#quants-n-traders

1 messages · Page 63 of 1

blazing cedar
#

Took 2-3 days

#

Yes

fresh swallow
#

I'm not a chick

halcyon zealot
#

how ideal js oa should be to pass

stone vector
#

do you not know what a tampon is also

autumn shoal
#

smth like

  1. imo gold
  2. ioi silver
  3. usapho camp
  4. putnam T100
  5. won [company] trading contest

should be enough

deep cargo
#

The bars not that crazy

lavish marten
#

too much irony

#

i cant understand

deep cargo
#

Not comfortable sharing exactly but I can give a general overview, likely later today

pallid berry
#

no my achievements were horrible

#

i j talked abt my life lmao

#

shit i did i’m proud of

#

like kinda

#

no awards or anything tho

lavish marten
#

this man has insane life achievements hes just being humble

#

....

zenith panther
#

no

viscid hinge
#

has anyone done js phone?

wild trellis
#

Anyone done 2sig first round for new grad?

#

Oh bet thanks

#

medium/hard I assume?

sacred beacon
#

has anyone taken millennium phone for swe

frigid comet
frigid comet
#

next week

#

wbu?

pulsar scarab
#

Atleast you got phone

gilded quartz
#

anyone knows which firms do fall? is it just cit and js

heavy condor
#

is cit stack ranking for these last few spots

deep cargo
#

only coop

fresh swallow
#

basic thing every chick uses vs some tech conference for nerd women

stone vector
#

but my point is

#

you don't have to be a woman to know what ghc is

#

you just have to have a bit of knowledge

deep cargo
#

Congrats on Northeastern

zenith panther
#

tuition is $1000/months

heavy condor
#

I dont

#

I'm lying out of my ass

zenith panther
#

there isn't

#

ppl get hired in feburary

sudden tusk
#

how fast does ctc respond after tech?

autumn shoal
#

how can i sign up for quantkings?

lavish marten
#

tf is blackedge capital

deep cargo
#

@thorn wyvern thoughts?

frigid comet
#

sorry didnt see this, glgl!

heavy condor
#

lucki is an opp

#

literally nothin good comes out of his moutj

#

🤨

lavish marten
#

buddy left the lucki leak i sent to him on read

neon mirage
#

Anyone been thru 2 sig NG process I can DM?

uncut steeple
#

(..affirmative action..)

#

so BLACKEDGE capital

#

get it

clever cloak
#

does cubist do offszn

azure sierra
#

Does anyone know how bad reneging a full time quant dev return offer for another quant firm would be?

#

In terms of burning bridges and/or losing both offers

dire arrow
#

but ion know shit

tranquil wagon
halcyon zealot
azure sierra
#

it is full time

azure sierra
halcyon zealot
#

But maybe if it is campus recruiting

#

They might chat

#

But if not they definitely don’t

azure sierra
#

wait fr

#

i was mostly concerned about the bg check/reference checks

#

cus it's a return offer so it'd be on my resume

halcyon zealot
#

How are they going to check your return offer being accepted

azure sierra
#

they can't but what if they like informally hit up the previous employer for a ref check

halcyon zealot
#

50/50 chance

azure sierra
#

that's scary 😮

#

do yall know if ppl have been burned for doing this in the past

#

like reneging quant ro for another quant company and losing both offers

halcyon zealot
#

Well just expedite

azure sierra
#

ive already signed

halcyon zealot
#

Immediately?

azure sierra
#

this was a while back

halcyon zealot
#

I don’t think they would give a shit since they are getting u from the competitor

azure sierra
#

hm rly

#

mind if i dm u?

halcyon zealot
#

I know none, just overall experience from other people’s words

tranquil wagon
#

Is it that bad lol

rocky crest
#

easy

pallid berry
#

firms tend to compete at their level so if u renege a “lower” tier firm for a better one idt anyone cares

azure sierra
#

do u think they'd care if it was similar level

#

also was it a return offer

timber fiber
#

quant is small recruiters talk personally would not risk it unless the other place was way better

pallid berry
timber fiber
#

also it being a return offer is probably worse because they have invested in you and they are more likely to take it personally

brisk ingot
#

they’ve sent yea

#

idk if it’s rolling or nah

vast relic
#

has anyone doing traders @ mit gotten their expenses approved yet

#

i sent them the email bc mine was going to be > $200

azure sierra
#

does anyone have thoughts on what ranking would be for desco/2sig/5 rings/citadel/optiver/js/hrt/jump/imc? for new grad swe

floral salmon
#

congrats on desco/2sig/5 rings/citadel/optiver/js/hrt/jump/imc

halcyon zealot
#

When does js reach hc

azure sierra
#

if u dont know team for any of them

azure sierra
#

bruh u dont get a team for some of them when ur recruiting

#

so im just asking in general

#

not all of the match team during interview process

stoic wigeon
#

de shaw sounds so sexy wym

shy patio
#

js is named after the street in nyc

azure sierra
#

LOL

#

jane street isn't even on jane street haha

shy patio
#

lmao

#

original hq was i think but they moved it

autumn shoal
#

for names: 5r > citadel > optiver > js > hrt> 2sig > jump > rest

proven salmon
#

Jane street has aura

#

Nothing beats citadel though

halcyon zealot
#

Does anybody here work at desres lmao

pallid berry
#

hot take

pallid berry
#

smaller != more aura imo

rocky crest
#

u can argue x should be in tier y b/c what not but then it wouldnt be raw aura so

deep cargo
#

5r >>

#

Cool name, best pay

cyan ridge
#

Has anyone done IMC QT final?

