quants-n-traders

[weary path]

are u a mathematician or what does n3 stand for

[broken thorn]

ur not single, you have js AND citadel

but no 😭

[weary path]

😂😂

[broken thorn]

the bag is eternal

[weary path]

recently single or been a while?

[broken thorn]

@weary path

[weary path]

i couldnt tell if it was recent or not from that unfortunately

i see, December breakups are harsh

sucks man, but dw time heals 💪🏾

😂wait how do you have 4 jobs, at once?

[long raft]

All their job listings have only cpp mentioned 😰

Hahahah reminds me of this

[devout spruce]

has any1 done the valkyrie trading oa for quant research (intern)?

[scenic bison]

i think they ask meds for the first round

someone ik got 2 popular meds off b75

i think all the random os/sys des stuff comes in at the final

lmaoo nah im sure youre fine it feels intimidating since you havent lced in awhile but itll probably come back fast

gl king

[pearl spade]

yea pay isnt god tier but not like belvedere/wolverine tier

ive seen senior offers on blind for like 500-600

[weary path]

i used to listen to this once a day. most funny thing on this planet

[final forge]

based on levels no. and frankly this industry isn’t worth it for near big tech pay unless you have a hard on for trading and painful cpp

alcoholism and self harm are technically experiences

[broken thorn]

radix simp is the messenger from the real world in platos allegory of the cabe

[summer stratus]

might as well use matlab too

[long raft]

Idk R feels more fluent to me.

[pearl spade]

what firm we talking abt lol

absolutely not

wolverine used to be 120 they raised it to 150

belvedered like high 170-200 ive seen returns get a bit above 200

swe for reference

200 is where u start debating big tech vs trading and most choose the former

[hasty hill]

I wish i had em and tbh im not advocating rust especially if u wanna target quant. I have zero quant experience myself. I would believe dracos that if it’s a specialist firm then at that point it’s cpp or bust

But honestly anybody who’s used rust would have faith in a skilled rust dev picking up any specialized cpp job at quant

And hence my bold claim it’s a 2nd place language for this niche

As in, given N candidates with equal systems experience, rust dev is still strong 2nd tier contender with all else a far 3rd tier below

Maybe once ur hiring for senior engineer then sure u want the best cpp dev and there is simply no room for compromise

[final forge]

^^tbh for the above shit it probably depends so much on firm/interviewer/HM it’s borderline not worth thinking too much about. I don’t personally know rust, but honestly I can’t imagine my code base making any sense in rust. Lots of template stuff strikes me as probably c++ idiosyncratic. I also hate it

Like my interviewers didn’t care much that I mostly knew C, but I’m p sure my current boss would have failed me in the interviews for lacking C++ knowledge/experience.

[long raft]

I have a strong background in java and I am slowly moving to cpp. The coolest concept to me is templates. I wish other languages had templates.

[broken thorn]

isnt rust strictly better c++?

why would a code base not make sense in rust

[short patio]

because there is an entire infrastructure already built in c++

they're not gonna refactor the entire codebase into rust

[final forge]

no you don’t

[pearl spade]

its not 2 meds in 1

cit is FFA or if they ask LC its usually 1 med/1 common hard with followups

[pearl spade]

if trading firms started from scratch I wouldnt be surprised if a good amt used rust

however ur dealing with heavy leagacy code from the late 1900's from when these firms were founded which is a pain in the ass to deal with and most firms just choose to go with the flow with cpp instead of converting everything or some parts to rust

the reason that fb was even able to use rust was bc the person there was able to convince higher ups that the time it took to convert important systems from python/c/cpp sometimes to rust was worth it long term

free for all

could get asked anything

i really hope u submitted a vague resume to the final round recruiter lol

bc thats what interviewers look at before teh rounds

[scenic bison]

b75 hards

like median from sorted array

[barren steeple]

what type of database questions are common

they split it into 2 day snow

b trees?

idek what that is lol

when cit asks like os ranodm stuff like that is it typically like trivia

or like actually doing osmething with it

but normally os/sysdesign and random stuff is just talking and trivia right

[final forge]

cit mfers ask whatever the hell they damn well please lol

don't remember the questions, 2 were coding, 1 was talking about exp and a sys design (for me @ cit)

one was a basic med, I don't remember what the other one was

yea I choked on cit sys design p sure that was the L lol

[floral locust]

It’s fine we’re working on cooler stuff now

[lime hedge]

what was the original qustion statement?

[floral locust]

No

Wtf

The og gangs here

Wot

I got all my furniture built finally

I paid someone to build it while I was in the office

Some of it is ikea

[hasty hill]

lol yahkub saying he not ugly is exaggeration

bro is most handsome guy on server

[floral locust]

I didn’t have to build my chair

[hasty hill]

@half ginkgo_yahkerson_at_cheeseschoolXXX

[floral locust]

It came assembled

On Sunday

No steelcase something

[lyric loom]

SO U DONT RESPOND TO MY DMS BUT U TYPE HERE

[floral locust]

Yea

[lyric loom]

@half ginkgo

No one cares about u

Good

bad word

[hasty hill]

if anybody leaves this server as a victim of @lyric loom let me know

so i can ban him

@rose holly dont give in to bullies

yahkuna is a bully

think about how bad his life is

he's just taking it out on you

[fast gazelle]

@lyric loom hi 👋

[rose holly]

@lyric loom hi 👋

[cyan sparrow]

@lyric loom hi 👋

[rapid cargo]

@lyric loom hi 👋

[weary path]

@lyric loom hi 👋

[long raft]

@lyric loom hi 👋

[nocturne estuary]

@lyric loom hi 👋

[grim swallow]

@lyric loom hi 👋

Would anyone be able to point me towards discussions here about how to prepare for quant interviews? I've searched around but threads are scattered and don't go into much detail. Also, how is WLB? (I'm new to CS and interested in quant)

[nocturne estuary]

Pinned

Would be a good place to start

[grim swallow]

Woah, how did I not see this 🙃 Thanks!

[short patio]

Eh they’re also working more

At least 40

If not more

[tulip tinsel]

45+ probably

45-55 is probably a reasonable range with some outliers

The 2nd part is definitely true

It’s really efficient hours

[final forge]

I work 20% more hours and have 10% the output

At least in raw LOC terms, which is a terrible metric.

Honestly I’d just say it’s hard to make generalizations besides you probably will be working more than big tech swe.

[thorny gate]

how do you get to this running circles level

[final forge]

Not for me, maybe I’m not reputable enough.

