#quants-n-traders | cscareers.dev | Page 5

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 1:21 AM

#

oh hm

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 1:21 AM

#

people had different questions I think

old shore Nov 9, 2022, 1:21 AM

#

isnt citadel oa just rng for swe

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 1:21 AM

#

@hallow shoal where are you doing again

#

Wow very cool

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:21 AM

#

oh shoot thanks for reminding me to apply to citadel

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 1:21 AM

#

Get those marbles

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 1:21 AM

#

we will see if I can get Citadel tmmr

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 1:22 AM

#

yeah nice good luck

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 1:22 AM

#

leadership round

#

🤝

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:22 AM

#

fun story: I was in corporate housing for Meta this Summer and 5 people got in the lift including me

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 1:22 AM

#

bless the rng lords. Would have to push citadel to fall though

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:22 AM

#

4 citadel interns

#

I was scared

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 1:22 AM

#

frigid zealot 4 citadel interns

4 ex citadel interns?

#

or same building?

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:22 AM

#

They have cool merch tho

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:22 AM

#

hallow shoal or same building?

same building haha

#

they were interning this Summer

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 1:22 AM

#

oh shit lmao

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 1:23 AM

#

citadel dont blacklist right?

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 1:23 AM

#

If you good enough

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:23 AM

#

i think so; havent heard of them blacklisting

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 1:23 AM

#

citadel will unreject you

#

LOL

#

if you get comepting offerLOL

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 1:23 AM

#

I wanna try an interview BUT idk if ill get past resume screen this year

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:24 AM

#

but is it true that citadel lets go of like 50% of new grads for not meeting bar within 3 months

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 1:24 AM

#

drifting pelican I wanna try an interview BUT idk if ill get past resume screen this year

just apply everywhere

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 1:24 AM

#

frigid zealot but is it true that citadel lets go of like 50% of new grads for not meeting bar...

hmm I heard many firms do before 1 year

#

but before 3 months seems a little scuffed

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 1:24 AM

#

hallow shoal just apply everywhere

okokokokokokokokokok

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:24 AM

#

hallow shoal hmm I heard many firms do before 1 year

wow that's so scary lmao

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 1:24 AM

#

yeah ill apply to a couple just to see how they are

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:24 AM

#

maybe I should just pray I get bloomberg and stay there ahahahah

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 1:27 AM

#

38.46/hr acheived

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 1:27 AM

#

Bloomberg baller

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 1:28 AM

#

hallow shoal hmm I heard many firms do before 1 year

they give insane severance tho i can only assume

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:29 AM

#

I'm very gullible 😦

#

what's the worst

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 1:29 AM

#

hrt too?

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:30 AM

#

I heard Jump is 🔥

#

like amazing

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 1:30 AM

#

Optiver is hire to fire from what i understand

#

Jump won't fire you, they just cut bonus until you leave

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:31 AM

#

don't think it's as well known as hrt and js among cs grads but yea it's really high up there

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 1:31 AM

#

levels is trash now

#

it really is, no severance too

#

but they do pay non compete pay

#

so inaccurate

#

Jump will take you to dinner if they like you

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:32 AM

#

my friend got in but he did competitive programming back in China

#

and was like a regional medalist or something

#

yup apparently it is

#

but I heard it's more solo-play

#

r they real

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 1:33 AM

#

my offer and people's Jump offers were different

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:33 AM

#

cant think of the right term cuz im sleepy but you're more like individually contributing than collaborating compared to other firms

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 1:33 AM

#

no they were different than levels

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 1:34 AM

#

nocturne estuary my offer and people's Jump offers were different

you got jump? full time?

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 1:34 AM

#

drifting pelican you got jump? full time?

no

#

just friends got internm

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 1:34 AM

#

intern?

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:34 AM

#

400k TC is already cracked tho ngl

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 1:34 AM

#

ohh

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:34 AM

#

I wonder how quants ppl save their earnings cuz stonks down low

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 1:34 AM

#

frigid zealot 400k TC is already cracked tho ngl

insane even

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 1:34 AM

#

i did well on jump phone but i did it in Java instead of python or cpp and my interivewer didn't say anything

#

kind of salty about that

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 1:34 AM

#

nocturne estuary i did well on jump phone but i did it in Java instead of python or cpp and my in...

ah i c

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:35 AM

#

isnt quant researcher always harder (in terms of qualifications?) no clue please correct me I may be very wrong

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:35 AM

#

nocturne estuary i did well on jump phone but i did it in Java instead of python or cpp and my in...

is cpp and python the only accepted languages in this industry

#

HRT explicitly told me to code in either cpp or python tho

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 1:36 AM

#

frigid zealot is cpp and python the only accepted languages in this industry

DRW likes Java i think, i was fine in Java for them

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:36 AM

#

nocturne estuary DRW likes Java i think, i was fine in Java for them

I choked on OA

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 1:36 AM

#

oh fucj

lost stratus Nov 9, 2022, 1:36 AM

#

old shore isnt citadel oa just rng for swe

Some people get to skip the oa

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:36 AM

#

2S isnt hiring for london 😦

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 1:36 AM

#

imagine hearing back from 2s though

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 1:36 AM

#

it really is a tech company if they use java KEKW

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:37 AM

#

Try using Hack 😉

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 1:37 AM

#

two Sigma prefers java????

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 1:37 AM

#

it has 0% returns

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 1:37 AM

#

just a prestige thing probably

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 1:37 AM

#

if u want to turn 1 dollar into 1 dollar then invest in 2 sigma

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 1:37 AM

#

Virtu took a loss this last year

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 1:38 AM

#

broken thorn it has 0% returns

no way?

#

interesting

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 1:38 AM

#

does HRT have offices around the world for tax implications

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 1:38 AM

#

https://www.google.com/search?q=two+sigma+returns&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS918US919&oq=two+sigma+returns&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j0i512l2j0i22i30l5j0i390l2.4519j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

#

although making -.36% when the market is -20% is probably impressive

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 1:39 AM

#

yeah I think progression there will be really nice

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 1:40 AM

#

how do i get fang expereience

#

they all reject me

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 1:40 AM

#

350!!!!!!!!!

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 1:40 AM

#

350K is counting sign on isn't it

#

counting sign on is disingenuous IMO

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 1:40 AM

#

350 kinda mid

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 1:40 AM

#

ok this sounds more like it

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 1:40 AM

#

should negotiate

#

amazon sde2 is 300-400k fun fact

#

if u external hire

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 1:41 AM

#

broken thorn amazon sde2 is 300-400k fun fact

huh?

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 1:41 AM

#

paper money means privaet stock

#

monopoly money

#

returning meta intern gets like 80k sign on right

#

wtf

#

3rd world country company

#

worse than amazon

#

free nanas at zon

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 1:45 AM

#

that much for soph interns is so crazy

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 1:45 AM

#

isnt it the same for all interns

#

not just soph

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 1:45 AM

#

nocturne estuary not just soph

yeah

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 1:46 AM

#

oh wow interesting

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 1:46 AM

#

wait really?

#

thats very interesting

#

why do they even bother

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 1:48 AM

#

nocturne estuary my offer and people's Jump offers were different

did they have QR

#

QR pays 60k

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 1:49 AM

#

does ur old company stilll hiring?

#

its a startup right

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 1:49 AM

#

this is exactly how I felt

#

:/

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 1:50 AM

#

hallow shoal QR pays 60k

not these people no

#

i know someone QR from last year

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 1:51 AM

#

PUMP AND DUMP BABY

#

Screen_Shot_2022-11-08_at_8.51.51_PM.png

#

What happened there

#

Lol

#

what happened on that trading day exactly

#

yeh.. but 40% on one call

#

nani

#

truly 😢

#

Grass is always greener

#

oh yeh

#

is aquatic good?

