#quants-n-traders

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bleak terrace
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most quant positions

sullen falcon
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Bruh

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Already

uncut steeple
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you need better things to do with your life

proper wedge
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Thank you for your application.

We’re regret to inform you that the team has decided to move on with other candidates. It is a difficult decision for us. While your experience and skills are strong and impressive, the recruiting process is competitive in nature.

We wish you all the success in your future career.

get this from point72, wonder if it is true or just polite words

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took me much time to write a cover letter, and now tell me they've moved on with other candidates

winged aurora
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anybody heard of this small trading firm called Qube Research & Technologies?

opaque sable
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i've never got past the oa stage despite 100%ing it though

winged aurora
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hmmm i see never rlly heard of them before but the recruiter asked me to go on site for an interview lmao

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maybe they r expanding

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seems like a lot of ppl dont rlly hv good experiences interviewing w them

scenic bison
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every company gaslights with rejection emails and say similar things sadly

proper wedge
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oh I hate it

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gaslighting

runic grotto
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You are now permanently blacklisted from our company

long raft
opaque sable
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i must be blacklisted from 80% of companies

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😔

broken thorn
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fail interview= get destroyed by the QRTs

opaque sable
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their recruiter viewed my linkedin profile right after the oa and then ghosted me for 2 months then rejected

long raft
long raft
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Happens to me all the time 🥲

livid wedge
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does anyone have any experience working at cubist/p72? how do they compare to the rest of the industry

ocean gazelle
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Went to a p72 recruitment event and the recruiter basically said p72 is data focused while cubist is a general systematic quant firm that uses p72 data

livid wedge
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any idea on what ft comp looks like for cubist?

signal bloom
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need a little bit of suggestion: (Its gonna be like a reddit post T_T)
I'm an international student (Freshman) studying CS and Math at a small school. I was got an internship which pays $21 an hour and I have to pay for housing and all other things. (IT intern working with Business analytics and GIS)
I've another SWE internship which is unpaid but remote. So, I can live with my uncle w/o paying anything. I was wondering which opportunity to take if I'm planning to follow the Quant trader/SWE path.
for the context: I'll have to pay 14k to my college next year by myself

broken thorn
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is this a valid solution to a 3d packing problem? my soln is:

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||label each dimension's 6 boxes A,B,C,D,A,B. each 1x1x4 must occupy exactly one A, one B, one C, one D for the dimension it goes 4 into. from this cube, we can see that there are exactly 8 boxes on the edge that involve only A and B (A^3, three A^2Bs, three AB^2s, and one B^3), and 8 boxes at the beginning that do the same. in one dimension we cannot fit any blocks that use AA or BB, which means there are at least 8 blocks that cannot be filled no matter what||

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its a bit messier than their given solution (||turn it into 27 2x2x2 chess colored blocks, each piece has to use up 2 black and 2 white boxes, after you fill 26 mini cubes, there is one 2x2x2 left over||)

livid wedge
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lmao its definitely not 85k

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thats like twice the summer internship pay lmao

obtuse flame
livid wedge
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JS swe isnt really like leetcode

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its more like implementation w some algorithmic thinking

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my friend last year had to build a game

obtuse flame
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phone is more lc like and honestly can't really clear it by prepping, if you're good you're good

proper compass
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anyone knows which firm is it?

obtuse flame
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not really esp for final, you have to code fast and clean and correct

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can't grind in a short time

midnight glacier
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Have my first round phone screen for HRT Algo Eng NG, was wondering if anyone has done it/has any tips?

winged aurora
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cubist pay way higher than that for fulltime dev positions

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i interviewed for a data dev position w them

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last year

winged aurora
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their algo dev is like QR and i had prev projects coding signal and strats and AI stuff so they asked a lot about it in detail

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and linux stuff

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also some sql and data analytics using pandas

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and some leetcode style question but more mathy

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i wont say its hard but more of if you know you know

midnight glacier
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I think mine would be more CS based since it’s algo eng. But not too sure

winged aurora
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Oh right oops mine was algo dev NG

livid wedge
livid wedge
white haven
livid wedge
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algo eng, not really but there is a risk if you listed it on your resume

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for core eng i didnt get any questions on C++ but for the final round i think he expected me to do it in C++

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the only firms that i got c++ trivia questions from were citadel and cubist

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hrt was more about OS and some interesting algorithm design questions

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oh also core eng vs algo eng only matters after the first interview for the internship

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no clue about ng

white haven
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makes sense. matches my hrt interview experience for algo eng last year

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yea i was wondering if the expectations change much for ng

livid wedge
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my friend who did ng said it was a bit different

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like he had to ssh into a remote machine and got a lot of python trivia

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like how python works under the hood

white haven
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was that for core or algo eng

livid wedge
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algo

thorny gate
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just any codeforces problems or are there ones more like the JS interview, cuz codeforces is usually heavy on algorithms right

lost current
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feel like u dont really need to prep for js phone

thorny gate
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if a company sends you an interview request and you ignore it even after they follow up do they ban you

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wondering if I can email then now with some bullshit like oops the email went in my spam

lost stratus
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there isnt anything they can do

broken thorn
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what do they look for then? is the best way to prep to write large programs with super neat and readable code?

short patio
thorny gate
short patio
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simply be good at coding

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who you think js takes

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mediocre leetcode monkeys?

