quants-n-traders

[stray sentinel]

Wdym worth it

[charred spear]

I mean like, is it still possible to get callbacks if I start applying to some quants rn?

@stray sentinel

[pallid berry]

intern or ng?

[vocal drift]

anyone had cit qt phone?

[low vault]

JS maybe

[thick bay]

cit too ngl

a lot of ppl still doing their phone/onsite

[harsh blaze]

Does anyone if one should put AIME qualifiers on resume when applying to Quant intern? Or should I not as it is nothing when comparing to USAMO or campers

Would appreciate any advice🙏

[deep cargo]

u should

[harsh blaze]

Just want to know if it is even worth my time for me to apply

😭

[deep cargo]

why do u have to say ur a cc transfer on ur resume

[harsh blaze]

I heard some say it add value to my resume saying that I am hardworking. But I also heard some say it will make it look bad.
Would like to see how you folks think

Even with a fang intern and school ai research lab?

Sigh should have never gone to cc I guess🥲

[old shore]

i think u should just leave off ur cc

i also transferred and got way more responses after i started leaving my old university off

[harsh blaze]

😭 I guess I will do so then.

@old shore @storm coral did you both get into quant?

[old shore]

i stopped trying, i found it too much work to prepare for both qt and swe roles

[lavish marten]

is sig qd oa auto?

[neon mirage]

I don’t think so

NG ^

Intern yes

[pallid berry]

intern wasn’t auto last year (for swe)

[midnight scroll]

SIG swe intern OA is auto

ng isnt tho yea

[deep cargo]

dm

ask ping pong 💀

[pallid berry]

highly variable took me like 3 weeks lol

what team

is this full time?

[lavish marten]

dude is going to ur moms house LOL

show some respect

[charred spear]

spotted in the wild

[midnight scroll]

im ngmi

[thin bramble]

?

what is the question

[lavish marten]

talking about qd

[thin bramble]

citadel don't give offer without a call

[midnight scroll]

same thing

[lavish marten]

i rly wanted a different answer 💀 ty for lmk

[midnight scroll]

I think intern in general for sig almost everything is auto

although cant 100% tell if qt is

but yeah swe and qd def

[lavish marten]

i literally cannot break through these massive queues for quant

i think im getting assigned priority = std::numeric_limits<long long>::max() b/c of my school

thanks tho

[midnight scroll]

fwiw it seems sig resume screen is decently light

but they pip a lot during their behavioral phone round

and I have no clue how they determine who to cut based off a phone

might be a two tier res thing idk

[dull plaza]

Anyone have idea about sig quant strategy developer intern role？I didn't find any useful information about that.

[charred spear]

ygmi

trust my friend

trust in the power and wisdom of kruskal

[peak egret]

anyone get js trading oa

[smoky vortex]

why tf is walleye capital oa 3 hours long

[zenith panther]

🗣️

[deep cargo]

Congrats on Jane street

[deep cargo]

Ur alr at belvegoat

[pallid berry]

why does commodities have its own swe teams

[tight oasis]

is it worth emailing recruiters after applying online

like showing "continuing interest" or something

[sick citrus]

Is there really that much weather stuff as opposed to other fundamentals/ops data (ship tracking + pipeline movements, etc)

Makes sense, ig at its core weather is the initial catalyst that starts the supply/demand imbalances that move markets, ops data comes as a response in a very long chain of events?

[lavish marten]

anyone get ctc swe phone

[deep cargo]

Congrats on ctc

[lavish marten]

why specifically hinge

u got some trauama?

[abstract storm]

Just say u work at Radix

no one will find out

if you know woman will know

[timber fiber]

this is why trading orange juice futures is +ev

so much more interesting than oracle stock

[smoky vortex]

just got optiver trading technical, anyone know how many interviews there are

[fresh swallow]

No woman on hinge knows what any quant firm is

The most in the know woman might have heard of citadel

If you’re optimizing for impressing women by what company you work for (lol) go work for Goldman Sachs

Stop trolling man

CTC is good

[pallid berry]

peak cope

[rose holly]

Hello everyone,

[autumn shoal]

i wish i could get ctc or akuna

[fresh yacht]

Does anyone know what citadel fills for swe interns?

[pallid forge]

just drop the salary it's that easy

[hushed dune]

hi everyone, i want to become a quant developer. where should i start?

[fresh swallow]

Even a lot of CS majors don’t know about quant

At least when I was in college maybe that’s changed

[rose holly]

leetcode.com

pdt > radix

nuff said

[lavish marten]

HAS ANYONE DONE DRW SWE SUPERDAY??????

[pallid berry]

stop yelling.

[lavish marten]

mb

ₕaₛ aₙyₒₙₑ dₒₙₑ dᵣw ₛᵤₚₑᵣday?

[pallid berry]

bro get a quant job before hating on everyone

[halcyon zealot]

Has someone heard from akuna lately?

Qt

What

Did u receive rejection email?

I am waiting for a month after vidcruiter

None yet shiiit

[cloud pebble]

Has anyone interviewed for Jane Street SP?

[rose holly]

Imagine thinking women care about the company you work at, at all

just be tall and attractive bro, its so easy

[zenith panther]

he's interned at cit, js, hrt, and shaw

😭

idk why he's trolling rn

[fresh swallow]

Hence why I put (lol) after that

[rough plume]

my friend said lasst year the whole thing was in java

for SWE I assume, right?

[vocal drift]

any tips to prepare for cit qt phone?

