sem courses
- read up on more cpp outside of class and maybe do some projects in cpp
- try to solve another 200-300 lc problems by may (currently have ~150 solved). maybe after that, experiemnt with some codeforces.
- do more impl heavy questions / just write more code in general (prob in python/cpp for this) to prep for JS.
is this even a good idea? my like only motivation is that quant pays more $$$
i guess if im gonna code for my job anyways then i might as well make more money doing it, right?
why are you incorporating a company into your life plan 😭
not sure tbh, hence this
.
if the roles were reversed and tech paid 500k and quant was 200k then i prob wouldnt do any of this ngl
but also this
js or dishonor
Actually i was considering hpc too
U think its worth or overkill? Atl for mine it seems emphasized on hardware since its in ece
Anyone familiar with select equity group?
!problems susquahana international group
!problems getco llc
uh sure but im swe
I generally disagree ^. If youre willing to put in the work, there is no harm in gunning for quant. If you try it and dont like it than its easy to pivot to big tech. If you dont get it nbd, b/c you probably got a big tech offer w/ all that prep
xantium is low-level c++ execution dev vs. jump is c++ on a trading team specializing in us equities. think jump's us equities stuff is pretty new, don't think it's that profitable yet but upside could be massive. idk if you've heard anythin ab that jump team
who is this mogger
Eh maybe but don’t underestimate golden handcuffs and mental health
jump offer is slightly better yeah i think i might lean there
if you’re not actually that passionate about the work but you don’t want to switch and take the (usually large) pay cut then you fall into a spiral easily
any reason why you're immediately leanin jump?
like what have you heard etc
i got a friend there who likes it but says it can be a little grindy at times
head of qr based in HK?
could I cop this too?
Can I get this 🙏
is green book enough to pass interviews
Is it? I heard it's no longer enough for qt either
Has anyone here ever interviewed for quant fpga?
hey man
whats point72 superday like for swe
HI EVERYONE im VED im newe to quants and finance world i have a cse background what would you guys suggest to start with i like challenges and soling problems
Anyone done HRT R2 for C++ dev?
dm
What is the Optiver kickstarter trading event process is like? Do they int you with brain teasers/prob or lc?
They said that they will send me an oa and if I get through it, it will be an hour technical
Optiver Future Focus program opens soon. If you are currently a sophomore DM me a resume and role (quant or tech) and I'll refer cracked people
if you screw up you apply again in august, if you do good then you don't have to do it again!
They gonna see me apply with like 3 diff grad dates over the next few years 💀
Does anyone here know about capula RO rate?
ended up takin jump, thx for the insight
just curious, what's tc at jump?
Congrats
This for intern or ft?
i’m a quant
does anyone know if citadel does off-season internships? in spring or fall
yes
they do
ur not getting it
ur ngmi
sorry
u have to get the offer for sumemr and beg them to push to fall
i cant believe how much he makes off ts
preying on ngmis is too lucrative ig
he said like 60k/mo
way more than he ever made as a dev lol
for what its worth, everyone ik at xantium loves the WLB and hours are pretty good
not rly i heard of his salary at his last compnay
yea but in terms of comp progression i was a bit more confident in jump
but it will prob be a grind lol
another smaller quant firm
oh very nice
Is that swe ?
yea, but not core dev, swe on equities trading team
was that just team matched after application through regular swe
@lunar thicket reply to me you headass mf I need help
You were not on a date you made the girl up to try and look cooler I did the same thing in hs
You can't do that and be broke at the same time get ur money up
Give to me
Yo-ho
just dont tell them and do the interview bruh
Baller! The next level to this would be having a well stocked office pantry where you spend your midday munching on a wide variety of snacks. Few know this.
@pseudo dragon
British petroleum?
Can you take the different parts of optiver oa separately
Like numberlogic one day and then zapn like 4 days later
Is there like a neetcode 150 type thing but for algo dev?
algo dev as in hrt's version of qr?
Yeah I have their sophomore internship interview and don’t know how to prep
prob do some probability and leetcode
anyone here ever gone through the internship process for radix
do you know of greenbook?
thank you so much🙏
it's possible they don't ask as much probability if you dont have it in prior coursework or list it as prior knowledge? im not sure since I do know probability
study expected value
familiarize yourself with annoying ass recurrences like gamblers ruin and properties like linearity of expectation
Wait are you in the sophomore process as well or was this more of a general statement?
I did a hrt women intern process
What is the reputation of BAM? I am in the process for their applied AI researcher role in the dsai org. Is this good for resume value?
