#quants-n-traders

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dire finch
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in general quant is a niche job that specifically filters for iq since the job is largely unlearnable in university

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so they just want you to be extremely smart and teachable

spiral rivet
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do yk what school

dire finch
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not doxxing

spiral rivet
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tbf philosophy is supposed to be a pretty rigorous field

stone drum
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philosophy majors going from thinking about the world to mindlessly making money lmao

stone vector
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thinking about the world doesn't make a difference

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helping make the markets more efficient and liquid make a difference in the world

fresh swallow
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No more like T10-15 public school

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Think UT/UMich

stiff dagger
stiff dagger
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how common is boot camp -> js/cit/optiver

latent flame
near nymph
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there’s like a special bootcamp that legit gives referrals to places like hrt

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that bootcamp might be more gmi than your school

stiff dagger
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ur gmi tho

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being top 1 in ur school W flex

uncut nexus
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2 sigma freshmen internship program anybody interviewed before

tranquil wagon
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Can I from quant soph to cfaang jr?

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End goal is Walmart but ik I need to work my way up to that

tranquil wagon
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Bros just out here crushing dream

stiff dagger
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forget about walmart if not

tranquil wagon
mystic valve
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squilliam lin

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i've seen cit soph --> atlassian junior

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so i think it is possible to go from quant --> walmart

tranquil wagon
dire arrow
fresh swallow
stiff dagger
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bruh holy

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headlands is insane

dire arrow
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bitch ass

stiff dagger
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for headlands? yes you ugly fuck

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where’s urs

dire arrow
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erm name 3 good things about headlands besides auraful name

stiff dagger
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auraful name…

dire arrow
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im geting cit qrs begging me to work under them as a non target underclassmen

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get on my level

stiff dagger
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ur CORNY

dire arrow
stiff dagger
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talk to me when ur sig

fresh swallow
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Getting a headlands swe interview is easy

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Deadass

dire arrow
stiff dagger
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then why hasn’t my friend jim simons gotten it

dire arrow
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just give me one more cycle

dire arrow
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also im a trader

stiff dagger
dire arrow
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c1, the cscd auto offer company?

stiff dagger
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too fine for them + yield protect

fresh swallow
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Maybe the guys who get headlands offers

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I don't even know what those are

cursive granite
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what are ostep and cs:app

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?

dire finch
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god tier cs books

thin temple
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its not hard to memorize enough to pass interviews

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  • lc at quants isnt generally hard
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or just in general

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hardest algo qs for quant swes is lowk the oas 😹

rose holly
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selling information on quant firms (ro rates, retention stats, progression, interview process structure and topics, job ladder, culture)

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also selling consulting calls for tips, tricks and recruiting strategy and mock interviews

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have done 3 years of research, having plenty friends with offers and myself multiple top offers

lime zealot
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how do we know your info is true

near nymph
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dude u are doing this wrong

rose holly
near nymph
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don't advertise here, make a youtube channel called "the coding buddha" and roast ngmis on livestream while charging your rate

lime zealot
rose holly
neon mirage
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You must be down bad, atrociously actually

rose holly
neon mirage
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If you wanna help tell it for free here

rose holly
pseudo dragon
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hi guys can i buy quant questions

neon mirage
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Those who can’t do, teach

pseudo dragon
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those who don't know anything, become VCs

rose holly
rose holly
zenith bone
vast relic
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i want quant offer plz

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please kindly dm me at your convience

rose holly
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sigh

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why are only ppl who know me trolling me

zenith bone
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they dont want to see you win its so crazy

neon mirage
rose holly
thin temple
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Not really, I mean you can’t be dumb but you’re not doing systems research you’re a software engineer

static iris
rose holly
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or selling for that matter

static iris
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I’m selling whatever this guy sell with concrete proofs. You think ur smart huh hehe

zenith bone
rose holly
static iris
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U think ur smart huh i also know ur full name school name and date of birth

hot mica
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Trembling

zenith bone
rose holly
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what does this mean

static iris
rose holly
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lmao

hot mica
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Hes legit btw, so hes not gonna sell questions lol

static iris
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Lmao so scared

rose holly
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thats not what im selling

static iris
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Taf ur just a kid

rose holly
static iris
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Ok so scared

hot mica
static iris
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A privileged kid

uncut nexus
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Does anybody know about 2sigma freshmen internship program?

rose holly
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but yeah

static iris
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So scared

minor wadi
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If so how ru prepping

rose holly
uncut nexus
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Just curious about the process

uncut nexus
neon mirage
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Congrats on having 8 thousand dollars

thin quest
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seems like it's 3 rounds I think

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tech -> superday -> behavioral(s)

rose holly
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3 fig warrior

neon mirage
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Yeah I’m poor asf but at least I’d never flex 8 bands 😂

rose holly
mellow aurora
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stroker aura

zenith bone
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cheers

near nymph
# rose holly

taf would be the kind of mf to send you a photo of the screen w they phone instead of a screenshot

cloud root
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@hot mica hi bestie!

mellow aurora
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@hot mica wsg

cloud root
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why is he actually in this server

pseudo dragon
rose holly
willow cliff
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where can I find resources, besides figgie, to practice marking making games?

