quants-n-traders

[dawn frigate]

what isit

[scenic bison]

...

its a hyperlink to a message in the server

u can see it says https://discord

[dawn frigate]

oh it's my comment

I don't know how what I said applies here. Not even fully sure I comprehend the exchange

my argument wasn't an ableist one, it was more choices-based since we would limit to a certain age

you can be mentally defective and still make great choices and end up extremely productive

[lost leaf]

i looked up eugenics on the discord search bar and found the local eugenics guy on the server

there's always one or two for some reason ( ???? )

[runic grotto]

I want to know what this said before it was edited

[dawn frigate]

since we're all here, is this true? so if he asks name 3 things you liked most and 3 things you disliked about your previous experiences they all have to be STAR?

[short patio]

No

[dawn frigate]

I said technical complexity, mentorship, ownership , forgot what I made up for dislikes

[runic grotto]

“Are you comfortable working in Python for this role”
“My love for Python began when I was 5…”

[dawn frigate]

lol

[short patio]

Ur fired

Situation task action result

No

Skill issue

[runic grotto]

No

I do read up on company values and that’s it

[short patio]

LP

Leadership principles

Zon bs

I don’t prep behavioral usually

Think i only bombed my first behavioral

Then I was like

At least have answers to common questions

Or have some stories to tell

[broken thorn]

if u gotta embellish it can be hard in the moment

"name a time you xyz" but youve only had one group project and nothing went wrong during it

[dawn frigate]

people suck

[runic grotto]

Yeah I think 70% of discord users are introverted or something

[dawn frigate]

people are the one variable you cannot fully control in a system and can think on their own

[runic grotto]

Oh I didn’t read what he said too carefully

[median tide]

what's the best prep for breaking into quant swe?

prep C++?

[final forge]

I've been a cpp dev for 4mo and I want out :)

verbal abuse shouldn't be encouraged

psychological abuse? shits cursed 0/10

seek help

oh oof what happened

[quasi orbit]

Java sucks

[final forge]

New traders undergo an intense training programme to set option prices and, according to the court ruling, these included setting prices for dick pics, the salaries for female porn stars and the most expensive bras. To celebrate a good trade, music with sexual connotations, such as ‘Jerk it out’ and Bitch2 were played, while traders took clients to strip clubs. Company drinks parties were known for their excesses, so much so that the company’s two female traders stopped attending them.

huh that's pretty wild

[lost leaf]

? y ping me

i cant read half those words

[quasi orbit]

That’s kinda gross tbh

[final forge]

from IMC

Java meant trading at single-digit response times measured in microseconds, however these latencies were inconsistent and only possible with complicated warm-up procedures and low enough loads. With C++ this all became easier, and we hit 5 µs right from the start.
life is pain

[dawn frigate]

wow I thought optiver was cool but didn't know it was this cool

massive awesome firm

[lost leaf]

most sociable and stable cscd member

[cyan sparrow]

People like greg are allowed in cscd but endorsi isnt

Shame

[lost leaf]

please stop bullying me

[final forge]

bro if you think "tricks" makes code good, I have a job to sell you...

also I would like to never work with you in a dev capacity literally ever

[cyan sparrow]

Java = mega cringe

[lost leaf]

because he is

[final forge]

I've aged 30 years in the span of 3 months

[lost leaf]

hes part of the boomer gang of whalur trading

cant expect perf mfs to be sane

[final forge]

the abyss stares back

[broken thorn]

watching this happen in real time is kind of funny

[lost leaf]

perf guy when someone calls on the deprecated crunkledank function which was replaced by the more performant poopfan function (1% faster) which takes 30x longer to compile and has different outputs when ran on an intel i7 2600, which is what all of the server infastructure is built upon

[final forge]

I don't know what low level tricks you are referring to in specific, and uh, if ur firm is stupid life is pain if you want to do things right

java does have some weird perf stuff related to weak refs based on hoping the gc didn't get around to actually clearing objects yet. I've never had to write ultra low latency java so not something I've worked with before

[lost leaf]

low latency java seems like an oxymoron

[broken thorn]

ultra low latency java sounds like a oxumoron

[broken thorn]

wow he thinks faster AND makes less typos, im gapped

[final forge]

honestly if they are actually getting single digit us response times out of a java trading engine on average, even ignoring dumb tail events, that's pretty good..

[lost leaf]

leak ip in a public server, what are yours

[final forge]

I'm not that stupid thanks

[lost leaf]

wtf

[broken thorn]

clearly double digit mus

[lost leaf]

toxic

[broken thorn]

source i made it up

[final forge]

you know it

[lost leaf]

we all know its 30us

[broken thorn]

30usd

[final forge]

no we still trade with abacuses so more like 30s

[lost leaf]

i remember my interviewer for your company said they did some infra in python and thats when i knew the entire company is cope

[final forge]

I'd be shocked if that was abnormal in the industry

there are plenty of random data tasks that probably aren't latency sensitive to any degree

this is probably generally good advice.I didn't really do c++ and got yeeted into a low latency team tho, so uh pray for good odds

[lost leaf]

u passed the vibe check

[final forge]

probably what happened ngl

helps that I did C/systems stuff in the past lol

yea got pretty lucky to be more business side, and actually writing fast code

what a gamer

payment for order flow W

I heard some vague news about that getting more regulated tho

nice

personally I use fidelity so you won't be stealing pennies from me!

fidelity doesn't do payment for order flow unless u just mean normal MM shit

in which case sure someone will take like the half penny spread on my orders

unbased. nobody forces investors to take liquidity. put ur own quotes in the market at ur own val and find a willing counterparty

I support your right to take money from people who give it to you

return to barter

based

[broken thorn]

do these writers understand anythinf about economics

this has the same vibe as the articles that say "inflation caused by companies raising prices"

[runic grotto]

*I know this is a QD interview

[final forge]

tbh I'm unsure of why the QDs get to be cooler than SWEs, from my perspective they're just python monkeys instead of c++ monkeys..

open source devs begging to get paid in their log messages

does this jedi mind trick actually work? brb career pivot

[runic grotto]

Basically trying out chatgpt prompts on actual humans

[cyan sparrow]

I’m QD rn they make me do both

I’m double monkey

[final forge]

fair that's not that uncommon, but you hopefully monkey around in cpp land less than the dev devs

I get to play around in python land a little too

[cyan sparrow]

Yeah my cpp work is mostly focused on fixing the system quants use

[final forge]

yup makes sense that's the cross over I typically see

[lost leaf]

what

[final forge]

huh for dev interviews I don't think I got assigned a team during interviews

[lost leaf]

??

