What’s ngmi
#quants-n-traders
vivid mortar
REAL
hidden narwhal
Where’s the best food at
neon mirage
Amazon bananas 🤤
near nymph
what a fire logo ong my dream job
it stands for my (T)estosterone expanding in all directions
broken haven
lowkey off white logo
anyone have any advice for quant resume/good quant projects 😓
and do referrals matter a lot
analog stump
😍
tiny sleet
what are the leadership rounds
is that when you interview with the team lead/manager?
spiral garden
anyone know what desco int/process is like for ng swe
round bolt
Can some send the tqd 2.0 discord link🙏
fringe stratus
have you guys ever said yolo and flew to thailand and lived cheaply and work from home the rest of your life
hardy marsh
anyone ever get a voloridge process
or like p72
no ref
fuck this shit god
so tough bro
round bolt
I know someone who got crazy stuff tho
tranquil wagon
@lunar thicket can I get tqd invite
round bolt
How does one get added to the channels
low vault
or like p72
👀
storm igloo
or like p72
Anyone here back from them yet?
neat harbor
anyone hear from bnp paribas quant research/trading
they told me recruiter would be screening resumes weeks ago 😔
tropic patrol
Means u got res screened
hardy marsh
Means u got res screened
where did u hear back from?
like i haven't gotten many processes, i didn't really recruit during my soph year bc of return offer but recently started for fall and next summer and have gotten nothingg maybe its my res, just have no clue. I see so many ppl here getting processes
tropic patrol
Both but last szn
low vault
anyone hear from bnp paribas quant research/trading
Headhunter?
tacit cedar
has anyone interviewed at 3red
i got an interview tmrw and i didnt prep at all
they told me i gotta interview tmrw or cooked
mellow aurora
@lunar thicket of discount pls
neat harbor
Headhunter?
no
lethal apex
Ain’t no way we caring about reputability now
boutta make me rant about rentech again
fresh swallow
Ain’t no way we caring about reputability now
I feel like it's probably important if you're a trader to not be involved with illegal activity (maybe)
If you're a swe tho yeah who gives a shit
Not like you'll be aware of that
pulsar scarab
so how can I get a quant job when I graduated in dec 24 and dont have any offers rn
tardy shell
so how can I get a quant job when I graduated in dec 24 and dont have any offers...
Identity theft
hardy marsh
hows transmarket group
obsidian wraith
I searched them up and I think they pay $25 an hr
lethal apex
how so
Idk it’s some alcohol-fueled tirade about insider trading (*I do not abuse substances during or outside of work hours. All statements made do not represent the views of Trillium Trading and I commit myself to a sober, friendly work environment)
silent nebula
Idk it’s some alcohol-fueled tirade about insider trading (*I do not abuse subst...
Oh type
I mean insider trading is def alpha us brokies cant afford 😔😔
silk smelt
Bare minimum firms looks for when looking at resumes, I believe I have the requirements to break into quant but have nothing to base it off of
fresh swallow
- School
I know a guy who was a math major at umich and got interview at jane with no prior internships
If you go to a bottish school I don't know
neon mirage
I think the hierarchy is
- Exp
2.school - Publications? Maybe role dependent
I feel like if you don’t stand out in any of those you will prob be rej
Thoughts on importance of clubs and your roles in them? I always though to be insignificant but maybe someone can change my mind
neon mirage
Oh yeah you’re right I didn’t even see that
The bare minimum is for you to go to an exceptional school, which is not rlly bare minimum
untold prawn
I think the hierarchy is
1. Exp
2.school
3. Publications? Maybe role dependen...
school prolly above exp ngl, unless that exp is prev quant
silk smelt
Ah yeah I don’t go to a well known cs school let alone known for anything ngl
untold prawn
Ah yeah I don’t go to a well known cs school let alone known for anything ngl
do u have any oly/competition exp
untold prawn
do you have any pubs in top journals?
mellow aurora
@lunar thicket can I have a house
mellow aurora
Fun fact guys Andrew has a private plane
low vault
@lunar thicket can i have tqd invite?
mellow aurora
@lunar thicket can i have tqd invite?
mellow aurora
@lunar thicket at least buy me food when we link up in moscow
Larp again
Holy larping today
mellow aurora
andrew goes on dates...
No he doesn't
zenith panther
so orz....
mellow aurora
He says he has a gf but it's fake
zenith panther
sighbob
mellow aurora
He just goes out to eat by himself and then claims he has a gf
low vault
ay ill see u soon bro
analog stump
whats tqd
dire finch
@lunar thicket can i get a tqd invite too
cedar sparrow
@lunar thicket can i get a tqd invite too
tropic patrol
@lunar thicket can I PLEASE get dqt invite
dense tangle
@lunar thicket can i get tqd invite
fresh swallow
The bare minimum is for you to go to an exceptional school, which is not rlly ba...
