#quants-n-traders

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low vault
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the intern process is pretty straightforward

tardy shell
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optiver also does ng hunting

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decent amount

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js nng recruiter is so cooked tho

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its so much harder than intern

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imo its better to take an extra sem and become intern and then get RO

low vault
tardy shell
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When I got bumped in soph year I was planning on applying ng and graduating early with my bachelors

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But I talked about the process and found out how much harder it is

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I’m not putting myself through that willingly

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I also didn’t wanna go into quant without intending there

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Hella dangerous

low vault
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oh

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interning there

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to understand if the experience is for u (?) makes sense

low vault
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they were already pretty nitpicky with the intern interview and I honestly don't think there are more details in the questions to nitpick

tardy shell
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Iirc this was a year ago but I think there’s on more round and the questions are harder

low vault
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oh

tardy shell
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Like a good magnitude harder

low vault
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I also heard that if you pass intern interview you get tossed only one extra round for ng

tardy shell
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Citadel has ng as well

low vault
tardy shell
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But it’s so much more school selective

tardy shell
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The citadel event I went to during summer

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Was like that

low vault
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we (me+friends) were wondering about this for JS

tardy shell
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The networking event

low vault
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but it might've been just RNG

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probably was just RNG

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networking event pog

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i only ended up going to one networking event and it was kinda pog

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free food and room good tho hahahahaha

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and the UNC kids were nice

low vault
tardy shell
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Yh citadel and optiver are the only ones I’ve gone to

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Citadel was nice since they put me in hotel

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Optiver was like 1 day

broken yarrow
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how diff are citadel NG vs intern process

low vault
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hotel is always great

low vault
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airport security reeeeeeeeeeeeeee

ivory sun
tardy shell
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Optiver was school

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Citadel was invited

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I guess cuz of data thin

ivory sun
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i see i see

rose holly
prime onyx
cedar sparrow
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dooming

ivory sun
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if im aiming for a quant adjacent swe job(like swe at janestreet) what types of projects would be good

tardy shell
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thats a common one tho

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os is also common unless you go hella into it

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uhh i did emulator

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nes emulator

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that was brought up

cedar sparrow
tardy shell
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yh this honestly

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id just tryhard internship

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than any project

meager comet
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Does time to complete on OA matter for quant firms

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Like as long as you finish within allocated time

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Quant firms don't exactly have the most typical hiring process so I was just wondering

cursive granite
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idk

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acc

neon mirage
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I think it does matter

meager comet
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I heard that somewhere before but at the same time, why would they set a long OA time if they also factor in OA time

dire finch
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more granularity for stack ranking

tardy shell
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Yh OA time fs matters

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Honestly I’d always suggest being sub 70 percent of the time

meager comet
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Scuffed

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I just take my time

ivory sun
low vault
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Just heresay

hot mica
# low vault People suspect it sometimes

At places where theres no fixed interview process (any pods / some of the prop firms) this is true but its mainly just because the questions you can ask are more applied

low vault
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i guess drawing on previous experience is easier to answer than raw theory qns

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tho... im tihinking mainly about the intern level lol

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you probably aren't touching prod and so idk how applicable the work is

hot mica
low vault
lethal apex
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cap

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thanks for indulging in our fantasies tho

low vault
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honestly it depends on ur manager

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and what the nature of ur project is

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and what "pushing to prod" means - are you actually changing production behaviour or just merging onto master?

lethal apex
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jokes aside it doesn’t make sense for an intern not to push to prod

low vault
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i think mainly its an IP issue tbh

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cos interns are temps

lethal apex
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True but I’m speaking even among tech companies

low vault
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but i think for tech its diff

lethal apex
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There’s this trend w “projects” rather than having the intern just hop into a product workflow

low vault
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intern should be able to do more bcs they don't have to be blocked from all of the ip sensitive stuff

low vault
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tbh I think both are useful

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pushing to prod is good to understand what real work looks like

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projects can sometimes be a really good learning experience

lethal apex
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The IP makes logical sense but surely there are levels to this

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from a risk management perspective I suppose it easier to just block an intern from having access to prod entirely

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oops I accidentally emailed our entire strategy white paper to the firm next door

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Oops I accidentally got hired by them too

low vault
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heh

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wait

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tbh

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stealing IP to get hired by a competitor sounds like an L move

hot mica
low vault
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that means they're hiring u to take IP and not for ur actual skills lulw

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so r u actually good enough to stay anyway?

lethal apex
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Duh

hot mica
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Compliance nightmare

lethal apex
hot mica
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Especially if its actual copied code

lethal apex
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I’m suggesting if you are extremely guarded about leakage, at least from a cybersecurity perspective, just cut them off entirely from something valuable

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make them do dashboards or sm

low vault
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wait what happened in the JS vs millenium case?

hot mica
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Why speculate? I just said pushing to prod as an intern happens at some places speaking from exp lol

hot mica
low vault
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oh

lethal apex
low vault
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so JS was just being fussy

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xd

hot mica
low vault
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oh

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fair enough

hot mica
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This is why u should pay proper bonus lol

low vault
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how does JS do bonus lol

hot mica
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Communist

low vault
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j curious am not trader

low vault
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😍

hot mica
low vault
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well unless if ur the one guy that wanted pnl cut