minor wadi
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first round

uncut nexus
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When did you apply

minor wadi
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submitted OA 1/25

uncut nexus
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Oh ok I applied this week

mellow aurora
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Yea what about it

fresh swallow
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The OAs are stupid as fuck compared to the interviews

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Luckily once you have yoe most firms don't make you do the OAs

stiff dagger
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i heard u gotta instantly know sol for qswe ints or u fail

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or is that untrue

dire finch
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i dont think that's an unrealistic expectation

stiff dagger
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damn so it’s over

dire finch
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the pool top firms draw from consists of ioi / icpc moggers why would they settle

fresh swallow
dire finch
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also depends on if it's qd or swe

lavish swift
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Anyone interviewed at Lazard asset management?

stiff dagger
visual cargo
tranquil wagon
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For either role

zenith whale
# rose holly

ngl dawg thought u were speaking korean in the first 3 seconds

hidden narwhal
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@lunar thicket dyk any quant swe that regret the fact that they didn’t try to go the qr or qt path in college

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You can mainly only go qr/qt out of college right

thin temple
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It’s not hard questions though

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So like u shouldn’t struggle

gleaming mauve
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imagine not having meta n cit freshman year 🥱

thin temple
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there's also the strat of getting another degree mid career and transitioning

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like ms in stats or something

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but yeah it sucks

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ive seen many

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do it

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yeah ur not gonna be top tier research

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but mid tier

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def doable

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its doable tho

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yeah thats true but ms in stat goood school then low/mid tier firm and hop sometmies works

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yeah most ng dont get

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idk if true tbh, if u have like 3 yoe working at js or some shit as a swe then go on leave and get ms in stat or something, then apply for roles in qr/qt, i think firms will be interested to interview

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moreso qr

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u wont jump to js qr or anything

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and ur pay wont be as high as swe

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not just ms stat, was j an example

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mb for clarification

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it was just the first thign i thought of

low vault
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tbh unless if ur actively training ur instant reaction time to problem is not gonna be that good

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so i think theres legroom to mess up

rose holly
north hare
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can i apply js qt as a freshman

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the new role that came out

cursive granite
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Yeh

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Sure

rose holly
rose holly
north hare
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like they opened up qt roles for 2025 again

thin quest
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who is reneging jane qt

north hare
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no cuz i got rejected when it first came out

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so can i still apply again

thin quest
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ight

lime zealot
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very true

stiff dagger
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anyone do retail algo trading

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is it worth the time

mellow aurora
cloud root
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wsg

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i was summoned

scenic pumice
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No he isnt hes a fraud

cloud root
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true

scenic pumice
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A liar

stiff dagger
cloud root
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yea?

stiff dagger
cloud root
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yea

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ik

cloud root
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Why not the individual

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So your team can carry?

vast relic
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harvard is team

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but team selection is rng

dapper lake
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could someone send me the link for the TQD server?

stiff dagger
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and to me please i’ll be grateful

thin quest
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What’s harvard trading comp like

stiff dagger
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erm seems my message was overlooked

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can someone bless me in the dms

low vault
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TQD blobspin

dire finch
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the quack docs

low vault
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Imagine being in tqd

tardy shell
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anyone got anything on maven

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trader summer?

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whats first phone like

near nymph
tardy shell
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with the 3 questions

near nymph
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i think next round is a bit of everything, like why maven and then prob or mm games

tardy shell
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anyone know the tc for this

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i cant find it anywhere

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its only 8 weeks as well

stiff elbow
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This UK?

tardy shell
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yh

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UK or amsterdam

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idt they have us

near nymph
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do u need work authorization there or do they sponsor

tardy shell
near nymph
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that’s complicated 😭😭 what did u say in the job app

north hare
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how prestigious/useful is js fttp

tardy shell
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mako

tardy shell
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is doing two quant internships back to back any point

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doesnt delay grad

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i just need the money tho

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ay bro dont shit on us europoors like that, we got some good alc

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and food

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and free college that i didnt use

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good childhood tho

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also being able to drink froma young age

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also football

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ong i love getting trashed at stadiums

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i gotta go on american road trip as well

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my whole plan is to get a tacoma or something and take it either this summer before internship or between summer and fall internship

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and do the reverse cannonball run

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without the racing

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oh yh ofc

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my dog is gonna love it

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me and him gonna go together

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i live in cornfields alr im used to it

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germany

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gah damn what a drug infested hell hole

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not as bad as paris tho

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fuck paris

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its cuz the french are french

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but also paris is different breed of french

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wild fucking animals

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my hs had a rival school in paris

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useless idiots

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it wasnt like official but whenever competitions ahppened in our part of europe

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it would be our schools at the end

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or near each other

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football, badminton, debate

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tennis

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i was in debate and in tennis

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so ofc i met the most useless dredges of society in these 2 hobbies

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irritating fuckheads and rich assholes

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fr im just a irritating asshole

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so somehow the worst of both worlds

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didnt get the rich part either

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smh

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i never did it in college

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i just got so busy with the grind

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i wish i did tho, i regret not being in more non cs clubs

