quants-n-traders

[limber lion]

Wdym last

[obtuse flame]

Like you won’t have any more internships after that

[floral locust]

How can they enforce that

[obtuse flame]

Word of honor kinda

[runic grotto]

Is this by applying for winter or applying summer and moving to winter?

[obtuse flame]

If you’re gonna have a summer internship it’s not your last right?

[runic grotto]

Yeah true, so winterships are for seniors then

[limber lion]

Interesting

[obtuse flame]

Ya think that’s for Waterloo peeps mainly

[runic grotto]

🤔

[broken thorn]

isnt that summer for us

or summer for them

time to become australian

twice the js chances

gonna be like dr strange coming to my 12th js interview in a row

ive come to bargain

[fringe flint]

none of these words are in the bible

[obtuse flame]

Repost but any tech firms that have a non minuscule number of C++ teams/work that isn’t embedded or graphics? Bonus if there’s a team matching process you can influence, right now thinking of Roblox, Google, Microsoft, Nvidia, Bloomberg, and Meta, maybe Amazon? Feels like only Roblox and Bloomberg, maybe Google fits (Meta not hiring much lol)

[neat junco]

i think if you dig into the infra team there will be a ton

[vernal hornet]

apple, netflix, linkedin, most if not all AV companies, database companies like mongodb

harder to find ones that don’t use c++

[zenith maple]

Amazon ye

A lot of stuff in aws specifically needs to be high performanxe

[obtuse flame]

Oh didn’t know they use some C++

[high violet]

In my company they use C++ for latency critical datacenter applications

[tulip sapphire]

Apple def does, I had no idea LI/N did either but I also know nothing about those companies

[obtuse flame]

Ya heard Li is like Java?

[fast gazelle]

linkedin is a java shop

and that's the most sensible part of their stack

heard their frontend stuff is atrocious

[storm ember]

Provided you get an offer from a given company, what's the typical timeline from applying -> interviews -> offer

are there any predictors that typically lean it one way or another. like type of company, size, sector, prestige

makes sense

[opaque sable]

generally around 1 week between rounds and 1 week to get results after final in my experience

[zenith maple]

Its like a week per round

[opaque sable]

getting the first response after oa is usually the longest wait. can be anywhere from a day to 6 months +

[zenith maple]

More rounds more weeks

[storm ember]

ok cool. thanks

[opaque sable]

and yeah, bigger company = longer process usually

[storm ember]

so i can just apply to a gajillion places up front then spend the rest of my time studying / preparing

sweet

[gentle meadow]

Java and some cpp

It varies with teams tbh

My friend did cpp for social graphs team

[obtuse flame]

Oh that’s really nice

No LinkedIn for me tho

[fast gazelle]

i wish i was on a cpp team

[zenith maple]

I wish i was on a ccp team

[long raft]

i wish I was on a cpp team

[floral locust]

Next year dwai

[broken thorn]

i fucking love the quantity and zaniness of chinese sayings

it sounds miserable to speak tho, ive heard there are so many homonyms that u basically have to put an adjective after ur words so we know which of the 20 different meanings it could be

[final forge]

man I feel scammed my parents never taught me fancy proverbs and now I'm an illiterate

[broken thorn]

me but with english

[dense canopy]

just to verify quant apps open early august, so its recommended to apply when it comes out right?

[tranquil bolt]

^^^\

[nocturne estuary]

I remember Akuna opened super super early

[dense canopy]

Troll?

When I say quant apps I’m specifically talking about qt

Which apps even come out that early?

Five rings?

Not true, this was for expressing interest not the actual application

The actual application opened sometime in august

The express interest application?

Im talking about new grad not intern btw

Cold email?

This isn’t a good list

Was it cause you cold emailed?

Wow so if I apply august 1st it’s too late now that’s insane

Did you get reached out beforehand?

I prefer the quant list

Kk

[final forge]

can confirm variety of random firms I applied to where in july for 2023. just apply when shit opens it's not that complicated

[dense canopy]

Ye

[tulip sapphire]

oh it's the same for ng?

[dense canopy]

Bruh July is so early

Okay it’s whateve

Whatever it takes

To break in I’ll do

What’s the few?

[final forge]

or just don't care quant sucks not worth unless ur getting paid gigabux at a chad firm

[tulip sapphire]

ah ty i just read chat later on haha

[final forge]

at least ur not poor if ur getting paid gigabux

[dense canopy]

Bruh I gotta apply June now

[final forge]

*less poor

[dense canopy]

That’s insane

August is too late now

[final forge]

or apply after graduating kekw

[dense canopy]

Was it late June?

[tulip sapphire]

https://github.com/coderQuad/New-Grad-Positions-2023/pull/1

https://github.com/coderQuad/New-Grad-Positions-2023/pull/3

[dense canopy]

?????

[dense canopy]

?????

[tulip sapphire]

im just manually incrementing the new grad pull req number lol

[dense canopy]

@marsh ocean would this be the same for new grad?

[final forge]

literally showing when they added the positions ???

[dense canopy]

Oh didn’t realize

[tulip sapphire]

HRT: june 21 https://github.com/coderQuad/New-Grad-Positions-2023/pull/4/files

[dense canopy]

Hmm

I guess I’ll be applying June then

That’s hella early

Didn’t think I would need to do this

XD

Im seeing companies open their app June

Im applying that time

Not risking anything

Lol

[broken thorn]

cant wait to see s2024 interbships in march

[dense canopy]

nah

[hasty hill]

currently accepting friendship apps for summer 2024
requirements

• not waterloo
• 6ft+
• 7/10 looks at least (aka cs major 10)

[cloud spear]

psh cmu basically the waterloo of the us

true, obviously you folk are worse and more degenerate

[hasty hill]

the most degen schools are top ranked ones that are in the ice cold weather
they just stay inside and have leetcode parties

[cloud spear]

maybe in inventing startups, but I see too much cmu rep at quants

obviously goes to hustler university

[broken thorn]

thats pretty tall

[broken thorn]

im 2/3 sign me the fuck up

[cloud spear]

really, everytime I google hrt people, it's always cmu/waterloo

ah yes, the weakest hrt-er, gotta up your dose

[broken thorn]

100 cum students

[hasty hill]

damn bro...

