PBE 7.05 Discussion thread

[fleet meadow]

We got new voicemail from Jett. Foodies shenanigans.

One Email in range from Sova to Brimmy.
One Kingdom Email. K-sec to R&D

A new homescreen.

https://twitter.com/Shiick/status/1697747030163034115

https://twitter.com/Shiick/status/1697748814424051797

https://twitter.com/Shiick/status/1697748422747365779

Shiick (@Shiick)

Jett voicemail from 7.05. FOOD.

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Twitter · Sep 1, 2023, 11:03 PM

Shiick (@Shiick)

PBE emails:

Twitter · Sep 1, 2023, 11:10 PM

Shiick (@Shiick)

PBE 7.05 homescreen.

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[primal sun]

level 5 clearance o.o

[past temple]

A24 potentially retaliating against Landfall's upper hierarchy

[fleet meadow]

Paul is about to have personal security

[steep cove]

Paul must be out next agent am telling yall

[steep cove]

They tped to breeze

Case dismissed

[fleet meadow]

When I put this beside the cult-like behavior of the landfall techs I think this is actually going to be a headache

still no more info on interverse

ah heck

[steep cove]

Correction
It's a headache

[primal sun]

imagine atlas infiltrating kcorp and initiates landfall

[past temple]

Thing is tho, we did not see Akimbe in the cinematic, so it could be that whereever (presumably) Griffin teleported to, she might have regrouped with Akimbe, and then they are nabbed by an unknown party.

[primal sun]

omega akimbe /j

[mystic heart]

@primal sun has leveled up! (75 ➜ 76)

[fleet meadow]

The fact to Sova thinks Omega was involved in project landfall is a giant sign, flashing at us

[primal sun]

it fits in with how quickly omega vl got to sunset

[steep cove]

Was the omega team on sunset the REAL distraction

[fleet meadow]

Sova thinks the scientists were kidnapped.... but why?

[steep cove]

He is the hunter

That's why

[past temple]

orrrr it could just be that this is introducing a new faction and Sova's breadth of intelligence can only cover so much

[fleet meadow]

Was K-IND hell bent in not letting their progress be hindered again on Alpha?

[steep cove]

Hunter things

[fleet meadow]

should they not have pinged Cypher or Fade's radar?

[past temple]

It might be premature, but assuming the texture inside the player card being what it is, this could be whoever was supervising the situation from the Interverse itself, or at least assigned to it.

[steep cove]

[fleet meadow]

I'm going to ask you to post things related to the topic please and thanks

[past temple]

Otherwise, why kidnap only the Landfall team leadership, presumably the people with the highest clearance of intelligence?

[fleet meadow]

Question is, was Paul one of the people that's missing?

[past temple]

wait no pls not Paul

in all honesty, maybe, he didn't have clearance lv 5 for nothing

[fleet meadow]

Kingdom also seems to not think the science chief has escaped. I think that is why they are setting security escorts for high clearance people. they also suspect foul play

[past temple]

for all we know, Paul specializes in transit, no? so it could be that he's at supervisor-level-clearance for the logistics of Landfall

[fleet meadow]

Paul worked in transit hub but we can't be sure if that was his main role. he could be a supervisor there * scratches head* I still think he is a reality expert tbh

[past temple]

holup, reality expert? tbf i don't have like a detailed account on everything lore, so i might have missed that bit, but afaik he's in with logistics

[fleet meadow]

here's why I think he is a reality expert.
He was in the team working in Icebox, researching a mask that is literally for traversing dimensions.
He then was moved to Fracture, working with specialists from another universe with a high clearance.
His Omega counterpart works on the reality restoration project in Pearl's cathedral.
Alpha Paul's destination after Fracture was yet another project that deals with reality

[past temple]

That's a solid point, he seems to be dealing with reality-related stuff a lot, but the two aren't mutually exclusive. It could just be that Paul is a professional in dealing with the logistics of things from that scientific origin, not unlike how a postal logistics expert differs from a nuclear material logistics expert

[fleet meadow]

that's fair

[primal sun]

paul is the real hottie behind kingdom

[past temple]

honestly tho, it don't matter if they touch Paul there gone be hell to pay

[past temple]

Paul being secretly a corpo Channing Tatum is sending me

[fleet meadow]

#dev-q-and-a message

Man's too powerful

You know if Paul is in fact working with Chamber, I'm wondering if the added security makes things more difficult for them to communicate lol

[past temple]