uncut steeple
#

has anyone done bankroll for optiver - dm me

broken bramble
deep cargo
brave stirrup
#

out of all shops, whats the consensus on the best one to do swe at

#

assuming ideal teams

deep cargo
#

cuz nobody knows enough about every firm to have all the info

brave stirrup
sleek smelt
#

Does maven have auto OA for grad trader

stone vector
#

5 rings sound like a fast food chain

shy patio
#

put the 5 rings in the bag bro

rocky crest
fresh swallow
#

eh my buddy is a quant dev at a hedge fund and gets paid well + good wlb

tranquil wagon
#

Which quant firms will let you push to off season

#

Is it something that most do if you ask or do most not?

gilded quartz
#

lol i asked that

tranquil wagon
#

Check your texts

gilded quartz
#

i think only cit and some say js but almost only for coop schools

pulsar scarab
#

anyone know what maven securities is like?

pulsar scarab
vague forge
#

tdoe?

floral salmon
#

.

hollow cave
sinful kernel
#

when did u hear back after applyign?

tender venture
#

anyone got any advice for flow quant case study? would be really appreciated

rocky crest
#

is TC good for NG?

proven salmon
#

Chat what’s a one day crash course for qt interviews

tender zodiac
#

^ The screen isn’t too bad I think. Algo dev is probably much harder

#

He’s probably talking about res screen

#

To even get the GCA

rocky crest
#

huh wut this

#

preach

#

thanks brother

sinful kernel
#

unironically i'd love to do weather quant

pulsar scarab
#

bro istg JS has a university recruiter from my school. Should I dm her or does that not work anymore? As in "we went to the same school please get me an interview"

ruby cypress
#

Correct

quasi orbit
#

has anyone gotten jump offer?

orchid ether
#

did u ever find out?

keen ember
#

they didnt gaf for me, just said extend your deadline bro

proven salmon
#

@mint aurora how did it go

#

It was decent
But my hand was being held lmao

#

Yh

neon mirage
#

Does 2sig still rej if you tell them you have deadline

zenith panther
#

orz

#

ik him irl 😭

#

he's a bit of troll online but he actually is kinda goated

#

oddly enough...

frigid comet
#

for qt or swe?

pulsar scarab
#

Which company

frigid comet
#

ahh, happens

#

u think 0 chance u move on?

keen ember
#

optiver

frigid comet
keen ember
#

yeah they just said they’re hella booked

#

I literally saw time slots getting taken as I was scheduling mine 💀

#

technical screen

#

I’m prolly not making hc

frigid comet
#

damn, were they nice at least

#

did they jump straight into technical or some behavioral?

keen ember
#

austin

#

transferred me

#

not sure, recruiter said that I may be a better fit for Austin so she switched me

#

💀 are you gonna continue process

pulsar scarab
#

peopel are getting JS T_T

#

I meant the interview

#

was it phone or onsite

#

does JS have a head count, or are they always hiring for ng

brisk ingot
#

central teams are hiring

somber ether
#

anyone know if 5r will match internship salary if asked to

rotund glacier
#

🦉

zenith panther
rotund glacier
zenith panther
#

😡

potent depot
#

What’s the estimated # of applicants to a QT intern spot, anyone have a guess?

zenith panther
ruby cypress
#

Is it normal to get a second phone for cit gqs new grad

rose holly
ruby cypress
#

Passed first 1hr technical phone screen and got another one. Not sure if this is typical for GQS since for other cit processes I’ve gone straight from technical screen to virtual onsite

hybrid obsidian
#

When does hrt usually reach hc for swe interns?

hybrid obsidian
#

Actually?

rocky crest
surreal heart
#

does anybody here know how CTC pay scales over time

#

for Trading

echo isle
#

hi, does anyone have an idea about the questions asked in citadel launch intern swe OA?

echo isle
#

Lol, I expected better

uncut steeple
#

has anyone taken optiver qt intern tech

#

failed it

#

I think the guy wanted to fail me ...

#

not sure what I did wrong

#

headcount?

#

recruiting link is still up

#

doesn't seem like it

#

dm plzz 😭

rapid mesa
rapid mesa
kindred turtle
#

How do you know?

uncut steeple
#

?

#

what does this mean...

#

why are ppl still getting oa callbacks then

#

what are u talking about man

#

plz no troll

kindred turtle
#

i think he's trolling lmao

#

wdym ip

#

ainnoway bruh thanksgiving 💀

#

did u have any other processes that late?

#

gotcha ty

#

dyk how late citsec/5r qt went last year? sitting on oas rn

indigo shadow
#

Any tips for cit swe leadership?

indigo shadow
#

It’s post-trade engineering

#

Idk what they do

#

Part of cit

tardy shuttle
#

is chicago trading company SWE intern OA auto? how many days from the invitation do they keep as the deadline for the assessment completion?

somber ether
somber ether
sinful kernel
#

intern salary irrelevant tbh

#

once u join FT that 20k will be negligible

#

too much

rocky crest
#

what’s the jane onsite to offer conversion rate??

#

200k/month

#

pretty solid

#

🙏🙏

dire arrow
#

for qt

#

would u guys take quant analyst at 150m aum hedge fund

#

or big tech swe

rocky crest
#

comp and comp growth

#

and WLB

dire arrow
#

meant for intern

#

idc abt comp or ro

#

at either

#

im just optimizing for res val / aura

#

and ofc valuable exp

#

why?

