heard its recruiter dependant
#quants-n-traders
ocean gazelle
trim wharf
I see
turbid vault
Has anyone taken arrowstreet quant dev oa? If so what’s it like please?
sullen jackal
anyone know about gelber group oa for jr trader?
remote trellis
Is 2+ days of wait auto reject?
normal grove
Has anyone taken arrowstreet quant dev oa? If so what’s it like please?
i did it for intern previously, it was 2 lc medium, an lc med/hard, really time constrained
failed on the recruiter call round cuz i said some retarded shit lmfao
turbid vault
i did it for intern previously, it was 2 lc medium, an lc med/hard, really time ...
Damn sounds hella hard
normal grove
Damn sounds hella hard
the hard wasnt technically a hard because the input size was small enough u can get away with a bad impl
so thats why i say mid/hard
remote trellis
Good
turbid vault
the hard wasnt technically a hard because the input size was small enough u can ...
Thank ya, OA was exactly as ya said, spot on thanks
surreal hawk
Anyone here who’s experienced DV tradings OA?
If not what kinds of questions can i expect for a quant firm’s software engineering role
Huge appreciate for anyone shedding some tips
normal grove
If not what kinds of questions can i expect for a quant firm’s software engineer...
is it a c++ firm?
usually quant oa's are either just ur standard leetcode q's, or they will have c++ trivial/python trivia + leetcode
muted topaz
Have you heard back yet?
normal jewel
what did bro cook
brisk ingot
dont u still get to invest in the medallion fund tho
quiet ledge
what do i have to learn and practice to become a quant dev
is big tech level leetcode enough
surreal hawk
is it a c++ firm?
They do both c++ and python but my test is w python
quiet ledge
They do both c++ and python but my test is w python
do you have to know c++ to become a dev?
broken thorn
what did bro cook
might not have been his first time applying, i knwo someone in this server who applied to a cracked place (think hrt, tgs, radix tier, i dont remember exactly), and he got told "come back when youre better at c++" so he just grinded the shit out of a job at google for a few years and then applied again and got in
buoyant phoenix
is there a decent pipeline from faangs/sellside into the buy side firms?
rugged rampart
what did bro cook
Link?
buoyant phoenix
Do referrals make a diff to these firms
surreal hawk
do you have to know c++ to become a dev?
Was at a meetup yesterday and a data scientist from walmart told me quant firms have a lot going w c++, i’d assume within their trading applications. So i guess it depends on who you ask. There are firms that dig for java skills
cyan shoal
Is the geneva trading c++ oa auto?
normal grove
do you have to know c++ to become a dev?
almost all quant firms use c++
except jane st
oblique orbit
If anybody got past sig 2nd phone can u DM me? Trying to figure out where I went wrong
This year
main totem
when was ur call
livid wedge
anyone interview as a swe for citadel gqs?
also has anyone ran into issues with codesignal sharing screen? i allow codesignal to share my screen but for some reason it doesnt detect the screen share and wont let me proceed with the oa
livid wedge
cubist is c++
normal jewel
oblique orbit
when was ur call
Last Friday
livid wedge
whats the radix interview process for c++ technologist intern like?
verbal basin
anyone know what the interview process is like for js qt
stiff girder
damn does radix care about gpa??
i have a 3.3 prolly gonna get rejected lol
thats not low lol
livid wedge
can I dm
stiff girder
noo yea mine def low i was saying urs is not low
stiff girder
damn disrespect
verbal nimbus
has anyone done imc final yet?
cyan shoal
has anyone done imc final yet?
swe or qt?
verbal nimbus
swe or qt?
qt
rose holly
can i dm?
exotic eagle
did anyone do valkyrie oa
void anvil
what are top 5 quant firms ;o
void anvil
HOOLLLYY
drifting granite
Wtf is DONDA
muted topaz
still no update?
ocean gazelle
Wtf is DONDA
Junya pt. 2 ft. Carti
muted topaz
eow next rounds i hope
also idk
i interviewed on tuesday too
london
and it's 2pm in london rn
thought it went well
solved everything + clean code etc etc
livid wedge
What is de shaw interview process like?
normal grove
how long does it take for akuna to respond after oa1?
muted topaz
Ok heard back
candid pier
For jane street swe first round, did you guys get a similar email
Thx
It's just interview lop
wintry tendon
For jane street swe first round, did you guys get a similar email
Yikes
This is the email u get when they are hesitant
Good luck bro…..
woeful ibex
Scheduled Akuna quant dev intern final round on 10/18, is that too late? Should I ask for reschedule earlier…
candid pier
This is the email u get when they are hesitant
Wdym
sick salmon
uber pricing team is lowk a good answer
odd patio
Why is there such a difference?
nocturne socket
^same question
azure zenith
Anyone done headlands process / know more about the company?
grand crater
Anyone done headlands process / know more about the company?
