#quants-n-traders

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last rune
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whats the "easiest" one to get into

neon mirage
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no idea tbh its probably some not very well known firms

last rune
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swe

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do all quant firms require C++ in interview?

lucid cloak
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exoduspoint mogs

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valk mogs

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they had coding jesus

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garden leave?

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dk

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mogs day traders prolly

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no shot

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tomer is replacement for godbolt?

dire finch
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about as revealing as a "nursing isnt for everybody" or "investment banking isnt for everybody" type of thing

deep cargo
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He shits on randoms which I don’t like

strange loom
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bad taste imo

hazy hawk
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What's tqd

stone vector
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i can invite you if you want

near nymph
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im putting incoming @ tqd on the resume

lucid cloak
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u should send it here so we can all join tqd

lethal apex
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We lied to ya’ll

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There is no discord server

midnight scroll
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Tomer at aquatic would be hilarious

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His resume reviews will go from 350 an hour to 500

low vault
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Fair enough

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I guess in low level programming you still need various abstractions :p

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One of my professors complained about how rust is bad for writing concurrent code lololol

hardy marsh
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where does tomer work

rose holly
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who is tomer

hardy marsh
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the coding jesus

hardy marsh
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oh shit

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btw hows wlb at aquatic curious

hardy marsh
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ive stalked, i dont think so...

willow marsh
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any hrt interns know when team matching starts

hazy hawk
dire arrow
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slide a young ngmi one too

blazing cedar
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What do people usually do during the non-compete year?

rose holly
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only good server is my server hehe

hazy hawk
zenith panther
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oh coding jesus

zenith panther
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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it's true

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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it's a good language tho

dire arrow
opal ivy
pulsar scarab
untold prawn
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is this for qt/qr? bc idt they're picky for swe

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no he thinks linkedins are bad

neon mirage
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tomer == coding jesus?

lucid cloak
untold prawn
zenith panther
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super true... stanford = auto admit to cit 💀

lethal apex
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was he a trader before?

lucid cloak
fresh swallow
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Know a guy who got to final at JS for new grad swe with zero internship exp

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Just math major

lethal apex
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people be telling these stories and then you do more research and it’s like

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Oh btw he got USAMO gold

fresh swallow
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Nah very normal dude

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Bro wasn't cracked he ended up working at GTS

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lol

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For swe it's terrible

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I don't know what they paid quants

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UT/UMich type school

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No

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Normal dude bro

zenith panther
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wtf

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js swe interviews are kinda hard to get

fresh swallow
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They just be fucking with math majors ig

left otter
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the questions seem easy (nothing incredibly algorithmically hard ime + from what i've heard), but their bar for your answers are very high

undone estuary
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that is very rng

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u can ace all and still get rej, happened to me

dry elbow
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What are the easiest quantitative firms to get into for non-Ivy League MS CS students with some work experience?

zenith panther
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idk actually

spiral rivet
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Does anyone know anything about squarepoint capital and its reputation?

spiral rivet
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us, QT

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any idea how it compares to IMC, Optiver, etc?

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I had someone tell me they had an offer from squarepoint for QT intern paying 120/hr base thats why i was asking

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which sounded too high to be true

dreamy warren
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how doable is faang -> qt

spiral rivet
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depends if you're amazon or google

dreamy warren
spiral rivet
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and target school

low vault
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did you get all the way to the end 👀 I actually only got all the way to the end for one of the interviews lol pog

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I recall that they had like basically endless parts for the questions, which was kinda whack tbh

dire finch
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anyone read deepseek r1 paper yet

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r1 few shot prompting degrading performance and r1 < v3 in some general performance tasks is kind of neat

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probably shits itself when reward isn't immediate / reward is unclear from prompt

rose holly
low vault
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dam....

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thats acc crazy

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maybe i was just really nervous during the final but i found getting through the parts pretty difficult, so now it feels surprising that I even passed given that I didn't finish all of the parts

hot mica
low vault
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tq deez nuts

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oh

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yeah i yap a ton

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i love yapping

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tbh yapping does slow you down tho, so if your goal was to solve evertyhing you should minimize it sometimes

fresh swallow
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Talking more is always good

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You should always talk through your full thought processes

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That's always been my strategy and I've always gotten good feedback about it + passed coding screens I felt I did poorly on

snow atlas
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anybody take the optiver futurefocus technical?

spiral rivet
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on optiver's website, it says that if you've already taken the OA in the last 8 months, it will not resend another OA

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does that mean that if i mess the futurefocus OA up, then if I want to apply to the actual QT internship, my futurefocus OA score will be used?

tranquil wagon
rough plume
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hello

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how. can i make 70k out of college

terse kindle
tranquil wagon
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Some kind of programming and you need to talk to an interviewer

grim sigil
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netflix mle > quant researcher

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thoughts?

dire arrow
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is sig discovery day auto

mellow aurora
thin quest
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damn errbody got it

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not going

red edge
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Anyone have advice for optiver qt intern behavioral?

