#quants-n-traders

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broken thorn
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loll

tulip sapphire
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They say this but Ik people who’ve passed the resume screen without it

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There are exceptions if you’re cracked enough

empty meteor
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prolly UMich??

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but Duke is still solid

twin cloud
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kazuha > chaewon > yunjin > others

broken thorn
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whos kazuha

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do they give more accurate advice than chaewon?

pastel geyser
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i've got a good friend who goes there and TAs classes and somehow they're even worse than the students at my school

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i think duke actually has more people going into quant than umich come to think of it

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at least according to the intern rosters i remember seeing

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i will say that most people in quant have a math major too

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like it's CS + X (math, physics, stats)

broken thorn
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math is cool

trim wharf
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Anyone have any insight for recruiting at duke vs northwestern vs brown for quant?

broken thorn
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leaves u open for phys or stats if u want grad school too

short sphinx
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just cuz ivy

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but idk shit

obtuse flame
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Duke no contest

shadow estuary
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optimizing for quant kinda dumb among like t30

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u can get interviews anywhere with decent xp at that point

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just go where you'll like it more/cheaper

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its also just unlikely statistically speaking youll get quant so also optimizing around that is dumb

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absolutely duke at that point lmao

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200k is a ton

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unless u knew since birth u wanted to be in vc circles then prob hypsm

vital grotto
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100,000 percent lol

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even with parents paying

short patio
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Depends on how much money your parents have

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If your daddy is bezos you bet your ass im@going HYP

rose holly
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Depends on your goal, if you’re just going to work at faang u can do it at either college

barren steeple
short patio
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wait this is mr under 5 mil tc is peanuts

barren steeple
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idt hyspm is worth evert pretty muc

short patio
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he is very intelligent

barren steeple
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maybe for some very specific jobs in finance

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but thats it

short patio
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true, how am I supposed to buy my own condo and rent it out for passive income with that peanuts tc

amber veldt
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what's good bro

rose holly
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Cornell not part of hypsm WazowskiStare

rose holly
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Ru at Jane street ?

short patio
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ain't that fyp

ember night
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context?

lost stratus
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What do the vids talk about

raw frigate
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What is the tier list of quant firms?

fast gazelle
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you won't believe how much this 22 year old is making 😱

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follow for part 2

surreal quail
runic grotto
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One of my friends is really good at the putnam, gave him some qt interview questions and he solved them all instantly

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Just correlation tho

runic grotto
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2S?

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Oh lmao

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💀

solar gale
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Is a master's in CS at UIUC enough for getting interview calls for SWE roles at HFTs/Hedge Funds?

ember night
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yes

neat junco
solar gale
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Spicy take, fake or not it's seems to be a feeder school for quant related jobs as per LinkedIn, especially at firms in Chicago like Citadel and Jump. I was wondering if a master's degree would seem less valuable to recruiters than an ug degree

solar gale
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MCS

neat junco
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but if you can do great internship between ug and ms then ms >> ug

solar gale
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I have backend SWE experience in between bs and master's

neat junco
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then it's fine i think

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internship exp always says the most

broken thorn
opaque sable
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🤔

neat junco
opaque sable
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that is true

neat junco
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If you have the bachelors at the same school/some cs top schools then you are fine

broken thorn
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TRAD FI SOROS

broken thorn
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what if its a different major masters

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and or research based masters

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im not saying ur wrong (cuz im not qualified to have an opinion), it just seems crazy that youd be better off saying you took a gap year and lie that you took no masters

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or pretend it was a 5 year bachelors

brisk stream
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but might not significantly improve

long raft
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Idk but in Europe nearly everyone I know does a master. In some countries it’s worth a lot. Hahaha even the Netherlands thinks a master makes you special and gives you lower taxes for few years (aka 30% ruling)

opaque sable
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he's saying that the ms is worth less than the bs, not that it's a negative, think its a weird way to say it tho

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like for example here in the uk a bsc at oxford is way more impressive than an msc at oxford

long raft
opaque sable
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Yeah, getting into a bsc is way harder, for msc you just have to meet the grade requirements and have enough money

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It's not that rare for people to get straight A's at easy unis and then jump to oxbridge, but to get into oxbridge as an undergrad you gotta be super smart and go thru interviews and stuff

long raft
opaque sable
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I dont think I'd last a semester there lol

long raft
opaque sable
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Hard

rose holly
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💀

lost stratus
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Is peloton a good company for swe?

I saw someone on linkedin do

intern at pdt -> peloton ft

shadow estuary
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its a standard big tech company wrt to entry level pay/benefits

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there are lots of reasons someone might do that

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no return offer, doesnt like quant, location/family logistics, loves electric bikes/failing companies, etc

golden cargo
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depends, when did they join

tulip sapphire
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i think being in a special program with more resources >> merit scholarship but what would ik (i only have the latter tream )

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Bro just straight-up plagiarized my joke, i sent the same post + screenshot last week (may have been on csm though)

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tbf to meta swe they have some cracked people like Jens Axboe

main gyro
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Hey everyone!
I'm an incoming undergrad freshman at Georgia Tech (CS or CS+math major) and have wanted to work as a quant trader for quite some time now. However, everyone I know seems to say that only kids at Ivies, MIT, stanford, etc make it to quant trading positions. I just wanted to know if that is true or school name doesn't matter all that much.