#

like is crudbobbing at zon gonna be better for screens than actually building models at 150mm shop?

sonic abyss
#

if you’re set on trading analyst is better

#

imo

floral salmon
#

ideally there is something better going for it than 150mm

#

not bigger number just something besides aum

rapid mesa
#

They made a late decision to increase the size of the trading internship so were hiring until like feb/march in Europe at least

dire arrow
#

like their q3 of '23 was 33%

#

and have been steady beating the market

rapid mesa
sinful kernel
#

way more interesting work

dire arrow
#

i have MathWorks rn but idk if that means shit

sinful kernel
#

whats the 150 mm shop

#

i'll lyk if i've heard of it

#

dm me

#

if u want

dire arrow
#

bet

halcyon zealot
rapid mesa
wary cedar
#

has anyone done the headlands phone interview before

surreal heart
#

what would y'all do when deciding between trading and swe

tacit scaffold
#

Trading

#

Swe blows

surreal heart
#

but mainly swe at a top tier firm vs trading at a lower tier firm

halcyon zealot
surreal heart
#

CTC vs Citadel

#

idrk the tiers

halcyon zealot
#

Well ofc

#

If u want to do trading more

#

Then go to trading

#

If u are just hybrid, then cit sounds cooler

somber ether
#

citsec's intern comp differs among candidates

somber ether
rapid mesa
#

I’m ok at coding but ik im better at quick thinking so I choose trading

rapid mesa
rapid mesa
somber ether
rapid mesa
#

Yea optiver does asw

wintry tendon
#

rly?

halcyon zealot
#

Idt people should be negotiating for internship’s tc

#

Unless it’s super bad

wintry tendon
#

its like citsec and drw

#

in the US i think at least

frigid comet
#

how long does it take to hear back after js phone?

pulsar scarab
frigid comet
#

can i dm?

frigid comet
tacit scaffold
#

Are referrals a thing at all in quant?

#

For QT

sinful kernel
#

what's ur offer at if u dont mind me asking

#

my friend is currently in process

somber ether
#

84k, and I don’t know the exact metrics used

sinful kernel
tacit scaffold
#

What quants are still recruiting? Like not winding down yet, cuz i can get a bunch of referrals but don’t want to waste them if it’s on like IMC or others that are pretty much done

#

I’d be QT

somber ether
#

qt

rose holly
rose holly
zenith panther
floral salmon
#

need cit

#

cit secs

candid rain
#

how long does citsec usually take after leadership to get back

#

i told them i have competing deadline on 10/4 but only just took the round last friday, do they usually try their best to meet it

livid wedge
#

If u have a deadline after ur leadership u could hear back in a couple of days

#

if ur leadership was last Friday and u told them ab deadline u def could hear back by 10/4

low blaze
#

anyone have advice for five rings interview qs for swe?

fresh swallow
#

tech recruiters are not going to value experience doing qt at all

fresh swallow
#

diff team tho

clever idol
#

what do quant swes actually do

autumn shoal
floral salmon
#

I think it is true they are going to value it less than swe even swe down a few tiers

#

seen smart ppl get nearly cooked by no qt ro

stone vector
#

isn't that a problem if you want to switch industry later

#

tbh do they even have the same levels in quant

pliant fjord
#

!process

edgy baneBOT
#

You can only use this command in 2022_winter_intern_process, 2022_summer_intern_process, 2022_grad_process, 2022_fall_intern_process, 2023_summer_intern_process, 2024_summer_intern_process, 2025_summer_intern_process, 2023_winter_intern_process, 2023_fall_intern_process, 2023_grad_process, 2024_grad_process, 2025_grad_process

pliant fjord
#

!process meta

edgy baneBOT
#

You can only use this command in 2022_winter_intern_process, 2022_summer_intern_process, 2022_grad_process, 2022_fall_intern_process, 2023_summer_intern_process, 2024_summer_intern_process, 2025_summer_intern_process, 2023_winter_intern_process, 2023_fall_intern_process, 2023_grad_process, 2024_grad_process, 2025_grad_process

fresh swallow
#

when they resume screen you they're gonna look at a 150m quant shop and think it's some random no name company

#

tech recruiters are dumb

pliant fjord
#

Maybe at smaller companies but if you have a qt role at any normal firm f500 firm recruiters will go crazy for it

pallid berry
pliant fjord
pallid berry
#

i’ve interned at both and a qt does nothing remotely close to what a senior swe does in big tech

pliant fjord
#

Interned where?

pallid berry
#

it’s just not the same job

pliant fjord
#

Maybe at some random bank

pallid berry
#

😭

pliant fjord
#

But I was at one of the higher firms and saw decent traders go straight to principals

#

Fundamentally the skills at a high level is the same

pallid berry
#

no it is not

#

like not even close

pliant fjord
#

Drop the LinkedIn

#

I feel like you woke up and chose to spread misinformation

wintry tendon
#

there are definitely 'dev-ish' traders but thats only a subset and the type of programming you do is pretty different

real crown
#

Does anyone know if balyasny is near HC?

rocky crest
#

QT gets downlevelled to L3 always im pretty sure, i highly doubt the same is true for SWE

#

u prob get capped at L5 tho cuz the titles f u over

#

they were principle eng at series A startup or smthg i bet

#

ive seen top 5% SWEs at meta go straight into managing QT pods at Jane Street ass energy

#

i mean, if ur at a low-mid tier firm where comp is on par for FAANG, you'd jump ship when ur around L5 anyways

#

so not a big loss

#

i imagine ex-HRT/JS/etc. SWEs go to startup land not big tech

#

or retire

#

at least the unicorn i worked at had a decent chunk of ex-HRT & ex-JS swes

#

i mean if u want t coast then obviously ur gonna take a pay cut

#

thats how coasting works

#

it matters for interviewing, during my JS interviews my guy straight up said he doesnt know any language but ocaml anymore. so u gotta retrain urself for interviews

#

i mean everything takes time

#

exactly. but if ur interviewing for a py role they expect you to come in knowing it

#

which means u need to spend hours outside of work

#

training urself

#

i mean u cant do ur interviews in OCaml

#

theyre gonna be like what is this bs

#

NG and experienced are diff

#

🐫

halcyon zealot
#

lmao do u think people go to work to JS without knowledge of python

rocky crest
#

a skill you dont use goes away

halcyon zealot
#

I don't think python is that easy to forget

rocky crest
#

tell those jane street swes for me then my dude

dire arrow
#

also its not qt

#

its like quant analyst , so more along the lines of qr work

#

researching / building/ backtesting factor models , mean-var op, finding stat arb opportunities etc

wintry tendon
tacit scaffold
#

Is it feasible to recruit for QT the summer right after you graduate?