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but i think communism makes more sense for swe people

lethal apex
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I mean it seems to be working fine for them

tardy shell
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JS vs millennium case was wild

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I love India

gaunt hamlet
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has anyone gotten a job offer here from rentech? how hard is the interview/getting an offer compared to JS or millennium?

tardy shell
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@rose holly

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@lunar thicket ik youre probably working but i got an idea

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for my spring internship

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and i wouldnt even need to use my cpt in america

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qrt 4 months in london

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jan-april

zenith panther
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any fortnite grinders in the chat?

thin quest
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your a grown ass man

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play league

cedar sparrow
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run 1v1 gang

tardy shell
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damn bro was off discord the whole day

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bro all i did was clean my room

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maaan

dire finch
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IC gaming 🤮

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fpga gaming 🤮 ok no fpga is fine

lethal apex
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vro you just bad at spacing

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I am an artist and my canvas is LTSpice

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real why are all the ee labs at 8 am

grim sigil
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damn what the phuck is this

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what’s the thought process/ where does the problem solving come in?

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🤨

lethal apex
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you can try to solve it by hand but what you'd do is using approximations for different devices

tardy shell
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With this treasure, I summon Eight-Handled Sword Divergent Sila Divine General Mahoraga @dark Ψ

lethal apex
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yap yap yap transient analysis 1us -> trace -> Vo/Vin

tranquil wagon
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I have no firsthand knowledge of this but don’t they fire a lot of hires compared to most firms? That’s what I’ve heard from a few people

tranquil wagon
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Gotcha

stuck monolith
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Anyone know what the aquatic auto oa is like/how to prep for quant research hackerrank oa in general?

thin quest
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don't wanna waste time with ngmi's

cedar sparrow
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that’s open tn???

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rn?

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i’m p sure future focus is closed

untold prawn
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tf is tqd

thin quest
civic ocean
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anyone interviewing with citadel for swe or has interviewed with citadel?

hidden narwhal
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Ye

cedar sparrow
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watch them make u do the full length QT one

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☠️☠️☠️

spiral rivet
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lol make sure you don't fail or else you might not be able to do oa for actual internship when it comes out😭

thorny gate
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doesnt matter, its all about exp and school name helps somewhat

gleaming mauve
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classmate got cit w 3.89

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tho it was swe

tranquil wagon
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I think 3.9 vs 4.0 almost never matters lol

tardy shell
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moooooooods

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MOOOOOOOODS

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BAN HIS ASS

thorny gate
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doesnt matter, if u have the experiences they are looking for ul get an interview with p much any firm

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and if u have a 4.0 and ur experiences arent all that then u might only get interview at firms like cit who interview everyone

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putnam and icpc are very nice

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fang and other tech internships get the job done

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previous internships in the trading industry get u interviews everywhere

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getting the interview is rlly not the hard part

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in trading firms

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in tech yeah its teh hard part

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only way to get it soph more year would be to get smth like imc in my opinion

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otherwise u gotta get lucky

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lol forget quant my guy

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just go tech swe

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cap

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and those guys are cracked

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and if they arent cracked they wont progress if they chill

tranquil wagon
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No it’s not, tech most people work 40

thorny gate
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also 40 hrs at meta feels different than 40 hours at hrt

tranquil wagon
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I think you can comfortably find places where you won’t go over 50 most weeks

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Just take the classes as early as you can

thorny gate
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there are swe teams in every company that dont work you too hard in quant but those teams are usually shit and i would rather go to tech

tranquil wagon
thorny gate
tranquil wagon
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There’s definitely a big range I think, you might just be unlucky

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Yeah I feel the same

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That said I don’t want 996

thorny gate
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depending on what team u are u might want it when u see the upside

tranquil wagon
thorny gate
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gonna be soon

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some trading desk

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so the upside was p crazy for the people working there

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especially in high vol market conditions

lethal apex
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acc u specifically are prob fine lol

tranquil wagon
tranquil wagon
lethal apex
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I think u told me wya this summer so

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But also quant dev is a hit or miss cause

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They could just bully u into a 996

tranquil wagon
lethal apex
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just simple math

tranquil wagon
lethal apex
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Chances are p low

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And once you are dead u prob won’t care anymore

tranquil wagon
lethal apex
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anyway… we pulling up to headlands? 12 hour workdays 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

lethal apex
tranquil wagon
lethal apex
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im messin I don’t think anyone wants to work a 996

tranquil wagon
lethal apex
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And its easy to say that now but imagine u got a family and also

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Your parents getting older

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things change yk

cursive granite
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hi

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grimmm

lethal apex
dire finch
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cookie

coral cosmos
cerulean compass
dire finch
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trillium

low vault
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Test

tranquil wagon
dire finch
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you're* doomed

slate pond
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Hello nice to meet you

tranquil wagon
lethal apex
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y’our”

dire finch
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y''''''''' (8th time derivative of y)

tranquil wagon
cursive granite
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yo

dire finch
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y

cerulean compass
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guys could I get some second opinion from you cracked people? I'm choosing meta (rng team) over Snowflake (database eng, distributed db) tryna get swe/qd from any major shop next cycle

tranquil wagon
cerulean compass
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okkk