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no

broken thorn
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i want to minmax 😡

shadow estuary
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in my exp js had pretty algo heavy q's so

broken thorn
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i want to be an exceptional lc monkey

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might start codeforces after i finish the green book

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i know im spreading myself too thin and will likely fail at all my ventures because of it

lost current
shadow estuary
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yeah i meant the final

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doesnt make sense to just prepare for like one part of the interview tho

lost current
shadow estuary
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yeah true

broken thorn
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are the algos exceptionally hard beyond stuff like snowflake oa

opaque sable
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5d dp

sullen falcon
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where on the clever-pragmatic scale should I be is my biggest question

rugged rampart
magic swan
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you

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absolute monkey

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👻 hrt

fast gazelle
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@lyric loom

winged aurora
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they don't standardise their pay internationally

tough sand
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If i'm graduating december 2023, what would u say is best time to start applying for quant new grad? I see that some firms already have open roles lmao and my summer internship haven't even started

rugged rampart
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I forgot to reply to interview

tulip sapphire
tulip sapphire
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Though if you have prior QR experience which matches up closely they’ll maybe disregard it

opaque sable
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Silly stuff

tulip sapphire
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I’ve heard PMs at p72 still do a lot of coding which is nice

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And they don’t have major worries about insider trading anymore (though tbh like Jump and JS still insider trade, it’s just that they are sexy and good at it)

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Anyone know this meme image that shows google as a pretty girl and people wants to give their data to her for better advertising recommendations whereas people call tiktok or Microsoft (who is modeled as an ugly girl) Chinese spyware or stealing their data
edit: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/hello-human-resources

Know Your Meme

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neat junco
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depends on team pnl

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in general similar to 2s

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but with a great team the upside could be huge

livid wedge
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what do you mean by a great team? Is it like a pod shop where ur under a PM?

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thanks for the help

neat junco
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some examples of pod team: cubist, schonfeld, millennium

lost current
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millenium omegalul

broken thorn
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are there any other companies that even come close to jane streets logo's coolness

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idec about money or prestige or anything but im depressed that i will probably never work for a company that has a logo as good as js

broken thorn
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ur trolling me with this one

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fucking last panel ass line at the bottom of the logo

sullen falcon
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rentech

broken thorn
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omfg im dyign

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]thats the funniest thing ive ever seen

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its so dogshit it loops back to being great

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"OOPS the magnet turned off, all the particles ran away"

lost stratus
broken thorn
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three almost circles

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mathy but not at the expense of neatness

lost stratus
broken thorn
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basically patrick bateman describing paul allens card

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is what i have to say about it

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the tasteful offsets, the subtle positioning. oh my god, it even has the golden ratio

winged aurora
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Cppcon

broken thorn
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the article writer was a gigantic nerd holy shit

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who does narrow transcription and includes the glottal stop at the beginning

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look at that garbage logo tho

broken thorn
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that looks cool

sullen falcon
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No way you gave aquatic higher than Optiver

broken thorn
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you rate this much higher than me

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the scribble is so ugly

long raft
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the logo is a citadel so imho this is the perfect logo 😂

fast gazelle
broken thorn
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think of this every time i see the logo

broken thorn
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obviously the citadel logo

steel wedge
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citadel everything in terms of aesthetics is amazing

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honestly js is pretty mid compared to citadel imo for that

cyan sparrow
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LEGOAT

ocean gazelle
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Shaw aesthetic is peak

long raft
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Enlighten me! I don’t know the meaning 😂

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To me it looks like a maze

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This is actually really cool

Hahaha now I have to freshen up my illustrator skills to verify this 😂😂

broken thorn
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holy shit

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3 9 18

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thats also very patterny

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@lost stratus its even better than i thought

sullen falcon
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wtff

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that's so clever

broken thorn
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bro how the FUCK does your brain work

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this is the way they expect us to solve the monthly puzzles

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this one still blows my mind

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how many leaps of logic it takes

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crazy

long raft
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Nyc position but base salary is missing 😦 would be really interesting to know how much such a position pays

broken thorn
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btw do you know how to solve this one? i feel like dp (mostly brute force though) has N as barely small enough to be solvable if u run the computer for like a day '

sullen falcon
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||Many of the clues admitted answers that sounded like groups of letters of the alphabet, and in fact observant solvers could notice that these letters helpfully came in alphabetic order! This extra constraint resolved any remaining ambiguities to find the following list of answers:||

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what

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and

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||Here several solvers stopped, deciding the 11 letter long answer “THE ALPHABET” was correct. Sadly there was another layer to this onion! Armed with a list of answers that sound a lot like the alphabet, solvers could focus on the extra sounds that only occurred in our answer list. These were||

||BABY SEED EERIE EFFIGY EIGHT CHAI JAKE AGE ELEMENT OPIE CUE ARRESTEE YOUVE REDOUBLE EWE EXO WISELY||

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this bit doesnt make sense either

opaque sable
# sullen falcon not this tho

if you ignore the letters they put in bold and read it out it sounds like the alphabet, and if you sound out the bold letters it says bridge troll

broken thorn
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if you speak the alphabet theres no B at the start

sullen falcon
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oh I get it

hexed rock
broken thorn
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in aybeeseedee

sullen falcon
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thats so clever

broken thorn
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its insanity

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i refuse to read phonetic spellings that dont use the IPA

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is "oo" the OO in book? spook?

