quants-n-traders

[tiny sleet]

what i was trying to look into is model implementation

[sand vessel]

Qd != swe

[dire finch]

stare at loss. stare at loss. stare at roc. stare at roc.

[tiny sleet]

can be, torch is just a framework used for ml

[sand vessel]

Very few tho

[tiny sleet]

research engineer?

what would that be like

i think in quant i'm mainly after whatever role involves actually implementing the models

though also considering research, not just for quant but also other fields in ml (mainly computer vision)

oh maybe it's qr that i'm looking into then

so qr doesn't do research the way other kinds of ml researchers do?

i see

[dire finch]

backtesting sources of alpha or2

most qrs are just data scientists

[tiny sleet]

so qrs develop ml algorithms, but they're not novel discoveries

[dire finch]

they don't usually have to develop ml algorithms

[tiny sleet]

well ml is a broad field

[dire finch]

it's more of a... oh i can use xgboost for this

[merry saddle]

Bro QRs just model

[dire finch]

and xgboost is boomer

[tiny sleet]

i don't think i really have a proper understanding to give a proper answer

[merry saddle]

And do DS stuff

[tiny sleet]

yeah

to an extent

[tiny sleet]

i see

[dire finch]

do you consider OLS ml

it's learning orz

[tiny sleet]

i have no clue what ols is

[dire finch]

online least squares

or2

[sand vessel]

Yeah cv not rlly quant

[tiny sleet]

oh ordinary least squares

[merry saddle]

No online

[dire finch]

no online

[merry saddle]

Since we are online

[tiny sleet]

?

[dire finch]

bro does not do machine learning

[tiny sleet]

i mean, i'm just getting into it

[merry saddle]

Bet he doesn't do artificial intelligence either

[dire finch]

it's basically the one-step backpropagate with optimal solution for a square loss on an affine kernel

sounds a lot fancier than it is

[tiny sleet]

i see

[tiny sleet]

nah i know mostly what you mean by that

[dire finch]

you show your least squares one new point and ask it to fit the nicest

^plain english

[tiny sleet]

so it's like backpropagation but only for one layer

[dire finch]

something something bayesian technique goes brr

[tiny sleet]

oh that's what it is

[merry saddle]

Xtx-1xty

[tiny sleet]

(i have no clue what it is)

i just hear bayesian so much

[dire finch]

it's in the family of "update your weights dynamically given new data coming in over time"

[merry saddle]

Yes

[tiny sleet]

don't know anything past the fact that it's a part of probability and is used for naive bayes classifiers

[dire finch]

i might've just realized this im so doomed

[tiny sleet]

i see

[merry saddle]

You get it from the MLE of the objective function

[tiny sleet]

so takes some characteristics of neural networks

[merry saddle]

Or something like that

[dire finch]

no i meant the xtx reference

[merry saddle]

O

Bro does not do quant references

[tiny sleet]

oh this is still a part of linear regression?

damn i think i got lost mid discussion

yeah i mean

i forgot he was talking about ols, i thought he moved onto something else

💀

i'm fried

[merry saddle]

The industry is fast paced

You have to keep up

Beep boop number crunching beep boop

[tiny sleet]

yeah

i gotta lock in

[merry saddle]

I have no clue, I've just seen some of their modeling

What stories

I might

[tranquil wagon]

No, all the people in that channel just enjoy posting that they are looking for a roommate even though they aren’t

[pallid forge]

As far as I know, companies don’t check your transcript

They just see gpa

On your resume

And 3.7 is good 👍

Oh wait

Wrong channel

I didn’t see this was quant channel idk

[vague forge]

^

And it’s easy to just video call or smthng

[tiny sleet]

somewhat valid point, but if someone is gonna be living with someone for an entire school year they're probably gonna do a background check on that person first

and they could probably expect the other person to do the same

[fresh swallow]

Straight up quote from a former president

I believe the one who disbanded their championship level football team

Anyone know how much more/less difficult it is to get a job at an EU based firm as a SWE

With 2+ yoe as an american

[tranquil wagon]

I have same question for UK based firm

[fresh swallow]

Isn't UK pretty fucked

[dire finch]

its been fucked

thank you conservatives

[fresh swallow]

Although I read the other day that the Netherlands is a narco state now so maybe Amsterdam isn't all that much better and seems like that's where most firms are

Whole world kinda cooked

[lethal apex]

Real nothing matters that is why you should hire me

[fresh swallow]

I'm not a manager

[lethal apex]

not with that attitude

[smoky plover]

Where did you read the NL is a narco state? Link pls

[low vault]

TQD

[low vault]

i just like how the face looks

the emoji name doesn't really mean anything

[worn quartz]

has anyone gone thru old mission capital experienced pipeline? recruiter reached out to me then i had phone with the recruiter, then hiring manager then oa. they didn't get back to me since oa

[low vault]

nope

im already in too many servers

needa pare down my server count

amybe i should join when recruiting starts lol, need NG if i dont get return

[ruby ravine]

can someone send me a server invite I wanna lurk

[low vault]

totem of undying 😎 - i think good chance i can get at least the second one 🥺

ultimate safety net would be if JS clutched up on the NG recuriting tho 😩

LOL

honestly

[sand vessel]

NO

[low vault]

I would consider that

[sand vessel]

BLACKBALL THIS GUY

[low vault]

that would be wild

[sand vessel]

Me too lmao

[low vault]

if KT joins TQD I will too

[sand vessel]

No

He’s blackballed

From TQD

[low vault]

tragic

[sand vessel]

Rlly???