[rose holly]

CTC is definitely worse than big tech

[pallid berry]

i agree i just dont think @thorn wyvern should be talking lol

[lavish marten]

y r u so mad gang

sunset is fire tho 🔥

[fresh swallow]

Even if hypothetically this is true(I have no idea) it’s still a good company to work for if you don’t get a big tech job

Yall be hating too much on here

[dire arrow]

who is ABD

Can someone W advice me

Is being completely overfit to qt OAs and interviews more EV than a semi-cracked comp math jit

Or do u end up in stack rank hell if u can clear OAs/phones but mid awards on res

[dire arrow]

im mostly reffering to like between OA/phone and first

from my understanding once ur at first rd ur res doesnt rlly matter anymore

ur performance during int trumps

[broken bramble]

Does anyone know if IMC calls to reject after final?

[fresh swallow]

You’ll find out on the phone call

💯

[paper sleet]

how do people study for the C++/concurrency/linux/low-level stuff that you need for quant swe roles? Are there study guides or resources like there are for sys design?

[dire harbor]

does anyone know about hc status at IMC for swe?

like when does it usually fill up?

[brisk ingot]

not anytime soon

[dire harbor]

ah okok

[brisk ingot]

from last year

summer 2024 was like 28 ish?

[brisk ingot]

was like 55-60% i think?

not confirmed, just from what i heard

i think 50ish

[reef harness]

If anyone done Five rings phone, citsec phone, Optiver r2, or Js final dm me😄👍

Qt intern for all

[uncut steeple]

how long does it take sig et al to get back

[fresh swallow]

Like 2-3 days

[peak egret]

anyone else here doing alphathon and looking for a team

[candid rain]

which good quant places offer offseason other than citsec?

damn rip

[uncut steeple]

2 weeks nothing

after oa

did u ever hear back

[rose holly]

I never said that it’s bad, it’s just worse than big tech

[hazy hawk]

Jump and imc ghosting my ass

[pallid berry]

when was ur jump phone

[deep cargo]

I think everyone had theirs last wed or Thursday no?

[pallid berry]

can i dm @deep cargo ?

[deep cargo]

Yeah

[deep cargo]

The interviewers seem to sell that they like working there

But that’s their job ig

💀

[lavish marten]

every 60 seconds a minute passes

[somber oriole]

Does anyone know what to expect for Jane Street phone interview, like how tricky it would be / whether they focus on brain teasers vs straight math?

[rose holly]

for trading or swe

[somber oriole]

@rose holly trading

[livid wedge]

everything at citsec/citadel is very team dependent also the culture at citadel is different than citsec

[fresh swallow]

No disrespect but the guy who wrote that sounds like a complete pussy

Waaaah I got paid low 7 figures

It’s beyond absurd how fragile some people are

Making “low 7 figures” for multiple years and only managing to save a million is also completely absurd

It blows my mind how many super smart people with high paying jobs are completely incompetent with their personal finances

[fresh swallow]

For 7 figures you could tell me to stare at a wall all day and not move a muscle

[brisk ingot]

thats not unreasonable for 2 years

[cyan shoal]

Yea idt this is true

If he was making like 1.2

That's like 650- 7020k ish after

[brisk ingot]

low 7 figures is prolly 1m ish than anything above 2m

yea

[cyan shoal]

And double that's is like 1.4m

Meaning he spent 400k in 2 years

Saved a good bit being honest

200k a year is not that much for someone with that level of income

[fresh swallow]

I didn’t see he specified 2 years

Yeah that’s fair I guess

Spending 200k a year is still a lot but it’s probably hard to stay away from lifestyle inflation

[peak egret]

how the hell do you solve this one im legit stumped 😭

You play rock, paper, scissors with a friend, but they can't use paper. The winner receives $1 from the loser. No payments happen if there is a tie. Under optimal strategy from both yourself and your friend, find your expected payout on one round of the game.

||is not 0||

[cyan shoal]

I mean ngl

If ur in a big city

Have kids

A house

Couple car payments

Not denying 200k is a lot of money

But it's not a lot to spend if ur making > $1m

[peak egret]

right?

like 0 or .50 are the first things that come to mind

[lavish marten]

its 50 cents

[fresh swallow]

I live in nyc and I spent about 30k in the past year

200k is a lot lol

If your friend isn’t braindead you can’t do that

Yeah

[peak egret]

its not .25 either

idk what the answer is its paywalled

[lavish marten]

@primal shell leave the channel now

its over

[peak egret]

😭

bro im cooked

i took my probability theory course ages ago idr half this stuff

🧠

[floral salmon]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nash_equilibrium#Computing_Nash_equilibria ?

[peak egret]

Yea it’s this, the answer is 1/3

[peak egret]

https://www.quantable.io/questions/3425?playlistId=12

[brave vessel]

is hrt new grad oa auto?

[low vault]

didn't he mention that he was paying off some debts in the post?

maybe some of the spending went to that

[low vault]

This is really funny

https://www.teamblind.com/company/Jane-Street

looks like some random toronto news article got attributed to JS by blind's searching algo or whatever

jane and finch homies 💪

[lavish marten]

anyone interviewing for drw commodities swe

[deep cargo]

Orz

[deep cargo]

They tell u the team before the superday

[lavish marten]

the entire interview process is catered to the team

[fair star]

ah ic

[brave vessel]

Wdym

So it's auto

[zenith panther]

Payouts are: ps * (SS = 0, SR = -1), pp * (PS = -1, PR = 1), pr * (RR = 0, RS = 1) -- game is about selecting optimal pr, ps, pp where the payout matrix ends up being 50/50 for all

idk why that's optimal but supposedly it is

at least that's what i learned in game theory last week 😂

speaking of which

i have game theory homework 🪢

[brave vessel]

What did u mean by phone is free

[rugged rampart]

Orz

[clear grove]

yeah i heard they had a react dashboard role open

[lavish marten]

stop bro. i wont be writing react. not funny.

[midnight scroll]

congrats on angular

[peak egret]

angular sux too

!

[shrewd tinsel]

anyone here do quant competitions? I'm looking if anyone knows of any competitions fall/winter 2024 or spring 2025?

[sudden tusk]

is first sig swe phone behavioral? anone got insights about the questions or what to expect/how to prepare?