#

Is that even possible or by "new grad" do they mean those that are still in school and graduating the following summer?

#

How so?

#

Cuz I made it to 3 finals this year but botched all of them cuz I just didn't have enough time to study

#

So I'd assume I'd do well next summer if given the chance

#

My company raising $1M😂

#

Lmao no I like trading more than the company

#

Like I REALLY enjoy it and wanna leave startups so badly

#

Problems are so much more stimulating in QT

#

Interesting ok...

#

But still possible to get some interviews?

#

I'm sick of SWE so would def take the risk

heavy condor
#

u can forget scoping in list comprehension that is static within class

pliant fjord
#

??

I’m saying if you can land a 1.2m/year mid level trading job, you probably will have a decent time landing a job in FAANG. The learning speed transfers. If you can find me a top quant complaining about being unable to land a tech role, I’ll post my nuts in this server

#

Ahh i saw decent numbers - implies I saw a few not the norm. Idk the baseline on the role they land but I doubt it’s l5 with masters new grads

stone vector
#

learning speed is learning speed

sudden tusk
#

is CTC swe at headcount? been ghosted 2 weeks after technicals and emailing campusrecruiting 😭

pliant fjord
#

Have you held a job before

willow portal
#

is cit gqs just weird? had phone and solved optimally + complexity, test cases ran, covered edge cases and interviewer seemed happy and had good vibes

rejection day after

what are they looking for

for new grad

pliant fjord
#

I said being a swe…

#

How many fingers you want me to hold up in a pic with it

#

Aight one sec

#

No no

#

I have the offer package

#

Wompers

#

Only given to employees in 2023

#

Ain’t no way

#

Slide your LinkedIn

#

We’ve definitely met

#

If you’ve got the bag you know damn well the only way to get the bag

#

And if you got an offer and don’t think you can get an offer in tech, respectfully I think you should see the type of people working in tech

#

👀👀

#

I’m in Texas this weekend

#

Can I send a representative

#

I’m also not at duke this semester haha, I’ll be back for spring

#

BRO LIKELY WORKED AT THE SAME COMPANY AND THINKS HE CANT GET A SWE ROLE

#

THAT IS INSANE

#

Smd I just threw out a title

#

The whole thing started as no exit ops

#

Is staff better? I think with decent social skills and good technicals skills and the ability to communicate staff is super reasonable

#

Ok but apologies lowkey was typing fast and probably should’ve understood the nuance of distinguished/principal roles vs more common high level independent contributor style roles

#

I thought you were trolling

#

Who is this

rough flame
#

Papa

hollow cargo
rough flame
#

He has so much dad lore its unreal. Honorary vs supermodel

vagrant dune
#

I want him

pliant fjord
#

My year?

rough flame
#

slide ur insta

pliant fjord
#

Slide the LinkedIn

#

Sure

#

206-519-8991

rough flame
#

slide the ssn

pliant fjord
#

You went to ncsm?

rough flame
pliant fjord
rough flame
pliant fjord
rough flame
#

l’chaim

pliant fjord
#

I’m going to go about my day now, but seeing as you have my number and I done have the reverse - contact me in Jan pls pls pls - deeply invested in this lore

rough flame
#

Dm your ig

#

@primal shell

pseudo siren
#

does anyone know the hrt HC standings for swe c++ interns?

rough flame
#

how does this relate to the conversation that just halpened here

pseudo siren
#

doesn’t i’m just curious

zenith panther
#

?

#

i got HRT/JS/Citsec

zenith panther
manic dawn
#

anyone do the sig problem solving assessment (the one that's 1 hr)

rocky crest
#

COF does

potent depot
#

What about for QR?

tacit scaffold
#

!!

fresh swallow
#

that's pretty small lmao recruiter has no idea

#

bruh

#

I got matched with an IOS team and a pub/sub team with 1.5 yoe doing low latency cpp

#

I was so annoyed

fresh swallow
# pliant fjord

bro really took a guy asking which internship he should do for his resume, a 150m quant shop or faang, and turned it into "if you work as a quant for 5 years at a top shop"

fresh swallow
#

their team match process seems like a joke imo

#

there's no way they have better candidates than me for L3 cpp roles

#

what'd you decline for?

#

entry level

#

Like I said 1.5 yoe

#

I mean as a ng yeah makes sense they'd put you on whatever they feel like

#

same

#

but when I have actual cpp exp why are they putting me on an ios team

#

At that point I had offers already to work in trading again so I told them no

stone vector
fresh swallow
#

it was for boulder so I told them I'd changed my mind and was now only interested in nyc teams

#

just that once

#

and I only got 2 team match calls

#

didn't match, they went with someone else

#

it was wack the guy I talked to wasn't even on the team I would be on

#

didn't seem to know much about it

#

I was like why am I talking to you

stone vector
#

based

vague forge
#

what exp did u have that got u the interview u think?

#

im not too knowledgeable but i thought C++ was a big thing to know?

#

especially if they didnt think it would be a good match otherwise lol

vague forge
#

did u have known companies on ur resume?

