quants-n-traders

[clear grove]

yeah for quant swe you do

[fringe flint]

nightlife tho

[tulip sapphire]

sounds like a skill issue in you finding cheap housing \s

their def r cheap options but most people just want their own room with AC + nice view

[fringe flint]

The nicest places will have the most rent this is common sense

Can you refer to me as big daddy from here onwards please

[lost stratus]

https://www.hilbtec.com/

Does this look like it’s a good firm

The name seems like its a meme its probably bad right

[fringe flint]

😭no

[static musk]

Hilbert 💀

[broken thorn]

why are you trapped in a kaleidoscope

[long raft]

Don’t companies in New York have to tell base pay range? Cant find it on their Job listings

[lost stratus]

maybe they forgot idk lol

maybe they don't pay well

[broken thorn]

their hotel offshoot goes kinda hard

[long raft]

Looks like their are hiring Quiz aggressive. On LinkedIn and on their Website they mention everywhere That they are hiring

[lost stratus]

yeah I think theyre also super new / tiny though

[long raft]

Apparently they already had interns 🤔

[lost stratus]

why are like all of them originaly from outside the u.s 🤔

[rose holly]

BUY BUY BUY

SELL SELL SELL

BUY BUY BUY

UNBUY UNBUY UNBUY

[long raft]

Any London quant (devs)s here?

[novel python]

anyone know anything about jpmc aiml quant analytics superday?

[novel python]

not sure if I should be expecting leetcode or green book type questions

[floral locust]

HRT HRT HRT HRT HRT

[stable radish]

<@&868936794601828492>

[steady gale]

bro said no music in quant chat

[final forge]

it’s unlikely my boss worked less than 12 hours today

[barren steeple]

tell that mf to grow up

and get a life

[rose holly]

quant?

[final forge]

swe

[rose holly]

do u have a grind plan for getting some bitches?

[barren steeple]

i like men

bbc preferably

[cloud spear]

Isn't /r/quant more for financial focused quants, i.e. traders

[gentle meadow]

nah bbw only

[wheat isle]

Hello

[dense canopy]

is it worth grinding lc for qt if only 2 companies ask it in their process?

[rose holly]

the 2

[dense canopy]

drw and akuna

[tulip sapphire]

isnt that manual trading and not quant trading

i would never do non-quant trading

that's kinda it

except they also have ug QRs

[final forge]

bare minimum they have non-quant trader, quant trader, quant research, quant dev

No I don’t know what the differences are

[broken thorn]

all i see is quant quant quant quant

[final forge]

quant bad

[broken thorn]

quant quant qutna t

is putnam a uquant?

i did

will do a second time with a new identity

[final forge]

o ya dude I know there isn't quant/trading side

they're dev dev side lol

[tulip sapphire]

nah he's a p-quant

[final forge]

tbh I'm dev dev side somewhere comparable and I have 0 insight into how comp works for quant/trader folk

[broken thorn]

have u tried making friends with them

[final forge]

I don't think entry trader trader folk make that much, just a guess

[broken thorn]

and then asking

[final forge]

eventually

apparently I need to learn how to play poker

[broken thorn]

LOL

poker is the golf of quant

speaking of poker and game theory

thoughts on memorizing sentences and using them as seeds for random decisions? like for your 10th decision if u want to do 33-66 probability split look at the 10th letter of the sentence and if the letter is first 1/3 of the alphabet do the 33, and if its in the second 2/3 of the alphabet do 66

[weary path]

read designing your life

[floral locust]

Optiver is like p much manual

Stare at screen all day

Yes

More profitable

[tulip sapphire]

they should just hire league players

[floral locust]

Gamers

SIG

[tulip sapphire]

those mfers are insane at clicking shit on big screens

[long raft]

But they need displays with 240hz refresh rate 😂

[floral locust]

is this mal?

[viscid lynx]

anilist >>

[cloud spear]

relapsing on overwatch already smh

sad

likely story

bet you're asking for smoke breaks and playing ow instead

truly despicable

sounds fake

nice graphics card obviously

but also damn wtf why is water not frozen where you are smh

must mean this is an old photo

[cloud spear]

ew jungler

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

likely coverup story

[floral locust]

@forest cobalt this list was fun to build

lot of nostalgia

[royal forge]

maybe anime -> quant is the real pipeline

how tf u guys watch so much

[floral locust]

yugioh, bleach, naruto, shippuden, hxh, jojo hard carried probably

[cloud spear]

obviously best anime are highschool dxd, highschool of the dead, seikon qwaser, redo of healer, sao, and the millions of isekai

[cloud spear]

quants are just the most degen people, and anime is a good litmus test for degeneracy

average quant probably pulls into work with an ahegao keyboard and hoodie

[floral locust]

i think this is more endemic of being on discord than kwant

[cloud spear]

even wearing a cooked egg to pretend the heat is real smh

[final forge]

quant gapped — taking gardening leave before you start

[cloud spear]

btw @rustic wind out of curiosity what's your hybrid schedule like

or is it full in-person

looking at nyc rent has made me realize my goal is to move as far out of the city as possible

[tulip sapphire]

Hi everyone.

I've never programmed until a week ago and am wondering what this "LC" that I see everywhere is

[tulip sapphire]

video speed controller extension on Opera GX

you can watch vids on 3x speed

[cloud spear]

it's liver cancer

all us cs majors are so depressed that we have a major drinking epidemic

leading to widespread liver cancer

[tulip sapphire]

the firm i worked at last year had someone do this once, but she was a girl so no one said anything

[cloud spear]

i'm ready to drop into an office with only male face ahegaos ez

[cloud spear]

oh rip

basically in-person still smh

I had hopes quant places might be more remote

at least the office looks more accessible from brooklyn

[hasty hill]

The more high octane a place is the more likely they will want u there is my bet

[cloud spear]

rip

I'm 3 days in person at bb but my gripe is just that it's too far from brooklyn

so I have to shell out extra $$ for rent

[broken thorn]

life imitates art

[dapper iris]

how tf u guys watch so much anime

[tulip sapphire]

oh wait i just google'd what the words "ahegao hoodie" meant

mb they just came in with some anime outfit

not an ahegao hoodie

[hasty hill]

i am sick and tired of your high brow comments every day in the quant channel, if you put in half that effort into melee i would see you at top 8 going toe to toe with jmook but instead you are here

[hasty hill]

it's because we have taste

[broken thorn]

real talk someone came to a wrestling practice with the ahegao hoodie

[cloud spear]

man really watched this 6 times ||https://www.tiktok.com/@applecider169/video/7153382651024510251?_t=8WR234fu58N&_r=1||

[frigid zealot]

Any clue on when HRT will be hiring for 2024 New Grad?