I don't think a top 10-20 cs school is "exceptional" tbh
Anyone can do that
My extracurriculars were like JV lacrosse and DECA (no awards) and I was able to get in to mich out of state
analog stump
😂
low vault
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lime zealot
The bare minimum is for you to go to an exceptional school, which is not rlly ba...
not rlly
ive seen mfs at top firms who go to rando schools
analog stump
ive seen mfs at top firms who go to rando schools
obviously there are few exceptions to everything 😭
but in general, i feel like school plays a pretty big role
neon mirage
I don't think a top 10-20 cs school is "exceptional" tbh
yeah i meant more HYPSM. T10-T20 & no exp probably gets beat by >T20 with good exp. But same may not be for T1-T5
lime zealot
obviously there are few exceptions to everything 😭
I feel like if you worked at a decent tech company (e.g Roblox, meta, etc) in your sophomore year you have a solid shot at most quants
For qswe
analog stump
do those companies not care too much about school
when hiring sophomores?
for trading?
lime zealot
do those companies not care too much about school
I know at least the big three (HRT, JS, Citadel) will give you a chance
analog stump
yo
analog stump
I know at least the big three (HRT, JS, Citadel) will give you a chance
i c
lime zealot
also citadel literally interviews anyone
lime zealot
💀
analog stump
makes sense
lime zealot
lol wait I got rejected by trading even after interning at a competitor quant as swe
analog stump
i c
lime zealot
I think trading is def a lot more pretentious
lime zealot
oh wtf lol
fossil flint
lime zealot
I guess maybe because swe has much higher pass rate
I don’t think that’s true?
I passed swe and never got the chance to interview for trading
huh interesting
I guess I never bothered to ask lol
I mean I don’t wanna be a trader LOL
yeah exactly 😭😭😭
also id much rather be a 70th percentile swe than like a 20th percentile trader
Probably earn the same money but way more stress as a trader
i mean yeah if you are good at job you make money lol
spiral rivet
for QT interviews, how deep do they dive into your resume?
low vault
asjdflajdslkajsdlfk what is this takehome
spiral rivet
joined research group, published paper, but got carried pretty hard so didn't end up learning too much from it
rugged rampart
Is it me or does this channel have the same discussions over and over again 😭
lilac thunder
how good is snow in res for quant res screens
lapis plover
bad
austere heath
fresh swallow
I feel like if you worked at a decent tech company (e.g Roblox, meta, etc) in yo...
This is like 10x harder than going to a good school
At least it was in my experience
pulsar scarab
how do I build a c++ low latency system so I can get that lucrative quant swe job. I asked chatgpt and it was useless
low vault
This is like 10x harder than going to a good school
roblox meta etc.
HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES CANADA CO. LTD.
pulsar scarab
I feel like if you worked at a decent tech company (e.g Roblox, meta, etc) in yo...
bro my sophomore year I did not even know what software engineering was, I wanted to be an astrophysicist T_T
fresh swallow
I applied to like every company at career fair freshman and sophomore year, went to a good school and got like 3 interviews: local furniture store, Steelcase (furniture company), defense contractor
low vault
how do I build a c++ low latency system so I can get that lucrative quant swe jo...
have you tried #pragma GCC target ("avx2")
#pragma GCC optimize ("O3")
#pragma GCC optimize ("unroll-loops")
pulsar scarab
I applied to like every company at career fair freshman and sophomore year, went...
is it a t10 school
low vault
jk
pulsar scarab
cuz all my school got at the fair are defense companies that dont hire intl
pulsar scarab
have you tried #pragma GCC target ("avx2")
#pragma GCC optimize ("O3")
#pragma G...
I cant tell if this is a spam or not
low vault
im joking
if u want a legit answer: you don't. It's better to get relevant/related experience in adjacent fields so that you can intern at a firm
fresh swallow
is it a t10 school
Umich idk i think 10-15
pulsar scarab
Umich idk i think 10-15
the number of cracked people I met at umich is insane
crazy is my girlfriend from high school actually goes there for grad school now. small world
(I am intl)
doesnt wolverine trading exclusively hires from umich
timber swift
slender bridge
问一下，哪里可以找到中国人的频道？
heavy escarp
mellow aurora
Eat one Dorito per day should do it
midnight scroll
For swe at least they said no
hardy marsh
shoutout bala-cynwad 😍
sleek smelt
when do they send out sig oas?
remote sandal
tardy shell
Did quant ng open yet?
low vault
untold prawn
congrats on hog rider trading
cedar sparrow
congrats on trillium trading
native pumice
Does anyone have interview experience with DE Shaw? I have a screen coming up soon
tardy shell
Does anyone have interview experience with DE Shaw? I have a screen coming up so...
Are you at OpenAI rn?
I think Ik you
native pumice
No, im at faang
native pumice
I’m not quite sure how he came to the conclusion that I’m at OpenAI or that he thinks he knows me
supple sun
Maybe he knows a ryan at openai who's in the de shaw process 
native pumice
In order to be in the DE Shaw process you must be named Ryan and work at OpenAI
mellow aurora
Announce my balls
zenith panther
hell nah
lapis plover
least obvious ethan alt
tropic patrol
least obvious ethan alt
😭😭😭
spiral rivet
for QT resume should I include 3.4 GPA? i heard if you leave off people will assume its < 3
quaint vessel
anyone interview at citadel EQR/GQS for QD?
barren robin
Anyone done bw ie interview?
wanton idol
has anyone interviewed for maven quant roles?
tacit cedar
Has anyone interviewed with aqr are they good 🧐
mellow aurora
Has anyone interviewed with aqr are they good 🧐
@poisson
low vault
has anyone interviewed with your mom
cedar sparrow
Has anyone interviewed with aqr are they good 🧐
'are they good'
lime zealot
anyone interview at citadel EQR/GQS for QD?
