quants-n-traders

[brisk stream]

in kanazawa

delicious here

[dapper iris]

all ik is im not impressed by chicago food

[rose holly]

i thought jeong was good

[keen grove]

isn't arrowstreet supposed to be really good?

[royal forge]

Wait Alina is here?

Akuna*

Did not know that

[dapper iris]

oo the menu looks good

[keen grove]

Hm

[royal forge]

Yea agreed

They don’t recruit from good schools

[brisk stream]

have u been to bavettes yet

[royal forge]

Ik they recruit from NEU

Ah

Oh flow is here @forest cobalt

But yea all mid-tier firms

@forest cobalt can I Dm 🙂

[dapper iris]

we have a res sometime this month forget when

[broken thorn]

i got hella lucky

but i am now capable of 50+

[royal forge]

Nah i think that’s real

[broken thorn]

are LC hards that arent dp as solvable as dp hards
the non DP ones seem so arbitrary sometimes, can i learn them

a lot seem like "you gotta have seen this before or u die "

have felt or had felt

please tell me the feeling goes away

do u agree with me tho that the dp and grpah questions are usually not arbitrary

lol whats an adjacency list i just construct nodes for the graph and then traverse it

which ones adjacency list again? is it
node_i, [all the nodes node_i points to]

google is super confusing

cuz google imagies makes it look like 0 points to 1 which points to 2 which points to 3

but i think its just saying 0 points to all 3

i think its cuz the actual implementation is often a linked list

but its so visually shit

is point72 good company

[graceful python]

hrt

[slender vine]

Not T1 hedge fund level, but I think it’s a good asset management firm

[pliant axle]

is citadel trading phone automatic?

their new trading intern role is kinda whack

[candid root]

New?

[pliant axle]

investment & trading intern

i dont remember seeing it before, i might be wrong

[candid root]

I think that’s just what they call it

[stoic hound]

anyone here convert a full time offer into an internship? what's the best way to approach that?

[steel heron]

dude got the rentech offer

[stoic hound]

bro if I did

I would just work there for 13 days and retire

[steel heron]

lmao yeah

[stoic hound]

yeah that's what I was thinking

[broken thorn]

tenrech

[stoic hound]

wolverine trading

wanted to do quant before I graduate

it's that or riot games for the summer then off to google or bloomberg

[royal forge]

come to belvedere

😈

[stoic hound]

what's TC there?

[royal forge]

better than wolverine

[stoic hound]

I got 180K from wolverine which seemed a lot higher than levels

is belvedere more?

[royal forge]

is this for swe or quant

[stoic hound]

SWE

[royal forge]

idk then actually

i might be coping but im fairly sure belvs ng offer will be at least 200k this year

[stoic hound]

alr ill apply

u work there rn?

[royal forge]

intern next summer

get the offer so i can know what ng TC is

😂

[stoic hound]

LOL kk

[broken thorn]

isnt 180-200 reasonable to get from tech as well

my assumption has been that swe at finance place is more effort than tech

[bold brook]

hey guys need some advice: i got offers from akuna and amazon, both for SDE overall pay is similar and not a deciding factor. what do you guys think would be better for future career prospects? I'm not sure if i wanna work in tech or at quants in the future, 😄 for akuna, 😂 for amazon

[hallow shoal]

Pick akuna harder to get in and if you wanna do quant imo it’s better

[dim spade]

most faang pay that right?

[broken thorn]

uhh depends i think

[broken thorn]

google likes to lowball and amazon likes to hire people who lack the reading comprehension to give levels accurate information

so not always, but if ur good enough to get finance then u probably good enough to get that much at faang

[stark crow]

goog ng doesn’t lowball and readily negotiates with higher offers

apple is weird bc new grad pay is hourly

[broken thorn]

apple isnt faang

u have to hire people to be faang

[steel heron]

then faang doesnt exist

[broken thorn]

google facebook amazon and to a lesser extent netflix all hire people sometimes

just not this year

i literally never hear ppl talk about their apple process or offer

[sand willow]

shish

hrt interview done

anyone know if they cut frosh slack

[swift current]

Does anyone know how long HRT usually takes to respond after a phone interview?

[sand willow]

like

i think so idk lmao

dm

[swift current]

It is doomed for me lol

I did my second phone on tuesday and havent heard back

[potent hatch]

Anyone know what citadel leadership round is like

[swift current]

Im applying for ft

Wdym by automatic

I think you need to pass the first one

[keen grove]

what is leadership round?

is that part of the onsite?

[potent hatch]

it's the round after the onsite

[keen grove]

there's a round after onsite?

what's the point of onsite then bruh

eh I'll prolly bomb this onsite anyways

[fast gazelle]

leadership is basically a manager interview you'd see at other companies

[hallow shoal]

It’s a culture fit

Interview basically

[stark crow]

Banana man were you rejected after final

Fr

They don’t want us to take over

We’re too powerful

[dapper iris]

if u tell ur interviewer ur an 86 and one piece fan you might get bonus points

[rose holly]

how does one prepare for this quantshops

[fast gazelle]

apply -> oa -> phone screen -> onsite -> offer

don't fail any of these steps and you'll be fine

[brisk stream]

endorse ^

[rose holly]

LEHIRU

[nova dust]

I never got phone screen even after doing oa greatly

[stark crow]

I’ll try that, my interviewer seems like he might be a weeb

[broken thorn]

HAHAHA

[tardy steppe]

Can I break into this industry with cs degree?

[fast gazelle]

yes

pretty much everyone has a cs degree or maybe a math degree

at the very least some sort of quantitative field like physics

[sand willow]

@forest cobalt

u got hrt right

[rose holly]

no he got roblox

[dire nacelle]

What’s a good resource if I want to get into learning about this and doing predictive stock trading?

[rose holly]

http://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets helped me get started

[nocturne estuary]

[swift current]

Damn its been over 3 days and HRT still ghosting 😂

[broken thorn]

i dont see it

i still see the 150/hr and 140/hr stuff that probably includse bonuses

isnt that optiver fake tho

i thought optiver was like 112 pre bonus

[hallow shoal]

Optiver is 55k

45k salary 10k bonus

It’s bonus included

On levels

[broken thorn]

could be phd intern

[vocal pasture]

Banh xeo is a superior food

[sand willow]

southeast asian food >>

asian food is supreme

[sand willow]

mexican food is overrated imho

indian food is bussin

[heavy jungle]

Citadel securities interview was a fat L

[hasty hill]

Yeah i really like indian food, prob my fav after mexican

[long raft]

Sadly haven’t found any but if you find one pls share 🥹🥹🥹

[stark crow]

citadel, hrt and js have fall

dk if the js one is waterloo only tho or not

[slim meteor]

anyone had interviews at jump for swe/technologist?