[barren steeple]

i mean average big tech swe at good wlb companies works around 30 hours , where half of it is filled wirh meetings being off task

in quant im assuming mostly real work for atleast 50 hrs

[void anvil]

Shhh we dont like evidence here

[hasty hill]

Not worth generalizing imo. It really scales up with experience. Any sr swe worth their salt is only throttled by red tape

[obtuse flame]

For entry to mid level it seems on average the amount of work you do at a trading firm is ~2x compared to big tech jobs that work 30-35 hours

Hours aren’t a good metric since on average trading firm SWEs are more capable than big tech SWEs (entry level)

[weary path]

What SWE actually works 30h a week. No way thats realistic right?

[broken thorn]

ye thats way too high to actually code 30 hrs a week

unless ur wpm is 4

[weary path]

Find it hard to believe that SWE are working 50% less than researchers at two sigma, especially considering 6h wouldn't even realistically cover the market times.

[weary path]

40-45 for swe according to blind.

[tulip tinsel]

I’d say median output = Facebook GE level

[tulip tinsel]

Work with no breaks and be efficient lol

It’s not that nice

It’s pretty draining

[tulip tinsel]

Yes even at some undisclosed trading firm

[rose holly]

Market time matters for some teams i think, didnt really matter for mine

[tulip tinsel]

No set times but expectations are fairly high

[rose holly]

What about at aquatic

Mr godbolt

My manager was just like hours don’t matter if you get your work done at a good pace

I was probably in the office 6-6.5 hours a day

But time spent actually being productive probably less

[obtuse flame]

Yeah in tech it’s common to slack off 1 hour a day talking to teammates about random stuff

[rose holly]

Cfed

@solar axle

[weary path]

damn.. were you a ft swe? if not was it the same for the ft guys

[hasty hill]

10am to 4pm in office is somewhat common yeah

Not me but i see it

[tulip tinsel]

Cope

[hasty hill]

for the record i can agree with this, it just makes sense. better compensation, higher bar => better talent

skill floor higher

As far as generalizing the volume of work (output AND input i.e. hours worked), I don't feel great generalizing either field: quant or big tech

I just wouldn't venture to say there's anything about hft/quant that by nature gets better talent, i do believe in the market simply doing its job and funneling talent where the $ is

[obtuse flame]

same

[scenic bison]

realest message in this server

duality of a cs major

[short patio]

that's any prop shop no

minus like the shitcan ones

[chilly echo]

Roblox pays 450k+ robux first year

[obtuse flame]

Only a few like HRT, JS, Headlands, Cit, Radix

Actually HRT is only 410k with no nego

[short patio]

@atomic briar ah fair, forgot we're talking SWE not QT/QR

like honestly if you're getting paid 300k to be SWE at quant firm like is that worth it?

so much effort for like maybe 50k post tax extra on top of SWE at big tech

worse hours

[floral locust]

The type of work is different

Some people also might prefer a faster feedback loop

[short patio]

I guess more systems level stuff

but if you're like front end

front end is front end

I do like smaller companies agreed

but then again you can always go unicorn or early stage startups

more upside there too for equity

oh no I never said big tech is like <30 hours

but you're generally not expected to put in more than 40

[floral locust]

Idk maybe startups have higher convexity but being a qdev fills a nice niche of having good upside while being achievable and not a tail event

Unless you have lInEaR uTiLiTy fUnCtIoN @rose holly

[short patio]

true. startups are much more risky

[floral locust]

Kelly betting stochastically dominates all other betting strategies in the long run wp 1

Regardless of utility function

.

[dapper iris]

go back to work

[floral locust]

I left liek 30 min ago 😤😤😤

[tulip tinsel]

Peanuts

Hrt is the 2nd worst firm

Worst is akuna

[tulip tinsel]

Wait wya now

[tulip tinsel]

No, a few tech firms can match that for far less work

I’d go for 500+

[floral locust]

Idk

[tulip tinsel]

An hft employee can easily put in <30

Imo

[short patio]

you must be a gigachad coder

[tulip tinsel]

I’m not an hft employee

Still in my moms basement

(Voluntarily)

[thorny gate]

citsec infra is ofc > qd cuz cooler work and equal or better pay

[devout spruce]

yo do u guys think its worth building a low-level / C++ resume, when your experience is just all backend/MLE/DE, like I would be able to land C++ positions when all my experience is python/golang/TS and projects are in c++?

[thorny gate]

i dont think you need much in your resume for C++ to land a C++ role. you just need to pass the C++ interview questions

[thorny gate]

oh rlly how much does qd make y1

i saw citsec infra getting 450-500

[rose holly]

leg day today

push day doesnt count until you get 225

but 225 doesnt count unless the entire world knows

[junior dew]

why'd you @ me

[rose holly]

Idk

[junior dew]

coup?

[rose holly]

love letter?

[junior dew]

down

[rose holly]

@naive dune

[naive dune]

@naive dune is currently on a social media detox - hasbi bot

[scenic bison]

@naive dune

[naive dune]

@naive dune is currently on a social media detox - hasbi bot

[weary path]

no this not true, unless you are talking about not well known hfts. There idk

[tulip tinsel]

At fang? To meet expectations?

I don’t see why not

In the general case at least

[weary path]

ah my bad i misunderstood. So you are saying HFT SWE could just put <30 in faang to meet expectations.
fair here i cant say anything 🙂

[tulip tinsel]

Yeah ~30, more if there are a lot of mandatory meetings, or if there is a lot of fire fighting

[naive dune]

@naive dune is currently on a social media detox - hasbi bot

[chrome yarrow]

Anyone know of any internship opportunities for this summer for quant trading?

[short patio]

🫡

[short patio]

I think it’s marbles innit

So you can’t put a number on it

Dunno man I don’t work at opt over

But isn’t that their bonus structure?

@jolly gate you should talk to Optiver kids you know

[broken thorn]

how do you wield acronyms so well

[short patio]

dae know optiver qt ng fy chicago tc? @broken thorn

fixed that for you

[broken thorn]

opt qt ng fu chc tc

[short patio]

oqnfct

[broken thorn]

new goal: maximize entropy per character

new gol: max entr/chr

[solar axle]

what do the 350 questions consist of? blind 75, neetcode 150, grind 75?

[short patio]

nobody needs to do 350 tbh

[hasty hill]

It should be listed in the sheet but yeah those + sean prashad + lc top interview questions + ones i thought of

[hasty hill]

I agree for sure. I had made that sheet for uber grinders or as a one stop shop to record keep and find all problems

Plus cross reference if a problem is popular across collections

[solar axle]

basically everything here right?^

i see thanks

[kindred kelp]

joining

[floral locust]

400

[solar axle]

which is more up to date, leetcode tagged or the bot u guys have on this server?