Thanks for your help :)

tulip sapphire
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gt is workable

main gyro
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Thanks for your input!

broken thorn
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gay tech is semi target i thonk

short patio
tulip sapphire
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does stanford have good quant trading placements? i always thought they had the worst out of T5 cs schools

short patio
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stanford kids would rather go YC / startup

tulip sapphire
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ycombinator

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startup accelerator company

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it helped launched Airbnb, Coinbase, Cruise, DoorDash, Dropbox, Instacart, Quora, PagerDuty, Reddit, Stripe, Bankjoy, Twitch, etc

chilly echo
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its a well known startup incubator

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they focus on pre-seed and early stage investing

grizzled osprey
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i mean if ur avg then that's true, but ur here so im assuming ur a hard grinder so dw

tulip sapphire
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startups are more high risk high reward than quant imo

tulip sapphire
chilly echo
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I think it's more of a culture thing at stanford

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they have heavy push on buzzwords

tulip sapphire
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oh like quant is looked down upon?

chilly echo
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like AI, starting your own company, etc.

chilly echo
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its more like

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it doesn't fit the agenda

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that is regurgitated there

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most people wanna be in AI there because of Ng and Fei Fei

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and the name brand that SAIL has in the space

tulip sapphire
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how is IB/tradfi placement from stanford

chilly echo
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not sure

short patio
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it's a culture thing

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it's tech bro culture

chilly echo
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im not in the trad-fi space

tulip sapphire
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i see

chilly echo
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so im not really sure about those counts

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or motivations to break into that field

tulip sapphire
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i kinda assumed that you could get into anywhere from stanford but the lack of alumni at firms makes it hard to have internal connections

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if youre skilled im sure anything can happen

chilly echo
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yeah

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for sure

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ig a similar argument can be made for caltech

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the primary focus there is robotics

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and again that jump in AI

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more recently

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but its always kind of been a cultural thing to approach robotics if you went there

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but they are very capable to enter trad-fi if they wished

tulip sapphire
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like if all your friends are doing/aiming for quant then you have more resources to ask about and motivation to do quant, if no one else is rly doing quant then it can be tough to prep alone

chilly echo
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yeah

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but its also a thing to consider, not everyoen wants that goal

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like some people would rather go into another domain

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which ig insights the culture of the university

tulip sapphire
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i feel like a lot of people who are interested in anything CS (that makes >$x TC) just do whatever most of their friends do

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since they know that's what works

chilly echo
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yeah thats a good way to put it

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for the majority

tulip sapphire
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yeh ofc there r always ppl coming in expecting to get a phd

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or sth

main gyro
tulip sapphire
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uiuc?

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ig i meant t4

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4 just is not a round number

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udub or wloo?

main gyro
# tulip sapphire uiuc?

Interesting... general consensus amongst applicants and students is that those 4 are followed by UIUC/GT/UT-Austin/Mich/UDub

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Waterloo for non canadians costs like 400 grand in CAD 💀

tulip sapphire
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i think there are diminishing returns to doing so many internships

short patio
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guys why are we ranking schools like we're on a2c

tulip sapphire
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and 5 years brings extra opp cost

short patio
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one internship

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jane street qt -> JS ft

tulip sapphire
short patio
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praxis is not high schooler lol

tulip sapphire
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no i meant meow

short patio
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LMAO bro high schoolers are fucking mad obsessed with colleges

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I know I was

amber yacht
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😐

main gyro
proven glade
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from my experience the top target schools for quant are harvard, mit, stanford

chilly echo
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ik its pricey

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but like

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8*30k is not 400 😭

chilly echo
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yeah

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but a year means like 2 terms

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so thats just saying 66k*4

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waterloo does 8 terms total

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a per term cost is roughly 30k

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for intls

main gyro
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  • housing
lyric loom
main gyro
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They do trimesters. 9 trimesters of clasees, 6 internships/coop. 38k tuition+6k living costs per trimester.
44*9 = 396k CAD

tulip sapphire
chilly echo
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if you drop coop

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which is not possible for engineering

tulip sapphire
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do you have to pay tuition for the year if youre in coop

chilly echo
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but possible for CS/math

chilly echo
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there are coop fees

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also you don't pay for the year

tulip sapphire
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😢

chilly echo
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you pay on a per term basis

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each term has it's attributed costs

tulip sapphire
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ah ic

chilly echo
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because you pay per course