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and then i ended up quitting cs clubs after freshman year anyway after i had a mega crash out

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fr its just idiots doing trickle down economics with their idiocy

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i liked the math club freshman year cuz everyone was chill then quant took over and everyone wanted to join and it became competitive

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poker club turned intot he same

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so now im just in the dnd club, tennis club and a club that just works in homeless shelters

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good enough for me

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i dont want cs talk outside of classes and work

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fr, its such a hit or miss youre better off just networking with the cracked people individually

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thats why i go to career fairs to rizz up the huzz and the muzz

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wait in line for amazon, but rizz up the people around you

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for legal reasons this is a joke

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i got amazon OA literally cuz of a career fair 2 weeks ago

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ya

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no idea why amazon didnt send me oa when i originally aplpied

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but still

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my friend got verkada during the main one in fall

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2 of them acc

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one just got it now

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fr

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and there is the usual mid companies who hire

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nvidia and amd also traffic students from us, but only EE people rlly

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not so much for cs

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and i dont want to do manual labor at nvidia

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unless its robotics or sumn

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theres only like 2 choices in cornfields and im at the worse one

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man i wish my school was in a city

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smh went from a metropolitan city where shit doesnt close until 5 am and now bars be kicking us out at 2

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genuinely fucked up

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if no nyc this summer i fucking riot

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atleast now its 3 but it was 2 when i got here

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but i used to use a fake so meh

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i was just glad i got in

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bro why does a two sig recruiter keep looking at my linkedin but then i got rejected from them

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i also thought i was a good fit for them in general

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fucking school racists

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just like de shaw

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and then they have a gall to come to our hackathon to recruit

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ok just reapplied with other email to two sig

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lets see what happens

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damn why tf they keep reposting that ds internship

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calling my name like the ring from lotr

eager flume
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im cooked

low vault
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I lowkey

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Am curious what it looks like down there

tardy shell
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@lunar thicket do you Evelin in me?

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Believe

tardy shell
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Sorry bro I’m so drunke

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I just was red

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Discord open on phone

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4 am

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Sorry

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Lows do cracked

low vault
tropic dirge
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lol

lavish marten
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anyone here interview w desco

tardy shell
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Man wtf I’m so sorry

tardy shell
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I’m deleting discord next time I go out

low vault
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uh oh

stuck anvil
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Does 2Sig really fail a large amount of people off the behaviourals?

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Seems kind of mental that it's a full 3 hour shebang

tardy shell
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flying out for js final tmr, what do i do tn

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dont rlly wanan prep ngl

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do i just go out and talk to people

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is there any last minute things?

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someone tell me mamba mentality things

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idk

slate crown
tardy shell
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bruh

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mfs dnot be answering shit

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originally started ML amd then 3rd interview was qt

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nobody officially told me anything

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i emailed last week

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thuesday

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about whats up

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im not built for these facilities

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i wanna make models overfit to make them lose trillions

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not be number puncher on a keyboard

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and basically a csgo esports player

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yh in my reductive world view

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im just joking ill take anything i get

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except swe at quant

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im truly not built for that

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well i am info gapped and willingness gapped to grind leetcode to that level

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and build low level knowledge

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junior

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is that underclass?

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cs ee double

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math physics minors

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nah not from america

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i didnt do comp anything except tennis

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i like running around

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2nd phone they asked me what I wanted at js while i was coding in general. and I said I just wanna solve problems

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like idc what it is

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i like breaking systems apart and putting them together

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someone told me maybe that was a flag to move me over

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persionality fit

tardy shell
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yo someone kick him

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@split lintel

split lintel
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Fr bruh
I needed this

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Ye im cooked on fortnite

tardy shell
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Anyone got info on QRT

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QR intern

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They do 8 month internships

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Crazy

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But I don’t wanna be with French people in London of all places for 8 months

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Literally the worst of everything

mystic valve
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what's wrong with hanging with baguette people for 8 months in the greatest nation of the 17th century

tardy shell
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On the way to work I have to make sure I don’t stabbed or mugged and understand wtf they are saying and at work I have to listen to French people

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Ik how to speak French

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I refuse to out of principle

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I ask my manager for something and he’s gonna go on strike

midnight scroll
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you're very funny

tardy shell
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wats that

peak egret
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Anyone know of any places that do fall?

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Ik gts does

tardy shell
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bro im missing gts gpa requirement

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crazy

peak egret
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Tuff

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Just lie

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Wait bru doesn’t meet gpa req for gts but has js final

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Holy orz

tardy shell
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im right below 3.6

peak egret
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Bros cracked

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Gpa don’t mean jack tbh

tardy shell
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ong

peak egret
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As long as you’re not turbofailing

tardy shell
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i saw this small quant firm called trillium or something

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asking to 3.9+ from HYPSM

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and im like i get yall want the best of the best but thats insane

peak egret
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Yeah some of these places can get to be picky

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It is what it is

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

stiff elbow
tardy shell
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i might be confusing with another anme

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but it was something tiwht T

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it was like in july i saw it

peak egret
tardy shell
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it wasnt trillium

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but i cant find it

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it was a tiny tiny palce tho

grim sigil
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are u his spokesperson

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why

dire finch
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how long does he intend to stay in quant space

dire finch
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at minimum sheesh

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money driven or ego driven pursuit

dire finch
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ah

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shame

dire finch
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@lunar thicket this u? /sx

tardy shell
dire finch
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(ik lol codepath is cooked)

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it was just funny cuz florida

rain spear
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@tardy shell Guide me through your ways, 4.0 GPA, 0 internships for this summer 😔.