[final forge]

u got thrown under the bus

sorry bud

[lost leaf]

stop bullying me, i never ghost ping

chaewon harassing me 24/7

[final forge]

I'm a brainlet but I've seen GQS in positive contexts lol

tf how

wait fr?

tf what r word

oh

[runic grotto]

[final forge]

yikes

yea I'm not trying to burn bridges in a small industry

[runic grotto]

Would you have changed your decision now if you could or do you think it’s the right one

[final forge]

is new place nice? if so who cares

[runic grotto]

Ah

[final forge]

ah

fs

I need to find a way of interrogating firms for how shit their code bases are

I have made mistakes in my life

this is HFT do u think ur in big tech? smh

I'm not I swear

[long raft]

They really don’t test? I thought especially in finance where a dumb mistake might cost you millions of dollars (aka knight capital 😂)

[broken thorn]

goozer

[split lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-25423213

[long raft]

claim or is it written on paper (aka guaranteed) ?
Because people often tend to oversell and when it comes to payday it never happens 😢

With that kind of money I would consider it 😂 but tbh as long as the work is interesting I would not mind doing crypto

(assumption its written somewhere on paper at least first year)

I mean bonus is never really guaranteed. But first year is often "guaranteed"

[tulip sapphire]

Hi i can give you 200M+ in random256-coin :))

[long raft]

when can i start to work? 😎

[tulip sapphire]

FYI random256-coin is worth $0

[long raft]

but @tulip sapphire made a good point. I would only take hard cash 😂

[tulip sapphire]

Some do but those are usually crypto companies and not crypto trading firms

Most pay in cash yeah

[long raft]

never take drugs you sell 😂

[tulip sapphire]

Simply do not trade crypto/drugs

[long raft]

how long was alameda running?

[tulip sapphire]

5 years

[long raft]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-gif-20689814

[tulip sapphire]

Didn’t HRT axe their defi division?

[long raft]

Do you mind sharing the company you are talking about?

[tulip sapphire]

They were hiring pretty aggressively for it a few years back

[long raft]

hahah so why are you overthinking it? 😂

From June 23 2022
https://www.ft.com/content/da6183cb-357b-46d6-906b-379b76312e3b

[long raft]

Imc too

[obtuse flame]

akuna

[long raft]

[insert company name]

McDonald’s 😎

[obtuse flame]

mcdonald nft

[long raft]

McDonald’s reward points on the blockchain 😂

[obtuse flame]

best firm

[weary path]

most of jumps revenue is from crypto. most hfts are in crypto by now. its always the same game just different hurdles, doesnt really matter what you trade

just take the better offer 🤷‍♂️

[lost leaf]

@rose holly take note

[quasi orbit]

Isn’t jump crypto fucked

[long raft]

why?

[leaden temple]

Whats the hrt intern book list

[long raft]

i have read that arbitrage on crypto is so lucrative because the market inefficient. Don't know if its true

[long raft]

book list?

[leaden temple]

Apparently they got textbooks and a backpack

[long raft]

Sounds really cool!

What was on shaws reading list?

[leaden temple]

whats that

[weary path]

hmm wouldnt say so. used to be like that apparently but those days are gone

[short patio]

is quant the goal? or some unicorn?

[raw glen]

those the dream

[short patio]

as qt or swe for quant

I think with your background, you can get interviews for either, so all you have to do is prep interview 🤷‍♀️

should be ez for a fella like you

i meant interviews for quant lol

SWE is just coding

for the interview

QR is like swe + math interview I've heard

I mean realistically you're chilling for quant firms just study interview

idk about brain/that stuff usually they hire phds right

Transition time 😎

@regal sorrel this can be u

https://www.linkedin.com/in/mingfong/

I see, I have no clue about the distinctions at these places

but I thought he liked swe 🤷‍♀️

[rigid rivet]

hey @regal sorrelhave u posted ur resume somewhere?

[short patio]

Probably not

[rigid rivet]

[lost leaf]

depends on connections

if you know someone at google research it's supposedly not too bad to get an interview/offer but without that connect it's damn near impossible to get past screen

he's too cracked for us

[rigid rivet]

cracked asf

[lost leaf]

he doesn't even need a resume

[rigid rivet]

just askin lol u seem hella smart

god

wait u go to MIT/harv?

[lost leaf]

i thought with goog you needed internal rs ref

?

im going to be a d tier swe for life

you should exploit that as much as possible

see how long it takes for bw to complain

i keep forgetting mit and harvard are right next to each other

yeah

id argue depending on goals csail could actually be better than industry research

lol

bw for the bag csail for the actual career progress

whats ur end goal

do a phd

u can do csail remote

research is generally extremely flexible with schedules and meetings too

[short patio]

What’s the reasoning behind interns with no return

[long raft]

Do interns always/quite often get return offers? (Not talking about places that hire thousands of interns like Amazon)

[short patio]

are we talking qt or swe

the whole idea behind interns is to convert to FT

[long raft]

Swe

[short patio]

when the economy isn't shit, you can usually get a return offer as long as you do your work and aren't socially incompetent

return offer rates range from 50-100% for swe

yeah, qt depends a decent bit, swe is much better

[lost leaf]

insanely based

[weary path]

damn didnt know deepmind was that hard to get, i know two people at my school who got rejected by facebook labs (or whatever that the CV lab is called) and got deepmind

ah wait is brain completely different to deepmind?

i see good to know

[cyan sparrow]

Cracked

[weary path]

oh shit first time hearing about this, looks awesome

my friend was looking for more ML-math focused research roles in the industry, this might be a bit closer to that

thanks

[rigid rivet]

Plz dm gawd

[quasi orbit]

slide into mine

[solar bridge]

How are trading roles at investment banks? I know it’s not like sig or js type of trading but does anyone have any context in this?

For example like jpm commodities trading or Morgan Stanley fx trading

[static musk]

almost every ib does prop trading too

which is very different in role to s&t

if u look at the resumes of some portfolio managers at IBs they’re pretty damn cracked

line between market making and prop trading is too blurry

this is what a pm at a bank told me to try and get me to pick quant dev intern there instead of go to a prop fund

but i guess he could’ve been fluffing it up or smth

[broken thorn]

@regal sorrel what makes these people "holy shit"? what should pop out to me beyond "stanford phd who works for deepmind"?

[broken thorn]

@quiet meadow obviously that makes them cracked but theres a reason {s} posted this profile

something makes them more "cracked" than the average deepmind person

and most deepminders are phd i can only assume, so its not that

[rose holly]

the meatriding for t10 is real

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-of-my-head-meme-cat-meme-gif-21336536

[atomic briar]

💀

[broken thorn]

can u explain? i have not figured it out

[raw glen]

another student of this advisor/cofounder
https://www.linkedin.com/in/keshav-santhanam-2917a0105/

[broken thorn]

yeye

but what made u figure it out? does the advisor cofounding databricks imply he can be that cracked? or what

urmessages made it seem like you figured out why the unlikely story can be true, im wondering what puzzle piece that was @cobalt marsh

thats not the notable thing

[raw glen]

what's the problem 💀 admiring people's careers immoral to you ?