dire arrow
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I thought i was special

mellow aurora
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"after reviewing hundreds of applications!"

mellow aurora
storm igloo
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when prepping for quant dev for the next few months, what should i prioritize learning more? OS, Comp Arch, Networking? Not sure which to start first (current junior but havnt taken these classes yet so i wanna buy some books and learn)

neon mirage
neon mirage
mellow aurora
gleaming mauve
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You wannabe quants are so prestige hungry. If a cohort doesn't have a .5% acceptance rate you don't wanna attend it's crazy

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Live life and learn buddy

storm igloo
storm igloo
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Any comp arch book recs?

rough plume
floral salmon
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rob a bank

rough plume
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can you help

gleaming mauve
rough plume
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What is McFAANG? I see everyone talking about that and how it’s “WAGMI” can someone explain?

neon mirage
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Wagmi. We are going to miss it

hardy marsh
sharp pendant
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Guido_Trevisan — Oggi alle 19:26
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sharp pendant
low vault
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I feel like you might as well take it if you can

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if you're going down that route

north meadow
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I have a "Data Science and Visualization" interview at Optiver anyone know anything about it

fresh swallow
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This isn't a required course for you? WazowskiStare

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Are you not a cs major

strange loom
dire arrow
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everyone got auto I think

frail rover
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anyone gone through the five rings new grad process that would be interested in chatting?

tranquil wagon
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@split lintel can u delete this

low vault
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cat_love nw

hardy marsh
harsh blaze
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honest question guys. I am a junior with an incoming internship at faang (google/netflix).

Is it too late for me to aim for quant trader? I know there is some quant coop in fall.

I took probability classes and did really good. Also I go to target school

untold prawn
tranquil wagon
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Pretty sure js mainly does off season for loo

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Ur a junior now or you’ll be a junior next season

harsh blaze
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Is it over chat

tranquil wagon
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But ur choice is probably more limited

deep cargo
harsh blaze
deep cargo
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They only hire previous qt interns

tranquil wagon
harsh blaze
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Alright let’s say swe

deep cargo
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Nor do companies do off-season qt internships

harsh blaze
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Which firms hire new grad swe

tranquil wagon
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Just look at LinkedIn

deep cargo
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JS and Jump less so but still do

harsh blaze
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But I thought those are basically fake as they only take return intern

deep cargo
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It’s rare but possible

harsh blaze
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Or ppl with prior experience at another quant

deep cargo
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Esp if ur doing systems/cpp

harsh blaze
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No I am doing ml at faang

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I am planning for master also

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But I heard they don’t take master

deep cargo
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Why ru worrying

harsh blaze
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Yeah but I would not be bachelor

ruby ravine
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just apply!! it’s not something you need to spend a lot of time optimizing for

deep cargo
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They take both

harsh blaze
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Oh shit

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Alright then

stiff elbow
brisk ingot
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i would argue the amt of ng qt's that dont have qt intern exp is so low its practically impossible

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but ig sure there are some exceptions

lucid cloak
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ik someone w none of those n still got qt ng at a good firm (super rare tho

spiral garden
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js only really hires qt ng from intern and i assume other firms too unless they have a strong reason to think you would be good at trading

harsh blaze
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is it lowkey js fall only hires from loo

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even for fall swe internship?

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if so why post at all

brisk ingot
low vault
hazy hawk
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Do any quants blacklist for dev position (not trader) out of curiosity

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Oh by 1 yr is it just like e.g. Optiver saying "you have a year cooldown / won't be considered till next cycle"

fresh swallow
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I've said in here before but a friend of mine got to final round at JS for new grad swe with no internships in college whatsoever

topaz hazel
cursive granite
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f sheeet

thin quest
tranquil wagon
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How many new grad swes does HRT take compared to intern?

low vault
low vault
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I know >=1 hrt ng

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yeah this year i think

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25 grad

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nah

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I feel like this idea that quant companies necessarily require notable companies to pass screen is not true

tranquil wagon
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I’ll just work for walmart then every company will have no choice but to give me an offer

brisk ingot
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i know atleast 1 this cycle, but they were also ex quant

grim sigil
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cfaang changed my life

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Best company imo

pallid berry
dire finch
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that's a big number

deep cargo
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<@&868936794601828492>

split lintel
dire finch
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cringe resume format

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would not be surprised if your resume isn't getting parsed properly

near nymph
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putting high school valedictorian and "highest sat score" is fucking crazy lmao

low vault
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Might be worthwhile to give a blurb on some of the more relevant awards (like math contests)

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I doubt recruiters would know much more than Putnam, ICPC, etc

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You should also do Putnam if you’re a math major, if you can get T500 which is def a resume boost

mellow aurora
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misspelling quantitative is a surefire way to look either stupid or lazy

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shit

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nobody look at the edit

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but yeah you can't be misspelling words in your resume

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cit cares about sat

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but yeah lame to have on res

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also your second project looks kind of weak

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it reads like all you're doing is calculating metrics about a portfolio?