[midnight scroll]

Yes just resume questions and generic behavioral questions

to prep just dont be a bot

[plucky verge]

anyone do imc qr oa?

[pallid berry]

dm

[fresh swallow]

Execution algorithms type shit

Stuff like iceberg, vwap, twap, etc

From what I remember

[lavish marten]

can i dm

[zenith panther]

ETE is the team for the trade execution platform

or wtvr

yeah

and pr

no

hes the fall intern

my replacement

🤣

no, but same subteam

ik his manager

we sat next to each other

his manager is chill asf

[pallid berry]

hope so man

bro gotta come back from europe fr

bro im sleeping in the office if i have to

[lavish marten]

xdddd

[twin island]

i wanted to ask if anyone has taken the SIG oa yet and if its automated or if its resume prescreened

[fresh swallow]

Does it matter

You gotta take it either way

[twin island]

thats true

just wanted to ask how the oa was

[fresh swallow]

It depends, if you’re experienced dev and c++ it’s def not gca

They ask you to implement something and then you go over your solution with a dev in phone interview

[midnight scroll]

for swe intern its gca

I think anything new grad its not

[balmy robin]

new grad swe was gca

[smoky vortex]

has anyone done optiver first round technical?

[twin island]

i applied to both their swe and quant strategy intern role

is their GCA for both?

cause i technically got two emails from cs for it

but ngl it seems like the same (?)

i haven't opened it yet though

but i got like

[smoky vortex]

qsd is gca

[twin island]

ohhh ok

[smoky vortex]

you just resubmit the score

[twin island]

so its the same for swe and qs

okok

[smoky vortex]

or just use 600 for both if you have it

[twin island]

i was gonna say, i got the same looking email

in the same email chain

LOL

oh nono

[smoky vortex]

sig has a bunch of internship roles i've never seen before

[twin island]

ngl

this is the only qs role i found for interns

oh rly

im p new to this

? eli5 pls

is it just like they overwork you or what

oh ew

im just a coffee boy D:

[zenith panther]

swe @ any firm is a fourth class citizen

[twin island]

lMFAO

dont delete it

bring it back

[stiff elbow]

Is qs for sig particularly hard?

[twin island]

tbf ill be slut for their pay

[stiff elbow]

They work as one?

[zenith panther]

coffee boy but instead of coffee you bring them CRUD dashboards

[fresh swallow]

Their pay is very competitive when taking into account COL

Vs big tech/other non top tier firms

[twin island]

oh

LMFAOOO

[stiff elbow]

Lmao

[twin island]

YOU GOT BOTTED

[fresh swallow]

But yeah basically all reviews of it online detail a weird work culture

Bellevue and Atlanta are not comparable cities to Philly imo

[stiff elbow]

What kinds of stuff did your friend get asked @thorn wyvern

[fresh swallow]

Atlanta seemed way more car dependent and sterile to me

But I haven’t been there in a long time

[twin island]

bro

why is the r word

flagged

i quoted it.

LMFAOO

[fresh swallow]

Mods here are sensitive

[twin island]

i mean ngl

at this point

i might have to do inexplicable thigns

for an offer

[fresh swallow]

I was there for a weekend

Took the bus

Seemed a lot nicer than nyc bus lmao

Was on time and clean

I took it from center city to manayunk

So yeah prolly

Someone making SIG salary has no need to leave the good parts lol

[smoky vortex]

they have company housing too

[fresh swallow]

Idts

That was not mentioned to me ever in the whole process

Unless you mean for intern

[twin island]

wait are you not applying as intern

[fresh swallow]

Im 24 lol

[twin island]

ahh

[sudden tusk]

anyone interview for quantitative strategist dev at sig?

wondering how the role compares to QD

[quasi orbit]

did anyone hear back from jump?

a recruiter wants to talk to me but ive never heard of people getting that

[smoky vortex]

is there an anecdotal bankroll cutoff for optiver qt?

[wintry tendon]

yeah if ur net worth < 1.3m your cut

[fresh swallow]

wym

I'm pretty sure they don't make you trade your own bank account lol

[zenith panther]

happens every time

last yr i got that call then got rejected

[quasi orbit]

they say it’s before they assess ur interview results lol

[deep cargo]

I thought everyone took it last week though lol

[quasi orbit]

yeah but they said they're still evaluating

[zenith whale]

https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/1fccn9p/junior_at_t200_gets_jane_street/ which one of u weirdos is this

[split lintel]

why are they a weirdo?

[midnight scroll]

deleted account

DMs got nuked probably lol

hopefully it was a burner!

[stone drum]

some of the comments were flaming him

idk why tho

[uncut steeple]

sig said no to me

p sure i aced their oa

(had the qs lol)

maybe resume review afterhand

[hot mica]

No, JS told him to delete it 🤣

[fresh swallow]

The comments that are on the post seem to explain it pretty well lol

I don’t even know the guy but sounds annoying from what they’re saying

[floral salmon]

not saying it means he's wrong but one of those commenters looked like a chud who likes to find problems with things

[pallid forge]

Is it just math and puzzles?

[uncut steeple]

they just hire traditionally attractive chicks for these roles i've noticed

100% get the feel

just had a chat with a recruiter who was a social worker for the past half decade

I mean, I would too if i was a HM lmao

hire hot 22 yr old college chicks to deal with your recruiting, why not

[stone drum]

i saw some of the guy's comments but i thought he was being funny/trolling people lol

[rotund spire]

💀

[zenith whale]

original post was very weird, lots of downplaying own effort and humble bragging

you can see the comments shitting on him

FTers are making fun of him and it was a good choice to delete

considering that i just left the industry not really

someone sent it to me and i thought it was funny

[fresh swallow]

Not super funny to be some privileged ass mf trolling people about how it’s not that hard to get a job on a sub full of mfs desperate for a job imo

[fresh swallow]

At my first job a drunk old head at a happy hour told my coworker they didn’t hire hot chicks because no one would get any work done

Lmao

[smoky vortex]

Does anyone know how many steps there are in optiver qt process

Or what the 2nd round phone looks like

[lavish marten]

was omc oa auto

[lavish marten]

yes

[brisk ingot]

anyone done bridgewater's design interview?