Hrt's algo dev is QR. Prep for it like for other qr roles
i have new grad offers from meta and two sigma, if my goal is to move to tier 1 quant js/citadel which is better. On linkedin I have seen more exits from meta to tier 1 quant than two sigma.
erm wht
citadel isn't even better than two sigma depending on the team
if u go to meta u straight troll
cuz theres like 200000 people working at meta and 200 working at two sig
i have been told the leveling at two sigma is bad and you could make more money with leveling in tech especially in meta
alot of my friends in tech have said to choose meta
its just team dependent like most jobs, everyone does layoffs meta is just upfront about it, and its probably the best signal in tech (with google) outside of quant
plus the turnover is tech is high so most will just end up job hopping after 2-3 years
getting promoted faster at meta doesn't help u with landing t1 quant
fuck my curdbob life
Yes this is certainly true but if you're looking to hop it won't matter as much
Two sigma new grad is like what, 280? Fair bit higher than meta
Can't imagine two sigma is worse than meta in hopping opportunities
what lol
2s is that poverty?
@lunar thicket shoutout walleye
2s has a one year non compete so idk how easy that would make it to work at t1 quant shops
you will likely get interviews with both
after that it’s a matter of actually passing the ints lol
external offer two sigma is 325 i’m pretty sure
bc return intern was 350
its like 300k, you can nego but you need offer letter
sign up bonus is pretty small
Jeez crazy disconnect compared to ng
Actually ig not too nuts
do tier one companies like cit/js/optiver care about non-competes that much? Would it be easier to join as 3-4 years at big fang like meta/google vs competitor?
did u get it officially
can u dm me the different parts of the letter curious where the difference is
bc there was a 25k return intern bonus added, idk where the other 25 comes from
usually quant non competes aren’t fully exercised unless ur quite senior
so like even if it’s a 1 year non compete, for juniors they’ll usually only exercise 6 months
oh, that makes sense
whats non compete for a low latency UI team
yeah
react rendering quantitative research
CODING JESUS
coding jesus my c# goat
does ur comp also scale with how not fungible it is
does anyone have any insight on whether its better to do qt or qd internship? im debating between whcih path to choose for next year recruiting
whatre u doing next year
the one you're better at
Im interning at meta for 2026
react and perf in the same sentance
can i give you a coding jesus esque question?
Does anyone know how hard Xantium qd process is
Does anyone know how hard Xantium qd
Anyone knows AQR Quant Research Developer New Grad TC?
Anyone know how long it takes to hear back after virtu technical rounds for quant strategist intern
whats BlackEdge Capital new grad quant dev comp
it was something like 250 if I remember. I was in proc last year and hit up some linkedin people for that # but I could totally be misremembering
dont trust me on that number
levels shows something similar
does anyone know new exlir golem comp?
does jane street reach headcount or do they finish out processes (how important is it to schedule interview sooner)
Levels for small quant firms generally incredibly inaccurate
Not levels I asked an ex intern
He did say tho they were boosting comp since they got that new optiver dude running the joint
So it might not be 250 anymore
they’re done
What teams/work at bloomberg are best to jump to quant dev
You don’t
ofc it’s a thing, a firm will almost certainly want you if you’re already working somewhere good. though occasionally some are weirder about this
I moved after 1yr (narrowly avoided non compete)
but it gets harder the longer you stay due to non competes
Why did you move so soon ?
three reasons
Also interesting they didn’t enforce non compete
- I view the other firm as a bit better cultural/vibes fit and better performing
- I figured the hop between competitors would also be a good comp improvement point
- Wasn’t unhappy with my first place but felt I would be valued a bit better at this new one
Didn’t have one for my first year at the original firm (standard).Would’ve signed onto one soonish
I guess if are a grad swe under one year it makes sense to skip the non compete
tbh it lowkey didn’t make sense here, I was close to various sensitive things/etc
but obviously non compete or not I’m not going to share that information to any other company anyway. however I still would’ve put me on a NC if I was managing ig? A short one but idk
I’d argue that most swe have very limited alpha anyway
Maybe FPGA? But still not like that non compete prevent anything
half my team did stuff directly with QR
so i think it’s reasonably sensitive in my case
FPGA or low latency anything is still gonna be sensitive
and it will have probably changed after a year so NC would be worth having
everyone in my original firm is NC after 1yr but I don’t think they enforce it every time anyway
Does anyone know about the work culture, pay, and job stability at Old Mission Capital?
omc is not too shabby
would pick over optiver/imc/sig
would not pick over the usual suspects
(for qd)
So I just got the OA for junior SWE for OMC, and I am in team matching for a FAANG company right now. I eventually like the idea of going into quant firms, but no hard requirement for that for me right now (I am a new grad). Not sure if there is any point in even putting any effort into the process here
since you said team matching instead of offer, i'd assume it's not guaranteed so why not do omc proc
Yeah, that's completely fair. Idk why I am using so much brain cells over this right now
would do omc over google
they have rotationals first year so you wont get immediately fired
just curious, which firm did u move from/to?