My gf got to final round they expect you to be cracked at C++
azure zenith
My gf got to final round they expect you to be cracked at C++
Even for quant developer? they said it's py/java
was she going for swe or quant dev
grand crater
Oh nvm then yeah swe
quasi orbit
i dont want cs gf
quasi orbit
i got rejected in 2 minutes
bitter ember
anyone know what de shaw new grad swe first round is like or got any tips for it? not too sure what to expect, haven't heard much about it 😦
nova dust
Sig sent me this so is it over now?
rose holly
Sig sent me this so is it over now?
nova dust
😢sad
uncut steeple
Sig sent me this so is it over now?
it's the same person that reached out to me
if it makes u feel any better sig isn't tier 1 payband
nova dust
it's the same person that reached out to me
It’s bot
I don’t mind pay bro I want to break it into quant bro
nova dust
🥺first
Just initial stage
Swe and in trader they didn’t even consider me
So no chance for me?
Btw any clue for Optiver oa?
Okay bro
uncut steeple
trust me I probably have it worse than u rn @nova dust
nova dust
Why bro what’s issue
nova dust
I see hopefully things work out for both of us
nova dust
Intern
cyan shoal
some i think
aced it
hopefully offer next week
also got imc qt final
heard back from js?
u finished ctc too?
like reject or just havent heard back?
yea got final from imc today
have qt final wed next week
runic grotto
quasi orbit
rip
cyan shoal
lol bro just exposed the whole ass interview in the middle of discord
@rugged rampart do u have offer?
or when did u do interview?
rugged rampart
Not me, a friend
cyan shoal
oh ok does he/she have offer?
rugged rampart
And today
rugged rampart
Can I dm
cyan shoal
yea fs
sonic abyss
if it makes u feel any better sig isn't tier 1 payband
?
if anyone knows what js qr final round looks like plz hmu
runic grotto
if anyone knows what js qr final round looks like plz hmu
qr 🤔
sonic abyss
yeah
sonic abyss
if anyone knows what js qr final round looks like plz hmu
qr intern*
cyan shoal
can i dm about qt?
faint plover
Hi! I’m curious about quant researchers and developers but idk much about it. Is there anything like good starter course to get to know it more, or a learning opportunity/internship?
cyan shoal
has anyone heard back from aqr
lyric loom
OTZ
muted topaz
positive
trim wharf
80 swe interns for js
trim wharf
Possible yeah, i was told during my final that this summer they had 80 swe interns
cyan shoal
Im ngl coding in ocaml sounds so rope
rustic cloak
can you talk about those tools/apps in interviews or even put them on resume? or is it NDA
azure zenith
LTL one is quite cool
haven't really seen many places where LTL is used, but here is a cool case
low vault
MFW Java time 🥺
rugged rampart
Anyone know what to expect for cit final
rugged rampart
Thanks bro
rose holly
All these projects are just oss work on ocaml
Most back office stuff ever tbh but at js it doesn’t matter, you still make bank
grand crater
Ironically I have a friend in my PhD program who was ex HRT and he is obsessed with Galois theory and category theory 😂
Wants to do category theory for quantum NLP and colabbing with some Brit’s
broken thorn
the dream is academia with income supplemented by summer quant Internships
broken thorn
at that point u just have a pretty decent single person salary
boreal tartan
Find a gf at hrt
trim wharf
You right yeah
upbeat forum
anyone know the codesignal cutoff for HRT Algo dev?
trim wharf
anyone know the codesignal cutoff for HRT Algo dev?
I interviewed last year all but one case on last q if that helps
rose holly
the dream is academia with income supplemented by summer quant Internships
that is a nightmare
if ur wasting summers during ur phd doing quant internships ur ngmi
broken thorn
if ur wasting summers during ur phd doing quant internships ur ngmi
how else can you afford food during phd?
rose holly
stipend
broken thorn
stipend
more than half of these phd programs put you in the negative
if you only go for guaranteed stipend, now only 9 unis put you in the positive
rose holly
lots of these schools arent worth going to
losing ~2k yearly isn't that bad, you'll pay that off with any job after phd lol
also u can do research internships at big companies
rose holly
i mean ur still publishing
broken thorn
doing 3 months unrealted research every year
rose holly
u will do related research
broken thorn
10-15k a year of extra money isnt the worst
ur not rich like ud be in industry, but youre not as much of a broke college student either
rose holly
no..
either professor, research startup, or industry research
if u do phd dont touch qr
runic grotto
either professor, research startup, or industry research
Do you know how much research startups are paying phds these days?
rose holly
Do you know how much research startups are paying phds these days?
mostly equity
but a lot
ik openai at least is like
900k
tc
runic grotto
💀
rose holly
but thats openai
runic grotto
Yeah
grand crater
do cs people have to do postdocs to get tenure track?