[final forge]

0/3 I'm off folks

[broken thorn]

i know who ur talking about lmfao

[cloud spear]

sounds like a rare W

[broken thorn]

waterloo

[final forge]

wait fuck

nvm 1/3

[hasty hill]

i love harvey mudd cuz when they get jobs they say
I made it out the mudd

[broken thorn]

no i mean i know the photo lol

[final forge]

2/2 people I knew at MIT are at HRT

[broken thorn]

i dont know him sadly

[hasty hill]

yo can we not dox this random handsome devil?

okk wait there's an actual pic, yall gotta chill wtf

[cloud spear]

i still dont know if harvey mudd is a good school, i never applied because the name sounded nerdy

oh wait I posted the hrt pic

lmao

how the tables turn

[hasty hill]

yo STOP

deleted cuz no cap identities matter

if you guys saw me you'd be doxing me and nobody wants that

[final forge]

man maybe I don't have a good appreciation for the male form I don't know who yall think the hot one is

[hasty hill]

didnt u say earlier u would friendzone me, what are u doing getting friendzoned yourself

[cloud spear]

imagine doxxing yourself

I could be anyone

[hasty hill]

well i mean doxx others yeah lol, idk this kid

[broken thorn]

u have ur name in the blog post giga doxxed

[final forge]

wdym I just see a bunch a dudes, none stick out

[runic grotto]

If I had to guess I’d cross off people who went to waterloo and CMU

[broken thorn]

gigachad

lmfao

[final forge]

chad

[broken thorn]

name changing is busted

[cloud spear]

petition to change your name to doomfist

[hasty hill]

damn you went to hogwarts for middle school

[final forge]

that's bait tho💀

[cloud spear]

oh

i thought you were going somewhere worse with that

[hasty hill]

[cloud spear]

looking like a female aku from samurai jack

[broken thorn]

haku

[final forge]

samurai jack?

[broken thorn]

jackjack jack

gotta get bacj

[lyric loom]

[cloud spear]

smh not knowing samurai jack

[final forge]

yea evil dude from samurai jack

[broken thorn]

aku

someone give her a bandaid

[hasty hill]

wasnt there like a 2nd samurai jack series

or a movie

[final forge]

I can't remember names, I always just call characters by their relevance to the story lmao

[broken thorn]

sake

same

"dad bod"

more like steroids + fat suit

[cloud spear]

yes, they made a sequel, but on adult swim

[hasty hill]

oh well i'm 12 so not old enough for adult swim

isn't the sequel good apparently

[cloud spear]

thor dad bod probably more muscular than most guys will ever be lmao

[broken thorn]

just take steroids its not hard

[cloud spear]

i'm down

i'm blasting once I hit my 40s

[broken thorn]

tren and hgh

the two food groups

[cloud spear]

since the kpop stans died out

[broken thorn]

jif

[final forge]

they've just gone into hiding

[cloud spear]

we need a better defense system

petition to make a discord bot analyze all gifs and insta ban if kpop detected

[final forge]

hiding is actually bad I support kpop stans

[broken thorn]

goijg outside and talking to friends better

[final forge]

oh yea I'm not into kpop at all I just find it amusing

[broken thorn]

kpop funny cuz its like irl anime

[runic grotto]

Sounds like a relatively simple ML problem

[cloud spear]

just watch live action anime instead ez

[final forge]

take that back

[broken thorn]

wwe

wwe is anime cuz storylines and its all showmanship

[final forge]

where is the power of nakama? isn't that shit solo

[broken thorn]

whats a nakakama

oh lmfao

[cloud spear]

real sports is lame because it doesn't have quality effects like this tho smh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ali4TQq_X6U

[final forge]

true I wouldn't know

[broken thorn]

all according to cake

[cloud spear]

why would I watch real sports when they can't summon tornados

[broken thorn]

cake stands for keikaku

which means plan

[final forge]

no cool hair styles either sounds pretty mid

[broken thorn]

cool costumes tho

[final forge]

anime has cool costumes too

[fast gazelle]

@lyric loom do you watch anime

[rose holly]

If you watch anime you’d get an offer faster

I ain’t giving that for free

You don’t need anime if you have robinhood tho

[rose holly]

stop

find god

u need god

i’m not even religious

So you need God

amen

@everyone

stop all anime

[signal charm]

Can intl student on f1 visa studying Computer Science apply for QT/QR/QD roles?

considering it is necessary for the role to be directly related to your major

just curious to know whether I am even eligible for such roles

[signal charm]

how would you show these roles are related to cs

isn't it mainly math oriented

stats+prob

is any of the 3 listed not coding at all?

i see, thanks!

gotcha

I have heard firms mainly hire for such roles from returning intern conversion

how true is that

is there less chance if I apply for new grad?

like I recall reading somewhere JS doesn't do full time hiring for trader roles

[long raft]

What is to great about JS trader that everyone wants it? I have no trading inside so idk what makes trading so great

[floral locust]

I think it’s mainly due to culture, job security, and you have the highest floor for earnings

[long raft]

isnt trading like super stressful and most people "dropout" after some time since performance is bad or it isnt the right thing for them?

[floral locust]

Not at js

Mb in general

I also think quant trading doesn’t have as much cutting since a large part of the role is like quant stuff

Which kinda smooths the variance associated with being a trader

[broken thorn]

what makes trading itself hard

that u have to think fast and juggle information?

[floral locust]

You have a lot of stuff you have to think about

[frail kraken]

isn't that @ n3?

[runic grotto]

Yeah it is

[frigid zealot]

Howd u get into hrt 😦

Oh this makes total sense then

[floral locust]

Wb getting radix hmmmm

[daring haven]

how many new grad positions are still open for sept 23 start

[tulip sapphire]

I thought you were gonna say it wasn’t stressful since u had a return offer from Amplitude lol

[storm ember]

whats radix

quant hiring starts in july?

is it worth working until then or should i just study. idk shit anything this stuff

i guess i can look around first

[broken thorn]

radix name good imo

its a swe term

linear sorting

[storm ember]

ic.

[hasty hill]

remember in elementary
if jimmy had 3 apples and gave 1 away, jimmy now has 2 apples

ok well now do that many times per sec

and there are many jimmies

and many fruits

and sometimes it's not even fruits, it's a promise of a fruit

and fruits sell for different values

i'm jk idk anything about quant except leetcode buy and sell stock

[broken thorn]

as kindergartener i tried to do negative numbers with this

teachers got mad at me

i have 4 cookies and my brother wants 5, how many do i have left

[hasty hill]

a devolving family dynamic, that's what you have

[cyan sparrow]

is that ur rating?

i am rated 457 after first contest

oh ur just telling him wat rating problems to aim for

[broken thorn]

how good is applied ML research for ML positions?

like im not researching ML im just using already known algorithms to conduct research in another field

[languid chasm]

for anyone that did goldman sachs interview what did they ask?

I dont really know what to study beside leetcode, do they ask more math?