[sweet cargo]

tldr "jane street offer fell into my lap and I aint sweat for it"

[rose holly]

Gigachad for that

[sweet cargo]

ya nate is my idol fr

[zenith whale]

lmao ro chance just got reduced from 40% to 5%

if ur celebration post is cringe enough to get fters laughing, it might be over

[uncut steeple]

flowers solve everything

flowers ready to go

[stiff elbow]

Where did you hear this lol

O damn

What'd he do

O damn

Oh I get what you mean

Is that actually the case or did he grind hella

O I see

[fresh swallow]

Plus having internship in hs lmao

[zenith whale]

a few friends work there

good lunch conversation

[proven salmon]

Chat how do i prep for JS phone

wdym by market making games

thanks though

[halcyon zealot]

Lmao

Prep better

[proven salmon]

do you have any resources?

[halcyon zealot]

There are some websites, the popular ones which have kinda practice for basic mm games

The websites that have probability questions and quant prep stuff

[gentle orchid]

anyone take HRT core final?

[quasi orbit]

Python or cpp?

[gentle orchid]

cpp

[peak egret]

when do you have it

[charred rune]

anyone take py?

[forest cobalt]

IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC

[deep cargo]

IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC IMC

[regal umbra]

when does js head count?

[fossil willow]

Ghosted by imc it’s over

[reef harness]

anyone know what JS final tdoe is like and if it's easier than qt?

*intern

[blazing cedar]

how's akuna capital oa for qt?

and is it only python?

[glad spoke]

anyone got any info on drw qta superday?

[unreal delta]

Is it too late for QT recruiting

Like if I started applying now to internships

[pearl venture]

anyone done the IMC qr intern r1 (after phone)?

[gilded quartz]

i heard early sept is usually a good time to aim for

if you do all ur OAs quickly it shldnt be too late

[terse glade]

yea ur chilling

[deft citrus]

anyone done hrt phone for python swe?

[balmy ore]

anyone do arrow street stage 2 interview after OA

[terse kindle]

has anyone done akuna codepair for dev before

[terse kindle]

it's stupid asf

[stoic gorge]

how different is applying for internships vs new grad for swe at quant firms (in terms of difficulty of getting an offer, factoring in headcount and interview process)? I should have the option to choose between the two next year and I'm wondering if there are certain firms where one is much easier to get than the other. thanks

[sudden tusk]

is ctc oa -> final for intern? or are there multiple techs?

[sinful kernel]

anyone know SIG tech phone diffiuclty? LC med/hard?

[candid tulip]

how do i cram for akuna trader phone

[lavish marten]

anyone know anyone that's interned at drw?

pls hmu or dm me if you know someone that has

[halcyon zealot]

for swe at least it's not

[pulsar basin]

how so?

also does anyone know if optiver has reached HC for swe yet

[terse kindle]

write a dumbass one line list comprehension for some useless task

and its some nested list comprehension bs lmfao

[sudden tusk]

ye for swe intern, how many rounds did you have?

was it just leetcode

[halcyon zealot]

Scheduled first phone only

[balmy ore]

Hard Wym

[floral salmon]

steady state markov chain?

[deep cargo]

Cpp

U get matched no matter what

U just have to clear the interview

Ik someone who did Java and asked for cpp and got a cpp team

It doesn’t matter

Do py

[fresh swallow]

Why do you even know Java

Idgi where are people using Java

[brisk nova]

anyone going to SIG poker tourney in nyc?

[floral salmon]

I suppose u would decline an offer for those teams then?

[fresh swallow]

Sig uses C# heavily

Java is def a minority if they use it

I’d define heavy as majority of codebase

[fresh swallow]

Both are significantly less ass than Java

[proven salmon]

Need Quant

[willow oyster]

what makes de shaw different from other hedge funds? like why would u pick de shaw over cit for example?

[midnight scroll]

De shaw to amazon pipeline

[willow oyster]

what about strategy wise, like how hrt is a lot more algorithmic and less gut feeling trading than other firms

or does de shaw have dominance in certain markets/trafing crrtain thing?

[rose holly]

pretty good at stat arb

[surreal heart]

do you think there'll ever be a push to different JVM languages, like Scala or Kotlin?

seems like some of them would work nicely with how some abstractions work at the Quant level

especially considering easy interoperability

[lavish marten]

insant death upon failed compilation

[next shore]

is IMC qr oa auto?

[gusty root]

Hi, I wanted to ask you guys who managed to get interviews, what personal projects did you do which can be relevant to HFT?

[stoic hawk]

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Note: You must live in US, Canada or Europe.
And there is no upfront.

Thank you.

[sweet cargo]

so what is the radically different culture at de shaw people are speaking of

[autumn shoal]

what is desco?

[rose holly]

de shaw and company

[gusty root]

who got imc?

pnl?

in SWE or ML?

Nvm it's that spammer

so who actually got imc

sig?

[low vault]

balls. lots of balls.

[gusty root]

more than 2?

[low vault]

at least e

[broken sparrow]

yeah

[gusty root]

What's sig?

two sigma?

[broken sparrow]

susquehanna

[glossy epoch]

Hello yall, wondering if you could give me some book recommendations for someone that's curious about the industry

[gusty root]

Why are they called sig?

[rough plume]

susquehanna

[lavish marten]

overall reputation of schonfeld? heard of them but dont know anyone that works there

[gusty root]

ah I see

[midnight scroll]

*international

[gusty root]

They have grad roles open?