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sheesh

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would a lack of cpp exp at Meta br a deal breaker for screen

lethal apex
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no but not having any cpp exp would be a detriment in the interview

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feel like using cpp in a real dev cycle is so helpful

cerulean compass
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never thought recruiters dont screen keywords that much

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thats chill then

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totally bro, cpp is so popular I regret not going for a cpp shop last cyclr

gleaming mauve
cerulean compass
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kk sg

blazing cedar
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i interned at ml infra team at meta, and got many quant interviews, even with no name school

prime onyx
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Bricked another quant interview 💔💔💔

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Who the hell schedules 9am interview

lapis glen
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I just hopped off an interview from 6:30 to 7:30😭

prime onyx
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My brain turns on only after 11

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Anything earlier and I have dementia

lapis glen
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real

prime onyx
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Got hit with coin toss question

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Messed up probability calculation

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Interviewer was not happy

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🫣😔

lapis glen
prime onyx
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Also anyone know if citadel fall is too late to apply for rn

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Some ppl at my school alr got offer

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So idk if I’m cooked for that or not

rotund sable
slate pond
tardy shell
cursive granite
tardy shell
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i always omtervoew post 11am

kindred ginkgo
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heello

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i am tyrign to sell my codebase

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i have yt channel any body want to biz dm me ?

prime onyx
prime onyx
jagged saddle
cedar sparrow
prime onyx
cedar sparrow
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presumeably only for swe?

prime onyx
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I’ve seen both I think

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Followed like 20 recruiters on LinkedIn

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Ima spam them all

tardy shell
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Cit off season is for everyone

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Not just loo

celest anvil
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I do think its late tho since my recruiter pushes for final leadership interview at worst first week of march

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Since they already are doing team matching

cedar sparrow
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swe?

cedar sparrow
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for them

celest anvil
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U apply for summer

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Then they have season interest in the app just click all then hopefully ur team wants to move

final garden
lapis glen
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is it harder than snowflake

celest anvil
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It varies a lot my i think it’s comparable

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Phone was pretty basic for me just check if u can code and tell correct time and space complexity

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Onsite 3 technicals were advanced graph and algo

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Then 2 leadership rounds were on my projects and the follow up technical concepts

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I had google offer to expedite so i finished within 2.5 weeks

lapis glen
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oh wow

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u crushed it

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ru by chance waterloo

celest anvil
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No im from UT

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Not turing

lapis glen
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oh UT is goatedd

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bro Google and Cit

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crazy

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I aspire to be you bro

prime onyx
prime onyx
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pray for best lol

sonic summit
lapis glen
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it wasn't anything fancy bro

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random fintech

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need citadel

sonic summit
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rbh -> cit -> js

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😭

celest anvil
prime onyx
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I’m in the process of rizzing recruiters

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I need fall internship

celest anvil
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Idk i dont do lc tbh

astral lark
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is anyone in the maven securities process right nw

tardy shell
dire finch
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2 @ 200 best offer

cursive granite
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wassup

dire arrow
dire finch
dire arrow
dire finch
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@dire arrow 49.99 @ 70.01

tardy shell
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not enough

cursive granite
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interesting

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not interesting

tardy shell
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no idea but i think its like flow level pay

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slightly better

dire finch
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fuck we priced ourselves out

dire arrow
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SOLD

dire finch
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shit really?

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59.36 @ 65.01

dire arrow
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The flow level pay information came in and I updated my priors

terse barn
# celest anvil No im from UT

howd u pass cit res screen 💀 im UT too prev quant, inc js summer and got screened for cit fall, doesnt even make sense

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cit and sig are like the 2 firms that r straight up never gonna interview me

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and ctc 💀

hidden narwhal
terse barn
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maybe, honestly not sure why i got rejected for summer either

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also i had to apply 3 times to get an interview for summer 💀

hidden narwhal
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Tf

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I had Leilani too

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I got rejected after vo

terse barn
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citadel will interview a freshman with nothing on their resume except 2 crud projects and a high school project management internship

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and not me ✅

hidden narwhal
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Yeah I had no prev internships

terse barn
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not beating the amazon of quant allegations

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the 3 times thing is a major strat, it got me databricks offer lmao

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my guess is cit finally figured out they rejected me already after i did phone after third app

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and then rejected me despite performance on phone

celest anvil
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Capitalistic distribution

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Cit is also the only quant firm interviewing me this season hrt blacklisted me from last 2 season performances and i never got any other interviews

untold prawn
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i thought u still need a decent res

sage shore
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do you need diff descriptions + phone number for each

stiff dagger
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insanely random

tardy shell
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citadel rlly be so rng

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if you have 3.9 gpa they gonna give you interview fs

terse barn
tardy shell
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its fine this sem im gonna go to 3.7 again lets goo