[barren steeple]

leetcode lol

[brave spire]

Do you guys shave clean before a quant interview or it don't really matter?

[cobalt sable]

i rub some peanut butter on my chin

[tulip sapphire]

Doesn’t matter

[dense canopy]

In general, meaning for all qt jobs?

[barren steeple]

I reccomend CBT Trading

[tulip sapphire]

anyone else read it as cognitive behavioral therapy

[hasty hill]

@barren steeple weird thing to read when i log on, deleting

[broken thorn]

i read it as cathode bray tube

[cloud spear]

there's only one right answers for CBT

[hasty hill]

u need help

[broken thorn]

critical brace theory

[tough elm]

🅱️

[tough elm]

indeed

[runic grotto]

I heard the best way to approach this was to land into Google for a few years first

Yes

[scenic bison]

focus on the first internship first 😭

1 big n would be hit or miss but 2 would put you in a good spot

yea probably 3 no name places got me responses from most places my second year

like 150 i think

something like that

[barren steeple]

internship and new grad is extremely rare, but thers a ton of industry hires

also jump trading is school selective asf

but some of the schools they hire from are shit

like i beleive they heavily recruit ohio state, or OU one of the two

lol

[runic grotto]

Ohio state?

Wtf

For SWE?

QR?

[barren steeple]

ye they recruit ivys + UT berkely Michigan ohio

swe

[runic grotto]

I am unsure why they make that choice

[barren steeple]

i mean i know 1 qr there from ohio

ye no clue

[runic grotto]

Looks like linkedin just shows the standard top schools, with UIUC being unusually high (compared to normal)

[final forge]

literally 1? that doesn't mean a bunch lol-- berk and mich are both unsurprising

uiuc also unsurprising

[barren steeple]

well i know a ton of swes

only 1 qr

[runic grotto]

Yeah founders are from UIUC so that makes sense

[final forge]

o interesting

[runic grotto]

why they would hire a lot from uiuc

[barren steeple]

its near chicago

uiuc has a lot of swe quant recruitment overall

[final forge]

uiuc is a good cs school in the Midwest

Same vibes as umich

[barren steeple]

especially for chicago

[runic grotto]

Yeah

[final forge]

ok well it has a good reputation I wouldn't know I got rejected kekw

[runic grotto]

In which aspect are you referring to?

[obtuse flame]

DE Shaw founder went to UCSD and they don’t care about UCSD

[runic grotto]

[barren steeple]

uiuc for sure ye i j forgot, idk about uchicago that much

[steel heron]

same

[final forge]

sd people aren't allowed to have social interaction

close enough

actually I heard sdsu kinda lit so maybe not?

[fast gazelle]

uc socially dead

[thorny gate]

anyone got a good problem list for codeforces/ICPC

[brave spire]

anybody got experience with third party recruiters/headhunters for quant firms?

why not?

[fair yew]

Those not well know firms are sometimes better than the well known

[brave spire]

this one headhunter said firms equivalent of hrt and got a call back from one of the firms I wouldn't have gotten a call back from if applied manually

[fair yew]

Most people I know at TGS or interviewed there used head hunters

[brave spire]

what's their cut like? does it affect your comp? and does it affect your selection probability all things else considered equal

[fair yew]

So if that is ur target and the hh has connections there then yeah

Otherwise I don't think hhs will help with the regular HRT or Jane Street

[brave spire]

what happened then?

[barren steeple]

yeah the hh ive been talkinng with only does the super top firms

rentec tgs pdt radix headlands aquatic

but i also want one of the regular big firms lol

[rose holly]

why does this channel exist

[fair yew]

why not

Is it possible to apply for both swe and QR roles at the same company?

[rose holly]

is that chaewon

nice

[rose holly]

@forest cobalt

how’s HRT

[dapper iris]

dang boerboel is real i guess

[steel wedge]

u got an offer?

[dapper iris]

no i just thought it was some fake firm someone here made up LMFAO

but then a recruiter messaged me today. 💀

[broken thorn]

tbh between boerboel and whalur

[floral locust]

Where is pfp from

[floral locust]

Cracked

[dapper iris]

its lafter from gundam iron blooded orphans

it was a decent show until the ending 😔

[floral locust]

Oh I skipped most of that show

I watched like first 10

And last 10

[dapper iris]

the ending is so bad

[floral locust]

Rly? I liked it

The middle section I heard was a bit of trolling

But that’s y I skipped it

[final forge]

damn all this talk about HH and aint nobody but witch hit up my linkedin. I figured I'd at least get some spam but fukn radio silence. last I heard was from like WITCH kekw

[dapper iris]

yeah i never got super hooked but i hated the ending lol

[floral locust]

Errr I thought it was a bit confusing when they teamed up with that coup d’etat guy

And the antagonist wasn’t rly that great

[dapper iris]

yeah there so many random subplots

that dont go anywhere

[floral locust]

headlands is

[dapper iris]

who made that letter 💀

[rose holly]

how’s HRT

Radix

it’s fake

[runic grotto]

Citsec?

2S?

[stark crow]

looks like qs we’d get in our stats course

fun times

[broken thorn]

@floral locust made 8.50$ profit in a poker game with friends. i owe it to you

thank you

[rose holly]

should've paid more attention in stat

all my upper level cs courses

use stat too

probability and stats are become a lot more popular

[floral locust]

i lost 3k yday

[broken thorn]

that pnl 😍

[final forge]

goddamn I need to be less pleb

[floral locust]

ran bad

im in vegas rn

internship

poker winnings

[dapper iris]

5/10?

[floral locust]

2/5 rofl

Quite a series of unfortunate events

5/10 is much lower var than 2/5 Lolol

[broken thorn]

why doesnt variance scale linearly

[floral locust]

The games are different

Obviously you’d normally expect 5/10 to have 2x the var as 2/5

But nittier players at 5/10 means ur primary EV is coming from bluffing

While 2/5 are a lot more vips gambling so ur primary EV comes from betting

And like if ur playing larger pots in avg the var will be higher

You can imagine the PnL graph of 2/5 will slowly trend downwards and once in a while it’ll spike up, sometimes spike down but overall plus EV

[broken thorn]

i see

[floral locust]

5/10 you’re slowly trending up since ur winning most of the pots but sometimes spike down

[broken thorn]

this is if ur playing common sense exploitatively right

bet a lot vs loose players, bluff more than typically against tight players

i assume this means bluff rarely at low stakes games because people are more willing to play hands?