Without knowing precalc?

What the fuck

No

Stop changing ur story

This new update gotta be fake

Idgaf

The coastguard shit and top 50 Putnam?

Bro moonglade dmd me and told me KT is stupid

GG

[low vault]

i rly want the 🍵 tho 🥺

this is like

a sitcom

[sand vessel]

Dude you are a FRAUD

you are NOT breaking ANY big tech

Or quant

GG

KT I AM YOUR BIGGEST SUPPORTER

Gg

No

It’s just over bro

Go next

Apply for Hindi tutor

Farsi tutor

You do

You won’t break quant

[low vault]

i love matcha 😋

[sand vessel]

Skill diff

Yes

Study burger flipping

Or plumbing

👍

[low vault]

mans obsessed with quant, but says that it isn't his main goal

i think its clear ur like on the mindset of -- im gonna go 0 to rentec

[sand vessel]

Work at Wendy’s

[tiny sleet]

what has happened to the quant channel

[low vault]

well you don't need to say that you're obsessed with quant to be obsessed with quant

[tiny sleet]

shit has turned into some conspiracy

[low vault]

i think it is something that you demonstrate through your actions

you know about obscure trading firms like radix which is a company that most people who aren't in the industry wouldn't know about

[sand vessel]

FLIP BURGER

[tiny sleet]

yo chill 💀

[low vault]

you joined TQD

[mellow aurora]

And got banned in short order

[low vault]

[tiny sleet]

bro @rose holly you should honestly go for swe or another ml field you find interesting

[low vault]

I know you are like obsessed with quant bcs it makes shitton of money

but like my 2c is that most of the people who succeed in quant are people who are already accomplished professionally or academically, it would be best for you to focus on finding something you're passionate about first, and see where that takes you

[sand vessel]

Bro apply to McDonald’s

Not radix

[mellow aurora]

You have an IQ deficiency

[low vault]

and also stop being so obsessed with like random people on discord lol

no flame to zaox ofc

[sand vessel]

KT bro

I love u but

U need to quit

Like 100%

Zaox can’t save u

[mellow aurora]

No they can't

[sand vessel]

WAIT

[mellow aurora]

You should give up

[sand vessel]

GO ON CODING JESUS LIVE STREAM

HE CSN HELP U

[mellow aurora]

Before you get burned

[sand vessel]

ASK CODING JESUS FOR HELP WITH QUANT

[mellow aurora]

You will end up bitter and burned at the end of it with nothing to show for it

[sand vessel]

He got me quant internship for free

Go to him

Trust

Gg

[mellow aurora]

His girl is actually ugly asf

I can't lie

[sand vessel]

Bro wtf did Aleph tell u

Stop treating this guy like it’s gospel

He BRAIN WASHED you

No

I didn’t go to college

Or high school

He got me internship quant

I’m not

70 IQ

(Still smarter than u ofc”

But still

Your IQ + 40 is good iq

No

Even though you are stupid it’s enough

You are probably around 40-45

[low vault]

hot diggity dog mans actually delulu

KT: My goal is not to get into Quant
Also KT: constantly talks about his 0->Quant pipeline

yeah but

it's still 0->Quant pipeline

man i rly think ur just too wrapped up in this journey

I think you realyl should just focus on

finding your passions

if you like coding, then find what you enjo about it

why quant specifically though?

there's plenty of things that are "impossible" or "difficult"

[ruby ravine]

bro can u send a invite to the server

bruh

[low vault]

I really don't think it's the most impossible thing that you can do

[ruby ravine]

i was in the OG tqd like 5 years ago

[lethal apex]

dropping link to berkeley trading club in 3 hours

[dire arrow]

its easy ngl

[low vault]

there's plenty of smart and talented people that are not in Quant

[dire arrow]

cope

[low vault]

Quant is not the pinnacle of humanity or anything like that

[ruby ravine]

I want to lurk for my own amusement because I’m waiting for my plane at the airport

[lethal apex]

Alright gramps pack it up

[low vault]

I'd argue any competitive CS job is in that same box

One of the smartest people I know chose to stay and go to grad school instead of work at a trading firm

[dire arrow]

cant be that smart then

[ruby ravine]

fwiw i got jump swe, jane trader, and jump qr out of hs

[lethal apex]

only hs?

[ruby ravine]

Hinestly I feel like big tech is harder without education

[lethal apex]

was in middle school when I got my first 5r reachout

[low vault]

mans actually so cracked it's insane

[lethal apex]

Lmfao thought this exact thing

[low vault]

some smart people are just not money driven

[lethal apex]

all I hear is someone born into money

[low vault]

mans not rich bro

was eating ramen every day

[lethal apex]

bro don’t got a fam or sm

[low vault]

i mean internship is enough to cover daily expenses for a while

[lethal apex]

ain’t never catch my son turn down money for his passion 🙏😭

[low vault]

he does have some family expenses he wnated to cover too

but the internship itself is like 90-95k usd -> like 130k cad

[dire arrow]

is this SCS

[lethal apex]

heh..