I interviewed at both
lethal apex
Zaox single handedly reduced citadel larps to a manageable level
tacit cedar
'are they good'
whats confusing bruv
native pumice
Anyone done bw ie interview?
yeah for summer 25 tho
id suggest reading glassdoor to get a better feel for what they throw at you
or blind even
clever cloak
!ban @tranquil harness gambling promo
low vault
I interviewed at both
n man says he hates quant
low vault
yeah i think so
low vault
i interviewed with all of the teams at citadel
quaint vessel
I interviewed at both
could I dm!
zenith panther
i interviewed with all of the teams at citadel
orz...
tropic patrol
Voloridge reject nooooo
tropic patrol
I sit in focus room
fresh swallow
You do ?
For what reason
People saying this never makes any sense to me lol
Like your manager is gonna wonder what this random meeting you have is, you're gonna be on the company wifi, you'd have to bring your personal laptop in
I guess
I've never once gone into a meeting room solo in 2+ years of being employed as a swe
low vault
Hahaha u got baited
I’ve never actually interviewed with a specific team
I had ETE final and they no showed twice before head counting me, and I withdrew when they moved me to post trade
dense tangle
@lunar thicket can I get tqd invite
mellow aurora
@lunar thicket can I have a turn on your Epstein island knockoff
(this is not a joke(
civic plume
Does anyone have interview experience with DE Shaw? I have a screen coming up so...
what is the subdomain? I am in negotiations right now its made of three rounds.
zenith panther
I had ETE final and they no showed twice before head counting me, and I withdrew...
orzz
quasi orbit
tier list of citadel teams?
recruiting eng is at the top
lethal apex
Like your manager is gonna wonder what this random meeting you have is, you're g...
Blink twice if you need help
zenith panther
tier list of citadel teams?
- GQS 2. ETE 3. IDK
GQS also sacrifices enjoyment of life tho
low vault
1. GQS 2. ETE 3. IDK
wait what about EQR
ngl im kinda rethinking like why does trading wlb has to be that bad lol
i feel like it really doesn't have to be
zenith panther
ngl im kinda rethinking like why does trading wlb has to be that bad lol
from what im seeing jump has p good wlb
but i have no idea yet
also didnt shaw have good wlb?
zenith panther
wait what about EQR
idk anything abt em tbh
idk anything abt citadel tbh 💀💀💀
i just know post trade is pain
as an intern especially
low vault
from what im seeing jump has p good wlb
ah hmm
maybe it's just cit and like headlands LOL
low vault
also didnt shaw have good wlb?
yeah shaw was good wlb
but i feel like ppl generally have the sentiment online that u need to be putting in omega hours for a trading firm paycheck but idt that's really true
low vault
idk anything abt citadel tbh 💀💀💀
so true 😭
low vault
i just know post trade is pain
good thing i didn't take the EM round then LOL
i just figured that it didn't sound super interesting
so id rather just work for a more chill firm for some less pay but a lot more free time
for fall at least
zenith panther
<:monkaS:838585490696962109>
they pit u against the other interns
zenith panther
so id rather just work for a more chill firm for some less pay but a lot more fr...
yeah fiar
u arrived in chi right?
low vault
they pit u against the other interns
how tf is that possible
for fucking post trade
like ur literally
the fucking
back office
zenith panther
how tf is that possible
citadel culture
ig
but yeah, they told the interns ahead of time there are x of u and only y spots or smth
neon mirage
but yeah, they told the interns ahead of time there are x of u and only y spots ...
I honestly respect the transparency on this
zenith panther
yeah
i just heard some doomer-ing from the PTE ppl
and PCG
ETE ppl had it p chill in comparison
i think EQR interns had a really fun time too
yup
GQS 90 hr week is supposedly somewhat true
💀
pain...
i heard one time an interns project was p cool
and ken took special interest
so they had to work a fuck ton 💀
yeah
gqs is the algo trading arm of cit
low vault
they pit u against the other interns
wtfff????
that is so scuffed
"yeah man i can reconcile the trades faster than u 
"
low vault
but yeah, they told the interns ahead of time there are x of u and only y spots ...
stack rank 😭 icic. Good to see that some other teams are better o.o
low vault
first week starts this konday
o shit damnnnnn
wait did u visit on friday :o
yaaaaaa 👀
wait wya rn 👀
zenith panther
wait did u visit on friday :o
yup!
low vault
ye
i think we're all pre close tbh :p
seems like you guys are a bit further north/west(?)
zenith panther
i cant acc bball i tore my acl 😭
zenith panther
we ball (in my imagination)
quasi orbit
im looking for an intern to replace me on optimus systems for fall (c++), lmk if u are a good fit and i will refer u
lethal apex
Ts how I imagine some of the grindier firms to be
lethal apex
we still impressed by perma interns
😔
need to leave ts in 2024
Same with the linkedin posts about getting rejected by a company
I was ghosted after the Google OA, here’s what this taught me about B2B sales
Lmfao they all sound the same
And all say “linkedin is an echo chamber”
Let’s get serious 🤓
low vault
LOL
It’s the Great Lakes
If u keep scrolling up
I got applied first time
*spooked
zenith panther
we still impressed by perma interns
cc: yams
chilly echo
wraith wolf
bro i'm actually about to pull the trigger on tickets for October
it's either that or nepal
how is it?