[floral locust]

I mean

Even if u play gto

The variance in 2/5 will be higher in terms of bb than 5/10 if both games play as I’ve described

But yea generally underbluffing at the loose gambling games and overbluffing in the nittier games are good adjustments

[steel heron]

Whats 2/5 and 5/10

[broken thorn]

2/5 bugatti blinds

[steel heron]

idk what tht means but im currently losing at poker

[broken thorn]

i wanna go to vegas and play in tournaments now

much lower probability of profit but tournaments are so fun

[steel heron]

what do the numbers represent

[floral locust]

Sb/bb

[dapper iris]

where u playing

[steel heron]

[broken thorn]

we did .05/.10 tongiht

[broken thorn]

small blind/big blind

[steel heron]

oh

[floral locust]

Bellagio Wynn Venetian

[rose holly]

You

[gentle meadow]

anyone did two sigma final?

[cloud spear]

Pretty sure @rustic wind got in for algo dev ng

They're just super cracked tho

Oh

Rip thought they were the same thing

[gentle meadow]

@forest cobalt did u head back from hiring committee?

when did u interview

[rose holly]

i'm pretty sure n3 is the type to leave out the "if I think you're good" at the end of the statement

[hasty hill]

bruh cuz the intern class is like 5 homies who go to school together

[final forge]

how many places today?

[stark crow]

Other places had layoffs today?

[final forge]

bro how many I know 2

[stark crow]

No don’t @ him

He’s gonna start talking about the bar and I’ll have to ban

[final forge]

there's a lwayer here?

[rose holly]

why are layoffs funny

40% IS low lmao

anyone saying that's not low is being disingenuous

[final forge]

idk if all the layoffs are public/avoiding dox but anxiety is high rn

[rose holly]

don't be a bitch

[final forge]

according to the above it's public enough yes I know someone who was laid off today

[hasty hill]

@pearl spade
✨ THE BAR ✨ THE BAR ✨

[stark crow]

oof rip

[hasty hill]

[stark crow]

did I dodge a bullet by not going there

[final forge]

ik at least one other firm also had layoffs recently, unsure of scope or publicity tho

[hasty hill]

@stark crow would u rather be most handsume akuna employee
or most ugly hrt

[final forge]

yea

[cobalt sable]

yes

[stark crow]

gooble

[cobalt sable]

boerbl

[stark crow]

ugliest akuna employee > most handsome hrt employee

so the choice is obvious

[hasty hill]

wagons when there is no cpp project match at goog

[final forge]

good for him, cpp was a mistake

[stark crow]

wagons when he gets stuck with a frontend project at goog

[hasty hill]

no because i'm dating somebody in that pic
then i broke their heart
i'll let u guess who

in all seriosunes dont last time somebody did and almost doxxed
and i we take doxxing seriously here

and all they kept talking about was how handsome they were

[runic grotto]

FP?

[hasty hill]

very sus coming from u uglies

[final forge]

LPT put valgrind in the autograder and tell them to come back when valgrind stops yelling at them

[stark crow]

pass labs challenge (impossible)

[hasty hill]

waterloo kids when their custom written operating system in rust is very impressive but all their peers have the same project

[stark crow]

hey man

[final forge]

bro I s2g students put buggy code with UB and bitch at us because it sometimes gets less points. - > now we use valgrind to have more deterministic memory and fail em for having valgrind detectable UB

[stark crow]

im looking forward to the rust course

[final forge]

and then they complain more because apparently they shouldn't have to fix their UB to get points

[stark crow]

yeah I think all our c++ and c courses had valgrind and/or helgrind checks you'd need to do before you submit the lab

[hasty hill]

rust course just needs cargo check

i'm jk, if i was ur prof i would introduce all kinds of e2e errors into your code and see what your stack traces say

error handling is so beautiful in rust 😭 there is context all the way down for every error

[pearl spade]

dude these fuckers rejected me after a good cpp interviwe and resume reject py and js

[stark crow]

the first project in that course is basically Dracos’ intern project at the zucc

[hasty hill]

oh right i saw his diffs, all he did was reverse a collection

[pearl spade]

bro it was a 2 liner right

or 1 liner i forgot

[hasty hill]

bro it was hilarious lol

[pearl spade]

mentor said i should have merged it in with another diff

but it was for the optiomizations

[final forge]

yall doxing each other in the work place?

[pearl spade]

bro he was my refreence

he knows everything abt me

[stark crow]

dracos is kirb’s son

[hasty hill]

[final forge]

I spent 2 weeks tracking down a 3 line code change and my boss said good job

[hasty hill]

tbh dracos did demonstrate a lot of skill, i'm actually convinced now that interns at meta are blessed with great opportunities cuz u have ur scope defined for u and mentors assume ur stupid so their reviews are useful

and so he wrote good rust code

this is literally what i told ur ecruiter @pearl spade

bro if i spent 2 weeks of work and only wrote 3 lines i'd get fired

[final forge]

haven't been fired yet 😎

yet

[rose holly]

Are you gay

[runic grotto]

What’s the scale

[runic grotto]

Why does it say down next to JS

It’s at number 1

Tf

[lean copper]

Down from 0

[obtuse flame]

Two sigma best trading firm confirmed

WLB + NYC

[rose holly]

bro for me it’s akuna 🥴

[rose holly]

For me it’s capital one

why are u up

its

3am

[long raft]

Mr/Ms international

[proud furnace]

top shop is whatever you can get into

[daring haven]

is optiver numberlogic sequences?

[tough elm]

What website is this

[dense canopy]

Send that link

[tulip sapphire]

Alternatively argmax TC

That’s cuz u probably don’t talk much about quant firms irl and when you do it’s at public places where no one will say anything negative about any company

Like no one says Amazon hiring bar is at the floor outside of discord even though it’s true

[steel heron]

Because there are people IRL that aee below the floor

[tulip sapphire]

Oh mb

I forgot my X-ray glasses today

[steel heron]

Its ok ik its true

are you excited for where youre going this summer? are u doing something this semester in between

[tulip sapphire]

Yeah I’m super hyped and not doing anything in between

Other than school and teaching

[neat junco]

Will big tech or small prop shops help more for large hft places as sde/quant developer

currently it seems hard to get into large hft places

[tulip sapphire]

what is "small prop shops" in your mind

[neat junco]

Like tier 2-3

[tulip sapphire]

like belvedere/valkyrie/ctc/etc?

[neat junco]

Yeah

[tulip sapphire]

if you want sde/qd then big tech is better

[tulip sapphire]

idt you want to be a swe at one of these places

or honestly any non-hft prop shop

cuz then ur a "cost"/support-staff and not a money-maker

[neat junco]

Is it okay if the big tech’s stack is not cpp or the like

[rose holly]

how hard is drw

[tulip sapphire]

or that's my take, people like radix simp disagree with me

[rose holly]

assuming i pass their oa

what are my chances of passing their bar

[neat junco]

They are very random

And don’t have many HC

[rose holly]

it’s never even began for me

should i even do their oa

probs gonna dial

*fail

ya fair point

it’s good practice

[plush pelican]

ya they do !