[dire arrow]

it has to be right

[ruby ravine]

I can’t believe I’m getting gatekept from a discord server

This is a bruh moment

[lethal apex]

p sure scs not indian

[dire arrow]

he fs was I could tell

[low vault]

I think this is enough to cover expensesfor like 2 years if you're frugal

[ruby ravine]

damn

one of yall has to be in it

ain’t no way

@lethal apex ur the type for sure

[low vault]

I personally would rather print money for a few years first

get a nice big ol' safety net

then choose what to do next

mm i mean i like programming a lot

if i didn't i probably wouldn't be in CS

I think it just seems like overall a strong oppourtunity

[ruby ravine]

It better be an invite link

[low vault]

wait no way

mans actually a JS trader

not larping

mutuals

hot diggity dog orz

[ruby ravine]

unfortunately I never made it to js as I reneged them

[low vault]

ORZZZZZZZZZZZZ

wherd u go then

[ruby ravine]

I now larp full time

u guys should try it it’s rly fun

[low vault]

mm i should

:p

unfortunately I am a university student 😔

also a student

[ruby ravine]

context pls

wut did he do exactly

did aleph groom u

[lethal apex]

lmfaoo

[ruby ravine]

were the jokes funny

this is the crux of the argument

were the jokes specifically targeted at one racial group

[sand vessel]

Dude

Ur actually pathetic

Bc all you do is glaze

You’re

[ruby ravine]

I’m on KT side here

[sand vessel]

Aleph isn’t ur friend

No friend lies to someone that badly

If he told u that you have a chance

He is a big liar

[ruby ravine]

I want context so badly it’s crazy

[sand vessel]

No to even try for QR

Don’t backtrack

2 days ago u were saying u were gonna get radix ft

😭

[low vault]

N E E D. T E A.

[sand vessel]

No it’s not

You will never be in the nba no matter how hard you work

Never be the president of the usa

What

[low vault]

he means born in the SUA probably

[ruby ravine]

I think KT can go be a QR if he works hard

[sand vessel]

Stop acting bro

We don’t live in a meritocracy

[low vault]

imagine in like 15 years later KT gets hired as a QR

[ruby ravine]

Why are you like this dude

[low vault]

tbh outside of being way older I don't think there's actually strictly preventing KT from being a QR -- QRs are also hired later in life

[sand vessel]

Yeah and I will be a billionaire

[sand vessel]

Atypically

Just run the bumbers

[ruby ravine]

wait KT r u us based

[sand vessel]

Numbers

How many people make it QR late in career

And of those

[ruby ravine]

I have a shit ton of friends at trading firms

[sand vessel]

Where did they go to college

[ruby ravine]

We can make it happen

[sand vessel]

Where did they go to school

most qt qr qd go to top schools

[low vault]

but I think there's a difference between

[sand vessel]

Be realistic bro

[low vault]

-> cannot become US pres

vs

-> cannot become QR

[sand vessel]

No it really isn’t

[ruby ravine]

I have 2 friends who got jump out of high school / no name school

[sand vessel]

Constitution can be changed

[low vault]

meh I think you can make STEM-my things happen with enough time and effort

[ruby ravine]

Shoot higher than quant tbh

[sand vessel]

You genuinely wouldn’t be in ur position if u went to a t500 school and I can confidently say that

[low vault]

I don't really think there's much point in assuming this guy doesn't have any drive

I know it's really unlikely

[ruby ravine]

Quant is kinda dead end and doesn’t bring value to anyone

[low vault]

but like who cares people can dream and that's fine

[sand vessel]

People can dream

I agree

But people don’t sit in quants n traders 6 hours a day living this weird fantasy

😂

[low vault]

how much time does KT actually spend here

[sand vessel]

ur delusional

[low vault]

tbf i dont think my school is actually that hard to get into

considering what yall americans be doing LOL

I also don't think the idea of KT going to UCB is that unrealistic -> isn't there a way to go CC -> UCB that's much easier than getting in through regular admissions?

Provided, it will realistically require him to grind for the next like 10 years

[sand vessel]

I think there’s <5 quant interns that transferred into UCB

[limpid pulsar]

scs literally went to an indian undergrad

[sand vessel]

Both

[low vault]

well if he fails, then at least he can get a tech job

[sand vessel]

Also UCB is 90k a year

[low vault]

so I actually think some of the reasoning here is pretty valid

[sand vessel]

He’s international

Zero good target school is accessible

[low vault]

would he be applying as an internationally student?

[sand vessel]

Ur also in that space so selection bias

[ruby ravine]

@rose holly can u dm me?

[sand vessel]

Yeah it’s rng to an extent I got de Shaw OA freshman year with a blank resume

[low vault]

like I don't think it's clear how exactly KT even got to the US and is working here legally

for all we know he could be a citizen

[sand vessel]

He’s illegal

[low vault]

wait what

oh yeah you're fucked gg

[sand vessel]

And is a Hindi translator to the coast guard

[low vault]

illegal is joever

[limpid pulsar]

What the fuck

[low vault]

there isn't really much you can do if you're illegal

[sand vessel]

There are definitely ZERO illegals in QR

[low vault]

you'd probably fail background checks even if you passed the interview

[sand vessel]

but working hard = possible right mfs

[low vault]

sorry dude

[mellow aurora]

like me

[low vault]

I heard optiver amsterdam hires from india

GL

[mellow aurora]

wait how the fuck does he work for the coast guard if he's illegal

???