[obtuse flame]

JS is only for SWE

Just to clarify

[quasi orbit]

are places still hiring for swe for trading?

[hallow shoal]

how do i push

citadel to fall

[stark crow]

?

they ask you what seasons you are available for before the phone screen

[rose holly]

Citadel, Akuna Capital, and Optiver cause I'm in the process with all three of them

[quiet flame]

have you taken analysis/algebra yet.

[long raft]

Is citadel OA always the same?

[old shore]

do you think you would like the math classes that you'd have to take?

outside of probability theory and combinatorics, I personally do not feel the math classes I've taken have directly prepared me for qt interviews

[hallow shoal]

oops too late

[hallow shoal]

how do ppl recommend I prepare for citadel leadership round?

could be anything?

[brisk stream]

be human

[hallow shoal]

ty

[hallow shoal]

how do I convince citadel to move to fall

if I have another firm in the summer

[fast gazelle]

ask them

[brisk stream]

reasonable take

[hallow shoal]

like how

[fast gazelle]

email recruiter

[hallow shoal]

final technical

or leadership?

[hallow shoal]

when I get the offer?

or like how do I communicate it to them without sounding like ass

like i want to go but in the fall

[fast gazelle]

why would you sound like an ass

when you get offer, ask if fall is available

worst case they say no and you only have summer offer

[hallow shoal]

ok sounds good

but like I already signed another summer offer

do I just be like I'd love to work there but I've signed is fall ok?

or just ask fall directly?

[tardy steppe]

Which offers you have?

[hallow shoal]

another equivalent to Citadel

[tardy steppe]

Like?

Just curious

Oh choose citadel over optiver

[hallow shoal]

i've signed bro

[tardy steppe]

I think tc is even better

New grad

[hallow shoal]

yes I know

[tardy steppe]

But intern pay might go to optiver?

[rose holly]

what role?

[tardy steppe]

Is this swe?

[hallow shoal]

both swe

false

less money more weeks

i heard its 53k 11 weeks

but like how do I go about

convincing for fall

but like I'm trying to find the best way

to ask for fall

cause my CMu friend said

they were like fuck you

LOl

but like I want to not get "fuck you'd"

so I'm trying to find a way to ask politely

that might increase my chances

[heavy jungle]

citadel asked me a pretty tough q too. i heard they're asking swes math this year

[brisk stream]

there’s no standardized question set, anyone can ask whatever they want

[hallow shoal]

for technical final?

[hallow shoal]

I kinda had a math question

[heavy jungle]

idk my friend just said he got asked a pure math and statistics question for swe

[fast gazelle]

yea citadel is random

[hallow shoal]

I guess so

[heavy jungle]

just need to pray for good rng

[fast gazelle]

i got asked system design and some of my friends didn't

[hallow shoal]

yeh its rng

[hallow shoal]

did you get citadel/

[brisk stream]

I’m gna start asking math

🧮

[fast gazelle]

no i got rejected lol

[hallow shoal]

leadreship or technical final?

[heavy jungle]

I interviewed for quant research and got asked math and bombed it

[fast gazelle]

after technical final

[heavy jungle]

Should have done swe

[hallow shoal]

ah rip

[fast gazelle]

refer me next year 😊

wait does citadel blacklist if you get rejected after final

[brisk stream]

no

[fast gazelle]

hiru are you nyc or chicago

[brisk stream]

both

[fast gazelle]

how

if you're in chicago, ill will stalk you next summer

[brisk stream]

then nyc

[fast gazelle]

darn

[brisk stream]

I can work wherever I want doesn’t matter

will prob do Miami soon

[heavy jungle]

Is it true citadel pays 600k to new grads?

[brisk stream]

possibly

[median kettle]

since when did hrt do fall?? i thought they only had summer

[stark crow]

For a while now

At least loo coop kids have done fall

[stark crow]

What about Canada

[obtuse flame]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-how-many-times-do-we-need-to-teach-you-old-man-slow-thick-gif-12272188

[signal bloom]

Does it matter when you solve one question(pass all test cases) and got really close to another but could pass the test cases?
This happened with me with SIG OA.

[quiet flame]

was your submitted code able to pass some of the test cases

either way I don't think sig really scrutinizes the code, feels like they just look at results considering how liberal they are with sending out the OA

[signal bloom]

🤧

[signal bloom]

Messed up one line of code and realized after I submitted

[quiet flame]

Citadel interviwers ask whatever the fuck they're feeling like asking in the moment lmao

[quiet flame]

ng is interview performance dependent if ur not returning. Know someone who got offered 450k, top performing returning intern with competing offer is 500-600k

[stark crow]

p sure I've seen a fall offer before

they do winter which is much smaller so no reason to not have fall as well to accommodate certain school schedules

[quiet flame]

there was a fall program pre covid

[stark crow]

waterloo lol

[quiet flame]

there's a winter algodev program for women too

[stark crow]

there we go

[quiet flame]

those are the only off season programs I know of

they say 11 weeks, but its closer to 12 lol

its not 11 weeks clean

[stark crow]

they had a winter class for 2022 too afaik

[stark crow]

16-week coops do be nice

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-money-raining-money-meme-pepe-money-gif-20679525

US work visas so wack

[broken thorn]

took me an hour and a half but solved distinct subsequences on my own 🎉

[hasty hill]

Can u solve ur skill issue in smash

[tulip sapphire]

nah a friend of mine got the standard 200/100/100 package for ng SWE, 600k is either nego'd or return intern or phd or fake xd

bruh one of the offers on there is fake -- it's lower than what i got, so i submitted my real offer letter awhile back and theyve still yet to verify it meanwhile they are verifying the optiver offer which is straight up not real...

i guess, but then they should do that for everyone

imo it's fair to do that, just make it clear youre doing that

also is the SIG signon real?

the signing bonus is now almost 30k

[broken thorn]

yes, step 1 is to get a job offer, step 2 get a gf, step 3 buy a phob

step 4-11 is left as an exercise to the reader

no but reading its possible made me realize how to

i just dont know how to hash tuples efficiently in c++

how do u do that

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16792751/hashmap-for-2d3d-coordinates-i-e-vector-of-doubles

oh i guess thats not the worst

just gotta commit it to memory

just so i make sure im correct, the linear space soln is ||save the subproblems as hash of coordinates, it is linear because your subproblems staircase upwards||

if the soln is top down and 2d, then my subproblems staircased upwards till they hit base