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oh my god

thin quest
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Semi-Finalist btw

fresh swallow
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Bro playing roblox WazowskiStare

grave geyser
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does having your SAT help if you have no competition math/coding experience and good internships?

grave geyser
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damn 1570 not good enough?

supple sun
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Is this for qt/qr or also for swe

grave geyser
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nah ngl fucked up one question

dire finch
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not 800... orz

supple sun
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Figured

dire finch
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i didnt know ppl still put sat/act on resjme

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scourge of humanity

dire arrow
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but like once u have some real exp FOH widdat shit

zenith panther
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no

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dont put it on

mystic valve
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does USACO gold and AIME help on resume

dire finch
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does nobel peace prize help on resume

tranquil wagon
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Classic andrew gatekeeping smh

tranquil wagon
mystic valve
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squilliam lin

mystic valve
tranquil wagon
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Are you happy @split lintel

gleaming mauve
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but sat barely helps

grim sigil
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ngl i think it's good to recognize that you're stupid, even if you got 800M who gives a shit, that's top 2%? think about how many thousands of people got the exact same score, it's not special.

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also i don't really believe in perfect SAT scores as a meaningful indicator of anything tbh. Like 1550, 1600 same shit different day.

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just a little bit of luck, the right set of questions, etc.

grave geyser
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yea it is free

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i made a dumb mistake

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still remember the problem it was some triangle bs

rose holly
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what backup are the qt focused ppl having in mind?

rose holly
rose holly
tranquil wagon
rose holly
grave geyser
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trading or big tech swe

tranquil wagon
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Like do a masters or phd

lavish swift
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anyone do the valkyrie bootcamp interview?

fresh swallow
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I don't think a missed a single english question either time I took the ACT lol

rose holly
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i guess you can go back to school

tranquil wagon
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Like anyone else who gets fired

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Like at a different firm

crimson ridge
rose holly
zenith whale
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just bad career decision to continue

rose holly
zenith whale
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sure

lime zealot
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< 1 year means he didn't even collect bonus

brisk ingot
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100%

ruby fog
ruby fog
quasi orbit
dire finch
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fired after 8 months yikes

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5r hit a false positive

strange loom
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So what are some of the reasons people get fired in quant?

dire finch
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sucking

zenith whale
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can also just be unlucky

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happens more than you think

cursive granite
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sucking

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real

near nymph
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being a ng at imc/optiver

strange loom
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honestly quant sounds like a toxic industry

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prob team dependent tho ig

dire arrow
atomic roost
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How common is quant SWE NG January start dates?

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Curious abt next cycle and optimizing grad date

cursive granite
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what if i underperform in a quant, should i be fired?

brisk ingot
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so shouldn't be an issue

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december grad date still also means u can start august the following year, so not really +/- ev either way

low vault
low citrus
stone vector
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in a different server not very related to this one

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this guy lasted for only 9 months so bro didn't even earn a bonus

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why is bro self employed for 4 years though

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even if he's a bad quant who only lasted for 9 months he was at five rings

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shouldn't have that much trouble finding another job

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tbh could be other reasons

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can't assume

rose holly
rose holly
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do you know any ppl who got fired and then picked up again?

stone vector
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he was at 5 rings lol

rose holly
stone vector
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so once you got fired you're done?

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like your career in quant is over?

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i mean im not well versed in quant lol

rose holly
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i mean i've seen profiles that reentered the industry

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but i think those are outliers

stone vector
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HAP?

rose holly
stone vector
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dang

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so once you exit it's permanent that's crazy

rose holly
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either you have it or you don't

stone vector
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well people get fired all the times though

rose holly
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if you don't other companies don't want to waste resources on you

rose holly
stone vector
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damn

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i would've thought it's like

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5 rings bar is just high

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he can't manage

rose holly
stone vector
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but that doesn't mean he can't manage at less prestigious / lower bar firms

stone vector
spiral rivet
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probably lost like a billion dollars or something and got blacklisted from industry😂

rose holly
# stone vector he can't manage

hm i feel like for ft the bars are very similar, thats why js basically never fires (for return interns), 5r fired 2 ppl in the last 7 years, imc fired ~40%, Optiver >50%, SIG ~33% all in one class

rose holly
ruby fog
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yo

rose holly
ruby fog
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yea

rose holly
ruby fog
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i’ll dm

crimson ridge
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5r internship is like js where they already get interns competing each other so getting busted after 9 months without interning b4 likely means not good enuf

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Iirc js hires 90-100 trading interns and select top 20 in trading games. 5R QRs also participates in the games and i think they get judged as well — notice how all the 5R QR interns have the same exp. descriptions

dire finch
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mit phd -> 5r qr intern -> goldball sacks... orz

crimson ridge
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Quant is wayy to competitive my QR friend working at 2sigma leaves after 2.5 years the moment he gets married and set linkedin profile: do not want to work in finance

dire finch
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sounds about right

fresh swallow
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lol

fresh swallow
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I interviewed with them for a swe job lol

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Back when I was unemployed

stone vector
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47% return on 10k doesn't matter