[broken thorn]

mans minoring in one piece lmfao

[hasty hill]

this tells me all i need to know

if you're an 86 fan you deserve no interview

[dapper iris]

wtf

gg haters

[floral locust]

@dapper iris is a rent a gf fan

[dapper iris]

I need to update my list

https://myanimelist.net/animelist/thenextfaker?status=7&order=4&order2=0

[floral locust]

higehiro a 9???

aot 4, jjk 4, bleach 1, kaguya 2, code geass 4

[dapper iris]

ok aot should be rated higher tbf

I think i watched so much anime i rated higher

and there's no .5s

so i just kept moving it down

bleach being a 1 is kinda of a meme but i didnt like it

[cobalt sable]

higehiro was dirttt bruh

[cobalt sable]

they need to be crucified

[dapper iris]

kaguya is a 2 bc i watched 3 episodes and didnt think it was that good

[cobalt sable]

u need to keep watching it

[cloud spear]

real tbh

aot ending absolute trash

[cobalt sable]

ah hell nah

[dapper iris]

ok yeah ill admit thats one everyone said i would like

so ill prob get back into it eventually

[cloud spear]

best way to consume kaguya is obviously the manga

[dapper iris]

higehiro was low key goated tho

low key

[broken thorn]

i havent watched it but dont ppl say love is war is good

[dapper iris]

yeah

its like one of the highest rated

but i just couldn't get into it

i should stop rating shows i havent finished tho xd

[hardy cape]

https://tenor.com/view/kobayashi-kanna-loli-police-dragon-gif-12823520

[broken thorn]

bring your child to work day?

[hardy cape]

doesnt have to be your child

oregairu 4 smh

[cloud spear]

obviously best anime is redo of healer

[hardy cape]

oh god

[cobalt sable]

keyaru sama

[hardy cape]

coward

post it

[limpid nacelle]

If this the quant or anime channel?

[hardy cape]

whats the difference

[limpid nacelle]

#anime

[hardy cape]

same thing

[limpid nacelle]

My degen

[hardy cape]

it's a valid question

lmao

[broken thorn]

yikes is that canon?

glad i havent watched it then

would be way cooler if they went to waterloo and got facebook university internships

[zenith maple]

no eva?

[final forge]

fma:b is the real crime

evidence of peasantry

[dapper iris]

i tried watching but couldnt get into it

animations seemed bad

[zenith maple]

https://tenor.com/view/morsanuto-despair-gif-20861576

[hardy cape]

blasphemy

[dense canopy]

Y

[deft saffron]

bro davis square is the shit

[odd sandal]

@dapper iris

[floral locust]

song

[dapper iris]

@odd sandal

[small slate]

Hey sorry to bother you guys with this, but I was wondering - were there any resources you used online to prepare for the OS knowledge you'd need for interviews at trading firms?

Also, has anyone here studied using the Elements of Statistical Learning?

Ostep looks perfect, thank you for the recommendation.

For sure, thank you so much once again! I was wondering - how long do you think it took you to get through the book?

[rose holly]

uiuc is a quant feeder?

wtf

no cap?

ik quite a few people who got into their masters program

[final forge]

uiuc is a top cs school, I'd guess they feed a lot of chicago firms due to proximity.

[rose holly]

wtf

[final forge]

anecdotally I know a lot of umich folk

[rose holly]

i should to my masters there

my no name canadian school

aint helping

[final forge]

to be clear no idea what the actual stats are on that type of thing. small field

[rose holly]

still

being close

to these funds

should help a lot

[final forge]

(also from an entry level perspective being swe at a mid trading firm nothing to die for lmao)

[rose holly]

[rose holly]

why dont quantshops use rust

[final forge]

rust is also new asf. haven't personally worked with it, don't know how mature the ecosystem/tooling/language is

you have a lot of moving parts in the real work you typically don't have the option of saying screw it and rewriting most of your code base in a new language. (and having all your developers learn a new language with what I understand to be some fairly large fundamental differences)

I'd be curious how rust handles metaprogramming and other funny performance things. at least from my perspective I don't see the memory benefits as being so earth shatteringly awesome to justify the insane effort to change everything

You'll find that firms don't even use the newest version of c++ often times because there are random difficulties in getting stuff working.

[rose holly]

well it’s not just memory but you also get safe concurrency + there are people working on allowing c++ magic in rust

so you can literally import ur c++ libraries into rust

but ya i get ur point

well

depends

[final forge]

"in theory these work together" != this is something anyone actually wants to do irl

[rose holly]

but ya for most cases it doesn’t matter

[rose holly]

fair enough

[final forge]

I mean yea? end of day there are pretty big diffs between C/C++/Java/Python such that they're all actually used in industry and are essentially not interchangeable. haven't personally used rust but the promises of memory safety seem potentially very useful for certain use cases

[final forge]

yea I do really want to learn how rust stuff works, but I have massive skepticism about "safe concurrency" being provided by a language

4 (maybe 5) > 2? and those are only the langs I'm familiar with. functional langs exist and I'm sure they have virtues irl, I just haven't used any extensively to comment

like you can't just say oh C and C++ both high performance, interchangeable...

Java is really neither high performance, nor scripting, but I still think it makes sense for most enterprise apps.

Not like programming lang flame wars are really a part of a cs degree rofl, just stuff you notice actually writing code

[wheat isle]

And as far as performance goes it ends up having a lot to do with the respective compilers. Java is quite old meaning mature implementations that have incredible JIT compilation abilities and garbage collection.

[wheat isle]

When you already have large codebases, tons of in house libraries, and a mature ecosystem with C++ you wouldn't want to switch it up

[wheat isle]

Yeah they mention that the use of ocaml and it's clear syntax allows for traders and less programming savvy employees to be a part of code reviews to make collaboration with SWEs easier

[final forge]

can’t speak to all quant shops, but jeez c++ can be super duper unfriendly, but I guess it’s what people are used to. I don’t know rust, but I doubt it’s intrinsically any more complex than c++ — I’d describe c++ as pretty egregiously complex and painful, but it’s also what people know, code based are written in, and existing build infrastructure is set up for.

[wheat isle]

The core of the reason is still ecosystem and pre existing codebase. I don't think Rust is that impossibly hard to learn where you couldn't onboard and teach it. Especially if the memory/concurrency safety benefits were big.