#

or just good exps

hollow cave
#

has anyone taken the HRT C++ dev oa?

wraith wolf
#

its just a GCF

#

2 braindead questions + 2 LC easy/med

wraith wolf
#

Mine was just a GCF

hollow cave
#

icic

#

and I'm guessing they force you to do it using cpp (?)

#

oh yeah for new grad in particular

wraith wolf
#

yep

#

GCF but u gotta do it in cpp

#

for NG, intern might be different

thin bluff
pliant fjord
craggy hemlock
#

How long before you hear back from Flow Traders or Maven?

tacit scaffold
frigid comet
thin bluff
sinful kernel
#

citsec culture better

#

cit fixed income is mostly traders

next shore
#

can i dm?

tranquil wagon
sinful kernel
#

like bonds

#

bc they pay a fixed amt every x periods

#

cit fixed income team focuses on trading fixed income assest

tranquil wagon
#

What stuff do I need to be good at to do well in a swe role at a hft

#

Yeah I’m good at that

#

What else

#

I’ve written so so so much cpp in very many large projects

#

C++ is probably what I know more about than any other single thing

#

No im talking more about how to do well at the role not how to get the role

#

Gotcha thanks

dire arrow
#

is interactive brokers a good frosh internship for quantmaxxing

#

or is bigger non-fintech name better

#

like hubspot or mongodb

feral yew
#

Quantmaxxing is wild 💀

tender venture
#

anyone know if tradermath/quant questions is worth it

#

or are they a waste of money

halcyon zealot
tender venture
#

what online resources do u recommend

#

brainstellar

#

?

dire arrow
#

its kinda in the name

hexed barn
#

Would yall pick imc or two sigma swe internship

hazy dune
#

do you guys think its possible to get into quant later in life

#

like at 26/27

stone vector
#

yes

hexed barn
#

Y

hexed barn
#

Idt its that bad

#

U j have a mentor right

#

Every intern gets their own project

halcyon zealot
tranquil wagon
#

From levels it seems like after the first year quant swe salaries aren’t even that much higher than big tech, is that wrong

#

Because so much of the first year pay seems to be sign on

neon mirage
tranquil wagon
neon mirage
#

Yeah idrk tbh I’m sure there’s ppl on here who can prob more accurately answer this

wintry tendon
#

so first year recurring may not be the best thing to compare to

halcyon zealot
#

for ft?

halcyon zealot
#

Idt anybody heard of it, they have only 2 employees in linkedin

sick flame
#

has anyone interviewed with arrowstreet before. I have an upcomming technnical for their quant dev intern position

#

coudlnt find anything as far as types of qs i should practice and what i should expect

tacit phoenix
#

Anyone got any advice for sig? I’m doing qt round 3 and not sure what to expect

sinful kernel
#

prob prob prob

next shore
#

anyone know two sigma new grad swe tc?

pulsar scarab
#

Anyone know about selini capital? Got an interview with them

tacit scaffold
#

Pretty sure they do like NFT stuff😂

#

Might stay away from that lol

strange loom
#

What is a cracked resume for quant?

#

Cracked seems vague tbh

stone drum
#

tbh its not that hard to get past res screen for like qt

strange loom
#

I think so too

#

The quant stuff I’ve done has been mostly headaches tbh

#

Anybody else get phone calls from quant recruiters who are clearly just trying to steal your network connections lol

brisk ingot
#

prolly headhunters

strange loom
#

Yeah

#

They ask about where you’re interviewing

#

Or have interviewed

wintry tendon
#

i think so too

#

there is so much variance in interviewing that i dont think hiring every person who made usamo is a bad strategy

#

i think at most of these internships the median person who made it beyond some reasonable threshold of competition math performs better than the median student who didnt

#

which is unfortunate since there is nothing you can do to do competition math once you are in college lol

#

ive heard it too but after more thought i dont think its true

autumn shoal
#

if contest math is grindable wot isn't?

low vault
#

Tbf digit dp is pretty easy if you’ve done contests

static musk
#

yes

stark anvil
#

!process verition

edgy baneBOT
#

You can only use this command in 2022_winter_intern_process, 2022_summer_intern_process, 2022_grad_process, 2022_fall_intern_process, 2023_summer_intern_process, 2024_summer_intern_process, 2025_summer_intern_process, 2023_winter_intern_process, 2023_fall_intern_process, 2023_grad_process, 2024_grad_process, 2025_grad_process

#

Unable to locate data on Verition

#

Unable to locate data on Millennium

floral salmon
#

oh fuck

#

Do you have a few minutes to check in this week? I’d love to hear how your call went

#

Is this offer

#

cit offer call

#

MR, citsec

visual smelt
#

unless ur leadership was a while a go

#

then probs offer call

floral salmon
#

wtf

#

why do they care about checkin

floral salmon
visual smelt
#

i think what u will get told is u got positive feedback and they wanna move forward with offer approval process and will ask if u woudl tkae citsec or wanna match with other team

floral salmon
#

wise

tranquil wagon
#

Did you say you’re graduating in 2026 or stop talking after saying you completed 2 semesters

#

I wouldn’t lie to the recruiters but you should stress the fact that you actually are graduating early and the ones I’ve interacted with are chill with that

urban adder
#

i can confirm that i am kevin's source on this

urban adder
hexed barn
#

Besides this

#

It was rlly fun i hear

mighty nest
#

has anyone done imc final qt

rotund glacier
#

@primal shell over

brisk ingot
#

yea i think v few groups were actually pair programming

#

atleast on the execution side everyone had their own tasks/part of the project they were responsible for

neon mirage
#

anyone done two sigma final tech I can dm? plz PepeHands

urban adder
#

it's not so pair programming more of bc mentor is shared your performance depends on theirs

#

at least a lot of ppl ik just got fucked bc they had a better teammate versus at another firm, having ur own mentor means more individualized learning and feedback and they rlly want you to succeed, not compare you to their 2-3 other interns for performance feedback that goes into RO decisions

#

THIS

#

that's all to say - if i had known this ab imc before picking it, i would've taken another offer and run, but hey that's just me

urban adder
tacit scaffold
#

Is there like a list of the firms that are still hiring?