OH

no i dont think i would be top down

idk how that could work, since if you do bottom up you end up with absurdly high numbers in the middle

since 300 As and 300 As for s and t will be 1 as the soln, but will be ||300 choose 150|| in the middle which is unwritable

my original bottom up soln only did 60/65 cases cuz it overflowed super hard

[tulip sapphire]

i know people at hella quant firms, feel free to DM me if you wanna get connecte

d

[broken thorn]

i would like to get connected so that i can get past resume screen next year

i will do the joma tech overprepare for interviews meme except for real this time and for the green book

in english, spanish, and lambda calculus

[tulip sapphire]

Joma is very cool

I asked him to come give a talk and he actually came

[broken thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bId3N7QZec

@opaque abyss

[crystal apex]

dyk if the JPMC offer is wrong on levels, too? no shot they are paying their SWEs 13k a month

[rose holly]

[thin glacier]

does anyone know if Optiver ng quant trader tech phone asks about option pricing and market making? thanks

[floral locust]

They don’t

[thin glacier]

i was looking on glassdoor

made we sweat

how do i prepare for mm stuff lol

gotcha thanks

[quiet flame]

This is incorrect

posting isn't public, just exclusive to private posting to certain unis

if you go to T5 recommend just checking handshake, C++ technologist intern is probably there

[tulip sapphire]

Ok ill check

[tulip sapphire]

Is it new this year?

They shared profiles of people who signed for C++ quant technologists and their prior internships

None of them were Radix interns — which means if it’s not new then they have a 0% conversion rate 💀

Was it in Amsterdam only?

There are only 2 Amsterdam new hires

And neither of them interned at Radix

So i kinda doubt but ill check handshake later

On phone rn

[quiet flame]

no clue if its new this year, but there's for sure c++ technologist intern positions in the US

chicago

that being said, now that I think about it I've never heard of radix having dev internships before so it is probably new this year

this is what the handshake post looks like

have final scheduled

[obtuse flame]

L school moment

[dim spade]

bruh

citadel mascot

[royal forge]

bro 😂😂😂😂

[unborn stratus]

citadel drip

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-drip-monkey-with-the-drip-monket-wit-da-drip-yeah-i-got-that-drip-drip-gif-20496543

[obtuse flame]

I mean it’s true for 99%

[gentle meadow]

thank to all of the HFT

they are the reason why I’m not butt ass naked in public

[obtuse flame]

Ayo wat

[ebon dune]

any HRT python swe folks do phone and know the format? 👀

[sand willow]

anyone know when HRT responds after phone

[leaden temple]

Lol 2 pieces were from sell visit, rest from campus events

[tulip sapphire]

i have the same + hoodie and citsec vest

my favorite is the gqs bottle, it's >>> than the thor bottle

oh i forgot -- citadel airpods!

[hallow shoal]

when is the citadel sell visit?

[median kettle]

has anyone heard of the firm GTS in NYC?

[broken thorn]

wtf

how do i get citadel airpods

[broken thorn]

u maybe

i think citadel gpa screens me forever

its ok we get hrt

have u practiced today

that is how u get qunat job

ngmi

skip midterms for practicing

[tulip sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-problems-solutions-dave-chapelle-gif-13450651

[obtuse flame]

Does citadel hire fall trading interns from this point onwards or are they likely done?

[obtuse flame]

That might be the case then, I’m not sure

[nocturne estuary]

thanks for your private key i just stole all your bitcoin

[pliant axle]

advice for sig first phone?

[obtuse flame]

know expected value and conditional probability

[old shore]

any1 know if chicago trading company is recruiting new grad traders this yr

[floral locust]

Hello nokker

Why do u have a cringe name now

Tomorrow

I just landed in HK

[long raft]

Wait what are you working in HK?😱

Ps: you have to visit https://www.holeefook.com.hk

[floral locust]

Cool thanks for the recommendation

[lost stratus]

has anyone here been through the DV Trading SWE process?

or Quantbot Technologies

[zealous iris]

hey

[lost stratus]

hi?

[rose holly]

how does one genuinely prep for quantshops

[fast gazelle]

what role

like for swe, it's not that different from faang but you may need to know more lower level stuff like OS and networks

and ig c++ if you're going after a c++ role

[dim spade]

is akuna oa auto?

took weeks to get it lmao

[rose holly]

swe obv

[rose holly]

that sounds pre fun actually

[obtuse flame]

Yeah

[versed tusk]

anyone know how long it should take for akuna to get back to me after final

for trading summer internship

[lost stratus]

has there ever been any actual content made about radix related either on reddit or youtube?

https://youtu.be/V53YXr6zPyU

is the only thing I could find

[signal bloom]

Suggestion needed(freshman)!!!
Should I do Data Structures with Java or C++
which one will be better if I'm planning to pursue quant dev in future?

[broken thorn]

c

++ is a crutch for the skill issued like eurusd

[boreal mortar]

tbh just enjoy ur freshman year

[broken thorn]

get laid freshman year cuz its the last chance ull get if ur going for quant

[lost stratus]

How does this help him land quant dev

[lost stratus]

Theres definetly people of both genders at quant firms tho?

[novel python]

any advice for akuna python phone?

[broken thorn]

so?

still gotta be a turbovirgin to pass the interviews

[hallow shoal]

do c++ one of my biggest regrets is not learning c++ well enough

[lost stratus]

can you explain why freshman year is the last year to get laid if going into quant

[boreal mortar]

its a joke

[broken thorn]

i meant this part

not the gender ratio

[boreal mortar]

you don't have to start freshman year

enjoy college

[lost stratus]

Wdym by swamped, its just leetcode + os + maybe a bit of probability/stats

[broken thorn]

i assume u dont care about gender ratio if ur a cs major in the first place lmao

[boreal mortar]

not everything is about the grind

[lost stratus]

But thats what everyone thinks so wouldnt it be better to give advice for the few people that are interested freshman year

[hallow shoal]

some people have been coding since the womb man

😭 Then you have me who started freshmen fall

Its an unfair game

just do your best to put yourself ahead

[next girder]

Lol stop being a baby

Many people didnt start programming until college. You’re not that far behind.