[obtuse flame]

Big tech Infra is best

[neat junco]

Thanks that’s also one of my plans!

[proven steeple]

The market for stud engineers is super aggressive especially if you are proficient in python and C++. Many of my clients are hiring aggressively and are paying top dollar. For Python and C++ engineers. If anyone is interested message me for more details.

[steel heron]

nvidia if good team

and if google is bad team

[brazen wing]

anyone know which trading companies do fall offseasons?

[cloud spear]

Nah wtf

My bar for companies is companies I can't get offers for > companies I can get offers for

[rose holly]

lowkey got analed

[weary path]

wait whats omc?

[violet glen]

old mission capital

[steel heron]

onternatinoal marketmakers combinatoin

[weary path]

thanks

[cloud spear]

Whats desco?

I'm guessing de shaw

[rose holly]

no

imagine if it was turned into Shaw Communications

[fast gazelle]

Dn Shaw and Co

[quasi orbit]

lots of ex de Shaw at millennium

[runic grotto]

I've lost 90% of the funds I had invested ever since JANE bought the 78 highest volume otc stocks on the market. I don't understand why a firm who invests multi billions or trillions of dollars has positions in penny stocks anyway. I guess it's to recoup the losses from the Wall Street Bets shenanigans. I know if I had millions of dollars I wouldn't be putting it into the extremely volatile OTC markets. It's not what most hedge funds, financial advisors, and other market makers do. Most of them actually have policies preventing them from investing in penny stocks completely. But JANE must know something that others don't, or maybe they do something others don't, like manipulate the market to steal from people that work hard for their money.

Jane street has pretty interesting Google reviews

[tulip sapphire]

DE Shaw & Co.

[proven steeple]

Tbh projects aren’t as important. What these firms really look at is performance on the actual interview (coderpad or math) and behavioral (if your someone easy to work with and manage)

[fast gazelle]

a lot of the bigger firms have a lot of non-c++ roles

like there are people doing webdev

[runic grotto]

What about past experience at a big N? Is that important to passing resume screens?

[proven steeple]

Past experience is a big thing, you will need to know everything on your resume inside out

[proven steeple]

Dm could help you with your process

[runic grotto]

I'm just thinking about internships next year, I don't think I'm a part of your target audience

[proven steeple]

Hey guys, this is my first time on this server. I never thought I would use discord to network for this reason. However Last week on this server a really strong candidate was somehow referred to me. I now have this person interviewing technical rounds at several top tier firms. Thought I’d try it out dm with any questions I’m here to help give advice and introduce you to the right people. I have experience placing 20 year quants/traders/professors all the way to entry level.

Correct really they will look at internship and projects you did there rather than your own personal projects

[stray lava]

Has anyone heard Akuna is rescinding ng offers?

I heard rumors about someone’s offer got rescinded today, his start date is next week

[rose holly]

Heard this

not sure just word got around

I think a dev

are you at akuna?

Ah gotcha

seem to know a lot

Oh nice

[stray lava]

IAMs?

i heard python devs

[rose holly]

fuck

[final forge]

I know non python devs impacted. just not super public. grapevine says not just devs either

[stray lava]

yeah including but not limited to python devs

[stray lava]

what assets does akuna trade?

i heard they trade heavily on options?

[broken thorn]

they are an options market maker

[final forge]

gonna be real no idea what "dutch style" or w/e even means

let a man dream

[final forge]

that clarifies very little

[stray lava]

doesn't akuna change cto every year?

[stark crow]

Ty

[fast mountain]

Akuna QR beating BB by 30% is such a joke

Yeah I don't doubt that

But they aren't even trying to compete

[runic grotto]

Hmm, do yk how that compares to other firms rn?

[final forge]

so I don't know quant side numbers at all, but is that actually "trash" or just not top tier #s? bc from my swe perspective TC drops hard from the top handful of firms

that's such a cop out answer, I'll take that to mean not top of field

[runic grotto]

From what I understand, QRs have a base and then a hugely scaling bonus depending on how they do that year, making it easily possible for TC to massively fluctuate every year, right?

Ok

[final forge]

I just asked if your relative measurement was to only the top tier firms. if you want me to become increasingly specific, do you think they are below median QR pay in the industry? my guess would be no, but I know fuck all about quant side of things, I largely only know swe folk

actually appreciate the clarification, ig I'd restrict it to prop shops, including rando prop shops, bc that's what I'd categorize most of the firms that anyone talks about here as

my perspective is that there aren't actually that many prop shops that pay bank (disproportionate to big tech), from a dev perspective

so like maybe 10 firms lmao, not that I could even name em

[rose holly]

their pay is probably >= ctc, belvedere, wolverine, tmg, + 5 other well known firms

[weary path]

yes

no they bonus pool is usually per desk, (some don’t do this yes) so for example flow traders had some traders that made 75k and others that made 500k+ in the same year

who is paying more than 250k base for QR?

[rose holly]

Vexor Trading (VT)

[daring haven]

wdym by this

[tulip sapphire]

Yeah this is an important distinction for pod shops/places with multiple desks , I was speaking to where I worked at which only had a single pipeline for all trading

[tulip sapphire]

Places that are MS/PhD only and have really high TC like TGS can go over 250 base

[broken thorn]

220k + 0k/4year

[static musk]

could u share how high bb went to try and match your quant offers?

[tulip sapphire]

I’m guessing they max out ~220k

[static musk]

interesting, i wonder how salary progression looks like at bloomberg when u start at 300k

did any of your tech offers go over 300k after negotiation?

[quasi orbit]

Negotiate the hell outta Geneva

[long raft]

Hahaha am I’m the only one who is scared to negotiate and lose the offer? 😂

[drifting pelican]

Which firms in this space are the best for return offers? (Both for intern and ng)

[daring haven]

Don't worry about it

[nocturne estuary]

That list is relative isn’t is, I thought JS return rate not that high compared to tech

[daring haven]

Worst they will do is not negotiate

[long raft]

Took mine without any Nego. Was so stoked to get even one 😂

[nocturne estuary]

More like 2s solos everything for everything

[daring haven]

Congrats

Always just ask if they're open to negotiation

Multiple offers is better than one ofc but the biggest difference is between one ans zero offerrs

Most important factor in deciding firm is culture by far

Bad culture fit and you're in for a bad time regardless of tc

[hasty hill]

The best return offer rate is at

@lyric loom STOP CHECKING EVERY CHANNEL

YOU ARE EVERYWHERE

YOU CANNOT BE BOTH AN INTERN AND NEW GRAD AND FULLTIMER AND ASPIRING QUANT AND ANIME FAN

[daring haven]

There's an anime channel?