[barren steeple]

difficulty in us colleges is extremely easy especially if youre coming from an asian college

college is murica is meant to primarily have fun and party

i go to ut austin and I think its pretty feasible to get all As in cs classes doing < 15 hrs/week and never going to class

and dont consider the canadian schools or ucsd not owrth study abroad at all

and not sure if uta on ur list is Ut austin, but location is oretty solid cuz its right by downtown, of a big city

versus like uiuc which is in a small college town

[tulip sapphire]

lol at the above convo

saying a PL is better/more powerful than another in absolute is probably limiting and conceptually erroneous

https://www.xilinx.com/products/silicon-devices/cost-optimized-portfolio.html

if you really cared about LL there are better usages of your time than rewriting code in Rust

https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/101472/how-can-an-fpga-outperform-a-cpu

the convo also reminds me of the stackoverflow post on branch prediction where a comment is like 'oh shit everything i learned in DS&A is meaningless, a branch prediction error could lead to more latency than an O(n) vs O(nlgn) algo'

otoh, ive taken 3 system courses at my uni, one was in Rust, the other was in GoLang among others, the last was in OCaml and the class with OCaml had the most cursed code whereas the class with Rust had the cleanest code

and ive never worked with the langs outside of classes 😢

[hasty hill]

Yeah, having used production Rust for the past few months with a good team, all the above stereotypical pain points are true for usability except the readability. It is genuinely easy to read when you get the hang of it.

Until you go deep into lifetimes

[tulip sapphire]

Until you go deep into async*

im dumb but lifetimes was fine for me with compiler guidance since the compiler is v v smart

https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/zf98bw/comment/izbf0hl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[rose holly]

this is insane

where do i learn more about this stuff

holy

[floral locust]

this is like hardware stuff

fpga and hardware generally pays less than swe at prop shops tho

[rose holly]

wont hurt to learn tho no?

its actually interesting

[tulip sapphire]

does your school have a digital design class?

[rose holly]

donno lemme check

i never thought about this stuff before

[tulip sapphire]

you can also just jump around wikipedia

starting at basic stuff like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karnaugh_map

[rose holly]

based

ty

[floral locust]

do most hft firms go w/ asics or fpgas for their super fast strats

[tulip sapphire]

i have a friend who works on a HFT team as a core SWE on fpgas at HRT

i can ask him

[broken thorn]

fpga afaik

source: i worked at the company who made em

[floral locust]

aren't they mainly made in taiwan?

[broken thorn]

also talked to a optiver dude whos title is fpga engineer

[broken thorn]

uhhh mumble mumble further up the value added chain

arista bought out metamako and they make the crazy fast ones

like 700ns or something

[tulip sapphire]

this is inline with what id guess

the reason im not so sure is cuz devg specified for "super fast strats"

[floral locust]

this is relatively in line with my priors 🤓

[tulip sapphire]

LMAO

[broken thorn]

inline prior function

[tulip sapphire]

I mean both are options, but fpga should be more common
is what my HRT friend said @floral locust

[wheat isle]

I get what you're saying, but I think the original question was more about why not rust for safety vs C++

Not performance, and I'd agree that finding ways to use FPGAs is more efficient

[tulip sapphire]

just write good code \s

[floral locust]

most people still use c++ for legacy reasons right? i would imagine it's not the most efficient use of resources to rewrite entire code base to rust

[tulip sapphire]

with smart pointers it's easier

[floral locust]

and also too prone to unknown bugs mb

[wheat isle]

I'd agree

[hasty hill]

Correctness is a thing when you’re choosing rust over cpp

You can talk circles and circles over performance and usability ad infinitum lol

[wheat isle]

Isn't talking about the memory safety part of correctness?

[wheat isle]

I'd agree with this

[final forge]

the more I c++ I read and write the more I realize I have strayed from gods light

forgive me father for I have sinned

[final forge]

I want to go back to that company more by the day

[hasty hill]

Yes but it’s just a subset of correctness

But mem safety alone is not enough to choose rust over cpp probably

[final forge]

afaik only altera (intel) and Xilinx (amd) make the actual fpga chips, I’m guessing arista leverages fpgas for their network solutions

[wheat isle]

I'd agree

[fringe flint]

Nice opinions everyone but I rank languages based on how short their print statement is to type. We aren’t the same.

[broken thorn]

@robust totem @final forge i dont know specifically for fpga but for asics companies will generally buy their silicon from broadcom and then make their own products and put their own software on it

cisco does both afaik (make their own and buy from broadcom)

i assume its the same tho

[royal forge]

For swe or trader roles

[rose holly]

lower?

qt bar is lower?

[rose holly]

what the fuck

thats not true

IS IT

WHAT THE FUCK

CAN SOMEONE FROM QUANTSHOPS CONFIRM

[final forge]

getting swe interviews was pain and it’s been suggested to me I might have had better luck gettin quant interviews. Can’t confirm dunno, but I definitely would not have passed quant interviews anyway lol

[floral locust]

Yea

[final forge]

resume bar seems probably lower? tho gonna be real I still don’t fucking know what the diff quant types do, and I’d hesitate to make sweeping generalities because I think they actually do fairly different stuff

[stark crow]

JS gives out QT interviews like candy at halloween lol

[fast gazelle]

yea it seems like getting trading interviews is easier

but trading interviews are harder to pass

[cloud spear]

huh

trading interviews are mainly statistics/probability right?

[rose holly]

no its probs more thn tht

[stark crow]

if you've taken a uni stats course you're fine imo

at least from what I've seen is asked at qt interviews

[rose holly]

i took two stat & prob courses

and got an A- in both

i wouldnt say im good at it

but with enuf time

i can solve most questions

i doubt im good enuf to pass qt interviews

like highly doubt it

[fast gazelle]

personally i find leetcode far easier than stats questions

[quasi orbit]

Trading seems mostly like probability and game theory

once u get used to it idt it’s super difficult

[rose holly]

no brudda

ur just gasing me up

GOD KNOWS WHAT UR EVIL PLAN IS

[floral locust]

I think u could coach a high schooler over a summer to pass most qt interviews

[rose holly]

"lemme gas this dumbass up so gets banned from quantshops " joke

i doubt it

its not that easy

[floral locust]

Qt has a lower knowledge bar than swe

There’s just more variance

[rose holly]

if its like that

im gonna apply to them

*gets blacklisted

[stark crow]

devg qt coaching services

[rose holly]