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however

tulip sapphire
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there's no campus fee

chilly echo
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if you do courses on top of your regular # of courses

tulip sapphire
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or like being-a-student fee

chilly echo
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they are free

chilly echo
frigid zealot
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when do quants/hfts open up new grad apps? waiting for them to open up so i can apply asap

main gyro
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I got rejected from Waterloo... Without even applying (??). I think i filled a mailing list thing once and they rejected me on that 💀

Anyways

chilly echo
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you have to be setup with OUAC + Quest

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for that to occur

main gyro
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Exactly. That's why I'm confused

tulip sapphire
lost stratus
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Are there any startups started by ex quants? (Preferably finance or fintech)

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I came across Theorem Lp and Gauntlet Networks but im not sure how to look

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Wdym?

deep cargo
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didn't he sell it for like 60 million

lost stratus
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He only interned at hrt right

main gyro
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canadian?

shadow estuary
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that has to be a joke

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i can't believe someone thinks stanford grads start companies because they cant get quant

main gyro
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How is that possible 😭
Do u have canadian PR or something?

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or started pre pandemic with fixed tuition?

lost stratus
devout spruce
signal harness
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is cs+math better for quant than cs+stats

twin cloud
short patio
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Those are rookie numbers for IB wagers

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Wagies

shadow estuary
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except with ib its usually tedious and simple work for long periods of time

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in these cases its always high performance of technical work, where its very easy to fall behind and not meet the bar

long raft
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We are talking experienced swe not new grad / junior?

short patio
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Not worth tbh

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Might as well make 400K as senior at tech

long raft
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Amsterdam or US?

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I assume all the EU offices seem to be way more chill because of EU vibes 😂

lost stratus
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Is this for swe

And do most swe at headlands make that much/ a high number or is it only for niche roles

neat junco
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is it hard to get interviews for c++ roles if i have internship at HFT with java/python?

neat junco
short patio
neat junco
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Will keep grinding

ember night
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grinding for headlands this oct
wish me luck bros

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I have 5 months to be an absolute programming chad

rose holly
royal forge
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if you actually grind every class (reading the associated textbooks) + take good classes like PL/compilers and then LC on the side that's def enough

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for intern*

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none of them

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compilers just levels up your understanding of a lot of important CS concepts

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yea i plan on taking it senior year too

stark crow
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cit is a bit of a free for all but I very much doubt you’d need compilers knowledge lol or even the passive stuff you gain from doing it

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compilers is a cool course tho I’d recommend taking it esp if you liked discrete math

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interviews context ^

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For interviews more or less everything on your resume is fair game.
If you wanna min max your chances just being able to do lc, knowing OS and systems concepts and being familiar w sys design is more than enough for swe intern stuff

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C++/language trivia for akuna

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Y’all can’t take compilers until senior year? It’s a junior year course for us christmasToad

stark crow
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?

royal forge
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junior year considering coops?

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how would that even be possible

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dont u mfs have take 5 coops or osmething

stark crow
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6 but how does that play into this?

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You’re not doing courses while on coop lol

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Compilers is still a third-year course for us

royal forge
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if you coop every other semester then how can you take compilers jr year?

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so you take it 4th/5th semester?

stark crow
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With or w/o coop you still take it during your third year of university

royal forge
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oh wow

stark crow
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We don’t have breaks

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Our breaks are 2 weeks between school and internships lol

royal forge
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they get 35/hr cit coops like joma 😂

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or whatever it was

stark crow
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There’s a couple

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Most are swe interns tho

royal forge
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yeah true

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actually way longer than 5

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anyone know what quant FT salaries were like back then?

runic grotto
stark crow
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You still apply and do the interviews it’s just sometimes thru the internal job board

royal forge
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depends on other options

stark crow
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The only ones that post regularly are JS, Cit and OMC nowadays

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oh yeah DRW and GTS post regularly too

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DRW Montreal tho L

runic grotto
stark crow
royal forge
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lol

scenic bison
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incoming 2s dub?

runic grotto
royal forge
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described by neetcode as a "crackhead problem"

stark crow
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Only useful later on if you’ve got a perfect gpa

gaunt magnet
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Why is hft popular

cyan sparrow
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cit never asked me for transcript

scenic bison
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money

cyan sparrow
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idk if they do if u pass final tho

gaunt magnet
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U get sacked a lot faster in hfts

cyan sparrow
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official or unofficial?

gaunt magnet
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Smart ppl get sacked off hfts

runic grotto
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Like the courses you've taken and the grades you've gotten on them?

gaunt magnet
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Plus bad wln in hfts

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Wlb

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Are u mit

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Student

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Thought u were

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Are u a kpop fam

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Fan

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She's hot omg

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How is hft wlb

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Must be full of cracked kids doing some insane algo stuff

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Do u guys care for good wlb

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Imo for me I'd prefer bad wlb

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And more money

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Then chill for decades

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Grind lc

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How do folks get hfts but rejected from faang

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Fair enough. Do u know why

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Msft pays 60k or bit less ng in london

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Prob must be super competitive for you Americans, swe salary there is insane