[tulip sapphire]

Huh what. Akuna QT only had 1 intern get a return offer

[clear grove]

i know at least one person who got return, no way he was the only one

[clear grove]

oh yeah i forgot akuna has both

[zinc palm]

anyone heard of https://prooftrading.com/, they have cool website and blog (?) but not sure about quality

[drifting pelican]

Swe and qr

[drifting pelican]

Congrats, where did you get an offer?

And for swe or qr?

Thanks

[rose holly]

as well as to old and manual processes that

"to"

i dont think they're legit

[hasty hill]

When i see u all I see is 1 qt

A qt pie

Wow

Wasnt talking to u but lol ok i know

Backslash cringe

Common windows L

[rose holly]

Why only 1 leetcode for jane street

How am i supposed to study

@rose holly

How do i prep for jane street phone

Ok ty

My interview is next week

Ive never taken algs

Ty i failed last time

[timber apex]

I heard that they cut 25% devs in America

[full jolt]

This is true. I know someone whose offer got revoked.

[last herald]

does jump hire off season devs?

[nocturne estuary]

Supposedly you can convert intern offers to off season but i am not sure of the actual path to doing so

as in, is there an actual offseason internship application process?

Jump is very closed door recruiting anyways, they take you to their dinners and have their personal events and things so I wouldn’t be surprised if this was also the case for off season interns

[rose holly]

Does jane street ask graphs trees or dynamic programming?

[winged aurora]

when i interviewed with HRT they told me what they value more is how people come up with solutions in a systematic approach even if they dk the answer itself

so i agree leetcode isnt the most impt

lets say they ask u how does a particular function works in the lib and udk u cant just say udk

u gotta figure out how you would have implemented it

[rose holly]

I guess better question is how many people were asked graph

[stray lava]

does anyone have recommendations for intro level book/paper of quant algorithms

[long raft]

Quant layoffs isn’t true it can’t hurt you!

Quant layoffs:

[timber apex]

what？

[broken thorn]

alex ji doesnt know common memes. this means his parents made him study too much and now hes beyond cracked and none of us can compete

[daring haven]

hi i have a couple questions about the optiver new grad qt OA:

Is numberlogic just sequences?
Are the probability questions green book level, or easier?

thanks

[nocturne estuary]

I dunno nothing overall I just made it up

Like they seem to pick you if they like you and then recruit to you and a few other students

[quasi orbit]

You are so cracked…

[nimble zenith]

What are y’all’s thoughts on akuna Trader/QT intern vs CTC SWE intern if I wanna end up as a trader. Considering return offer (CTC lets you switch), tc, and career progression

I think the main thing putting me off is that I’d have to rescind CTC and Akuna is apparently doing layoffs

[final forge]

afaik swe was hit significantly more than trading. but also yes layoffs happened

[nimble zenith]

That’s weird considering current vol. might be a desk by desk thing (like crypto desk layoffs would make sense) but idk maybe they over hired

[final forge]

grapevine says they overhired swe

[nimble zenith]

QT but both roles are being consolidated so they'll end up being basically the same by the time i start

[azure cloak]

anyone switch from swe (at a top quant firm) to QT/QR, and how was the process like?

[tulip sapphire]

Are you saying within the firm

Yeah you can sometimes casually skip straight to final but it’s highly company-dependent, what is more common is to switch to a different position at another firm

[narrow jay]

This might be a dumb question but what is quant lmao

[final forge]

some of us aren't cool enough to actually make more money

[finite sand]

someone from optiver did it, saw some post

[runic grotto]

which 6 are you currently thinking of?

[tulip sapphire]

Nah Ik loads of people who took apple over 2s this past year

[runic grotto]

How active are the various quant discords in #server-links anyways

[runic grotto]

[hasty hill]

probably Bánh xèo#4386

@pearl spade tagging u for no reason rn btw

i like your server name

[glacial blade]

Avatar for Dracos#6743

Link as

png | jpg | webp

Play games on Carl-bot. Use /roblox play now!

[runic grotto]

Why is the command to play games on carl bot /roblox

[hallow shoal]

Is this more of a visa issue or more widespread?

[fast gazelle]

akuna did layoffs and rescinded offers

[hallow shoal]

yikes

[cloud spear]

Rip wtf

Dang so even quant firms rescind rip

[runic grotto]

Wtf lmao

That seems so weird to put

I didn't even know it was a nazi quote

[cyan sparrow]

Is working on low latency stuff worth it or only good for hfts?

Ah right true

[final forge]

I know 0 context but I've used this as a joke a bunch. ofc not in a professional setting but yea

[runic grotto]

Please lmk if he gets back to you

[broken thorn]

guess who made 1.32 dolars playing online poker 😎

[barren steeple]

def much more niche in tech tho

for any ppl who are swes at quant firms

what type of work exists just curious

[final forge]

can't comment in general, random stuff I've worked on lately is stuff is slow, figure out why, and fix it. it's a lot less interesting than I hoped for lol

or thing is broke fix it, or there is a feature request go implement it

[quasi orbit]

low latency, core, networking

[fast mountain]

https://www.reddit.com/r/algotrading/comments/6g6t0y/max_dama_on_automated_trading_pdf/

Yeah someone pointed it out a few years ago too, kinda changed my outlook in him lol

[hasty hill]

I remember touring the Auschwitz grounds as a young teenager and seeing that quote and how it stuck to me. Once you’re there and you see it, you realize those words really MEANT something. What they stand for is so evil

So yeah this researcher probably did not pull this quote out of his ass. Idk if he sat at his desk one day and just unearthed it from his memory and didnt remember where he got it. That is literally the only charitable possibility

Which still is not realistic because surely somebody told him and yet he never revised it and there is probably no public apology anywhere

So even in this most charitable of possibilities, he is not scot free

Hence, evil and/or ignorant person

Bruh he literally writes in that paper how quant is the most direct path from idea to money

“The most direct path from an idea to cash”

This is literal pea brain fascism lol, the idealized universe you create in your mind where there is a perfect bijection between those who work hard and those who have the money

Ok I re read this and what i said was probably too much but u get the idea, i hate this guy already

[daring haven]

where does he work

[long raft]

Office perk: every desk has a nice view

[steel wedge]

wtf is this imc?