💀

[broken thorn]

the notable thing is getting good position at like 5 different industries @rose holly

rather than one or 2 like most pol

hmm?

[raw glen]

if you think it's cringe you can jus not ? consume ? what you think is cringe

[broken thorn]

tbh wouldnt be against blanket banning linkedin profiles in this server

adds virtually nothing, could just be sent in a dm between chaewon and whoever else likes it

[split lintel]

I dont see chaewon posting linkedins

Lol

[quasi orbit]

I’m right here

[vernal hornet]

what’s citadel operations analyst intern pay

[short patio]

I love democracy

[tulip sapphire]

2s is a bottom tier quant firm

[obtuse flame]

There’s the transparency law so it’s on the job postings, iirc it’s 35-40

[royal forge]

anyone know what intern comp is like for QD/QR roles at banks?

i think for t1 banks it's 50-70 and for lower tier 30-50

[royal forge]

no idea

ive seen very few data points

radix simp would know

@agile steeple

[molten valve]

Please let me know if this in the wrong ch and I'll move it.
So, I have an Aerospace Msc and right now I have a verryyyy stable job at a very big aerospace company. I'd say for aerospace standards, I don't think I could be anywhere better than where I am now. However, the comp I'm getting is nowhere near enough to achieve my mid-long term goals and even with the vast progression opportunities, I'd probably break the 100k mark by the time I'm 50 or something (or if I go into contracting).

I mostly do embedded system development (C++, Matlab), so I have a relevant background for programming, algorithms, etc. I'm also learning more and more low level stuff that I was told is important for CS jobs.

My question is, how is the stability in a job at trading companies like Jane Street, Optiver, Hudson River, etc... which are the companies I'm interested in because of comp. I'm in the UK with a work visa, so if I get the job and I'm fired before the probation period is over, I'd be fucked.

I'm considering this because the aerospace field is very limited in terms of where I can work. I'm a EU citizen on a UK visa right now and I would never be able to go to the US to work for my sector due to security clearance issues.

[obtuse flame]

Company dependent, but Jane Street and HRT don’t really fire ppl, biggest issue you’re gonna have is actually getting an offer

[molten valve]

Ah alright, that's good to know. I see so many horror stories on reddit and right now I'm not really in a situation to be taking a risk that high

If I'm fired in london after 3 months I'll be fucked pretty hard

Should I leverage my experience? I basically have 2 years of SW development, but it's completely unrelated to finance and the majority of work I'd probably be doing. I just code applications for Cortex processors in C++, but most of my work is requirement gathering and talking other teams for integration/IO issues

Im a control systems engineer

[obtuse flame]

What do you mean by that

[molten valve]

I mean should I apply to entry level positions or more experienced positions?

[obtuse flame]

They’re not gonna let you interview for entry level roles, that’s reserved for new grads

[molten valve]

I'm honestly so tempted to get another Msc just to be able to say im a new grad

[open valley]

Is compilers experience helpful at all in getting like a quant swe interview

[molten valve]

How is performance measured?

[tulip sapphire]

ik of people who were fired from HRT

or my friend at HRT told me he saw it happen a lot more recently => it does happen

[molten valve]

yea that's the thing. I'm just figuring out if the risk is worth the gain. If I want to, I'm set for life where I am (from a career perspective). Just wouldn't be able to get the kind of money I want...
And I guess work could be more exciting

granted I would only accept an offer above 100k but I think that's pretty much standard for any top trading firm

well, Im putting the cart way ahead of the horses, Id need the offer first

thats still a 5-6 month timeline

And I guess if I don't take risks at 25, I never will

[weary path]

if you are EU i would try to get an engineering job in Switzerland, better quality of life (but high COL) but pay to match.

[opaque sable]

definitely worth it, if you can get in

even if you get fired, you won't have much trouble getting interviews with a company like hrt/js on your cv

"just move country" is strange advice, and i don't even think there's many hft offices in zurich

[short patio]

Dawg just go get a normal SWE job you can easily clear 200K, why are you set on quant

and the prep is nowhere near as difficult

[opaque sable]

he said he's in the uk, he won't get 200k with 2 yoe at other companies

[molten valve]

this ^

the rest of europe is even worse as far as im aware, and tbh I don't really want to live in a country with a language barrier again. Its just not pleasant

[long raft]

Even at faang(EU) you won’t get 200k 😂

(Not including CH because that is really an exception)

[royal forge]

CH?

[long raft]

Switzerland

[weary path]

i guess if it has to be london you are prolly best off trying for SWE jobs in quant companies, those should clear 100k base. Trader is too much variance imo and im not a fan of the non-competes

[royal forge]

they pay 200k for what? entry level?

[long raft]

EuroPOORean 🥲

[weary path]

havent seen 200k for entry in switzerland yet, but most uni grads clear 200 after 5-7years

[royal forge]

5-7 years 😂

[long raft]

Google Zurich is known for good salaries compared to rest of standard Europe

That’s why everyone and their grandma wants to move to the US. (Ofc only if the compensation is the main motivation)

But if you get a good finance related job in EU pay can be really good but to get one is really hard 🥲

[weary path]

i mean avg salary 10years after graduation in the US is around 130k apparently 😂🤷‍♂️

[short patio]

Yeah but even if you’re exceptional you’ll barely hit 100K in Europe

[molten valve]

keep in mind 100k in europe is more than enough for luxury living if you are single and/or have no kids

I also enjoy not having to pay 10k if i ever have to call an ambulance 😄

but that's way too off topic

for me its 100k+ or bust, so that'd be HFT

40k starter salary

for a non graduate

graduate is ~30k

you can go up to 70k, more or less, without having to compete, just based on performance. After that it's management and you can earn more

thats std for the top companies in UK engineering (not IT)

This is for good companies btw. I keep seeing aerospace companies offer 55k for manager positions

when i tell ppl where i work, their response is always like "damn, you must be swimming in cash"

ikr!!!

the thing is you work 5-10 years at mercedes and then go work as a contractor for 120k/year or something like that

you can even make your own LLC with you as your only employer and pay an absurdly low tax rate for certain positions

btw, graduate salary for the mercedes F1 team is 33k

fun fact... considering they work like 12h a day

engineering pay is shit compared to SWE, that's why I want to change

ahaha i dont work for mercedes, just a know a bunch of ppl who do

i wont tell you where i work, i'd be doxing myself

[long raft]

Palantir will make that happen for you 😂

[opaque sable]

yea this is what a lot of americans dont realise. im sitting here in a capital city with total expenses of less than 1.5k a month

with 100k you'll be very well off, even in london

you can definitely get 100k+ at faang with a few years of experience, pretty sure every faang will pay above that for L4 equivalent

but 200k+ is where you have to go to hft

[weary path]

if you are actually exceptional you can easily clear 170 starting

[short patio]

damn u should tell the UK guy that

[weary path]

thats what google zh pays and actually citsec started hiring new grads in zh, and their interns made 240 prorata

[weary path]

ah yes, @molten valve you will easily make 100+ with your profile in swizerland if you are willing to be a SWE

but then again language barrier might deter you (although for the job it will prolly not)

[signal bloom]

Anyone who were selected for Sig Discovery Day? (for this year or past)

[long raft]

Wait citsec hires ng for Zurich offie?