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acc 3.7+

lethal apex
tardy shell
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cs and ee

celest anvil
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You can trick the system as it’s mostly regex string matching but it’s hard to trick recruiter esp since they note your resume with notable references

terse barn
terse barn
dire arrow
tardy shell
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my name is super unique

dire arrow
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thats an important element

terse barn
tardy shell
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no my last name

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how tf you have my insta

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hoyl

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@terse barn are you bgop?

terse barn
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remember u leaked it at some point

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and i told u to delete it

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i j followed u 😂

tardy shell
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o fuck

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then who tf is bgop

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i gotta remove this terrorist alwaysd lurking in my stories

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holy shit why tf bro lwk hot af

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FUCK LWK

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ITS HIGH KEY

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hello?

cursive granite
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damn buddy

sick narwhal
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can i do quant with a eecs degree?

tardy shell
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Yuh

cursive granite
lethal apex
weak rock
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what r the top 5 quant shops when it comes to swe $?

fallen grotto
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js, hrt, jump, cit are some of the best i think

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lowk it depends a lot on what wlb u want

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ive heard the first two have much better wlb

cursive granite
dire finch
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competitors shoulderlands, kneelands, toelands

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sorry my intrusive thoughts

lethal apex
dire finch
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@lethal apex my umd friends are doing top daily app on kalshi wanna ruin their sharpe

lethal apex
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All my opps from umd

cerulean bloom
lethal apex
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Watch yo back in college park 😤😤😤

dire finch
lethal apex
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we ruin their sharpe by making the #1 app 😈😈😈

prime onyx
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How cooked am I 2.3 gpa

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2x faang incoming loo cs student

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Omitting gpa from resume method works until they ask for transcript lol

lethal apex
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avg loo 2.3 gpa student

quasi orbit
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she got fired?

dire finch
tardy shell
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me basically

hearty citrus
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anyone in the quant collegiate league comp for cit? It says it spans march to april but I still havent gotten any instructions

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if anyone knows anything pls dm

gloomy coral
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do quant firms care about what language u use during the interview for swe

lethal apex
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I prefer armenian

prime onyx
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and coop grind

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usually defer assignments and midterms, study last 2 weeks of classes and pull 60 on my exams

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i asked around, one of my friends whos in similar position got rejected final round at bam after they asked for transcript

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albeit he has a 2.7 i think

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also yea i never go to class

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i had a recruiter ask me for my gpa and tell me that its gonna be a problem

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but im wondering if there are any other firms that don't explicitly need like a 4.0/

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or do i have glass ceiling with faang

dire finch
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if you're gonna do that just take the easiest classes possible and gpamaxx

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terrible strategy

prime onyx
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This strat u pretty much delay all stress to the last 2 weeks of classes

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And meanwhile u can rizz recruiters

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I was told my entire career gpa didn’t matter up until I started taking to quants

sterile spruce
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is penn good for quant recruiting

lone gull
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(asking bc I think countries like india have stricter reqs with gpa whereas many in the usa are a bit more lenient with it)

prime onyx
lone gull
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new york?

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I was asking for country

prime onyx
mellow aurora
fresh swallow
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2.3 shows either you clearly don't give a shit (you, apparently) or you're braindead

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Feel like if I were a company I wouldn't want to hire either type of person

celest anvil
autumn shard
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ngl i feel like even if you had a 3.0+, they might be able to make an exception. 2.3 is wild tho 💀

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I feel like 3.0 is the minimum standard these days regardless of field so whoever told you otherwise just lied to you

lethal apex
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Is he in chemical engineering at Caltech or sm

prime onyx
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Gpa mainly measures consistency and good grades

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My cumulative average (all courses) is around a 70%

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The bare minimum is a 60 to continue with school

prime onyx
lone gull
dire arrow
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bro got extra information and got they panties in a twist over it

untold prawn
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they still interviewing?

cursive granite
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holy smoke

gilded trail
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Diabolical

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Recruiter said they’d finished by Feb

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Perhaps someone reneged

lone gull
cursive granite
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damn discord forgot to validate if he is human

tropic dirge
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!process offer

thin quest
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bro just wants to flex

lethal apex
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kerfuffle actually goated ⁉️

low vault
thin quest
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only us loo people know

grim sigil
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cs career questions I believe

low vault
mellow aurora
low vault
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last yr took me like a month

rugged rampart
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it was pretty fast for me, about 3 weeks?

low vault
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depends on how AWOL your references are

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my prof was on vacation for a few weeks

prime onyx
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Do u have link

clear grove
low vault
low vault
mellow aurora
low vault
mellow aurora
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no like why would he be like that

low vault
lethal apex
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Atp its better to have horrifically bad grades

low vault
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numerical avg is great

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i get to report that instead of my gpa

rough plume
tranquil wagon
near falcon
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Hello. Are there people from SF or NY around here?

tardy shell
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no

lethal apex
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we are all from a small community college based in Gary, Indiana

cursive granite
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Wsg

rose holly
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does anyone know interview preperation websites for quant trader specific role

rain spear
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Hey

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Does anyone know what to expect for dv trading?

dire finch
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steanmes my favorite game platform

tardy shell
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@lunar thicket isn’t prosperity free?