[lavish marten]

idiot (jk)

[fresh swallow]

None

[proven salmon]

chat how to quant max

[tranquil wagon]

Go to mit, do olympiads

[sweet cargo]

i'm really bad at math and go to a no name school, how can I quant max

[midnight scroll]

go to grad school at a better school

[blazing cedar]

anyone here did hrt first interview for c++ new grad?

[dense terrace]

does someone have list of the citadel leetcode problems?

[livid wedge]

citadel doesn’t use a question bank

[crimson arrow]

have people gotten lot of OS trivia in 3x45 or just lc for cit

[rapid bane]

lol

[halcyon zealot]

Do all quant firms ask for OS?

What if you haven’t taken it

[crimson arrow]

I got it first round and i assume most juniors have taken a tangential course to OS

[floral salmon]

yeah if you haven't taken it that's not their problem

[brave stirrup]

is there any networking version of ostep? essentially some networking book i can read for quant prep (preferably short as well if possible)

[hybrid obsidian]

Does anyone know the jump trading phone for swe intern looks like? Is it just lc?

[sweet cargo]

so it's over?

[runic bramble]

finance sucks

this isn't even finance

glorified number crunching

low pay, long hours, no prestige

why would you ever want to spend your life prepping for this? just work at google

[sweet cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/l-lawliet-death-note-gif-21936347

[runic bramble]

that and you get chewed out by your boss for the slightest mistake - no free food - sometimes they dont even pay u - .. i can go on and on

I'm not even sure why they have a channel dedicated to this crap. like where is the FANG channel instead

[pallid forge]

pretty much just general

[runic bramble]

not like Google does

[soft fossil]

ya do it

my friend did qt and then they interviewed him for swe too

after he failed qt

oh

last year they let him interview for both

he did swe first then quant hto

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[deep cargo]

they'll reach out to u if they are interested

[night cove]

tf

they respond to emails?

[night cove]

yeah this what I thought

congrats broski your res must be fire

[main totem]

Anyone kno what citadel new grad qr interview is like

[willow portal]

lol had the same thing last year then promptly rejected in Jan

I think it's just standard for them to tell you to reapply in Jan I wouldn't have high hopes

[abstract crater]

do people do undergrad research for this?

[full ridge]

unfortunately very cooked

it's js

bar is very high

even a little handholding can be likely rejection

[proven whale]

applied but didn't get optiver's auto confirmation... wtf do i do

pretty sure i mistyped my email

[peak vortex]

has anyone been through millennium swe intern process, please dm

[vast locust]

oa

[midnight scroll]

You heard back after oa?

First I've seen

[night topaz]

anyone do hrt phone?

[mystic ocean]

does anyone know if akuna rescinds if u ask for offer deadline extension

[stone vector]

how long does a rejection usually take

[sinful kernel]

wait there are firms that do that wtf

thats so fucked up lol

[night topaz]

yeah they do

[mystic ocean]

just accepted offer cause fuck the risk lol

[hexed barn]

how do i prep for cit onsite

[hoary finch]

sig 30 min phone call this week after OA said i should have pen and paper ready. anyone went through this stage?

QT Intern

[night topaz]

yeah I am

the q was absurd

[glad spoke]

Has anyone done drw qt super day

[stone vector]

did you make it

[brisk ingot]

auto, but i think they want u to apply in jan/feb

[kindred basin]

if u didnt get offer on the spot u didnt get sorry bro

[brave stirrup]

does virtu do fall

[deep cargo]

No

[hazy hawk]

Optiver reject at final round rip lol

[lavish marten]

f

[hazy hawk]

Tech (not qt )

[low vault]

oh yeah this happened to me asw LOL

[hazy hawk]

I was fpga lol so idk if I'll be helpful but sure

[brave stirrup]

if i were to be interested in fall for citadel, when should I let them know? currently plan is after (if) i pass 3x45

[balmy ore]

You write ur code pair?

[queen pendant]

u don’t need a company

just download fanduel

ill sell u parlays

[heavy condor]

so hypothetically

would u first accept Cit summer, then get Jane summer, then move Cit -> Fall?

hyptohetically

(im getting rjeected)

[late bear]

jets patriots over/unders please

[fresh swallow]

what a jock job

this might be the most jock office job in existence

[runic bramble]

anyone want to walk over greenbook questions 1 by 1

dm me asap

[brave stirrup]

well if i do have smth like that when should i tell them

i mean the only reason you would want to move it to fall anyway is for like smth better summer right

[runic bramble]

green book

cmon guise dont be lazy

guise

[brave stirrup]

does that usually work or are they p stingy about giving fall offers

[rose holly]

why did galaxy

open trading this morning

and then immediately close it

r they done taking apps or was it mistake listing

[lavish marten]

sig vs drw for swe?

[deep cargo]

drw no debate

[uncut dagger]

anyone have some tips for belevedere quant trading interview prep

[heavy condor]

what should i prepare for if I interview with CitSec LL?

[lavish marten]

do not trust a word this man says

[heavy condor]

whatchu mean

thats what i heard as well

[modest cargo]

anyone done sig qt know what process is like?

[runic bramble]

fucking lol

[split lintel]

[livid wedge]

this is valid lol

[livid wedge]

dm me

[modest cargo]

damn

[livid wedge]

sure

[rose holly]

for what role?

[lavish marten]

goal in life is to be smart enough to where i dont need to rely on larpers like lucki to scrape alpha from the underside of bus chairs

[still canopy]

Are first round interviews usually just technical?

[stone vector]

where's lucki at

[hollow cave]

has anyone done citadel phone for new grad swe?

[rose holly]

Mb but thats not a dox I think

Pretty sure

Idk

I was jobless this summer because agegapped

No moved offer

I'll be 18 next summer

Ur big bro, need some gym tips man

I stopped eating so I'm the opposite

[deep cargo]

What’d u do during the summer then?