#

sheesh

#

what did you use

#

to negotiate HRT

#

which one 0:

#

0: any reason

#

why HRT

#

instead of more money 🤑

#

not on blog

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 1:57 AM

#

i have question

#

why didnt u negotiate a higher radix offer with ur 3rd best offer and then use the negotiated offer to get even higher hrt

#

or the same starting woth 4th

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 1:59 AM

#

ah good exit opportunity

#

Pog

#

I think

#

HRT caps at like 625

#

but wait

#

you said 500+

#

PepeLaugh

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 2:00 AM

#

broken thorn why didnt u negotiate a higher radix offer with ur 3rd best offer and then use t...

Auction wars

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 2:00 AM

#

its also funny name

#

1/3 of people will think you work for a fishing company and another third will think youre trans

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 2:02 AM

#

ohh is that cause of devops vs swe?

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 2:02 AM

#

broken thorn its also funny name

we like to be on the river

#

ah i see

#

still though

#

"less money"

#

talking about 500k +

#

💀

#

we are trying to compare

#

0.001% vs 0.0000001%

#

Lol

#

yeh...

#

back when I thought faang was the goal

#

...

lost stratus Nov 9, 2022, 2:06 AM

#

Is radix tc interview performance based?

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 2:06 AM

#

the good ol days

lost stratus Nov 9, 2022, 2:07 AM

#

Are their offers standardized?

trim wharf Nov 9, 2022, 2:07 AM

#

@rustic wind soph or junior?

#

i see

#

prev @?

#

junior summer^

lost stratus Nov 9, 2022, 2:08 AM

#

Wait so were any of your offers > 600k?

trim wharf Nov 9, 2022, 2:08 AM

#

Did you have a systems background?

stark crow Nov 9, 2022, 2:09 AM

#

It’s the opposite for me, the girl I’m seeing doesn’t understand why I’m still interviewing and is tryna rein me in so I don’t stress out too much dogesmile

lost stratus Nov 9, 2022, 2:09 AM

#

Iv heard of radix doing 650k+ before, maybe it it is dependent on the person and their backround as well

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 2:09 AM

#

Doubled salary now lmao

#

Tc or gtfo 😤

#

Jkjk

#

Where your bf

#

It’s quant couple

#

OMG

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 2:11 AM

#

quaple

#

what a rare find

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 2:12 AM

#

WHYYY WHYYY

trim wharf Nov 9, 2022, 2:12 AM

#

cs@t5?

frigid zealot Nov 9, 2022, 2:12 AM

#

does hrt/js require work at office

stark crow Nov 9, 2022, 2:12 AM

#

frigid zealot does hrt/js require work at office

JS makes exceptions for certain employees

#

You need to be able to bench 225 tho

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 2:14 AM

#

trim wharf cs@t5?

Check blog

#

I’m a shill for your blog now

#

It’s a quant couple

#

Can’t get over it

#

Earning more tgt

#

Than 99.99%

lost stratus Nov 9, 2022, 2:15 AM

#

The smaller boutique firms dont really have standard offers

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 2:15 AM

#

Of the US

stark crow Nov 9, 2022, 2:15 AM

#

post on cscareers subreddit

#

and watch the comments explode

lost stratus Nov 9, 2022, 2:16 AM

#

Well for example boerboel trading for example can do $700k+ depending on the person so maybe someone who has competing offers or the experience could do it

stark crow Nov 9, 2022, 2:16 AM

#

all the people who think getting over 100k tc is impossible unless you work 80-hour weeks will come out the woodworks

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 2:17 AM

#

Citadel say standard too

#

But it just turns out they have 4 standard packages

#

kekw_recession_edition

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 2:17 AM

#

those people are on another level of cope, they want to justify mediocrity by pretending high pay means u gotta work more hours

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 2:17 AM

#

broken thorn those people are on another level of cope, they want to justify mediocrity by pr...

I mean anybody can do IB

#

Anyone can crunch excel

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 2:18 AM

#

what does it mean to "justify mediocrity" this mindset is garbage

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 2:18 AM

#

For long hours

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 2:18 AM

#

anyone can grind leetcode too

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 2:19 AM

#

nocturne estuary what does it mean to "justify mediocrity" this mindset is garbage

u can decide u dont want to practice for interviews and stuff, but dont act like youre getting the best wlb money can buy

#

u can work under 40/wk at big tech too

#

dont be dishonest tho

#

how much does bain capital pay out of undergrad

#

i have a friend interning there

#

ye

#

where do i find that

#

does pe have levels.fyi?

#

or equivalent

#

so how can i "look into carry"

stark crow Nov 9, 2022, 2:21 AM

#

broken thorn so how can i "look into carry"

h1binfo dogesmile

#

kekw_recession_edition

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 2:22 AM

#

i ask what pe pay is like, you say "look into carry", but thats not an answer. ive seen salary progression in pe but fresh grads dont seem to make crazy money

stark crow Nov 9, 2022, 2:22 AM

#

top g mentality

#

hustler’s university alum right there

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 2:22 AM

#

whats the earning potential

#

yes i know what carry is. im wonderinf what the earning potential is compared to new grad swe for you to talk about it like that

#

sorry if i sounding rude

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 2:24 AM

#

I think finance has much bigger exopoential growth

#

But few years should be lower than quant

#

100%

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 2:25 AM

#

tbh i think i prefer tech and quant even if end pau is lower

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 2:25 AM

#

Just transition to startup

#

And IPO

#

ez

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 2:25 AM

#

even if i cant get 2 yachts and 3 vacation homes i like being able to relax my whole life

#

does PE have opportunity for high performance?

#

cuz ib doesnt afaik

#

from what ive heard thats basically just hours worked buckets

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 2:26 AM

#

This bought to be us all

#

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Rf_yR9KHBuY

YouTube

Colby Martel

Her BILLION Dollar Plan💸 #shorts

I asked students about their financial life goals... full video goes live tomorrow!

▶ Play video

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 2:27 AM

#

she thinks quant in sell side will pay well 💀

#

u cant be billionaire at young age wothout making a starup right

#

no way youre friends with him too?

drifting pelican Nov 9, 2022, 2:31 AM

#

💀

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 2:31 AM

#

alex and me go way back

#

went to the same private preschool

stark crow Nov 9, 2022, 2:33 AM

#

#

Oh I haven’t seen the vid I thought it was some genuine out of touch kid

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 2:35 AM

#

did the tech schools reject you?

#

the tate method

tulip tinsel Nov 9, 2022, 2:47 AM

#

broken thorn u cant be billionaire at young age wothout making a starup right

she wants to make a wind farm startup

tulip tinsel Nov 9, 2022, 2:47 AM

#

lost stratus Well for example boerboel trading for example can do $700k+ depending on the per...

ur not getting 700k bro

#

how much did radix offer u?

#

im the same dude but diff firm

digital bridge Nov 9, 2022, 2:56 AM

#

nyahallo

#

what is Yui CEO of

#

why'd u delete the citadel cocaine vid

#

smh

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 3:11 AM

#

digital bridge why'd u delete the citadel cocaine vid

trim wharf Nov 9, 2022, 3:17 AM

#

Anyone have any experience with hrt phone technical?

tulip tinsel Nov 9, 2022, 4:01 AM

#

have you ever paid taxes?

#

how much do you think you need to make at least per month to spend 15k/mo

#

this is just parent's money

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 4:16 AM

#

help why do i have nost motivation to leetcode 30 mins adter i close my eyes for bed

#

i have an overwhelming urge to solve split array largest sum

royal forge Nov 9, 2022, 4:25 AM

#

broken thorn she thinks quant in sell side will pay well 💀

what does this mean?

flat bear Nov 9, 2022, 4:59 AM

#

What’s quant trading vs quant development?

#

I have video interviews for Akuna capital for both and I don’t really know the difference except that quant development probably has a bit more programming

haughty crater Nov 9, 2022, 7:23 AM

#

for those that did OA’s for trading firms like HRT, IMC, Akuna, etc how would you rank the difficulty compared to FAANG? I worked at AWS and am trying to get into HFT now

jolly bluff Nov 9, 2022, 5:16 PM

#

how do you think someone could study for Quant on their own.