[broken thorn]

what are you trying to get into? swe or quant?

probability isnt needed much of for swe

[hallow shoal]

i'm chilling. I'm just saying that a large portion of quant people start vastly before

[lost stratus]

There are plenty of people in this server who have talked about preping leetcode with no experience in just a month

OS is just an extra set of knolwdge after that

[lost stratus]

He said quant dev and sometimes quant dev works with the math so i said maybe

Idk its a general term

[hallow shoal]

of course. I'm just saying that you will always be competiting with ppl who are more experienced

[broken thorn]

i dont think its reasonable to get good at leetcode in a month

unless u have very strong background in cs or pure math

[boreal mortar]

lol off topic but is ur name rly quant achieved

hope its ironic

[lost stratus]

I think someone who starts freshman year fall and does a full 4 year program can defintly end up at places like headlands and radix if they really wanted to

[hallow shoal]

nah I got an offer

[broken thorn]

if i achieved quant i might make my username that lol

[hallow shoal]

it used to be like quant or bust

Lol

so I changed after I got it

[broken thorn]

or like (pls trust me i have a bit of proof of success)

[boreal mortar]

sry dude but that mentality is kinda cringe

[hallow shoal]

ok bro

[broken thorn]

that mentality got him quant

[hallow shoal]

keep coping

[broken thorn]

cant knock it

[boreal mortar]

nice that you got an offer tho

[broken thorn]

maybe ur mentality can also get u quant

we all have different mentals

[lost stratus]

Why not? Theres alot of really great free resources lately

[hallow shoal]

I think its gonna take a bit longer than a month lol

[lost stratus]

Okay maybe 2 or 3 months then

That still isnt much more

For a freshman

[broken thorn]

because you can learn data structures reasonably fast, but learning to differentiate between which one to use and being able to come up with non obvious algorithms in the moment is not something you can just grind in a few weeks

and if you havent taken ds or an algo class yet it is all the more challenging

[lost stratus]

Actualy thats specifically what im talking about takes people a month or less

Its just practice

[broken thorn]

exactly

if u have a rigorous ds class and algo class and you get As in both then probably easier to learn lc faster

[hallow shoal]

you be acing every interview >.> Pog 0:

[broken thorn]

my goal is to ace every interview

i want to put 10% of the effort people in india do

which means solving every lc hard easily

[hallow shoal]

LC God in our midst

[lost stratus]

If its a rigorous ds&algo class then it shoupd prepare you for common lc hards without having to touch leetcode

[hallow shoal]

thats cap

no way any school's DS and algo

can become a Leetcode hard lmao

[lost stratus]

How is it considered rigorous then

[lost stratus]

Im sure waterloo does

[broken thorn]

what grade are you i disagree with so much of what u say

[hallow shoal]

no simple class

is gonna make you a LC hard god

Lol

[lost stratus]

I said most common lc hards

[broken thorn]

i can solve a few lc harda from my algo class but thats because we literally went over that example

[lost stratus]

Not the random ones that expect you to know some obscure algo

[hallow shoal]

Competitive Programming class

just join your school's ICPC team

EZ lc immpossible tier

[lost stratus]

.

Just watch neetcode videos in the backround then

[hallow shoal]

go prepare lmao

[broken thorn]

you have to pay attention to learn things...

[hallow shoal]

having a new grad offer that pays that much does do that to someone

[broken thorn]

how much ur offer mr(s) blog post advertiser

[quaint elm]

whats an mt

oh LMFAO

i feel dumb

[stark crow]

You’d be surprised

[lyric stag]

[broken thorn]

where is ur blog post

i cant find it

i see a github but that is not a blog

[stark crow]

One of the most cracked people I know doesn’t do lc, they’ve only ever done the school’s ds&a course

[hallow shoal]

where your blog post

[broken thorn]

thats not a blog

[nocturne estuary]

my school's analysis of algorithms class definitely helped me a lot with hards

[broken thorn]

that is a version control website

[hallow shoal]

self doxx

XD

[nocturne estuary]

no one knows how to get quant like literally

even people who get into quant don't know

[hallow shoal]

I see that you are connected to christiana

actually goat

yeh haha

You goated

nice blog

[royal forge]

thats not from the course though

[hallow shoal]

0:

[royal forge]

the kid is just goated

holy shit ur cracked

[hallow shoal]

did you code

in c++

[stark crow]

well their dsa knowledge does come from that course - they weren’t some secret usaco plat chad or anything

[broken thorn]

@rustic wind its veyr helpful but i dont see ur tc anywhere in the post

[lost stratus]

lots of quant offers 😮

what is your backround like?, jk im blind its in the blog

[hallow shoal]

did you code python for HRT?

[hallow shoal]

read the blog lmao

[broken thorn]

whats ur tc

[hallow shoal]

we are all here for your

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LMAO

sheesh how did you get put into algo eng

I thought it was only algo dev and core

[broken thorn]

(also do u recommend sticking to "only" 10% lc hards? i feel like i should be doing harder than what u did)

[hallow shoal]

is hrt where you signed 0:

[broken thorn]

like more hards less easies and mediums

[hallow shoal]

oh even if its devops damn

noice!

[broken thorn]

maybe 20% hard 80% medium?

[hallow shoal]

"The one point I want to highlight is that TC is not everything—especially not first-year TC"

hehe

500+

[lost stratus]

do you think your work experiences helped pass resume screens more or school name?

[hallow shoal]

XD

[broken thorn]

they had shit work experience compared to crurent offer so probably gpa+cmu is why

startup->hft

[hallow shoal]

"i'm here to tell everyone to touch grass, but I'm down to have 500k + XD"
"The one point I want to highlight is that TC is not everything—especially not first-year TC"

oh shit

[broken thorn]

lol

[hallow shoal]

even though you go to CMU?

wow

[lost stratus]

what about radix and aquatic?

[broken thorn]

do you mean you got the entire offer before they interviewed you, or did you tell hrt you were in final stages for some places? @rustic wind

[nocturne estuary]

wait you're not CS at CMU are you

you're IS

probably why

oh huh

why

[broken thorn]

i dont understand reply, do you mean you got an entire offer before they interview, or you got halfway through some processes before they interview

wow

[nocturne estuary]

i didn't know they allowed

[broken thorn]

did they speed up the process?

[hallow shoal]

oh wow :0

[nocturne estuary]

quite interesting

[stark crow]

Quant firms are simps for competing offers

[hallow shoal]

did you recruit this hard last year?

[nocturne estuary]

just anyone to major in CS

[nocturne estuary]

quant firms are simps period

[broken thorn]

do they check competing offers?