low citrus
dense tangle
this is not an intern bro
zenith panther
overkill
u only need 1200
yeah
idt cf is very relevant to the interview
the algo questions are really easy
idk
its not that hard
just learn things and talk abt it in the interview
uh
ig yeah
jump
but its not rly a hard hard
uhh
just pay attention in class
and know basic systems ig
its not rly that different
cloud pebble
Has anyone been through De Shaw swe process before?
neon mirage
Bros bumping the most recently sent msg in the channel
devout sparrow
? if youre 1800 cf you shouldnt struggle w almost any technical interview thats LC style
big bro pls put lil bro (me) on and lmk what ostep is
lilac thunder
Hey, wanted to ask, im a rising junior and debating between 2 fall offers rn would love yall advice https://discord.com/channels/698366411864670250/1383232544383701091
I want to go into ai/ml field but i dont want cohere to stop me from getting quant processes which snow might get me - this is my main issue right now
fresh swallow
When I was a new grad I thought trading firm questions were easier
Or more straightforward at least
Like k sliding window and explain to me how this data structure is implemented is a lot easier than here's a graph problem where you have to have memorized some obscure algorithm
devout sparrow
I read ts wrong then I might have candy mb
big bro pls put me on
pls stop flirting w me
im really into it
:3
devout sparrow
Work is too hard
bro you know how hard it is
to go in late and leave early every day
I am borderline doing 5 hour days and I am SO stressed because its cutting into my league time
low vault
I am borderline doing 5 hour days and I am SO stressed because its cutting into ...
bro ur talking to the literal ngmi
devout sparrow
bro ur talking to the literal ngmi
arent you some fucking citsec hrt guy man? you are NOT one of us
guy 99th percentile pton kid talking like he belond w the ngmis
girl why are they abusing you... that should be two week vaca
low vault
arent you some fucking citsec hrt guy man? you are NOT one of us
i have not worked for either of those commpanies 😌
devout sparrow
i have not worked for either of those commpanies 😌
I would tell you to drop redacted resume
but if I saw it i would take my life
is this actually res LMAO
wait did you have to manually go and bar everything?
bro committed to the bit
low vault
🙂
no this is latex LOL
i just spammed the apple redact tool
wait wha
it's still the same format LOL
i abused search
ye
seems like they're still here but prob inactive
i rmb some other ppl said they were really good
and i think so too
wait thats crazy
holy orz
devout sparrow
@woven moat yo where the res review cuh, @low vault vouched for you and said you do ts for the freeskis!
yo everyone and anyone in this discord feel free to ping the homie if you need the review!
@neon dragon bro for all the opsec ur doing you better be triple cit or sum shit
low vault
<@660286483453706274> yo where the res review cuh, <@181462351231320064> vouched...
jesus fucking christ this is why we can't have nice things
devout sparrow
jesus fucking christ this is why we can't have nice things
bro I cant ask for a resume review?
stop gatekeeping big bro
lilac thunder
Do quant recruiters know about cohere?
autumn shoal
i'm cooked
tropic patrol
Anyone else get the 5r invite only reception thing for July?
@sour pilot r u gonna be there lol
@low vault
ocean bloom
anyone got interview invite from Melvin capital?
mellow aurora
Love to see it
low vault
Yeah apparently
low vault
It’s okay the loo people just go to Jane Street instead
No worry
They interview a lot of people I no general
*in
Numbers?
mellow aurora
Waterloo mfs when they actually have to go to class instead of getting gifted jobs
low vault
mellow aurora
I'm not even a cs major
fresh swallow
Every waterloo kid I worked with was smart asf
I assume you're talking masters and not undergrad
low vault
personally i consider myself a ✅ waterloo kid and ✅ very smart (citation needed) so clearly the above slander about my pedigree is ❌ incorrect
tropic patrol
Dude is this even for ng??? Not sure why I was reached out to if not
Bruv why did they schedule it so far out
Like i thought shit would be like next week loool
End of July
mellow aurora
@lunar thicket Chlamydia.
analog stump
i'm cooked
!!!
tropic patrol
Bruh I didn’t get jump dinner
terse barn
tropic patrol
I NEED jump dinner
low vault
The only event I went to was de Shaw connect lol
Actually nvm
I did go to some other stuff
😔 Mfw born can*dian
coarse yew
i also never been to any of these gg
civic plume
is it common to get LC hard and they want the optimal solution lol
I feel like asking LC hard is just gatekeeping 🤣 unless you cheat you cant figure it out
stuck anvil
I feel like asking LC hard is just gatekeeping 🤣 unless you cheat you cant fig...
There's a lot of LC hards that are definitely figure-outable
like the bar is higher sure
I agree that the vast majority of candidates who pass are probably cheating though, the company probably wants stage x to screen 50% of candidates, and just raised the difficulty until that happened
zenith panther
I feel like asking LC hard is just gatekeeping 🤣 unless you cheat you cant fig...
more leetcode is necessary
civic plume
There's a lot of LC hards that are definitely figure-outable
hum, i would say not really, like yh no way was I going to figure it out and code it in 20 min.
or anyone for that matter.
pretty convinced the dude was being pricky
stuck anvil
There are some cracked ass people out there, and ppl who just memorise the top 100 hards.