[low vault]

o i didn't know optiver had india office

hot diggity dog

[sand vessel]

Quant India def 1000x harder to crack

[low vault]

fair enough

but that would be the onnly option then

[limpid pulsar]

Dude there was a fucking Tower Research QR who like was illegally crossing into Canada and shot a border security agent or like his girlfriend did lmfao

This was in the news not that long ago

[sand vessel]

Yes

I remember

[low vault]

oh yeah i saw

didn't he also go to UW

that was monkaS

[limpid pulsar]

Yeah idek how u got there

[sand vessel]

Are you illegal

Or was that a lie

[mellow aurora]

wait wasnt there also a

leftist cult or some shi

[limpid pulsar]

Idk

[mellow aurora]

yea there was

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/german-math-genius-get-drawn-cult-accused-coast-coast-killings-rcna189309

[limpid pulsar]

Oh yea

[sand vessel]

@rose holly bro answer

So you are legal?

[limpid pulsar]

Bruh the math question?

@rose holly whats ur name btw i know a group very active in texas that can help u

[sand vessel]

💀💀💀💀

I’m telling ice bro

[low vault]

ayo bro just cos hes delulu doesn't mean he needs to go to el salvador

[limpid pulsar]

its like a group that makes sure u go where ur meant to, where u truly belong, very helpful agency

[low vault]

let man self deport first lol

[sand vessel]

No

[limpid pulsar]

call ICE on illegals who dont sell food

I agree

Coast guard translator, illegal?

[sand vessel]

Realistically what does KT provide our economy except infinite cscd content?

[limpid pulsar]

In the military but isnt allowed in the US?

What is that larp

[sand vessel]

No someone here verified it

[low vault]

infinite cscd content is worth its weight in gold

[limpid pulsar]

How do you verify someones illegal

Video of you jumping the border?

[sand vessel]

2 days ago someone got in a call

[low vault]

but srsly let the man exist ffs

[limpid pulsar]

I was in a call w him a while ago too

[sand vessel]

And they genuinely were sold

[limpid pulsar]

Hes definitely indian

[sand vessel]

NO

[haughty hinge]

ask for a national id or a US visa

[limpid pulsar]

But idk about illegal

[low vault]

why do you hate him so much

[sand vessel]

ur Canada

[limpid pulsar]

Yeah but he claims illegal

[sand vessel]

U won’t get it

[limpid pulsar]

Not legal

So idk

[low vault]

bitchass

[haughty hinge]

then absence of either of them

[low vault]

if anything, Canada has a significantly worse immigration problem than the US

[limpid pulsar]

If you dont show either, you can claim youre illegal

Lol

[low vault]

have you heard of Conestoga College?

[mellow aurora]

this place sucks i want out asap

good news is i can return in like 3 days

[limpid pulsar]

yeah veil u sold by going to canada from US

[low vault]

[limpid pulsar]

good luck in brampton

[haughty hinge]

like send ur passport pages idk. not sure if theres easier way

[low vault]

Canada legal immigration is actually quite strict

we really just need to kill the diploma mill schools

[mellow aurora]

im not in brampton

[low vault]

it's an enforcement issue IMO

[sand vessel]

@rose holly if u tell the truth ill refer u to a QD position

[mellow aurora]

im transfer to community college

[low vault]

wait like the point system LOL

the issue is that

[sand vessel]

But u have to tell the truth today

[low vault]

they let people in on student visa and give them permission to work part time

[limpid pulsar]

toronto music is SO ASS

[sand vessel]

Delete Waterloo

[mellow aurora]

every mf here listens to drake like they're legally required to

[sand vessel]

Just internship stealers

US INTERNSHIPS

[haughty hinge]

lmao

[sand vessel]

WHEN WILL TRUMP HELP

[mellow aurora]

@limpid pulsar should i transfer to uga lmk

[low vault]

mans mad that we beat all of america at icpc

[limpid pulsar]

i saw a tiktok toronto song
its like “stepped in drippin gun on my hip” its so ass

[mellow aurora]

it would be an improvement on my current school

[sand vessel]

I corrupted ur best icpc player

Ur not winning

[limpid pulsar]

toronto accent is baltimore tier

[low vault]

dude mans halfway across the world rn LOL

pre sure hes not on campus atm

[sand vessel]

I intern w him

[low vault]

wait

[limpid pulsar]

china is number 1

[low vault]

holdon

lemme check

LI

[sand vessel]

Dude

I played poker irl w him yesterday

😂

[low vault]

oh

you're talking about

oh

i know who you're talking about lol

[sand vessel]

Yes

[low vault]

i thought you were talking about nevergiveup

[sand vessel]

#1 Canada

Leetcode

[limpid pulsar]

what internship

[low vault]

yk LC rating is kinda meaningless right

[sand vessel]

Cope

[low vault]

mans cracked obv

[lethal apex]

cope

[low vault]

but like

i really don't think you should be citing LC rating for that

[sand vessel]

🫵😂

[low vault]

...

[limpid pulsar]

codeforces and euler mog?