Chamber would probably give Paul a damn satphone if they're so buddy buddy

keep your friends close and whatnot

also, another thing: is it just me or does it seem like there are still work done inside the Kingdom West facility? the Kingdom email doesn't rly specify anything so it seems like despite the fact that there is a gaping transdimensional portal like 30 feet down, they are still working, and moreover, with enhanced security, so there's even more personnel? Kingdom must have bought OSHA the way they be working around a literal lawsuit and nothing happens to them

[primal sun]

oh yeah they literally have those employees working overtime

paid overtime

free snacks

[past temple]

KNG be like "oh yeah your overtime is gonna be paid with exposure, so your work CV will be stellar"

[tall ravine]

Tbh thats one of the things that bothers me with the lore kingdom never gets anything happen to them from the shit they do wish we saw stuff like idk countries working against kingdom or protests and shit

[fleet meadow]

I think even if they end up moving the rest of the projects that was being carried out in that facility, they still need employees to show up to wrap things up or make it ready to move

and they know that facility is no longer secure

[primal sun]

that's just the kingdom PR team working triple overtime

but we have seen people against kingdom

not that it's ever worked

they're very powerful

[tall ravine]

But not any group

[past temple]

Big Energy be Big Energy-ing ig

[primal sun]

i mean Split has posters and shit against kingdom

Skye has taken physical action against kingdom

[fleet meadow]

honestly that is one thing that is understandable to me, because when they are running 75 percent of world's energy they have unimaginable leverage against any governement to cut them some slack... just look at how someone like zuckerberg gets away with having messed up with matters of national security and he is only active in social media stuff mainly. Kingdom getting away with murder wouldn't be too hard.

[tall ravine]

But like making an unstable portal under a crowded city

[fleet meadow]

except no one really knows how dangerous that is

[primal sun]

also kingdom has covered that up

[fleet meadow]

so they can hide it as "industrial accident that will be promptly dealt with"

[past temple]

also Kingdom relocated the locals from the vicinity (at least iirc from the Sunset in-game announcements)

[primal sun]

ofc that doesn't excuse anything and kingdom is still very much at fault, but with the amount of power and influence they have, it's a little understandable how they keep getting away with it

[tall ravine]

I dont know wish we have seen more of the people and group against kingdom

[fleet meadow]

like oil companies cause massive environmental problems and get away with a slap on the wrist

[tall ravine]

Probably one of the group(s) is the guys funding valorant

[fleet meadow]

I am almost dead certain the person/people supporting the VP have connections to the radianite trade. no other way to have this much money pumping into an organization fairly small

[tall ravine]

Yep

And vp probably use a lot of radianite as well

With their tech and stuff

[past temple]

inb4 Thurston Wolf? could be one way where Chamber caught wind of VP

[fleet meadow]

honestly I need David to drop another bomb like Thurston and no UK kingdom again.

love his lore drops out of nowhere sending us in a whirlwind

[past temple]

what there is no UK?

[primal sun]

no

[fleet meadow]

oh gimme a sec

[steep cove]

Anyone can explain

[mystic heart]

@steep cove has leveled up! (6 ➜ 7)

[fleet meadow]

That poster was part of the teasers for Breeze

[past temple]

oh i thought the entirety of the UK is just not there anymore i was abt to ask where Phoenix is from

[fleet meadow]

oh sorry my bad wording. Just not Kingdom subsidiary in UK

[primal sun]

the UK isn't real and any english people you know are paid actors type beat

[past temple]

Phoenix spawned in from the void confirmed /j

[past temple]

but that is intriguing, Kingdom covers 75% of energy needs on the planet, does that then mean the UK does not belong in that 75%? If so, who else?

[fleet meadow]

Phoenix's mom is Nigerian btw

[past temple]

oh neat!

[primal sun]

i think kingdom's presence could still be in the UK, but they don't have a specific subsidiary there maybe?

[steep cove]

Maybe south america

Or africa

[past temple]

don't mind me stuffing every thing Strawbs said into a google doc ✍️

[fleet meadow]

I would be shocked if UK does not tbh. as an industrial country they can't stay behind the rest of the world. They probably set too strict a ruleset for Kingdom if they wanted to have a base there maybe? Because not using radianite tech is so unbelievable to me in a country like UK

[primal sun]

^^

[steep cove]

I mean everything can change in the future
Maybe UK has fallen behind due to political issues or something

[fleet meadow]

When we see Phoenix's flat in his 2022 twitter take over, it doesn't seem like that is the case

[steep cove]

I forgot he is from there

[past temple]