[barren steeple]

tbh

all interviews are easy

like even swe interiews are like same difficulty as questions on dsa class exams

my middle school cousin could pass qt interviews

[rose holly]

my nonexistent 6 year old cousin could pass qt interviews

[quasi orbit]

damn I expect u to get insane offers next szn

[final forge]

So my impression is that it’s not hard per se, but you still have to be smart in the sense of being able to solve their random stats/prob/counting games quickly and consistently

I’m actually just slow asf so I’m pretty sure I’d fail most QT interviews regardless how much I grind

[stark crow]

I’ve been watching coffeezilla recently so I’ve got even less tolerance for crypto gurus than I usually do

Also ty

[final forge]

based mods

[floral locust]

HRT HRT HRT HRT HRT

[broken thorn]

quant interviews get harder the older u get

imagine the day after i memorized the whole times table in 5th grade

easily ace the mental math

6th grade when i learned a factorial? easily solve all combinatorics

my brain has too much useless math in it now

[final forge]

I never did this

unironically will never pass an interview that involves any degree of mental math

[broken thorn]

we had a program called fastt math and they had a preliminary round to see how much times u already knew, i took so long that the class ended and i had to stay late so i thought i was stupid

but i got most of them initially

[final forge]

swe? at some firms sure

[barren steeple]

2sigma is really easy and low tier

not worth it

[rose holly]

is it tho

i always get ghosted

[barren steeple]

i thot they oa is automated?

[rose holly]

yes

[barren steeple]

i got it 3 yrs in a row and never did it

[wheat isle]

I've applied to TS 3 years in a row and haven't gotten SWE OA

maybe next year

for NG

[rose holly]

[wheat isle]

State school life

lmfao

[final forge]

Did not get

[barren steeple]

is it that good

[wheat isle]

What's their list?

[barren steeple]

ppl in trading say 2sig has super good wlb, but ppl in trading have a warped view of good wlb

[wheat isle]

lemme check

I'm on the list

I mean I'm on the list and have never gotten OA so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Guess I just suck

@barren steeple guess you're just a god, do you have something crazy on ur resume

[floral locust]

yea 2s is so easy @rose holly you must've easily breezed your way to an offer right?

[shell gazelle]

Really?

[cloud spear]

wtf

i'm gonna want to die if I have to do 10+ round interviews for quant jobs lmao

most interview rounds I've done was like 5 at most

at non-quant

[barren steeple]

2sig scheduled a 6 round final, and i made up a fake deadline to see if they could shorten it

then they rejected me

for swe

💀

ye ill be more careful next year if i hear back to not to get rejcted

wlb sounds kinda nice

[twilit bluff]

What does it even take on your resume to make it to the interview stage?

Nothing short of FAANG?

[shell gazelle]

I’ve gotten a couple interviews with just F500. Also go to a non-target

[twilit bluff]

Thank you, that's reassuring

If I don't get anything rescinded then I'll have Amazon this summer and Roblox during the fall and hopefully that'll be enough for my resume to consistently get interviews

Fingers crossed for next season

[barren steeple]

i had 9x faang and got ghosted

[cosmic belfry]

anyone know if there's a discord for incoming full time cit/citsec?

[rose holly]

i feel violated

[twilit bluff]

I am sorry

It was a huge stroke of luck

Nothing more

[obtuse flame]

Yeah Roblox is RNG

Well all of them are tbh

[twilit bluff]

Thanks bro

[fringe flint]

google moment

chad linkedin: u can breathe? heres an offer. also u get a nap everyday
virgin google: well ur perfectly qualified after 20 hours of interviews, but nah fuck you go be homeless

[fast gazelle]

lol the real LinkedIn interview is getting past the resume screen

and team matching

I swear nobody fails the technical

[tulip sapphire]

bwahahaha this cannot be real https://www.reddit.com/r/algotrading/comments/zxqhh7/my_ai_is_predicting_the_exact_open_price_of_spy/

tfw you backtest on training data and dont realize it 🤡

[broken thorn]

lmfao now im imagining he gets perfect data for the first 1376 days but is super modest and then on the 1377th day he goes all in on spy opening at 23 trillion

[fringe flint]

Even if this was true, why post this on Reddit and not sell it for a million dollars to some firm 😭

[tulip sapphire]

naw brutha they are playing 5d chess tryna make people think that SPY will open at 372.63 the next day

[wheat isle]

Google is two rounds for everyone

[cloud spear]

just gotta remember to congratulate people on transitioning whenever they announce an hrt offer

[cloud spear]

i feel like I made at least one hrt joke

maybe my cmu jokes just covered them up

[broken thorn]

congrats! f2f is a brave decision

[broken thorn]

female 2 female transition

[barren steeple]

33k total

and im oretty sure they dont nego really, i believe its possible tk get a 7k sign on but thats it

[clear grove]

actually? thats like what they pay techops...

[barren steeple]

Nah for swe

tech ops is 27 i believe

[clear grove]

oh yeah for 10wk

still surprised those are that close

[floral locust]

Yea jump kinda trolls swe internships

But the ft offer is p good

[rose holly]

i made 34k at sap

after tax

doesn’t add up

oh for 10 week

nvm

nvm

8 month long internship

that’s why

[fast gazelle]

wait Jump is only 35k?

levels is way off then

[rose holly]

me and another intern

literally rolled out 2 new products

and maintained it

and we helped onboard our replacement interns

near the end we were the most tenured people on that team

[runic grotto]

Does SWE just make much less than QR everywhere

[cloud spear]

I would assume so since QR is basically PHD people

[runic grotto]

What's with the name

[cloud spear]

the name's just for a great cause y'know

obviously people from waterloo and cmu

just the worst

most degenerate

of people

[rose holly]

ayo

did u just roast phd people

oh nb

nvm

i read that the other way

MY BRAIN TRICKED ME INTO READING I WANTED TO HEAR

OMG

[cloud spear]

what did you hear

lmao

PHD people are basically QR?

[rose holly]

no no

the swe thing

i read "swe people get paid more"

[cloud spear]

ah

[rose holly]

[cloud spear]

I mean I do think phd people are crazy

but that's separate

I maintain that the average cs/math PHD person is basically the unabomber

[rose holly]

u need to be insane to do a phd

[limber swan]

trade deez nuts

[broken thorn]

@floral locust when u do the gto strat in poker how do u come up with random numbers

to decide on decisions

[floral locust]

you can use the minute hand of a clock or put a chip in middle of stack and turn it and see which direction it points

[rose holly]

where do u learn pocker

n shi

[broken thorn]

i am trying to

[rose holly]

is there a book about this stuff

or

just random online stuff

[broken thorn]

i think book

[rose holly]

mind dropping the name of the book?