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just use the ipa angrykirby

hexed rock
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ok wikipedia whatever you say

winged aurora
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Know a fella who got offered business development at Jane street (non tech role)

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The pay not much lower than dev 💀

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But the interviews are mostly game theory and puzzles as well

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BD and earning more than FANNG NG for reals

short patio
solar axle
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It’s a quantitative trading firm 🙏

short patio
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The answer is money

shadow estuary
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yeah that doesnt seem like a great option if ur goal is swe

lusty wraith
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i know a couple that went into BD JS

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they both did cs/related degrees but didnt enjoy coding much

shadow estuary
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the issue is just roles it would pivot into

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is it like a PM equivalent?

lusty wraith
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no its not like PM from what i know

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its a rotational program i think, so they do a lot of things

shadow estuary
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interesting

fast gazelle
median kettle
crystal apex
broken thorn
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too funny

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maybe he knows thr answer

halcyon mauve
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any tips for de shaw prop trading intern interview? would really appreciate it <3. Thanks!!

nocturne estuary
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BizDev is a cool role, I got an offer for it but didn’t take it, it’s still technical but you get to interface with the finance a little more. From what I understand JS SWE is very head in the sand coding heavy, BizDev gives you a more Birds Eye view of the firm.

feral topaz
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Hi ppl

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Anyone have experience with 2Sigma SWE interviews

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New-Grad specifically but any at all helps if I can dm ❤️

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❤️ ❤️ ❤️

neat junco
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Straight lc

feral topaz
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Awesome

neat junco
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You got new grad interviews for this year?

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@feral topaz Like they started hiring for 2024?

feral topaz
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Waiting on it

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Prepping

odd spear
short patio
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they def do

feral topaz
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Nah I don’t have one yet

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But I have intern at sig this summer and have been told that’s enough to basically guarantee ill pass resume screen

pastel geyser
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I know multiple people who have worked at sig QT and failed resume screens for 2S QR

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Whoever told you this is incorrect

feral topaz
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Uh oh

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Well fingers crossed

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I have an email too

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Like a recruiters email

tulip sapphire
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2s qr resume screen is mainly just school from what ive seen

uncut steeple
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I honestly wish I did not royally detour my ug

broken thorn
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i like ur name

uncut steeple
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internal referral?

rose holly
muted pasture
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I got a quantitative investment superday at Goldman Sachs. Are there any tips for this? The initial screening was quite technical so I am not sure if this round will also be very technical/math based

pastel geyser
muted pasture
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Quantitative Investment Summer Analyst start date summer 2024

lost current
ocean gazelle
ocean gazelle
lost current
ocean gazelle
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No in between

lost current
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Yeah

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I do think going to like mit or Stanford might help a lot, but at the same time the ppl there are way more smarter than ppl at most schools so it’s self selecting

ocean gazelle
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Yup exactly

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T10 is all same unless u go to a ivy, cal, mit, cmu, or Stanford

clever bridge
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yo
@lyric loom

lyric loom
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el racoon

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yo

lost current
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I think it’s mostly talent diff for top schools I go to relatively strong cs school and the talent diff between average student at my school vs some place like mit or Stanford is p big imo

obtuse flame
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How’s brown not good?

robust totem
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recruiting is extremely random tho lol

lost current
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brown is def good their math is on stronger side, and even if it’s less traders it’s prob from other factors such as maybe lack of interest and also maybe much smaller cs and math dept compared to other schools

obtuse flame
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I feel like it’s just because their department is smaller

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So you see less alumni

tulip sapphire
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Yeah that’s not so good, cuz then u don’t have connections or people in the industry to reach out to

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Less alumni is generally a bad thing

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UIUC or Cal or CMU >> Brown for quant in my mind

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At those top schools there’s like a pipeline to quant: lots of people have got it so you can follow what they did or go to their recruiting events

pastel geyser
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the usefulness of knowing other people in quant is not insignificant

tulip sapphire
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Not as strong lol

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It’s funny to suggest it is

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Also most people here are interns or LARPers

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Yeah like if you’re a top performer fulltime grinding ur not gonna spend ur free time when u cool off talking to 18yr olds

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I only know one dude like that

short patio
tulip sapphire
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We’re too good for Adchari

obtuse flame
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My opinion tho

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And I feel like brown quality of life makes it a better choice overall

tulip sapphire
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It is rng and that’s why alumni who know your curriculum is legit is helpful

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QoL for quant intended thinkinglol

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I think Brown is a great school for pre-med and like if ur goal is swe

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True

rugged rampart
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😭

smoky gulch
robust totem
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Am I a larp rift

proven steeple
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Hey guys, it's the busy time of the year. I know most of you have internships and will be busy over the summer but if you are graduating December 2023 or May 2024 now is the time to explore your options. Firms are interviewing incoming seniors for the next cycle. Most people that do well will receive a return offer and most firms will give you an expiration date to accept the offer. Don't put yourself in a situation that you don't explore your options because of that, they put the an expiration so you don't have time to explore the market. This is your first career opportunity, you have to do your due diligence and make sure you are going into the best possible situations. If you do receive a return offer it's a good thing, leverage that to find the best possible opportunity.

Happy to help make proper introductions. Feel free to reach out.

rugged rampart
rugged rampart
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idk if it's true

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that's just the legend

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@rose holly why did you unfriend me 😢

opaque sable
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can i be incompetent with verification?

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☺️

hallow shoal
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what does larper mean outof the loop lol

opaque sable
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bro got the chess emojis 💀

rugged rampart
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bro i don't understand why people care so much

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idk why people care about this so much. i really just wanted to share my opinions

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no shot bro

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im just trolling

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i would never

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hrt + chae collab

lost current
keen sonnet
shadow estuary
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i think easiest way to solve this is for both of u to go outside rn

scenic bison
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fdoes anyone have an invite to the furry quant discord server

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💀

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🙁

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real

rose holly
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When do you start HRT?