Need to hit up that one professor on LinkedIn 😂

[molten valve]

they are also in singapore. thats another place i wouldnt mind moving to

[long raft]

Eating satay every night 😍

[weary path]

yeah just talked to them today, even got merch 😂

[long raft]

Hahaha yeah saw their and Optivers post on LinkedIn 😂

[thorny gate]

does anyone who did akuna c++ remember their final problem. I bombed mine back in the fall and Im tryign to remember the problem so i can try to do it now

[crude ember]

If they do I'm taking it all

I'm sorry

Schumi did impossible there

[long raft]

Startup?

[long raft]

I have heard when you buy 3 shirts you get the Ferrari Team principle position for free 😂

[crude ember]

It must be true cuz those shirts are EXPENSIVEEE

[long raft]

Yeah. I just need to buy one more to get my free principle position 🥲

[crude ember]

2/3 just like the amount of weekends they performed

[molten valve]

i would buy 2 and then 1, so id get 3 shirts but no team principle position

wouldnt be caught dead in that clusterfuck

[broken thorn]

if my goal is quant trader, i feel discouraged going to a worse internship this summer than previous internship because it would probably look bad, and feel like doing research or maybe even nothing would look better. does anyone have advice here?

a different direction (research) feels like less of a concession/compromise than going from tech company to something like military contractor

[lost leaf]

Work at wendys

[broken thorn]

id be better off doing nothing and studying for interviews

[lost leaf]

Work at wendys

[broken thorn]

assuming ur not joking, and if you are pls refrain

im being serious, do you mind

[lost leaf]

Research is good either way do it for cultural enrichment

[broken thorn]

im doing it this spring right now

so i figure if i have that then maybe i can get past a few resume screens off of phys research + mid tech internship

since QT is a bit more lax on resume reqs

[floral locust]

Wat

[broken thorn]

so id be better off grinding for qt interviews

[broken thorn]

what part do you not understnad, i can be more clear

for sure. what about if it was military vs nothing? money is no object here

[lost leaf]

Something > nothing

[broken thorn]

its a step down from prev tho

yeye

[floral locust]

Prestige is dumb

[broken thorn]

i want to put near 100% into qt this season because its effectively my last shot at QT unless i go to grad school

since faang can be gotten after i graduate

[lost leaf]

Then get a phd like @rose holly is doing soon

[broken thorn]

while qt is mostly for interns->full hires

[floral locust]

Qt is just fancy ib

My excel skills are actually getting p sick @rose holly

[broken thorn]

effectively only blowing one since this one is likely alreday blown

but ye thats a good point

i do not go to target

the reason im considering this is that if i dont, then i will have this "what if" unanswerd for the rest of my life

usually i have time to try what ifs

but qt is basically impossible after school right

[floral locust]

Not rly

[broken thorn]

is that mostly a js thing then?

[floral locust]

No

[broken thorn]

virtually every js qt started as an intern

dont they hire like one or two people most years

while interns is a good bit more

couldnt contractor mess up chances of passing resume screen?

do you mean previous finannce xp?

cuz i do have a tech internship

[rose holly]

how confident are you about landing a job after graduating

[broken thorn]

i figure going from tech company to non tech would tell a story of someone who has fallen from their peak, i kind of see resumes as a story

[broken thorn]

in tech? quite confident, although maybe overconfident

resumes tell a story, right?

[rose holly]

if you're sure you have something to fall back to if QT doesn't work out then sure go 100% QT

but i think that's a bit naive

[broken thorn]

im sure i will eventually have something good

even if it takes me 2 years to get faang or something, that wont affect my career much big picture

[rose holly]

^

as long as you have a job after graduating ig

[broken thorn]

lack of ambition is much more likely to cap my career than being late

i think yall are convinceing me to do research though, and i have a couple more months to decide how hard im all-inning qt

i will still apply to amazon google c1 etc, just not spend a lot of time prepping

spending most of my time studying and applying for those jobs, so if i end up getting 0 offers i will have no regrets of "if only i tried harder"

im trying to do the "choose your regret" thing bezos talked about before

no, but i can go schizo mode and apply to all of radix's list and email recruiters and stuff

chae/cat could you explain what is wrong with what i said?

[rose holly]

can't you work a job and do that too

doesn't seem like it'd take a lot of time

[broken thorn]

i actually dont care if i get a "low tier" firm in qt

ah ok so the wazowski is because yall think i will have enough time to apply and do job

[rose holly]

maybe you can do part time research too if you want more time to prep for QT

[broken thorn]

that sounds like a great idea

wym by tech?

internship?

[broken thorn]

ah ok. maybe i should have worded it less meme-y

basically i am not picky at all, im not just interested in QT because of high pay/prestige, id want to work the job even if it was at a "low" tier firm

[final forge]

why?

[broken thorn]

thats what i thought, @floral locust @rose holly isnt this true?

[floral locust]

Sure js isn’t end all be all lol

[broken thorn]

im genuinely interested in QT]

[broken thorn]

ofc ofc, i just assume its similar to other companies but maybe not

[floral locust]

Do trading if u wanna make money but don’t delude yourself into thinking it’s for doing interesting work

[final forge]

I still genuinely don't know what QTs even do rofl

[floral locust]

Very unique case ik who ur talking about

[floral locust]

Bully devs

[final forge]

have some vague idea of what QD/QRs do

QTs? not a clue

[floral locust]

Human will always beat a machine

[lost leaf]

why not? u r a qt

[floral locust]

Machines have more coverage tho

Hrt wants to move to semi systematic rofl

[broken thorn]

i would see it like poker, my goal is to make money only because that is how success is measured, not because i actually want to earn income from poker

[floral locust]

Sig makes a few acres a year in equity options by manually day trading rofl

And they farm the “systematic” trading

[final forge]

I'm no gigabrain, but I think that's a lot of products lol

[final forge]

holy based

[floral locust]

Idts

[floral locust]

Wait computer is rly ez to exploit lol

U just like trick the computers ur trading against

[final forge]

not surprised, still very based

[floral locust]

It’s just that machine fast and has much coverage

[final forge]

I enjoy getting bullied by traders

[floral locust]

Can I submit GUI request?