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47% return on 1 mil matters

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also if he does well he get a bonus

fresh swallow
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47% return on 10k is 5k

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I guess it depends what kind of time he is devoting to this

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but I would be happy to get an extra paycheck out of investing 10k

dire arrow
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i mean return without sharpe is a useless metric

mellow aurora
dire arrow
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isnt fv = pv*(1+r)^n

fresh swallow
cloud root
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yurrrrr

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wsg twin

cloud root
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dumbass

fresh swallow
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Don't even know what that means boss I'm not a nerd

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I just write code

cloud root
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not a nerd, write code?

mellow aurora
cloud root
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let N be the prob hes a nerd and C the prob he codes, if C is given as C =1 then
P[N|C] = P[N], that would be the case if they were independent however theres a almost one to one correlation between coding and being a nerd, therefore P[N|C] = 1

neon mirage
cloud root
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i wouldnt know either im a trader not a nerd

fresh swallow
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Your nerdy joke would be funnier if you actually used proper grammar while typing it

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Mixing the two kind of ruins your delivery there

cloud root
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idk good grammar

fresh swallow
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I have never met a trader that wasn't a nerd

cloud root
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im not a trader i lied

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wait where did i mess up my grammar

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like jokes aside

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i dont see it

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is it one too one?

fresh swallow
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"theres a almost"

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??

mellow aurora
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bro

cloud root
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ah

mellow aurora
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he forgot one letter n

cloud root
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i see

mellow aurora
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wait

cloud root
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yea theres an almost

fresh swallow
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I mean that's just the most glaring

cloud root
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i mean yea

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its bad grammar bc i was just making shit up as i went

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there was no plan for the sentence thus no sentence structure

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yea

dire finch
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spelling mistake is actually just fishing for alpha

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if u have good error correction it is a sign of high brain rot

fresh swallow
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Elaborate

strange loom
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bad handwriting can mean more creative etc

cloud root
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yea

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ppl w bad handwriting is usually for one of 2 reasons

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1 theyre just lazy or are stupid

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2 they think too fast for their own good and just mess up their handwriting trying to keep up w what theyre thinking

dire arrow
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weak signal imo

cloud root
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nah

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its a signal

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but just a signal isnt much

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if you dont have rm, pos sizing, and good exits

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so if you can differentiate when its a false positive(stupid/lazy) its a decent enough signal, however a signal doesnt mean much without good rm, pos sizing, and exits

fresh swallow
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I think bad handwriting means either your grade school teachers were shit at teaching it to you or you write fast

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Plenty of smart and dumb people with bad handwriting

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Like doctos with bad handwriting is a huge stereotype

cloud root
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yea im not saying the inverse is true, good handwritting =! dumb

fresh swallow
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I have horrendous handwriting, 95% sure I grip the pencil wrong

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But not worth re-teaching myself how to write letters

cloud root
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i have hieroglyphs for handwriting id say its 40% bc of what i said earlier, 25% bc im just a lazy bum 35% bc i just didnt care at all as a kid

dire finch
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i have brain damage so my handwriting is good

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n = 2 good enough sample size ship it

lethal apex
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liking cats

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gambling/tiktok addiction

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having discussed (prions | alzheimher's) > 2 hours

near nymph
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gambling addiction is strong signal for quant

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screw mm games, lemme show u my mines strategy on stake

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watch me double my money on plinko

lethal apex
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Thing about gambling is it filters out poor people pretty quick, as well as people who aren't skilled enough

near nymph
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it filters out losers

lethal apex
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so it's unironically a good signal

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nah some gamblers are fucking whales

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they just get weekly allowances from CEO Mom/Dad and all-in

lethal apex
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the amount of people I've spoken to in that category and also in this field

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is ridiculous

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enough where I'll drop some prion trivia

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Yea yea but like why prions

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I guess most people arrived at it through a wikipedia rabbit hole

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and it's horrifying and not discussed enough, so it's kind of a unique topic

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cats are mostly a dev thing

lime zealot
zenith whale
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how u talk about gambling and risk is a good filter for people who would be bad traders

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liking gambling for gambling means ur an idiot

near nymph
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hmmm i think not getting the joke is a weak signal

zenith whale
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ok

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unfortunately ppl genuinely believe this

dire finch
fresh swallow
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Loved this book as a kid

lethal apex
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Never read, must be a millenial thing

fresh swallow
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Im gen z

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barely tho

strange loom
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would markets become more or less efficient if everyone had their alpha leaked?

rose holly
rose holly
minor wadi
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hey did u get any updates from recruiter after oa

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for 2sigma freshman

undone estuary
minor wadi
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Yeah me neither

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I mean they kinda have to move the process along a little fast

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Considering May is in like 4 months

sterile harness
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icpc

vernal hornet
spiral rivet
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anyone know the difference between quantitative researcher and quantitative research analyst

tranquil wagon
spiral rivet
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asking cause they both pay 5.7k/week at 5r but one require masters/phd and one is only bachelors

tranquil wagon
thin quest
oblique orbit
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has anyone interviewed at maven securities for ng trader?