[nocturne estuary]

very very interesting

[stark crow]

You can get resume rejected from Cit, show them a competing offer and they’ll interview you lol

[nocturne estuary]

wait i should have

[broken thorn]

is that facts?

[hallow shoal]

I had my hrt final and after I said I had competing got reject in 3 hours

[lost stratus]

are you allowed to say which firm had the highest offer

[broken thorn]

@regal carbon recruiter whos here

i have offers from hrt and drw

[stark crow]

you got resume rejected?

[nocturne estuary]

no i was stupid on the OA it was actually easy

but still

[hallow shoal]

wait doesn't radix pay more than HRT?

or is that only for SWE and QR?

[stark crow]

sadge

[broken thorn]

@stark crow are u sure citadel will interview someone who is rejected if they have compete offers

[nocturne estuary]

yeah ill just try for offseason when they open

[stark crow]

Yes

My friend did that

[broken thorn]

what if its gpa cutoff

i have sus gpa but am overconfident in my lc skills

[hallow shoal]

wait what? so if you got rejected and reapplied with competes they will interview?

[stark crow]

Their major gpa was higher than gpa cutoff tho so there’s that

[nocturne estuary]

i have sus gpa

[hallow shoal]

icic

[broken thorn]

whats the gpa cutoff

[stark crow]

3.6

[nocturne estuary]

what they increased it?

sad

hopefully 6 credits of chinese carry my GPA because i did not care at all about my other courses

[stark crow]

Cit too anal about gpa, I know a past JS intern who got resume rejected from Cit lmao

[lost stratus]

there are still other good quant firms though

aquatic and vatic for example don't even require a degree

[nocturne estuary]

but none of them do offseason

or very few

[stark crow]

Ken had an interview with a goog vp and the vp was talking about how gpa doesn’t matter and ken went “uhm actually”

[nocturne estuary]

uhm actually

ken so fire

[broken thorn]

gpa and school name matter so you can brag about gpa an dschool name

[nocturne estuary]

but you need both

[hallow shoal]

Have you been able to off-season cit

[stark crow]

I can if I want

[royal forge]

competing offers from other top firms though prob

[nocturne estuary]

did Wegon get citadel officially?

[stark crow]

Im not going to lol

[hallow shoal]

How do I ask

[stark crow]

No I literally did phone on Friday

[nocturne estuary]

oh

i rememebr

[stark crow]

Idk companies are known to bend over backwards for loo so my advice will prolly not help

[nocturne estuary]

i will literally come there and turn it into iceloo

don't make me

this thanksgiving break you know what is happening wagon

https://tenor.com/view/vibe-check-gif-21902590

[stark crow]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-ice-baby-vanilla-ice-vanilla-rap-gif-7563372

[nocturne estuary]

stole the beat from queen tho

[full ridge]

does it also work for competing interview processes

if i tell citadel i have an interview loop with another top HFT would they be more likely to interview me

[hallow shoal]

For citadel leadership how many engineering manager interviews do you have

It says variable could have more after

[rose holly]

out of 4?

no cap?

[stark crow]

Doubt it

[rose holly]

whats your gpa roughly?

[broken thorn]

3.4

it is 3.5-3.66 most semesters tho, just messed up one semester

[rose holly]

chad

[full ridge]

but im asking about interview process not offer

i dont have an offer

[drifting pelican]

@forest cobalt are you doing swe at these places or quant stuff? Just curious

oh ok thats pretty cool - you're thinking that the swe experience at these firms will help you pivot into quant research?

Ah I see thats pretty cool, how long are you thinking its gonna take you to prep for the interviews then

Do you think going through the green book would be sufficient?

[drifting pelican]

ah i see thanks

same sit ^^^

[weary nacelle]

How do you stand out for these apps?

Trying to get ready for 24

I’m under represented in tech and will have a decent internship under my belt

Dead I might only have one of those ms oh well 😭😭

[celest anvil]

Did u do any competition math in high school?

[hallow shoal]

Green Book

[broken thorn]

how many ways can you rank the top 5 schools if ties are allowed

solve this and u are good enough to get a job

we have decided to pursue candidates that more closely match our current business needs

it does

:)

its the same

[lost stratus]

does anyone know of any less known quant firms in the us, either super new or just never talked about? I have applied/reached out to at least 100, I tried getting in contact with a few headhunter/recruiting firms but they have not been able to offer many new options

[broken thorn]

give me a number

[old shore]

good luck lol.

[broken thorn]

i know the strategy and it still took me 10 minutes to solve

[royal forge]

Get faang first

[broken thorn]

hypocrite 😂

hes right tho i think

[lost stratus]

I'v interned at rivian/coinbase/facebook(meta) previously

[broken thorn]

[lost stratus]

wdym

[broken thorn]

faang first is prob better than shitty finance first

[lost stratus]

low/mid tier quant firm on resume would get alot more quant interviews than any faang

[broken thorn]

ive heard both working

personally i know someone who went msft to 2sigma and another who went sig to cit

[lost stratus]

did they go to a target school

[broken thorn]

neither

[lost stratus]

or have c++ or ML experience or research

[broken thorn]

sig to cit guy is 3.97 gpa+800 leetcodes

is

[lost stratus]

from quant alone -> 23 OA's, 18 interviews and 2 final rounds

[lost stratus]

i havnt heard of anyone besides maybe citadel and hrt liking big tech internships on resume

[hallow shoal]

thats kinda good wtf

[lost stratus]

well I did reach out to 117 quant firms tho

[broken thorn]

ye thats crazy

can u send me ur list pls

radix simp

so i can apply there next year

[lost stratus]

sure one sec il just send it here

[broken thorn]

pog!

[lost stratus]

although it did take like thousands of reddit posts and linkedin profiles and discord messages to find

[broken thorn]

yes

[lost stratus]

most hiring managers/recruiters i have talked to at quant firms either want to see c++ or ml experience or quant firme xperience,

I have no major cpp experience at my internships so the only way to offset that is go to a smaller quant firm since those are more likely to hire, its harder to get placed on just any team in a faang company

[broken thorn]

🎉🎉🎉

howd u solve it

[long raft]

Thx!