[final forge]

wrong dept

actually I'm gonna have an aneurysm related to that but details

[lost leaf]

if you are chasing only money you should do a pure math phd and mend your broken ways in the cabin

the Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

[floral locust]

Cabin in the woods?

[lost leaf]

amen brother

[floral locust]

Cabin in woods can’t buy ergonomic chair tho

[meager anchor]

facts

[lost leaf]

the most ergonomic chair is the big rock that our ancestors sat on for millennia

[meager anchor]

[lost leaf]

have you even unwrapped your chair yet

[floral locust]

No

[final forge]

incorrect, most ergonomic chair is the one you hand carved from a tree you planted, chopped down, and meticulously polished the incredibly hard wood of

[floral locust]

I’m actually heading to office soon

[broken thorn]

i love the indstural revolition

my only complaint is computers are too powerful

performance rarely matters because hardware is too fast

[broken thorn]

most ergonomic chair is squatting

[lost leaf]

steelcase leap || gesture

[broken thorn]

outside of western society this is how people vibe, squatting more natural than sitting

[broken thorn]

@quiet meadow coders have it to easy, the only good program ever was the apollo guidance computer

does this semi joking meme convey my point better?

depends where, for finance it def does

but often times your loading screen will be blocked by an unavoidable 2 second delay and any optimizations you do to the load time will turn 20ms into 15ms, which doesnt matter compared

[quasi orbit]

i think theres too much pressure for trading

hard to enjoy something when its so competitive

[broken thorn]

i dont know until i try, but i dig super competitive stuff generally, the time right before is the worst feeling ever though

10 mins before a wrestling match or a tournament set in a game is excruciating, once it starts its one of the best feelings

[silent venture]

I am a CS major doing my undergrad, I wanna get into quant space, what are some projects that might help me get an internship at the trading firms?

[runic grotto]

What if you can only get 11th

[lost leaf]

off to cromulent capital management ltd. you go

[runic grotto]

[harsh kindle]

actually cracked wtf

[runic grotto]

Why do you believe that to be a waste

[cyan sparrow]

Bro I think you misunderstand

He is founding engineer

The team and startup looks stacked too

[runic grotto]

Send

[cyan sparrow]

Yeah exactly

[cyan sparrow]

https://modal.com/

Cringe

Plus not everyone wants to be ceo

Some ppl actually like engineering

[broken thorn]

its trillion dollar prolly

well

100 billion today or trillion in 30 years

pick ur poison

doge smile

[broken thorn]

ye there so bullshit its unreal

1. buy forest that wasnt going to be leveled for firewood anyways
2. calculate how mucb carbon is in the trees
3. pretend you saved the forest from being cut

[strange breach]

for quant dev/SWE, do extensive systems experience, faang internships, and target school outweigh a low GPA ( < 3.0)? Or will there always be a hard minimum that basically bars you

specifically for hrt, js, etc — I’ve heard they don’t care about gpa, but im not sure how true that is

[scenic bison]

Yea Greg is mentally ill lol

He called nuro new grad low and said something about why are girls important if you can just buy them@

[split lintel]

Should the mods ban him? He also made some weird eugenics statements

I already gave him a warning about those

Ok they're gone now

[scenic bison]

W juda

[cyan sparrow]

W juda

[sand willow]

anyone know what business dev at JS is

[runic grotto]

If I got a referral for cit, do I need to do a separate application or will the referral do the "applying" for me?

[floral locust]

Latter

[runic grotto]

Thank you

[scenic bison]

Ask @ nosimp

[rose holly]

Girls aren’t important tho, only TC is

[split lintel]

[crimson arch]

Anyone have an updated list of the kirb 350

[atomic briar]

also alexandr wang is annoying

[lost leaf]

is scale really just data labelling

[atomic briar]

https://twitter.com/alexandr_wang/status/1602083905565495297?s=20&t=7mc3naTAIW5jDUEdHHw2BQ

Alexandr Wang (@alexandr_wang)

Silicon Valley is full of tourists. It’s absolutely toxic

The promiscuity of tech is blasphemy to any wise business leader of the previous generation

Human history is written by people who go all-in. Take your commitments seriously; give it your all.

Fickleness results in ruin

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💀

[floral locust]

Do u rmb his tweet that’s like date someone in college or smth

[atomic briar]

https://twitter.com/alexandr_wang/status/1621935999373938689?s=46&t=NSnwqcP2pFydGcLCiMRyxQ

Alexandr Wang (@alexandr_wang)

the #1 reason to go to college is to find a significant other before the Real World corrupts you and all your suitors

the #2 reason is to make friends with whom you can share your whole life arc

then it’s a distant 3rd to… great parties?

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he's an interesting guy

my main problem with him is how much he glorifies "the grind"

[tulip sapphire]

akuna qd has some people who are really good talent-wise

[atomic briar]

lmao do y'all just talk about real people this way

[runic grotto]

What did she do 💀

[atomic briar]

waittt they dated?

also yea I really hate lucy

I wouldn't want my boss constantly yapping about grinding

[floral locust]

Cope

Some nc don’t require u to have competing offer

Others just need to present competing offer but not sign

Some firms will pay for a year of missed bonus during nc

P standard

Buyout clause?

[tulip sapphire]

stanford is best school for startups and has highest EV tbh

[weary path]

would work if you don’t make any money at the startup

most non-competes i have seen only pay the base salary, in fact many of the big guys will force you to give back the bonus you received the year before if you quit too early in the year

[split lintel]

Oh thanks lol

[long raft]

Amateurs, I can teach it in 3h 😎

[clever bridge]

joma's brother is op

[lost leaf]

It was the most hysterical occurrence that an individual can behold. He turned himself into a pickle

[lost leaf]

Chae definitely watches richard and mortimer. too elitist for the common man's rick and morty

ivy kids 🙄

[atomic briar]

Talking about “gems” and “mean” talent at lower-tier companies

Very corporate slave mindset

then yeah lol

also the whole idea of quantifying a person's worth by their job is a little dumb

it feels like that is going on at least implicitly here

[tulip sapphire]

same

but from his research experience alone (which gaps mine) he probs wouldnt even be wrong in doing so

[tulip sapphire]

yeah it is definitely being used as a signal for how much they make if nothing else

which is commonly used to quantify people's worth, even when we are still students who make 0

[lost leaf]

He is undeniably cracked he’s just got a couple screws loose

I have never seen a man this distraught over a fairly good offer

[barren steeple]

optiver is trash as well

im jbeing honest

akuna and optiver are j both booty

never

im not doing imc

[pearl spade]

quant is love quant is life

[sterile stump]

is computer science the right degree to become a quant?

mathematics and physics right

then what

no way

i would have thought math > physics > stats > CS

and probability?