[pearl spade]

are u the trameski

[solar axle]

kk

[rose holly]

@solar axle

why are you a bandwagon

not even from new england trying to act like a pats fan

[fast gazelle]

what quant firms pay good money

most of the ones I find seem to only pay in the 6 figure range

[rose holly]

@golden wadi

@shy mirage

[fast gazelle]

@lyric loom

[rose holly]

acai securities

[short patio]

The one that you found in ur dorm basement

And TGS

[shy mirage]

@everyone

[lost stratus]

cit 7 fig

How many people on earth actually try to

[dapper iris]

p sure this is just fake

like 90@95

[lost stratus]

Do you think its also not possible or do you think its possible with someone of that backround to get such an offer

Since they worked front office at a BB too

[gaunt summit]

how was it

[broken thorn]

i love that we know its fake from the 600k offer being too high instead of the 1.1m offer

[dapper iris]

both kind of but i know for sure because yeah some of the offer details just aren’t possible moreso than that the tc isn’t possible

don’t think they are standard for the (few) experienced hires right?

[short patio]

Probability of a given B 🤓

No such thing tho, it’s flat and based on who has expertise in an area or who makes the firm more money

Really depends on PnL surely

There’s a reason average age at firms is mid-high 20s

You either survive long enough to retire or get fired before then

[hasty hill]

It’s my offers but i turned it down

[lost stratus]

I was asking if it was possible with only that specific backround, i think that person had 1 year at tech and 1.5 at a BB i think it might have been front office related

Why does that matter

[short patio]

No clue I’m not a quant, I think at minimum garden leavenpay right

Bc they have you on a non compete

Hmm, in any case you’d probably not wanna be fired

Best to just stay for a couple years and get out

Retire or do angel or whatever

Swe if you want

[lost stratus]

What

Is that a joke

[hasty hill]

Stop being salty lol i spent 30 sec scrolling to see context and this started as a meme somebody saying 6 fig too low for quant. Radix simp posts figures. Somebody calls cap. Radix says “ok it’s probably not new grad my b”

He answered a question

Missed a social cue if u wanna call it that

Wasnt being edgy or anything like that

[barren steeple]

ricky

[hasty hill]

If anything the above might still be cap but who cares (alright apparently it is, but radix never knowingly spread disinformation)

This is so useless. Nobody likes platitudes

[barren steeple]

ricky agrees

[short patio]

Rentech doesn’t pay you

Your TC is only your returns from the medallion fund

8 figures easy

You’d be bald from the stress

[hasty hill]

@lost stratus best thing you can do now is ack the false figures btw or give disclaimer. Also the above is 2.5yoe so i doubt most people here could verify this

Look idk what they do in other servers but here they are being held accountable and that’s what happened. What’s the problem? You’re disillusioned about some number?

@bleak osprey dont have time to deal with you, banning

[short patio]

What the Fuck is the drama here I’m confused

[lost stratus]

The picture states "2.5 yoe"

[hasty hill]

You and i read things differently and that’s ok. I consider language like aperture’s accusatory and confrontational. I dont like to see it and i dont have to give warnings. I also allow reasonable discussion and understanding. Radix is not harming discourse here and he contributes. What do you contribute except unsubstantiated opinions?

If you’re mad just leave then lol but go off man it’s all good

I wont’ read it but please be my guest

[lost stratus]

The highest possible number i have ever said for new grad was 900k for qr at some random firm which i also said i was probably not true and through word of mouth only

[short patio]

Bet you rentech pays more

Bro really changed slow mode to 5 min LMAOOOOO

[hasty hill]

Ok i’ll ban lol

Waiting 5 min for you to ack in the interest of free speech btw 👍

[short patio]

Tl;dr discord janny gets mad bc I don’t even know

[hasty hill]

The day more users call to have radix simp banned i will be open to hearing them out. Or anyone. To be 100% clear i’m banning you and aperture for aperture’s insult to radix (calling his knowledge encyclopedic) and for you being so unreasonable and playing some victim card for what was some random’s wrong information who wasnt aggressive about it and acknowledged it. If you dont’t make this place a healthier atmosphere that’s when I ban. And as always if anybody has a problem with how I mod you can call me out or DM. Feel free to get more advocates or fellow mods to help your cause if you like, I don’t mind. This channel is frequently problematic and yes I am convinced that users like you contribute more to that than Radix. If Radix is problematic as well, all it takes is a few of you to let me know with good reasons and I will do the same and ban.

EDIT: i dont care if aperture is or isnt a quant btw lol

[short patio]

Dawg it ain’t that deep

I mean you’re banning people for calling out bullshit, I mean their phrasing could be better but it’s not inherently toxic it’s just calling a spade a spade

[hasty hill]

This is unhelpful but ok.

[opaque sable]

[hasty hill]

Look @atomic briar i’m going to sincerely apologize to you because you’re making an effort to explain and give context and i shouldnt have called you a troublesome user. I didnt like your attitude but I’m being too trigger happy with you at least. Let’s agree to disagree and just help us all keep the peace. I wont have more to say on this and wont ban you. Aperture’s ban stays.

[final forge]

All I will say is that this channel is more often problematic than it isn’t.

And one of the reasons is dick riding of insane TC which is sometimes crazy tail and sometimes entirely imaginary. Often from people with little to no knowledge of the space. Just leads to people showing up going omg I heard that I can earn 6-7 figures with one easy trick. Or here is my hot take on an industry I have 0 personal knowledge about based on something that someone else said who heard it said by someone else.

[hasty hill]

It really doesnt?