You're probably right that he was being a prick tho, very easy for interviewers to power trip
civic plume
i had a suboptimal solution so lets see
civic plume
There are some cracked ass people out there, and ppl who just memorise the top 1...
what would you classify as cracked?
stuck anvil
In the context of DSA problems, there are quite a few people who compete at the collegiate level
civic plume
i did
stuck anvil
There are a lot of problem on things like ICPC that are harder than the avg LC hard
civic plume
i did competitve programing back in undergrad, this was not your average lc hard
stuck anvil
Yeah if it's some really insane LC hard then that's a different story
I'm more thinking of stuff like "Trapping Rain Water" or whatever where it's "Hard" on LC but not really all that difficult
low vault
Yeah if it's some really insane LC hard then that's a different story
Tbh “insane” LC hard usually means like someone wrote a shitty data structures problem
There was some weird tree problem a few contests ago where you could either do casework or just slap a virtual tree on the problem and count the number of edges
stuck anvil
Yeah ones where it's just "use this data structure that isn't common" are a bit stupid
Not really testing anything interesting
iron sage
What do you count as not common
stuck anvil
Anything less common than like, an interval tree
https://codeforces.com/blog/entry/126310 I really like this forum post
low vault
https://codeforces.com/blog/entry/126310 I really like this forum post
mfw not good enough at math
stuck anvil
Like a lot of project Euler is just dumb shit where you have to use some Icelandic guy's bachelor's thesis formula
civic plume
I am not sure how does the pass rate be if you don't give optimal solution. at google a suboptimal one would let you pass.
if you explained things well
stuck anvil
Depends on the company and competition I think
civic plume
soo fingers crossed
stuck anvil
Like if it's as hard as you say hopefully they're just trying to push you and see how you think
low vault
is it common to get LC hard and they want the optimal solution lol
Uh what’s the problem. I think without knowing the problem you cah’t really take a stab at the difficulty of it/what is reasonable.
Jesus fuck the rain today
I was gonna walk around but ill prob just high tail it back home
twin iris
u mean me?
harsh vortex
does anyone joined wallstreet quant bootcamp?
tropic patrol
You are so ngmi
(I got walleye reject)
No
Im ngmi i guess
Gg
I saw other mofos here got the OA
pulsar scarab
apparently jane street and cubist have hired 0 people from my school ever
no chance for me right
and what's SIG's obsession with drexel
I would if they ever interviewed me
lethal apex
and what's SIG's obsession with drexel
Prob a director or sm went there
pulsar scarab
does SIG do referrals? I know someone who works there but idk if they do it for new grads
tropic patrol
apparently jane street and cubist have hired 0 people from my school ever
no cha...
Cubist is legit only ivy bruh
pulsar scarab
Cubist is legit only ivy bruh
isnt that most of them
what does it mean when someone's linkedin says
"garden leave"?
tropic patrol
what does it mean when someone's linkedin says
"garden leave"?
Non compete
pulsar scarab
I’m one of 10 total ever hired from my school 💀
bro that is 10 more than mine
tropic patrol
U would have to check lol
tropic patrol
bro that is 10 more than mine
Shoulda done more in hs ig
pulsar scarab
Shoulda done more in hs ig
na shouldve done more in undergrad
pulsar scarab
posted in tqd but tryna see if anyone here wanna critique my resume #1385381378115375214 message
I get no interviews basically T_T
devout sparrow
sig employees from drexel are not actual quants lmao, theyre like support engineers and sometimes regular swes
@pulsar scarab how you do 6 years of schools and no internships you bot
hardy marsh
just broke my head over QR walleye OA
Im too young for ts
kaggle type questions on the OA
pulsar scarab
<@535867884711444491> how you do 6 years of schools and no internships you bot
so my first internship got cancelled due to covid. Then I couldnt apply for internship cuz the US govt has a law that u gotta be in school for atleast a year before u can work on CPT (I transferred) and by the time I could intern, I was already a senior and looked for full time. Then for grad school, I applied for internship last summer but didnt get it cuz market just sucks. And now I am looking for full time
Before u call someone a bot, do consider situation from their end, no one tries to suck, sometimes the situation one finds themselves in does.
pulsar scarab
u and me both
pulsar scarab
have u shared on the server where u work before? I forget
is it qr tho in nyc?
or qt
pulsar scarab
same
mellow aurora
is it qr tho in nyc?
It's qr in Singapore but on the weekends he has to work from mainland China
hardy marsh
uh oh why
i think im just completly out of my depth
need more kaggle practice clearly
lethal apex
It's qr in Singapore but on the weekends he has to work from mainland China
Mandarin lessons finally paying off for me 🔥🔥
patent steeple
Is there a list of all the quant days for sophomores
lime zealot
Cubist is legit only ivy bruh
it's just the new york ivies..?
lime zealot
apparently jane street and cubist have hired 0 people from my school ever
no cha...
can't speak on cubist but js really wants to hire more people outside of the usual small set
you did great bro don't say that
tropic patrol
it's just the new york ivies..?
Proximity bias ig?
Cubist only hires for central times, PMs can hire whoever
low vault
Wait Chicago is actually really nice
Also damn y’all interviewing for walleye already :p
I just realized for intern 2026 tho right
pulsar scarab
can't speak on cubist but js really wants to hire more people outside of the usu...
They're gonna hire swe ng this year or gonna just get the interns to convert ?
hardy marsh
sig disc day in bala 😍
hardy marsh
Ur so gmi
bro i wish 💔 , i dont even want the quantic roles that badddd, i want to just work w the firm
oblique smelt
If anyone wants referral for 5r reception lmk
oblique smelt
U can refer for this??