#

I am thinking of switching from software to quant and I didn't take a single math course since my stats course

#

is there any self-study guide you could suggest to switch to quant at a bank instead of hedge funds

jolly bluff Nov 9, 2022, 5:44 PM

#

ey thanks

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 6:55 PM

#

jolly bluff is there any self-study guide you could suggest to switch to quant at a bank ins...

look for green textbooks

#

read all of them

#

by pigeonhole principle you will have read the correct one at least once

#

videos like this almodt make me feel sad, idk if thats the right word

#

but it seems so DOABLE if i had that in an interview

#

i just dont know if i could ever get to the interview itself

#

lol watching someone else ask the same type of stupid clarifying questions i would is funny

#

i would ask doifferent but equally stupid clarifying questions

#

more than they do swes?

#

ooh sick

#

i hear they dont hire many new grad traders tho

#

so prolly want to get in as intern

#

is the process speak to human first round or oa first

floral locust Nov 9, 2022, 7:07 PM

#

broken thorn i hear they dont hire many new grad traders tho

They hire 0 normally

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 7:08 PM

#

like the yt one?

#

yt one doesnt seem too bad

#

there are edge cases but i can work through it i think

#

tbh i might even do a semi brute force strat of
|| calculating ev of playing the game with the greedy strat of rolling till i get at least x on the die and then cashing in the rest of the rounds, then try it for several different values of x till i find a max, only have to try 5 at most cuz can binary search the right x value||

#

i dont think its perfect strat tho because ||there comes a point where u need to change ur plan mid game i think, but there also might not be, depends on risk tolerance||

#

if i got the interview question id speak through yhat and mention my qualms with original strategy, then try to come up with a better one woth the recruiter

#

how hard as an example? as easy as "variance of average of rolling 3 dice" or what

#

yeah i feel like they bait us with these vids, same with their swe one

#

do u mean ev of 3?

#

cuz thats even easier than what i said

rose holly Nov 9, 2022, 7:24 PM

#

I had my second round of HRT Algo Eng New grad role today. I solved the question, but I went overtime by 5 minutes

#

Will that impact my chances of getting the invite for the virtual onsite?

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 7:43 PM

#

@rose holly can i dm you? how far didd u get js

floral locust Nov 9, 2022, 8:03 PM

#

The questions are hard

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 8:03 PM

#

this yt vid question is pretty not hard

#

even the practice imc oa had a much harder question

floral locust Nov 9, 2022, 8:04 PM

#

The later round questions are hard

#

First 2 rounds are p feeder

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 8:04 PM

#

so this is liek a mid round interview?

#

ok im less irritated then

#

if this is something most qualified and eben unqualified ppl are expected to pass then thats fine

floral locust Nov 9, 2022, 8:05 PM

#

You’re irritated an an interview is easy?

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 8:05 PM

#

if an interview is easy then theres bullshit involved

#

like being rejected even if u get the right answer and explain urself well and are friendly

#

if the questions are hard like on the final as you say, then it sounds like biggest hurdle is skill issue rather than luck issue

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 8:06 PM

#

I mean it might be a combo of both

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 8:09 PM

#

but also like how is she making it though final

#

maybe shes acting and pretending to misundestand him?

#

cuz shes obviously cracked to get new grad trader

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 8:11 PM

#

Maybe it’s a we can’t expose real way

floral locust Nov 9, 2022, 8:11 PM

#

She did math competitions in high school

hallow shoal Nov 9, 2022, 8:11 PM

#

😂

tough elm Nov 9, 2022, 8:22 PM

#

Fr what if you fail this interview haha

dim spade Nov 9, 2022, 8:34 PM

#

broken thorn if an interview is easy then theres bullshit involved

thats like a first round interview from what i hear lol

#

and they're just doing it to show you how to ask questions to clarify the problem with your interviewer most likely

#

she was very quick to an actual solution

#

and the mental math was quick lmaoo

tough elm Nov 9, 2022, 8:46 PM

#

Damn you doxxed her already bro?

#

that's true

#

ngl though i didn't expect her to be first

#

since it's a common name

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 8:48 PM

#

obviously speaking will have more clear explanation than writing

#

shes clearly better than she is acting here

#

are you disagreeing that this question is easy compared to how hard it should be to get QT or what?

#

fair, my tone kind of sucks

#

my point is i am at the foot of the mountain for having the skills to get qt

#

and she is very smart to get qt

#

but she seems to be sandbagginf

#

it probably sounded like i was insulting her but i do not mean to be

#

which means shes acting

#

this is true

#

i do think they scripted her misunderstanding question and also the idea of asking that many clarifying questions

nocturne estuary Nov 9, 2022, 9:05 PM

#

broken thorn Nov 9, 2022, 11:20 PM

#

how many hours a day do qts work

pliant axle Nov 9, 2022, 11:26 PM

#

does anyone have any advice for citsec first phone?

broken thorn Nov 10, 2022, 2:35 AM

#

should i be able to solve jane street monthly puzzles

#

some seem super arbitrary

#

actually the current one seems decently doable tho

signal bloom Nov 10, 2022, 4:31 AM

#

Any (2) summer class recommendations for freshmen?
Can't take data structures till next fall.
I'm planning to knock Ds and Algorithms (both) classes in the summer

#

What would be the best thing to do?
(In a T50 lac rn 🤧)

hallow shoal Nov 10, 2022, 4:33 AM

#

Why don’t you just take DS this spring

signal bloom Nov 10, 2022, 4:41 AM

#

They don't offer it in the spring

#

There's a pre-req for the OS class so I will take that

#

This spring

nocturne estuary Nov 10, 2022, 2:51 PM

#

something math if you want to do QT or QR

#

i mean i got asked mathy questions in my SWE interviews too

nocturne estuary Nov 10, 2022, 3:52 PM

#

Jane Street accepting SBF -> … -> FTX blowing up and millions of people being irreparably harmed

#

Jane Street officially L company

long raft Nov 10, 2022, 3:54 PM

#

nocturne estuary Jane Street accepting SBF -> … -> FTX blowing up and millions of people being ir...

Sbf?

nocturne estuary Nov 10, 2022, 3:55 PM

#

Sam Bankman Fried

floral locust Nov 10, 2022, 3:55 PM

#

I started work at alameda this week

#

I had first class tickets

#

The things I know…

#

🤷‍♂️ back to interviews

nocturne estuary Nov 10, 2022, 3:58 PM

#

Wow, there’s no way, that’s crazy

#

Would it even be better to keep it on your résumé at this point?

floral locust Nov 10, 2022, 4:00 PM

#

I never worked there 🤐

hallow shoal Nov 10, 2022, 4:11 PM

#

oh dang

#

SBF worked for JS?

hallow shoal Nov 10, 2022, 4:11 PM

#

nocturne estuary Jane Street accepting SBF -> … -> FTX blowing up and millions of people being ir...

wasn't it because SBF overleveraged like the entire FTX platform?

#

oof

nocturne estuary Nov 10, 2022, 4:18 PM

#

Yeah this was clear fraud

#

Like very illegal stuff

nocturne estuary Nov 10, 2022, 4:19 PM

#

hallow shoal SBF worked for JS?

Yeah four years

#

so did the head of alameda

#

I think he pulled a few JS people

hallow shoal Nov 10, 2022, 4:19 PM

#

welp I guess they made it out like bandits

#

and now their house of cards is collapsing

nocturne estuary Nov 10, 2022, 4:20 PM

#

Honestly this kinda makes JS a lot less cool in my eyes

#

SBF is an idiot

#

The more you learn about him the more it’s just like

#

Seriously this is the guy

hallow shoal Nov 10, 2022, 4:22 PM

#

I mean isn't like quant basically mathmatically gambling in a sense

#

so I guess they just had shit models of crypto lol.