foggy flower
minor wadi
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Yeah me neither

minor wadi
lavish marten
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how can i learn abt quant ng recruitingm

late root
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What do u guys think is better for passing js/hrt resume screen, Point72, Snap, or Meta?

neon mirage
neon mirage
late root
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Yeah idk what to do here

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I have 1 more internship and i want to get js/hrt

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Hmm ok

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Damn ok yeah i was leaning pt but i also heard conflicting

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I rlly wanted to move one to fall but i dont think i can get them to budge

lime zealot
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from what I’ve seen JS basically auto interviews from a set list of companies

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I don’t know if p72 is on it but I reckon chances are a lot better of it being there than meta

late root
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I guess that makes sense yeah

slate crown
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meta aint mid bro

late root
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Well hopefully i get a interview from them next yesr

slate crown
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just cuz everyone has it lol

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but yea for qt, prolly better to go to a qt firm

late root
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Oh this for like qd/swe

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But yeah

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They are in same business

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I think this has been asked before but how possible is js/hrt ng

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Compared to intern, the class is prob way smaller right

lime zealot
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JS much harder for NG than internship

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yea class size is smaller

lavish marten
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odds looking fantastic then!

slate crown
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doesnt mean the company is bad lol, the qualified ppl gonna get RO anyways

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im ngl pltr probably gonna start to overhire too if they keep up the same trajectory soon but doesnt make it bad

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y

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eh debatable on that

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work matter more i argue

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but its nuanced tbf

late root
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Wait does pltr hire fall

strange loom
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so what I’m hearing is that climbing the ladder is basically brainrot

timber fiber
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both the recruiter at jane street and home depot are communication grads from western kentucky

near nymph
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idk my friend with zon got js reachout for swe

midnight scroll
stone vector
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recruiters aren't the smartest bunch

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they see meta they automatically equate it to being prestigious

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like amazon

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amazon hires a bunch

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and it's prestigious enough to recruiters

leaden temple
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B0ON-zqwwM&ab_channel=KaiMai same channel as this reddit post on csmajors lol https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/1i1efzn/if_you_arent_grinding_this_hard_you_wont_make_it/

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Interview with a Quant Software Engineer from Jane Street

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In this video, I interview my friend Vincent, an incoming software engineer at Jane Street, on how he came to pursue quant swe. We cover his childhood, academic background, work experience as well as the quantitative finance industry as a whole, qua...

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timber fiber
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i reckon meta way more prestigious to recruiters than p72

near nymph
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quant recs def know p72

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and actual exp at a quant firm is gonna beat exp in big tech when applying to quant roles

late root
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Fuck it man i think point72 is the way

low vault
late root
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Supposed to be low latency team but needs to be confirmed

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Not cubist tho

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Main arm

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Uh idk what that means

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Lol

low vault
late root
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Is that a team name or a person

low vault
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I was asking abt who ur manager was lol

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Yeah person

late root
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Ohhh

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R

low vault
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👀

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Oh interesting

late root
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Wait do yk abt that team

low vault
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I guess they got a few different people

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Yeah I’m hired but for offseason lolol

crimson ridge
late root
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Bruhhhhhh wait

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I need that off season lmao

low vault
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hfalgo team? 👀

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Just checking lol

late root
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Nono like

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Wait

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Not sure but i think team name is redwood

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Wait was ur posting for fall

low vault
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I got bounced around a bunch of teams

low vault
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I’m a little silly

late root
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Wait im confused😂

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Can i dm u rq

low vault
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I actually applied to KEPL but got bounced around a bunch

late root
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Ohhh

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Isee

low vault
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Sure

late root
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Kepl cracked

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Bet thanks i sent u a req

languid wing
late root
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Ok maybe im tripping lol was mostly considering snap rather than meta, they take few interns and cpp dev so i thought it might have some value 😂 worth a consideration ig

late root
dire finch
mossy seal
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yo i just made this

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i wanted to make a better version of zetamac

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lmk what you want me to add

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rn I have sign in with google and a time duration like 120 seconds like zetamac

rose holly
untold prawn
restive gorge
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Hi there, is anyone interested in combining research with a trading program?

I want to get experience in both, but I would like to do it together with someone to get a stick behind the door and actually do it. If so please dm or just mention me here

minor wadi
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yup lol

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nah they sent me email

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or recruiter did at least

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btw this is for freshman prog

livid wedge
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yes

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I had the same experience and I passed resume screen for those places

late root
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ok cool

livid wedge
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uh idk idt gpa matters a ton but might be cooked idk

tranquil wagon
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Why

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When u say disastrous what is that

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Maybe cooked yeah sorry

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Just leave it off resume

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And pass screens that don’t care about it

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Which definitely exist I think

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Chillin then

late root
dire finch
late root
neon mirage
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How are you even graduating sub 3 dude

late root
snow atlas
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bro must go to MIT

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i hear p72 recruits pretty heavily from there

late root
snow atlas
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in any case, very nice

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congrats on your options

late root
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Thanks 🙏

fresh swallow
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Not worth going for this with sub 3 gpa lol

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what are your internship options?