Aperture apparently joined recently. Idk what this longstanding legacy or credentials is with them, and it’s fine. You can dm him if he’s so valuable lol. But i dont like seeing somebody so dismissive the way he was. It adds to the shit vibes here

[pearl spade]

yea fully agreed on ur 2nd statement ; i personally dont see it a lot here but i see it soo much on r/csmajors

[final forge]

Wym 450k is peasant obviously everyone here makes 500+

[hasty hill]

That’s so completely different from people asking if X amount of tc is a thing lol. Why are you projecting this insane neuroticism to this channel? If you guys spend all day here sure I guess

And if more of you think aperture shouldnt be banned sure just say so. They prob wont come back but my initial impressions is that his tone is unwelcome here

[pearl spade]

idk why you would ban aperature but not the (-(-( guy ; former gives advice and is in the industry

[final forge]

I’m not gonna lie I had the wrong impression about what is actually common in the industry when I read this chat before I actually started working in the industry and I think it’s harmful ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[short patio]

Nobody cares about tone they care about if someone is being a bozo or not, which he wasn’t

[rose holly]

@hasty hill i got bullied out of the server by @lyric loom ban him

[short patio]

If someone is being helpful but blunt I appreciate that much more than polite and being a bozo

[lost stratus]

Theres nothing wrong with trying to know what the tail ends of quant TC are

I never said anyone has to get 600-1m TC

[pearl spade]

whens the man getting unbanned

[short patio]

you can make more than a million if your PnL is crazy

you can also make 0 bonus and make 200K

fuck it man if you're in for the money go make a startup

you'll never be a billionaire from quant

unless you're founding rentech

if I make 100% on every trade I make

[opaque sable]

not with that attitude, get the 1.1mil offer and thats just 1000 years of work

[short patio]

I only need to make like 20 trades to become a billionaire

🤔

have I figured out stonks

he's not

[hasty hill]

@stark crow Feel free to re-evaluate the Aperture ban in light of my recent announcement. I accept responsibility if there is any lol. Please keep this place healthy in my absence. This goes for the whole server but this place especially.

[lost leaf]

aperture is a tenured student

40 years young

still strange decision to straight up ban one of the only people who could even chase one of said tail end outcomes he was criticizing someone of focusing too much on

this is peak cope

26 in the soul 50 years in the spine

[whole echo]

@rose holly

[obtuse flame]

Being qualified should be irrelevant to being banned

[broken thorn]

imo it should be a factor

at the end of the day someone especially knowledgeable about cs careers is probably a good inclusion in cscareers.dev

^^^

it should be relevant to being banned

i tbink i deserve an interview at a company

how many oas must i pass 😭

[rapid cargo]

this dude 😂

there's a pinned list of firms you can check out and look them up on levels

o

[broken thorn]

i appreciate your humor :)

[obtuse flame]

So if someone knows their stuff they can just be a dick? We’re not a quant firm lmao

In the end the goal is to have a friendly/supportive environment

[reef marsh]

Wiener

[floral locust]

Cope

[lost leaf]

senile old man is typing

[short patio]

aren't you a fake

no u the real one

wowzers

[floral wyvern]

it's the real aperture btw

🙂

[lost leaf]

qr without research?

[broken thorn]

q

qt mega firm dependent innit

[short patio]

they take like what, <1 person a year on avg?

must be cracked outta your goddamn mind to get that

[short patio]

so

tgs is easy no

all you need is virtu -> hrt algo dev -> tgs

ez pz

https://www.linkedin.com/in/bo-liu-05037b31/

all I need is phd from harv

bing chilling 🥶

[quasi orbit]

I just want to be tgs recruiter

[short patio]

how much you think they pay recruiter

300k tc?

higher?

feel like hrt is more just have you crammed the content, moonshot you probably need something specific they're lookign for

dawg the firm is <50 people

they're very secretive

tgs apparently

who knows why

[short patio]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-quants-run-wall-street-now-1495389108

[floral locust]

Catch a stray for no reason lmao

[short patio]

I mean realistically it's easier to get into sig vs other firms

[floral locust]

Ik

[short patio]

this is all for qr/qt?

[floral locust]

They just fire a lot

[short patio]

cut 30% or keep 30%

either one is pretty rough

any point in trying for qr/qt if I have only swe background

or just give up and go swe @ quant

I've been told to just go swe

don't think I have the interviewing chops for like hrt algo dev or anything

haven't done quant recruiting before

and next year is new grad 💀

[worn geode]

why do people even care abt tgs

their headcount is nonexistent

[short patio]

mystery breeds interest

wait, where you are rn?

[floral locust]

They’re all tgs lol

[short patio]

?

[floral locust]

Aka unemployed

[short patio]

oi bro go eat

buy some uber eats with that quant money

[worn geode]

wtf why is there so much overlap here w/ ccsm

[short patio]

you can wipe ur ass with $100 bills who cares

it is a waste tho

i cook for myself

[floral locust]

He’s a broke student

[final forge]

I don’t even know what this is

[worn geode]

csm

cs majors discord

[final forge]

o

[short patio]

cs majors discord is a ripoff of this one

or is it vice versa

literally all channel names are copied etc

[worn geode]

i just joined so idk

but csmajors became too much of a circle wank on quant for my taste

if you so much as hinted you worked at a quant firm half the server instantly orgasms and you instantly have a horde of groupies pinging you and slamming your DMs

[short patio]

people are fucking delusional

there are people on reddit with like no relevant background asking "how can I break into quant" like it's getting a job at mcdonalds

[floral locust]

McDonald’s resume rejected me in hs

[short patio]

mcdonalds swe pays more than defense

forget faang it's bmw

burger king, mcdonald's, wendy's

check pinned

but tl;dr, a shitload of statistical math, leetcode, coding in general, logic problems/brainteasers

[worn geode]

i think its fine to ask, but some people just dont know how to google the most basic ass questions istg

[short patio]

yeah it's kinda rigged if you go to shit tier school

have no friends to prep quant w/ or share answers with

[worn geode]

LMAO

the SIG kids go harrrrrrrrrrd

[short patio]

i can't even make it into quant bruh

my school

has like 2 guys at sig

nobody anywhere fucking else

[broken thorn]

minju im pretty sure you make them all loud and clear

[worn geode]

me wishing i got into stanny bro 😭

[short patio]

the only person in my grade who even tried quant only got a SWE round at JS

that's called "networking"

[worn geode]

every VC under the sun creams themselves the second they see you go to stanny

[short patio]

but alas doesn't happen when nobody does quant at ur school

it's fine

i'll just go swe at tech

idk if quant is for me

swe @ hrt or one of those places doesn't sound terrible, from what I've heard tho

whh

why*

hmm

comp is higher, always have tech as exit opps, work might be more interesting / sharper coworkers

[broken thorn]

poker buddies too

[short patio]

you mean equity?

[worn geode]

your definition of a "tech swe" is probably far sweatier than the avg swe @ G

[short patio]

equity is a gamble

[worn geode]

series A @ watershed type beat

[short patio]

LMAO

scale ai employee #2 swe

[floral locust]

Does pltr have remote?

