#UNMADE Episode 7 Cinematic Discussion

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rigid plank
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bottom right

red solar
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i think the fact that the reserve ran out is part of the reason the bear could escape

rigid plank
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me neither bro I litearlly play papa's freezeria in all my chem classes

solemn echo
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Looks like a 2

red solar
vale mist
solemn echo
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PO2 (partial pressure of oxygen) reflects the amount of oxygen gas dissolved in the blood. It primarily measures the effectiveness of the lungs in pulling oxygen into the blood stream from the atmosphere. Elevated pO2 levels are associated with: Increased oxygen levels in the inhaled air.

rigid plank
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oh its pressure??

solemn echo
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Screw you mobile

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I thought I did that fast

worn perch
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i mean

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uh

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LORE

rigid plank
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there we go Ducc its not even chemiustry

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WHAT THERES A PAPAS FREEZERIA 2???

vale mist
rigid plank
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I'VE BEEN PLAYING THE COOLMATHGAMES ONE THIS WHOLE TIME

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OMFG THIS LOKS SICK

solemn echo
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I haven't played a Papa's game in years

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I remember it being too stressful

worn perch
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i got it "legally"

solemn echo
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Anyways Dorsey was actually trying to log into steam on the computer so he could download Papa's freezeria 2 that's how this connects to lore

rigid plank
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omfg

worn perch
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the bear was violent because he didnt get a perfect order

red solar
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Stop projecting /j

vale mist
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Back to lore
So what's the consensus on what the Radivores are?
Do we consider them to be 'Radiant', or would something like 'Radianite-mutated' be a better word?

worn perch
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artificial radiants

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or like

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a step towards that

vale mist
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I want to speculate that the purple glow stuff is a part of the Radivore creation process, but that would mean that it's mostly unrelated to Radiance as we think of it

vale mist
red solar
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I’ve seen several theories

rigid plank
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I would say 'radianite-mutated' implies radiance (in most scenarios)

red solar
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Fair

worn perch
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i do think that

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thats probably the best term for now

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cuz they are mutated

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and they are related to radianite

rigid plank
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Omen, Gekko's creatues, the bear, they're all 'radianite-mutated' but they all also possess radiant attributes

red solar
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That one was confirmed

worn perch
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lotus?

vale mist
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#dev-q-and-a message

worn perch
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well...

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wouldnt the plants be different

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i mean

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i guess not now that i think about it

red solar
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#lore-and-theories message

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Very cool

vale mist
# rigid plank Omen, Gekko's creatues, the bear, they're all 'radianite-mutated' but they all a...

See, the point I was trying to make is that there seems to be some fundamental distinction in what we see with your typical Radiant vs the Radivores/Omen/what have you
For Radiants, we know it's specifically because of a radianite reaction that is facilitated because of latent genetics
For Radivores/Omen, it seems that the "radiance" is rather forced onto the victim specimen, seemingly regardless of the underlying genetic factor
You get a similar end result, but by taking different paths to get there

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They are different processes, each with their own different systems
Take, for example, how all the Radivores seem to possess a form of hard plating that develops on their backs (mosh is an exception to this, possibly because we know he is a child and so not fully developed?)

red solar
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How would you force “radiance” on someone though

worn perch
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thats what kingdom wants to know

vale mist
red solar
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Idk maybe it’s just the wording of ‘forcing radiance’

rigid plank
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Ah ok so you're trying to say that artificial radiants shouldn't be considered proper radiants

vale mist
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I am bad at words

rigid plank
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lol its okay we all are

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I think they should definitely be categorised differently but I would still put them under the umbrella of 'radiant'

red solar
worn perch
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i mean, omen is much more "radiant" than the radivores

rigid plank
red solar
vale mist
worn perch
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radiance is a spectrum

red solar
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“Those who are Radiants, and the extent of there powers, is largely a result of two things. There unique genetic makeup, and how it predisposes them to react, absorb and be affected by an external event or sequence of events that involves Radianite.”

rigid plank
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💀 my brother just came into my room and called me a nerd cos i had the valorant cinematic open

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i mean i am a nerd

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but still

vale mist
red solar
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I feel like you just have to modify their genetics or have radianite mutate their genes if you mean

vale mist
worn perch
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i mean

knotty star
worn perch
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who says they arent already predisposed to radianite

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did everyone who is naturally predisposed become a natural radiant?

red solar
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Which would mean their genetics have already been unique

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Which I guess would mean it was passed down from generation to generation

rigid plank
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Would anyone be able to provide a transcription of what Deadlock says in Norweigan when she says "You are unmade!"