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What ways

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Insane salary

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Ugh great

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Thought higher salary would mean more competition and better talent

timber quartz
gaunt magnet
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Google

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Google it

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Check yt

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Glassdoor

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Jane street

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Is quant a morally good job

royal forge
gaunt magnet
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Or neutral

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Idk faang

hexed rock
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yes i agree

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i just dont like the line "we're making the market more efficient" , its ok to want money

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you dont gotta make it sound like you took the job as a life goal or passion

hexed rock
broken thorn
# gaunt magnet Is quant a morally good job

its about as morally good as being a professional in a sport very few people watch (such as chess before pogchamps) imo. nobody gets entertainment out of it, and you are wasting your life on something that helps nobody. most people are fine with competitors doing that, so i think quant is fine for the same reason

hexed rock
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yes and that's ok i agree

cyan sparrow
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powell makes less than swe at faang im p sure

broken thorn
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JFC just realized how much of a rope outcome being appointed to an unelected position is

hexed rock
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its not untrue but again, idt it matters to anyone here how much more efficient the market is because of their contribution

broken thorn
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dont even get lobbyist money

hexed rock
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i hear it sometimes as a response to whether quant is a waste of smart people's time and energy

broken thorn
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are you saying that people who have mid iq and tech skill go into quant? or somethign else?

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i think its a bit disingenuous to call quant people mid iq

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terrence tao is one person, he also happens to be one of the smartest people

hexed rock
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is mid iq everything below like 170 iq

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to you

broken thorn
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3 digit iq = mid iq

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😂

hexed rock
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most could probably do work in AI if you think that's gonna make the world better

broken thorn
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nobody can really contribute on their own. if a professor makes a groundbreaking paper, it was likely an incremental step after tons of people cam ebefore them

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doesnt donating to charity make sense for tax purposes

hexed rock
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if you're a totally self-interested person its not gonna benefit you

royal forge
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W

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also W

broken thorn
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any definition of meaning is circular

royal forge
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not cool!!

broken thorn
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i also feel like that but to a much lower scale. I dont really care about impact to society, but i dont want my whole life to be coasting

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ofc i dont have the super impact/opportunity upside tho

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i guess all the more reason to avoid coasting

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becuase its that much easier for me

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side quests in life are kind of dope tho

cyan sparrow
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i like what bezos did tbh

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made his money then dipped

broken thorn
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become a pilot

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if ur serious about this i have some suggestions

royal forge
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yea u can make an anime quant*** clan

broken thorn
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how much luck do you want in the game, should it be solo or team, is it direct competition (like street fighter) or indirect (speedrunning), etc

royal forge
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agreed

broken thorn
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gotta pick a different game imo. autopiloting chess is a gigantic waste of time, overwatch is also far too easy to autopilot in

royal forge
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whats ur peak elo

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oh nice

broken thorn
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4 digit fide elo pog

cyan sparrow
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chaewon is a real life villian

hexed rock
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town mayor pogu

royal forge
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2017 ow was vibes

summer jackal
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im choosing between yale and stanford for undergrad, and looking to break into QT

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what do you guys think would be the better choice?

cyan sparrow
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berkeley betta

summer jackal
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gotcha

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how does tradfi compare to qt/quant roles

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i was thinkin of a CS major

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idk if tradfi is into that

runic grotto
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what kind of wrong friends

cyan sparrow
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🐐

summer jackal
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operations research financial engineering

keen grove
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math majors stay on top

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no bias from me ofc

summer jackal
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do u needa major in finance or smthn

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i thought tradfi is like investment banker

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hows the selectiveness and mobility

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idk anything about tradfi tbh

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but didnt think investment bankers made that much

broken thorn
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ivemen baker has exit ops

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ib -> bakery for instance

summer jackal
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so u can apply for ib at gs, jpm, etc with any degree?

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what are the interview questions like then

short patio
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But yeah literally any major, historically plenty of humanities kids have went into IB

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More important than major is do you go to a feeder

runic grotto
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What % of people who make it into IB end up getting their salaries scaled that hard would you say?

summer jackal
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oh i see

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@rose holly how come ur pursuing quant rather than tradfi

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wdym, couldnt you interview?

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already???

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so they usually open 1.5 yrs b4

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are you gonna try for 2025

uneven bronze
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Northwestern Mutual also still open

summer jackal
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also couldnt u just interview for ft

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without ib internships

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ah gotcha

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would you say tradfi always > quant if you can do either

short patio
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His name is joke

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It’s diff skill set

summer jackal
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what firms are top

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jpm and gs?

short patio
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You cannot work tradfi if you’re not charismatic

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Quant is literally all technical

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Don’t need people skills really

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There are boutiques that outlay the big banks

summer jackal
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i see

short patio
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Two of my friends are at Lazard and Baird

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Evercore is a big one

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Dawg why would you want IB

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You genuinely want to work 80-100 hrs for first few years?

summer jackal
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its bizarre to me that u can get a cs degree