#

but yeh its regular people who hold the bag

floral locust Nov 10, 2022, 4:23 PM

#

alameda trading was good

#

they just lost money through a lot of other means

#

if they just stuck to trading they could've just consistently made like 1 bil/year

#

there's a lot more to the story i'm not comfortable talking about but

#

the majority of the alameda team were good traders/quants that were making +EV profitable trades and were unaware of the situation

#

there was a lot of other stuff that caused the big balance hole sheet

#

but it wasn't cause we gambled away the users money from trading

broken thorn Nov 10, 2022, 5:31 PM

#

dunning kruger effect is fake everyone is overconfident even if ur actually qualified

nocturne estuary Nov 10, 2022, 5:31 PM

#

People who mention Dunning-Kruger are actually Dunning-Kruger, no layperson really knows what’s going on and we can all piece together what we’ve heard or you can be a dick about it to stroke your ego

obtuse flame Nov 10, 2022, 5:59 PM

#

@floral locust https://www.coppolacomment.com/2022/11/the-ftx-alameda-nexus.html?utm_source=pocket_saves&m=1 how good is this article?

The FTX-Alameda nexus

round mirage Nov 10, 2022, 6:04 PM

#

you riding tip bad sadly

broken thorn Nov 10, 2022, 6:19 PM

#

always be confidently correct and confidently incorrect to keep people guessing

lost stratus Nov 10, 2022, 6:22 PM

#

nocturne estuary Jane Street accepting SBF -> … -> FTX blowing up and millions of people being ir...

How were people harmed from it?

tulip tinsel Nov 10, 2022, 6:25 PM

#

floral locust there's a lot more to the story i'm not comfortable talking about but

the NDA cant be enforced anymore

#

so you can spill

nocturne estuary Nov 10, 2022, 6:26 PM

#

lost stratus How were people harmed from it?

people lost money, the exchange blocked withdrawals and right now it isn't clear whether users will get their money back

tulip tinsel Nov 10, 2022, 6:26 PM

#

from my understanding they just traded with customer assets

nocturne estuary Nov 10, 2022, 6:26 PM

#

I think it was using the FTT token as collateral that caused the initial issue though

tulip tinsel Nov 10, 2022, 6:26 PM

#

and collateralized the loan for trading with FTT token

#

yeah

#

and FTT token went down so they are undercollateralized, people find out -> bank run

nocturne estuary Nov 10, 2022, 6:27 PM

#

yeah that's my understanding too

lost stratus Nov 10, 2022, 6:27 PM

#

tulip tinsel and collateralized the loan for trading with FTT token

Wait so did anything happen to FTT?

nocturne estuary Nov 10, 2022, 6:27 PM

#

lost stratus Wait so did anything happen to FTT?

its like worthless now

#

i think

#

SBF posted an apology tweet but honestly it's pathetic

fast gazelle Nov 10, 2022, 6:28 PM

#

eat the rich

#

https://tenor.com/view/gnam-gnam-nom-nom-eat-munch-chew-gif-12554869

Tenor

nocturne estuary Nov 10, 2022, 6:28 PM

#

eat vexor

fast gazelle Nov 10, 2022, 6:29 PM

#

https://tenor.com/view/gnam-gnam-nom-nom-eat-munch-chew-gif-12554869

Tenor

lost stratus Nov 10, 2022, 6:29 PM

#

nocturne estuary its like worthless now

I see, what exactly caused this?

nocturne estuary Nov 10, 2022, 6:29 PM

#

lost stratus I see, what exactly caused this?

well there is no inherent value right so its just what people think it's worth

hallow shoal Nov 10, 2022, 6:29 PM

#

wait didn't like bianace nuke ftt by liquidating their assets?

nocturne estuary Nov 10, 2022, 6:29 PM

#

hallow shoal wait didn't like bianace nuke ftt by liquidating their assets?

i think so

hallow shoal Nov 10, 2022, 6:29 PM

#

which sent theentire crypto economy to boom

round mirage Nov 10, 2022, 6:29 PM

#

Trading crypto is a ponzi scheme

tulip tinsel Nov 10, 2022, 6:30 PM

#

lost stratus Wait so did anything happen to FTT?

ftt just went down cuz crypto went down in general

hallow shoal Nov 10, 2022, 6:30 PM

#

round mirage Trading crypto is a ponzi scheme

just got banned from every crypto firm lmao XD

tulip tinsel Nov 10, 2022, 6:30 PM

#

im sure at tthe top

#

it was fine

round mirage Nov 10, 2022, 6:30 PM

#

hallow shoal just got banned from every crypto firm lmao XD

i should preface coinbase rejected me

tulip tinsel Nov 10, 2022, 6:30 PM

#

probablyl overcolalteralized

#

By Wednesday, Bankman-Fried told investors that the company was facing a shortfall of at least $8 billion and needed emergency funding, according to a person familiar with the matter.

#

holy fuck

#

they are 8 billion in the hole

#

lmao

nocturne estuary Nov 10, 2022, 6:32 PM

#

sadge

#

i think there is no way he is getting away with this

#

enough rich people are mad

#

i dunno i have belief

floral locust Nov 10, 2022, 6:33 PM

#

he's probably fine if he didn't touch ftx us funds

broken thorn Nov 10, 2022, 6:33 PM

#

nocturne estuary I think it was using the FTT token as collateral that caused the initial issue t...

fast tourier transform

tulip tinsel Nov 10, 2022, 6:34 PM

#

floral locust he's probably fine if he didn't touch ftx us funds

wait can you epxlain it more

round mirage Nov 10, 2022, 6:34 PM

#

is binance okay

tulip tinsel Nov 10, 2022, 6:34 PM

#

are the undercollateralized bc FTT went down?

#

if alameda makes +EV trades

#

the money is all still there right

#

where did the money go

floral locust Nov 10, 2022, 6:37 PM

#

various illiquid assets invested in, bad loans given out to liquidated parties, overspending from ftx

tulip tinsel Nov 10, 2022, 6:38 PM

#

so let's say they declare bankruptcy, the illiquid stuff should eventually be liquidated .. right (unless by illiquid you mean stakes in now defunct crypto startups )

#

but ig the bad loans cant be gotten back

hallow shoal Nov 10, 2022, 6:38 PM

#

the illiquid stuff should eventually be liquidated

tulip tinsel Nov 10, 2022, 6:38 PM

#

depends on what illiquid means

hallow shoal Nov 10, 2022, 6:38 PM

#

illiquid means can't liquidate

#

someone would be holding the largest bag on earth

tulip tinsel Nov 10, 2022, 6:39 PM

#

is it a 10% stake in an inflated crypto valuation

#

or like just some secure loan

hallow shoal Nov 10, 2022, 6:39 PM

#

idk 🤷‍♂️

floral locust Nov 10, 2022, 6:39 PM

#

well a lot of illiquid assets went to 0

tulip tinsel Nov 10, 2022, 6:39 PM

#

rip

floral locust Nov 10, 2022, 6:39 PM

#

and yea staking is hard to get out of

tulip tinsel Nov 10, 2022, 6:39 PM

#

staking trends down right

floral locust Nov 10, 2022, 6:39 PM

#

idk

tulip tinsel Nov 10, 2022, 6:39 PM

#

i feel like staking is just a ponzi scheme

#

i mean it is

#

they dont hide it

broken thorn Nov 10, 2022, 6:43 PM

#

whats staking

rose holly Nov 10, 2022, 6:44 PM

#

locking up your tokens in a pool to collect interest from others borrowing from the pool

broken thorn Nov 10, 2022, 6:45 PM

#

lmao

#

cd but no fractional reserve

tulip tinsel Nov 10, 2022, 6:45 PM

#

rose holly locking up your tokens in a pool to collect interest from others borrowing from ...

ok the important factor here is

#

that the borrowed money is just leveraged into the coin that is tied to ur staking or whatever

#

when a bank lends out moeny people do productive thigns wit hit

#

like build homes or start companies

#

crypto lenders just use it to pump the same crypto again

rose holly Nov 10, 2022, 6:48 PM

#

yeah like every crypto project i’ve seen

#

that adds value

#

is just making it easier for financial speculation

burnt lark Nov 10, 2022, 6:49 PM

#

How does crypto come back from this

#

It’s just so shady man

rose holly Nov 10, 2022, 6:49 PM

#

defi apparently

tulip tinsel Nov 10, 2022, 6:50 PM

#

yeah this is defi, but it's still bad for even legit crytpo projects

#

i think eth/btc/usdc/etc are pretty legit

#

and have genuine uses

#

like forex, drugs, hiding assets from divorce attorneys, sports betting, onlyfans