[worn geode]

is scale not just a massive datalabeling service

[short patio]

only fdse

/s

[worn geode]

like the only reason they deserve their valuation is locking in us govt contracts, not any tech new development

bro you simp too hard for logos 😭

i have seen you want to go to a company just to collect logos probably on a half dozen occasions now

[short patio]

eh like most swes FY comp caps out at 250K, quant firms go much higher than that

worst comes to worst just go back to tech

[floral locust]

Isn’t grinding meta ladder also p good?

Like can’t u get promoted grinding those ge’s

[short patio]

e3 -> director 10 yr speedrun

or just make ur own scale ai

then TC = billions

[worn geode]

diff skillsets based on my limited knowledge

[short patio]

not necessarily, you need much more personality for management

[worn geode]

dir @ meta isnt sweaty swe work and technical chops but actual team management skills

not comparable

wtf gif flushed emoji

ccurshed

cursed

[short patio]

To be fair, at some of these firms there is a clear divide between swe and trader

My friend said sig used to, less so these days

[worn geode]

as loaded as it is, if its true, shouldn't ppl looking to break into swe at quant have a right to know how poorly some firms treat their swes?

[broken thorn]

counerpoint: easier to go
:( i less cool than my trader friend
than
:) i am better off than amazon l5 interbal promo

[floral locust]

Wut does this even mean lol

[final forge]

go bully your local swes and take their lunch money

[broken thorn]

if ur talking to me

people think in relative terms compared to those around them much more than they do terms of random people theyve never met imo (this doesnt apply if there is one way communication such as celebrities sharing their lifestyle tho)

if im the dumbest friend it doesnt matter if im smarter than most people, i will think i am dumb

[final forge]

comparison is the thief of joy. don't be happy that you're better than X. just be happy

[broken thorn]

easier said than done

if my joy is that fickle then i dont want it anyway

i am borrowing against my mental health

[final forge]

I am not yet happy I just don't think deriving happiness from thinking you're better than other people is a good path forward

[broken thorn]

oh for sure

its a great motivator tho if u value success above everything else includign wellbeing

[broken thorn]

i wish u best of luckk in your jouney of being hapy

[final forge]

thanks I'll need it

[junior mirage]

u forgive u

[short patio]

Waymo isn’t quant foh

[rose holly]

Bro m the randos on here don’t know what they’re talking about dont respond to them lol

[whole echo]

IMO career grinding is a good cope and place to put your energy if you have nothing to live for

[whole echo]

Thinking in relative terms is important because you want to make the most of your ability

[whole echo]

HAHA couldn't be me haha yeah

[broken thorn]

its deleted do u have the original

[short patio]

Bro can’t talk to girls it’s not an interesting read

Doesn’t even work

You need reveddit

[rose holly]

its more that you dont know what youre talking about yet you try to share information with others

what are you basing your statements off of?

because they are incorrect

so I would like to know why you believe them

youve worked at a quant firm?

[broken thorn]

minju is on a new game plus run

[rose holly]

and youve talked to headhunters at quant firms who said that

interesting

ive worked at one too and talked to people at others and no ones actually felt the second class citizen thing

are you talking about large quant firms or some of the smaller ones?

cit?

[short patio]

Like sig I’m assuming

Virtu too

[rose holly]

yeah I mean sig definitely has that type of culture

but most of them dont

sig and cit are the main ones ive heard of that are like that

idk my main problem is that you stated it as if all quant firms have swes as second-class citizens which just isnt true

its a pretty small subset that youre acting like is everyone

[floral wyvern]

yo

[rose holly]

yo

[floral wyvern]

how is everyone doin

chillin

[short patio]

He rode from the dead

[rose holly]

yeah thats what i clarified later

obviously it is a thing at some firms and some teams

yeah I think cit is also team dependent

sig I have definitely heard it for

probably the main one where i hear it

siggis is usually pretty full

you should sue

[short patio]

good cheese > mediocre sex

no cap

[fair yew]

Anyone knows what HRT asks for ft ng swe interviewes?

[storm ember]

oh yeah that cheese is good

[fair yew]

wdym? in terms of what.

[solemn talon]

search reddit and blind

[storm ember]

i loot it from a local art gallery whenever they have their bougie art opening parties

then make mac n cheese with it

Oh dang. that's awesome

[fair yew]

not a lot of info there

[solemn talon]

from what I've heard, LC med-hard and some OS and networking iirc

[fair yew]

I just want to know what they ask in the interviews. If they ask LC/OS, etc.

[short patio]

pretty much all of the above

gotta be top 5 hardest interviews surely

[fair yew]

I honestly wanna know if LC is still relevant for FT interviews.

[short patio]

yes

[final forge]

this is broadly true and people are generally not going to give more specific answers

[short patio]

if you can't crank lc you won't get offer

at minimum for oa stage

you also need to be good with other stuff

lc is bare min

[final forge]

I haven't had a single FT interview without an LC component

[fair yew]

Some of my friends say that some firms don't ask much LC anymore

[short patio]

they'll leak it to their friends

[long raft]

Hahaha I wouldn’t leak because i am scared to screw my relationship with the Company 😂

[short patio]

still hard oas tho

[solemn talon]

What would you say is the hardest part of the interview?

[fair yew]

I mean a lot of firms do JS style interviws which I don't consider as LC

[short patio]

i haven't fucking interviewed there LOL

just hearsay

[final forge]

I haven't gotten a JS interview, wouldn't know exactly what they ask

[short patio]

but apparently the intern interview is brutal, and FT is even more rounds

[fair yew]

I got my offer with only LC medium in about 4 rounds of interviews

[long raft]

Welcome to the club 🥲

[final forge]

that's LC idk what your point is

[solemn talon]

Ok, when you guys say JS, you mean jane street right and not javascript? 😂

[fair yew]

of course lmao

[short patio]

so are you apparently

it's spelled illiterate

[long raft]

I like those “other firms” interviews. Like I tend to do way way better on them compared to leetcode 😂

[fair yew]

I don't mean quite literally, I just wanna know how important it is. And that is for an Internship. I can imagine FT interviews being more practical.