Just chill?

[rose holly]

Yeah

Ik that's suprising for people in the US

But I've chilled all my summers in my life

Kind of a normal thing in Europe

Biggest regret was applying to US colleges

Still traumatized

[deep cargo]

Very fair

I think it’s better that way honestly

[rose holly]

I'm probably biased but from the people I know closely in the US they were busy like each summer with something study/work related in high school because of college admissions

Like research/internship/volunteering

[deep cargo]

I didn’t do a lot of that in hs

Enjoyed my life a lot more back then

[rose holly]

Yeah tbf my sample size is rsi ppl

So sweats

[vast relic]

🐐

[deep cargo]

I was gonna be a pro soccer player back then

[brisk ingot]

he gaps messi

[icy leaf]

jump qr vs shaw qr?

[deep cargo]

And this is where we beef

[proven salmon]

quants should reject you for this statement smh

https://tenor.com/view/ميسي-rkh16-gif-21967443

[heavy condor]

citsec is: if u get offer, u get a few options for ur team no?

[deep cargo]

Yes

Congrats on citsec

[fresh swallow]

It's crazy to me that people like that exist

I don't know a single person who wasn't vibing during high school summers, minimum wage job at most

I was like the only person who had an internship even after freshman year

[stone vector]

it depends on what kind of HS you went to

[fresh swallow]

first time I encountered sweats like that was freshman year of college when I tried to join some professional clubs

I was so gapped

[stone vector]

if you went to an uncompetitive HS then majority just chill

[fresh swallow]

I don't think there's a single high school in my state that competitive

[clear mountain]

Does anyone know what places like jane st. are using wafers from cerebras for? I'm mostly just asking out of curiosity, I thought it was interesting

Is it quite literally just for ML? In which how come smth from cerebras instead of e.g. an H100

[vast relic]

No u

[rose holly]

Hung Min?

[brisk ingot]

cit gqs?

they're closer to quant devs afaik

"Quantitative Research Engineers (QREs) in GQS collaborate with Quantitative Researchers (QRs) to analyze data, develop research tools, and enhance and maintain our automated trading system and algorithms"

[livid wedge]

different than real qr, but ik qres who have become qrs later on

no theres an extra interview

for intern leadership

for ng the interviews are harder than rest of cit

[cyan ridge]

Plz 😭🙏

[west siren]

hii has anyone interviewed w radix trading?

[low vault]

your mom

[west siren]

thanks 😭

[west siren]

guys please am i doomed

[gusty root]

Is Optiver OA automatic? Additionally, does passing all test cases guarantee you into the interview?

[candid rain]

what does citsec usually ask during leadership rounds? it’s it common to get rejected this stage?

[modest cargo]

1. yes 2. no

[gusty root]

ty

[neon mirage]

If you got radix interview, you are far from doomed my friend

[west siren]

have you done it? can i dm 🥺

[neon mirage]

I have not sorry I’m too resume gapped

[west siren]

😭

[neon mirage]

I say take it the worse that can happen is you get experience

[west siren]

i don't even have quant exp i think this recruiter made a mistake LMAOOAOAO

[grizzled forum]

hihi has anyone done blackedge phone swe

[lone umbra]

anyone done imc final?

for quant trading

[tranquil wagon]

Neuron activation

[worn quartz]

how hard is it to pass the resume screens at five rings?

[cerulean nexus]

who got me with tqd link

[rose holly]

how much you wanna pay

[peak egret]

Do u go to mit?

[fervent bolt]

But u worked at a unicorn

That’s why

[west siren]

LMAO ur display name goes crazy

ya i got an email like literally a month ago saying theyre processing things and will lmk

[dire arrow]

whats yalls zetamac?

whats a good target

bro

stop

im at 40 dude am i fucking iq gapped

i j started but no shot i can triple this da fuck

[halcyon zealot]

It’s not about iq and this mf is straight lying

[midnight scroll]

Blackedge oa auto?

[dire arrow]

the smartest kid ik can avg like 80 , 120 does seem a bit insane

[candid tulip]

does sig QT just ask probability

or any poker, market making, game theory?

[ruby cypress]

Anyone ever had a citadel QR engineer interview? Got a one hour technical coming up for NG and would like to know what to expect

[ruby cypress]

65+ should be good to pass optiver OA

[proven salmon]

what kidna questions does JS QT ask?>

[frigid comet]

has anyone done swe js phone (intern)?

just curious how hard people thought it was

[sinful kernel]

has five rings started yet

for swe

[rose holly]

same

i barely break 50

idk if its enough

[sudden tusk]

how long after ctc technical screen does it take for a response?

[winter yoke]

What is this channel for?

[rose holly]

like 60

its trainable for sure tho

i started at like 12

[autumn shoal]

mine is like 20

i think i'm set

[ruby cypress]

Bump anyone been through this process ?

[hollow cave]

bump for if anyone's done Citadel SWE as well :)

[ruby cypress]

I’ve done SWE dm me

[fresh swallow]

M?

MIT?

[deep cargo]

Michigan State

[rose holly]

hypsmg*

[serene shore]

got a recruiter reachout for this as well

[proven salmon]

QUANT MAXXING

HYPMUT*

[broken yarrow]

optiver swe oa was so cancer holy shit, 3.25 hours of assessments

[rose holly]

💀

and then they have like 4 interviews

for trading

after the oa

[runic bramble]

anybody at shaw

[candid tulip]

first sig phone scheduled for mid october (QT intern), isnt this like way too late? even if i somehow pass all interviews will there be hc still

[gusty wave]

What yall think I shd do if I miss this cycle. I've only had swe internships, and am gonna be full time swe in nyc most prob. Can I get in next yr to QT?