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You got Jane Street, citadel, and HRT offer tho

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Wait ur not even chaewon

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Ur minju

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🤨

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Minju better than Chaewon anyways

tulip sapphire
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they own you nothing lol

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no one has any reason to dox themselve

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in their case, i actually highly rec not doxing themselves as they'd get hella simp DMs

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"how do i get into XYZ"

tulip sapphire
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yo dawg chill it's not that deep

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just dont engage

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i didnt mean much by my comment, just that chae has had multiple previous quant roles, and will also be at a firm this summer which is more quant experience than either @primal shell or myself

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and ive met chae irl lol

lyric loom
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el frog

scenic bison
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el frog

tulip sapphire
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or mainly troll data since too early?

rugged rampart
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lmfao 4 rentech intern offers

scenic bison
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but probs fake if it doesnt make you verify

rugged rampart
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100% real

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for 2024?

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lmfao why is c1 on there

runic grotto
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Wait until you hear about BP trading

tulip sapphire
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who tf keeps on pinging me then deleting

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the ping was probs saying i verified chae and that's enough, no idea why they deleted ?

lyric loom
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yo

scenic bison
lyric loom
rose holly
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how do you do fellow smart beings

uncut steeple
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bro can anyone understand this paper

rugged rampart
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I have not

uncut steeple
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does this have any applications in manifold learning/signal processing

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what are layman's terms on what he is proving in the paper 😭

opal bough
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Anyone applying for jane street SWE internship fall?

primal flower
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Is it true that quant firms generally prefer to give return offers to interns rather than recruit for new grad roles, or is it something that really depends on the company?

final garden
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Isnt every company like that lol

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If your a good intern you have a much higher shot getting a return offer / job at the company

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Thats just how it works everywhere

lost current
uncut steeple
tulip sapphire
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you should take algebraic geometry first

last herald
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so if you've already had 3 months of school as an intern, that's nice

solar axle
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so its easier to go from trading intern -> new qt than go straight to new grad as a trader?

tawny talon
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Has anyone gone through the process for swe at ctc?

feral topaz
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It’s the whole point of an internship

robust totem
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even in a good economy solo targeting quant is also literally worst idea

feral topaz
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Solo target

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Be brave

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Don’t listen to Krishna you don’t need that negativity

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(Jk)

robust totem
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i think it's important to set your sights low and u r guaranteed to get something

long raft
fast gazelle
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id say it's safe to solo target quant if you're already a quant

neat junco
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for targeting quant do you mean qt/qr or including tech positions in quant

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qt/qr totally rng

neat junco
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yeah i'm not that good lol

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i did for quant academy

rugged rampart
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PhD > hft

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Bro I love him

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Sorry you had to find out like this

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Its cool

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No

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I'm acc gonna do ml theory

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That's cool

livid wedge
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i have, feel free to pm

solar axle
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hai

lost current
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it might been cuz of exp, idk how ur resume looks like

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but at least for me the no of responses my soph yr vs junior yr was a lot lower than junior yr since i didnt really have any good internships

fast gazelle
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@lyric loom

junior dew
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@edgy phoenix

edgy phoenix
ocean gazelle
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2023?

tulip sapphire
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Ik a putnam top 200 who has prior quant experience that didn’t get past a bunch of quant resume screens this year 💀

long raft
lyric loom
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😌

broken thorn
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-2024 grad at X uni
-putnam 2021 top 200
-interned at Y

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size 12 font, leave the rest of the page blank

sudden delta
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I’m not a Westbrook fan I swear

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No worries

rose holly
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Who ping

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Stop

tulip sapphire
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wtf for 2024 summer? or fall/spring or ng?

oblique orbit
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Any body know if Jane street is looking for a risk-taking or conservative mindset in the final round interview

lost stratus
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I did for swe ft but i didn't have an oa

short patio
ocean gazelle
winged aurora
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Given a choice between FANNG level tech companies and hedge funds (with similar TC between the two), what would you guys choose for the long run

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I feel like tho hedge funds can defo pay higher but after a certain point TC won't matter as much (whether you are earning 500k a year or 700k a year etc) unless you are chasing the material lifestyle

obtuse flame
winged aurora
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Tech companies always say that oh you can choose between independent contributor or go the management route and I feel like in hedge funds it's harder for you to pivot in a similar manner because of how flat they tend to be so most ppl end up doing the QR/QT/QD for their entire time there

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And the long tenure

obtuse flame
cerulean elm
neat junco
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anyone interviewed with a mid frequency team called kepl at cubist

haughty hinge
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Anyone interviewed with HAP Capital?

neat junco
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yes seems so

broken thorn
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very cool problem, if you dont have the method to solve in your tool box then its impossible though

fast mountain
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Just inclusion exclusion?

obtuse flame
broken thorn
lost current
broken thorn
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never seen it in action before tho so i liked it

broken thorn
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what's pie

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besides the food and the extinct language that is the precursor to almost all european, middle eastern, and indian languagrs

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ah ok

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that is my second favorite pie now

lost current
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it is, it comes up in combinatorics a lot

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combinatorics concepts r kinda weird in the sense that stuff like double counting and pie r relatively intuitive but actually applying them for proof can be p aids sometimes

rose holly
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none of u will make it

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gib up

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and even if u have already made it

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…..

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no you haven’t

glossy terrace
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I've always been an admirer of your inspirational words @rose holly

rose holly
lyric loom
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@rose holly

rose holly
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stfu yahkuna

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SHUT

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THE

lyric loom
rose holly
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FUCK

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UP

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like

lyric loom
rose holly
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when was the last time u said something

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hi

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no

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i’m too rich for that

quasi orbit
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I will be there

cyan sparrow
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I will be there

scenic bison
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I will be there

quasi orbit
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r u guys impostors or did u acc get invites

lyric loom
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i have invite

fast gazelle
scenic bison
median kettle
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lol whats the logo on the right

ancient aspen
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anyone know anything about G-Research?