[short patio]

no, FT is just more rounds

same kind of stuff I'd imagine

[final forge]

my boss just has higher standards for FT rounds fwiw

[short patio]

oofer

[lost leaf]

should be praying for lc in interviews, its trivial compared to what else they could ask

[short patio]

at this point I'll just take a fucking 5th year to interview for intern

fuck ft

[final forge]

true LC is literally the easiest/most predictable thing they can ask

[fair yew]

Depends. For me it is exact opposite

[lost leaf]

skill issue, get real

[fair yew]

I did much better in non-lc interview

[solemn talon]

Are all you guys from t10 schools? Cuz I can't seem to get any hft interviews

[final forge]

because they asked easier shit rofl

do you know random cpp/os/networking esoterica is way harder to prepare for

[short patio]

I heard the os qs were more practical / design oriented

but trivia is weird

imagine them asking you to explain the bfs scheduler

[lost leaf]

and they asked lc hards

[final forge]

I haven't gotten much on the OS/networking side, but trivia is actually sometimes annoyingly important

[short patio]

you need bare minimum a good resume

[long raft]

But if you are really interested and enjoy this Kind of stuff it’s like talking to a friend about cool stuff 😅

[short patio]

or just ace OAs + referral

[fair yew]

I have a pretty good undestanding of OS. It is just depends on what you know

[solemn talon]

[short patio]

I'm sure you can pass resume screen with faang or whatever

harder to pass interview than resume screen no

do they screen GPA?

@atomic quail

for non target

[solemn talon]

how about amazon internship?

[lost leaf]

your school ranks top 10

[short patio]

LMAOAOOAOAOA

[lost leaf]

lil bro hiding he goes to the jim cramer school of trading

[short patio]

faang or bust pain

@atomic quail the funny thing is I have a swe intern offer at a place I'd rather go to than any faang but it won't help me with resume screen

it's not like scale ai or some shit

just another tech firm

[lost leaf]

isnt akuna resume screen trivial

[short patio]

@solemn talon everybody and their mother has amazon is the problem

[solemn talon]

wow

[short patio]

@atomic quail do referrals help resume screen or no

Apple is very selective fr

[long raft]

Totally off topic but your username reminds me of Photography 😂 @atomic quail

[short patio]

nobody interns there

[lost leaf]

i thought akuna interviewed anyone who did well on the oa

[solemn talon]

true

[lost leaf]

[short patio]

problem is I have mediocre resume from non target so referrals are my best chance

[final forge]

fwiw managed to get a cit interview with just amazon intern

[short patio]

w gaming

[final forge]

but also yea amazon alone did not net many interviews rofl

[short patio]

yeah, I'm assuming resume screen is tougher for swe than qt/qr tho

[lost leaf]

yeah it probably is

[long raft]

Nah

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture

[final forge]

I get the impression it is, idk rationale, just too many swes?

[short patio]

yeah prolly

[solemn talon]

getting cit is still good tho, did you get interviews at other faangs?

[short patio]

equity is good 👍

[lost leaf]

a lot of closed intern programs/reduced hc = people with cracked resumes cant take return offer =

[final forge]

hiring freeze was in place for basically all of them when I was applying so no

[short patio]

what's the interview process for pure SWE for startups though? problem is I have such a low level background

[final forge]

well actually I had stuff lined up pre freeze, so yes? lol

[short patio]

I can crank LC but would rather work on systems or low latency stuff

[lost leaf]

amazon resume value is basically 0 ( )

[short patio]

and not much opportunity to do that at YC

[final forge]

[short patio]

this is cap, amazon will land you interviews at most tech firms

it's stepping stone

[lost leaf]

[final forge]

my other offers were in networking/storage which seemed good to me

[lost leaf]

dont tell them, i need to be hyper elitist despite being bottom of the barrel 0 crackage

[short patio]

what's the interview process like at these places

[lost leaf]

im not balding yet, projecting

[short patio]

lc + sys design + trivia + what

yeah, I've heard

no sys design?

just like pair programming

monad labs 👀

nah just the company matches my background

a little

not the crypto

the tech stack etc

[lost leaf]

using good and c++ in the same sentence

[final forge]

this is a lie I don't believe good C++ exists

it's a fairy tale made up by big HFT to trick people into the industry

[solemn talon]

any good c++ books to prepare for trivia? I was looking at a tour of C++, is that enough?

[short patio]

you mean specifically faang or any tech

already landed tech

lol nope

TC is good tho

[lost leaf]

https://en.cppreference.com/w/ <- bfs

[short patio]

also, effective modern cpp?

[lost leaf]

is this cope from no ro

[short patio]

nah it's just big

not for everyone

[final forge]

effective modern cpp is v good but also incomplete bc it only covers to c++14 and relatively large changes have been made since then

[short patio]

gigantic bureaucracy

@final forge enlighten me, I am only C monkey

[final forge]

BASED

I was a C monkey and then entered the industry and only have regrets

[short patio]

what's a smart ptr tbh

LMAO yeah

[solemn talon]

Yeah I already did some, made a compiler in C and just made a shell in C/C++ but I still don't know the nitty gritty shit

[short patio]

I need to learn c++

shitco (for him personally) is the ipmlication I'm assuming

[final forge]

automatic reference counting, disappears when it goes out of scope everywhere it can exist, unless you have reference loops, then L

[short patio]

no ik I'm just messing, my background is mostly in C

[final forge]

oh ok lmao all good

[short patio]

absolutely take it over amazon

if google is shitco

amazon is like

a shack of shit

[lost leaf]

death > quant > swe

[short patio]

amz over goog? almost everyone I've talked to hated amzn

[final forge]

ur order is all messed
quant < swe < death

[final forge]

based

[short patio]

no, swe -> quant -> death

[lost leaf]

swe too high up

[final forge]

wait misread ur not based

[solemn talon]

tbh, most of the people I've talked to have enjoyed their internships

[short patio]

that's good, maybe it's bc they were put onto teams they didn't like

[final forge]

ok ok let me revise

trading swe < tech swe < quant < death

[short patio]

really team dependent

[fair yew]

Reading a book and applying concepts to projects is the best way. try working on something more complex and put in effort to use more modern cpp concepts in it. Also working on open source projects is good, but pretty hard.

[short patio]

probably also team dep tho

[lost leaf]

based

put research swe below all that

[short patio]

@final forge what advice do you have for someone who is proficient in C but wants to learn cpp

like idk what to even build in c++

nah bro

quant

[final forge]

yea gonna be real I just read books and did problems to prep for trading interviews. I just YOLO'd my way into a mid firm

not a great way to actually learn cpp, it's an OK way to pass not super strict interviewers

[short patio]

bro is 30

[short patio]

tc check?

[lost leaf]

maybe 10 years ago

[final forge]

(200,300)

[short patio]

at that point I'd rather just do swe at tech

[final forge]

correct

[short patio]

like sure if I can write some cpp at hrt for 450k

[final forge]

I've made mistakes

[short patio]

cool

[short patio]

at least u have good exit opps

just go interview at hrt in 3 years or some shit

[final forge]

whenever my bonuses vest I'll be interviewing at tech or higher comp trading yea

[short patio]

like template code or just fucking around to see what the compiler optimizes away?