[broken thorn]

no fucking clue lmfao

reddit said

there was a book or 2

[rose holly]

wtf

aight bet

time to find it

[broken thorn]

https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comments/q7xmjt/best_way_to_learn_gto/

here

this guy says "Play Optimal Poker: Practical Game Theory for Every Poker Player"

[broken thorn]

do you mean sandwich a chip between two others but have it peek out by a bit and spin the stack?

thats genius

[floral locust]

yes

[broken thorn]

i was thinking of memorizing a sentence and then iterating through the letters to grab bits from them

urs sounds much better for poker tho

[floral locust]

ur trying to learn how to run before even knowing how to walk

[broken thorn]

maybe i remember some paragraphs with roughly random starting letters of vowel/consonant, and then grab enough lettres for whatever odds

[broken thorn]

very true, but this also applies to any game i do tbh

[floral locust]

in terms of prioritizing what to actually learn and what'll actually help randomization should be at the very bottom

[broken thorn]

i need to make game theory decisions on the fly when playing melee too (and u dont have time to think there, so id need a faster method than the ones we are talking about rn)

what do you recommend? reading a book on gto or what

[floral locust]

randomization is the end result of when ur indifferent between two actions and you're also playing against a perfect gto player

usually in practice any prior no matter how small should influence you to do one action or the other 100% of the time

[broken thorn]

really? i feel like thats an ego play and only works against people worse than you

[broken thorn]

some quick looking online suggested that gto players are indifferent to their opponents even if the oppoentns arent perfect, and they value being unreadable over reading opponent

[floral locust]

in the context of poker most of the players at the table should be worse than you

and gto is not ev maximizing against any opponent that deviates from gto

like i don't rly think u even need randomization to become a supremely winning player even at the higher stakes

[obtuse flame]

Yeah if you are playing casually with friends don’t do gto lol

From personal experience

[broken thorn]

what about if playing online?

[obtuse flame]

If low stakes or no stakes then still don’t gto

[broken thorn]

what do you all recommend i do to get good at poker instead?

[floral locust]

i think in unknown player pool starting w/ gto baseline is good

but

u should develop specific player notes and have general population tendencies

after a good sample size

[obtuse flame]

Every one pretty much plays tight and goes off when they have a hand

Except pre flop, ppl love seeing the flop even if you raise a bit

Casual players ^

[floral locust]

i think the wswbr stat is a bit high yea

[broken thorn]

ok

[floral locust]

the wwsf stat is usually a bit low tho

also in general oop raise % are also low

[fast gazelle]

swe are way more important

[broken thorn]

any books or guides to get the basics down? i know the rules but not much of the strategy besides bluff sometimes

[fast gazelle]

anyone can find alpha

[floral locust]

this might be an overgeneralization i think you can overrealize ip if you overcbet flops

since you won't be raised as often and overrealize equity and also generate more folds than normal

[broken thorn]

does overrealize mean increase leverage?

like if u have a 5% edge winning more money by increasing stakes rather than outplay?

[floral locust]

also the won at showdown when bet river (wswbr) stat being a bit high means you can probably overfold rivers

[runic grotto]

I'm trying to figure out if SWE after 5 years (I think that's the average PhD duration) matches QR and if they scale as well

[obtuse flame]

Ye I played with friends and they would chase flushes and straights

[broken thorn]

phd is almost never correct to maximize tc

[obtuse flame]

And they only bet when they have pretty much the nuts lol

[broken thorn]

im not quite following between all the jargon, are you all saying to raise before the flop a lot of the time, and to fold at the river?

or what

[floral locust]

different players are bad for different reasons, one of the benefits of studying what the optimal line should be is that you know when people deviate

and also know the optimal counterplay when nodelocking opponent's actions for making suboptimal actions

[broken thorn]

what does overrealize mean here

[floral locust]

not rly important just a specific example

i think there's a lot more basic building blocks to learn before you need to concern yourself w/ that

[broken thorn]

yeah

i want 2 get good at pokekrr

some pro did this once and i think it worked

cuz he needed to get first place at the table or something idk, everyone just folded and the one guy to call lost

[pearl spade]

[hasty hill]

?avatar @pearl spade

[glacial blade]

Avatar for Dracos#6743

Link as

png | jpg | webp

Play games on Carl-bot. Use /roblox play now!

[broken thorn]

?avatar

?avarar 2kirb

?acata

?avatar @hasty hill

what did i do WRONG

[pearl spade]

naw uniswap is like fake prestige

no one knows abt it but its a startup so no one says anything

[runic grotto]

Valuation?

Honestly

Given how small it currently is

Going there seems risky but hella interesting

Could completely flop, but could be massive

[runic grotto]

Yeah it's high risk with high(?) reward

[clear grove]

Dropbox >>

[zinc palm]

Some of the smartest ex snap people went there

plus the company is so lean wtf

130 employees but 165m funding

[zenith maple]

But its crypto

[zinc palm]

You mean valuation?

Also I couldn’t find anything related to how they make money

Seems like most fee go straight LP pool

[pearl spade]

where did u get smartest ex snap 🤔

i saw a few ex snap but how to quantify the smartest

[rose holly]

ive met a few mfs at snap

they're not that impressive

[pearl spade]

boba catching strays 😭

[pearl spade]

its fee with swaps that go to them iirc

they explicitly state that they're not profitable so they rely on funding

[rose holly]

lean

[barren steeple]

he was at snap i think

so he probably knew them

[zinc palm]

yeah

i got to talked briefly with some of them

I think they try to navigate this with uniswap v3 and the auto router thing

[pearl spade]

they hire conservatively and havae runway with funding

[stark crow]

dracos in the quant channel rip

[frigid zealot]

Wot happened to dracos

[pearl spade]

akuna/hrt L after phone
imc/jump/citadel L's after onsite

imma be back with a vengeance in fall 2023 😈

[runic grotto]

[cloud spear]

Huh did any of them ask OS/architecture/networking questions?

[stark crow]

you need to go outside is what you need to do

cit and js

they post on loo's job board every season lol

JS more consistent than goog on posting all seasons for loo kids

[runic grotto]

Solve this Rubick's cube to pass the interview

You have 5 minutes to learn how

[stark crow]

it's called a cooldown, it's not a blacklist

basically every company has one if you fail during the interview stage

[runic grotto]

Do you know if companies place you on CD if you simply fail resume screen?