#

I made it to a final round but messed up a dumb questions, so now motivated to go ape shit on referrals

#

Just need to know which are still hiring

dire arrow
#

fries in the bag buddy

tacit scaffold
#

@lime zealot why'd you want to leave quant?

dire arrow
#

is db deutschbank or databricks

#

or dropbox

#

oh fye

azure sierra
#

thoughts on de shaw vs citadel vs five rings?

#

swe for all

#

assuming u dont know team

#

how would u rank the 3

#

this is for ft

#

interesting why

#

what that's not true

#

hm

#

wait why lol

shy patio
#

the reference stuff for desco is crazy

azure sierra
#

(i have offer at one and finals at two)

#

desco haven't done ref check yet

shy patio
#

dont they ask you for prof references and ask them if ur the top 1% smartest ppl theyve ever met?

azure sierra
#

wtf lmao

#

no way

#

one of the three

#

j want to know cus its helpful

#

rly

late bear
azure sierra
#

ok

late bear
#

Whoever you list better glaze you to the max

#

Or they reject

azure sierra
#

that's bad lmao wow

#

idk if i have super strong refs

#

prob 2 profs and prev internship amnager

#

no masters

#

oh wow it is true

#

that's crazy

remote anchor
#

has anyone tried btc options trading at delta exchange

strange loom
#

gotta wonder with desco tbh

#

I’ve heard of $1M+ TC for QR @ desco for recent PhDs

#

Doesn’t surprise me, they are weird asf

tacit scaffold
#

Nah I actually agree with it

#

Like SWE is so much of the same shit over and over again, I'm kinda done with it

#

Trading is pretty exciting imo regardless of pay. If it was the same as SWE I'd still do QT

#

Any tips on how to cope with making it to a final interview for ur dream job and choking?

#

I haven't stopped thinking about it for 2 weeks

#

It's actually concerning tho

#

Cuz I feel like firms are slowing hiring down

urban adder
#

wait i feel this. quant on my resume is lowk making it fucking harder cz none of my recruiters know what IMC is

urban adder
simple kite
#

has someone interviewed with arrowstreet for qr? any advice for the first round zoom interview?

rotund glacier
blazing helm
#

hows citsec ll vs gqs?

blazing helm
#

low latency

livid wedge
#

citsec matches after ur not guaranteed ll usually

sinful kernel
#

next dy

tacit scaffold
#

eh I faded it

#

But prob good to take for QD tbh

fresh swallow
#

This

#

People in here are simply wrong thinking most tech recruiters know about the HFT space

#

I didn't work for a great firm but with 1 yoe I was able to get interviews with like 5-10 different firms, meanwhile the only tech companies that gave me interviews were Anduril and G for L3

#

I had a Goldman Sachs swe recruiter that a friend connected me with damn near hang up on me 💀

midnight scroll
#

In it rn. Not very

floral salmon
#

did leadership Wednesday

floral salmon
#

idr, got leadership invites 1-2 days after it

brave stirrup
#

does anyone know if optiver has done offseason internships recently for swe

#

ik they did like 2-3 years ago but do they still do it

left granite
serene shore
#

Anyone interviewed with schonfeld/point 72

rocky crest
#

desco has good rep cuz hedge fund but is troll

stoic wigeon
rose holly
brave stirrup
glass cedar
#

Has anyone received a final round for Old Mission Capital Junior SWE?

#

I haven't heard back for over a month 😭

left granite
#

can't be u fr 😔

stoic wigeon
#

incoming openai

#

u can give me chatgpt premium

left granite
#

misinformation 💀

#

i'ma ngmi

stoic wigeon
plucky verge
#

anyone in latter rounds of sig?

#

third/fourth rounds?

strange loom
#

why work for cit

#

when you could just take vc money for an ai startup

storm gazelle
#

Has anyone done the Cit Sec phone screen 1 for QT internship yet?

peak egret
#

It’s over.

#

Ball up top gg run ng i guess 😞

vast relic
blazing cedar
#

anyone know how much two sigma pays for new grad swe?

storm gazelle
lavish swift
#

has anyone done blackedge QD intern phone?

thin bluff
#

does anyone know how harder is js phone r2 compared to r1?

errant plover
#

I'm applying for swe roles at HFTs. Which is a better strategy : Interview early -> learn from the experience -> re-interview after 6 months vs prepare for 6 months -> interview.

I'm mainly concerned about cooling off periods and companies not giving a second chance / ban if I appear too unprepared the first time. (Applying to Citadel, Optiver, Jane Street, HRT)

floral salmon
#

could apply and interview early at places you don't really want

errant plover
rose holly
azure zenith
#

That said, as the other person mentioned, use companies you don't care about as practice

#

Including non HFTs

#

Hell I used Microsoft, palantir as practice

#

and always good as backups

#

But always interview as soon as you can with the HFTs etc. as they are often open earlier than other companies and therefore usually close sooner

#

if I were you, I wouldn't rely on the ability to re-interview as part of your plan

hybrid parrot
#

Js Qt intern taking while to respond after first round, am I cooked fellas

modern crystal
#

How can I prep for cit qt fixed income and macro trading first round math interview , has anyone taken yet ?

rapid mesa
tacit scaffold
rapid mesa
#

2min - 15 min = next stage

#

15min + = they shoot you in the head

#

Sorry

hybrid parrot
#

Perhaps I need to be patient

storm gazelle
#

Has anyone here done HRT Algo Dev first phone screen (no camera) yet?