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Why is there a referral code

tardy shell
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Cracked

brisk ingot
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no the referrer

thin quest
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can't you just make fake accounts

languid lodge
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what score do u need on mental math test for flow traders dis day

lavish swift
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Has anyone interviewed for JPMC quant mentorship program

hardy marsh
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has anyone done sig qt intern, interview?

rose holly
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is coinbase res value stronger for quant or swe?

prime onyx
near nymph
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probably just because it’s crypto

lethal apex
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more so because it runs an exchange

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would be like working for nasdaq

main totem
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Thoughts on Millenium vs Cubist vs Virtu?

timber swift
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cubist > virtu > millennium

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imo

finite cedar
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depends on the mlp pod

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but cubist is 100% better than the other 2

halcyon belfry
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mellow aurora
near nymph
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how many referrals do you need to get merch

halcyon belfry
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damn thats some ass^^

halcyon belfry
rose holly
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did anyone here get past resume screen for Peak6 Trading Bootcamp Micro-Internship - Summer 2025? just got the rej email after applying yday, got decent callbacks from most firms but havent been able to crack P6/Jump in the least

ripe crown
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bunch of ppl ik did but im still waiting to hear back- whend you get it

tight mural
hardy marsh
ocean phoenix
tall helm
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has anyone interviewed with schonfeld?

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no idea what their process is like

coral sphinx
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anyone in the maven securities interview process?

tardy shell
coral sphinx
#

can I dm?

tardy shell
#

ye

pliant rain
# tardy shell ye

Hey mate! I had my Citadel QR intern Round 2 a few days ago. How long did it take for you to hear back abt the virtual onsite round?

tardy shell
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i did process rlly early in the cycle ngl

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i was getting stuff between 3-5 business days

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idk whats its like now

pliant rain
#

yea lol, the wait's too long. they took ~10 days to schedule the 2nd round too. Same with SIG QR scheduling

amber bison
#

Anyone here doing the umich trading comp?

cedar sparrow
#

any firms still running 4 s25?

near knot
#

I can help you out I made it to final round but couldn't make it past cuz of some pretty dumb mistakes on my end

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well I interviewed SWE so if ur interviewing something else idk if i can help you with that

tall helm
zenith panther
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i heard that it was

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but dont quote me on that

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im inly like 8% sure

low vault
#

YES

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they'll also make you redo the technicals for every team

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i did 14 interviews with them

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thanks cubist...

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dev 😭

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its truly an abhorrent system

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QR prob worse 😭

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i feel like QR is more integral..

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eventually 😭

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grinded through like 3 teams

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which team are you interviewing with, KEPL?

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damn

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did you not apply directly to the position on their website

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ah

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fair enough

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yeah they have tons of like

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smaller pods that seem to not directly post

rose holly
#

oh wait what? I remeber sending my resume to a general recruiter email who said she'd rotate, but I didnt know you apply team specific?

spiral rivet
#

did you get reached out by recruiter or did you cold email?

tranquil wagon
#

Doubt they’d do that if each team wants to do their own interviews

low vault
#

Nah

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But you do have to do different technicials again

tiny sleet
#

hey guys, what would be a good roadmap for becoming a quant? (so far i only know some basic linear algebra and multivariable calculus and have started learning machine learning, primarily the basics of neural networks, but absolutely no knowledge of finance)

zenith panther
#

stats + probability + linear algebra

sour pilot
#

crazy

tiny sleet
#

is knowing about stocks and bonds enough

vague forge
#

I love ur pfp

tranquil wagon
tiny sleet
tranquil wagon
#

I have brain damage and am gapped in every way so you should ignore

tiny sleet
#

i see

dire finch
near knot
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Doesn’t hurt to have basic knowledge on various asset classes, how variables in the markets impact them, basic options theory, etc

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And if you’re a technical major which i’m assuming you are these you could probably learn in a day or 2

bright mountain
#

Are headhunters legit

tiny sleet
near knot
#

Hahahaha ur ahead of the curve

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Investment banking group is cool but I feel like quant group will prob have enough info about the process for you depends on ur school also i’m sure

tiny sleet
#

they have an interview process which from what i've heard, is primarily leetcode type questions and they also may ask some finance related things

near knot
#

Yea bro if it’s a student org there’ll be technicals but it’ll be light seeing as the pool you’re competing with is way smaller

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i’d say main piece of advice i can give you is network with members in the quant group

tiny sleet
near knot
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Just email them

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Ask for a. chat

tiny sleet
#

oh yeah i could do that

near knot
#

They’ll give you sage wisdom and it’ll help them put a face to the name

tiny sleet
#

just want to make sure i know the right path for quant

near knot
#

Seems like ur chilling

tiny sleet
#

while it's not gonna be my main career path, it's an interesting field and so i want to learn it too

near knot
#

Just keep grinding

tiny sleet
#

my main path is gonna be computer vision

tiny sleet
#

or for ml in general

#

deciding between a course on probability theory and a very simple basic stats with numpy and pandas course

near knot
#

^

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the course on probability theory will likely take you far

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and itll be nice cuz you'll be able to easier visualize the math that goes into common ML models like neural networks rather than just seeing it as a black box

tiny sleet
#

i haven't done too much with neural networks yet, but i've tried a basic feed forward implementation (it's absolutely garbage and doesn't even work)

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gotta figure out how to fix it

woven pond
#

has anyone ever done an old mission python interview?

spiral rivet
#

@tardy shell can i dm about tower process?

last plover
#

Is anybody in worldquant brain??

tiny sleet
dire finch
#

are you building your own matrix library too or just using numpy

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the latter is much easier iwl

tiny sleet
tiny sleet
#

i'm not making my own linear algebra library lol

uneven crow
#

Are you put on a permanent blacklist with quant firms if you renege an offer after signing?