[uncut steeple]

anyone wanna go @ green book? DM me

[modest cargo]

yea its p cooked tbh

theyre def close to hc

[candid tulip]

over

[harsh blaze]

Anyone knows what to expect for Akuna 15 min math test oa?

Applied for QT intern

Not sure what to study

[harsh blaze]

Nah it is the easy hire recorded one

Do u guys know which quant firm hasn’t reached head count for their internship yet?

I only applied to akuna so far

[lavish marten]

respond to my dmmm dad

[pulsar basin]

I got 3 probability questions, but this was for QD

like basic counting/enumeration stuff

[harsh blaze]

Thanks for letting me know

Do they resume screen afterwards?

[pulsar basin]

idk

[harsh blaze]

Did u get to move to next round?

[pulsar basin]

no lol

[harsh blaze]

Even after answering perfectly?

[pulsar basin]

idk i prolly didnt answer perfectly

[harsh blaze]

🥲

[proven salmon]

has anyone done js qt phne?

[hollow cave]

dm'ed

[serene shore]

Anybody interviewed with citadel Nxt?

[pearl venture]

Anyone interviewed with 2s?

[toxic silo]

anyone interviewed with bridgewater ie send me a dm

[rose holly]

why

[proven salmon]

I have it soon

[vague spear]

Anyone done akuna final round?

[lavish marten]

anyone do geneva oa?

[lavish marten]

which role

[frigid comet]

bumping if anyone has recently done js swe intern phone, curious if you thought it was hard

[grizzled forum]

if anyone has done drw cpp technical, would appreciate dm

[north dragon]

i did the initial tech round last year

for swe

got rejected bc i was being dumb lol

[heavy condor]

i think i fked it up

[frigid comet]

why u think so?

did u solve followups?

[heavy condor]

i only solved one followup

[frigid comet]

oof, any tips on preparing?

[lavish marten]

yeah i did it

they have no business making that so incredibly easy

[fresh swallow]

what's geneva

never heard of that joint

[rugged sand]

Hello

did any one here do the codepair interview for arrowstreet in the past?

I was wondering what to expect/how to study?

[restive forge]

sig swe ng ro 300k 👀

[zenith panther]

:waz:

[tardy shuttle]

Can we select C++ role while applying for HRT SWE intern and do the OA in Python?

[lavish marten]

💀

[normal pulsar]

yo guys i just rejected radix but i got interviews from hrt jane street

anyone got tips

[lavish marten]

@rocky crest does

[normal pulsar]

help a brother out on diddy

[lavish marten]

dm him and specifically mention that i sent u

no diddy

[normal pulsar]

r yall tight like that?

[lavish marten]

💀

[normal pulsar]

like first name basis type shit

[lavish marten]

yeah were best friends

[normal pulsar]

damn the network go crazy

i need some help

[low vault]

wait out of curiosity

is there anything additional after radix final

[lavish marten]

offer

[normal pulsar]

^

[low vault]

(3x60 or whatever you wanna call it)

[low vault]

mfw i realize that not all recruiting processes are de shaw

[normal pulsar]

care to ellaborate

[low vault]

last year de shaw proc was like 2 months lul

[normal pulsar]

i just need some help prepping for hrt and jane street

[low vault]

cos they tack on a bunch of stuff after the final

[normal pulsar]

radix gave me an offer but i might turn it down

[low vault]

interesting

[normal pulsar]

thecompany culture and fit didnt resonate w me

[low vault]

mhmm

wdyt their culture is like

[normal pulsar]

so i feel someone else getting an offer would have been better for everyone

[low vault]

I got good vibes from a networking dinner I went with them

[normal pulsar]

nobody seemed very multi faceted, everyone seemed harsh, and its not worth the slave shifts tbh

[low vault]

multi-faceted?

[normal pulsar]

some workers there might be chill but the ppl i spoke to werent tbh

and they were all the main guys in the location id be at

[low vault]

mhmm

ohhh wait

r u like

amsterdam or smth

[normal pulsar]

bro wtf we fr got beef in this gc before carti dropped

[low vault]

oh

what did you hear about their wlb

[normal pulsar]

nahhhh

[low vault]

i had a friend who interned there who said the FT wlb was pretty good

[normal pulsar]

its nonexistent lmaooooooo

[lavish marten]

why is bro deleting his messages bruh

[low vault]

(like 9-5 tpye shit)

[normal pulsar]

maybe diff location but they didnt let me transfer

[low vault]

oh wait what

[normal pulsar]

also the recruiter was kinda a bitch

[low vault]

which location r u

[lavish marten]

there is no way someone named free diddy till it backwards got radix

[low vault]

wait dm which recruiter do u have im curious now

[normal pulsar]

nyc

[low vault]

er

aren't interns in chicago

[normal pulsar]

id say im a pretty diverse person

[normal pulsar]

nah i meant i got an offer but rejected from hrt, have a jane street interview

[normal pulsar]

not all idt

[low vault]

oh interesting

[normal pulsar]

anyone here worked there

or is everyone here recruitng

you are cracked man

[low vault]

radix?

[normal pulsar]

u going back?

[low vault]

radix has very few eople lol

[normal pulsar]

nah for jane street

[low vault]

ih

[tender zodiac]

wait are you in hrt process too?

[low vault]

you can probably find someone on linkedin, there's a lot more publicity about them

[low vault]

that's a very good question

[tender zodiac]

if you do 3x75 lmk

[low vault]

oh i probably won't get to that point - unless if they do offseason

[proven salmon]

https://x.com/mochi_byte0/status/1837866339182301435

hana matsu (@mochi_byte0) on X

my undergrad researcher decided to become a quant. another great scientist lost to the dark side (happy for them tho)

Twitter · Sep 22, 2024, 2:47 PM

[stone drum]

💀 💀

[zenith panther]

what's wrong with this take

feels like the average nerd these days becomes a quant 😴

[split lintel]

Lmao wtf is that

[stone vector]

bro thought he can get alpha

[low vault]

[lavish marten]

does drw do fall?