[lethal apex]

your value as a human being is determined by your leetcode rating and codeforces rank

[low vault]

you're really just talking out of your ass now

[sand vessel]

He’s 272 on CF

Owns u lil bro

🫵😂

[limpid pulsar]

snowflake hmm

[low vault]

I mean IDRC

I know he's smart and dedicated

I'm just correcting you lol

[sand vessel]

Why r so angry

Ur like KT rn

[low vault]

Why u so angry

[sand vessel]

Idk

@rose holly why am I mad

[low vault]

well im annoyed because you're talking out of your ass

if you wanted the answer

[sand vessel]

😢

[low vault]

you'll have to ask yourself the question of why you're angry, I don't know the answer unfortunately

[sand vessel]

I know u don’t

#2 for a rzn

😂😂😂😂😂

[low vault]

little does man know im like #987 because of how washed i am

[redacted] actually practices lol

[sand vessel]

😢😢😢

[low vault]

mans on the grind while im losing brain cells every day

like getting to WF is a "goal" for me, but realistically unless if I'm willing to take big change in attitude and get back to the grind, I don't think it's something that will happen

[sand vessel]

Yeah ik it’s not realistic

Good 😊

[low vault]

anyways have fun

and dont get deported KT

[sand vessel]

I think u need to talk a walk and cool down fs

I know the rzn too

It’s kinda fucked up

That’s y he won’t say

[mellow aurora]

no

[sand vessel]

I’ll tell u

[low vault]

bro

[sand vessel]

If u tell me the truth

[mellow aurora]

dont tell him

[low vault]

man changed his name

on god

[mellow aurora]

actually dont

just ignore the kid

he'll self destruct eventually

[sand vessel]

I don’t like you because…..

[mellow aurora]

you do not, insofar that you may never know, and you would be better not to know.

they're not lies, you're just a deluded child

indeed i have

he made an ass of himself and treated my friends with the utmost disrespect

[sand vessel]

I alr filed an ice ticket

💀

It’s not a joke

lol

Never meet your idols kid. #Alpeh #Moonglade # Zaox

[stiff dagger]

you forgot that nav is from toronto

yea thats right.... the goat

[late root]

• the weeknd

[mellow aurora]

I'm sorry this dude is not that great

[fresh swallow]

Saw it on twitter but if you just google it there are multiple results

[fresh swallow]

When I saw this Nav is front of mind

[safe yew]

did you go to college then?

[rotund glacier]

why are you back egoing on cscareers man 😢

[dire finch]

most emotionally secure stem guy

[safe yew]

ngl this feels trollish

since this guy is saying he recruited for all 3 qt qr and swe

out of HS and got them

like it would be a lot more believable if he said he recruited for either swe qr or qt and got them out of HS

[dire finch]

in any case he became immediately unfuckable with that line

irredeemable aura loss

[ruby ravine]

y pot calling kettle black

[safe yew]

how does one manage to recruit for all 3 straight out of HS

top firms at that

@ruby ravine share linkedin

[split lintel]

Ant tree turned down a $650k new grad offer from radix lol

[serene dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/dahliabunni-popcorn-gif-16013905868616718548

[dire finch]

ayo this is just harassment

@lunar thicket no wonder this fucker got b&

[clever cloak]

ya

[dire finch]

hohohoho what h efuck

is this the power of malignant autism

thats why ai alignment is important (autistic individual alignment)

how is this guy not b& like immediately for coppa

[cedar edge]

what is TQD

[safe yew]

good question

what is TQD?

who is TQD?

where is TQD?

[split lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-i-understood-that-reference-look-back-gif-14556485

[stoic wigeon]

yo how did that go for you? Also is it for NG QR? I got reached out on handshake by an aquatic recruiter lmao

[celest anvil]

She reaches out to everyone “incoming quant intern” apparently

[stoic wigeon]

lmao fair

interviewing for QR would be so cooked tho

[celest anvil]

Yeah i heard from my friend they catch a wide net this year since no one passed last year

[stoic wigeon]

esp cuz this summer i prob wont have time to prep for it

[stoic wigeon]

yeah that makes sense

on linkedin they have like 140 employees

of those maybe like 30% are QRs

and most of those are just cracked phds

[celest anvil]

Yeah the most recent only new grad i saw was hrt algo dev + imo medalist

[stoic wigeon]

lmao exactly

[safe yew]

what do they do last year then

just zero intern?

[celest anvil]

Idk maybe

[fresh swallow]

Prolly

[native pumice]

bw intern or ec2 ng ro

[untold prawn]

ec2 is killer ngl if u care ab wlb i wouldn't go there

[native pumice]

+cool line of work (i fw infra)
-oncall

lol i just read blind they all say its hell

[lime zealot]

wtf is ec2

[native pumice]

u must be really smart or really dumb

[lime zealot]

ts unc doesn’t understand abbreviations 🥀

[native pumice]

dawg i didnt rule out the part where hes rly smart

[lime zealot]

nah I’m stupid lmao I literally googled ec2 quant cuz I thought it was a shop

[native pumice]

no this means u are smart

like ec2 for peasants compared to you

[lime zealot]

💀

[lime zealot]

to answer ur question tho

push Amazon ro to fall

And do bw intern post grad

if you want the safest option

[native pumice]

cool

i have neither of these btw

[lime zealot]

😭

[native pumice]

just ec2 intern

and bw process

[lime zealot]

kids these days 👴

[pale crater]

u got bw reachout for 2026?