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worried because this is one of the few in Canada, don't wanna screw myself later down the line lol

last plover
tiny sleet
#

also will they allow me to do it if i'm not in uni yet

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cause from what i saw they were even asking for company name

tranquil wagon
hardy marsh
tiny sleet
#

just want to know cause i'm doing it next year

tiny sleet
#

personally i was lost as to what a learning path would be for this field

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while it's more of a side quest for me as my main focus is in computer vision, i still want to learn enough to be a quant in the future if i choose to do so in the future

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is knowing just basic linear algebra and multivar calc enough or should i learning anything else before getting started with this platform?

mellow aurora
mellow aurora
#

You don't need anything you could gpt all your "research"

tranquil wagon
tiny sleet
#

what research

mellow aurora
mellow aurora
#

Do you work at pika

tiny sleet
tranquil wagon
mellow aurora
#

I thought maybe you'd be himothy

tranquil wagon
tranquil wagon
mellow aurora
tranquil wagon
#

Truly

hardy marsh
zenith panther
mellow aurora
zenith panther
#

william lin

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tmw168

mellow aurora
#

Oh

valid sand
#

how hard is it to convert from java -> cpp

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and not internally

tranquil wagon
#

Unless there’s some weird circumstance you probably can’t go from being a Java dev to cpp just because you’re interested without any experience

valid sand
tranquil wagon
#

I dont think it would be easy to get a first round interview for a low latency c++ role without c++ exp though

valid sand
#

yeah thats the issue 😦

#

ive been studying cpp but hearing back is insanely hard

tranquil wagon
#

Or try to get your current company to give you a c++ project if possible

valid sand
sour pilot
#

anyone know when DE shaw fills HC?

#

their apps are out soearly

hoary pebble
#

does anyone know hrt process? i applied 2 weeks ago and dont know anything abt how they do recruiting. does hrt usually ghost?

cursive granite
#

which role?

hoary pebble
#

cpp dev i can try to find the actual position rq

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software engineer c++ ng

gentle robin
#

how likely is to go from meta swe intern to new grad quant trading

#

also is the quant cycle done for this season, ie summer 2025

#

would it be better to do an extra year and get a masters, and potentially a trading internship

celest anvil
#

Yeah that works everywhere except JS and 5R

#

Those firms believe traders’ fruit season is from middle school to end of undergrad

#

They’re the best in business as well

dire finch
#

middle school to end of undergrad 😭

gentle robin
#

damn, so am I cooked

ruby fog
#

yo

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on what man

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thanks tho

tiny sleet
#

on being the goat

hearty citrus
#

anyone doing the IQC by WorldQuant? dm me if u r

rain spear
#

Why does DV trading internship seem very sketchy...

#

Not a lot of info online and their process is unclear

tranquil wagon
vale inlet
#

Hi, does anyone work at Jane Street here? I have some questions

vale inlet
#

I was just checking first if there’s anyone who has the knowledge

split lintel
#

I know a few people incoming jane street here

vale inlet
neon mirage
#

So your question is really “anyone work at Jane street and wants to give me a referral?”?

vale inlet
spiral rivet
#

airball

vale inlet
#

Let’s leave it to them

spiral rivet
#

if anyones down to refer manshi can you refer me too while you're at it

dire arrow
#

i gave manshi a ref to my last internship and she ended up saying the f-slur in the interview

#

id be careful with this firecracker

neon mirage
#

"lets leave it to them"

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vale inlet
#

These people keep bullshitting which doesn’t seems fair, I do have the relevant work experience that’s why I wanted to reach out

dire arrow
#

who is bullshitting

dire arrow
neon mirage
dire arrow
#

well that aint really a slur then rite

neon mirage
#

if youre a cupcake it is

mellow aurora
vale inlet
#

Yes I’m very much aware of that, that’s why i checked first that if anybody is working there so that I can dm them and tell them about my experience, my achievements and why I’ll be suitable for the role. If then they say no, again I’ll keep trying. So yes I know how this referral process works.

near knot
#

How hard is NG recruiting for quant in comparison to junior year recruiting?