#

i mean they are genuine in the fact that these are value generating uses (not ponzi schemes)

bright flame Nov 10, 2022, 6:56 PM

#

I love crypto!!!

rose holly Nov 10, 2022, 6:56 PM

#

also just like

#

defi is the main value of crypto

#

presumably users of defi want a trustless system

floral locust Nov 10, 2022, 6:57 PM

#

yes but people are reets

rose holly Nov 10, 2022, 6:57 PM

#

but most people are trusting

floral locust Nov 10, 2022, 6:57 PM

#

so they won't use defi

rose holly Nov 10, 2022, 6:57 PM

#

even those in crypto

#

as seen in the bagholders of ftx

floral locust Nov 10, 2022, 6:57 PM

#

where u actually have to know what ur doing to navigate the space

rose holly Nov 10, 2022, 6:57 PM

#

yeah i'm a reet too i can't be bothered to store all my keys

floral locust Nov 10, 2022, 6:57 PM

#

this chat is now tqd lol

#

@unkempt viper get back in here

bright flame Nov 10, 2022, 6:57 PM

#

I will say that FTX was one of the least sus exchanges that had come out in a while

rose holly Nov 10, 2022, 6:57 PM

#

even if like metamask

#

helps with that

bright flame Nov 10, 2022, 6:57 PM

#

Expected this shit from like kucoin or something

rose holly Nov 10, 2022, 6:57 PM

#

or whatever wallet

#

it's just inconvenient

bright flame Nov 10, 2022, 6:58 PM

#

Yo @rose holly where you headed next year

rose holly Nov 10, 2022, 6:58 PM

#

i'll dm

bright flame Nov 10, 2022, 6:59 PM

#

Damn 02 just told me he's heading to this small place called Alameda

#

Wild

rose holly Nov 10, 2022, 6:59 PM

#

f

floral locust Nov 10, 2022, 6:59 PM

#

fu

broken thorn Nov 10, 2022, 7:01 PM

#

the real question is will tsm still be called tsm ftx

bright flame Nov 10, 2022, 7:01 PM

#

Gotta change all their branding back

broken thorn Nov 10, 2022, 7:02 PM

#

#

oh this sounds less bad

#

it only affects people from bad countries (not america)

hallow shoal Nov 10, 2022, 7:04 PM

#

broken thorn

lol you are using miniplayer to watch

#

ex staff engineer from FB

#

rahul

broken thorn Nov 10, 2022, 7:06 PM

#

hallow shoal lol you are using miniplayer to watch

always

#

youtube vanced

rose holly Nov 10, 2022, 7:06 PM

#

broken thorn it only affects people from bad countries (not america)

eh americans were def using ftx.com

broken thorn Nov 10, 2022, 7:06 PM

#

is ftx.com international?

#

whats the us one

rose holly Nov 10, 2022, 7:06 PM

#

ftx.us

#

ftx.com had lower fees, more coins

#

could use ftt i think

broken thorn Nov 10, 2022, 7:07 PM

#

oh ok

#

nvm

#

fast tourier transform

old shore Nov 10, 2022, 7:07 PM

#

ftx.us is still processing withdrawals right

#

oh looks like it

tulip tinsel Nov 10, 2022, 7:09 PM

#

ftx.us is also shuttign down

old shore Nov 10, 2022, 7:20 PM

#

not surprising LMAO

tulip tinsel Nov 10, 2022, 7:27 PM

#

crytpto is dead

#

happylol

magic swan Nov 10, 2022, 7:37 PM

#

this has its own chat now? pkingOwO

nocturne estuary Nov 10, 2022, 8:09 PM

#

Let’s see if FTX is still on the Mercedes car this Sunday

#

WazowskiStare

stark crow Nov 10, 2022, 8:12 PM

#

LOL

#

Merc scrambling to change the decals

hallow shoal Nov 10, 2022, 8:18 PM

#

nocturne estuary Let’s see if FTX is still on the Mercedes car this Sunday

they still have this months sponsership contract money lmao

#

next month though its a gg

nocturne estuary Nov 10, 2022, 8:20 PM

#

But like probably a bad look to have it on the car I dunno

scenic bison Nov 10, 2022, 8:40 PM

#

COINBASE ON TOP

#

COINBASE TO THE MOON

broken thorn Nov 10, 2022, 8:58 PM

#

testing

#

whoa

#

slash me italicizes

stark crow Nov 10, 2022, 9:50 PM

#

What if merc don’t win bc of FTX PepeHands

sand willow Nov 10, 2022, 10:15 PM

#

FTX is

#

ggwp

#

dude i feel like binance pulled out of the deal only to make people lose even more trust in FTX

#

and for price to fall even further

#

like they'll rebuy

#

CZ is pulling an elon musk

nocturne estuary Nov 10, 2022, 10:23 PM

#

stark crow What if merc don’t win bc of FTX <:PepeHands:748767514716274789>

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

#

fast gazelle Nov 11, 2022, 12:34 AM

#

testing

#

!poll ban jane street

nocturne estuary Nov 11, 2022, 1:05 AM

#

sad

rapid cargo Nov 11, 2022, 3:41 AM

#

salam

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 4:11 AM

#

im not ok n3

#

im not at js

#

i was at alameda starting this week

#

i am not anymore

#

read the news

drowsy scroll Nov 11, 2022, 6:41 AM

#

floral locust i was at alameda starting this week

Jesus bro

crystal apex Nov 11, 2022, 7:16 AM

#

#2022_summer message

#

tb

#

lol

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 2:22 PM

#

do u get severance devg

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 2:23 PM

#

no

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 2:24 PM

#

wtf

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 2:24 PM

#

i didn't even get my flights comped

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 2:24 PM

#

wtfwtf

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 2:24 PM

#

i need you guys to channel me good vibes when i interview for jump, hrt, cit, headlands these coming weeks

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 2:25 PM

#

for sure

lost stratus Nov 11, 2022, 2:52 PM

#

#

1.1m tc, 800k recurring GIVE_JOB

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 2:55 PM

#

surprised hrt is that low

#

2s lolol

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 3:35 PM

#

i need to learn how to code in like 1-2 weeks

#

and how to math

lost stratus Nov 11, 2022, 3:36 PM

#

csmajors

#

https://discord.gg/X37nApas, they have a quant channel too if you want to advertise your blog

Discord

Discord | Your Place to Talk and Hang Out

Discord is the easiest way to talk over voice, video, and text. Talk, chat, hang out, and stay close with your friends and communities.

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 3:41 PM

#

floral locust i need to learn how to code in like 1-2 weeks

😂

lost stratus Nov 11, 2022, 3:42 PM

#

Doable

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 4:47 PM

#

any "quick learners" here?

#

i guess i can be considered one, sometimes it feels immoral to take advantage of it tho. like in algo lab i would just say to my friend "just tell me the solution to the problem and ill reverse engineer wtf is happening"

#

and thats usually bad practice, cuz if someone tells u the answer that means u arent learning right?