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hiring manager from there reached out but they seem super new

lost current
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i've heard about it but not too sure what they do

ancient aspen
#

their only US office is in dallas which kinda sucks

ocean gazelle
#

it’s a London based firm I think

opaque sable
#

G research are funny, they’re known for cutting interviews short if you’re not doing well enough

lost current
lost current
long raft
opaque sable
#

Lmfao

lost current
broken thorn
#

gaytech isnt a state school

#

id like to see him interview a umass amherst lol

#

(also a good school, but gatech is like a target school )

ancient aspen
#

lol is valk even good enough to be trashing a school like gtech

neat junco
#

Maybe the interviewer did not get into gtech

ocean gazelle
#

all-time level hating :(

uncut steeple
#

did you guys mean this

#

is this harvard elite event

tulip sapphire
#

Their OA was easy imo unless you’re not talking about QR?

#

It was like “have you taken an ML class”

tulip sapphire
#

Ahh

uncut steeple
#

didn't this dude flee to china, then **voluntarily went back to the UK

uncut steeple
#

When British police requested his extradition to the U.K. to face criminal charges, he agreed to go willingly.

#

not a smart move

lost stratus
runic grotto
livid wedge
#

anyone going to the icpc NAC?

winged aurora
#

But GR has a more laid back culture

#

But the mix of people there are.......more questionable

winged aurora
#

Most of the ppl I know who interviewed with them complaint about the interviewers being v rude or disrespectful

#

Tho it's a small sample but still they are not thatttt big so it still says something

opaque sable
#

dunno

fast gazelle
#

I think a decent amount of places do that

weary path
#

pretty sure that GR is the highest paying london firm for researchers

#

so there is that

arctic musk
#

has anyone done deshaw swe new grad pipeline?

neat junco
#

you got the interviews?

arctic musk
#

yeah

#

can i dm?

neat junco
#

wait this early?

ocean gazelle
#

no

#

they started 2024

#

i think their 2023 interns already started

white haven
solar axle
#

all i wanna do is making money

#

🙏

#

respond to my dm @ember lava

runic grotto
#

For swe?

solar axle
#

that is true

runic grotto
#

Or for trader

solar axle
#

trader

#

not really

#

i got real ambition for this cash

runic grotto
#

Ik someone who was a winter 5R trading intern

#

Didn’t go to hypsm

lost current
#

whose ready for the celtics funeral tn

cold kiln
#

Playoff dropper

ocean gazelle
tulip sapphire
#

like i doubt they have more Yale than Cal

quasi orbit
#

5 rings does. its all about knowing the right people

#

u just gotta know someone who can put u in the pipeline

quasi orbit
#

i know ppl at 5r who dont have those

#

but 5r does seem to be more inclined to take women tho

#

naw fr

#

just get a referral from someone who worked there

tulip sapphire
#

you lohst

quasi orbit
#

slide into william lin's dm

lost current
lyric loom
#

yo

fast gazelle
uncut steeple
#

I just noticed this on my LI

solar axle
glass wave
#

Bro sees red 💀

final garden
#

Anyone wanna start a quant firm for Sports Betting

rose holly
#

u wanna start a quant firm for DN

#

real talk, sport betting aint profitable

#

ur almost always bound to get banned after a couple of months

#

its dogwater

final garden
#

Im eating cosmic brownies rn

rose holly
#

how about u eat some dn

haughty hinge
#

It’s top 3 for sure

#

for summer 2024 or winter?

#

ah ok, yeah I can agree on that too

storm ember
#

what's 5r, fiverr?

rose holly
#

it’s super secret stuff

slim mantle
#

anyone recently in SIG quant interviews? no idea what they gonna ask

#

thx for info
any idea will there be game theory problems? never learned this beforePepeLaugh

#

that make sense
gonna try to learn this within 24hrs PepeLaugh

lost current
#

i went thru entire process up to final my soph yr and its mostly game theory and expected values

#

i think having some knowledge of bayesian prob also helps a lot

#

bane

slim mantle
#

forgot most of my knowledge from math courses so pretty nervous now lol

slim mantle
#

short for behavior questions

lost current
#

oh

broken thorn
#

its may

lost current
#

ok ya, i forget what exact since it was 2 yrs ago but it was mostly ev and game theory
if u do well in this one u should move on to the final

#

the questions are bit easier than green book so if u can do that u should be fine

lost current
slim mantle
lost current
#

gl

broken thorn
slim mantle
#

lol idk
they mentioned linear algebra and calculus which is like pre-history stuff for me

broken thorn
#

calc is in green book

slim mantle
broken thorn
#

zamn

#

i was terrified that ppl are already mid rounds for 2024

#

godspeed

#

may you get an offer at 1 sigma

lost current
slim mantle
#

not quite sure
i thought they asked my preference but idk the exact position

slim mantle
lost current
#

ur gonna get that 400k new grad

broken thorn
broken thorn
magic swan
#

its pretty ad hoc

#

you don’t need like actual theory

#

but should know what a nash equilibrium is

lost current
#

yeah

#

he's discovery

broken thorn
#

LMAOO

tulip sapphire
#

August is when most open

slim mantle
#

tyty cheers

broken thorn
#

bruh i just had the worst dream

#

30 green book questions for an hour long exam. they were all like half a page of words

#

and the guy next to me kept trying to give me the answers

desert bolt
#

Is it possible to get into quant firms like jane street and hrt if I go to Oregon state? For reference, I'm currently interning at nvidia and have google summer of code and a major league hacking fellowship on my resume, I also have a 4.0