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Why can't one just be academically focused? One has to go through all the BS and politics of connections to get a job in this world.

dire finch
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chat why do you need to prove your business value to join a business

thin quest
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it's the real world, how you work with others is more important than whatever technical ability

dire finch
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i deleted my comment but yours still makes sense... fuck

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mated in 4

zenith whale
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if ur actually cracked at academics the connections come naturally

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but most ppl arent

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no knock on u btw

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but generally this is true

rain spear
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What do you mean mid at Academics bro?
Just being a little introverted, doesn't mean you're mid at academics.

zenith whale
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like ur not good enough to sit there and get recruited

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off academic prowess

rain spear
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Actually the contrapositive of the statement seems more likely

zenith whale
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i dont follow

dire finch
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if work directly translated to money, china would have #1 national gdp by a country mile

zenith whale
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like look

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the best cut of academics, say cs phds at t4 schools

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or whatever

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those guys arent worried at all about getting jobs

rain spear
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Again, you're mistaken here. I am not undermining people who go to t4 schools, but there are others in less known schools (for whatever reason) that are unknown geniuses to the world. I am talking about those.

dire finch
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yes yes einstein parable whatever

zenith whale
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i mean sure u have outlying cases

dire finch
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if they can't market themselves that's a personal fault

zenith whale
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but having a 4.0 gpa in undergrad

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doesnt mean ur an unknwon genius lol

rain spear
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Do you know how propositional statements work bro?

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You keep making implications that I didn't state

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Go find me where I said having a 4.0 gpa in undergrad makes you that

dire finch
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@zenith whale let me take a swing first

dire finch
zenith whale
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do u think unknown geniuses are going around complaining about not being able to find a job

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seems unlikely haha

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i dont know what we're arguing here really

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im just saying that people who typically pride themselves in being "academically focused"

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are usually not that good

dire finch
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he is indirectly arguing that academic acumen alone should be sufficient to get a job it seems

zenith whale
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tbh it is

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if you're good enough

dire finch
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which in 99% of circumstances it most definitely is, holding everything else at-par with the recruitment group

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(affability, cooperation, communication skills, etc)

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of course him complaining about this naturally means that he is not at-par with one or more of the above noninclusive soft skills

zenith whale
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academic acumen scales with communication/cooperation tbh, unless ur a theorist so many academic things are collaborative

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unless "academic acumen" here means "4.0 gpa in undergrad"

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in which case

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isnt that impressive lol

dire finch
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well especially if you're a theorist lol there's so many instances of theorists independently coming up with shit others have done decades ago

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(mostly with respect to experiment natural/social sciences <-> pure/applied math)

zenith whale
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fair

dire finch
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like biologists discovering the umpteenth power law in nature... orz

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this hoe been typing a response for 10 minutes it better be good

rain spear
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I won't talk about myself here because you guys seem to be biased and have problems with separating personal experiences from stereotypes.

I met this one guy x in my stats course in Turkey. He seemed to be really intelligent with the brain teasers we had and the hard probablilty questions that require a lot of intuition. By the way, this is an extremely prestigious university in the country, and many are olympiad medalists/ High SAT score acheivers. He's doing well academically and doing a double major. Again, I don't know US standards, but this by no means an easy university, and having a 3.9-4.0 GPA is actually impressive. It means you got through first year physics and calculus courses with an A, which is again hard because courses are evaluated on a curve, so only a small percentage of the already competitve class gets an A, and the questions are mostly olympiad level, especially in first year, to weed out incompetent people. The guy I was talking about has zero internships experience. He barely has a proper linkedin profile, mostly antisocial, but I know for a fact, he is a genius. He got almost full marks on exams which I know are really hard in the UNI, and I don't care to prove that for you because I can't. This guy is mostly gonna settle for a low level software job in Turkey because, as I said, he hasn't built himself in the way the world expects him to be. If I were to bet, he'd be an excellent candidate for a quant job, and mostly likely in the top 1% of students studying at IVY Leagues because most people at this university had to stay in the country for reasons, privileged americans, won't understand. I personally had to decline an offer at the highest ranking university in Canada because of visa issues.

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He's a national mathematics olympiad medalist by the way.

dire finch
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i think expecting totally fair allocation of talent like that is both a fundamental misunderstanding of success and willful [oversight] of real world mechanisms

spiral rivet
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lol if he’s an imo medalist he should have no problem getting qt interviews

zenith whale
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this can be simultaneously true with what i said

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also if hes truly a genius surely people are vouching for him

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like if ur some +3sd mf at some no name undergrad, profs want you

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ah misread

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"extremely prestigious university"

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this guy will get interviews then lol

spiral rivet
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no offense but are there rlly any extremely prestigious universities in turkey that recruiters would know abt

dire finch
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"This guy is mostly gonna settle for a low level software job in Turkey because, as I said, he hasn't built himself in the way the world expects him to be."

as unfortunate as it might be that his talent may go unused, it's but a consequence of social network topology. a single node with small outdegree, even with high amplitude, will have no effect on overall network consensus; this is of course regarding his ability to market his skillset and influence those around him

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even the most turboneet quants here at princeton proactively do research, perform at events and competitions, etc..