#

but of u can get away with it then it shouldnt really be a problem

#

has anyone thought about this

crystal apex Nov 11, 2022, 4:50 PM

#

DAE know the answer if someone tells them the answer?? PepeLaugh

#

wtf are you saying king

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 4:52 PM

#

whats dae

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 4:54 PM

#

crystal apex DAE know the answer if someone tells them the answer?? <:PepeLaugh:747509249558...

i know the method to get the answer from the answe is what i mean

#

rather than learning the method

#

and using it to get the answer

crystal apex Nov 11, 2022, 4:56 PM

#

broken thorn i know the method to get the answer from the answe is what i mean

yea me too

#

working backwards from the answer is so much easier

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 5:03 PM

#

semi related how much of ur leetcoding this summer was looking at the solution vs spending an hour or a few days thinking about it @rustic wind

#

ok that makes sense

#

i like spending an hour or 2 sometimes to come up with on my own

#

but probably shouldnt do for all

#

rn ive been thinking of how to do the divide chocolates for a few days off and on lol

old shore Nov 11, 2022, 5:15 PM

#

I find that reverse engineering and generative thinking from problem statement -> solution rather than the other way around require two different but related skillsets

#

best to have both in your back pocket imo

#

def relate tho, reverse engineering is super appealing and i have to actively prevent myself from doing it more than i should lol

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 5:33 PM

#

lots take 2 sigma over citadel

#

thats a cold take

drowsy spindle Nov 11, 2022, 5:37 PM

#

Curious what is the tier list for trading

#

Where do schonfeld and two sig and sig fall into?

old shore Nov 11, 2022, 5:38 PM

#

not that ill ever be in the position to do so, but yea id also take most trading firms over citadel lol

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 5:38 PM

#

sig is high for trading compared to swe

drowsy spindle Nov 11, 2022, 5:40 PM

#

old shore not that ill ever be in the position to do so, but yea id also take most trading...

How come?

drowsy spindle Nov 11, 2022, 5:41 PM

#

broken thorn sig is high for trading compared to swe

How come?

#

Sorry guys, I’m new to the space

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 5:41 PM

#

drowsy spindle How come?

intern pay is 100/hr

#

and also u get lik 20k bonus

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 5:42 PM

#

sig values traders much higher than swes

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 5:42 PM

#

hiring bar is also comparatively low for that pay (i got DESTROYED by the oa tho, its still super hard to get)

versed tusk Nov 11, 2022, 5:43 PM

#

what’s sig swe intern pay?

old shore Nov 11, 2022, 5:44 PM

#

drowsy spindle How come?

I want to go into trading because I find the problem space interesting and I want a career that combines math/programming/ml. pay is a factor obviously but it's not my #1 priority and if im good enough to get into citadel, im good enough to get into other firms that would allow me to do the same without the levels of stress that citadel seems to put on the ppl working there

#

tl;dr citadel bad working environment (even relative to other firms), not worth the pay

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 5:45 PM

#

versed tusk what’s sig swe intern pay?

about 50/hr i think

#

but its still a good name

#

someone i know went sig intern->cit full time

versed tusk Nov 11, 2022, 5:45 PM

#

sheesh

#

that makes me feel a bit better about my chances tho lol

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 5:46 PM

#

are you taking sig?

versed tusk Nov 11, 2022, 5:46 PM

#

i did the phone interview yesterday and I was looking at their “gaming blog” and saw that their interns are chess gms and shit

old shore Nov 11, 2022, 5:46 PM

#

oh wasnt andrew tang an intern for SIG

versed tusk Nov 11, 2022, 5:46 PM

#

yeah I think that guy

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 5:46 PM

#

sig trader yeah

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 5:46 PM

#

he's going there ft

old shore Nov 11, 2022, 5:46 PM

#

that man is a god

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 5:47 PM

#

hes decent at puzzles

old shore Nov 11, 2022, 5:47 PM

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWgvtg359HU&ab_channel=Chessclips

YouTube

Chess clips

Andrew Tang beats Leela Chess Zero [Ultrabullet]

▶ Play video

#

one of my favorite chess vids of all time

#

interning there seems to be a good exp

#

it's just full time

#

a place i interned at had a person who worked for jump for the better part of a decade or so

#

i asked him his #1 piece of advice

#

it deadass was

#

"do not work for citadel"

#

LMAO

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 5:51 PM

#

old shore "do not work for citadel"

gg

#

thats if 2 sigma ever respond

#

😭

#

citadel or optiver intern both swe

old shore Nov 11, 2022, 5:52 PM

#

swe or trader

#

good luck!!!

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 5:54 PM

#

how to be goated like you prayge

#

i'm curious

#

what is everyones opinion on reneg

#

in quant

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 5:55 PM

#

old shore https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWgvtg359HU&ab_channel=Chessclips

love this vid

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 5:55 PM

#

what now

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 5:55 PM

#

he also has 100k score in aimlabs gridshot (basically a fps pro's score)

#

and >120 in zetamac high score

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 5:55 PM

#

sounds good. Got rejected now what

#

Lol

versed tusk Nov 11, 2022, 5:55 PM

#

did anyone do imc quant trading intern recording interview thing?

#

recorded*

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 5:56 PM

#

does that even work

#

I thought they rejected

old shore Nov 11, 2022, 5:57 PM

#

broken thorn and >120 in zetamac high score

rip i have 90 and i think that's where im hardcapped without rote memorization of answers

#

it's not worth grinding for a higher score at that point tho LOL

drowsy spindle Nov 11, 2022, 5:57 PM

#

broken thorn intern pay is 100/hr

Wait at SIG???

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 5:57 PM

#

old shore rip i have 90 and i think that's where im hardcapped without rote memorization o...

thats way better than u need

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 5:57 PM

#

drowsy spindle Wait at SIG???

trader only

drowsy spindle Nov 11, 2022, 5:57 PM

#

That’s for trader or swe

#

Oh

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 5:58 PM

#

ur never gonna get fucked for aving "only" 90

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 5:58 PM

#

is citadel and optiver good enough 😭

drowsy spindle Nov 11, 2022, 5:58 PM

#

Bro cause I just destroyed that OA

#

I was gonna say

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 5:58 PM

#

last year someone had HRT retunr and got resume reject from

drowsy spindle Nov 11, 2022, 5:58 PM

#

But it was for swe

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 5:58 PM

#

JS

#

F

#

wish I was better

#

so I wouldn't have been rejected by

#

all resume places

#

:((

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 6:00 PM

#

same

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 6:01 PM

#

JS couple WHYYY . the potential WHYYY

#

WHYYY

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 6:02 PM

#

i mean hrt x js is preferable right? it's bad to have couples in the same workplace

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 6:02 PM

#

true true

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 6:02 PM

#

it's also good since now you're forced to not talk about work outside of work

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 6:02 PM

#

you two can afford a bigger room with that cash

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 6:03 PM

#

floral locust it's also good since now you're forced to not talk about work outside of work

nice forced work life balance

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 6:04 PM

#

ideal couple is one works in quant finance the other is in academia

#

u both live vicariously though each other and the finance person means u have money to afford rent

#

ur the finance one

#

find urself a man who did phd instead of industry and u wont have to deal with the phd process

#

win iwn

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 6:06 PM

#

or just don't waste time on a 5 year CS phd

#

Lol. Although def something I've thought about

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 6:06 PM

#

if u wnat to do academia phd is not waste

#

its required

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 6:06 PM

#

yeh.. the Opportunity cost just isn't worth it imo

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 6:07 PM

#

if money isnt an object then phd is certainly worth it

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 6:07 PM

#

you don't go into research for the money

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 6:07 PM

#

if you enjoy the subject

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 6:07 PM

#

broken thorn ideal couple is one works in quant finance the other is in academia

in this silly hypothetical money isnt an issue anyways

#

since ur partner rakin in the dough

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 6:09 PM

#

already has a man >.> bag and everything 0:

#

true true

#

go back to academia once you got the bag

#

0:

stark crow Nov 11, 2022, 6:30 PM

#

My ex is in med school PepeHands

#

Was planning on living my surgeon dreams vivaciously thru her

#

Autocorrect PepeHands

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 6:33 PM

#

stark crow My ex is in med school <:PepeHands:748767514716274789>

ex though :((

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 6:34 PM

#

i used to be pre med

#

first 2 years college

#

then i switched to math+cs

flat zenith Nov 11, 2022, 6:42 PM

#

Anyone know what the IMC quant trader intern process is like?

drowsy spindle Nov 11, 2022, 6:53 PM

#

floral locust i used to be pre med

same

#

switched to cs, if i could do it again cs and stats

#

what is the process like for sig swe?

versed tusk Nov 11, 2022, 7:00 PM

#

flat zenith Anyone know what the IMC quant trader intern process is like?

first I got an OA, I passed the OA and now I have to do a recorded video interview, idk what comes next

flat zenith Nov 11, 2022, 7:00 PM

#

versed tusk first I got an OA, I passed the OA and now I have to do a recorded video intervi...