Sidebar: Do we know if KNG has a presence in Germany (by way of KJ's scientific background)? If so there might be some meat to this bone. Afaik, if there is a reason that Germany does host a KNG facility, while the UK presumably does not, despite the fact that Germany has some of the stricter regulations in Europe, then that reason better be a damn good one

[primal sun]

this also makes me question how much offical subsidiaries kingdom has

[fleet meadow]

in all fairness Germany isnt an island that could be one reality problem away from becoming inhabitable hgfhjgghjfmhf

[fleet meadow]

but lemme take a looky

[past temple]

watch it just be a small kiosk in Birmingham that sells KNG souvenir

[half sable]

Hmm. I've just caught up on all of this and I wonder a bit: is it possible that the Landfall team are from Omega/K-IND?

[past temple]

that ... would make sense when factoring in the theory that Everett-Linde was a precursor to the energy problem that Landfall has to face

[half sable]

It's very convenient that the VL shows up all of a sudden right after the portal was destroyed. Like I suppose they are probably tracking massive radianite fluctuations like that, but it's so well-timed. And that one of the scientists escaped via portal?? Alpha doesn't have long-range portal tech. That had to be obtained from Omega by the VP

[fleet meadow]

You know what makes me doubt that a bit? because the lady at the terminal in Sunset's trailer didn't have the tell tale glitchy effect

[past temple]

or the portal tech could be reverse-engineered by KCORP and they are just yoinking the tech

[fleet meadow]

but maybe not all of them were but some of them were from K-IND

[past temple]

I WAS JUST REWATCHING THE TRAILER TO SEE ASHSGFASFK

[half sable]

My thing though is that I'm not sure if that glitch effect is a dead giveaway or if it's a signal to the audience when we're suppose to know somethings from Omega

[past temple]

maybe not Griffin herself, but her supervisor, Akimbe?

[fleet meadow]

didnt that one scientist escape from a portal that is like a bind portal? it was a alpha-alpha portal

[past temple]

it could just be creative differences and we be overthinking

[fleet meadow]

Akimbe is not directly part of landfall though, he is on the board of directors

[primal sun]

I think the Chromatic Aberration is meant to help distinguish which one is omega when there are mirror agents.

You can see this in the Shattered Cinematic with viper

[half sable]

It was blue, was it not? It could be short range, but to my knowledge, you can't locate the second node on the map anywhere, so where did it spit out?

[primal sun]

and the Revelation Cinematic with the assembled omega team at the end.

[fleet meadow]

yeah, and the Omega agents that showed up in Sunset were all glitchy too

[fleet meadow]

yeah the part that the teleporter was on is located outside the bounds of the map so we literally have no idea

[past temple]

something about the language used in the 7.01 email feels like it is less that Akimbe is one of the Board member, and more likely speaking on behalf of them

[fleet meadow]

however I agree with Lone in that at least someone in the project landfall was an Omega person

[half sable]

I wouldn't have had this suspicion before, but with the whole team suddenly disappearing makes me think "Omega??" Though the whole team being Omega is probably a stretch

[fleet meadow]

in a previous Email (I'll find you the version right away) we see that Akimbe is the one that keeps vouching for them to the board of directors. basically the main patron for Griffin's project

[past temple]

yeah i think i found it, the 6.08 one

[fleet meadow]

then later in 7.01

[fleet meadow]

tbh I think Omega could basically kidnapp the top scientists if they had one influential infiltrator

[primal sun]

chamber /j /j

chamber would be against this

i hope

...

[fleet meadow]

as far as we know, Griffin and his science chief are missing only. there are multiple other high clearance employees that are not missing

[fleet meadow]

what would be funny is if he is keeping Griffin where he is keeping Poe

[past temple]

Still though, the language being used is sounding a bit more in the direction of sth like, Akimbe is being set an expectation from the Board and is working under their support, since the language is less inclusive regarding the Board itself, so it feels like the Board is not actively engaging in Landfall, just that they are investing effort in it. But I do understand your pov

[fleet meadow]

UNLESS he didn't do anything to Poe and whoever kidnapped Poe, also kidnapped Griffin

[past temple]

oh dear

watch this mysterious party be behind the disappearance of Poe and Griffin and then revealed that they used Chamber's plan to facilitate the kidnapping

[past temple]

if this turned out to be correct, then calling it "divine intervention" would be a bit more apt cough cough Astral Guardians involvement cough cough

[fleet meadow]

I mean seriously who can tell if an entity on Omega just kidnapped Poe when he learned too much

[half sable]

[fleet meadow]

second time a chief scientist (assumingly from Alpha) goes missing without any clue. K-Sec's Email doesn't sound like Griffin escaped because shit hit the fan

it sounds like they really think he is missing

I feel like they really could use Fade's help here

She is the bounty hunter after all

hold on...