optiver probably better tc wise
also there are lots of other chi quants
Optiver -> JS
lol no that’d be terrible
there are more offices in chicago gang
I’d worked there for a year, it’s not like I was leaving after 2 months
can i dm about optiver
i reneged for citsec and j curious about culture / tech etc
sure
did omc send everyone to OA again lol
The trade desk is tier1 in Chicago
Do you guys play blackjack?
disagree
also loads of growth opportunity rn in Optiver as a SWE
it’s definitely not cushy or perfect by any means ofc
"aquatic"
also pretty sure ctc pays more than omc atp
omc kinda has aura on the technical side tho
It's only possible getting into good quants from undergrad right?
i think team dependent
but u dont rlly know that as a ng
so perhaps as experienced hire
nah I'm full time and I'm about to apply to grad school
I realize quant probably ain't happening, even if I go to a top grad school they barely hire anyone with a masters. But at least I could get interviews with Google again probably
swe is prolly the most feasible outside of ug
qt/qr there's like no chance
they'll intv ppl from top tech with a few yoe
to which companies?
not the top ones like HRT or JS
top sorry lol
I didn't go to a good enough undergrad, top 20 but not one quants recruit from
Columbia most likely
yes
Columbia MSCS
tha'ts the best I can realistically get into
into quant?
from which masters?
GT in person?
One guy did and he had direct connections through family
It’s not, they have target schools for a reason
Of course not
How many is “plenty”? Give me a number
I know how many there are, there’s one lol. I’ve been on LinkedIn
Of course it isn’t, it’s literally how quant and basically any high paying recruiting works
I didn’t get interviews with quants, I’ve passed every big tech interview I’ve gotten
bro coped his way to having no other attractive credentials 🥀
Quants only recruit from certain schools
Good quants that is, Jane Street, HRT, and Jump
@lunar thicket is the certain school in the room with us
Nah I’m just right

lol
bro name is laser focus
really laser focused on gimping himself
🥀
dooming to unemployed true combo at low%
I have a job
I just want more money
so I can gamble more
fax
top 20 CS school
3.7 gpa
maybe I just need to start gambling more
it's top 20 just for CS
actually higher than top 20
at least if that list is accurate
my school is ranked higher than northeastern on that list
which is surprising
but there's schools that are ranked lower like Columbia that get FAR more recruiting cause they're actually target schools
Umd?
I know one guy from my undergrad who got to a quant
out of like thousands of us
maybe
right I know one guy
there's one guy who got to JS and maybe one guy who got to HRT, across thousands of us over the past few years
I only care about JS, HRT and Jump
and maybe Optiver
Cit interviews a lot too
I dont want to go to citadel?
only one got in, maybe 3 interviewed
and he had connections
I knew everyone at my school that was getting interviews with good companies
they didn't interview anyone
consider: your class is dumb
Did you know someone who got OpenAI residency from your school
OpenAI was barely a thing by the time I graduated so no
oh no wonder
i'm not? I graduted 3 years ago
ChatGPT literally just came out
it's two
you're lying
it's literally two
I check linkedin to see where people are going
it's two
they're both quant devs
I am looking at linkedin right now
Lmfao
of course it is
there's target schools for a reason
maybe it was different 3 years ago
or maybe UMD just sucks lol
cause the only guys I knew who even got interviews had connections
cause it's a terrible school lol
I think I should be a bartender
I honestly hate being a software engineer lol
I like gambling
I've been doing that a lot lately
no one here gets that lol
unless you count internships. or at least they used to be able to. I didn't
I actually got an offer with Palantir somehow but I didn't take it
and I lost out on 3 million because of it
Wait are you still in school
nope
graduated 3 years ago, never got another interview since lol
palantir offer was in 2022, when their stock price was 1/30th of what it is today
I should have been a lawyer lol
hi how do you become a quant
What firm r u at? Is it on palantir level?
cause I already had an offer and I didn't want to have to get a security clearance and also palantir scared me
yes unfortunately
I have family connections to big law
I am at a very bad company
the TC was like 20-30k higher
because my job is terrible and I can't get another
yes
because I'm at a bad company
like no name firm as in bad?
it's very bad
I does not
palantir pays more
more
because they have good internal culture, other quants dont
I know I can't get to any of those places though
no one is ever going to interview me ever again lol
Go to a faang bro
I have applied literally hundreds of times
I've literally never gotten another interview since I graduated
I've applied since, they don't interview me
I even passed Amazon and Google at one point, I turned Amazon down and got waitlisted with Google
I've uniornically been considering just quitting my job and being a bum
Is ur current better or worse than like c1??