Any tips to prepare for OA?

versed tusk Nov 11, 2022, 7:01 PM

#

hmm

#

might help to review combinatorics and basic probability but it wasn’t too bad

old shore Nov 11, 2022, 7:04 PM

#

versed tusk first I got an OA, I passed the OA and now I have to do a recorded video intervi...

recorded video interview is 4 behavioral 2 technical btw, you have a minute to do the two technical qs

#

iirc you asked about it earlier

versed tusk Nov 11, 2022, 7:05 PM

#

old shore recorded video interview is 4 behavioral 2 technical btw, you have a minute to d...

thanks

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 7:05 PM

#

whats recs?

old shore Nov 11, 2022, 7:05 PM

#

wait wtf you have to have two letters of recommendation for radix?

#

💀

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 7:06 PM

#

There’s only room for 1 uchicago interning at radix @rose holly

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 7:06 PM

#

what what?

crystal apex Nov 11, 2022, 7:07 PM

#

who are the rec letters from?? math professors?

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 7:07 PM

#

did you just get them from profs?

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 7:07 PM

#

Shhhhh

#

Lmao

#

Can u refer me?

#

Rip

#

I’m unemployed tho

#

Headlands also claims 45-50

lost stratus Nov 11, 2022, 7:08 PM

#

why does that mean no refer?

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 7:08 PM

#

the engineers I talked to citadel said 40 🤣

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 7:08 PM

#

I’m a masochist

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 7:08 PM

#

"bs meter broke"

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 7:08 PM

#

I want sweatshop

#

I have like a 3% of getting algo dev

#

No

#

😭

#

No

#

I didn’t get return bruh

old shore Nov 11, 2022, 7:09 PM

#

were u the same person that went from valkyrie -> jane street

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 7:09 PM

#

55

old shore Nov 11, 2022, 7:09 PM

#

ok yea i thought i remembered from quant server but wasnt sure

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 7:09 PM

#

I’m trader

old shore Nov 11, 2022, 7:10 PM

#

RIP rng

#

in general, was interning after ur senior yr stressful

lost stratus Nov 11, 2022, 7:10 PM

#

are there any small shops besides radix, tgs, pdt, ansatz,vatic, headlands, aquatic?

old shore Nov 11, 2022, 7:11 PM

#

i was kinda considering it but decided not worth

drowsy spindle Nov 11, 2022, 7:11 PM

#

do you know if two sig allows for fall or spring

#

i see

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 7:11 PM

#

2sig is low tier for n3

drowsy spindle Nov 11, 2022, 7:12 PM

#

respect

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 7:13 PM

#

would you recommend taking a fall internship?

#

do you think a fall internship preventsyou from recruiting

#

or nah

#

just curious

#

i'm wondering about the purpose of fall internships

#

if you do JS next summer (get return) you won't get a competiting cit sec offer until december right?

#

so I guess doesn't that prevent you from recruiting for citadel and competing?

#

i guess for like other companies

#

I meant

#

geniunely curious. I might be in a similar situation so was wondering your thoughts

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 7:15 PM

#

why does js not negotiate even for similar tier companies? that seems like a poor strategy

#

whod pick js over hrt if hrt negotiates and js doesnt

#

oh btw n3 are u a swe or quant? if quant trader/researcher how many hours a week u work

crystal apex Nov 11, 2022, 7:16 PM

#

does the wlb vary massively between swe vs quant even in the same company?

hallow shoal Nov 11, 2022, 7:18 PM

#

prob true

#

suffering from success

#

any reason you decided to take citadel fall?

#

just for another internship?

#

https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

Tenor

#

only for FT to be like

#

even for fall?

#

this is something I thought of but you can't even negotiate with it cause you won't get it till december right? You will be done recruiting by then?

#

wait could you elaborate a little? don't you not get the return until the end?

rose holly Nov 11, 2022, 7:34 PM

#

@rose holly yo can i ask u smth in dms

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 7:37 PM

#

Hrt is 435 starting for core, is algo eng higher @rose holly ?

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 7:47 PM

#

my crystal ball says yes

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 7:54 PM

#

I mean based on priors it seems reasonable like 80% that it’s higher

#

It’s almost certainly close to 0 that it’d be lower

#

Good to get exact amounts tho

#

Somewhere in the realm of 475 seems reasonable

#

Wot

#

I did 25 lc on the plane

#

My eyes are bloodshot now

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 7:56 PM

#

lol

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 7:56 PM

#

I cheated tho

#

They were all dp or algos

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 7:57 PM

#

ye u gotta study the hard stuff not that

#

learn the data structurey ones like stacks and sliding window

#

dp and algos is easy

#

how the fucm do you do monotonic stcak???

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 7:57 PM

#

Graphs r hard

#

String stuff is hard

#

Bit stuff is hard

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 7:59 PM

#

devgs dififculty ranking is prob not dp angos as high

#

cuz devg does math

#

so data structures is what devg shud focus on imo

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 7:59 PM

#

broken thorn cuz devg does math

Meth

#

I’m glad alameda blew up

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 7:59 PM

#

silly stuff like lru cavhe

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 7:59 PM

#

I was boutta become an adderall addict

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 7:59 PM

#

why not become one anyways

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 8:00 PM

#

Data structures r ez

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 8:00 PM

#

go to the doctor and ask for a prescription

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 8:00 PM

#

Trie

rose holly Nov 11, 2022, 8:02 PM

#

floral locust Nov 11, 2022, 8:05 PM

#

https://mobile.twitter.com/tackettzane/status/1590850272766607360

Zane Tackett (@tackettzane)

@RayRaspberry1 A lot. Including by me

Likes

233

#

https://mobile.twitter.com/tackettzane/status/1590870555527630848

Zane Tackett (@tackettzane)

@ave_crypto @liujackc @RayRaspberry1 worked like 9am-2am 6 days a week usually.

#

Decent wlb

broken thorn Nov 11, 2022, 9:01 PM

#

rose holly

this is so true its unreal

crystal apex Nov 11, 2022, 11:35 PM

#

Screen_Shot_2022-11-11_at_5.34.53_PM.png

lost stratus Nov 11, 2022, 11:40 PM

#

crystal apex

what is wrong with java

fast gazelle Nov 12, 2022, 12:19 AM

#

two sigma uses it

celest anvil Nov 12, 2022, 1:18 AM

#

Imc as well

tulip sapphire Nov 12, 2022, 1:44 AM

#

broken thorn whats dae

denoising autoencoder?

#

oh nvm

broken thorn Nov 12, 2022, 1:48 AM

#

tulip sapphire denoising autoencoder?

does anyone else

tulip sapphire Nov 12, 2022, 1:48 AM

#

ohhh

#

lmao ML classes have gotten to me fr

#

did no else read that as an autoencoder?

tough elm Nov 12, 2022, 1:57 AM

#

broken thorn does anyone else

maybe it's "does anyone else"? i'm not sure

drowsy spindle Nov 12, 2022, 1:59 AM

#

i would like to ask you some more about this, dm please!

broken thorn Nov 12, 2022, 2:15 AM

#

tough elm maybe it's "does anyone else"? i'm not sure

does anyone else

tough elm Nov 12, 2022, 2:15 AM

#

ha

#

yeah anyone else?

rose holly Nov 12, 2022, 3:06 AM

#

it won't matter at all

floral locust Nov 12, 2022, 3:07 AM

#

rose holly it won't matter at all

How do I get into qualtrics

floral locust Nov 12, 2022, 3:07 AM

#

rose holly it won't matter at all

Does PhD matter?

rose holly Nov 12, 2022, 3:07 AM

#

yeah phd is needed

#

cya in 5 years

floral locust Nov 12, 2022, 3:08 AM

#

Math is 7

rose holly Nov 12, 2022, 3:13 AM

#

u seem smart

#

can speed run it

broken thorn Nov 12, 2022, 3:21 AM

#

shouldnt speedrun phd

#

the poitn of a phd isnt to finish as soon as u can

next girder Nov 12, 2022, 2:40 PM

#

floral locust Math is 7

Thats not true

lapis marsh Nov 12, 2022, 6:13 PM

#

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9OMwvGzlYng

YouTube

Lucy

A PACKED day in the life of a software engineer at Two Sigma #tech ...