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the ability to grasp already-solved problems in itself is zero alpha for pushing the frontier of human knowledge, enterpreneurship, etc

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even if those problems are olympiad level or whatever

rain spear
# zenith whale this guy will get interviews then lol

I've said multiple times now. We both went to the same university in Turkey - Prestigious in Turkey. He has a high GPA, which I knows says a lot, but people outside the country, will laugh it off like you. His resume would literally be empty if he doesn't bullsh*t, and recruiters, if they think like you, will brush it off immediately, just as you are. Just putting medals at national olympiad competitions would not even impress international recruiters.

dire finch
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why would his resume be empty

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has he no personal projects, research, papers, clubs

zenith whale
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how can you claim to be academically strong just doing undergrad classes

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like im unconvinced

dire finch
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i am likewise unconvinced that someone so academically strong does fuck all outside of classes and has nothing to put on a resume

rain spear
zenith whale
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i mean

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ur literally flexing first year course performance

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like almost every undergrad in my class of qrs

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took a full suite of grad classes

dire finch
#

^

zenith whale
#

and have 3.9+s

dire finch
#

in any case that's not even the strongest argument presented

zenith whale
#

yes

zenith whale
#

on top of actual research published at top confs/journals

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maybe some intl medals

dire finch
#

why is his resume empty

zenith whale
#

and even then 30% of people get fired

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because theyre not a good fit

zenith whale
#

this jsut feels like a +2sd kid doing reasonably well at his uni and is otherwise not really applying himself

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when firms are looking for +3/4sd people

rain spear
dire finch
rain spear
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Publishing research papers at top conferences is full of politics and connections, which I doubt he's gone through. I might be wrong, but that's only from what I know about him.

zenith whale
#

how

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its double blind haha

dire finch
#

no personal projects?

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no clubs?

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what the fuck

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there are so many ways to carry without "bs politics" if you're >2sd

rain spear
# zenith whale its double blind haha

being a genius doesn't mean you'll go publishing papers directly at top conferences. you have to build experience and connections with professors. You won't jump on a paper alone all of a sudden, which even requires a different set of skills.

rain spear
dire finch
#

guess which of those skills are employable...

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you guessed it the part where you talk to people and understand what's going on before contributing

zenith whale
#

i.e., john nash, persi diaconis

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fyi persi literally lived on a boat, then went to city college of new york and got a D in calculus II

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but because he was a 4sd genius

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he got a great rec to harvard

rain spear
dire finch
#

"I've noticed you're quite smart. Would you like some supplemental work outside of class?"

zenith whale
#

its fun

dire finch
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i'm stuck in lecture and have nothing better to do man

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sadge

zenith whale
#

im watching singles inferno

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std dev

rain spear
zenith whale
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yeah so why are u so convinced hes a genius then haha

dire finch
#

again i really don't see how that's a failure of society

zenith whale
#

he just seems like a typical smart guy

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who doesnt apply himself

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there are a lot of people like that

dire finch
#

no the average american is really stupid iwl

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as an american i say this

zenith whale
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average american cant count

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980 sat or smth

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u get 800 for putting ur name?

dire finch
#

400

zenith whale
#

oh

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yeah the average is 980 i think

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median

dire finch
#

whatever it's really bad yeah

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most can't read at a high school level

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most can't do calculus

zenith whale
#

nah

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i think this guy A_A is describing is like

dire finch
#

the average smart american kid got to calculus AB in high school

zenith whale
#

decently impressive

dire finch
#

chinese high schoolers take that in grade 9

rain spear
#

Okay, whatever... For you, it is a random guy on discord, and you're too oblivious to actually consider that this happens.

zenith whale
#

but not good enough to just sleepwalk his way into top places just by being smart

zenith whale
#

but life isnt over because u cant work in quant

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if ur a smart guy youll figure it out

dire finch
zenith whale
#

first job doesnt rly matter anyway

dire finch
#

it's like hilariously stupid to assume your 3sd IQ -2sd EQ friend will make it

zenith whale
#

like why is it a failure of society to scour the entire planet in search to find these 2sd iq lazy people

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when there are 3sd driven people running around

dire finch
#

oh was 3 too generous

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if he's topping in physics let's cut him a little slack

zenith whale
#

haha sure but the point stands right

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there are enough equally high iq people who apply themselves

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and conditioned on u not applying urself, ur prob not that great to work with

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or easy to train

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yeah now if ur like

rain spear
#

What universities do you guys go to?