#

Worried bc I don't go to a target

ocean gazelle
lost current
short patio
#

Get referral

scenic bison
#

Another big n would prob be enough or yeah referral

potent dome
#

Does emailing recruiters and reaching out and all actually help?

jolly cedar
#

How do I make a website

#

@everyone

jolly cedar
#

But

#

I want to make

quasi orbit
#

r u allowed to visit other firms

jolly cedar
#

What’s

#

White shared

uncut steeple
#

family connection

#

probably not

#

only way it makes sense

#

how would a university of nevada las vegas student be at goldman sachs

#

same thing

#

yeah the connection there not citadel

#

anyways

uncut steeple
#

I mean how else

#

why denial

#

I think most oregon state people don't even know what the market is

#

nothing wrong with being "nepo'd" in, I'd love to be "nepo'd" in

scenic bison
#

Is this guy a troll

sick bolt
uncut steeple
#

While many factors went into this determination, in this instance the results of your Hackerrank test were the main determinant.

#

wtf

#

I got perfect on the test cases

runic grotto
#

What company

uncut steeple
#

tibra

#

I don't think so

#

or maybe some TLE on server hidden cases? at least hackerrank said they were perfect

uncut steeple
#

so why

#

should have done the ib route man this blows

#

I'm scoring perfect hackerranks and not even getting back first screen

runic grotto
#

And it was something else

uncut steeple
#

Based on a comprehensive review of your test results, we ultimately decided not to proceed with your application. While many factors went into this determination, in this instance the results of your Hackerrank test were the main determinant.

#

the rest is corporate jumbo

runic grotto
#

Breh

lost leaf
#

Dear Minjutally Ill,

I hope this letter finds you well. I've always admired your unique qualities and genuinely appreciate your individuality. I've noticed that you possess many admirable traits, but I've often wondered why you don't embrace the concept of "swag." Please understand that I ask this question with respect and curiosity, as I believe everyone's perspective on style is valid. I would be grateful if you could share your thoughts on the matter, as I'm eager to understand your personal viewpoint. Your insights would help me broaden my understanding and foster a greater appreciation for diverse expressions of self. Thank you for considering my inquiry.

Regards,
Normal Person

uncut steeple
final garden
#

I am happy your didnt get the thing you wanted

#

Makes me happy

uncut steeple
sour python
#

so

#

where should i start

#

as someone who just finished g12

final garden
sour python
#

amazing

lost leaf
solar axle
# uncut steeple family connection

You still have to be cracked enough to pass the interview and get it. They don’t give offers to randoms, and you don’t have anything to backup your claim as well

scenic bison
#

nc 150 aint gonna finish itself

#

and green book 💯

uncut steeple
grizzled osprey
broken thorn
#

i dont understand the bottom system of equations

#

why do we only multiply out one of the Ps, but the other one gets to be "n-2/365" or "n-1/365"?

magic swan
#

what do you mean 'multiply one of the Ps' they simplify the expressions P(n) > P(n-1) and P(n) > P(n+1) after they plug in what they got above

broken thorn
#

they have an equation with many multiplications ending in n-1/365 > JUST n-2/365

#

why is it not another large equation on the right?

#

365 multiplied down to n-2/365

magic swan
#

they cancel out terms on both sides

#

from P(n) you only get n-1/365 and (365-n+2)/365

broken thorn
#

oh its like telescoping and they simplified down to just 1 or 2 terms on each side?

#

thanks

#

im having trouble decreasing i using the original formula

#

since any time i plug in the value of P_i i will get P_(i+1)

#

i cant get a recurrence relation that is solely in terms of smaller values of i

storm ember
#

cant you just write P(i) as some multiple of P(i-1)

broken thorn
#

not sure how because there is the pesky P(i+1) term

storm ember
#

where though. at what point do you need to know the guy behind you

broken thorn
#

the rest is supposed to follow from this formula

magic swan
#

don't you have it here already

#

which part do you not get

broken thorn
#

how does this follow from the previous message

magic swan
#

P_i+1 - P_i = 1/p(P_i - qP_i-1) - P_i = ((1-p)P_i - qP_i-1)/p = (qP_i - qP_i-1)/p

broken thorn
#

ah, i didnt see the skipped step here
P_i+1 = (1/p)(P_i - qP_i-1)

#

now i do though

#

thanks

#

jeez they skipped like 10 steps

magic swan
#

the actual algebra/computation isn't that important mainly that you're reducing the recursion to a geometric one

broken thorn
#

its important for me to follow it though

storm ember
#

a lot of this computation is unnecessary

#

compare the last terms of P(n+1) to P(n)

#

really to determine whether something is bigger than the other is how does (n-1)/365 compare to (365-(n-1))/365 * n/365

#

you can infer from here that you're probably looking for the square root of 365, which lies between 19 and 20

#

then you just check which one matches the criteria

lyric loom
scenic bison
#

fire

wintry tendon
#

ok but if u just change the decision to include a few parameters isnt that the nuts

#

like if ur on wall street arent you shaking

tulip sapphire
#

missing nvidia

rose holly
#

yo im not that great at cpp, but do you have any milestone in mind when u would consider some1 to be 'good' at cpp?