#

Has anyone gone through the Quant Engineer superday for GS yet?

tiny hound
#

dumb question but for people who are new grad, are there any compliance issues related to living with someone working at another firm? Like no wfh, etc.

rocky crest
#

i dont think quants ever pretended they were doing it for social good

#

its very obvious that its money driven, and thats ok

#

theres no way JS is on the fence for morals theyre equally profit driven

#

10.6B revenue in 2023

#

its relatively victimless

#

so its pretty fine

#

you're not losing massive amount of money to a market maker as a retail investor

#

if businesses are that is their problem it doesn't hurt the people

#

whats an xtx

#

im ceo of flytre markets

#

dopes that count

#

whjy do ppl call em quant firms

#

but not tech firms

#

i mean like why do ppl say firm when relating to quant companies but its never a firm when talking about tech companies

#

interesting

#

“Firm” and “company” are terms that you can use interchangeably. Colloquially, people tend to use the term company more broadly, whereas they're more likely to use the term firm in reference to a service-based business such as a law firm or an accounting firm.

errant plover
#

Hell I used Microsoft, palantir as

mighty nest
#

help i just had a good interview with virtu and at the end i asked "what is something you like about the culture at imc"

#

actually abt to kms

stiff elbow
#

What'd they say lol

mighty nest
#

deceased

#

yeah

#

i was just like yeah i am

#

🫠

trim wharf
#

Is anyone in cubist quant dev academy process rn? NG

misty basin
#

is citadel launch oa the same as regular swe intern oa?

stoic wigeon
#

lol bro's actually active on linkedin

urban adder
sullen marsh
#

which position is it?

rocky crest
#

how much is intern pay?

late elk
#

anyone do Valkyrie Trading qr oa?

#

and is it auto?

pulsar basin
#

idk if it’s auto

potent depot
#

Anyone ever done QR JS, Optiver, or IMC final interview?

#

Are interviews technical or behavioral, on glass door it says last round is a discussion mostly some places

rotund glacier
potent depot
#

Good Christ

late elk
kindred turtle
#

are each an hour w/ an hour lunch break between

silent venture
rotund glacier
silent venture
#

to see what kind of projects and skills I can work on to get the interview

pulsar scarab
#

hrt twice is wild

surreal heart
#

I know nobody actually knows the answer to this but if Citadel hasn't responded in 13 days after Final Round Leadership Call, and when following up on Monday they said "Thanks for following up! We’re in the process of collecting and finalizing the feedback so we can determine best next steps. We should have an update for you soon! Please let me know if you have any questions in the meantime." (for reference, I followed up at 12:15AM and they responded at 7:54AM) is that a good sign or a bad sign or a no sign

#

in other words are they taking 2 weeks to figure out the best way to reject me 😭

#

EQR and GQS

#

citadel tho

#

sadge

#

unfortunate

errant plover
surreal heart
#

two separate leadership calls

errant plover
ocean sedge
#

does anyone know if optiver final is lc med or hard?

sinful kernel
#

is SIG QT still recruiting?

visual smelt
surreal heart
#

both

#

like half and half

real crown
urban eagle
#

Anyone interviewing for CTC pls DM

peak egret
#

I got it last year tho so idk what happened kekw

sand plank
#

what type of programming should i focus on if i want to go towards the hpc field

#

and what projects

tranquil wagon
#

c++++++++++++++++++++++++

sand plank
#

what do i learn thouhg

#

liek specifically

#

what type of projects should i do and stuff

flint dirge
#

Ngmi

sinful kernel
#

they just slow bro dw

sinful kernel
#

took a week+ to schedule my final after i submitted availability

sinful kernel
#

sig doesn't expedite

#

unless maybe trading

vast relic
#

They do for qt

languid prawn
#

i've been researching getting into jane street. however most of the info is for new grads / interns. does anybody know of unsaid requirements (e.g. be from a top school) that top hft firms have for more or less experienced SWEs?

tranquil wagon
#

Also make sure you read and know everything about the cppreference page on all the stl containers and most of the common algorithms

willow oyster
#

has anyone done millenium swe superday?

#

for newgrad*

sinful kernel
#

how do i get in millenium swe process 😭

wraith wolf
runic bramble
#

pre-application rejection

sand plank
stone vector
#

it's fast

#

used in systems that require speed

tranquil wagon
#

So it’s used in embedded, graphics, infrastructure, and the hot paths for many systems

#

It also compiles for almost any architecture since it’s so established and there’s interop supported with most other major languages

tardy shuttle
#

Hey, did anyone give the CCAT aptitute test + behavioural test for Chicago Trading Company? What is the expected score on OA to progress further?
This is for Trader intern position

kindred turtle
#

might be full

burnt lark
#

anyone do xantium/tudor qd intern interview?

kindred turtle
#

meant cutoff might be all correct

urban eagle
#

Anyone have info on CTC’s technical?

sand vessel
#

Anyone in cubist quant dev process?

split lintel
solid rampart
#

1 lc med

plucky verge
#

anyone do sig qt/qst/qr phone? would really appreciate some insight into current process!

storm igloo
#

should I know all the fundamentals before i read "a practical guide to quantitative finance interviews" or ill learn while i do the questions? How do I know that im ready to look at this book?

midnight scroll
lyric girder
#

how did it go?

plush violet
#

anyone did cubist oa for DA intern position?

cyan shoal
#

Anyone in 5r swe process

cyan shoal
#

Dm

orchid ether
#

Anyone know if BAM is any good for resume?