[broken thorn]

thats tough

oh lol

someone else did that too

the semi brute force way to calculate is to find the answer for a specific number of equal signs

with 1 equal sign its 5!*(4choose1)/(2!)

for isntance

two equals is more complex cuz you have two cases (adjacent equal signs and separated)

adjacent means /6, separate means /4

cuz 3! vs 2!^2

[lost stratus]

QUANT FIRMS LIST:
(Focusing on Quantitative~ proprietary trading firms/hedge funds)
Radix Trading
Headlands Technologies
TGS Management
PDT Partners
Vatic Labs
Ansatz Capital
Aquatic Capital
Boerboel Trading
Spark Investment Management
Evergreen Statistical Trading
Citadel/Citadel Securities
Jane Street Capital
Hudson River Trading
Jump Trading
DE Shaw
Tower Research Capital
Five Rings Capital
Renaissance Technologies
Old Mission Capital
Schonfeld
IMC Trading
Optiver
DRW
Virtu Financial
Two Sigma
Akuna Capital
Susquehanna International Group (SIG)
AQR Capital Management
Point72 Asset Management
Cubist Systematic Strategies
Chicago Trading Company
XR Trading
XTX Markets
Valkyrie Trading
Arrowstreet Capital
Wolverine Trading
Belvedere Trading
Squarepoint Capital
Balyasny Asset Management
Maven Securities
Flow Traders
Millennium Management
WorldQuant
3Red Partners
Voleon Group
Bridgewater
Peak6
Engineers Gate
DV Trading
Geneva Trading
ExodusPoint Capital
Group One Trading
Quantbot Technologies
Quantlab
Epoch Capital
ART Advisors
Athena Capital Research
TransMarket Group
Bluefin Trading
Crabel Capital
Graham Capital
GSA Capital
GTS
HC Technologies
Istra Research
Marshall Wace
Gelber Group
Stevens Capital mgmt
Teza Technologies
Volant Trading
Eagle Seven
Tradebot
Tradelink Holdings
HAP Capital
Seven Eight Capital
Blackedge Capital
Edgestream Partners
Ergoteles Capital
Cutler Group
Edgehog Trading
Final LTD
HC Technologies
Nebula Research & Development
Banyan Alpha Investment
Volterra Technologies
Jocasse Quantitative
Qsemble Capital Management
Orsus research
Edge Focus Partners
Galois Capital
Sunrise Gutures
Simplex Trading
MANA Partners
Laurion Capital Management
Eclipse Trading Technologies
Clear Street Markets (used to be summit securities group)
PanAgora Asset Management
Alphasimplex
Linden shore
Hilbert Technologies
Atto Trading
Ginkgo
Kepos Capital
Walleye Trading
Eschaton Trading
Albatross Labs
Kbit Crypto Trading
GSR Crypto
IPI llc
Tanius technology
Up Research

Tudor Investment Corp
Vector Trading
Manifold Trading
Pexabit
RiverRun Trading
Patronus Capital
Occudo Quantitative Strategies
Voltrade capital
Voloridge Investment Management
Pattern Research
Anti Capital
DL Trading
Kore Trading
4170 trading
Green Key Partners
Auros Global
Radkl (by GTS)
Scientech
TrexQuant
Galaxy Digital
Centiva Capital
Portofino Technologies
Lexidus Holdings
Lower East Side Capital
Selini Capital
Maritime lp
Gammon Capital
Monick LLC
Xantium group
Dark Forest Technologies
Quest Partners LLC
F9 Research
Elk Capital Markets
Aigen Investment Management
SQS Trading
Hyperion Decimus
Brooklyn Investment Group

also some of these firms just have a linkedin presence or no open roles so i did try to COLD EMAIL recruiters and such : used Apollo.io for finding email addresses, let me know if you need any email templates or suggestions for this, heres my template: #rant message

there might be one or 2 that might be out of the us like xtx markets but they do have us offices but are less likely to hire

I tried to make this list purely focus on buy side quantitative based hedgefunds/prop shops only because thats usually what fits the general description most cs majors think quant firm is eg cit/js etc and all based in the us, no wintermute or kronos research for example

My response rate is : 23 OA's 17 Interviews, 3 Final Rounds all at quant firms (as of dec 2022 (list is up to date to now tho))

If any of you know any US based firms that are not on that list PLEASE LET ME KNOW

[old shore]

ye i tried doing that, pain in the ass tho lol

[broken thorn]

based

[hallow shoal]

holy crap

actual goat

[old shore]

yeah

[lost stratus]

so basically mostly no asset managers, no banks etc, and mostly nyc and chicago based but thers a few random ones

[old shore]

you cant write code to solve problems like that on the fly lol

would be much easier if so

[broken thorn]

yes but they gonna be way easier probs than that

[old shore]

or not much easier but def easier

[broken thorn]

that problem is crazy hard

[old shore]

^

depends on the firm but seems like there are some blurred lines between the two at some places

quant dev yea

[broken thorn]

depends on company

[nocturne estuary]

buant binance

[median kettle]

zamn could we pin that list

[lost stratus]

tag a mod

[median kettle]

@stark crow :3

[long raft]

please pin 🥰 (Sorry for the Ping i didnt know who I should ping)

[stark crow]

Def don’t ping all the mods at once

[median kettle]

LOOOOL

[signal bloom]

Suggestion: Best resource to get started with CPP (for quant)

[long raft]

Sorry 😅😅😅 removed the ping

[lost stratus]

https://learncpp.com

[fair fjord]

do math comps, school name and rank, GPA still matter when you have >1yr industry experience?

[high ridge]

has anybody heard of citadel doing an extra technical round after onsite for new grad?

[median kettle]

pretty sure thats standard

two rounds of onsites

for new grad

[last herald]

I have the choice to work on a team closer to trading/research (swe modelling team) which sounds interesting/could let me transition into trading/research roles if I wanted to, but I'm not sure if I'd be good at, or a role related to my research (fpga compilers at a quant firm) that I think I could have a sizeable impact on, but is something I've been adjacent to for a long time already. Do I just flip a coin lmao?

[long raft]

The question is:

1. interesting new topic with Transition Option
2. something familiar with impact but nothing “Special new” to you

I would Go with 2) because it’s something with Big impact and it will allow me to bring my Knowledge in

[torpid vapor]

anyone know new grad salary for SWE at SIG for this year?

[digital bridge]

🥜

[gaunt tundra]

Anyone know what kinds of questions jump asks

Or how hard

[steel heron]

per month?

that sucks

[long raft]

But it gets better. Like not comparable with US but Still better.

[hasty hill]

You or @rose holly need to compile your lists into one

It’s a simple python 2 liner

Both of yours are pinned rn

[brisk stream]

hold up

that’s getting pasted around?

[floral locust]

i am not ok

[brisk stream]

dm

[brisk stream]

I made that list like 4mo ago lol

[lost stratus]

What was this list supposed to be?