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and bag IB internships

short patio
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I mean if all ur exp is IB then it makes sense

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Same way you can bag CS internships with like math major

short patio
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Yes

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Literally

summer jackal
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sheesh

short patio
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I am not joking

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Like literal 80-100/wk

summer jackal
short patio
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Idk all my classmates I went to hs with landed IB

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None of them struck me as that sharp

summer jackal
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i mean do most people even make it high up

short patio
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Hard workers yes

summer jackal
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after breaking into IB

short patio
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Charismatic yes

short patio
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Most people burn out

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There are only so many MDs vs associates

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Most people fuck off and do other things

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Exit opps are good at least

summer jackal
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how does ib make more than quant on avg then

short patio
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Skewed right

summer jackal
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if most ib ppl dont reach the super high levels

short patio
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MD = millions

summer jackal
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top shops vs top ib firms

short patio
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Quant pays more

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No?

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For entry lvl

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And mid lvl

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Not until D/MD will you actually make bank at IB

summer jackal
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quant pays more for entry and mid right

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gotcha

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i heard if u land after internship

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its pretty low fire rate

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idk if thats true

broken thorn
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over whole career?

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actually dumb question

short patio
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That’s the whole problem

broken thorn
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how many 30+ quants u know

short patio
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Nobody stays

short patio
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Bro use common sense

broken thorn
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ib u can exit into other stuff tho mr shart

summer jackal
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is it srsly that brutal

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how do ppl get up there then

short patio
summer jackal
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cuz id assume it takes >2 years

short patio
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If you exit

short patio
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IB people burn out

summer jackal
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IB

short patio
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Quant you either get fired or make so much money you decide to not slave away at the firm anymore so you retire

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Like what’s the point of working 50-60 at HRT if you have fuck you money

summer jackal
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i thought retention is pretty good

short patio
#

Just retire and do whatever

broken thorn
short patio
#

True, that’s why I’m gonna be the next ken griffin

summer jackal
#

if u get fired are u just screwed

#

since u cant switch

#

dang

empty meteor
#

I'm new here but what's exactly is TradFi?

short patio
#

Traditional finance

summer jackal
#

true

short patio
#

Investment banking

#

Why do you guys care lmfao if you’re on this server you are not white enough or charismatic enough to go IB

empty meteor
summer jackal
#

MDs make a few mils right

#

isnt that what most QTs make too

short patio
#

Correct

summer jackal
#

if u dont get fired after 5 years

short patio
#

Some MDs make way more

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Depends on what you’re heading

#

Probably like 1 or 2

summer jackal
#

if u perform top 1/3 after say 7 or 8 yrs

short patio
#

I’d imagine if you’re making absurd PnL you’ll get absurd bonus

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But that’s outlier

summer jackal
#

so avg MDs make mils

short patio
#

I’m being so serious

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Takes one to know one

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I am self aware

summer jackal
#

chaewon you cant go quant internship to IB ft?

short patio
#

But also pointing out that most of the server here is a bunch of fucking nerds

summer jackal
#

the technical finance q's seem easier than quant q's

short patio
#

They are

empty meteor
#

RenTech vs IBs, which is better?

summer jackal
#

what are you evaluated on

short patio
#

You’re comparing two very different things

#

Two diff skill sets

summer jackal
#

dang

short patio
#

Literally if people at the firm know you / did you have coffee chat with them

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Plus do you go to feeder or not

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Plus are you handsome and white and tall

summer jackal
#

lmao

short patio
#

But like what does any of this matter

#

Do you guys want to go IB?

summer jackal
#

not based on what ur saying

short patio
#

Not worth for 99% of people in this server

summer jackal
#
  • most dont make it high up
  • almost impossible to break in
  • 80-100 hours???
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and worse avg salary than quant

#

whats a+

short patio
#

Quant is much more selective

#

In interviews

#

IB is not hard if you go to target and start early

#

You just need to grind once you get in

summer jackal
#

ah

short patio
#

The hard part is not getting offer assuming target

#

Hard part is doing menial work for 80 hours for 3 years

#

And not wanting to kill yourself

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I know I couldn’t

summer jackal
#

is MD long hours as well

empty meteor
summer jackal
#

gotcha

short patio
#

Higher up you go less you work

#

Partners at MBB work like 30 maybe lol

#

All they do is put out fires and schmooze up clients

empty meteor
#

He's top IB currently

short patio
#

Most of tech is Asian nerds

summer jackal
#

true but to a lesser degree id assume

short patio
#

Doesn’t mean you won’t have minorities

summer jackal
#

quant is more selective than IB?

short patio
#

I’m not saying IB racist

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I’m just saying it attracts rich white kids

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They tend to be more of the people type than technical nerd type