[broken thorn]

let them choose 3 feats like that on a list of dozens

much more entertaining than "what are you strenfgths"

[dapper iris]

usually you can just apply next year

[frigid zealot]

When r u graduating?

[floral locust]

Mid summer is when most people recruit some places open april and may I believe

[twilit bluff]

Do referrals actually do anything for trading firms

Ik for a few tech companies it's a negligible impact at best

[winged aurora]

referrals get ur resume screened for the team

but doesnt make the rounds easier or anything

or if ur friend is close with the team lead, the team lead will ask u simple questions

[stark crow]

you'll find out when you interview for them

there's a diff answer for basically each firm so there's no point in asking this unless you have something specific in mind

[twilit bluff]

Yeah that's what I figured, would just help pass the resume screen and get TO the interview but not anything else

[winged aurora]

Yea man. But if ur friend is someone who's more senior the story could be different

Got a friend who was referred to join PayPal

His technical round was just do binary search and that's it

Purely for formality

[twilit bluff]

Oh wow yeah that's something

I guess it's the same at trading firms

[cobalt sable]

[zenith maple]

quwuant

[pearl spade]

can graduate between may 2024 - may 2025

fall 2023 is when summer 2024 recruiting starts lol

[pearl spade]

jump asked me in 1 round for UI position which i said idk i havent taken networks class b4 and hrt asked some os specific stuff which i asnwerd corecrlty for phone

fall 2023 is when summer 2024 recruiting starts just like fall 2022 is when summer 2023 recruting starts

[cloud spear]

huh was the os stuff super general like "Why is memory virtualized" or rando concurrency questions

or more in-depth

but also rip jump asking networking

guess I'll have to review that

[thick pollen]

saw this from someone who says he's a qr

he says it's a company specific kind of bonus. so maybe some knowledgeable person can recgonize which company it is

[pearl spade]

yes yes and yes

[pearl spade]

if ur good at any firm

ur chart will look similar

but predicting ur comp over time is like predicting the markets

[floral locust]

They’re quite slow rn

Since holidays and also many applicants

I was but cancelled

[royal forge]

this u

[broken thorn]

god i wish that was me

i would give anything to be this guy https://www.linkedin.com/in/eugene-xu-50481a7/

[floral locust]

@rose holly back office bank kwant rope

[broken thorn]

helped make a soros tier trade

[floral locust]

I don’t know if bank kwants are paid a good % of their PnL

[broken thorn]

who cares, its a transitory position so you can exit to sustainable wind farm startup founder

[steel wedge]

u accepted an offer?

[tulip sapphire]

this looks like a chinese hedge fund

Just wondering, do you mind asking if they were taxed on PG?

or were they able to avoid LT capital gain?

[rose holly]

no its bad

[snow wing]

Has anybody interviewed for Headlands?

Im not sure what to expect, and whats their structure of interviewing.

[steel wedge]

what role

[snow wing]

SWE

[scarlet vine]

Can be anything from research to c++ questions, expect everything

[frigid zealot]

Anyone here learned everything in like 6 months and got hired at a trading firm as a SWE?

[frigid zealot]

It’s my new goal

Was wondering if it’s possible

For SWE right?

I recently started sysdesign and now i’m doubting myself with OS and Networking lmaoooo

[frigid zealot]

I think I have algo & ds down (but probably not at the level that trading firms want), my main concern is with os and networks

Also do I need to switch to cpp to work at trading firms as SWE?

[fast gazelle]

you're really overestimating the difficulty of quant swe interviews lol

they basically ask lc mediums on average and only some will test you on os/networks (but even then, it's not like you need to know that much)

(this is for intern, idk if the difficulty goes up for ng)

[frigid zealot]

I passed meta/amazon interviews and interned at both, do you reckon the LC level would be somewhere near Meta's?

[fast gazelle]

probably

[quasi orbit]

cracked

How can I become more like you

[broken thorn]

look at @rustic wind's github post

[wheat isle]

6 months is a lot of time tbh. Depending on how you spend it that is

[wheat isle]

Though also they went to CMU. Getting past resume stage is hard depending on a bunch of factors

[frigid zealot]

I’m actually in my final year of CS kn my uni 🙂 Any tips for getting pass resume screening? Peeps from my uni have been getting interviews from Jane Street but I got insta rejected this year 😦

Started reading grokking but my palantir interview is in a week 💀

[cloud spear]

So did you ever get any coding language trivia questions

Huh

How in depth were they

Huh

Btw just to plan for 2024 hiring season, what months did you apply to hrt and most hft

When was thar rhia season

Huh

Welp got half a year to prep

[frigid zealot]

It’s for new grad and they have a “decomposition” interview hahaha

How do you think I should prepare for decomp then?

Interesting… so more like utilizing data in db with API to solve problem

[gaunt magnet]

Does uni teach u system design..

where ur blog post at

like yt?

h nvm

oh ty

[floral locust]

getting out to go to js

[broken thorn]

@floral locust the book is talking about river strategies right now, and im not sure if it also applies to pre river.
they basically say "betting and raising should be done by polarized ranges, while checking and calling is usually done by condensed ranges"

does that mena my condensed range should play passively at all stages of the game?

[floral locust]

You bet and raise with more hands on flops and turns since more worse hands have to call since they have equity with cards to come

On the river there are no more cards to come so your betting range is typically fewer hands

[broken thorn]

why do worse hands have to call? because they have a chance of becoming better still, while after river there is no chacne to become better?

[floral locust]

Yea

[broken thorn]

cool

this do be eye opening, its obvious in hindsight why betting with polar range is +ev

since u can win to fold or win to showdown

[floral locust]

Wot

[broken thorn]

if u are polar agianst condensed range then betting is beneficial to you because they either fold to the bet and you get the pot, or they call your bet and then you somtimes win sometimes lose

[zenith maple]

Is akuna trading OA j mental math

like zetmac?