Yes
oblique smelt
Do yk if the reception is worth going to
Yes because u get to meet me
oblique smelt
I was 16 back then
or even 15?
*17 but ngl doesn't really help being young
I just did nothing last summer because i legally couldn't intern and now I'm unc
lethal apex
Knew my crud skills would come in handy
late root
Does getting a reach out allow you to go to interview and skip oa
untold prawn
If anyone wants referral for 5r reception lmk
is this out?
hardy marsh
is this out?
^^^
fresh swallow
Does getting a reach out allow you to go to interview and skip oa
Sometimes
fresh swallow
If anyone wants referral for 5r reception lmk
Like a receptionist job?
Yeah refer my girlfriend
oblique smelt
Yeah refer my girlfriend
No bro what it's a welcome reception hosted by 5r
fresh swallow
Oh lmao
wispy leaf
@lunar thicket was walleye OA j python
low vault
But I’m graduating 🤔
hardy marsh
No bro what it's a welcome reception hosted by 5r
can i get ref hahaaaa
hardy marsh
<@710248684805161110> was walleye OA j python
yes
oblique smelt
can i get ref hahaaaa
yes dm
midnight verge
FYI this man has actively censored the Roy tapes, truly no morals
untold prawn
oblique smelt
Yeah
gentle torrent
Js swe interview round 1 on monday, plz advice
Also hows xtx swe if anyone know? Do they pay on par with us tech
low vault
Also hows xtx swe if anyone know? Do they pay on par with us tech
isn't XTX one of the best
gentle torrent
isn't XTX one of the best
For quant yea, idt for swe
low vault
For quant yea, idt for swe
oh
tbh i think best for swe is gonna be an hft prolly
like at least experience wise
but js has some of the best benefits you can have
gentle torrent
Yea i heard js swe culture is very good, very low turnover
Unless u wanna be next sbf
low vault
LOL
tbh i gotta start lining up my ducks for ng at some point
why do quant firms recruit so early
i wanna focus on my internship first 
gentle torrent
At least be glad ur not in ib and have to interview 2 years in advance 🥴
low vault
i think im just hoping that i can interview in sept and that it won't close any doors, and crack like js ng or smth. I don't have a read on how hard their ng is compared to intern though (and also just generally)
or RO
that would be great 🙂
low vault
i think im just hoping that i can interview in sept and that it won't close any ...
one of my friends told me that ng recruiting is about the same as intern recruiting for quant, but much harder for tech, since tech interviews are usually pretty chill for intern
ive heard of tech interviews for experienced hires though and they're so bad
like a full day panel interview type shit
it's insane
gentle torrent
ive heard of tech interviews for experienced hires though and they're so bad
ok shit im cooked
yea only recently iirc
gentle torrent
like a full day panel interview type shit
well tbf theyre flying you out to nyc
low vault
well tbf theyre flying you out to nyc
oh i mean for like
tech companies
like my mentor at nvidia had to do a whole ass panel interview to get his job (he was a direct mid/sr(?) eng hire)
lethal apex
like my mentor at nvidia had to do a whole ass panel interview to get his job (h...
Senior Linux/Networking Engineer interviews might be the worst thing on Earth
mainly because the interviews are so out-of-scope from what you actually will be doing
most seniors just run chron jobs and bash scripts meanwhile the interviews are like “debug an AI-first cisco router in the dark”
lethal apex
hardy marsh
andrew how is a reg QR job, u kind of implied it was insanely hard is this true
dire finch
he paints his nails with his manager daily
hot mica
Why do so many guys get fired then?
hot mica
Do you really think the guys that get cut somehow cheated when most qr late stage interviews are onsites? Rofl
You do realize any serious firm has llms enabled for work use right?
oblique smelt
Bro what
oblique smelt
Hope u guys are joking
tardy shell
Is this the secret to your sauce
zenith panther
???
idt it's the number of dimensions that makes DP harder as you get to harder problems
tropic patrol
will never find DP trivial 💔
Dp is trivial
Just find recurrence relation and it’s cake walk
low vault
Dp is trivial
tropic patrol
[Hard dp problem](https://oj.uz/problem/view/IOI16_aliens)
Dude I’m NOT talking about competitive shit
LMAO
I meant in STANDARD interviews lol
low vault
I meant in STANDARD interviews lol
I’m rly sorry I couldn’t stop myself 😔
I’m cooked
I’m extremely shotpost rn
low vault
I still haven’t solved it LOL
I feel like everyone focuses on the trick but i dont even know how to get 60 😭
fiery pawn
yeah the dp itself is non trivial
this is an easier Alien trick problem imo https://open.kattis.com/problems/blazingnewtrails
low vault
Uh oh time to get nerdsniped
I recall there was like a EDU round F or G that was also aliens trick some years ago
But i dont think it was intended :P
fiery pawn
yea it was edu round 79F https://codeforces.com/problemset/problem/1279/F
and it was the intended solution
low vault
and it was the intended solution
Wait
R u not having issues accessing cf rn
Everything 404s for me
fiery pawn
yeah its been intermittently down for the last couple days, I was able to access it rn on my like 10th try
ever since round 1033 happened…
granite bough
cf rating might be doomed
low vault
yeah its been intermittently down for the last couple days, I was able to access...