#

Like I said two diff skill sets

summer jackal
#

makes sense

empty meteor
#

Thank god I'm born in the tech nerd era

short patio
#

Also wild that sophomores have finished their junior year recruiting for IV

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IB

summer jackal
#

but thats another reason not to go to IB

#

if you dont have those characteristics

short patio
#

Like how tf do you even have relevant resume atp

#

Buddy you think quant is better

#

You have to be pretty technically sharp

summer jackal
#

but almost nobody gets up there

#

plus the crazy hours

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100 is nuts

#

fair point

#

in terms of the actual work though

#

quant seems more exciting

short patio
#

For you maybe

summer jackal
#

my understanding is that IB is spreadsheets

short patio
#

Personal pref

summer jackal
#

i thought its more modeling

#

data science too

#

but do u have that much customization

#

dont u need stats as well

#

fair 😂

empty meteor
#

Yeah ig data is all you need, how you store that data doesnt matter that much

short patio
#

Moral of the story go found the next Amazon

summer jackal
#

dont QR/QT merge a lot

short patio
#

That’s real TC

summer jackal
#

do similar things

#

i dont imagine QRs are using excel

short patio
#

Quant IB everything peanuts compared to billionaire

summer jackal
#

dang

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why are they hiring PhDs then

short patio
#

To do excel better

summer jackal
#

wtf lmao

empty meteor
summer jackal
#

people at js and optiver just use excel?

short patio
summer jackal
#

never heard that

short patio
#

And make partner under 30

#

Gigachad

broken thorn
#

to be fair de shaw was very new fund

empty meteor
summer jackal
#

whats the point of trading games then

#

dont u gotta use some sorta logic

#

gotcha

empty meteor
summer jackal
#

are you tryna pursue a QT career

#

yeah makes sense

short patio
#

Bro is literally the 0.001% and clueless with his life

summer jackal
#

whats the mba for

short patio
#

Prestige

#

What else

#

Network

#

Resume value

summer jackal
#

oh

short patio
#

All of the above

#

GSB or bust

summer jackal
#

i thought quants are hired straight outta undergrad

short patio
#

He clearly doesn’t want quant

empty meteor
#

Just curious do you actually learn shit in MBA?

short patio
#

MBA is for IB or PE or VC

summer jackal
#

gotcha

#

seems like ur tryna mba -> ib

short patio
#

That’s rope outcome

#

He go straight to PE

#

Partner

summer jackal
#

whats PE

short patio
#

Jesus Christ

summer jackal
#

ah

empty meteor
#

So it's glorified entrance fee to an exclusive club

short patio
#

Why PE tho

#

For the money?

summer jackal
#

is VC stuff similar to IB or nah

short patio
#

Money isn’t there

empty meteor
short patio
#

Or it’s better than quant but not by order of magnitude

empty meteor
#

I love VC tho

short patio
#

You can then nepo ur children

#

Pretty based

#

Need to find a partner first

#

L bozo

#

Who gonna date you

#

wild

#

How’d you handle college

#

Or is she going to same college as you

#

Long term goals aligned?

#

Must be nice

#

Rare for hs relationships

#

LMAO

#

VC or rope

summer jackal
#

how do u break into PE

short patio
summer jackal
#

ah gotcha

short patio
#

Some stuck up chick from my HS went Wharton to PE

#

@rose holly accept my friend req it’s been like 5 weeks

summer jackal
#

ik someone who went google -> PE

#

basically nothing business

#

dunno how that works

#

dang im leaning towards stanford

short patio
#

No they go to YC startup #16399404 that shuts down

summer jackal
#

yale

short patio
#

R u in high school

summer jackal
#

yeah

short patio
#

Wtf are you doing here

summer jackal
#

wdym bad influences

short patio
#

Stanford probably good enough for IB anyway no

summer jackal
#

dont wanna be an swe

short patio
#

Not a feeder

#

But good enough

short patio
summer jackal
#

money 💀

#

everyone ik will roast me

#

since west coast

#

people bash yale stem

short patio
#

Just go VC from UG

#

Easy

summer jackal
short patio
summer jackal
short patio
#

There are numbers

summer jackal
#

quant seemed pretty interesting

#

but after seeing the stuff here

short patio
#

1 + 1 = 2

summer jackal
#

maybe not rlly

short patio
#

Quant isn’t trad fi

#

It’s nerd shit

summer jackal
#

wdym dead end

short patio
#

The exit is retirement or fired

#

Literally

#

Or I guess goSWE at faang

#

But that’s rope

summer jackal
#

worse research

#

or less research

#

yeah fs not

#

ive alr ignored the noise on that end

#

wont most retire

#

after say a decade and half or less

#

but u mentioned some firms that dont

#

you could target those 3

#

yeah im thinking cs

#

not sure if double major is useful

#

but ppl will point to stanford being #1 cs

#

and yale isnt known at all for it

#

whats SoTA

#

true

#

i mean this talk is making me reconsider yale

#

but realistically idk if itd be possible to go to yale

#

with parents preferring stanford a ton

#

yeah

#

well no

#

execs

#

but software companies

#

not super high up

#

no but they'd be dissapointed

#

as is every person ik

#

they think stanford is a no brainer

#

is yale that much better?