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why

late root
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Want to do quant swe

fresh swallow
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why

thin quest
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money

rose holly
fresh swallow
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^ if money is your motivation then you should probably go tech

late root
stone vector
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doesn't quant pay more?

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or are you referring to the ceiling

tranquil wagon
stone vector
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like big tech ceiling is higher than quant

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even though quant pays more initially

tranquil wagon
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What’s ceiling for dev in quant

stone vector
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unknown

zenith whale
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sure why not

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if ur smart u can prob get js

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probably need to be extraordinary though

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cit i dont see happening with that gpa

late root
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Im aware lol but also want to explore qt if i have the opportunity is all

lapis glen
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sys design

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familiarize with trading system, order matching etc

spiral rivet
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anyone familiar with how hard QT technical interview questions are

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did comp math in hs and was wondering how hard it compares to amc/aime

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or is green book level problems just fine

hot mica
cursive granite
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swe at quant == swe at big tech????

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u think?

low vault
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swe at quant == your mom == swe at big tech ????

thin temple
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ceiling higher at big tech for avg and below avg

white wave
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low chance

thin temple
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will pass resume screens at most, pass even more if u have a good school too

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but not a lot of spots

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so might get cut early if stack ranked w someone w better firms

thin quest
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grats on flow

dire arrow
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mf got deshawn in his inbox

mossy seal
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if anyone taking akuna's 201 or has taken it lmk

stiff dagger
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anyone go through cit swe process

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and can drop knowledge for a MF like me 🙏

random iron
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Anyone know what SIG problem solving assessment entails

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And how cracked do I have to be at mental math lol

cursive granite
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can i use python to ccode in jane street interview/

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?

untold prawn
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i was gonna say virtu and flow should not be in the same bracket 💀

dire arrow
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virtu is cool i like them

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fs

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i think optiver has a good amt of prev ctc folk

untold prawn
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no

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turkish quandale drug ring

dire arrow
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u fumbled bro

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u coulda had her

untold prawn
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bro has a gf 💀

dire arrow
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shooters gotta shoot nahmsayn

untold prawn
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😭

late root
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How about point compared to virtu

dire arrow
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i think cubist stronger name

late root
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I see, thanks

hardy marsh
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ctc vs akuna

dire finch
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tier list:
S: companies that did not hire me
F: companies that hired me

thin temple
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hourly pay deceptive tho for intern, quadrature, walleye, and others over $100/hr but jump trading >>>>> and less than 100

dire finch
thin temple
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jump gaps??

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jump lowk s tier

hardy marsh
# dire finch ctc btw

does ctc do undergrad quant research? or any other firms? Ik hrt has algo dev, any other companies do similar undergrad QR?

thin temple
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no way quadrature up that much

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maybe im outdated

dire finch
thin temple
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but jump still gaps js and shit but intern pay lower

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imo

hardy marsh
thin temple
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dont know much, but seen great outcomes

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esp if intern

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like great firms after

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idk how walleye is tho inside

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but id think jump gaps

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def would personally take walleye ov most firms for intern

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not sure how ft is

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low hc hih pay

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ive seen ppl have good ng exits from walleye

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sure

hot mica
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They arent actually paying 3mm per head lol its skewed to the top. Also thats not exactly an amazing revenue given their headcount and assumed size

stiff dagger
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what quant swe phones like pls guys

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what to prep

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systems shit or like dp/graphs

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citadel

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for a mediocre non-genius mf

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i’ve heard ye

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mane 😭

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anything from math to probability to like os?

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their coding shit is just like lc hard level in 30 min right

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no obscure geometry shit or crazy cp questions?

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alr time to go to temple and pray

zenith whale
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how do u even know this as an intern lol

stiff dagger
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jump trading petty fye

zenith whale
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in the context of internships firm profitability hardly matters

stiff dagger
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their logo gives charter fishing company tho

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not aura

zenith whale
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also jump is a pod shop

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so what are u exactly comparing

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congrats on quadrature

stiff dagger
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what’s valkyrie trading

untold prawn
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😂

lucid cloak
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Wasn’t tomer a business major or sm shit

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Am I tripping

untold prawn
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yeah commerce iirc

lucid cloak
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😂

untold prawn
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he moved from valk tho

lucid cloak
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Bro got valk off of self studying

lucid cloak
untold prawn
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tbf it was zirp era

lucid cloak
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Can’t be aquatic right

stiff dagger
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where y’all finding alpha guys

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is quant twitter the move?

lucid cloak
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What are some guesses

stiff dagger
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tf is that

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😭

zenith whale
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quant twitter is braindamage

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only use case is to buy shitcoins

stiff dagger
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some rich mfs on there

stone vector
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twitter is brain damage

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the brain damage leaked to ML twitter which is sad

stiff elbow
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Why this summer lol