[grim sigil]

why is ec2 amazon

thats randkm

nvm google is a great tool

[worn quartz]

how long does old mission take to get back after oa

[pale crater]

?? wut

bro how 😭 , i legit was gonna start applying to quant for next cycyle

oh ok

its still investment firm or smth?

oh ok, is it swe?

i c

[fresh swallow]

Mf asking a bunch of guys who work on trading software and expecting us to know abbreviations of cloud shit

???

How would we know what that is

[tranquil wagon]

You mean you don’t know what cosbudizjajzpsmdhdis is

Kinda selling ngl

[lethal apex]

finished reading invincible hbu

real

why tho

This isn’t you.

[lethal apex]

blackhole.jpg

[zenith panther]

🔥

invincible is good

[lethal apex]

Sky is blue ahh message

didn’t watch s3 but I heard it was also good

[zenith panther]

aight

some haters

ig

[lethal apex]

Chill 😂

did u read

[zenith panther]

#stopthewecuhate

[zenith panther]

ya i read the comic

tv show was some fire

so i read the rest

[lethal apex]

watchu think about the ending

[zenith panther]

it's aight

i think it makes sense

wait the ending is just that ||allen no longer needed bcz mark is making the viltrumites do good stuff|| right

i lwky read it all in one session

[native pumice]

cloud acronym

[lethal apex]

Lmfao this is relatable

People start asking me about what I read

As if I didn’t finish it between 1 and 4 am

nahh

? Did u read the comics

we not saying he’s completely useless or that he’s a bad character

Oh go and read the ending ig

😡

Spoiler but ||he ends up dismantling the league of planets or whatever and saying he’s gonna step down||

pretty sure again my memory is hazy

[lethal apex]

u good bro? ||we never said he dies|| 😂

arguing against ghosts

[rose holly]

!process jane street offer

[robust orchid]

ayyy

[worldly palm]

anyone have any advice for someone who wants to do quant swe next summer? How do I start preparing now

[low citrus]

yo if any of yall ever work on any algos lmk be we need to have a serious convo

WHY is my portfolio getting cooked every day at 3:59:59 when someone dumps $3B of SPY

which one of yall are killing my P&L

https://tenor.com/view/confused-white-persian-guardian-why-gif-10371245960573455153

[zenith panther]

leetcode

[lethal apex]

Least obvious squarepoint recruiter

[stoic wigeon]

hey dont leak my alpha

[uncut nexus]

Is de Shaw oa auto?

[carmine fulcrum]

Question for my brother. He is a freshman at MIT and he the only thing he has lined up for next summer is SEO Tech Dev and he is really interested in quant. Any pieces of advice on where he should start

[austere heath]

isn't it late

I know that they do rushing in full spring semester

[carmine fulcrum]

He is in Beta btw shouldve mentioned that

[low vault]

9 morbillion dollars

[lime zealot]

idt ive seen a company offer more than js this year

[hardy marsh]

LMAO

[lethal apex]

Goofy ahh advice idk anyone at mit who isn’t part of a frat but prob biased

For 400k I’ll even write in javascript

rift we don’t disagree im just a d1 javascript hater

what would you pick

neither do I, and apparently they are coding their hardware in ocaml

The potential amount of bugs scare me

there’s a reason the hardware industry takes 3 decades to accept a new paradigm

[lethal apex]

I love the idea that this is all one big inside joke

They actually all code in C++

JS interns/ft just sign an NDA

[tranquil wagon]

If I had a 200k+ offer where I could do c++ I would take it over js

[limpid pulsar]

radix cit tower

[lethal apex]

Someone here mentioned they got a 125/hr Tower ML internship

@tardy shell also claimed citadel qr but disappeared after Zaox interrogated them

so idk 😂

true high-paying internship doesn’t really say anything

🤺Don’t speak bad about optiver

you calculating hourly for ng?

Dyk how optiver swe marbles are determined

so it’s not performance based?

Wasn’t clear, what perf metrics are used for swe

Seems quite difficult

to measure

Obviously I have some idea but can you give examples. Subjective division of marbles seems like a cheat code

Deshaw out here counting lines of code 😂

[brisk ingot]

its just which bucket you're in

^

that gives u a multiple of what the default marble amount is

for your level

[lethal apex]

I’m trying to understand the perf metrics tho. Maybe I’m missing something but how are they determining this at an hft? Is it just manager likes you, they give “exceeds expectations,” and you get X marbles?

I could see tdoe metric being number of tickets solved for example

[dire finch]

it's more of a "you leveled up, cool. your quota goes from 40 to 80 marbles"

you dont get promo'd / marbled up unless u do well anyway

like first year opt swe gets 0 marbles

[lethal apex]

I get this, but again, quota determined by what metric. Just not being fired?