Doooooooom
The more the better
😳
The qns prob end at like 1800 or lower
But like more rating means more speed/accuracy
And if ur good enough u can do some QR/QT problems too without any prep
Like I think to reach X rating on CF u need to be good enough at math
Tf they cooking
I haven’t been given anything super hard from cit but shrugs
LOL
I’ve never gotten anything too bad
But idk if I rly want to work for cit tbh
I like wlb
We should stop rating firms by TC
And start rating by WLB
#1 is 2 sugma
😳 😳 😳
Poach me harder daddy
Wait what offices r u guys
HHHHHHH
Boston is kinda doable hmm
I feel like Boston is like == Chicago maybe
But also I like Chicago
Will do when I get around to the FT grind
Ty doooooood 
Lmk if they’re starting to fill up LOL (hopefully I don’t miss the wave 
)
Oh I seee
So it’s just basically no timeline then huh 👀
Oh okay hmm
I’ve been thinking
Maybe it’d be good to start a process before the end of the summer tbh
Like it would take some pressure off if I have a solid offer on the table
😳
I think Andrew is just mentally insane
Yeah that’s really solid :p
Ur getting mad respect from them though
first Waterloo hire
Wait
Ur at
Uhhh
Wait I thought you were at five rings am I dumb
OH
Yall live right beside the Chicago sign right
Wait wtf
Well the Chicago interns do :^)
Lemme find a pic
Nah I got some friends there :p
Ur company’s housing but other office LOL
📐 firm
That photo is nice tho
Ur logo is so much aura
😭 😭 😭 😭
Mans on the 11pm grind
Do u have multiple projects or just one
I feel like having multiple and being able to sw between is rly good
JFC ur project is bonkers
I get why ur working till midnight now LOL
hardy marsh
u nerdddddddd
low vault
as a C++ dev im all but obligated to reply with "rewrite in C++"
find a solution that doesn't use C++
rewrite the entire core library (already in C++, the best language) to include your feature, and use that instead of the old one
late root
Does it usually take a while for recruiters to respond after reachout
neon mirage
Does it usually take a while for recruiters to respond after reachout
Define a while, like a couple days? Couple weeks?
late root
Define a while, like a couple days? Couple weeks?
Few days
dire finch
if they're into u they wont ghost u like that
late root
Ok yeah maybe i should stop tweaking
neon mirage
1-2 days is prob fine
neon mirage
if they're into u they wont ghost u like that
They just playing hard to get
late root
Lol its cause they asked me for my availability for this week and i gave them tmrw so
dire finch
u fucked up
late root
Wait why 😭
late root
u fucked up
Explain pls did i actually
late root
What does that mean 😭
dire finch
bossman u do not get to pull 1 day deadlines on the company
unless u are the second coming of christ
like are u fr lmao
late root
bossman u do not get to pull 1 day deadlines on the company
Ahh
Ok yeah fair
Too excited man thats on me
dire finch
the water related one
no the other water related one
no the other water related one
no the other water related one
darn
late root
Mb 😔😔😔
low vault
the water related one
{ aquatic, bridgewater, akuna }
I guess walleye could too since they look like a fish
dire finch
\cup { hrt, flow, sig, w*lleye, etc }
low vault
I like my j*b tho 😳
low vault
Wait I thought JS food was good
tardy shell
<@968981845846929513> Smh bricked up at work
Ong always
dire finch
What’s corepower elite vs regular
the letters
dire finch
whichever place gets me better food tbh
i don't really care
stripping gets me pretty good food alr so it's only up from here
untold prawn
What’s corepower elite vs regular
elite has almost 2x the protein
untold prawn
stripping gets me pretty good food alr so it's only up from here
do u get 3 free meals?
dire finch
only sf office has dinner but i always leave at 5 (and they serve at 6)
untold prawn
ah ic
highkey the move for when companies do that is like dip at 4 go to gym then come back get dinner then dip again
dire finch
kinda true
zenith panther
drw and cit supposedly got free corepower elites 🙏
cit only has it inside the gym
core power elites that is
they have regular in the kitchens
low vault
elite has almost 2x the protein
How much protein do u need a day anyway
Regular is like 25g already
low vault
stripping gets me pretty good food alr so it's only up from here
Based up the orz
untold prawn
How much protein do u need a day anyway
if ur lifting recommended is 1g/lb of body weight
low vault
if ur lifting recommended is 1g/lb of body weight
Oh I see
Makes sense then
I don’t lift 
low vault
I did a 10-7 td
Waw view is nice
I also decorated my badge
Yeah ppl arrive at times all over the place
The other interns arrived at 9 I think
Nah
Housing :p
They have a top floor thing
hardy marsh
I also decorated my badge
hows working at kastle
zenith panther
u at cit?
fresh swallow
I guess walleye could too since they look like a fish
"Look like" ?