#

yale vs stanford would make or break for IB?

winged magnet
summer jackal
winged magnet
#

counterproductive for growth

#

bay area tech bro culture

summer jackal
#

theres gotta be some ppl into finance right

winged magnet
#

not intellectual if you know what i mean

summer jackal
#

also SWE helps for resume i assume

#

to get other roles

#

sheesh i didnt know stanford was this bad

#

its probably the dream school of half my hs

uneven bronze
#

Go to Alabama and rush a frat

#

Peak outcome

summer jackal
#

but idt yale cs majors are going here

#

rather the econ majors or smthn

#

you gotta start somewhere right

#

cant get an IB internship freshman year

#

i mean couldnt u just retire after a decade

#

i wanna do entrepreneurship long-term

#

and what would be the exit in IB

#

ah

#

whats hf

#

gotcha

#

i mean after retirement

#

idk maybe its the same then

uneven bronze
#

How viable is SWE -> MBA -> Tradfi

#

Or are you doomed with SWE nrtwork

#

Don’t like tech

#

Or want to ultra bag chase

summer jackal
#

whats sid

#

oh

#

mb i thought it was an acronym lmao

uneven bronze
#

IOI gold

#

Understandable

cyan sparrow
#

only 300 problems too 😭

#

chaewon burner back

summer jackal
#

How’d u land bw sophomore yr

amber veldt
#

how is insight better thanquant isnt insights analyst work just cold calling

summer jackal
#

Sheesh

#

How is 2s possible first yr

#

Swe?

#

oh

#

5 rings quant?

#

Sry the LinkedIn is blocked

#

Bw is VC right

#

Oh

cyan sparrow
#

hes friends w dhyey 🐐

summer jackal
#

Is it possible to land faang freshman yr

#

without changing grad date?

#

Hard to explain

#

If they check grad date

#

kk

#

Did u make it

#

Ah I see

#

Gotcha

cyan sparrow
#

meta is easier than zon if u can get past screen

summer jackal
#

Is non amzn possible freshman yr

#

Without grad change

#

By how much

#

Don’t some companies check

#

Ask for transcripts

#

I heard Google asks

#

?

#

Do u take out start date from resume

#

With grad change?

#

Wouldn’t u be on par with juniors

#

Does research experience count

#

I got one high if publication too

#

Idk if that counts for anything

keen grove
#

gang gang

#

academia / quant or bust for me

summer jackal
#

Is faang resume screen that tough

#

I just got research and hs internship

keen grove
#

"just"

summer jackal
#

Nothing else is feasible freshman yr

#

I assume quant and IB don’t want freshman

#

Is that summer?

#

Yeah

#

Not doing internships this summer

#

Just research

#

Stanford or Yale still deciding

#

Harvard waitlist if that ever pulls through lmao

runic grotto
#

Only guy I knew who got off it got presidential scholar

summer jackal
#

My research is bioinformatics too

#

But actual work is just data science

winged magnet
summer jackal
#

Cold email

summer jackal
winged magnet
#

💀

uneven bronze
#

Is doing CS masters in 4 years worth

summer jackal
#

Isn’t industry experience good

uneven bronze
#

Yea

summer jackal
#

Freshman yr??

uneven bronze
#

Yeah

#

It’s just taking more courses

#

And not sure if I’m tryna grad in 3

summer jackal
#

Idk any high level math lmao

winged magnet
#

everytime i hung out with friends i was thinking about harvard waitlist

summer jackal
#

If u had Princeton Stanford

#

Why does it matter

winged magnet
#

everytime i ate dinner it was only harvard waitlist

#

no i want cs phd

#

maybe math phd

#

i wish i went to princeton

#

💀

summer jackal
#

Why

uneven bronze
#

Transfer 💯

summer jackal
#

Stanford math is pretty good right

winged magnet
#

i dont like stanford

summer jackal
#

Weather

winged magnet
#

which one

summer jackal
#

What’s wrong with the culture

cyan sparrow
#

go bears

winged magnet
#

☝️

summer jackal
#

There’s still a quant club

runic grotto
winged magnet
#

i didnt hear about that

#

i dont have any upperclassmen friends in cs though

summer jackal
#

Wouldn’t that be a good thing

#

Full pay both

#

Same cost basically

winged magnet
#

their goal is google swe

#

thats the ceiling

summer jackal
#

Everyone here says otherwise 😂

winged magnet
#

you're at stanford

#

sky is the limit

#

but your goal is google swe

#

there's a problem with that

summer jackal
#

Isn’t that good

#

Less competition

uneven bronze
#

Is there a school with CS majors that don’t think like that

winged magnet
#

being big fish in a small pond is bad for growth

#

id rather be surrounded by people way smarter/more ambitious than me

summer jackal
#

What’s rope

shadow estuary
#

its BS

#

industry i think

keen grove
cyan sparrow
#

goober hour

winged magnet
#

stanford cs phd still a dream though

#

not bad like undergrad

summer jackal
#

Where u wanna go after

#

Academia?