Depends on year, some years market is ez other years postdoc is mandatory
broken thorn
that sucks so much LMAO
its not like normal job market
where "oh markets slow let me get a masters and wait'
what are they gonna do, get a second phd? 😂
grand crater
Postdoc is a total scam too you get 64k a year at NYU for example
grand crater
But for example another lab I know that’s funded by Rentech has 120k a year post docs
broken thorn
once ur tenured prof all the postdocs and phd students do ur research for you
broken thorn
But for example another lab I know that’s funded by Rentech has 120k a year post...
postdoc pay is decided by the government i think
they cap it at 47k-64k i think (might be a little off on the exact numbrs)
grand crater
I think it’s university dependent, some universities have a cap others don’t
PhD stipends are capped always
Cuz they consider “tuition fees” as part of our stipend 😂
So according to them we make 80k a year or however much school tuition + stipend is
hot dove
anyone know how long it takes to hear back from sig qt after second round?
graceful belfry
Has anyone done DRW qt oa? What do they ask?
normal grove
optiver oa was so bm lmfao
normal grove
Has anyone done DRW qt oa? What do they ask?
it was 3 lc medium
o wait
qt
nvm
i did swe
graceful belfry
yh the qt one they said its a quantitative assessment
normal grove
dont qt stuff usually ask like probability questions and then like mental math and shit
graceful belfry
i think the mental maths is more for trader role
I think it will be probability stuff, im just asking like what sort of questions because that covers a hugeee range
bitter ember
yeah i took it last week
90 min codesignal, 4 questions
id say all mediums
i think they were all pulled from the gca q3/q4 bank, but the q3 questions had stricter time limits
normal grove
i think the mental maths is more for trader role
inst qt quant trader?
rose holly
do cs people have to do postdocs to get tenure track?
almost never
if ur down bad u do a postdoc
drw is always a shit firm
theyve screwed over their interns 2 years in a row now
dont work there
also they booby trap their oas
shit ass company
yea
they put most of their interns on ficc
rugged rampart
also they booby trap their oas
Squircle
rose holly
which had room for 5 intern converts
😆
surely drw is a well planned internship
ya fair
i interviewed for them for that reason too
just wanna waste their time
broken thorn
almost never
thats mucb better than physics then, glad at least one science field is less predatory
rose holly
im p sure cit has by far the best accomodations
cyan shoal
damn
tbf to drw my friend got put in an $800 hotel for swe
not saying they good
but they didnt do him dirty on the flight
or hotel
rose holly
tbf to drw my friend got put in an $800 hotel for swe
is there even an 800 hotel in chicago wtf
cyan shoal
is there even an 800 hotel in chicago wtf
maybe only $800 for a larger room and he got put in a 2/3 occupancy 400-500
remember it was very nice
cyan shoal
@blissful kite why tf u bothering with drw
lol
u got sm better
damn
did they give u final
or just say ur still underconsideraiton
my friend has been ghosted after phone for almost 2 months now
legit nothing
bro was like the first mf in this discord to do drw swe phone
been in ghost hell since
bro boutta put his offer up there
receive the reject immediately
isnt first swe superday 28th
are u qt with them?
grand crater
My dream is to go to their Montreal team, I met their NLP ppl who are in Montreal incredibly based
cyan shoal
ohh ok got it
rugged rampart
My dream is to go to their Montreal team, I met their NLP ppl who are in Montrea...
Meta?
grand crater
Nah DRW
rugged rampart
Oh msft has a nice Montreal nlp team
normal grove
does something ur not supposed to do and gets caught
yea fuck the other people
cyan shoal
Wtf do they hate me
are u swe or qt?
swe is virtual
oh ok
idek if i want virtual or not
hopefully in perosn
graceful belfry
inst qt quant trader?
my bad i meant quant research
low vault
nyc u spend 9000000000000000/night on a hotel thats like u can get for like 150 cad here
sick bolt
half pay hurts
is drw even doing internships in montreal this year, only saw the ng ones
low vault
whoops i spent the trip stressin abt how i had too much schoolwork due
still got to visit some stuff tho
hushed pulsar
also they booby trap their oas
how so?
like ur not supposed to get it right or smtg?
haughty hinge
like ur not supposed to get it right or smtg?
Yeah
analog ravine
hey what are the benefits of trading comps (besides putting it on your resume)
astral breach
big moneys
grand crater
The cs influencers are pushing quant now wow 💀💀💀
Nah I just dislike the obsession with “400-500k” salary
Speaking of influencers has anyone tried quantguide?
I saw some tik tok quant influencer video and she was also pushing it
The questions look okay idk if it’s worth getting premium tho
Based profile quote btw
grand crater
deep cargo
^ people are delusional
azure zenith
"very common"???
deep cargo
exactly, oppenheimer is a unparalleled genius who was obsessed with his work, js interview caliber stuff is an insult to him
he'd love to bring liquidity to the markets
azure zenith
"very common"???
they're delusional if they think that 400k new grad is even "common" lmao
introducing quant to more people ✅
misrepresenting it or saying it's common to get in ❌
depends on firm
some firms will just give
shouldn't expect anything tbf
market conditions usually don't affect it
not that short term at least
especially new grad offers
they'll just give out fewer if they're not doing as well
but ye i think more should know about quant/hft, but definitely not through tiktok "how to get 400k a year (GUARANTEED)" type reels
rose holly
💀
cyan shoal
I mean qt 400k new grad recurring is tough ya would say 300-350k more common
But at certain firms can def get 400 recurring
mellow aurora
dude i can't stand career influencers
all they know is shill comp, eat ad revenue, charge they phone, and lie
on the real getting very sick of the "omg my friend makes so much money at jane street" 🤪
"wowwww, my friend makes so much moneyyy guys isn't that crazy that poor people existtt"
rose holly
"wowwww, my friend makes so much moneyyy guys isn't that crazy that poor people ...