[final forge]

yes

[short patio]

sometimes I do that for C

for funsies

[final forge]

^^

[short patio]

undefined behavior cool

[final forge]

its ok I hate myself less than I did when I first started

I polish knives now

[short patio]

bro happiness does not come from tc

that's the problem

you can chase money sure

money good

[final forge]

no the hatred was from the work being crap not from the tc lol

[short patio]

LMAOOOOO

fair enough

[fair yew]

What I did was start with some projects (eg: smtp server, bitorrent client). Once I got more comfortable with the language I started looking into some open source stuff.

[short patio]

those worth putting on resume?

[fair yew]

bittorrent is pretty complex so yeah. smtp not so much.

[short patio]

I was gonna try to write a DEFLATE compressor/decompressor

but that shit is fucking complex

and also the reference impls are in c

[final forge]

tech friends make similar tc and are happier/their work is less painful. maybe I exaggerate my self loathing a little too much, I'm doing better now. gonna use my big boy bucks to buy materials to polish knives with

[lost leaf]

quit and do a pure math phd

let the demons win

go to your cabin

it's where you truly belong

[final forge]

think about all the impactful research I can do with a math phd

[lost leaf]

the walls at every research place ive been to are whiteboards anyways so unironically probably the move

true

[final forge]

shit oops gonna get doxxed

[lost leaf]

looks sharp enough to end my misery

https://tenor.com/view/agiota-bob-esponja-gif-25145823

[final forge]

I also got a sick whale knife I’m working on

[lost leaf]

passion for providing liquidity

[final forge]

It’s all about the whales

Because like 5 companies pay bags

[broken thorn]

vased

[broken thorn]

tfw works for 6th best company

[short patio]

can u elaborate upon your situation

did you interview there?

for summer/fall?

I'm confused

@rose holly

[floral locust]

Does waymo do remote?

[short patio]

thoughts on that one mit quant chick on tiktok?

oh shit minju is her

how did I not realize

[split lintel]

U go to mit?

https://tenor.com/view/toad-mario-kart-mario-kart7-gif-21262576

[short patio]

im just messing

any opinion on her tho

[obtuse flame]

why do you want to start shit lmao

[short patio]

? I've found some of her stuff helpful

just curious what opinions people in quant have

[obtuse flame]

mb the wording is like inviting criticism

[short patio]

what to study / interview prep

qt

incoming @ js

[nocturne estuary]

is this sarah chieng?

[short patio]

wait huh

where is she going

[short patio]

ye

I could've sworn I saw a tiktok where the comment was like "omg ur on the js brochure"

maybe I'm tripping

[nocturne estuary]

yeah good riddance to her

her content is so look at me im special

Oh god really

it's cringe its seeking for self validation everywhere

we are better than that

[lyric loom]

@nocturne estuary so ur just jealous

[nocturne estuary]

not really

[lyric loom]

Yes u are

[nocturne estuary]

i would never get HRT, i don't have the low level CPP knowledge

Regardless, i think her tiktok is just flexy BS

i have no end to the criticisms i can levy

i really don't think it is that

it doesn't matter if she is smart, it doesn't absolve her for the way she acts

[lyric loom]

@nocturne estuary but can u agree quant is full of men

[nocturne estuary]

i agree yes

but i don't think that is her motivation, she was flexing MIT before she got in any good companies

[short patio]

@floral locust didn't you just say she isn't going there

apparently she's the ONLY female trader at js of her class

that must suck

[lyric loom]

yes I would like to (quant)TRADE on this

see what I did there

[short patio]

can you at least explain the situation I'm confused

like, did she renege and go elsewhere or?

only girl trader

I occasionally come across her content on my fyp too

a lot of fluff but some useful stuff

i am very confused

[obtuse flame]

for that year's new grad class, there's def other female traders

[obtuse flame]

career/school related content are all gonna be like that, and if you want to build an online presence you need to bring smth to the table, you're mad for no reason tbh, gonna guess you get mad at linkedin offer acceptance posts too

[short patio]

yes, to be clear, that is what I meant, obviously other women at JS

[obtuse flame]

although the gender ratio is bad for sure LOL

like prob 95/5

[lyric loom]

U DONT HAVE ANY PARTY TO GO TO

STOP THE CAP

@nocturne estuary

u typing ur rebuttel

[hallow shoal]

didn't she reneg OMC for JS right?

[nocturne estuary]

yes

[hallow shoal]

she didn't get return. But that might not have been her fault. It was bad for HRT i think?

From what I remember about her linkedin. She had OMC trader on there a couple months ago. Guess its gone now...

old mission capital

[tulip sapphire]

omc >>> imc tbh

[hallow shoal]

but I don't know if she reneged.

I just remember her posting about OMC a while ago

[nocturne estuary]

no, we can be tactful about how we display ourselves to the world, we should not seek to post on linkedin if it is to show off, we should do it because we want to build a network. what sarah is doing is far from brand building, everything from the startup that she constantly flexes being a founder for to the MIT career fairs to the "look at my life at HRT" screams incredibly attention seeking. yes she worked hard on whatever and yes she is smart, but her social presence is abhorrent. you can write me off as jealous or whatever, i don't care. i have my own achievements and I am self assured enough to not throw them around looking for people to validate me because of it

[lyric loom]

U used chatgpt to write this

[nocturne estuary]

i wish honestly

would have been smarter of me

[obtuse flame]

you're not forced to watch her and what she's doing is not unethical at the slightest, you can feel "yuck" towards it but it's not a valid reason to hate on someone

and ppl derive enjoyment/value out of it

[nocturne estuary]

i can certainly hate on people for it, and no i don't watch her

i don't even have a tiktok

but i have seen enough to draw my conclusions

[obtuse flame]

you can but it's not valid imo lol

you do you

[nocturne estuary]

it depends on the kind i suppose

many people come to these servers to flex and whatever and i look down on them for it for sure

i come here to shitpost when im bored

[short patio]

Only trader of her class year I meant

[short patio]

Of her year

[lyric loom]

yea because Im there too

[short patio]

Jesus I need to clarify that

You mean specifically QT? Or in general

She said only trader, im@sure there are swe

Or she’s just lying for flout

Clout

🤷‍♀️

Guess she’s just lying for funsies

[obtuse flame]

I think she meant full time

[pearl spade]

sarah isnt that bad compared to helen lol

@thorn stirrupintern or smt on tiktok

wait fuck didnt mean to tag u

[obtuse flame]

Ah I see

[pearl spade]

my username and message was on one of her tiktoks

this happens a lot even outside of cs

day of a life at elite_school

[floral locust]

Dracos

[pearl spade]

Devg

[tulip sapphire]

where'd she say so?