zenith whale
#

insanely cracked, its diff

dire finch
#

standard deviation (of iq)

zenith whale
#

like u can make usamo + go to mit

dire finch
#

no but quant directly filters for iq

zenith whale
#

and then just goon ur 4 years there

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and not get a job

dire finch
zenith whale
dire finch
#

unfortunate

zenith whale
#

its not a failure of society that he cant get a job because he refuses to apply himself

dire finch
#

i did first two years of college with undiagnosed mental condition and i still made it

zenith whale
#

in a vacuum usamo + mit and above is still hella people

dire finch
#

i dont consider myself too smart

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it's largely a function of effort and people skills

zenith whale
#

yeah im pretty fuckign stupid lol

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was like 70th percentile in grad classes at best

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sometimes median

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but marketing well gets u places

rain spear
#

This is my main point, I'm mostly bad with people, marketing, connections, etc.. And the world punishes too much for it.

zenith whale
#

how is this a punishment though

dire finch
#

you are bad at playing the game and you blame the game?

zenith whale
#

this is like saying oh im really smart but i cant get onto an nba team

dire finch
#

surely this is counterintuitive

zenith whale
#

most of these quant places r super collaborative

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being decent with people is required

dire finch
#

maybe "oh im really smart but i shut down under pressure and can't talk in front of people" is better

zenith whale
#

im reading this as like

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him being mad he cant get into quant

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he mentioned quant a few times above

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so im assumign thsi is the case idk

dire finch
#

i read it as he has terrible people skills and blames the job market (in general)

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if it's about quant then whatever

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the generalized argument applies

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if people think you're a dick you will not be hired

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by asian principle there is an asian guy or girl smarter than you and they will hire them instead

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(in short there is literally zero reason for "intelligence" to be the only selling point you have)

zenith whale
#

yes this is the key takeaway imo

dire finch
#

you really can't be complaining about shit in turkey when you have people from pakistan, philippines, egypt, etc. making it

zenith whale
#

the hard pill to swallow is that ur not good enough to get anything u want off being smart alone haha

rain spear
#

Alright

dire finch
peak egret
#

WHAT THE HELL IS A STABLE CURRENCY RAAAH 🇪🇬 🇪🇬

dire finch
#

WHAT THE FUCK IS A COPTIC RAHHHHHH

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(tl note: not egyptian)

tranquil wagon
#

Being good with people is a requirement everywhere that you’d want to be

peak egret
#

copts are christians in egypt that were around before the arabs took over

rose holly
zenith whale
#

this isnt even true tbh

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even most ppl at schools like mit arent smart enough to sleepwalk into top places off academic prowess alone

untold prawn
peak egret
#

also, these are all definitely things that you can work and improve on

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i used to be a piece of wet cardboard freshman year, definitely way more comfortable now

hardy marsh
#

when did de shaw nexus even open

tardy shell
#

GTS applied without 3.6

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lets see what happens

peak egret
#

They usually respond p quick

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I applied for smth last year and they rejected me after 5 days lol

tardy shell
#

yh im gonna get rej just off gpa

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kinda stupid but wtv

spiral rivet
tardy shell
spiral rivet
#

asking to see what i might have a chance at

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oh fuck

tardy shell
#

Went below 3.6 last sem

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Cuz stuff

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But yh

spiral rivet
#

does citadel have minimum gpa cutoff

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and would it be more lenient if it is trading invitational program?

untold prawn
hardy marsh
#

guys as a sophomore who will be targeting interviews this summer whats a good quant research/trading interview prep roadmap --

Im guessing I need to target:
prob, combinatorics, leetcode (algo probs), Mental Math, Brain Teasers/Game Theory, ML Basics?

My ultimate goal is quant research. For those who have done QT/QR interviews and have prepped for them is that list right?

Also, what resources are recommended to target these topics? I have heard abt greenbook for prob/combo, zetamac for mental math, but what other resources do you guys recommend. It all feels like a lot so if I can narrow the amnt of resources needed that would be great.

Thanks!

tardy shell
#

anyone know when they tell you decision after js final

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is it day off?

peak egret
#

howd it go?

tardy shell
#

im here rn

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idk i start in like 20 mins

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im just doing hw rn before we start

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got a midterm on thursday

peak egret
#

oh lol

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gl boss o7 u got this

vast relic
hazy hawk
#

How is cit swe oa

dire finch
#

dp backtracking

tardy shell
#

Just got told by end of the day or tmr at max

tranquil wagon
sweet forge
#

does baruch mean much for quant undergrad?

tardy shell
#

how tf are we supposed to make polls

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oh nbm

halcyon zealot
#

qr?