bro saw a thrifthouse tiktok
why give homeless people money for food if u can bless them with a leetcode premium subscription
passive income for the ppl running it
ppl who pay for quantguide ngmi anyway
yes
prestigious marriage solos all outcomes basically
but if ur a pooron no one is gonna marry u
cant jump crudbob -> prestigious marriage
mellow aurora
bro saw a thrifthouse tiktok
it was the girl that talked about her friends noncompete
like a month after posting a crying video about how she refused her js offer
rose holly
yea lol
one of my friends was dating a chaebol
but got dumped
bc too poor
her dad said he'd disown her if she married him
and that was the end of that
yea
ur a grunt
crudbob solos tbh
2 hours of work a week
u come home play league of legends for 10 hours
doordash some food
good spouse is very hard for crudbob
like u cant necessarily marriage max going state school low gpa -> crud swe
cant expect a top 0.1% outcome while being mid
oh
xd
there is no point
u chase prestige to chase more prestige
bro thinks im kidding
rich
yes
thats what i said
rose holly
good spouse is very hard for crudbob
^^
if ur crudbob ft
its probably over
just play league of legends
play some fizz
rose holly
play some fizz
@queen pendant thoughts?
wintry tendon
damn, sux that oppenheimer wouldnt even get to see it
rose holly
when do u start?
late bear
how bad is the js qt final
rose holly
welcome to my life
but yeah surely ill marry rich
pulling up to the google office in this
candid pier
what topics should i prepare for jane street coding questions
sonic abyss
when u goin
wintry tendon
tbf js phone is just like
say random words until trader says 'sounds reasonable'
and that means u passed
uneven narwhal
anybody do 2nd millennium phone screen? recruiter one went well, but doing it with person who's head of the lead program next
static sandal
Has Jane street contacted everyone they were gonna contact for quant at this point
lyric loom
static sandal
So im guessing yes
Fuck, I applied and didn’t get a scheudlong email :///
Scheudlong
S ounds German
A few days ago
Quant lol
Oh well 🤷♂️
What other quant roles have you guys applied for
ripe tinsel
is GS QR auto
grand crater
Lowkey G Research seems cracked despite their internal paranoia??
static sandal
Ty broski
normal grove
why must they do me like this
(ik theres 3 rounds)
will it be the same as oa 1?
normal grove
which firm is this
akuna
ocean gazelle
hmm everywhere ive heard its 3
i finished c++ process and I had 2
normal grove
so only been 1 business day
normal grove
i finished c++ process and I had 2
was oa2 different than oa1?
ocean gazelle
was oa2 different than oa1?
content diff, but similar style
difficulty was slightly easier imo but that’s prob just variance in content
normal grove
so a bunch of mc and then 3 lc?
normal grove
i c
ocean gazelle
I don’t remember but might be slightly harder time wise
Anyways you don’t have to do perf on OA2
normal grove
i dont think i did perf on oa1 lol
my cpp trivia is not that good
i wish i did omc rn
way more prepared than when i first had the oa lol
ocean gazelle
r u applying to ng
normal grove
theres like 3 rounds where i wont be speaking to an actual person right
normal grove
r u applying to ng
yea ng
ocean gazelle
ah then idk
normal grove
ok i c
normal grove
got it
verbal kettle
ABD capital managament >>>>>
cyan ridge
SIG >>>>>>
normal grove
does 2s do hft/market making?
azure zenith
2s 😂📉
stable radish
where ren tech and OMC
astral breach
and desco 😦
void sorrel
Optiver = IMC for swe since optiver tech isn’t as good and you’re second class
I heard this directly from people with offers and that have worked there. Unless they changed it
turbid vault
Anyone know what arrowstreet quant dev code pair interview is like? Please hit me up lol
rugged rampart
Congrats on 2s
azure zenith
Optiver = IMC for swe since optiver tech isn’t as good and you’re second class
didn't get this feeling when I was there
maybe office dependent?
TC is now relatively inline
void sorrel
Marbles aren’t 50/50 tho
void sorrel
Globally or just in Amsterdam?
azure zenith
I can't speak global tbh, just ams.
void sorrel
Cause someone I know that had new grad offer said he heard its not even
But maybe he got old news
azure zenith
From who I've spoken to also, the general consensus is that at the end of the career you'll on average make more as swe anyway, because it's far more sustainable long term
Trading average time is like 3-4 years, more of an outlier to go on for 5-10+
Whereas tech it's usually the opposite
Not specific to Optiver*
azure zenith
Cause someone I know that had new grad offer said he heard its not even
For AMS?
azure zenith
isn't their performance quite bad?