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Oh I see lol

stiff dagger
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any tips on how to get into small boutique shit

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network?

fresh swallow
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You'll be fine with any of these

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I worked at a much shittier company for a year and passed plenty of resume screens

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Hell I got an interview with headlands for ng from 2 years of internships in defense

neon mirage
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Is job hopping in quant common? Not many firms you can go laterally/upwards + non competes

fresh swallow
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Can't speak to qt/qr but for swe plenty of people move around especially from lower paying firms

haughty hinge
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Did anyone interview for qrt power team?

halcyon zealot
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does qrt sponsor for us citizens lol

haughty hinge
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Likely but I’m not a citizen

untold prawn
stiff dagger
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will i pass screen at places if i’m CF master or is there too many nowadays

dire arrow
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fuck is u talmat cf master

stiff dagger
dire arrow
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gets whole lot harder to grind

stiff dagger
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i’m movtivated ash

stiff dagger
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i don’t do contests but i solve problems at around 1600-1900 rn

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u got it CM in 6 months doable af

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but imma start doing contests good for solving under pressure

languid prawn
low vault
cursive granite
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make sense

low vault
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i mean idrk abt that but it's plausible

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ive just felt that

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it doesn't feel as credible as having icpc/ioi/etc. bc its online, and most high cf people will have something like this anyway

low vault
hardy marsh
sick flame
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im have a de shaw vo for system engineer intern
but theres not much info on what I can expect. I'm assuming alot of the interview will be talking about my previous exp/pojects and how they relate to system enginerring. But i've only ever done swe style interviews (prev interned @ amazon and google) so I'm a little confused as what the technical side of this interview will look. Have exp with linux, networking, system design, p languges (python, go, rust) but beyond that can't really find whatelse to study.

also a followup have a fulltime o for google but thought about de shaw intern > google fo what would you suggest?

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stiff dagger
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i agree but if i have not much else

stiff dagger
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@lunar thicket what do you think gets someone past screen for qswe if non target

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just prev big name?

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damn so i’m ngmi

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how cooked is ng recruiting do u need to be intern?

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damn so i got like 6 months or i’m ngmi 😭

stiff dagger
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tesla fine?

dire arrow
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get the offer before u start hypothesizing this shit

stiff dagger
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get off my dick bro

dire arrow
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focus on the next step

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not 3 steps ahead

stiff dagger
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that is the next step

dire arrow
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take the greedy approach not the dp...

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ME on the other hand,

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I will be tesla fall, js qt summer 26, and js QR 2027 + RO

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cuz they spend 70hrs a week writing unit tests

stiff dagger
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junior fall

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sum BS

thin quest
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💀

stiff dagger
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it’s not good

dire arrow
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wdym ur on the forefront of national security

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how is that bs

thin quest
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grats on lockheed

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I see zon soph -> quant jr

stiff dagger
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yea i’ve seen that

dire arrow
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happens with cit a decent amt

dire arrow
stiff dagger
dire arrow
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wdym j wondering

stiff dagger
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U KNOW

dire arrow
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see u in bellevue ig

stiff dagger
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i’m ngmi

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KB jagnath not clutching up for me

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nah

dire arrow
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not yet *

stiff dagger
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i behave final yea at some point

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yea i’d say so

dire arrow
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im tesla fall with high liklihood

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why shant I be

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mfs will go on discord and ask "will i be fine recruiting with cf masters and tesla fall" when they have neither of said things nor are even close

stiff dagger
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ur doing too much

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ur doing too much

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6 months i’ll have both

dire arrow
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ok by dec 2026 ill be putnam fellow

stiff dagger
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um

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that’s not really the same difficulty is it

dire arrow
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so yea

stiff dagger
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maybe top 10k in bakersfield

thin quest
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😭 😭 😭

dire arrow
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pasadena *

stiff dagger
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i’ll give you compton

dire arrow
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@lunar thicket is there an irvine -> TGS pipeline

dire arrow
stiff dagger
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off to my big tech hidey hole ig

dire arrow
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u not one of us

stiff dagger
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small tech = big tech if it gets bigger

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🔥

dire arrow
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um ur talking to a UNICORN engineer

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poor ahh

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what about UC at irvine

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ah

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well arrowstreet was better fit for me anyways

stiff dagger
dire arrow
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we not the same

stiff dagger
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larp

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well

dire arrow
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im a jr . graduating in may 2026!

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erm I have sig discovery day

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i was selected from hundreds

tranquil wagon
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Fuck I knew it

thin quest
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When does rentech ng process start

untold prawn
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yeah this one's big, but a lot of them do have advanced degrees

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a couple did make it from undergrad but it was a long time ago so maybe much more difficult now

zenith whale
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zon soph is 0 signal

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zon jr is incredible negative signal

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nah soph summers are just flips

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the best signal is obviously doing some sort of trading internship (e.g., sig, imc, etc) but firms know that other firms hate sophomores

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for the ppl that are top school + soph zon getting interviews

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its most of the time something else on the resume

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or a referral doing the heavy lifting

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zon couldve been fruitless research and i think the resume value is the same

dire arrow
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is this true in trading?