tardy shell
#

it is qr but the big tech role is like applied science

near nymph
tardy shell
tardy shell
#

no

lethal apex
#

not surprising but you’ll be around hypsm grads, that’s worth more than big tech

sterile sky
#

how hard is it breaking into qt ~2 years out of grad with no internships. am i cooked

fresh swallow
tardy shell
fresh swallow
#

Good

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swe at gts is 🥜

sterile sky
fresh swallow
#

You're cooked

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Unless you want to go get a phd

sterile sky
#

damn

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thats so tough

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thought that was only the case for top firms

fresh swallow
#

What do you do right now

sterile sky
#

swe

fresh swallow
#

doing what

sterile sky
#

infra/pipeline stuff

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not quant dev

fresh swallow
#

Maybe you could get a masters in something relevant and get a quantitative job at a bank

sterile sky
#

then go to qt? or still cooked

fresh swallow
#

Idk

sterile sky
#

damn

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wb usamo qual

midnight scroll
#

go work faang then swe at firm then qt

untold prawn
sterile sky
#

nah just amo no hm

untold prawn
#

yeah not useful

sterile sky
#

really

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damn what i do that for then

untold prawn
#

you're alr out of school is the problem

sterile sky
#

yeah im c/o '24

untold prawn
#

yeah that's cooked

sterile sky
#

tuffff

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is it cuz of hc?

untold prawn
#

wdym by hc

sterile sky
#

why they no hire if not ng

untold prawn
#

there's just no reason to

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there's so much fresh talent they can get

sterile sky
#

thats fair

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ig everyones applying

untold prawn
#

if u didn't want to go back to school then qd -> qt through internal transfer could work

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but i know nothing about the feasibility of that so ymmv

sterile sky
#

yeah im planning on a masters

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could it reset when im doing my masters then?

untold prawn
#

yeah prolly

sterile sky
#

fire

untold prawn
#

but if not top school then prolly cooked

sterile sky
#

maybe not fire

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thanks for the help @untold prawn @midnight scroll @fresh swallow

peak egret
midnight scroll
#

Why wouldn't it?

fresh swallow
midnight scroll
#

If you thought you didn’t have the right academic background to make it as a trader, think again. In the digital age, finance is becoming increasingly technology- and data-driven. As the roles of traders, engineers and researchers converge, the trading floor is drawing in ambitious graduates from a wide range of subjects. But don’t take our word...

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obviously a bit of an optiver fluff piece but

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

fresh swallow
#

Maybe then

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But I wouldn't advise someone in a well paying big tech swe role to go chasing this

#

Odds of you doing that successfully are super low and firm dependent clearly

midnight scroll
#

ya

peak egret
#

its possible just really hard ofc

lethal apex
unreal swift
#

anyone know if js blacklists

tardy shell
#

What’s sig qt ft tc

#

Getting rlly conflicting answers

#

I’m seeing anywhere from 350 to 500

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And that doesn’t seem right

tardy shell
#

Dm me

dire arrow
#

then performance based bonus

tardy shell
#

400 base?

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ok thanks so much

dire arrow
tardy shell
tardy shell
#

If someone else knows that would help

gilded jacinth
#

got those w 3.5 for qt

tardy shell
#

Same

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I’ve seen it as well

drowsy shell
tardy shell
#

I’ve seen people fuck up phone and not get called again

drowsy shell
#

rip yeah idk about phone

tardy shell
#

I got to round before final for qt last year and they reinterviewed

tranquil wagon
tranquil wagon
gilded jacinth
#

meant interviews big bro 😦

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not offers

tardy shell
#

i mean im assuming he had a 3.5 when he applied as wlel

tardy shell
#

bruh my friend got sig qt oa is it auto?

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this late in the year is crazy

sleek smelt
#

it is auto

tardy shell
#

im p sure i got 1 wrong and moved to the next round, ill do his mocks how many wrong can he get

#

i remember the questions more or less as well

#

his resume should be good enough imo but who knows with these companies

fresh swallow
#

In nyc with 400k you're any random mf in philly with 400k you'd be big dog

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plus bonus

tranquil wagon
fresh swallow
#

nyc has such a high population of finance, tech, and trust fund havers

#

Always a ton of bigger fish

dire arrow
late root
tardy shell
#

yall hating on the city of brotherly love

late root
#

Yeah im kidding wanna visit it tbh

gaunt cloak
#

guys how does one push quant

peak egret
#

res screen is after

#

i keep passing sig oas then getting rejected after res screen 🥲

gaunt cloak
#

how do you pass res screen for these quant places

#

what do they want to see

dire arrow
#

the screen deadass the easiest part

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i passed a few with nothing

tardy shell
#

yh but youre lwk built diff

dire arrow
#

dont punch down

peak egret
#

bc ive only passed citsec

dire arrow
#

oh r u swe

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swe screen way harder

#

i go to shitter

peak egret
#

i mean im just gunning for both

peak egret
fresh swallow
#

With that kind of comp you could open up your own bar too that has whatever you're missing from nyc

unreal swift
tardy shell
#

uhh can we still trade personal stocks as a quant intern?

#

this might be a dumb question

#

but like i wanna know if i need to start planning for this

late root
#

Depends on company i think

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Ik squarepoint doesnt let you trade at all

tardy shell
#

whoever has gotten past sig qt oa was big tech internship enough?