[cobalt sable]

holy fuck

id prolly work 12 hrs a day with that desk

[weary path]

office in switzerland yeah

[steel wedge]

looks amazing with the mountains

do you hage more pictures?

[scenic bison]

lol

[broken thorn]

its crazy

i went to denmark and i was average height, assume Netherlands is the same

there were a few women as tall as me too

[weary path]

the company i used to work for got acquired by imc so now they converted it to an imc office

[weary path]

indeed damn you are well informed

was an qr intern, got return offer right when the acquisition was final 😂

[broken thorn]

6'1

used to be 6'0 but randomly had a growth spurt at 21??

[feral topaz]

Anyone in here able to confirm SIG's SWE new-grad salary bump? I understand it used to be 120-160k but now people are saying it's been raised to 220-260k. Idk it seems sus to me that they doubled it outta nowhere

[last herald]

only traders/QR can be return interns, right?

dev you gotta either ng or bust?

oh hmm, my recruiter mentioned that they 95% won't accommodate if you want to push your return offer back or graduate a year later

tough spot bc I'm debating a +1 masters

[broken thorn]

the rich get richer

[last herald]

when did you bring up pushing back a year? Not sure if I should bother/what that process might look like

[quasi orbit]

hmm i wonder if its cuz its all sophomores who said they had a grad date in 2024...

[hasty hill]

based

@broken thorn i am not quant or game theory gremlin like you,
is lying about grad date prisoners dilemma?

cuz as everyone begins to do it, your decision branch is now

• dont do it and be at disadvantage
• do it to level playing field for yourself

for the record i agree w/it on that basis (everyone else does it)

[broken thorn]

close

it kind of is, idk the name of this phenomenon but i see it like catalytic converters if they were optional

if everyone does it we are all better off, but there is always an incentive for the individual to cheat

same goes for baggage carousels (if we all stood back we could see the luggage, but we all crowd so u have to crowd too)

i think thats a form of prisoners dilemma

[hasty hill]

bro is walking through life seeing everything through a gametheory lens

bro is pruning his difficult decision trees at the thanksgiving dinner table

he plays too many video games

trust me

he mains a character in smash that is literally a quant's dream character

very boring

very optimal in theory but results are scarce at the top/tournament level

to reflect his high aspirations but no results

when he reads this he is gonna crack up lol

[broken thorn]

skill (gpa and work ethic) issue

[broken thorn]

least delusional fox apologist

[hasty hill]

do u also have procrastination issues

[broken thorn]

we have it hardest out here

[broken thorn]

ye

[hasty hill]

I can absolutely imagine Hax releasing an 87 page pdf titled
The Fox Main's Apologia

[broken thorn]

lmso

i am fox main now btw. he is cool character

[hasty hill]

you'll be fine in a year, jmook has the sauce

he just hasn't started cooking yet

[runic grotto]

I feel like this is an efficient market kinda thing. For everyone to be truthful about your grad date is to benefit the companies. If you lie and say you're a junior, you are costing the company money to train you, with very little expected return. On the other hand, a lot of people who didn't lie about their graduation date will feel you are unfairly taking advantage of the system, as they were able to benefit from it.

For everyone to lie about your grad date creates a greater meritocracy for the individuals. As a freshman, you can outcompete juniors if you are hard working and take advantage of opportunities, rather than being outright disqualified for having the wrong graduation date. However in turn, this causes company expected returns to drastically lower, and may cause them to implement changes that will make this practice more restrictive in the future

[hasty hill]

g9 will be a very prophetical tournament @broken thorn

[broken thorn]

did we have g9 yet

[hasty hill]

next weekend

[broken thorn]

lemme fly there

brb

[hasty hill]

that's cool, tbh fox deserves to be called cool, through the entire 20 year history of game he has always been evolving

leffen is the only real reason to hate on fox historically

[runic grotto]

Yep, if everyone lies, it creates a more merit based system, rather than some being outright rejected

Again, this is not in the company's interests, but the individuals

[hasty hill]

"If everyone lies it benefits every individual more" = prisoners dilemma, right?

i get ur argument i agree, i just wanna distill it

[runic grotto]

Oh of course

[runic grotto]

Well not every man, you are technically harming the shareholders

[hasty hill]

merch will be good

oh that's fair yeah, you've made clear it doesn't benefit the company

it harms them, i agree there

The reason it's interesting is because you hear a lot of arguments made by simps and psychopaths that u should actually care about what harms companies lol

And i'm like uhhh who cares, do what's best for you

but when it can harm other job seekers, i see a real ethical problem. But if we pose it as a prisoners dilemma, we can all agree to make the right choice: lie about grad date

[runic grotto]

The reason why I included it as a relevant point is not something to personally consider, but something that will change down the line. I would not be surprised if 5-15 years down the line companies had stronger measures to prevent this from happening

[hasty hill]

Like some rando user on here once argued with me that doing over employment harms companies and i was like sure, but who cares lol

[broken thorn]

he is as cool as the player

other characters move you in a direction

[cyan sparrow]

do companies even verify gpa lol

[hasty hill]

hard agree, it's gonna get cracked down on

[broken thorn]

fox has all the agency

[hasty hill]

we know this because yield protection exists; they already take measures to hire the right candidate
it's why waterloo doesn't intern at mcdonalds

[broken thorn]

i could probably just lie and use inspect element on my online transcript. this is goin a bit too far tho

[cyan sparrow]

ik ppl who did that for negotiating ng offers

thats prob patched now

cus they can just call to verify

idk abt gpa tho

[broken thorn]

imo if i wanted to go full patrick bateman id just inspect element my transcript and if they ask for directly from school or official one then i ghost them

[hasty hill]

for full time jobs the loop hole might be that the stated salary on record is for example 100k but then if you're caught lying you just say actually
when i wrote down 150k that includes relo/bonuses/sign on

so there is plausible deniability

as an intern it is absolutely pea brain to lie about $

oh wait u meant doctoring shit

bro that's sus

[cyan sparrow]

Yeah it def has to be a super standard believable salary too

[broken thorn]

hit em with the good ol' slippin jimmy

[hasty hill]

Jiggs puts up the best fight on this btw, nobody dictates pace of match across matchups like Jiggs

[broken thorn]

tbh i just leave gpa off resume cuz im on the """deans honor list"""

[hasty hill]

it just takes huge brain skill floor like hbox to make it happen

[broken thorn]

puff doesnt dictate the pace, they just have the pause button turned on

[hasty hill]

the wiggly wallace

[broken thorn]

fox actually gets to stick to you or circle camp

[runic grotto]

For negotiating offers, do we have to somehow line up all the offers in the same time period? Seems awfully hard with some of these shit timelines these companies give

[hasty hill]

falco top plat circle camp

[hasty hill]

how do u feel about air time limits that big leff wants

[hasty hill]

yes this is literally the hardest part of the game and why everybody hates google and bloomberg

cuz they require proof

[broken thorn]

idt air time itself is corect but we need a way to unilaterally force puff to not be a bitch

cuz u can go way undee 60 ledgr grabs and still camp super hard

but also u can spend like 4 minutes in the air just cuz ur playing normal puff neutral

granted hbox rarely plays problematically anymore

[hasty hill]

he has said on record that it's not because of social issues / isolation

[runic grotto]

Wait Bloomberg?