wintry tendon
broken thorn
uncut steeple
#

got the email

final garden
#

Honestly ChatGPT does a decent job creating PineScripts for TradingView

#

How to get rich? Use ChatGPT to create a bunch of bogus PineScripts that look cool and sell it on TikTok

final garden
uncut steeple
final garden
#

😭

uncut steeple
#

ok now when I get real bx offer I am obligated to post full text

#

that was p funny tho when I first saw it

#

had to post - sorry

winged aurora
lost current
#

I interviewed for qr

livid wedge
#

is the dress code for qd j business casual

broken thorn
#

i am not sure where the formula to calculate 23/144 or the method to draw/shade the square comes from

sour python
#

y=mx+b

broken thorn
#

wait actually i get it

#

got confused by the formulas and diagrams

sour python
#

it’s just y=x but +- 5 mins

broken thorn
#

oh lmao this is 7th grade math

#

solve the abs value by setting x-y<=5 and x-y>= -5

#

and shade LOL

#

i swear quant stuff gets harder the farther its been since high school

rose holly
broken thorn
rose holly
#

etf

#

this shit is high school math

lost current
last herald
broken thorn
#

ye, for a lot of these my goto is getting hard carried by subconscious "this idea should work"

#

not very good plan for trying to appear hireable

broken thorn
#

those ppl built different

rose holly
magic swan
#

i mean the point isn’t really to test for specific knowledge and just general thinking ability

last herald
storm ember
#

there arent super good shortcuts for getting that kind of insight though, just need to do a lot of problems

#

if you do a couple hundred problems from putnam in beyond you'd be in pretty good shape for that

#

would take a few months

storm ember
broken thorn
#

since atm if i just try to solve on my own i wont have a clue why the answer is riggt or wrong

storm ember
#

whats the difference

#

also how long do you spend on problems before you look at the solution

storm ember
broken thorn
# storm ember whats the difference

"i have no clue how to explain it but if i add these values together i think i get the right answer" vs " this seems like the time to use induction, so i will try it"

#

latter is very neat thought process, former is complete chaos

storm ember
#

rarely do i encounter the former

broken thorn
#

im trying to never have the former happen

storm ember
#

often i see sorts of "grokking" in the sense of learning the finite number of tactics in a vacuum or by watching it demonstrated, as a viable technique for learning cs problem solving

magic swan
#

intuition is more important

storm ember
#

i dont think it works well for math problems

magic swan
#

i am person who only does math

storm ember
#

why not? because instead of having a finite set of 20 techniques, in math you still have a finite set but theres 2000 of them

#

and it isnt really practical to memorize them

#

it also doesnt make as much sense to make clear distinctions between them a lot of the time

magic swan
#

yeah i mean just memorizing techniques is not that useful

#

at the level of quant interviews anyway if you have the correct fundamental you can invent said technique on the spot

storm ember
#

doing rough work, trying small cases, is a pretty universally good strat for starting any problem

#

maybe after trying 3 or 4 cases, you can be in the position to conjecture an induction hypothesis

broken thorn
#

yeye tinker to n=3-5ish is super good strat

#

but blind Intuition is all or nothing so its rly scary for me to use

storm ember
#

what does that mean

broken thorn
#

my insane ramblings on the page dont work? im boned

magic swan
#

ok when i say intuition i don't really mean guessing

storm ember
#

what does blind intuition mean. what does it mean to be all or nothing

broken thorn
#

like

#

just trying without any strategies ive formally learned

#

is blind intuition for me

storm ember
#

u never answered the question btw on "how much time do you spend on a problem before looking at the solution"

magic swan
#

this kinda varies

#

like if you are still coming up with real thoughts

#

then you can spend hours and its fine

#

but if you can't think of anything

storm ember
#

pick a different problem

magic swan
#

the problem is either too hard for you, or you miss some prerequisite knowledge that you aren't expected to come up with on the spot

lost current
#

And maybe look at question that’s bit easier and uses similar approach

magic swan
#

if it's specifically for like quant interview problems i feel like it's fine to look after 30 minutes

#

idrk where people would get more of those type of practice problems though

lost current
storm ember
#

i wasnt positing any stance on whether looking at solutions at all is ok

lost current
magic swan
#

yeah

storm ember
#

i still dont understand why people are answering for him though

broken thorn
#

are u asking me?

#

usually vetween 5 mins and an hour depending on if im certain I am lacking a technique to solve it or if i think i have a few ideas that might take a while

#

when i look at soln ill try to solve on my own after reading a few lines

storm ember
#

5 mins as a lower end is quite small. 30 mins is a good amount.

#

if you feel bottlenecked by this approach by virtue of not being able to see enough problems, you can try looking at 10 problems at once and see if you can make any progress on any of them

#

thats what i do

#

i dont look at the answers at all doing this though, i suppose for better or for worse. i think if i did look at the answers i would run out of questions a lot quicker

broken thorn
#

its more of "id rather use this problem as an example and learn from it"

#

like how textbooks have solved solns mid chapter and then actual hw probs at the end of chapter

broken thorn
storm ember
#

i guess i have personal disagreements with that approach. it is often the case that some problems are more demonstrative of a unique insight than others

#

and i dont want to shoot myself in the foot by revealing the answer prematurely

robust totem
#

random question but

storm ember
#

i can post some later

robust totem
#

what are good ways to add more experience to resume other than internships/tutoring/taships/clubs

#

actually

#

also research

storm ember
#

projects that you have an emotional stake in

robust totem
storm ember
#

do u care about any of them

robust totem
#

that do have an emotional stake

storm ember
#

ok nice

robust totem
#

however i had an emotional stake in the rest of them

storm ember
#

you can do open source stuff

robust totem
#

nah i don't want more projects lol

storm ember
#

or solve some open problems. depending on what kinda stuff you're looking for

robust totem
#

(i am planning on doing open source anyways)

storm ember
#

theres a lot of open problems that are pretty easy to solve

#

just need to find the low hanging fruit

#

if you already have all the other stuff you listed, i dont really see the need for more

#

would just be cluttered

#

but yea just depends on what you want to do and what you want to emphasize

#

ideally just continue whatever you like doin

magic swan
#

hmmt is like

#

significantly overkill

#

schoolbook probability textbooks is probably fine

broken thorn
#

good idea

#

but also want to hear where woog is getting so many problems

magic swan
#

i think OMO is shut down

#

but still overkill

#

but yeah its more interesting

broken thorn
#

omo sounds made up

#

onternational mathematics olympiad

#

they sound more like 0% interest rate startup names LMFAO

magic swan
#

farml is new to me

#

i guess it's recently made / small

#

it sounds like budget arml

#

the rest are of these are small

#

math prize?