[broken thorn]

zetamac+sequences

use rfqjobs sequence test for practice

@rustic wind when are ugonna become a tiktoker

day in the life of a swe who didnt get laid off

[zenith maple]

i aint making it past this OA

[broken thorn]

o t t f f s s e n _

whats the next one

bitch

u fail and u blacklisted from all quant forever

[zenith maple]

o

[broken thorn]

wrong

quit

you have lost

[zenith maple]

https://tenor.com/view/morsanuto-despair-gif-20861576

rescinding my application

[broken thorn]

its t

[runic grotto]

How tf do you got time to film tiktoks

[zenith maple]

why

[broken thorn]

then e

then t

then t

then f

f

s s e n t t t t t t t t t t t

[zenith maple]

you're lying

[broken thorn]

t t t t t t t t t f

[zenith maple]

i have been trolled

[broken thorn]

f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f s

no you have not

this is a real sequence

o ne
t wo
t hree
f our

f ive

[zenith maple]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-skull-skeleton-berserk-gif-25177393

[final forge]

c++ is the devils language

thank you for coming to my ted talk

[broken thorn]

dude i worry for your mental health

[final forge]

don't worry so do I

[zenith maple]

how to improve zetmac score to 50 in 1 week

[rose holly]

fuck zetmac

gives me anxiety

[floral locust]

HRT HRT HRT HRT HRT

[cloud spear]

There's one tiktoker whose whole brand is flexing being at hrt lmao

I don't remember the name, it was something like the[]house

Probably

[floral locust]

.

Keep making those jokes when I become ur manager 😈😈😈

[prime arch]

hold the dip 🤷‍♂️

[rose holly]

What about Vexor Trading (VT)?

[rose holly]

Two Ligma

[royal forge]

2s

[fair yew]

Google

[rose holly]

2s

[fast gazelle]

both

[elder dawn]

hrt

[rose holly]

imc

[neat junco]

2s no brainer

[nocturne estuary]

My condolences

[nocturne estuary]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ftc-proposes-banning-noncompete-clauses-for-workers-11672900586

The article talks about really severe messed up non competes but the ones for quant are pretty chill

I’m curious about how this may affect finance

[cloud spear]

i hope quant noncompetes stay a thing

I like the idea of garden leave

[final forge]

If it’s for low paid workers like the article suggests, I have my doubts that it will impact quants with crazy comp, and paid garden leave lol

[cloud spear]

fair

[cloud spear]

kinda like how pay transparency is garbage for cs jobs which rely on RSUs

[final forge]

Wait never mind I found the actual proposal and it’s just like nope no noncompetes

https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ftc_gov/pdf/p201000noncompetenprm.pdf

If it actually passes without changes that’s kinda

There’s a public comment period if u want to petition for ur garden leave

[cloud spear]

rip my dreams of quant garden leave before they even started

[final forge]

brb taking garden leave before rule takes affect, getting paid, and then having my noncompete rescinded

[long bloom]

Man really wanted my garden leave

Welp my notice is my garden leave, got 6 months of notice

[broken thorn]

whats the fuckinf point of this industry if theres no garden leave

this would be crazy tho, imagine all the rentechers are free to go

[neat junco]

they didn't even have hc this year for ng

i interviewed and got ghosted for nearly three months

although the feedback was very positive

still no offer in the end

[gentle meadow]

did two sigma have two technical or three technical for final?

i thought it was three but it's two technical in the final

[neat junco]

I think sometimes two sometimes three

dd intern experience was great tho

[gentle meadow]

it was two for me

so it looks i did well enough on two sigma

technical

[shell gazelle]

Do you mind if I DM you?

[broken thorn]

your interest payments alone would be top 10% of national income

[floral locust]

Citsec is higher than base low I thought? Or is it just base for swe

[weary path]

you work at jump? or is there another company doing 2 years now

[floral locust]

Oh weird I think they updated like 1-2 years ago so qr and qt is like 65% of tc now not just base

[gentle meadow]

sure

[gentle meadow]

i didn't get jump lol

[weary path]

wtf thats crazy 😭

[broken thorn]

how do background checks work btw? do institutions contact a school for a transcript, or do they ask us for a transcript?

[weary path]

who else has a 2y non-compete? thats quite crazy tbh

[broken thorn]

rentech is lifetime afaik, and i think radix is pretty long too

[weary path]

wtf

[scarlet vine]

Rentec lifetime is just unless you wanna get a lawyer

Non competes don’t actually hold up in court

You can get out of them

But realistically if you work at Rentec for a few years and get like 1mm in medallion why would you work

I feel like most places are heading towards 2 years soon, I’ve seen a ton of 18 months now, even for swe

[floral locust]

Yea IMC went up to 18 recently I swear last year it was shorter

Unless I’m tripping

[cloud spear]

Tf lifetime??

That's crazy

[scarlet vine]

Yea pretty sure it went 12 to 18 this year

Imc us is 18 months

Yea I asked for 12 when I got mine and pretty much got a no haha

Didn’t seem like they even considered lowering it

[broken thorn]

@floral locust the book is saying with a polar range to bluff at a certain ratio depending on pot and bet size, lets say 1/4 of the time. since I am supposed to bet all the time with a nuts hand, am i supposed to factor in the odds of having the nuts hand into how often i bluff, because that seems hard

like if having 2 pair is 10x liklier than having nothing, then should i bluff only a small fraction of my nothign hands, or should i bluff 1/4 of the nothing hands?

if theyre equally likely then i just bet 100% of my good hands and 1/3 of my bad hands, but if the bad hand is much more likely then im virtually never raising/bluffing

[floral locust]

Yea any well constructed betting range will make opponent indifferent u don’t have to make it too complicated tho

Just bluff more when u have more value lol

And if u don’t rly have any value in the line you’ve taken don’t bluff that much

[broken thorn]

im not sure how to calculate it even qualitatively i mean

like am i folding 80% of the time, value betting 15% of the time, and bluffing 5% of the time?

if odds of a good hand are 15%

[floral locust]

I mean it’s just a game theory principle right

Like u can probably work out the math where if you bet some sizing, what ratio do you need that makes opponent indifferent

Aka unexploitable

[broken thorn]

the math they did says (bet)/(bet+pot)=bluff ratio (at least in their simplified game state)

so if pot is 3 and bet is 1, its 1/4 of the time you bluff

but thats a bit confusing to me i guess because it means you are betting a very small number of hands and folding most of them

i guess thats just how ur supposed to play?

[floral locust]

Wot do u mean by “betting a very small number of hands”

[broken thorn]

a polar range will have most hands be a dud, right?

so if i am bluffing 1/3 of my bets, then that means i am folding the vast majority of my polar ranges

[floral locust]

Ur giving up like some hands yea

I wouldn’t say vast majority tho

[broken thorn]

in a polarized range, most of your hands will be bad, right?

[floral locust]

I wouldn’t say most

Also yea betting a small size with polar range is reet

[broken thorn]

since odds of good are much lower than odds of bad hand, right?

reet?

right?