Abre los Ojos... the Nazars all over that...

[primal sun]

can someone send a pic of that mural

[fleet meadow]

This is one I have without any characters in front of it

will look for a better one a sec

found my screenshot!

[primal sun]

mmm

are we sure those are specifically nazars?

[fleet meadow]

tbh, we have not gotten confirmation for that. But considering they look identical to Nazar and specially the Nazar Fade has attached to the front of her jacket, I'd say it is a safe guess

the color theme of the graffiti being black, blue and red also is close to Fade's color palette which is another reason I feel like the eye element here is Nazar

[primal sun]

but i wonder why the artist chose the Nazar to use

im curious about the actual movie too

[fleet meadow]

oh I forgor to say, the actual movie also deals with how the dreams and realities can be mixed

and it is a thriller

another element that Fade also has

[primal sun]

i am aware of that, but i kind of want to see the movie itself

[mortal vale]

landfall people really just faded out of existence

like in SpongeBob

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-squidward-disappears-no-extra-pay-gif-23105584

literally landfall staff ^

[strange cedar]

ou wow soba email

[tall ravine]

Fade mentioned

Plot twist: there is a random function that kidnaps people including fade's missing guy

[raw oar]

If only Fade had been part of the team...

[raw oar]

Fade mentioned indeed

Cypher was in LA too but come on. If Fade felt the unease in Pearl, she would've 100% tracked the lost scientists as they were escaping

It's too early to make a prediction but maybe if Sova or Cypher can't find anything on their own, we could potentially see more of her

Also these lost scientists' search will 100% lead to the new Agent's inclusion, just watch

[strange cedar]

orrrr they can just bring this arc to a conclusion and bring new agents forth with the new one...

[tall ravine]

And the nazar motifs on the grafitti

[raw oar]

We're just looking for a Fade comeback

[past temple]

That would be one hell of a twist cus then we'd have Poe, Griffin and "Him", 2 of them were involved in some of Kingdom's biggest projects

[fleet meadow]

Ok I have a theory about who is the one that is kidnapping the scientists in sensitive projects

[half sable]

[fleet meadow]

See this card? The lost at sea card which was Breeze's map teaser; I've said this before in other threads too but those small boats make it seem like that container ship is being led to the island in front of it against its captain's will... and the fact that the French language poster we had advertising Breeze was also not from Kingdom really... What if Thurstan Wolf is the one that is taking these scientists one by one?

could it be that Chamber was led to that island because he was part of the people Thurstan needed for whatever the heck he is doing. He made a deal and managed to get away? I mean he clearly dislikes Breeze he has a voiceline " Goodbye paradise and good riddance"

But the same thing is happening less diplomatically to other scientists who are just being flat out kidnapped?

I mean not only Thurstan is one of the few people on alpha who knew about the multiverse, he wanted to make a bridge to another dimension. Why would he want that?

I am seeing these scientists as pieces of a puzzle that are being taken to make something

[inland bluff]

Not only that, but there is some genuine conflict even among the people that they gentrify
Like, just from the announcements we got in Sunset, there are lines like these:

Ok Vale, I've rambled enough and I wanna hear from you all. What do you all think about Kingdom? Earth's guardian angle or another big soulless megacorp? we're taking calls for the next 30 so come onnn, hit us up

Look I get it, there is no doubt Kingdom's clean energy thing has totally changed the world, I mean my whole crib is running on it. The tech is sexy, it is easy to use and it is literally saving the planet

I know I'm showing my age here but who remembers the last time we had to pay a gas bill? and it used to cost so much just to keep the lights on! Now I pay almost nothing for energy! it is crazy how much things have changed!

When you have total control over the energy market, you can get away with crazy cheap prices
Throwing all their 'we're working so save the world guys! We'd never do anything morally questionable!' PR, this itself does mean that the public starts off with a baseline positive view of them - apparently, enough so to warrant real debate (judging from the first announcement of the three) about whether they have a net positive effect, even after having opened up a massive sinkhole in the middle of a crowded city

You won't need to bother with manipulating governments if there isn't that much public outcry against your wrongs

Ofc there will be exceptions like Raze and Skye that crop up, but from the look of things actions like theirs are the exception, not the norm

[inland bluff]

Also on that topic
This mission kinda confirms that Kingdom is definitely not the entity funding the VP, right?