[dire finch]

yeah iirc they're standardized

so swes go 0 to 40 to 80 to 160

[lethal apex]

you a junior at faang let rift type

[dire finch]

traders on a different band etc

[lethal apex]

😭

Not a glaze bro you like the only fulltimer here lmfao

[dire finch]

pookie i know ppl at opt orz

the exact number im def wrong on

[brisk ingot]

~2.5k in a normal year i think

just varies on company / region performance

[lethal apex]

? You an intern too? Im so dead

[lethal apex]

Wait this is so goofy im becoming a trader

[dire finch]

they cut over half of the traders first year lo

[lethal apex]

maybe hardware will be like 1 marble for every nanosecond saved

😈 I’m better

[brisk ingot]

congrats on 1 marble your entire career

[lethal apex]

(i will be locked in a dark room doing verification)

[dire finch]

wtf leave chicago alone

[zenith panther]

bro ur orz tho

orz orz orz orz orz

sigh when will i become like riftorz

fulltime quant at a chicago market maker

[dire finch]

bro keeps interrupting his phd thesis on opt marble system

[zenith panther]

orzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[dire finch]

orz...

bros will do anything except let him finish

[zenith panther]

😊

😳

[lethal apex]

IC doesn’t stand for integrated circuit correct

[dire finch]

can u confirm how marble bands work

i heard 0-40-80-160-320 for levels approx

[lethal apex]

Tysm, next time feel free to infodump no need to waste your time deleting

Bro is fishing for the firm 😭

[dire finch]

sorry ill stop LOL

[lethal apex]

For some reason

bro hates fun

what’s a skip

just mentor

[dire finch]

brother

[brisk ingot]

wtf was that like head of tech

or 1 level below

[lethal apex]

wild mentor

we get it yk the ceo

[brisk ingot]

probably yea

i think my grand skip was head of hardware

[lime zealot]

125/hr is <= js

[lethal apex]

U in hardware ?

or low latency dev

[brisk ingot]

nah c++ swe but within the hardware team

last summer yea

[lethal apex]

can I dm about that

im in hardware, curious about smthg

[brisk ingot]

yea sure

i will say i didn't do any hardware stuff (like verilog n shit)

just like pretty low level stuff

[dire finch]

bro was mmaping orz

[brisk ingot]

for intern definitely

got interviews at most places that aren't crazy school selective

[tropic patrol]

Ngmi

[tiny sleet]

yo guys is it possible to get a quant internship for summer 2026 if this upcoming year will be my first year of uni

if so, what should be my plan of action

i think in terms of classes i might be fine cause first sem i'll be taking a probability theory class and second sem i'll be taking a quant math class

[grim sigil]

shut up nerd

[timber swift]

how about you build a solid foundation of internships and research experience before thinking about getting a quant internship in general 😹

[tiny sleet]

what internships would help with quant internships

[neon mirage]

MAANG

Unicorns

[tropic patrol]

Has anyone ever done headlands onsite/process or know someone who has? Will pay 25$ for the conversation

[tiny sleet]

i thought usually aspiring quants go for quant internships right away

[neon mirage]

Are you HYPSM

[tiny sleet]

so any mle intern position?

[tiny sleet]

no

[neon mirage]

it helped me get interviews

[neon mirage]

Then you’re not getting quant as your first internship

[tiny sleet]

my uni is in top 10 for cs though, previously i've been told it's like the bottom line expectation for quant

[neon mirage]

Highly unlikely. Never say never

Congrats on GT

[tiny sleet]

it's not gt

[tiny sleet]

?

[haughty hinge]

if it was gt hed say top 5 lol

[brisk ingot]

usually not too hard to get quant interviews, just do some more internships + get cracked at math/stats

freshman year is very unlikely, but soph onwards is more doable

[tiny sleet]

so any internship in an ml field is fine?

i'm also interested in computer vision

[neon mirage]

GT is top 5?

[tiny sleet]

7th i believe

[haughty hinge]

in CS I think they share with UIUC yes

[grim sigil]

lowkey it might be 6 or 7

[haughty hinge]

fuck

free GT then

[neon mirage]

Ahhh

[grim sigil]

so prolly UIUC, GT, UT Austic or UW

ut austin* lol

[tiny sleet]

uw is 13th

wait

[haughty hinge]

ye we are 6 now, were 5 last year

[tiny sleet]

shit nevermind

[brisk ingot]

ur thinking about wisconsin

[tiny sleet]

was thinking about the wrong uw

yeah

[brisk ingot]

yea

[neon mirage]

I think any internship FAANG + Unicorn it doesn’t have to be ML

[tiny sleet]

my plan is to go into the ml side of it though

qd is the role that trains the models right

or is that qr

[neon mirage]

QR AFAIK

[grim sigil]

mf what school are u at

if it aint stanford

no chance

[haughty hinge]

stanford doesnt have an insane quant placement

[grim sigil]

HYPSM etc

they will not interview u

[haughty hinge]

bruh😂

[neon mirage]

He’s right low-key

[haughty hinge]

havent been in this server in a bit, so depressing

[grim sigil]

i know

for QT u can get an interview

QR

no

[neon mirage]

It’s not really depressing to say rhat the most exclusive field in CS won’t interview you if you’re a freshman with no prev experience

[haughty hinge]

oh yeah no I agree

[grim sigil]

im not even saying he can't

just not rn

[haughty hinge]

I meant like no HYPSM no chance, which is a bit pessimistic

[tranquil wagon]

The most cracked programmer I’ve ever met who is student age goes to community college