CS courses emphasise too much on coding

which quant

quant research?

i feel like you need PHD in something related to stats/probability atleast

probability theory then atleast

I did applications for grad school, rejected from all

so doubting that i will get into grad school at this point

might just settle for a code monkey job

and do trading on the side

isnt quant SWE basically just a SWE

just working on data

a quant SWE doesnt come up with trading algorithms do they

then what do they do?

oh

nah thats interesting

Is there a book or course that teaches the basics of quant trading?

yep 🙁

[boreal kiln]

Is anyone here attending SIG's Sophomore Discovery Day for Women - Technology?

[sage kite]

anyone have a link to a list or something of fintech new grad/jr jobs

[cyan sparrow]

Why not openai

[grizzled osprey]

They should still be on garden leave?

eventually it'll get boring and you'll start working again

[runic grotto]

So like a teacher at MOP or something?

Working with insanely smart kids does sound pretty cool

[rose holly]

https://tenor.com/view/speechbubble-speech-bubble-please-meme-gif-25693113

[runic grotto]

Ah ok

[cyan sparrow]

A retired quant did something like this https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-secrets-of-americas-greatest-high-school-math-team-11657791000

Basically Nick Saban for math comps

[coral cosmos]

Has anyone here done the Jane Street FTTP program before?

[coral cosmos]

Hi

[lyric loom]

agni :pkinglove:

[obtuse flame]

Anyone have insight on being a quant trader for 6 months to around a year and then hopping back to being a SWE (since you don’t enjoy it)? Not sure if I should try out quant trading as a new grad - I do see ppl on LinkedIn who did trading for a year then did SWE but not sure how feasible it is now in this market)

[quasi orbit]

@smoky gulch super cracked and future trader

[pearl spade]

if u can get QT u can def transfer back to SWE easily just bc of difficulty bars

[long raft]

Doesn’t QT require totally different set of skills than SWE? Like as QT you probably won’t bother with designing software, analysing database execution times to find bottlenecks or debugging large code bases to improve performance? I mean yeah you can code as QT but there is more to being a swe than coding (imho)

[pearl spade]

the bar of interviews for QT and the topics covered is a lot harder than SWE for interviews

the average QT bar is definitely higher than big tech/unicorn SWE ; for quant finance SWE id argue the same with the addition of harder LC and systems concepts

and a lot more cutthroat also for QT

[obtuse flame]

ya i'm mainly concerned about the swe market being unfriendly to new grads in the coming years so i may royally screw myself

For reference to all, saw people go from SIG/Flow Traders trader (1-2yr) -> google/bloomberg/two sig swe on linkedin

[pearl spade]

itl be much more friendly

once bear goes to bull

[smoky gulch]

ur scamming in the wrong chat

[shut trail]

Anyone in the Jane Street Immersion Program (JSIP)?

[sterile stump]

Learn maths

Real analysis linear algebra and probability theory at least

[twin cloud]

@rose holly you’re actually going to bias wreck me with your pfp

i’m faithful to kazuha only

[raw glen]

bro 💀

[wintry tendon]

william winkenwerder clears unfortunately

[pearl spade]

one is a MUCH higher bar ; you think that its the same/easier to pass JS/Optiver/Radix/etc QT over like C1/Hubspot/Msft/G-F/Db/Nuro/etc (the interview)

even for swe @ quant bar it was higher than big tech/unicorn for me but not stupidly above like scale ai

[runic grotto]

Did you find scale's interview bar to be pretty high among unicorns

[winged magnet]

quant maybe

tech in general nah

[pearl spade]

scale was the one interview where i felt hopeless ; higher than swe @ quant bars

[runic grotto]

I presume you mean the debugging round?

Or another one in the final

[pearl spade]

id say 3/4 rounds ; i knew the phone q and still barely finished on time ; for final the lc q was normal the debugging and the behavioral felt hopeless

[runic grotto]

Yeah phone was brutally long

[obtuse flame]

Just for a different perspective I thought Scale was fine outside of the debugging round in the final (where it can REALLY depend on how supportive your interviewer is) vs me failing two sigma Phone cause LC skill isn’t good enough

[floral locust]

What bar

Are we talking about

[pearl spade]

u should have submitted regardless

i got 0 cases into phone

[stable fossil]

other than quants interviews scale was the only unicorn i passed

[lyric loom]

EL RACOOON

[stable fossil]

i found quants easier lol

[lyric loom]

🦝

[stable fossil]

failed everything else 😦

[lyric loom]

@rose holly

[obtuse flame]

tell me you go to a target school + have quant internship without saying it lol

[stable fossil]

i think interviews are easier too

i’m not target had no prior quant

[obtuse flame]

compared to what

[stable fossil]

unicorns

and non FAANG top tech companies

the easiest interviews were JS and radix in terms of question difficulty

[runic grotto]

How many rounds did radix have?

[obtuse flame]

yeah you're a different breed lol

[stable fossil]

1 phone and 4-5 final

[runic grotto]

Ah ok, thanks

[obtuse flame]

Uber, Roblox, datadog are all easier than my two sigma phone screen

[stable fossil]

then u can prob pass quant cause i failed roblox final 💀

[runic grotto]

You mentioned LC earlier, was it a LC hard?

[obtuse flame]

it's just rng for tech companies, but quant is pretty much consistently hard (except for cit with rng as well)

my roblox final was legit lc easy

or easy-medium at most

behavioral was a bit rough

[lost leaf]

qt is trivial, get a math phd instead

[obtuse flame]

kinda, it's like lc hard to make your code clean

implementation heavy

[runic grotto]

Ah rip

[floral locust]

Cabin in woods?

[lost leaf]

amen

[lyric loom]

:salute: amen

[stable fossil]

yeah cit was the hardest quant for me but someone said they get easies 🥲

i got 3 med/hards every round

w some math, ML/AI, and systems design stuff

[obtuse flame]

yeah the process is riddled with rng, esp in cit's case

OA can be dp hard or medium

phone and final can be easy lc or hard af stuff

ya those are just resume screen rng

[obtuse flame]

did you put ml ai stuff on your resume?

[stable fossil]

yeah haha i have a decent amount

schools only good for ML

[obtuse flame]

ya what i learned from cit is to nerf your resume as much as you can lol

don't put OS

or stat stuff

the grill will come

[runic grotto]

Oh fuck

[stable fossil]

i think ur resume profile really matters

didn’t make it past resume screen for core dev hrt w 848 but did algo dev w non optimal OA

[obtuse flame]

true, oa bar isn't that high when you have exp

optimal cit strat is to get referral and use a shit resume

[stable fossil]

i don’t have any OS experience or low level on my resume so i’m guess that’s why algo dev was a better fit

[obtuse flame]

know someone who got core dev intern had 2 prev c++ internships

crazy how things can snowball

you choose to do a python/mobile intern project and you're screwed from those roles lmao

[runic grotto]

You got shafted with math and ml/ai problems for the swe role?