[fleet meadow]

Kingdom as a company is not backing them no but someone inside Kingdom still could.

Say someone on the board of directors that does not see eye to eye with everything Kingdom is doing but is not showing it

it is difficult to get their hands on all the resources and radianite they need without someone really influential behind them

Also Brim insists on making proper reports of different things going on in the VP, from dating policy to the recent mission; It is more than just logging events, he is reporting to someone

[inland bluff]

Good point

[ancient basin]

Now that you mention it, I kinda see the malicious intent of the boats now. I’ve always thought they were tugs escorting the Meridian out of the harbor on her journey

[strange talon]

In fact what if the landfall program wasn't meant to land in the area of Venice liftoff in the first place, the research we've seen so far is aimed at adapting various animals to radiation environments, what if the purpose of this technology was in the first place to allow humans to adapt to radiation environments in the future as well, such as surviving in Omega environments, then aren't the people who set up the project spies for Omega Earth? They came to the Kingdom Corporation on α-Earth in order to borrow a lot of resources for their experiments, and have already returned to Ω-Earth with their research materials, so maybe the Ω-agents who appeared at the end of the CG were there to pick them up.

Sorry, I always tend to complicate simple questions hahaha

After all, this experiment requires a lot of Radianite, which KINGDOM has plenty of on hand, but is very scarce on the Omega Earth side of the world

[fleet meadow]

Oooooooh you're thinking Griffin and co were not kidnapped in the first place, they were Omega people and escaped back to their earth

oh heck the Omega VL coming in to back them up when things go wrong could make a lot of sense if that is the case

Honestly the only thing that makes me doubt that is the lack of chromatic aberration around Griffin's assistant in the cinematic when the Omega agents had that

The thing is... VL also has a gekko, meaning they already knew about the radivores and possibly what they can do

[strange cedar]

oh you are cooking

[past temple]

i see the kitchen be looking busy huh

[past temple]

that would then beg the question, what is the extent of knowledge on Radivores does VL/K-IND have?

and if the namesake is to be indicative of how they power themselves, with the ongoing Radianite crisis that Omega has, how do Radivores existing in Omega make sense?

[primal sun]

I think the fact that they did not have any color fringe around them is because their mirrors were not in the cinematic

The only time the effect is used is if both agents are present in the same cinematic

Shattered’s omega viper did not have that

Neither did revelation’s omega agents

Because of this I think the main purpose of it is to have visual clarity and not to cause confusion between who is who

[strange cedar]

considering that was on Omega it isn't too surprising, but Astra and Harbor weren't glitchy anyway as well

[primal sun]

I think the same could be said for Retake, although it was before the multiverse reveal, they purposely did not show that they had both omega Phoenix and yoru

[fleet meadow]

I was thinking of this the other day as well as I was watching the shattered cinematic. I also was thinking Neon and Reyna and KJ should also have that around them since they are in their non-native reality but they also did not... could be the case

[primal sun]

Oh and also the China cinematic! It took place on alpha afaik and also did not have a mirror match. Omega agents there didn’t have color fringe iirc

[past temple]

oh that is a very good observation

i didn't even notice that

[past temple]

Also I don't think we've touched the "flux radianite" bit, cus that has been flying under the radar and it could be something pivotal to the plot later on

(Referring to this btw)

[primal sun]

I’ve asked about it before but idk

[past temple]

I have a sneaking suspicion that "flux radianite" is the wiggly arm tattoo that connects Gekko to the lil buddies, but no supporting evidence of that yet so I'm leaving that theory alone for now.

The only reasoning for this theory is that this is the first time we heard of it, and also the first time we've seen a human-radivore connection. They could be totally unrelated and I'm hella projecting, but who knows

[primal sun]

Because the announcement says it’s highly volatile I think it might mean that it’s radianite that unpredictably changes states or something of that sort

[inland bluff]

Ooh
That would mean that the wound from a Radivore kinda... injects Radianite into the human's body?

[ancient basin]

I mean they eat radianite

If I can get bitten by an animal and get infected with some disease I expect a radivore bite to transmit radianite into my bloodstream

[primal sun]

If the radianite is highly volatile I don’t think it would be safe in your bloodstream ngl

[ancient basin]

But what if I’m compatible?

[inland bluff]

That question implies that not being compatable would mean you just instantly die

And if you are... well, in a regular case you would become a Radiant, but somehow when the radianite gets supplied by a radivore you'd just be bonded to them
Which in turn means that Radivores can alter the properties of Radianite itself

[ancient basin]

I mean… I won’t be surprised if that’s true