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I have an offer from a bank for a quant adjacent role for next summer (my junior year summer) and I'm concerned on if this is leveragable into a buy side quant NG position

tranquil wagon
cursive granite
#

not me dont blame me

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T_T

tranquil wagon
cursive granite
#

shit

neon mirage
#

Yeah it’s so easy to get an interview lol what a nerd

tranquil wagon
#

Dang I can’t pass the resume screen

#

Maybe I’ve been the true ngmi all along

low vault
#

JS referral is really useful for lower years SWE

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bcs they generally won't interview you at all unless if you're in final year

#

the interview is very experience agnostic so like it's helped quite a few of my friends get offers there lol

#

I think for trader it's a bit different

#

they interview a ton of people for trading, including a lot of 1st/2nd years, but the interview itself seems to be much harder in comparison

tranquil wagon
#

I think ur discord is glitching

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jagged patio
#

have a citadel 45min first round on zoom, any tips to expect? (swe intern)

woven pond
#

Has anyone ever heard of Aleto/interviewed with them?

cursive granite
jagged patio
spiral rivet
#

are they still recruiting this late?

jagged patio
#

ok cool, thanks

tiny sleet
#

what that's it?

#

is that typical of behaviorals for intern

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oh

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nevermind

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phone round

#

what kind of questions do they ask in behavioral

spiral rivet
#

anyone knows about how much squarepoint capital QT US offer is? I looked on website and it says minimum base is 60k. anyone have a more accurate number?

fresh swallow
#

Prolly nto that hard

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But interviewers can ask whatever they want

lethal apex
tiny sleet
charred spear
spiral rivet
#

anyone know what a "quantitiative strategist" does

#

at akuna

grim sigil
#

aight

#

meta -> quant dev

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do i need to do green book

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yes or no

neon mirage
#

No

cursive granite
#

no

terse barn
spiral rivet
#

@coral cosmos is it okay if i dm abt BW?

coral cosmos
grim sigil
#

I also feel like the codeforces problems are a lot cleaner somehow, they’re way more fun to think about. It seems like you get value out of just thinking whereas leetcode feels like you have to manually do the problems

low vault
#

you spend more time implementing instead of coding

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but ig cf also discourages more standard/template problems

sudden aspen
grim sigil
valid sand
#

whats the contest name

daring basalt
#

Whats easier faang to quant or quant to faang

mellow aurora
daring basalt
#

thank you veil

unreal rock
low vault
grim sigil
#

If u normalize for intelligence, probably big tech to quant imo. I don’t think an Uber recruiter knows what the fuck ansatz capital is

brisk ingot
#

hard to go from faang -> quant unless u were doing work that's relevant ish to quant

#

which is a minority of faang employees

tranquil wagon
low vault
#

Apparently NG fang is so aids

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It’s Koehler

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Over

dire finch
#

it's koehler

grim sigil
rugged rampart
#

This is not for ng

brisk ingot
#

oh i was talking about experienced

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like after a few years

#

i would say intern it’s the opposite yea

low vault
#

(FWIW I can actually see this for mid level lol… at NVIDIA I asked my mentor and he said he got a panel interview)

dire finch
#

grind to senior in 3 years then interview as senior orz

low vault
#

Sr prob worse

tiny sleet
#

what are some beginner quant projects for someone who has never done anything quant related but has a good understanding of math

dire finch
#

vol surface sim with black scholes

tiny sleet
#

this?

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yeah i def got a shit ton to learn before even thinking about any of this

celest anvil
#

Idk if they ask sys design like in tech

dire finch
#

it's a good tech tree though you learn a good deal

grim sigil
#

black sholes is a bit more accessible, i think you can understand the derivation without knowing all that, u do need a bit of mathematical maturity tho

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the measure theoretic probability stuff i dont understand

dire finch
#

oh for qt sure

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but qt is glorified coke monkey job anyway

#

diff eq and real anal are soft prereq for stoch calc

#

fair point

#

my original comment was on understanding the math behind vol surfaces in black scholes

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which requires the above

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agree but it's feasible to make a small wankerish numerical methods project on it

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OP wanted "quant project for ppl good at math"

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i deliver

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some data science would be much more practical i don't disagree

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lol that's fair it's usually a grad course for depressed risk qr gunners anyway

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orz goldball sacks job...

grim sigil
#

wiener process

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i know all about that

dire finch
#

i prefer my wieners slightly biased

near knot
#

In your guys opinion, what has better career/salary progression, big tech SWE or quant at a sell side institution / bank?

misty basin
#

Can you still do personal trading if you work at a quant firm

restive gorge
#

Does anyone have a clue what the imc trader launchpad hirevue is like?

main totem
#

With examples 🙏

mellow aurora
#

It's a firm

neon mirage
#

It’s somewhere between Walmart and rentech

lavish swift
dire finch
chrome lichen
#

incase anyone wanted to apply idk if people alr found this posting or not

near knot
tardy shell
#

usually everyone should be home by 9pm

#

you can break into the office then

lethal apex
#

Not entirely true - Citadel uses a custom calendar and time system invented by Ken Griffin in which days are 36 hours long.