[stable fossil]

shafted nah grilled kinda? but not too much

[runic grotto]

Ah

[stable fossil]

wasn’t too bad though mid interview performance but got highest range offer

only like 2-2.5 questions solved per interview 🥲

[lost leaf]

they probably didnt expect nearly what you were able to do if they were going especially hard on u

[stable fossil]

maybe but i think it’s cause i had competing and was talking w other firms

[tulip sapphire]

yeah but people also get lc hard

i think it depends on your interviewers mood tbh

like if they read ur resume and feel like they wanna fuck u over theyll give u a hard q

thats just been my vibe tho

like if u pass the vibecheck theyll give u an easy q

but i have no data to back that up

other than the fact that everyone ik with prior quant experience got easies and everyone i only know from this discord got hards

[obtuse flame]

Prob subconscious of if you don’t have previous exp, they want to grill you more, otherwise just making sure you are basically good

[lost leaf]

could also be that everyone you know is unimaginably cracked and think lc hards are trivial

[obtuse flame]

This too lol

They def don’t have trouble landing top tech interviews, at least compared to other schools

[lyric loom]

top tier talent like me

[lost leaf]

i passed tata consultancy services screen (have a beating heart and breathe air)

couldnt do the technical though, they wanted me to print an array

tried doing print on an array in javascript and my printer started spewing out papers

had to leave the call

really sad innit

[stable fossil]

didn’t try for algo swe

qt

oh i meant like i didn’t bother asking about it

technologist idt radix has traders

radix?

phone lc easy onsite meds

c++ requirement for 1 interview tho

[rose holly]

wtf

[stable fossil]

for non dev ops

nah it’s not meant to be hard

[lyric loom]

THE NEW MEESTA RACcoon

🦝

[stable fossil]

during the private dinner the cofounder told me when he interviews he changes it based on ur resume so maybe he took pity

[lost leaf]

everyone nowdays has a phone

[stable fossil]

but he doesn’t interview phone anymore only on-site i think

[lyric loom]

I was at the dinner too

[stable fossil]

idk they sent an email to my school email saying they saw my interests and thought i would be a good fit and if i would like to learn more and shit

which was weird cause my resume doesn’t have my school email

and i don’t put it anywhere

so maybe some school board

nah

i can’t do handshake lol i’m not american

QT interns but i don’t think it’s public

radix isn’t as good as ppl think it is

pay is like HRT level

less than JS and Cit

[tulip sapphire]

isnt it 150/hr

or is that cap

[stable fossil]

oh for full time

[tulip sapphire]

no i mean for intern

[stable fossil]

intern pay doesn’t matter

[tulip sapphire]

oh yeah

[stable fossil]

true

[tulip sapphire]

but if they pay interns a lot and are elitist/only select from a few schools then...

[stable fossil]

i didn’t do intern for QT

[tulip sapphire]

then everyone here will simp for them 😂

[stable fossil]

HRT isn’t the highest

i’m pre sure the levels posts are wrong

big firm wise it’s prob cit

but smaller i think prob TGS or headlands w competing?

cit garden leave is hella long

[floral locust]

Cit will pay more to poach too probably

[pearl spade]

how much did they reject after onsite ; i know onsite was a major filter for me and others

i didnt know u had to be culty about the company in behaviorals

[stable fossil]

you can search stuff up during radix phone haha

they specifically allow u to cause it’s not realistic to not have google during work

[lyric loom]

@rose holly hi

[thorny gate]

yeah i got lc hard in cit too good thing I did it that week tho

[stable fossil]

my guess is radix looks for a specific profile which is why they seem exclusive cause ik ppl that got through w < 3.5 GPA

[cyan sparrow]

@stable fossil do firms ask fpga trivia

[stable fossil]

they ask for transcript

idk

i don’t know any fpga

never got asked

never got asked OS too

when i interviewed i didn’t even take OS or algo design yet

they seem hesitant to match too firm offers too so take the hype w a grain of salt

but the research culture seems cool

and turnover rate from what i’ve seen is chill? plus seems like decent pipeline from QT to QR

honestly end of day the top firms ppl are interested in are prob same level just depends on what type of firm you like what type of work and the team

[lyric loom]

[stable fossil]

LOL

[lyric loom]

MEESTA RACCOON

[stable fossil]

before i go back to perma lurking i don’t think you have to be that cracked to try quant

i went to a public hs got 2.5 GPA first year never took any crazy courses or stuff only started leetcoding 2nd year/3rd like most ppl

[plain lion]

Quant dev, yes maybe
QR interviews is significantly harder to land

[short patio]

I mean yeah but you still have to pass interviews which comes down to just grinding

isn't algo dev @ hrt math

math + lc

or is it different for hrt

are you going quant this summer?

my problem is I feel like I'm resume gapped

and then new grad quant is just yL

an L

nobody says u have to big boy

only you would say quant is easy

[lyric loom]

EL SHARD

EL SHARDD

[runic grotto]

What would you say composes “everything else”

[short patio]

deepmind etc

[runic grotto]

Ah

[thorny gate]

open ai

[short patio]

@stable fossil let me dm u

[spark bay]

I’m not getting any leads for SWE roles, it’s just too hard

so I’m joining y’all now

[short patio]

oh yeah quant is basically the swe equivalent of flipping burgers, no skill no barrier to entry

[spark bay]

I heard it should be a lot easier

[lost leaf]

this one probably isnt too bad with a phd

peak redemption arc

with how cracked you are as a soph you could easily land a top phd

cope harder

there are many more slots than stanford 10x icml ug that also happen to want to go into a phd program and not the $600k qr job

probably 5

i see way more 5 than 4 but the length really isnt the main focus

nowhere

that was my point

people overhype the amount of people that actually have that

its like 2 people

there was a guy at cornell with like 4x fname top conf nlp that got in everywhere and if you check that one SoP site there's a few other cracked people

but largely they're few and far in between

[floral locust]

If sid interns at js and talks to someone from a state school would he spit on them?

[lost leaf]

luck can mitigate that + you already have started. bro has csail

you overestimate how competitive everything is if you can get someone to notice you

the answer is just get better

its just time management

[floral locust]

Sleep is more fun than irl

[spark bay]

I met some quants from some school called Baruch

I searched it up bruh that schools not even nationally ranked

[floral locust]

“Some school”

[lyric loom]

“Some school”

[lost leaf]

tsinghua immigration mfe

[floral locust]

No that’s uchicago

[rose holly]

they go crazy in trading comps

[floral locust]

Trading comps have no signal

[lost leaf]

cope

let the man sleep the correct duration of time.

[lyric loom]

🤝

[floral locust]

Optimize for cabin in woods

[rose holly]

signal for what?