I hold no credibility here
Just rumours of bad performance and bad tc
severe talon
Marbles aren’t 50/50 tho
even if they aren't, what's the issue with this?
kinda makes sense for the people actually bringing in the money to be paid more and i say this as a dev
i've seen people online say "at X firm devs are second class" about basically every firm, including the one i was at, but it doesn't line up with the experiences of people i've spoken to at these firms in almost all cases
i mean how are we defining it
if second class means "paid less than the traders on average" then sure
azure zenith
i've seen people online say "at X firm devs are second class" about basically ev...
+1
severe talon
but i think usually when people talk about a role being "second class" they mean in terms of culture and how people view the role. so if my experience of the culture doesn't make it feel like the role is second class then i don't think it is
azure zenith
if second class means "paid less than the traders on average" then sure
this is what 99.99% of people in these circles think about solely
severe talon
reality is 90% of people who say things like this online haven't worked at any of these firms and are just repeating something they heard from a friend's cousin's friend's goldfish's aunt
azure zenith
^^^^^^^^^
also this idea of SWEs "working just for" traders is bs, and if it isn't, you're at a terrible culture company
it's collaborative
severe talon
fr people seem to think "swe at quant firm" = " traders' bitch"
azure zenith
fr people seem to think "swe at quant firm" = " traders' bitch"
first year student at university who has never met anyone in person working at these companies
opaque sable
what firm do you work at
azure zenith
CSCD Investments LLC
I heard they outperform rentech
BRUH HAHAHA
No wonder you have this perspective on SWEs
bank culture 📉📉📉
opaque sable
I didn’t expect that hahah
severe talon
oh my apologies, swe there are definitely second class
azure zenith
like there is a whole other circle on the Venn diagram for bank SWEs, they do not have it well
severe talon
rose holly
I LOVE SWES
@queen pendant if swes arent second class at a firm i dont wanna work there
rose holly
why is js swe so high
long raft
Tbh sell side swe has also quite interesting work. Since nowadays trading happens electronically and some buy side firms don’t have DMA, so they need sell side to be good.
I think people just want buy side because you get paid more (no judgement I would want also more money). I bet people in an alternative universe where sell said pays big money everyone says “sell side is the best”
long raft
sell side does make big money tho no?
Yeah they all make great money!
turbid vault
How was the code pair lol?
woeful ibex
jane street TPO intern take home project
anyone also interviewing for this position?
drifting granite
Anyone selling Jane street, hrt, or jump blind accounts?
azure zenith
Anyone selling Jane street, hrt, or jump blind accounts?
What lmaooo
somber sky
Anyone done the sig QR OA here ?
cyan ridge
What would having a blind account even do?
deep cargo
howd it go?
azure zenith
same day call or next day
pallid lodge
does any1 know if u need to travel for the in person interview
or will a recruiter come to ur school?
and if so will they cover the cost?
severe talon
they'll cover the cost of your travel and accommodation if you go in person
quasi orbit
qt?
pallid lodge
yeah
trim wharf
Anyone know the imc ro for swe?
wintry tendon
definitely not for trading
id imagine swe is the same but could be wrong
gl homie
r u sure baller
ye
df told me lower idk
15k signing is p sweet
sig too insane for that
🥲
recitation was not worth it dude i promise
that was so ass
no i go to poverty uni
vernal hornet
baller is MIT
sonic abyss
MIT Quantum Physics PhD
void sorrel
reality is 90% of people who say things like this online haven't worked at any o...
The people I know are actually working at these firms. It’s not just from a pay perspective it’s also an attitude/collaborative viewpoint as well at some firms
Yes it’s more of a culture problem. But that culture problem affects swes more negatively than traders is the point
runic grotto
akuna c++ swe intern or principal engineer at c1
Why is this even a question
You can lateral to other principal swe from c1
normal grove
How long does akuna take after 1st phone
r u for ng or intern?
thin bramble
C++ intern
pallid lodge
GL
unique galleon
Anyone know how long it takes for jump to get back after final?
quasi orbit
Anyone know how long it takes for jump to get back after final?
fast
unique galleon
Thanks
next shore
Has anyone heard back from jump for qr?
cyan shoal
has anyone done imc qt final?
cyan shoal
actually scratch that just dm me
rose holly
pls dm me
cyan shoal
lol what
normal grove
has anyone done imc qt final?
my friend signed an offer for imc qt ng
plush trout
Hey
long raft
Is the process the same for SWE (aka multiple phone and then onsite final)?
quasi orbit
SWE is one phone
long raft
SWE is one phone
Is it possible do to the whole process in a week? 😂 How long does it take for them to come back to you after phone?
quasi orbit
1 day
azure zenith
Is it possible do to the whole process in a week? 😂 How long does it take for t...