#

yeah their contests are available

#

i thought they did more kermit_think

uncut steeple
#

has anybody here taken and understand k-theory

lime hedge
#

has anyone here taken and understand etale cohomology?

storm ember
storm ember
#

so far its unclear whether these problems are hard, from brief literature reviews it seems it simply hasnt been worked on much

#

so they might be easy / open by virtue of no one having tried for long enough

#

@rose holly easy way into openai if ur interested

long raft
storm ember
#

more like a month. idk i dont have much intuition on algorithmic techniques, its hard for me to gauge difficulty here. i guess i would lean towards proving hardness being on the easier end (if that is the resolution)

#

im goin to a math conference tomorrow, ill see what people over there think about it

#

idk i would not overestimate the difficulty of "unsolved problems" in general, just cuz no ones done it before doesnt mean its hard to do

#

whats up

tulip sapphire
#

And u call me a nerd

errant trellis
#

Is the blackrock OA automated for swe intern? I just got it after a week

acoustic sandal
sour python
#

is this a good enough project for a quant internship

broken thorn
#

PREPROCESS ALL POSSIBLE LINE SEGMENTS IN N^2 TIME

#

actually this does not look like you used thast

#

u should solve with dp

#

there is a set cost for adding a new line segment to avoid overfitting

#

and a value applied to how accurate the total r^2 is

unborn walrus
#

thinking of making a project to get a quant internship. Any ideas/suggestions?

#

I was thinking of putting a bunch of stock data into a dataframe, calculating the greeks, Testing a couple of ML models, and then showing the results with a custom backtest algorithm

#

Does that sound unrealistc/unhelpful? Any tips?

#

heh kinda new to qaunt.....whats a QR?

unborn walrus
#

the ML models I would b able to explain cuz I just finished my ML class but the finance part I def would b confused. Wld it still b too ambitous?

#

rip

#

do u have any other suggestions?

#

my resume's kinda dry so I was hoping to put a finance related project on there

scenic bison
#

W chae giving advice

unborn walrus
#

ohhh ok so just do an old competition to showcase some ML? I wouldn't need to make it Finance related?

#

ok, i'll try that out.

#

thnx

sour python
#

any tips on courses to get better at quant?

lost current
sour python
#

afaik, dev is just swe but extremely low level, which im not intersted in

lost current
last herald
#

cit people say to take lin alg, real anal, and prob theory for trading interviews

weary path
#

in work or in interviews?

fast gazelle
#

1, 1.01, 1.001, 1.0001, ...

weary path
#

hmm no but sequences and convergence can be a real topic

#

but def nothing that requires actual math like constructing the reals

fast gazelle
#

isn't that just calculus

long raft
weary path
weary path
long raft
#

Pride month. So pretty much every company changes their logo to feature the rainbow colors

long raft
#

Can’t remember their last years logo 🥹

#

Why? 😅

tulip sapphire
#

Yet you still asked me for Tower backpacks 🤨

long raft
tulip sapphire
long raft
#

Free stuff is always the best

tulip sapphire
#

if he doesnt then sure

#

but he does

#

well there was an event but it was only for my school

tulip sapphire
#

No

scenic bison
#

Two sigma is top wym

neat junco
#

Two sigma ghosted for three months after final

#

They are pod teams so really depend on teams

lost current
#

uc sb and uc sc too nice w it

rugged rampart
#

H index? 👀

opaque sable
#

Give him a couple years and he’ll start invading this channel

#

How do I get mlai at quant

tulip sapphire
#

🪞

#

no, im unemployed, just like you fr

#

never met him before

#

balla?

uncut steeple
#

BW recruits from linkedin???!?

fast gazelle
#

what's bw tc

tulip sapphire
#

ru 24 or 25

#

gpa doesnt mean much as long as it's not low

#

i dont think anyone actually converts though

#

i think youre fine

#

how would they?

#

like it's impossible to know unless you take the mean of the applicants from each school but even that is just a sample statistic

#

i think he's sating rly cracked people will minmax and go all in on rsh

#

and if ur doing research 24/7

#

then youll neglect school

#

not cuz u cant do it just cuz ur busy

#

A+ in grad class and TAing for large ug classes is how i got my research lol

#

that was oddly specific

#

ive heard of that working

#

but im too lazy to

#

ive only been approached by others

#

based

fast gazelle
#

send your kid to alphastar in elementary school

#

2s isn't 600k

tulip sapphire
#

when do u start

#

wtf so late??

#

😮

fast gazelle
#

trader dashboard team

#

why not both

#

bro thinks he owns the company

#

wdym

#

it vests monthly/quarterly at most places

#

do columbia mscs

#

unironically true

#

alexandr wang

#

how did he sell out

#

yea idt they do much labelling now

#

seems to be more generic ml infra

#

hypsm -> faang is kinda rope tbh

#

yea but imagine grinding for the best opportunities since 6th grade and now you got a job that 500k other people have

#

alexandr wang built a unicorn as a 20 year old

#

that's mad impressive