winged magnet
#

yeah i want a phd

#

stanford cs/math maybe

#

or any hypm

summer jackal
#

Dang that’s the same situation as me lmao

keen grove
#

I can't want to get my phd and go into academia and make like 1/10th of the salary

winged magnet
#

sometimes i lay awake at night in bed and think what if i got off the harvard waitlist

uneven bronze
#

💀

keen grove
#

who is Alexander wang

summer jackal
#

Yeah

winged magnet
#

stanford actually not as bad as youd think though

#

just avoid cs majors

#

math majors pretty cool

keen grove
#

math >> cs

#

no bias (am math major)

uneven bronze
#

Guy like me choosing Arizona state over Stanford

keen grove
#

I hate this channel so much idk why I'm here

cyan sparrow
#

havent taken

keen grove
#

this channel is peak lack of touching grass

cyan sparrow
#

do not associate me w this channel

obtuse flame
#

This channel is a mix of troll and actually concerning thoughts lol

keen grove
#

it's like 1% advice and 99% hot gas

uneven bronze
#

Do they play Yale by ken Carson at Yale parties

keen grove
#

reading this channel is rope outcome

summer jackal
#

What’s rope

keen grove
#

drop pubs or stfu /s

broken thorn
#

rope is acronym

summer jackal
hexed rock
keen grove
#

Rope
Ope
Pe
E

shadow estuary
#

whats the worst thing u can do with a rope

summer jackal
#

Oh

broken thorn
#

really often pursuing enigmas

winged magnet
#

im not going to be a swe

#

im turning my life around

#

summer research secured 🙏

cyan sparrow
#

this channel is sub 50 iq

winged magnet
#

fall research soon 🙏

keen grove
winged magnet
keen grove
#

nice

#

REU or something else?

#

what field?

broken thorn
#

krinsha fun fact u can hold shift and hteen delet faster !rin @quiet questin @!skrush @robust totem

keen grove
#

research fun

#

it's doable

#

I'm doing it rn

broken thorn
#

ocntext switch ing is brutal

keen grove
#

but I wish I had less classes

winged magnet
#

but hes in sail

#

cracked prof

summer jackal
#

@winged magnet how much work load per week is Stanford cs

winged magnet
#

i just got insanely lucky

keen grove
#

sail?

broken thorn
#

fields medal winner cant context swtich. ur not gapped

keen grove
#

ah

#

AI 🤢

summer jackal
#

Reddit seems worse

#

I’ll def visit

uneven bronze
#

web3 dev is peak Stanford outcome

broken thorn
#

yep

#

famous for being a dysfunctional loser

#

i aspire to be him

summer jackal
#

Idk anyone at Yale

#

Stanford I’ve heard good things only pretty much

winged magnet
cyan sparrow
#

harvard wl student

winged magnet
#

good grades are free fr

#

only time i got below an a was in anthropology

summer jackal
#

That’s a big +

winged magnet
#

everyones different though i guess

summer jackal
#

That’s best possible then

#

You can do research in the school year

winged magnet
#

i got a test back this week and it was 62

summer jackal
#

Oh

winged magnet
#

💀

#

idk how they manage to do it

#

idk most profs dont post that

keen grove
#

it depends on the class I bet

winged magnet
#

and i havent checked it or anything

#

if i can

#

but i put in no work and do well (🤓 )

summer jackal
#

You’re prob hella cracked

cyan sparrow
#

Goat

summer jackal
#

Everyone ik irl says Stanford

#

But it’s west coast and people bash Yale stem

winged magnet
#

unless you're on the cornell subreddit everybodys just gonna suck off their school

fast gazelle
#

faang is bottom 10% at stanford

cyan sparrow
#

💀

runic grotto
#

Does low latency stuff transfer to startups at all or nah

#

Any AI related ones

#

I guess self driving cars

cyan sparrow
#

Esp any C stuff

runic grotto
#

To die

cyan sparrow
#

crud frontend

scenic bison
#

todo app engineer 🙏

#

html dev

final forge
#

wtf is this

#

why is this discord always full of children I'm going to rope

lyric loom
#

MEESTA RACOON

final forge
#

also yes everyone people are mediocre

#

very true statistically if you are in this chat you are mediocre because you lack the self control to get the fuck off discord

summer jackal
#

yeah for sure

#

id need a really good reason to go to yale

cyan sparrow
#

spitting

summer jackal
#

to convince parents n stuff

#

everyone on the west coast is obsessed with stanford

final forge
#

things I know about yale: the one person I knew who went there didn't like it.
things I know about stanny: idk anyone (personally) who went to stanny ug

summer jackal
#

its the dream school of half my hs lmao

#

ppl would think im crazy if i committed to yale

#

thats the issue

keen grove
#

who gives a fuck about people in your HS bruh