[split lintel]

Oohhh dear god im ngmi

[low vault]

yeah im not ng

cos im a waterloo student

😎

[zenith panther]

how long does HRT take to reject

after final

[deep cargo]

Bro doesn’t trust me lol

[lavish marten]

no

[lavish marten]

my cope overcomes facts

[low vault]

be me, drw
no sponsorship

[pulsar basin]

does anyone know if optiver swe intern hiring normally continues until October or do they reach HC earlier?

[pulsar basin]

nah like im at the final

but they scheduled mine in 2 weeks

[pulsar basin]

behavioural at the end of august and then technical last monday

got the final invite yday

[dire arrow]

if u do good they expedite u next cycle right

[tight oasis]

anybody have insight into headlands first phone screen for swe

[brisk ingot]

lc + systems trivia + going into ur past exp

i think it varies tho

[tight oasis]

systems like os?

[brisk ingot]

moreso like during the coding part, got asked if my coding was cache + memory efficient

and then like a discussion abt that

[tight oasis]

fuck i don't remember how cache locality works

[fresh swallow]

wdym multi faceted

probability and stats

linear regression

[glass cedar]

What does BlackEdge new grad quant dev tc look like?

[midnight scroll]

this is cap

friend of mine just got his phone today

llike the email telling them to schedule their phone

Why would they be giving new processes out if they are full?

imc?

[uncut steeple]

@thin temple u wanna hop on vc? i'm prepping too

[vague spear]

Does anyone know if Jane Street is able to expedirte your process if you have final rounds/offers with other companies?

[tall nebula]

they don't expedite for final rounds, only offer deadlines

[fresh swallow]

you used linkedlists, in a swe interview for a trading firm?

idk I accidentally did a quant dev interview and they were asking me some bullshit about how much would you pay to roll this dice if you win when you land on a 3

or if you get a dollar for every dot or something

and then they were like now what if we weight the dice so that you have 1/2 chance of landing on the 1

nd I was like ok whats the chances of landing on the 6 vs 2-5

they were like you gotta figure it out

[fresh swallow]

why are you even interviewing for swe at trading firm if you don't have any interest in optimizing code

[zenith panther]

that's perfectly fine ?

i literally did LRU cache w/ a doubly linked list for cit and i got an offer

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[halcyon zealot]

Read allat encyclopaedia

[halcyon zealot]

You gotta estimate first by some knowledge you know

Like how many people live in some country

[quasi orbit]

Has anyone gotten jump offer?

[proven salmon]

Anyone done JS QT first round!!

[quasi orbit]

We had our first ints like 2-3 weeks ago

[lavish marten]

this is incorrect

[stone vector]

are you a sell side bank swe @rose holly

[proven salmon]

are you a sell side bank swe @rose holly

[stone vector]

swe intern

[pulsar scarab]

I got an IMC referral. Does it do anything or am I too late?

[rough plume]

prob getting close to too late but worth a try surely

[pulsar scarab]

fuuuuu

ck

hmmm about to go spam the hell outta these recruiters

[rough plume]

when i did my final interview there were basically no timeslots left from what i saw

[pulsar scarab]

fuck this shit, he was supposed to refer me i august but proceeded to ghost me for a month T_T

should have just applied without the ref tbh

whatever let's see

[vernal hornet]

some spots do open up later (early-mid october) due to reneges

[haughty oak]

which role

[cyan ridge]

I was sent an invite to interview last week so they are still going

But could just be for backup idk

[vernal hornet]

what’s their response time after final

[haughty oak]

hmm which round

[main totem]

how long after cit first round do you hear back

[cyan ridge]

Recruiter

[neon mirage]

Is 2s NG OA Auto?

[uncut steeple]

is this 'no' from jane street

However, you are still being considered for the Jane Street program(s) you applied for and we will be in touch regarding your application(s) as soon as we can.```

second part just means fuck off and don't apply again or something?

🫡

that second segment is clever honestly

[tranquil wagon]

Jane street is so random, I know people who applied twice with same resume like a month apart and got screened once and phone next time

They don’t like you

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-doesnt-like-you-he-doesnt-like-you-gif-17439381

[uncut steeple]

I think they only take high school math/physics medalists from HYPMS

every single person has fit that mold

[tranquil wagon]

No I’ve seen normal people get it occasionally

[uncut steeple]

jane doesn't even take laterals if I recall an engineer at the firm says the pipeline is exclusively NG

not enough seats or something

whats the comp for seniors at JS

nobody knows lol

[dire arrow]

is small ahh hedge fund trading or big tech swe intern better

for qt screens

[livid wedge]

both are fine qt screens are pretty lenient

[pulsar scarab]

do u ever get a ref or is JS ref useless

AYO WTF IMC FINAL IS IN JAVA?????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!

[heavy condor]

lmao

[uncut steeple]

fuck 'em

not even mad honestly

imagine declining someone from HYPMS for not doing hs math competition

asshats would have rejected June Huh too

[pulsar scarab]

how much time does 2S take to send the OA

[neon mirage]

took me like 2 weeks

[pulsar scarab]

can I dm?

[neon mirage]

yes

[lone umbra]

anyone done imc final qt

need to talk to someone about questions

[fresh swallow]

Mfs act like he said LRU cache prior to me saying that

but you should be aware of why linkedlists are worse than array based data structures if you're interviewing for trading swe lol

i don't even know what that is

[main totem]

How many rounds is cit for QR?

[fresh swallow]

you're way too deep if you're so familiar with job confereces for women you start knowing the abbreviations

[raw creek]

hey does anyone know how to get into contact with a good lawyer to review emplyoment contracts, esp non competes?

[deep cargo]

Everyone in this server is way too deep in

[stone vector]

to be fair GHC is a pretty popular thing

you just simply don't know about it