[hasty hill]

That’s how people are man they just take credit

Somebody stole my kirb 350 and called it the colin davis 69

Fiends

[brisk stream]

smh

[lost stratus]

Mine is mainly quant prop trading firms and hedge funds

Idk what the other one is supposed to be

[brisk stream]

lol what

market makers aren’t buy side

it’s just a copy paste of all the firms I put into that old quant server

with some weird capitalization

[steel heron]

i would never

[obtuse flame]

Akuna and IMC

[nocturne estuary]

Who is on the same level then

Oh I see

Interesting

[obtuse flame]

Yeah I’m just saying they get shafted lol

[broken thorn]

thye consider 2 sigma competitor?

@chaewon wlb stays winning

maybe citadel has its feet in both circles

2s better for the wlb, js hrt jump better for the pay

[nocturne estuary]

[brisk stream]

they both pay a lot

And will continue to pay a lot if u perform well

there's no meaning in comparing ng comp across those few firms

more interesting to compare culture, trading styles, talent, etc

it's just that there's many instances of ppl saying inaccurate info across these channels and other ppl taking it as truth and spreading it

many instances of bad games of telephone that end up burning ppl in some way

so just be aware

[broken thorn]

how mcuh would cit have to pay u in ordre to take them over hrt? (if u dont wnat to give specific num then maybe a percentage of current offer?)

[brisk stream]

example of inaccurate info that can burn someone ^

[broken thorn]

hrt standard offer is 600k check levels

with competition 2m

new grad

:3

[hallow shoal]

wtf no

for return interns for core its 490

Oh oops

LOL

haha

[broken thorn]

what about cit sex?

sec

[brisk stream]

ya it's always fine to discuss (that's what this forum is for) but ppl need a healthier sense of skepticism

[hallow shoal]

i thought cit and cit sec pay same?

[broken thorn]

citsex has better wlb i thonk

[hallow shoal]

on average

but like some teams are good

but like good teams mean less turnover

which means less chance you get on a good team

how did MT go

F

[broken thorn]

😂

[hallow shoal]

that would be every class

.>

that doesn't start with a 5

oof

[broken thorn]

my school has 4 digit course nums

wait why does ur midterms even matter

embrace senioritis

get that 3.89 final gpa

[brisk stream]

my impression of cit teams is that you generally have a pretty fair tradeoff between wlb and upside

So can prob extrapolate based on that relationship

[hallow shoal]

that could be true but also at what point is that extra money not worth your time

[lost stratus]

A decent amount of smaller firms actually dont have a hard degree requirement

[broken thorn]

if the number of employees is smaller than blog post's offer then she shouldnt care about it

future net worth maybe

[brisk stream]

depends on your retirement targets 🙃

[broken thorn]

4m TC a bit difficult

but 4m net worth is free

[brisk stream]

it's pretty variable, I haven't seen a trend

generally startups/other trading firms/hedge funds ig

or higher roles at bigger tech companies

[drifting pelican]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaat

[broken thorn]

thats peanuts sk3ps

pre negotiation

cant even afford a yacht on that tc

[lost stratus]

Past citadel employees founded Teza Technologies and Radix Trading 👀

Ng

[drifting pelican]

I need to start prepping for these roles then 😭 @broken thorn

is it easy to transition from swe to quant in these quant shops

[broken thorn]

its too late you missed the freshman year putnam

[drifting pelican]

NOOOOOO

[broken thorn]

and the 8th grade summer coding bootcamp

might as well switch to front end and give up

[drifting pelican]

5th grade USACO plat

[broken thorn]

thats average

if my son or daughter cant get usaco plat by 5th grade they are no longer my son or daughter

[lost stratus]

Yes but some people dont like to dream big

[drifting pelican]

i would've failed them if they didn't 😢

[lost stratus]

But swe and a quant dev are sometimes interchangable and Quant dev is considered quant

[broken thorn]

i start charging them rent

[drifting pelican]

I see bc at that position you would already have been paid well right

[broken thorn]

if they default then they become my indentured servant

till they pay it off

they can pay it off by learning real analysis

[hallow shoal]

5th grade pfft. we are talking about while in the womb

if the first words out the mouth aren't cout its over

[hallow shoal]

trading and swe are just vastly different some people enjoy swe more at a shop

[broken thorn]

you play mozart while your kid is in the womb because a study said it makes him smarter

i play euclid's the elements audiobook so he learns the definition of rigor

we are not the same

[lost stratus]

Well maybe but

There is generally overlap betwen swe and quant dev

And some between Quant dev and quant trader
And some between between quant trader and quant researrcher

Take that how you will

But swe != qr

[drifting pelican]

Ah okay cool Im trying to do Algo anything at HRT and Trader/Researcher at Jane Street - these are long term goals tho ofc

[analog badge]

should i interview for citsec ops even or stick to leetcoding for swe

[drifting pelican]

ah I see what's the main difference between trader and researcher at Jane Street

[drifting pelican]

ah ok nice

[broken thorn]

i want to be c++ gigachad but i also want to be a qt

perhaps i could be r/overemployed at a firm

work both jobs

[drifting pelican]

Also what year were you guys when you first got your first swe/qt/qr internship at a quant shop

[broken thorn]

4AM till noon i am trader. noon-1PM i do drugs to keep myself awake. 1PM till 10PM I am a programmer

[lost stratus]

Idk specifically at jane street since they have alot of teams and also they have both discretionary traders and quant traders

[drifting pelican]

ah okay thanks!

Sophmore with Cit internship??????????

nice

what did you even do to prepare for that

Wow wow wow thats crazy

really? how much harder would you say it is than a say Amazon?

bc there are so many rounds for these interviews no?

[static musk]

any tips for the os stuff?

os*

[obtuse flame]

Did you get system design?

[celest anvil]

@forest cobalt how hard was ur hrt 2nd phone compared to neetcode150? Was it system design or algo heavy or adhoc?

[drifting pelican]

This is true, I feel like past experience definitely helps if you don't go to a "target school" - it should be enough to compensate, after all the school you go to has no inherent indication of your ability to perform well during the interview (it can just help you get one)

[true vine]

what school?

[celest anvil]

Did u apply to swe intern? I thought algo dev intern does not ask that.