#

So leaving the office at midnight is actually very generous

tranquil wagon
#

Yeah bad gpa is fine just make sure it’s not lower than like 3.9

tropic dirge
#

depends on the school as well

tranquil wagon
#

There are people who made 10000% returns on dogecoin

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U got this 💪

spiral island
#

so does 3.6 at CMU suffice?

tiny sleet
#

wtf cmu

#

bro's cracked

#

they tried to help me cope by putting me on waitlist 💀

tranquil wagon
grim sigil
lethal apex
grim sigil
#

What codeforces rating do you think is good enough

#

I thought 1600 but I think that might be too low

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1600 feels like LC medium a lot of the time

#

maybe easier tbh because the implementation isn’t as hellish

lethal apex
#

1600 not lc medium vro 😭

grim sigil
#

am I tweaking?

stiff dagger
grim sigil
#

to be 1600 u need to solve 1600 rated problems 50% of the time

#

and the lower ones too I think

#

idk but that’s not really my point

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trying to get an upper bound on interview difficulty in terms of codeforces problem rating

spiral rivet
#

does gpa matter if you have prev quant internship

zenith panther
#

ngl the problems they give u are like 1000

tranquil wagon
#

You don’t need codeforces lol just be competent at software development

tranquil wagon
#

SPACEBAR :D

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Life’s been pretty great, working on cool stuff at work then working on fun stuff at home. How’s everything with you?

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Nice, what c++

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Yeah that’s why graphics is so great because everything just works like you tell it to and you don’t need to worry about real physics just the bad approximations of it

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I’ve found them to be really useful for enforcing common interfaces at compile time without a ton of static asserts and type traits

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Beyond that I haven’t used them much

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robot.move( { 0, 0, 3 } )

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Ez

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Hahaha

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Well at least it’s moving

#

Have you found any cool ones

#

Good but overhead from indirection

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Depends if u care more about space or time like always I guess

#

Love those

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Fold expressions make my head hurt though

#

Oh I meant more instruction cache misses not data

#

But yeah that’s a good point

#

Have you seen the proposed syntax for reflection btw

#

It’s diabolical

#

Lmaooo

#

I hate it so much, how will I ever be able to write that without looking at a reference

#

I was so excited about reflection too

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But now it’s gonna be as hard to read as regex

#

That is pretty neat

#

What’s that gonna do

#

Hmm I need to look into that, I hadn’t heard about it

#

Oh I guess that makes sense

#

Is it because reinterpret cast can cause UB?

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Oooh that sounds cool, I’ll check it out

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Thank you

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Oh it looks like boost stable_vector a bit

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But with faster removals

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Very very cool

#

Yeah I guess that would help in a couple situations

#

In my personal engine I made the design decision to have a fixed memory budget for everything, so almost everything just uses statically sized arrays

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But I suppose if you didn’t want to do that then this would be a nice container to have access to

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Haha console engine dev (not that my engine is meant for console but still) is pretty similar to embedded

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Yeah I try to make my engine as performant as possible so I follow a couple common embedded practices

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Haha

#

Yeah seems like it

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I don’t know how I’d use them to make my code better lol so maybe not enough but I think I can classify an expression into one of them

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I don’t understand the need for classifications beyond lvalue and rvalue from the perspective of someone using the language, I feel like those are more for compiler writers

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Im probably wrong though

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Wdym by this

tiny sleet
#

wsg

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bros back

tranquil wagon
#

Yeah

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Hmm weird

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I’ll check that out

tiny sleet
#

by the way are you on the quant team

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bro what

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why do i know and you don't

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investment group

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tryna avoid saying the first part cause that would dox you

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yeah

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do you think it would provide any value for quant

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not for getting an offer

#

i know companies usually don't give a fuck abt clubs

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just to learn

tranquil wagon
#

Oh this is honestly pretty cool but I don’t think it affects lifetime

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It’s essentially just creating a new object with existing memory

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Oh wait start lifetime as doesn’t call constructor

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That’s the difference

#

So basically reinterpret cast(?)

#

Idk

tranquil wagon
#

Yeah that’s cool

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I do wonder if any of this stuff is used in real codebases lol

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Some of it feels like limited benefit and like just a more complicated but “correct” way to do things that can already be done

#

I think even if you’re writing it unless it’s a platform dependent thing (which is what the stl is best for) it’s more transparent to do the bit manipulation yourself

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Gl! Nice to talk to you

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I can respect it, I’m still holding out though

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I don’t do enough generic programming for it to be necessary for me

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Hahaha

spiral island
#

Hey folks, I'm a masters student aiming for new grad quant jobs (SDE). I'm okayish at DSA with a 1840 LC rating and a 1460 CF rating altho I have not taken part in contests since a long time now. I'm looking for peers to study together with in the coming months aimed at landing quant jobs (hopefully we do get interviews lmao). It's always fun to do something together/we can be accountable to each other compared to grinding alone. Lmk/dm me. thanks

zenith panther
#

c++ orzers

tardy shell
#

resources for c++ internals @rose holly @tranquil wagon

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or just man pages?

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i feel like ik quite a bit about cpp stuff but i want to know everything p much

#

some of the stuff yall talk about i cant keep up with

#

i want to ammend that

tranquil wagon
fresh swallow
#

Best way to learn is just try and implement shit yourself

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imo

fresh swallow
#

And some of them can actually be more error prone since most people understand what's going on less

tranquil wagon
tranquil wagon
fresh swallow
fresh swallow
tranquil wagon
fresh swallow
#

That's what I just said