I did it entirely from Friday to Tuesday
Swe phone Friday, response in the afternoon, final on Tuesday
long raft
I did it entirely from Friday to Tuesday
Wow that’s quick!
azure zenith
I did pressure them with an offer & other processes
long raft
And how fast is citadel?
woeful ibex
anyone have done Jane St phone interview? Like the brain teaser stuff
azure zenith
And how fast is citadel?
meh
slower
maybe 1-2 weeks? I withdrew from it midway
but they were slower at responding, not by much though so maybe it's just the recruiter
long raft
Wait they need 2 weeks after first phone to get back to you? 😱😱😱
azure zenith
oh no
i just meant the process lol
i didn't bother doing their oa and they sent me an interview invite a week later
🤷
long raft
Hahaah so you didn’t do the OA and they invited you for an interview?? Sounds like a cheat code 😂😂
severe talon
i did the oa a month ago, told them i had a competing offer and have got radio silence from them
ocean gazelle
same but still no response
stiff girder
3 weeks for qt and it’s faster 💀
3 weeks for the entire process
from 2 phones to final to offer lmao
azure zenith
Hahaah so you didn’t do the OA and they invited you for an interview?? Sounds li...
Yep
I looked at the email and thought fuck that
Then got an interview
And then I withdrew because I just don't want to work there
the money for there doesnt matter enough Vs the loss of hair and time lmao
for me
normal jewel
autumn aspen
it’s been 1.5mo for me
ahh really after phone?
deep cargo
you've made it, i think
normal jewel
is Akuna OA2 no resume screen
cyan shoal
Ik its memes but is hrt still amazing with how bad theyve been doing
long raft
Tbh you can’t generalise that for any firm. Every firm has a team working intense hours and other teams working low hours.
upbeat forum
like good is 40 hrs a week
What do you think lmao
median mauve
beast
azure zenith
is optiver wlb good
Ye
Pretty good for the industry
9-5:30, 6-7 latest
They don't really care about your hours as long as you're productive
Some would leave before 5, or come in at 10
drifting granite
like good is 40 hrs a week
Idk if you can expect that with any quant firm
Maybe sig as a swe but you’d make less than big tech
broken thorn
Idk if you can expect that with any quant firm
how can u be solidly productive for that many bours a week? or is it like 60 hour week where 20 of them are meetings and emails and being blocked?
azure zenith
how can u be solidly productive for that many bours a week? or is it like 60 hou...
Wdym
I think you'll find that with developers you meet the quality of their work far exceeds what an average dev could do in the same time.
and furthermore different developers work in different ways, for example I can't really focus for more than 1-2 hours continuously, so every now and then I get up to walk around and chat or something
But in the time I am working, I work quite fast
broken thorn
yeye
thats why im sus about the large work numbers
im no jane street employee or anything (understatement of the century), but i get by on barely 10 or 15 solid hours a week of being focused and productive
normal grove
U will get pip'd
drifting granite
how can u be solidly productive for that many bours a week? or is it like 60 hou...
from my exp theres a lot less formal meetings in quant
you do get breaks in the middle and no one is monitoring when you badge in or out
but you need to get the work done
vernal talon
Ik its memes but is hrt still amazing with how bad theyve been doing
^ i have the same question
somber sky
I cannot be productive for more than 6/7 hours a day. I don’t know how ppl work that many hours tbh
dry sequoia
I cannot be productive for more than 6/7 hours a day. I don’t know how ppl work ...
stimulants
silk girder
Quick q does anyone know what the OA for Jane Street’s strategy and product intern program is about? I can't find any info on it
lyric loom
azure zenith
im no jane street employee or anything (understatement of the century), but i ge...
look
If your work in that time is efficient then you can make it work, but it needs to be equivalent to others in their respective time
like I spend less time focusing but the time I do focus is quite intense
also perhaps look into a dietary change / more sports / medication if needed to get your productivity up
Things like even going outside for a walk over lunch helped me maintain energy
and food in the office was quite good
also barista bar ever 10m lmao
Which location?
Noiceee
Intern or ft?
Ah cool, enjoy!
ocean gazelle
oh damn
livid wedge
what is drw swe super day like
cyan shoal
what is drw swe super day like
Boutta find out in 2 days
livid wedge
i actually dk what to expect lol
ruby cypress
anyone else not heard back from IMC after applying late august? haven't even gotten OA
rose holly
stop ur at citadel
rose holly
anyone else not heard back from IMC after applying late august? haven't even got...
swe?
normal jewel
the valkyrie OA seems impossible to get 100% in 45 minutes damn
deep cargo
openai... 🙏
normal jewel
is geneva OA auto
deep cargo
is geneva OA auto
think so
cyan shoal
think so
tbh i think so but idt they even resume screen then
i got phone 30 min after submitting oa
deep cargo
i got phone 30 min after submitting oa
they prolly screen after the recruiter call
cyan shoal
yea fair
limber scarab
how long does optiver take to respond after the first technical?
fast gazelle
@lyric loom orz
pallid lodge
what firms allow off season
late bear
Great template
nova dust
Why is Optiver oa so hard
Yeah
I mean in sense
I could just pass two test cases no matter what edge case I thought about
rose holly
I think he was asking about good firms
runic grotto
🤔
runic grotto
For snowflake?