[lost leaf]

thats probably fine if you hate weekends anyways

research schedules are pretty flexible as long as you communicate

[floral locust]

Academia doesn’t care about any industry exp

So yea doing both seems reasonable to keep options open

[lost leaf]

big tech industry research roles requires phd

probably just keeping door open for academia/phd

but its also just cool

which lab doesnt require phd?

can u link? i want to see their profiles

i know deepmind and google had a few research eng -> rs

but ive never heard meta

[floral locust]

Don’t do it

Don’t fuel gozers copium

[lost leaf]

im not planning on doing research out of ug

lol

im gonna be infosys it helpdesk

[tulip sapphire]

ik some from my school

i can send later in DMs if u want

[lost leaf]

ye please do

[cyan sparrow]

Why would radix be next to that shoe muncher @lyric loom

Yakhuna?😹😹

He’s cracked at roblox minigames

[lost leaf]

the zuck will have given us one of those die ingame die irl games in anime

magnificent

[obtuse flame]

you can apply optiver swe intern in amsterdam

i got in pipeline

[opaque sable]

yep optiver sponsors, i interviewed there (uk citizen)

[long raft]

As far as I know only for Amsterdam. All the other offices they do not sponsor.

[opaque sable]

hm interesting

[long raft]

Dont quote me on that maybe they changed it but I once heard at an event that they said we sponsor only for AMS

https://optiver.com/working-at-optiver/career-opportunities/6597743002/

Sydney

An Australian or New Zealand Citizen, Australian Permanent Resident or able to provide evidence of full working rights

Austin

Legal authorization to work in the U.S. is required. We will not sponsor individuals for employment authorization for this job opening

[dapper iris]

tuff day…

[scenic bison]

probably depends a bit on where at id say

[short patio]

Doesn’t matter much

Either is fine

[cloud spear]

any of y'all have experience doing quant work in python?

just curious if quants only hire for cpp, or if there are some fine with python

[long raft]

Hahaha this cant be real. Do you have a link? 😂

[cloud spear]

huh ok might focus on that

doing a bunch of finance work in python rn

i was thinking of dev

ig I could try to transition to trader eventually

[quasi orbit]

https://www.teamblind.com/post/What-does-Jane-Street-look-for-Ba0O5bS0

[broken thorn]

second paragraph hit me like a truck

[quasi orbit]

oh yeah js reaches out to you if you icpc

but icpc rep has gone downhill a lot

its just not as good as it used to be

(this is what i heard from someone who did icpc in the past)

[rose holly]

What does a typical quant trading interview look like

[final forge]

lognormal isn't real
smh

[rose holly]

Man’s advertising his own book

[floral locust]

Atm doesn’t matter and wings nothing will work

Lol

[final forge]

damn prob true, I wonder if the distortion actually matters in the middle/if it would put you substantively out of line with the market? or I guess you'd just tweak your vol curve and call it a day, not like it's flat anyway..

I'd assume lognormal is the standard but honestly idk val stuff v much at all

[obtuse flame]

Apparently that guy was that good

Wtf did he do I’m curious

[short patio]

All sid does is LinkedIn stalk and daydream about what he could’ve got for a summer internship

Sid drop ur LinkedIn tbh

That doesn’t even look real, or if it is, guy is weird

flexing HRT return offer kek

Who says they aren’t 😎

[obtuse flame]

prob a diff program, they also had a crypto winter internship

[obtuse flame]

it shows his abilities so its good

[obtuse flame]

imagine not having sid's linkedin

[short patio]

Found Sid

Why tf do we have Mughals

Mutuals

This kid must’ve been on A2C back in the day

[quasi orbit]

what his linkedin?

[rose holly]

hrt = hostage rescue team?

[long raft]

Ansatz has internships? 😅

[topaz juniper]

Is HRT still doing interviews for Algo Dev?

[raw glen]

offer details ?

[lost leaf]

i didnt even notice frobenius trading holy shit

[neat junco]

this might be called pip

[broken thorn]

wait thats sick

i want to work for them

if their motto has anything to do with method of frobenius i want to work there

diffeq equivalent of using a nuclear bomb to move a rock

[lost leaf]

dawg aint no way frobenius a real guy

who names their kid frobnicus

[limpid nacelle]

Yes and I'm sick of it. There are many python quant shops

Pandas is such an L ngl

[short patio]

I'd pick best culture/vibe then

[pearl spade]

i could read these company names out loud from a drunkard and I wouldnt bat an eye

wtf is Toeplitz LP sounds like a Feetfinder clone

[royal forge]

Baoh S tier troll yet again

[pearl spade]

Rayleigh Investments sounds more whiter than Mormon Cults in Utah

[copper kiln]

here

[royal forge]

Check out this post! "Citadel Securities for single parent of 3 kids (Software Engineering Career)"
https://us.teamblind.com/s/Eq5eco2O

One of the funniest comments

[pure kettle]

Galois as in the crypto firm?

[half apex]

Automation
Back end
Cloud/Microservices
DevOps
Embedded systems
Firmware
Front end
Full Stack
Networking
Systems

i'm trying to pick a dept for my internship this summer and these are the options. my concentrations are AI and sysarch, and im tryna learn stuff related to the latter. im thinking one of embedded systems, firmware, and systems, but idk which would be the most valuable in terms of preparation for future interviews (stuff like quant swe)

[short patio]

Networking/systems most relevant to quant

[obtuse flame]

front end def most relevant to quant

but yeah full send systems

or networking

[half apex]

networking really? how is it applicable (im new to the field in general)

[cloud spear]

reading this just reminds me

working FT must suck extra

if you have kids

since you get off work, get home

and instead of having free time

you get bothered by kids

[half apex]

court dates for a 16 yo

😄

[obtuse flame]

not sure how you think it's a troll post from this and idt it's right to joke about these things

[floral locust]

Send them to the farms like under Mao

[broken thorn]

what do you mean i cant eat clay

[short patio]

Lot of networking required for trading systems in general, I mean it’s all about sending orders to the exchange.Def wouldn’t hurt to have expertise in that area

[quasi orbit]

Didn’t citadel do well this year?

[shadow estuary]

leadership said it wasnt performance based though

[quasi orbit]

IMC hasn’t laid off yet right?

Do you think they will rescind offers

[gentle meadow]

yea imc did but i believe it was QT tho

gg to akuna homies

they got eliminated

[gentle meadow]

unsure

[quasi orbit]

What when was this

[gentle meadow]

like a few week ago

i have friend who works at imc

[quasi orbit]

damn

I heard they doubled their intern class size

[surreal quail]

tc

[barren steeple]

idt they did, it was already pretty big

[weary path]

huh what layoffs?

was this not communicated internally?

[gentle meadow]

yea

unsure

I just know from a friend

[leaden temple]

whats better

[floral locust]

If u don’t have a nice backpack go for backpack, otherwise away bag

[lost leaf]

they fire you if you take the cheaper item

hes mowing a really big lawn