[grim sigil]

without HYPSM as a FRESHMAN? no shot

u need some kinda name brand aura

[tranquil wagon]

He doesn’t do competitive programming

[grim sigil]

or like a math competition or something

[neon mirage]

Yeah just do some internships and it’s def doable later on

[tranquil wagon]

I really doubt it, I’ve never met anyone like him

[neon mirage]

You go to a T10 so you’re not ngmi

Just maybe ngmiRN

[tranquil wagon]

Refer to my previous message

[grim sigil]

lmfao

[tranquil wagon]

Lmao

[grim sigil]

what's ur USACO rank

/cf elo

what cf elo

[haughty hinge]

noob

[grim sigil]

what cf elo is that

mf answer my q

noob

[tranquil wagon]

If u think this server is gmi u have no business mogging anyone

[neon mirage]

Is TQD a gmi server? It’s always mentioned

[haughty hinge]

no

its worse than here

[grim sigil]

wtf is tqd

honestly we are all mid in the grand scheme of things

[neon mirage]

The quandigle drug ring

[grim sigil]

u included

[neon mirage]

We’re on discord at 11:15 on a Friday night

We are all ngmi

[tropic patrol]

U def can lol

U def dk what ur saying

[grim sigil]

u prolly work at google

mid

[tropic patrol]

I got process yes

[haughty hinge]

noob rn

[neon mirage]

LOL

process is not job

[tropic patrol]

Hell no I didn’t know what de Shaw was

Ur ngmi

Lmao

[neon mirage]

So YOU DK what you’re talking about lmao

[tranquil wagon]

^

[tropic patrol]

I didn’t know what quant was freshman year I was in quantum compilers research

Not fucking swe

[haughty hinge]

probably some tqd alt just came to troll again

[tropic patrol]

No

I’m berserkfan

[grim sigil]

i bet glaze works for big tech. google? mid, meta? mid

mid central

usaco bronze

mid

[tropic patrol]

bro who r u

Ngmi ahh speaking

[grim sigil]

glaze for referral anime profile pic

mid

[neon mirage]

I love this server everyone is so hostile

[haughty hinge]

lol

[tropic patrol]

Bro WHO ARE U

NGMI

[tranquil wagon]

No YOURE hostile

[haughty hinge]

shit actually gets ur cortisol through the roof

[tropic patrol]

U were sucking my dick on my other account

All of a sudden u think ur big

[neon mirage]

Shut up WILLIAM

[tropic patrol]

Right

[neon mirage]

Govt name on discord is crazy work

[tropic patrol]

U legit worshipped me

Weird fuck

????

[grim sigil]

is this andrew

[tropic patrol]

Stupid rage bait

[grim sigil]

where's andrew at

[tropic patrol]

Ur so bad at this

Andrew ngmi too

Dw

[neon mirage]

Quantum compilers research nerd

[grim sigil]

idk anything about andrew

[tropic patrol]

I’m p sure I saw u begging for zon OA

💀

[neon mirage]

SHE IS VERY BEAUTIFUL TO ME

don’t talk about Zon like that

[tropic patrol]

I’m really not

💀

Ur actually ngmi bro

[tranquil wagon]

Your name is literally html shut up WEB DEV!!

(Kidding!)

[grim sigil]

.5% of the US has gone to an ivy, .2% is homeless

do the math gang

yea lol

.7% of all college graduates are from ivys

[haughty hinge]

ye fs, they have other focus over there

[grim sigil]

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-024-03547-8?utm_source=chatgpt.com

chatgpt says .6% of US adults

[tropic patrol]

Ivy stat def inflated

[grim sigil]

bruh is it tho

[tropic patrol]

Shit like Cornell hospitality and Columbia teachers school inflate it

Like technically it’s Ivy

[grim sigil]

oh

[tropic patrol]

But like

Is it rlly prestigious? No

[grim sigil]

but if u think about it, how many ppl do u know that go to an ivy/ have gone

[tropic patrol]

I’d cut 15% from the ivy number

[tropic patrol]

A lot

[grim sigil]

i could believe .5%

exactly

[tropic patrol]

It’s easier to get into tho

Shouldn’t have said less prestigious

Now ur glazing someone as an ngmi

😭

[grim sigil]

so homeless>ivy degree

[tropic patrol]

I think degrees from MIT and CalTech/Stanford are far more prestigious than Ivy League degrees

[grim sigil]

who cares tho

[tropic patrol]

Society

[grim sigil]

like i think the difference doesn't matter

ON GOD

[tropic patrol]

Prestige is everything

[grim sigil]

yea u went to stanford can u crank 90s tho?

[tropic patrol]

I can play valorant tho

no 90s sadly

[grim sigil]

it's really not tho

what's the practical difference between an ivy and stanford in terms of opportunities

same shit

[tropic patrol]

I mean the Ivy League has tiers

[grim sigil]

😲 he went to dartmouth instead of stanford

o no

[tropic patrol]

shit like dartmouth and cornell are far lower than Stanford in terms of job prospects

[grim sigil]

??

according to what metric

[tropic patrol]

it’s definitely anecdotal

anecdotally

I have no metrics to back me

[grim sigil]

gang

i think it's more about the students than the school

if anything

[tropic patrol]

yeah for sure

MIT education is close to the quality from top state schools

it’s always been the students

Fs

No