thin bramble
Is Jump filled for summer24
A friend said they are filled when I asked for referral
wintry tendon
just say u dont go to uiuc lol
nova dust
Is citadel oa auto?(asking cause I got like 5 or 6 days after applying)
I see so even after passing all tests there is no guarantee?
hot dove
how long does it typically take to hear back from sig after second phone?
ocean gazelle
lsat year only 1/4 of interns at jump were from uiuc
1/4 is pretty large no?
deep cargo
1/4 is pretty large no?
no it should've been 100%
clear grove
I see so even after passing all tests there is no guarantee?
passing all test cases from what i know is guaranteed phone
runic grotto
^
nova dust
passing all test cases from what i know is guaranteed phone
I see hopefully things will work out
rose holly
unless you are like that 300iq cf guy who got 2nd in IOI
nova dust
passing all test cases from what i know is guaranteed phone
Btw in case if I receive phone what preparation I need to do? Guys please lmk
clear grove
lol maybe school diff idk
ripe tinsel
is valk trading hackerrank auto
normal grove
does anyone know if gts sent anything for junior c++ in chiraq?
nova dust
Coding questions are super short but time is super short too
ripe tinsel
don't they only have trading roles open?
qr
broken thorn
calc 2 has some hard bits, knowing which u substitution to try is pure intuition
and understanding why Taylor serieses matter enough to care is pretty hard too
upbeat forum
calc 2 has some hard bits, knowing which u substitution to try is pure intuition
Integration ❤️
broken thorn
?
viral peak
calc 2 has some hard bits, knowing which u substitution to try is pure intuition
u sub was simple for me
Partial fractions got me
Mainly because I don’t recall it being taught in high school
broken thorn
ye partial fractions is just plug and chug but u gotta remember from precalc
viral peak
ye partial fractions is just plug and chug but u gotta remember from precalc
Yeah my teacher didn’t go over that in pre calc lol
broken thorn
u sub is usually straightforward but theres no cookie cutter method to find them
sometimes you just have to experiemnt with 5 different ones
viral peak
Yeah
Calc 2 wasn’t hard really
I was nervous because everyone hyped it up to be bad
swift mantle
does anyone know if gts sent anything for junior c++ in chiraq?
Lol They have a chicago office?
ruby cypress
how is imc qt oa?
uneven narwhal
could anyone who's gone thru millennium final rnd dm me
honest pawn
Complex integration>>>>
If I could teach it to each calc2 student to cheat their professors out of giving them misery
I would
My man cauchy was dropping some straight fire 200 yrs ago frfr
nocturne socket
Cauchy rlly did everything 💀
broken thorn
If I could teach it to each calc2 student to cheat their professors out of givin...
my god, so many saved tears
integration by parts 3 times and then substituting the integral for x is like the only way to solve trig int by parts
complex is so much better
normal jewel
hate calc 3 way more than calc 2
next shore
Is there anyone i can dm about sig qt final
rotund glacier
@primal shell congrats on IMC !!
thin bramble
How long does akuna take to update from c++ phone 1
languid drum
anyone here do imc swe final? got mine coming up
candid pier
did anyone hear back from jump for first round
quasi orbit
optiver is better
wintry tendon
the recruiters make them lol
when i ghosted my recruiter i got a second one
efficient dutch machine
they know how to pull at your heartstrings
lilac osprey
anyone know how many rounds desco has for data analyst positions? so far i've had phone, case study, hm 1:1, 3 1:1's with team, and they just asked me for additional availability for 1.5-2.5 hours. just want to know general timeline
static musk
pretty positive this should be a pass
but optiver swe intern > imc swe intern imo even with optiver being more "trader-centric"
lilac osprey
do they do references / code sample for every technical role? or just swe/qt
wintry tendon
i was told imc ro is lower
like a bit over 50 for swe
i mean imc is not expanding and doing poorly while optiver seems to be doing fine and is expanding
so would be weird if imc was higher
brave vessel
anyone know how many interview rounds there are for imc qd summer internship?
wintry tendon
hopefully a lot dude
but idk my only insight is that it was like 2.5k before covid and like 6k in 2020
u wanna sell me some insurance
astral breach
i too am getting ghosted but after leadership
been 9 days
anyone know what desco asks in the 45 min first round?
median mauve
u get cit?
astral breach
heh what is that
like sysdesign?
oh swe
i got 1 easy, 1 meds, 1 medium/hard, and 1 hard
in 2 hrs
ngl it was kinda bad
nah
some price matrix problem
i got full in non-hidden test cases but p sure i TLEd on hidden ones lmao
hackerrank > codesignal > codility
livid wedge
was the price matrix problem like identify crosses
astral breach
nah
pseudo marten
offer call??