▶ Play video

#

Is this real

autumn mango Nov 12, 2022, 9:49 PM

#

a little bit of knowledge is always good but they will 95% not ask u trading stuff

broken thorn Nov 12, 2022, 10:49 PM

#

@rustic wind how hard did ur technical interviews get? was it just a bunch of LC hards that u had to ace, or was it more forgiving?

broken thorn Nov 12, 2022, 11:25 PM

#

ok!

broken thorn Nov 13, 2022, 8:28 PM

#

im drawing a blank, how do you find the standard deviation of the average of rolling n dice?

#

its supposed to decrease as u approach high value of n of course

#

nvm found it

#

divide by sqrt N

#

because std deviation scales with sqrt of number of rolls

little shale Nov 13, 2022, 11:50 PM

#

does anyone know if sig final is panel interview ?

lapis marsh Nov 14, 2022, 4:34 AM

#

👀

tough sand Nov 14, 2022, 4:35 AM

#

Tf r u saying

celest anvil Nov 14, 2022, 4:35 AM

#

This is very disrespectful

tough sand Nov 14, 2022, 4:37 AM

#

Nah bro it ain’t it

#

It was an accident but idk if ur trying he edgy or smth

#

Yeah cuz that’s what she filmed

nocturne estuary Nov 14, 2022, 4:40 AM

#

damn it

#

i was gonna do that

#

after some more popcorn

#

@stark crow

#

no stop i wanna be the reason

#

fine krishna you win

tough sand Nov 14, 2022, 4:42 AM

#

Imagine coming here to see this mofo

obtuse flame Nov 14, 2022, 4:46 AM

#

What happened?

#

thumbsupcat

nocturne estuary Nov 14, 2022, 4:49 AM

#

i hate quant people lets subvert expectations and make this channel a chill place

broken thorn Nov 14, 2022, 4:49 AM

#

why be sexist ehen u cab be not

nocturne estuary Nov 14, 2022, 4:50 AM

#

my friend told me optiver took like 6 girls out of 70 intern class size

broken thorn Nov 14, 2022, 4:50 AM

#

allegedly an optiver trader made markets on if the female interns would have sex or not

nocturne estuary Nov 14, 2022, 4:50 AM

#

so like the environment isn't really uh

#

damn so it is just optiver i guess

broken thorn Nov 14, 2022, 4:50 AM

#

maybe 😂

#

would i be sexist if i accepted a job there? hopefully not

nocturne estuary Nov 14, 2022, 4:51 AM

#

6 girls out of 70 is insane it really do be a frat

#

#

meanwhile i just see this scrolling linkedin

#

kermit_think

broken thorn Nov 14, 2022, 4:53 AM

#

is that really such a low number? if it were software engineers then 6/70 is high

nocturne estuary Nov 14, 2022, 4:53 AM

#

there is no way 6/70 is high what

#

^^^

broken thorn Nov 14, 2022, 4:54 AM

#

10% women is way lower than it should be but i figured thats normal in coding jobs

obtuse flame Nov 14, 2022, 4:54 AM

#

Yeah having less women doesn’t help

#

Breeding ground for sexism for sure

broken thorn Nov 14, 2022, 4:55 AM

#

ive seen some stats saying as low as 5% women

#

they vary a lot tho

nocturne estuary Nov 14, 2022, 4:55 AM

#

that must be very specific firms i dunno

#

i mean the female presence was lower than i expected at bloomberg but not THAT low

broken thorn Nov 14, 2022, 4:56 AM

#

the female presence 💀

nocturne estuary Nov 14, 2022, 4:56 AM

#

yeah uh i def could have worded that better

#

i remember like last year Jane Street's website promo pics had like NO women on it

obtuse flame Nov 14, 2022, 4:57 AM

#

I think it’s just that less women try for trading in the first place

#

Not necessarily interviewers being sexist

broken thorn Nov 14, 2022, 4:57 AM

#

nocturne estuary yeah uh i def could have worded that better

i get what u meant just thought it was funny

nocturne estuary Nov 14, 2022, 4:58 AM

#

broken thorn i get what u meant just thought it was funny

oh yeah for sure no hard feelings

obtuse flame Nov 14, 2022, 4:58 AM

#

Because they’re turned off by the idea of trading/finance environment and the stem field is mostly guys

broken thorn Nov 14, 2022, 4:58 AM

#

obtuse flame Because they’re turned off by the idea of trading/finance environment and the st...

ye u gotta be like this to want to be in finance tbh https://www.reddit.com/r/tumblr/comments/pu7qde/hell_yeah_shit_cumdick_is_so_cool/

r/tumblr - Hell yeah, Shit Cumdick is so cool

18,055 votes and 621 comments so far on Reddit

#

who classified u

nocturne estuary Nov 14, 2022, 4:58 AM

#

quant people in general just kinda suck like if i had to spend my days around quant people before i got in i probably wouldn't do it

broken thorn Nov 14, 2022, 4:59 AM

#

oh the deleted guy?

#

i dont classify you as a woman

#

i classify you as cracked

nocturne estuary Nov 14, 2022, 4:59 AM

#

thanospog

nocturne estuary Nov 14, 2022, 5:00 AM

#

nocturne estuary quant people in general just kinda suck like if i had to spend my days around qu...

is this just me??? like i swear like 75% of people i meet who say they are in or going to a quant firm are absolutely insufferable

broken thorn Nov 14, 2022, 5:01 AM

#

not yet

#

one day i will be cracked

#

wait till u read her blog post

#

it really makes recruiting seem easy

#

just go to cmu and have 3.97 gpa and do 250 leetcodes

#

yeah

#

i just kind of

#

hold on i have a baller analogy

#

u know how you can have differnet desities of air or liquid

#

like if you have a bunch of denser gas it will displace the lighter one

#

and then the 2 substances wont meet cuz theyre blocked by the middel one

#

i did that between me and every company by applyigjn with a shitty resume

#

ye but its still void

#

cuz referral i thonk

#

i swear they havent let a single referrral in

#

i heard they are good at checking duplicates

#

pls tell me all ur strats

#

i beg

#

i want to copy colin davis

#

do 100 LC hards in preparation of amazon

#

then get 2sum or somethign

#

what type

#

grpah problems are usually hit or miss cuz its just "do uou know the algorithm"

nocturne estuary Nov 14, 2022, 5:13 AM

#

graph

#

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-chart-stocks-going-up-gif-15813050

Tenor

broken thorn Nov 14, 2022, 5:15 AM

#

LOL

#

the double meaning of mathematical graph vs graphing daata will never not be funny to me

median kettle Nov 14, 2022, 5:18 AM

#

#

yo

#

no way IMC paying this much for an intern

#

wut

broken thorn Nov 14, 2022, 5:21 AM

#

median kettle no way IMC paying this much for an intern

its verified

#

also comapnies in new york have to tell the actual pay now so we know

#

hrt says 4800 per wek for instance

median kettle Nov 14, 2022, 5:22 AM

#

mustve been some crazy nego

broken thorn Nov 14, 2022, 5:23 AM

#

median kettle mustve been some crazy nego

nah its base

#

i think

#

at least hrt is bsae

#

i havent checked imc but i assume its same

obtuse flame Nov 14, 2022, 5:27 AM

#

broken thorn its verified

they prob counted sign on to hourly?

broken thorn Nov 14, 2022, 5:33 AM

#

New traders undergo an intense training programme to set option prices and, according to the court ruling, these included setting prices for dick pics, the salaries for female porn stars and the most expensive bras.