[hallow shoal]

i think quant shops are some of the places that place the highest impact on school

of course other things matter but school tier actually matters

[royal forge]

Spoiling 💀

[celest anvil]

Oh I was just asking about how algo heavy it's compared to neetcode. Like do you need fancy data structures to solve the problem for example. Just to make sure I will prepare as much as I can

[drifting pelican]

Of course, I didn't say that schools don't matter, I just said that past experience should contribute to one's ability to get an interview in these places as well

especially for these firms (meaning that I am well aware they place emphasis on school rank for recruitment)

[hallow shoal]

so my friend at CMU

hasn't gotten a single resume rejection this year from quant He has been doing AI research at CMU

no internships

just research

not that research is bad

[drifting pelican]

Would you say it doesn't? - It definitely does help

Yeah this is true - We wont ever know the true answer to this question anyways

[frigid zealot]

how hard is HRT OA?

codeforces div2 level?

[hallow shoal]

what was this for?

[stark crow]

HRT OA is codesignal

[hallow shoal]

which competition?

MIT trading?

[frigid zealot]

Also does HRT/JS/Jump/Citadel blacklist if you fail OA/Phone?

[hallow shoal]

how to not get JS resume reject

😭

[stark crow]

Seems p random

My friend got interview with target + amazon

[frigid zealot]

Didn't you get like 30+ offers

[stark crow]

Friend from same school didn’t get it with Amazon + asana + Shopify

[nocturne estuary]

i got resume reject from JS SWE never forgiving them until i reapply next year

[stark crow]

Other friend from same school got it with target + Bloomberg

Same school

[nocturne estuary]

i hate you wegon

[frigid zealot]

Is target like Ivy level for quants

wonder if UIUC is target too

[nocturne estuary]

yeah UIUC gets clout for being in chicago

[stark crow]

Ivy and Waterloo

[frigid zealot]

I'm based in London tho

hehe hopefully I'm target too ahahahaha

[hallow shoal]

haha

[nocturne estuary]

T10 CS maybe?

[hallow shoal]

honestly its not even ivy

its like MIT standford CMU

[stark crow]

UK’s prolly like ICL, Cambridge etc no?

[hallow shoal]

plus loo

[frigid zealot]

UCL 😦 literally 1 under ICL

[nocturne estuary]

it's really not though

[frigid zealot]

heard peeps got phone from JS though

[hallow shoal]

it really is

[frigid zealot]

I think so; time to do masters LMAO

[hallow shoal]

I go to cornell. I get resume reject from like half to 3/4 of quant

my friend at CMU

0 resume rejects

LOL

[nocturne estuary]

that's funny i go to cornell too

[drifting pelican]

wut

[hallow shoal]

STOP

:((

😭

[frigid zealot]

wonder if meta + amazon in resume helps doe

[hallow shoal]

my friend got 2 QR offers

[frigid zealot]

do quants look down on faang experience

[hallow shoal]

Lol

maybe he just cracked

[drifting pelican]

wait @hallow shoal do you have any previous internships

[hallow shoal]

zon

junior

Lol

java and react

[stark crow]

No

[hallow shoal]

😢

[stark crow]

Most people do faang -> quant lol

[hallow shoal]

My friend said that half of ACM Eboard is at JS next summer

true or nah

[frigid zealot]

oh lmao I graduate next year but I think Imma apply to quants next year instead of getting a job this year

[stark crow]

But also ^

[frigid zealot]

realized how vulnerable FAANG is in economic turmoil

[hallow shoal]

Meta layoffs :((

[frigid zealot]

yup was looking forward to return offer

literally everyone in London didn't get a return offer

[hallow shoal]

Five rings laughs in MIT

[frigid zealot]

0 hc

[hallow shoal]

nobody got return offer to FB

[drifting pelican]

yeah this is where school starts to matter a lot

[frigid zealot]

only peeps who started like really really really early did

[nocturne estuary]

FR also seems like a bad firm

for tech

[frigid zealot]

there was a blind post about how one meta intern's gf broke up with him and met another intern who got return offer

[hallow shoal]

Five Rings is like 60% of MIT

[hallow shoal]

true

Frying pan

got offer

but like who knows if they rescind given layoffs

[stark crow]

Now where will all the CMU and Loo grads go

[nocturne estuary]

like if you actually talk to 5r interns or anyone who goes through the the process its stupid, the intern project from what i understand is just maintaining the same old mock trading bot

[drifting pelican]

lets goooo

[hallow shoal]

hey if you get paid for it

:))

[nocturne estuary]

the QR phone was just a recruiter reading off a list of questions and seeing if you get them right

[frigid zealot]

I wonder if you can trick recruiters into thinking you're target school by abbreviating Minnesota Institute of Technology to MIT

(not a real school doe lmao)

[stark crow]

Wym

[hallow shoal]

BRUH

background check

into wtf

???

[stark crow]

Oh asana was low-level networking stuff in rust

[frigid zealot]

how do yall prepare for quant interviews doe

[stark crow]

Amazon project was on RDS that was a feature requested by DoorDash and Robinhood

[frigid zealot]

I only have like 300 LC but know I gotta study OS and low level stuff

[stark crow]

Shopify idr

[frigid zealot]

(SWE)

[hallow shoal]

read OSTEP

for fun

:))

[drifting pelican]

only 💀

[frigid zealot]

was OSTEP the dinosaur book

[hallow shoal]

before junior year haha

um its operating systems 3 easy pieces

[frigid zealot]

oh jk its not

[nocturne estuary]

honestly damn this chat is cringe with the subtle flexing you all need to chill out

[frigid zealot]

but peeps who have quant SWE offer; what was your LC count and did you have competitive programming experience?

I'm genuinely curious cuz I took DRW OA the other day and got insta reject

[nocturne estuary]

I had maybe 98 confirmed solved leetcodes, but i spent more time reading solutions

no competitive programming

[hallow shoal]

ok honestly DRW and IMC oa's

were so cancer

[frigid zealot]

DRW was some weird number theory shit

[hallow shoal]

LC count about like 400. Never did CP. First started Programming freshman fall

[hallow shoal]

I died on the DRW probability for SWE

I was like yep I'm fucked

[frigid zealot]

It was so funny cuz I had 3 Qs:

1. Number Theory which wanted O(log n) and not O(n)
2. Easy DFS
3. Weird Union Find

I thought I was safe solving Q1 but realized my code timed out with custom test cases

[nocturne estuary]

DRW is a cool place

[frigid zealot]

and then I just blanked out with Q3

[frigid zealot]

their OA scarred me for life tho

[nocturne estuary]

yeah i guess Citadel's OA is much easier in comparison

in retrospect

maybe not much easier

[hallow shoal]

citadel OA was not fun either

LOL

that was so math heavy lol