wintry tendon
cant be a bad sign
shell gazelle
Save some offers for the rest of us
stiff girder
u dont need to u got optiver
say gimme my offer otherwise imma go with ur competitor
exactly
cyan shoal
yea @lime zealot its standard
they have the same shit for qt
qt you do the final technicals in the morning they tell u in the afternoon if you passed or not and if you did you have final behavioral in the evening
I would assume final behavioral is a gimme as long as u dont do anything egregious
cursive spruce
is quant swe easier than qt
yea
just feel like i have no time for all this math as a cs major
for qt
what are they just leetcode hards? for swe
i thought qt is all probability interviews
so how did u learn that in hs
its more higher level stuff obviously
making a market on your question, sports betting, kelly criterion
bro how
optiver 80 in 8 right
Imma start my own hedge fund
or market maker
optiver 80 in 8 is trickier bc of decimals ig but thats it
mulitple choice makes it easier
runic grotto
You just need a bit of prep
In a week you could probably get all 80
Yes in discrete math
Yeah fair
cursive spruce
Im in discretea nd all we do is prove stuff
no probability
i need to take one next sem
Oh also anyone know what the optiver reaction time test is
i heard ab that it sounds hilarious
runic grotto
I think in general having the ability to quickly do some mental computations can be useful in qt interviews just for sanity check
late bear
80 in 8 demon
quasi orbit
if i am sigma male, can i get two sigma?
stray leaf
azure zenith
cringe
wintry tendon
swe is just way more preppable right
just take every systems and algorithms class + get top internship summer before
vernal hornet
anyone gotten hrt swe phone yet?
slender bluff
how long does desco reference check usually take, do they call all them in one day and then make decision after? @low vault
wintry thorn
Did anyone receive Cutler group 15 min test?
wintry tendon
yeah like these arent hard requirements right
i just mean like u need to know a lot of stuff and usually people have a decent internship before
wintry tendon
Yeah like it’s probably harder lol
I just mean like if someone asks u how do I get quant swe u can give meaningful advice to prep
Vs trading it’s just like idk go to mit and get the question bank
Or have insane intuition
low vault
how long does desco reference check usually take, do they call all them in one d...
dunno took like a month for me
slender bluff
can i dm you @low vault
low vault
swe
astral breach
deshaw interview hella fun ngl
quasi orbit
Anyone do radix final
trim wharf
Anyone do radix final
cracked
quasi orbit
Is it just low level stuff?
stiff girder
standard in the sense that they can talk about resume and/or 2 probability/stats questions
nope
they might make u explain an algo no actual coding
rose holly
deshaw interview hella fun ngl
swe?
bitter ember
logic puzzle + LC easy-ish + behavioral
huh interesting, mine was behavioral + 3 lc (1 easy, one med, one hard), was yours for intern or new grad?
mine was ng yeah
ah okay gotcha gotcha thanks
astral breach
yeah intern
sonic abyss
they also ask behavioral
so be ready for some ‘talk to me about a time u failed to complete a commitment to a team member’ or bullshit
Dont you need sys design
void sorrel
Optiver has sys design
Cit doesn’t really
It’s mostly leetcode + whatever is on your resume
graceful belfry
How long does it take to hear back from citadel? Submitted about week or 2 ago. For OA
void sorrel
But if you get sys design from them it’s usually cause you’ve got something on your resume related to it
wintry tendon
what would it mean to have sys design on your resume
other than like i was the lead architect of google maps
wicked zephyr
Has anyone taken the Hackerrank for Two Sigma for quant researcher campus hire
How trivial?
neat junco
nova dust
Has hrt started giving oa?
buoyant phoenix
It’s mostly leetcode + whatever is on your resume
What kind of leetcode questions
And does language matter
left sentinel
has anyone heard back from blackrock for quantitative investing?
cyan shoal
That question i just got asked in js qt r3 was the hardest fucking qt question ive ever seen/gotten
wtaf
sonic abyss
@late igloo
grand crater
!process sig got rejected, sent an email saying hi here is my research, recruiter replied and wants to set up interview 😂
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tame shore
has anyone heard anything after valkyrie qr oa?
wooden zephyr
empty burrow
Brittany Rhoa from HRT been ghosting me about my algo dev intern application, anyone else? I applied 4 weeks ago 😢
potent iron
Anyone doing equity analyst at optiver?
stiff girder
none of em
stiff girder
did you pass phone
nope lol
stiff girder
what do you think you did not do good
no idea tbh got rejecetd after recruiter call
dusty jetty
no idea tbh got rejecetd after recruiter call
Wait it didn’t go OA -> technical for u?
dusty jetty
standard in the sense that they can talk about resume and/or 2 probability/stats...
I was referencing this comment
stiff girder
Did you fail that after phone
naa not yet
dusty jetty
As in you got final?
stiff girder
2nd phone
stiff girder
any idea why?
no idea tbh lool
fast walrus
static sandal
when the application asks if you won a math/science olympiad
supple hare
anyone go through optiver OA?
nova dust
Is hrt oa proctored?
undone violet
That question i just got asked in js qt r3 was the hardest fucking qt question i...
can i dm?
wintry tendon
yo
facts dude
school has kinda been shitting on me recently
no poker in a week
going to class never worth it
haughty hinge
Has anyone interviewed for Cit qr intern? Preferably for the GFI execution team