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and incoming at zon

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acc at zon now i guess

tardy shell
#

oh no!!!! what will i do now

#

dang they had to do it twice

#

i genuinely wonder what these firms look for

#

mf need someone to be curing stock market cancer

peak egret
#

LOL

#

yeah idek man

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some combo of school + prev prestige

tardy shell
#

im assuming they only take like 10 interns and those people are alr picked before job posting is even open

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cuz otherwise what is this

heavy palm
tardy shell
heavy palm
#

I guess they just want to meet their hiring quotas

peak egret
#

gts is a small firm though no?

tardy shell
#

is it prestigious?

peak egret
#

idk

#

who cares about prestige get the bag bro

tardy shell
#

well bag just rejected me

peak egret
#

😔

#

dont you have like 2 qt offers already bro

tardy shell
#

its just i get irritated when companies reject me without interviewing

#

ugh whatever

#

its irrational

#

ik im qualified for the interview at least

peak egret
#

lol just got rej too

tardy shell
#

yh what kinda bs

#

i just dont meet gpa req

#

bro has incoming js and incoming cit and you wont interview

#

stupid shit

#

whatever

peak egret
#

issok gang

#

js and cit mog gts anyways

tardy shell
#

ong

thin quest
#

what is harvard trading comp lik

fresh swallow
#

You're telling me it's not solely Viktoria anymore

fresh swallow
#

It's like 5 or 6 iirc

#

You don't want to work for a firm where the CEO/founder is a dork who wears sneakers with bored apes painted on them anyway

empty citrus
#

Yo

#

anyone done 2 sigma final behavioural?

#

dm me

halcyon zealot
#

how tower is paying 1300 weekly

tardy shell
#

literal scam bro

thin quest
#

In ny 😂😂😂

tardy shell
#

and they still only gonna take harvard kids

#

bastards

dire finch
#

5.2k / mo?

tardy shell
#

yh this has to be wrong right

#

like otherwise someone is getting fucked here

dire finch
#

maybe they typo'd 1300 for 2300

thin quest
#

building businesses for 5k a month

lucid cloak
#

idr exactly but i think its close w faang swe

shut sparrow
#

I guess cfaang > tower

thin quest
#

I've heard tower is super grindy

lucid cloak
#

we can ask mr big chest to confirm

tardy shell
#

so basically if you do this youre fucked?

#

like this isnt even quant

#

youre just on some weird vc thing?

#

nyc with that pay is actually tragic

#

better have a 15k sign on or somerthing

#

or free housing

#

cuz wtf

#

he thought

#

and hes gone

#

andrew can you mentor me

#

tell me how to say your quotes bro

#

i need to get to that lefvel

#

i wish someone would interview me ngl i have many things to say

#

after my 4 midterms next week

#

project euler start

#

i had one today

#

mfs were chatgpting in it

#

im too dumb to cheat man

#

wtf

#

shouldve cheated and now im gonna be cooked

#

it was open book open notes so i thought he meant physical notes and book

#

i printed out 30 pages worth of notes

#

go into exam hall and most of the people had their laptops out

#

wtf

#

i got cooked

#

i got stoch calc next week i cant wait

#

im about to fuck up the curve for these hoes in that class

#

3,56 but i was 3.78 before last sem

#

smh

#

i missed so many assingments in nov

#

and oct

#

my grad gpa is 4.0 tho

#

so idc ngl

#

and my major gpa is 3.9 sumn

#

yh i took digital sys design and advanced dig sys design

#

i remember optiver wanted me for fpga cuz they come and recruit for that from here every spring

#

i was like fuck no

#

im not donig that shit

#

do i look like a nerd

#

i dont hate fpga but i dont wanna do it for a living

#

man i do look like a nerd nothing i can do

#

im taking ekectromechanics this sem

#

getting cooked

#

ngl

#

that exam next week about to assault me

#

its fine time to pull out the adhd card and get the exam moved

#

i got 3 midterms in one day anyway its against the constitution

tardy shell
#

yh its that and semiconductors for ee

#

im genuinely dead

#

ive burnt my fingers a couple times already

#

but its fine this weekend

#

we forget it all

#

and party like its 1999

tardy shell
#

yh i love it so far tho i have heavy physics background so none of it is particularly new

#

but everyone around me is struggling

#

so its irritating

#

prof slows down

#

someone tell me if this is good

#

this is an intro stoch calc class

#

we are having exam 1 next week

#

and it aint rlly been that bad ngl

#

is this below par?

#

this is first sem its being run as well and its an elective

peak egret
#

my stochastics class is way less than that damn

tardy shell
#

i doubt we will finish everything ngl

peak egret
#

it does seem like a lot ig

#

though my class isnt stochastic "calc" its stochastic processes

tardy shell
#

ill update after exam next friday

peak egret
#

idk how much of a difference that makes

tardy shell
#

yh the class someone would take after this would be stoch processes

peak egret
#

oh weird

#

bc this is the intro class

tardy shell
#

honestly idk this is experimental so things are changing

#

i just took it cuz im a tier 1 experimental class taker

#

ive taken so many for the cs dept

#

they should give me a medal

peak egret
#

why the hell is a stochastics class under your cs dept 💀

tardy shell
#

VR, Stoch Calc, Measure Theory, Quantum Networks

tardy shell
#

mostly meant for the ds people but cs can take it as well

peak egret
#

ah ic

tardy shell
#

ong i only tok VR hoping i could work on oculus at meta or apple vision pro

#

but @tranquil wagon beat me to it

#

smh

#

wtf for cs??

#

damn

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ohh