[vital summit]

is there any group where people trade in community and learn?

[atomic briar]

bruh

[pearl spade]

lol reminds me of those reels on ig back during recruiting season i used to get SPAMMED with those get rich quick trading videos

[long raft]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-17/ken-griffin-steve-cohen-top-highest-hedge-fund-earner-list

[short patio]

Yeah I’m assuming

[short patio]

Why is she worse

[cyan sparrow]

yeah tiktok is all idiots anyway

you could tell them anything they would still be in the next video's comments asking what the best programming language is to learn

[stuck peak]

If there’s a gold rush start selling shovels

[short patio]

lc monkey is confused when no lc to monkey

how to get quant job? not lc?

[broken thorn]

that doesnt make sense

code monkey is a non racial term

for me it conjures image of infinite monkeys on a keyboard making code

[lyric loom]

EL CATTO DRACO

EL CATTO DRACO

[pearl spade]

its the most blatant flexing lol

yea

[fast gazelle]

@lyric loom hi 👋

[cyan sparrow]

@lyric loom hi 👋

[fast gazelle]

@rose holly hi 👋

[nocturne estuary]

Should be pinned really

[weary path]

btw you cant model stocks using AR or ARIMA models, the time series is not stationary and its very hard to make it stationary. If you really want to learn how you could potentially model stock prices read up on ito-calculus and jump processes. If you are a mathematician you can cover both after learning measure theoretic probability

[storm ember]

can anyone explain why people leave and rejoin this server so frequently? i remember i was talking to this bog fellow one day and they left and rejoined mid conversation, and like 4 times in 2 days

noticed from a couple others too like n3 and, well i dont remember. i just know I'll be trying to ping what seem to be regulars sometimes and they just arent in the server

[storm ember]

curious. whats the reason for the wiping?

[weary path]

😂 this is prolly even done in some places

[broken thorn]

might say stuff that looks bad/doxxes urself/whatever

if i tell you half of a private story that might be fine, but if across two years i tell both halves that can be an issue

if u delete all messages u can undoxx tho

[dawn frigate]

Hello Bob from Bain Capital

[solar axle]

are these all the quant firms available in your list, or are there more out there? are these the main ones?

[lost stratus]

Iv. Been updating it, its in between 140-150 now i forget the exact number

[broken thorn]

jesus christ

i cant blame u tho

uve maxed out the tech starting tree tbh

[solar axle]

Wanna update the list?

[broken thorn]

quant or ml or something else is the only way up from there if you want to grind

[lost stratus]

That’s what I meant as Of rn it has everything I came across so far

[lost stratus]

What is tech starting tree?

[solar axle]

Oh

[broken thorn]

i just mean as someone in college uve maxed out tech prestige pretty much

u can join more faangs or a startup or something but its splitting hairs at that point

[lost stratus]

Ohh right yeah lol

[broken thorn]

im having trouble calculating nash equilibrium, i dont think i get the formula correctly

i want to set EV(if i pick p) = EV(if i pick 1-p), but i cant eliminate the other persons variable from the calculation

the payoff square is:

this represents playing around camille kick in league of legends if anyone cares

after setting equations equal, im getting
pq=(q+2p+2)

which cant be simplified to solve for p

@stoic hound do you have an estimate based off gut feeling

of how often ur supposed to walk toward camille kick vs away from camille kick assuming you start at perfect sweet spot range

[stoic hound]

huh lmao

oh is this like econ?

[broken thorn]

this is top lane.

[stoic hound]

ah

LMFAOO

well it doesn't matter that role is decided by what bot lane is the bigger pig

so it's just based off ur bot lane 😂

[broken thorn]

a calculator says you want to walk away from camille 2/3 of the time and toward 1/3

but idk why i cant get that calculation on my own

[broken thorn]

assume bot is semi tilted and will start inting if you get solo killed top lane

[stoic hound]

yea yea every other lane is full of a bunch of slaves for the bot lane pigs

[weary path]

we have gone too far.

[stoic hound]

yea

r u?

[short patio]

omg vlaorant player

let's q

i have riot gunbuddy ackshually

ok but what rank r u

[scenic bison]

what rank r u

[short patio]

was asc3 once upon a time

[scenic bison]

i was d1 last act but i just smurf to play with my friends now

[short patio]

close to imm

[lyric loom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/981754288508375150/1077714682640597094/image.png

[scenic bison]

gah dam

[short patio]

haven't played in months

[lyric loom]

reference: Maine coon cat

always make sure to cite ur references

[split lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/toad-mario-kart-mario-kart7-gif-21262576

[broken thorn]

me too

[stoic hound]

doing riot internship still

[broken thorn]

could you theoretically push a miniscule change to main if you wanted to

like something super duper low impact

[lyric loom]

@broken thorn hi

[broken thorn]

increase the range of ezreal q by 1 or something

hello matatata

[sick flame]

i really want to do a quant research project. possibly work with a university(either my own or another) and build some sort of market trading algo

idk how tf to get started tho

any ideas on how i could get started

looking for a 4-6 month project

my experience:
tensorflow
working with lstm time series and nn
along with basic math/stats class (lin algebra, calc 1-4, probaility)

should i just cold email professors at other universities or labs?

[broken thorn]

how do i get some amazon interviews 😭

[sick flame]

@robust totembroooooo i just want to do something i feel so useless just doing nothing rn

[rare rock]

is there a difference between quant trading and quant devs/ engineers

[short patio]

in terms of interviewing / job? yes to both

[rare rock]

oh

[rare rock]

so quant trader will do all the trading

with the algorithms

[short patio]

the traders / researchers usually come up with trading strategies and find patterns in order to make money

[rare rock]

so who does the trading? the bots?

[short patio]

the traders/researchers write the code

which then trades

[rare rock]

oh

[short patio]

the SWEs/devs may be responsible for the infrastructure, the efficiency of the servers / networks / latency whatever

[rare rock]

oh i see

[short patio]

As for interviews, the SWE interviews are some leetcode + cs topics

for trading though, a lot of math/prob

and still need to know your coding

[rare rock]

swe has lower pay right

Could i become quant swe can make career pivot to quant trader?

[short patio]

yes, and pay gap increases with exp

[short patio]

unlikely, from what I've heard

[rare rock]

oof