#

Got internship but not sure if I should take it

#

Pay doesn’t seem good

visual smelt
shadow cave
#

Idk what to expect

gilded trail
dawn mango
#

Did anyone interview wuth IMC for quant trader intern

orchid ether
#

Like 55 💀 and full time is ass too

#

So I’m hella cooked

#

Is it that bad?

orchid ether
#

55 an hour

#

Ft is prob around 140 nyc

lavish swift
orchid ether
#

Swe

lavish marten
#

does p72 do off season??

#

@thorn wyvern tf that mean

#

which seasons tho

dire arrow
#

im trench maxxed

orchid ether
#

After I decide yeah I can

uncut steeple
#

is akuna intern at hc

stone nexus
#

anyone know what cit launch interview is like

burnt lark
#

anyone know anything about trading operations analyst at citadel

#

just got second round and i’m curious if the role pays close to the amount the regular trader intern pays

sinful kernel
#

not front office so i doubt it pays the same

burnt lark
#

what do you think it does for resume for recruiting next year

hybrid parrot
#

Anyone know if Jane Street OA still means you start first phone round?

sinful kernel
#

is this for swe?

flint dirge
#

Might have filled up on hc

plucky verge
#

not yet, recruiters are still processing apps, should take less than a week

plucky verge
#

role?

summer jackal
#

has anyone heard back after tudor final

burnt lark
#

did you do xantium or a different team in tudor

summer jackal
#

it was for mid-frequency qd

burnt lark
#

ah gotcha gotcha

summer jackal
#

is xantium separate?

burnt lark
#

yeah it’s an entirely different app

#

either way i don’t have final round yet so i don’t think i have any info that would be useful to you

tame idol
#

@summer jackal when was your final, it’s been like 10 days for me & i talked w the recruiter but she said no word yet

summer jackal
#

same i had my final 2 wks ago

#

havent heard anything yet

sinful kernel
#

trading maybe

shut jolt
#

does optiver call to rej? i got next steps call after vo yesterday

shut jolt
sinful kernel
rocky crest
#

BAM is a big 4 hedge fund though how is their SWE pay so a$$

sinful kernel
#

bc swe is back office

hybrid parrot
sinful kernel
#

their actual trading strategies get paid well

rocky crest
#

MLP def pays more than that

#

gg ez n00b

hybrid parrot
#

Gratz

rocky crest
#

minecraft steve

stone vector
#

what's the answer

orchid ether
fringe roost
#

i'm killing my self

orchid ether
#

Massive rip

rocky crest
#

i mean depends on pay right

#

arrowstreet is pretty niche so they might be putting out big number TC we dont really know

#

asking reddit or blind or this dioscord is dumb tho

midnight scroll
#

RO rate ?

lavish swift
#

there are like several MMs with higher AUM than baly they j do less advertising for intern hiring and stuff

sinful kernel
#

anyone done two sigma swe process?

neon mirage
rocky crest
craggy scarab
#

hi everyone *.*
is there a server for optiver or citadel?

ocean bloom
neon mirage
ocean bloom
#

@sinful kernel hbu?

neon mirage
#

im NG process tho idt its diff afaik

ocean bloom
#

gotchu

#

Is the process oa -> phone -> 3x technical onsite -> 3x behavioral onsite ?

neon mirage
#

but yes aside from that

ocean bloom
#

sg

sinful kernel
vast relic
rocky crest
#

so in between meta and imc

#

y2 prob lower than tech tho

vast relic
#

Hm it’s 150 base with 50 target for y1

#

So y2 is probably 200 ish too?

#

But y1 also includes 50k in the fund so u have returns from that

vast relic
rocky crest
#

that’s a tough cliff

#

no lol

#

imc is substantially higher

vast relic
#

ok lol my friend lied

#

ik qt is 350-450 depending on your bonus range

rocky crest
#

my friends have gotten Ng offers in the last month

rocky crest
vast relic
#

its guaranteed

rocky crest
#

or do you mean negotiation

vast relic
#

amount isnt

#

if you're a return intern, they give you a projected bonus based on internship performance

#

i think if ur external, they'll just give 365 or something like that

rocky crest
#

lol wtf

rocky crest
#

or do they just lock in the projection

vast relic
#

i mean the fact that you're getting a bonus is

#

the amount isnt guaranteed

#

but i feel like their projection should be pretty accurate

harsh bough
fathom cipher
#

can u please dm

drowsy girder
#

anyone done imc qt first round?

smoky matrix
#

Does anyone know if the sig final is on site for qt?

sharp junco
#

its on site

craggy hemlock
#

Has anyone ever interviewed with Flow Traders before? If so could you shed some light onto round 2?

craggy hemlock
drowsy girder
thorn wyvern
#

U need 10/10 on all 4

craggy hemlock
#

If it’s OA the just random sample of easy-medium EV and combinatorics questions

feral yew
#

does anyone know how many rounds does radix trading have for C++ intern?

tardy shuttle
#

Did anyone take the Akuna Capital OA for SWE1 C++ role? Do they let you use Python for the coding questions?

#

SWE1 C++ Intern

fresh swallow
#

my buddy works there and it seems mad chill + good pay

lucid shard
#

does anyone know anything about radix "logical reasoning interview"?

#

i applied for swe idk why they asking me this 😭

#

i have info on p much every other firm if anyone interested in trading

fresh swallow
#

sounds like some brainteaser or iq test shit

grim pecan
#

lol not sure why they would ask that for swe

fresh swallow
#

back in like 2016

#

that's all companies would ask u

#

brainteasers for swe jobs

#

leetcode didn't exist yet

orchid ether
orchid ether
#

and good wlb is 9-5?

fresh swallow