A walleye literally is a fish
I did 8:30-5:30 today, prolly the longest day I've ever worked
zenith panther
A walleye literally is a fish
walleye 🙂↕️
tf
why they working u so bad then
low vault
I did 8:30-5:30 today, prolly the longest day I've ever worked
holy moly the wlb
it's my personal penthouse 😎
jk it's shared lOL
summer course? 😳
oh
ohhhhh
yall qts
crimson crystal
tropic patrol
I was today years old when I learned u need certifications to trade
So wtf do qt interns do
low vault
Heard a lot of devs go to QR
i wouldn't leave it off the table, but Im not targeting it atm
I think im a much stronger dev than research + more pivot options if i wanna do smth else + i enjoy coding so I don't think it's at the top of my list
r u gonna try pivoting?
low vault
i feel like qr is lowk too specialized for me to rly go for it that much
like i think keeping possibilities open esp when ur young is nice
im actually not sure where i found it from...
maybe one of the blob emoji servers? not sure
oh
meowmoji is the original
ASKFJDKFJDSKF
hardy marsh
LMAFOOOOO GOD
ocean widget
When does SIG release their 2026 new grad applications for their quant trading positions for undergrads (USA)?
devout sparrow
@lunar thicket since im mid way thru internship do I just add what ive done or leave it as incoming
my project is two pieces, scope out the more impressive part fully or scope both?
zenith panther
orzz
low vault
Radix
wait are you being serious
my bad
because Radix Trading LLC is a great company to work at, not that I would have any personal experience with them
yeah they have an office in chicago
not atm but maybe i can catch some people on the street
gonna go people watch now
new game idea
take the red line southbound
first one to leave the train loses
😳
take the ttc from scarborough to vaughn and last one to throw up wins!!
jk i cant dis s toronto that hard
toronto
SO TRUE
Truly a Canada moment
dire finch
weal wadix twading
analog cipher
because Radix Trading LLC is a great company to work at, not that I would have a...
Alr did wasn’t prestigious enough
hardy marsh
because Radix Trading LLC is a great company to work at, not that I would have a...
radix c++ dev okay
low vault
weal wadix twading
🥺
low vault
Alr did wasn’t prestigious enough
damn im doomed up the crudorz
low vault
jane st liked me until i told them that i wanted to be a non comparison based sorting algorithm :'(
winged aurora
anybody knows how is it like working as a c++ swe at tower research for crypto markets? would love to find out more about the work, culture, wlb etc
oblique smelt
3k daily is what I tip the guy who brings me breakfast
Broke ahh
I feel bad for you so if you want to level up your career you can bring me breakfast and I'll tip you 4k
tropic patrol
Anyone know if manifold is NGMI
pastel canopy
jane st liked me until i told them that i wanted to be a non comparison based so...
kastlesystems LLC on top
fresh swallow
anybody knows how is it like working as a c++ swe at tower research for crypto m...
Don't know much about the crypto team but tower is pretty chill
25 days PTO
low vault
kastlesystems LLC on top
😍 SO TRUE
winged aurora
Don't know much about the crypto team but tower is pretty chill
yea i saw a mix of these, some say that tower is pretty chill and not cut throat, some say its very intense
low vault
maybe cos multimanager/pod shop
fresh swallow
I remember when I was considering joining I saw a bunch of terrible blind/glassdoor reviews but mostly from india
Yeah it is a bit. Ultimately though you do need people across the globe to be able to provide proper support 24/7 anyway so it makes sense to have some presence elsewhere
Pods are wherever the PM wants them to be, we have at least pod or two in every office I think
low vault
Omg just like DE Shaw
Twinninggggg
I heard they have a personal butler our something in the India office though
Yeah probably
But it’s still kinda funny
low vault
SIN
GA
POREEEEEEEEEEE
They should make wolf of Wall Street but it’s all just in Singapore instead
China AQ also not that good
Though many improvements
tropic patrol
So no urban city in the United States as well
There’s trash lining 95% of manhattan
Monkey take ngl
Boston is a small city comparatively
680k
you can’t compare Boston to any major Indian city because of pop density and other factors
empty hinge
cuz its cheaper? america is getting too expensive to live in
marble hemlock
US for work, Europe for chilling and retirement
tardy shell
Beijing used to have horrible AQ in 2010s
It’s nowhere near as bad now
I wonder what they did
untold prawn
ngl if i knew i'd never make over like 250k here i'd save up and leave to a cheaper country
untold prawn
crazy take
idk my friends who go to school there don't like it
i think overall opinion is that it's just decent
tight bear
indore, mysore maybe trivandrum
certainly none of the major cities tho
but thats basically the case in every country since the beginning of time
lime zealot
like delhi mogs or..?
stone drum
Irvine so boring
nah but there’s like even less to do than you think like it’s 0
location peak tho
It’s pretty good Asian food ig
If you’re like settled down with kids then it’s nice yeah
zenith panther
everyone talks abt boring ahh cities
but like wtf is there to do in new york 😭
like the only difference between boring and not boring places seems to be drinking
😭
mfs say a place is boring when theres just less resteraunts and places to drink
red rune
state income tax is filed based on where you work, not where you live
lime zealot
Irvine so boring
if this is the standard then Cupertino has to be the best city in the entire world
to be clear i would agree with this assertion
untold prawn
yeah i agree w this, a lot of the perks of a bigger city but w/ way less tweakers and stuff
also nice beaches
oblique smelt
weight?
oblique smelt
but like wtf is there to do in new york 😭
subway surfing
How does that even work
U eat all the time
cedar sparrow
andrew already had one lmao for ft
he's weighing whether he wants to go or nah
same
dire finch
(the Gay Sex)
untold prawn
yeah the neighbors thing is kinda big like do u really want to be surrounded by 40yo mfs with kids
south bay in a nutshell
untold prawn
every1 lives w/ their parents in the suburbs tho
hardy marsh
hell nahhhh, i just transferred from a school there