we're slightly better than amazon, I think
or maybe we're not, I don't know
we're on amazon level, in some ways we're not as bad, in some ways we're much worse
I actually think amazon is higher prestige
nah
I don't care, like I said I'm probably quitting this field
yeah it's Atlassian
I just wanna be unemployed
my parents are rich, eventually they'll die and I'll inherit a bunch of money
I see no point in working
no they said no
I've never had a girlfriend lol
they said they won't
I haven't been on a date in like 5 years and don't want to
I've been getting into gambling lately
- illegal 2. morally wrong
because it is and I'm not interested. that stuff isn't normal in the US
maybe you're from a country where it is, idk
I'm just not good at this stuff
and my company sucks
so I'm at a dead end and I kinda don't care
I genuinely wish I would just get laid off and get severance
ok
why u think ur life will be better if quant
better culture, money, prestige, NYC
I mean even at Google my life would be drastically better, but I've accepted I'm never getting there
I can't even get interviews with Amazon at this point lol. So I'm hoping I just get laid off soon
you feel like more of a failure when you're trying your best and still not getting where you wanted to be. once you give up entirely things get a lot easier
read blind
everyone loves being at HRT and JS
it's super chill and pays a ton
exactly
they just got out of the hell that is 99% of engineering companies
big tech is so bad these days
except maybe google
if you're working on alpha or you had a bad trading day, you're working after hours
or if something breaks they need working before opening the next day
but they are well run companies so I dont think that stuff happens a ton
yeah I'm ready to quit this field but I want severance
so I'm quiet quitting, I'm just being lazy until they fire me
I have no clue
I've only been at one company and I hate it so much lol
yeah
like 60+
I AM working 60+
yes
so quitting seems like the move
it's gotten bad
and then I can finally be unemployed
and gamble
Pretty much everyone I know at UMD has interviewd for at least one firm
I mean for some odd reason five rings and sig come to the career fairs
I think hrt came once too?
2sigma used to (idk if still) put up school exclusive handshake links and I got oa off that one for umd
Is the tldr of the last like 200 messages just joy boy complaining about his life lol
It 100% was not like that 3 years ago
in every quant proc ive been in i think ive met at least one other person from umd lol
Maybe things changed, it definitely wasn’t like that 3 years ago
correct
Ironic for someone named joy boy. Has bro really unlocked gear 5?
Anyone has tip preparing for super day? I've never done one back to back interviews before 🤣
Sleep well, shits exhausting
be fast
anyone have experience for optiver swe? have upcoming system design and live coding round. what kind of questions do they ask for live coding?
Wtf actually?
yes
u dont know? ap has option to split for rsu / option / all cash, ur choice
no
if u take cash u get what u get
I agree w this
both databricks and snowflake > p72 swe
600k vs 200k man you don't have to care that much to easily choose one or the other. Idk what the conversation here is abt but that's what I am thinking at least
quantcel
at the end of the day ur getting advice from people who havent worked at either of those companies
???
u have not worked there
most interns i know at ap rly liked it
I have a friend working at cubist, huge bias but obviously he fucks w it
Have you been matched yet
if u want more info feel free to dm
yeah cuz p72 is a bum hf
i am surprised optimus have specific ml infa tho
i mean gpu is just gpu
not sure if i should say publicly
but i was also not aware of a ml infra specific optimus team
i think austin is more low level for chip stuff
you'd be surprised
can't speak for tesla but at least for meta the amount of ml infra teams cannot be counted on your hands and feet combined
Are you saying too many or too few
its a lot but also the scale that they operate at is much bigger tbf
reading this chat makes me feel better about not being this way lol
Stealing orz's memes for clout on cscd 💔
(I lowkey do the same he too funny)
it's over bro
lmaooo
Bro same with my friend gc
I fw this one so heavy
Gotta gatekeep them tho
to use at the perfect time
i know at least 5 who interviewed w citadel, 5 w jane street, and at least 4 who got IMC offer for SWE not including QT at UMD, so ur just wrong.
there’s also a couple dudes who interviewed for optiver SWE and 1 got offer
not everyone updates their LinkedIn so u can’t cope and say UMD is the reason ur not getting interviews when u have 3YOE😭
also if ur 3 years out of UMD i promise u do not know everyone at UMD getting quant procs by looking at LinkedIn, esp bc that doesn’t take into account people who turn down quant
aint no way bro is saying umd is stopping him from getting quant procs 😹
acc maybe it's ragebait
in which case it was 10/10 successful
Anyone got citadel SWE intern superday advice?
Hey @median gust, sent you a dm
Yes
Heard the industry is pretty small, might have rippling consequences