[hasty hill]

he has said it's cuz fox players and meta game is just too fast now
and he has to go on offensive

and it's probably unsustainable to camp your way through brackets, mentally is taxing

[runic grotto]

I actually had a super good time with them, got through the entire loop in less than a week

Everyone showed up

[hasty hill]

oh just the nego process, i remember they ask proof

[runic grotto]

Oh

Nvm

I was not aware of which facet of the negotiation process you were discussing

[broken thorn]

i think its impossible to isolate social pressure from ur gameplay imo, hbox even said the leffen rant at lsi made him hold forward vs zain

i kind of want to become a campy fox like that and force everybody into 40 minute slogs against me

just circle camp and go for safe movement reads (upair the top plat in case falco full hops there, if he doesnt then im safe anyways)

[hasty hill]

you can be campy on micro level

just don't make it ur gameplay or aggro foxes will eat you for lunch

[broken thorn]

i think thats what i want

i want to be campy but my brain is working a mile a minute looking for habits

so the aggro foxes will only eat me if they are unpredictable and i am predictable

which means they should win

[feral topaz]

Idk I was hoping to find out

I just hear they’re expanding their tech side and raised salary

[barren steeple]

^

lie about GPA, past experience, and grad date

helps more than just grad date lying

[fading linden]

iirc most tech companies dont bother to confirm gpa usually just enrollment if anything. maybe quant firms r the same way and in that case

[cyan sparrow]

Don’t lie

Yakhuna is watching

https://tenor.com/view/furious-gif-26366448

[fast gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/furious-gif-26366448

@robust totem

[runic grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/furious-gif-26366448

[junior dew]

anyone here play poker

[broken thorn]

ive lost 3 dollars in online poker, whats up

[junior dew]

tryna play .25/.5 or .5/1?

[broken thorn]

not bankrolled for it, doin .01/.02 online rn cuz am beginner

devg is good at poker tho

[junior dew]

that's adverse

[broken thorn]

wym

[junior dew]

i cant hang

[broken thorn]

same

hopefully I will get bettwe without losing too m uh

[broken thorn]

no, what made u ask that?

im learning as we speak (binging poker vlogs and ruining my intuition by only seeing big plays)

ill think abt it then, most likely would just be on discord vc tho

[scenic bison]

@ berkley students

[broken thorn]

@robust totem wanna watch now?

ight

[broken thorn]

u done @robust totem

[broken thorn]

10 hours?

100 bbs on u dont

[broken thorn]

heapdhones not work give sec @robust totem

[proven steeple]

I recently placed a CS grad from Berkeley in one of the top trading firms. DM me could give you some real advice.

[scenic bison]

goku

this guys legit, hes THE headhunter

[cyan sparrow]

?

[proven steeple]

Aint we all!

[trim wharf]

Has anyone here attended a SIG trading discovery day?

[daring haven]

@floral locust hi

[fast gazelle]

@lyric loom hi

[proven steeple]

Has anyone ever heard of Voloridge?

[primal flower]

How often do quant firms make interns sign noncompetes? Is common practice?

[quasi orbit]

You can usually waive it

[limpid nacelle]

why amsterdam?

ic

you can probably ask for London

or apply to London positions

[runic grotto]

Do you think the pay will be lower over there?

[limpid nacelle]

Fs

(Considering the same company)

Although some firms like optiver will pay much more in Amsterdam than the average quant firm in the US

[rose holly]

hi quant people

quanting hard or barely quanting

[rose holly]

Can soneone do jane street mock with me tomorrow afternoon pst?

[obtuse flame]

I got rejected by Optiver us after OA and got Optiver Amsterdam hr phone after applying and doing their OA

[fast mountain]

Sleep is for the weak

[empty meteor]

just curious, what kind of OS / networking questions do they ask in quant firms interviews?

[limpid nacelle]

Mb, french auto corrector didn't help

I heard 25k€/m from a source working there

[weary path]

70 base 240 TC is what i’ve been told.

[limpid nacelle]

Intern

I heard a big increase, from 10k to 25k

Serenity?

I said €

I said 25k, including all financial benefits (according to my source )

[weary path]

@limpid nacelle wanted to ask you a while ago, how many eth grads were interning with you at G?

[limpid nacelle]

20k if it's true is still very pog

[limpid nacelle]

Out of 10-15 interns I've met and discussed with, 2 were from eth

Only masters students

But I know someone who joined G last year as a Ng with a bsc only

[weary path]

yeah also what i expected G zrh too competitive 🫡

[limpid nacelle]

A funny metric also is than less than 5% of g employees in Switzerland are swiss

[weary path]

at least in switzerland it is expected that you do your masters and the job market is also tailored towards people with masters. prolly a cultural thing

[limpid nacelle]

I can also second this for France

My peer mfs are simping "les écoles d'ingénieurs"

Yes

Only in some tho

"Classes préparatoires" and some bsc program

[weary path]

oh you got to polytech?

[limpid nacelle]

I went to a no name french uni

Probably top 1000 in the world

[weary path]

damn thats impressive

[limpid nacelle]

Surprisingly I don't see many French mfs at Jane street

Maybe I'm wrong tho

[weary path]

makes sense, same in switzerland. Not many chase the möney

[limpid nacelle]

Probably also almost no one knows what is jane street in France unless you go to T3 engineering schools

When taxes are 55% after first 50k

[weary path]

😂 that is crazy man

you were taxed in zh though right?

[limpid nacelle]

Yep, I'm not sure if I will have problems with french administration tho

I meant being taxed again at some point

[weary path]

😂 yikes, come to switzerland man. Tax (including social contrib) is capped at 23% at some places.

[limpid nacelle]

I'm coming in July

Coming back to work at G

[daring haven]

what i G

[limpid nacelle]

Where do/did you work?

[long raft]

i assume they mean with "G" the all mighty daddy company of them all: Google

[daring haven]

google wow

[long raft]

side hustle: referrals 😉