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good to know thanks

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prob blacklists from that specific firm tho right

untold prawn
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is it really? is zon not valued the same by quant firms?

lime zealot
untold prawn
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ah interesting

lime zealot
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it really is not that deep LOL

untold prawn
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would they think the same abt like meta ppl from this cycle? since they also accepted a ton of ppl

lime zealot
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you can easily get top quant interviews with <=zon

dire arrow
lime zealot
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qswe/qd was the topic of conversation here no?

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i mean even u were referring to qd here LOL

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so i assumed that was what y'all were talking about

stiff dagger
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yea ik zon soph who got hella but cmu

lime zealot
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just saw this

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but like how do you even delineate that lol

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At the intern level, most quant firms don’t have a separate “QD” pipeline

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off the top of mind I can only think of Akuna who does that

tranquil wagon
lime zealot
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so true

zenith whale
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sophomore year internships dont matter

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as long as u have something shiny and interesting

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u can get js interview with no internships and usamo + umd

dire arrow
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stripe/robinhood/bloomberg++ will do a lot more for u in qswe screens than zon

hidden narwhal
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will the quant recruiters know that meta hired a lot more this cycle?

stiff dagger
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usamo is much harder than a meta or zon internship 😭

thin quest
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just be top 300 math comp student in hs

low vault
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This is false (?)

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I got interviewed by most of the top firms this year w prev trading

low vault
zenith whale
zenith whale
zenith whale
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u can be amazon jr year intern and get some qswe places for ft

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afaik i havent seen this in qt/qr barring maybe like 1-2 special cases

hidden narwhal
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Is there a diff between qswe and qd

zenith whale
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its firm dependent

stiff dagger
zenith whale
stiff dagger
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but u said that soph year internships don’t matter and they do if ur not from top school or usamo

zenith whale
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sure

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but if ur not top school or usamo, bloomberg aint saving ur resume

stiff dagger
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yea not bloomberg

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brix nvidia google saving u tho

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or blox

zenith whale
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doubtful lol

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maybe some teams

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but ymmv

stiff dagger
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what firms are the most liberal wiht interviews

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cit js?

zenith whale
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not cit

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js prob

stiff dagger
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nah fs cit

hidden narwhal
thin quest
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putnam

zenith whale
stiff dagger
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i’m prev nothing mid school and got phone

zenith whale
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qr?

stiff dagger
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nah lmao just dev

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qr insanely hard tho

zenith whale
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yea idk much abt dev

hidden narwhal
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Cit gives swe interview to most people who pass OA I think

low vault
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QR blobspin

stiff dagger
low vault
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I got interview this year but not last year

hidden narwhal
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Oh idk everyone ik who passed oa got interview

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But they were all from top schools so idk

low vault
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Blobspin

stiff dagger
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yea idk i failed oa mid school and got i think cit just isnane rng

low vault
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Not sure if it’s different for 5yr degree

stable zodiac
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ok

hidden narwhal
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Idk if cit cares that much

low vault
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Oh strange

stiff dagger
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yea they don’t

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js gives liberally too

stable zodiac
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ok

hidden narwhal
stiff dagger
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abt only juniors

hidden narwhal
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Idk

stiff dagger
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fuck

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yea they asked for gpa too after phone not before

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i think if u don’t have 3.7 + they just fail u after final?

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or idk

stable zodiac
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ok

spiral rivet
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are there any firms that are known to not care that much abt gpa for qt

dire finch
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mans really wants to backdoor quant

spiral rivet
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im at good school w zon internship but bad gpa and weird major

spiral rivet
lucid cloak
dire finch
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backdoor as in get in with nontraditional route

spiral rivet
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yeah that basically sums me up lmao

dire finch
lucid cloak
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so curious

dire finch
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oh so many you wouldn't know

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by ngmi i mean not directly focused on making money

lucid cloak
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so like the people that dont really focus on career stuff

dire finch
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a lotta people are 200% grad school pilled, doing nonprofit, enjoying life, etc

spiral rivet
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probably a lot of people who just want to do research lol

dire finch
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must be nice

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for me i kinda need a job or else my parents don't have a retirement plan

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generally speaking pton people tend to have their fingers in a lot of things

spiral rivet
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how do people at princeton's operations research financial engineering program do in terms of quant placements

dire finch
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not as good as the math and cs people

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cuz they're more cracked objectively

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and quants don't care about major

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they just care about your iq and abilities

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in general people that think you need x major to do y job (subconsciously) exclude the iq moggers that can take any job with <6 mo prep

spiral rivet
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but if they're in the ORFE major, they still get the opportunities to interview?

dire finch
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the most cracked quant guy i know (not at princeton but) is philosophy major my dude

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your major literally doesn't matter unless you're at the cusp of (making it / not making it)

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but sure it can help you choose the right classes to take or whatever

spiral rivet
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thats interesting

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theres a rlly smart philosophy major at my school doing trading too