[floral locust]

Reet as in retarded

I mean sure but your range is pretty condensed preflop

Also u only choose a certain portion of ur range to put into a polar line

[broken thorn]

hmm

i dont think i know enough poker terms to explainw aht i mean

[broken thorn]

do you mean by this, that since you have much lower chance on average of a good hand, that you will only play polar range a small fraction of the time?

and most of the time u dont make it to turn or river?

but making it that far means you are more likely to have a good hand?

[floral locust]

Yea I mean ur range gets condensed when u get to the river

Since ur trash hands just fold flop or turn

[broken thorn]

polar ranges are rare then?

[floral locust]

Yea

[broken thorn]

so optimal poker is a lot of aggressive play pre flop and as u get to river mostly checks because hands are more condensed?

[floral locust]

I wouldn’t rly try and generalize lol

[broken thorn]

im trying to figure out some basis for rules before i deviate

maybe this book is too advanced for my poker knowledge

[floral locust]

If u rly wanna learn u probably just have to spend a thousand hours or so looking at solvers lol

[broken thorn]

i need to know basic general strategy

at least, are hands more polarized the earlier in a hand you are?

[floral locust]

No

[broken thorn]

i dont understand this statmetnt then

[floral locust]

What don’t you understand

[broken thorn]

if its condensed when u get to river, then doesnt that mean its more polar the farther from the river you are?

[floral locust]

What do you think polar means?

[broken thorn]

either good or bad, while condensed means mid

[floral locust]

On earlier streets majority of ur hands are bad yes, but that doesn’t mean u put every bad hand into your polar range. You only select some of them depending on equity, blockers, showdown value, and how much value you have

[broken thorn]

where do i learn half those terms

how much value i have, blockers, etc

oh i see, os a "range" is what hands you are willing to keep playing with?

if theyre mostly all bad then its still condensed?

just condensed around bad?

if someone raises pre flop does that mean polar range?

i think i need a book of the rules of poker or somethign

or the basics of strategy

[floral locust]

🥲🥲🥲

[broken thorn]

lovely

[floral locust]

I think ur also trying to overcomplicte the game lol

[broken thorn]

im trying to get the fundamentals at the moment

[floral locust]

Preflop: play good hands, you can see good hands in chart

3b, 4b really good hands

[broken thorn]

what is 3b 4b

[floral locust]

If you have 3b really good hands you can be exploited by people always folding, so sometimes have bluffs that still have a good amount of equity

Postflop: bet with good hands. Bet really big with really good hands. You can get exploited if you only bet good hands, so bet bad hands too to balance

Pick bad hands such that they have good equity and benefit from folds

[broken thorn]

what makes one bad hand have more equity than anothe rbad hand?

[floral locust]

Flush draws, straight draws

Overcards to the board

[broken thorn]

overcards?

[broken thorn]

makes sense

so a "good" high cards

[floral locust]

Google

[broken thorn]

high card

[floral locust]

He’s skipping the most important process of learning - when you first start playing you deposit onto online site and losing all your moneys cause you suck lol

Me during Covid

[broken thorn]

should i online site

i dont want to lose too much money so im doing a free poker rn

[dapper iris]

free poker is fake ppl just go all in every hand lol

[broken thorn]

which of these and up are considered "good" pre flop

i already knew that one char

i all in every 7 2

[floral locust]

Just look up preflop charts by position lol

[broken thorn]

thank you

[broken thorn]

should i be using online real money poker to get better then?

or convince my friends to line my pocket

[dapper iris]

either just play but expect to lose lol

[broken thorn]

any clue the lower end of "enoug money that ppl will actually care and not all in every time"

[dapper iris]

idk probably .25/.5?

[broken thorn]

sweet thats lower than i expected

[dapper iris]

just my best guess i have no idea

dev would know better prob he's played way more online than i have

[broken thorn]

@floral locust lower end of "people care engouh to try"?

.5/1?

.25/.5?

for online pker

[floral locust]

Lmao those stakes are hard to beat

[broken thorn]

i dont understand this message

are u making a joke, are you saying the stakes have good players at them, or what?

[floral locust]

No, if you can beat those stakes you can become a professional

[broken thorn]

solvers take too long dont they? its not like a chess engine

[broken thorn]

what about 1c/2c? is that too low?

[floral locust]

Yea that’s fine

The rake is pretty troll at those stakes but everyone punts so it’s whatever

[broken thorn]

im not looking to profit rn, im looking to learn

if its a punt fest then i cant relaly learn can i?

[floral locust]

I don’t rly think u learn that much from playing

Compared to just studying

[broken thorn]

didnt we get to the topic of playing because im overcomplicating hte game and dont understand the fundamentals?

[floral locust]

No we talked about playing to troll

[broken thorn]

how am i supposed to study? do i memorize a few pre flop charts, or what?

[snow thorn]

Read grinder’s manual

[floral locust]

Modern poker theory seems like a good book

[snow thorn]

Think its more advanced than GM but yeah

It also covers tournament play

[scarlet vine]

Dm

[weary path]

even people at cit say dont join cit 😂

[cloud spear]

Cit people I've talked to have an undertone of having bad wlb

[weary path]

cit not citsec

[floral locust]

Cit llc qt and qr seem p good

If ur willing to sacrifice wlb for EV

[tulip sapphire]

ah DM'ing on blind is legit

Something i never truly understood: how does taking into accnt the KL div 'distance' make us more "variational" than a regular autoencoder?

like if anything arent we minimizing the difference in distributions (by duality) which means we "vary" less from our priors

i never felt like the name fitted

though i see where it comes from with the stochastic latent space

that the encoder parameterizes

[limber lion]

Does 2sig or JS do off season

[obtuse flame]

JS if it’s your last internship

2 sig never

[storm ember]

How to quant

easiest course of my life

aside from combo

nice blog posts

you curate your content way better than i do

i just stream of consciousness directly into a google doc and copypaste it over

no postprocessing whatsoever

[storm ember]

i have located the pins. maybe i would have passed the optiver 80 in grade 3 but i havent had much need for mental math since

easy if your good at linear algebra, hard if you arent

generally not super interesting as a course

[tulip sapphire]

felt like mindless linalg spam?

or not applicable?

[storm ember]

not really mindless i mean its purposeful but it didnt really get to anything super interesting

[broken thorn]

me only 5th grade

i didnt learn times table till 5grare

[storm ember]

at least in my opinion. ymmv though