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just for wiki purposes

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nvm found it

sage jungle
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I hadn't seen these chemicals mentioned in the teaser! Very interesting...

sage jungle
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I think Kingdom's end goal here is to either generate controllable bioweapons or try to manipulate radiance on living beings, humans being their end goal.

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This is purely hopium but, if Omen was a part of this experiment somehow, I'd love to get an email from either Sage or Viper about the teased mention to Landfall Lab in LA

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(I just want to call it LFHQ at this point 😂)

ancient sierra
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oh I remember the question I had last night in bed

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at the beginning of the cinematic we see a helicopter flying away from the confinement facility from what seems like the front entry... the same direction the drone was heading in the first social media teaser. how come Sova didn't catch that, if the beacon he received was in fact Deadlock's communicator thing? were they in the facility for that long?

vale mist
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Deadlock was probably in there, unconscious, for several hours - maybe multiple days

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As if we needed more evidence that she was a queen

ancient sierra
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perhaps the bear annihilation cauterised her arm, because otherwise she would have been deadge pretty quickly from all that blood loss. how does that explain the sudden beacon pickup then though?

sage jungle
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Iirc, help signals fade after a while. This is the case with blackboxes on airplanes, as they can send signals for only about 60 to 90 days when triggered. This could be the case with Deadlock's activated beacon, meaning Sova has found her a good while after her losing consciousness; or it simply has to do with the facility having the walls of a fortress 😂

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I think the latter is a more feasible option here. The team is related to Kingdom, so if something went wrong (which did happen), they'd be deploying teams to check the facility again.

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But Sova sees no signs of life as he approaches, so I'm thinking he made it just in time to save Deadlock

civic karma
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but before entering the building anna says power is off for containment too....

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I did expect them to be shocked too tbh

civic karma
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I still think that purple glow is a portal

vale mist
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It is still weird that that specific thing happened to stay on in the shelter's "emergency mode" though

civic karma
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and tbh the reason I am thinking this has something to do with the animal made portal is that the color of it matches 100 percent with the purple wash over both earths in homescreen of Gekko escaping. as if a radianit animal has its own connection to the radianite mesh

red solar
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I feel like if it did escape through a portal there wouldn’t be damage to glass

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And Dorsey doesn’t even say anything about the purple

civic karma
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as in the glass was broken after the animal got loose not while it was escaping

tall tartan
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I don't think that's phosphorous. Rather, those all look like vital signs. Plus do you see the number/number formal in the measurement? That suggests it's actually a blood pressure reading. I believe these may be the vital signs for our radivore bear

red solar
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sadlasdk lone scroll down

tall tartan
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They didn't mention the PS, only the pO2

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Shhh

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It's fine

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Also when Insendo said pressure with no context I was all "Ah, atmospheric pressure, which is measured in mmHg"

red solar
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oh i see

tall tartan
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But the pressure is distracting us from the internal temperature of this bear being -10C

red solar
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is it still tracking the bear there?

sage jungle
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Seems like we could be doing a separate Radivore page on the wiki with more info like this skyeLeer

tall tartan
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Almost. We just need the radivore term to be confirmed, lol

sage jungle
robust fulcrum
tall tartan
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With the buddies I wouldn't be too worried since they might be amphibians or reptiles and could be fine with lower body temps

sage jungle
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Not a 100% but I think we were given the clues, especially with this 👀 #lore-and-theories message

tall tartan
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We very much should wait for an official spelling. That's my actual hold up

robust fulcrum
tall tartan
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I would hate for everyone to think it's radivores then have radovores be released, or something like that

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Also changing the name of a wiki page is a huge pain in the ass

sage jungle
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True. I don't think we have that much info on them currently, so we can wait for more info

sage jungle
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The tracker is focused on her signal, and the "temperature" part isn't for the body, but for the environment.

red solar
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they're not on her bracelet iirc

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it's on another screen right?

sage jungle
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Nope

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It's just a closeup of the bracelet

red solar
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oh ok

sage jungle
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But on the left side, a white uniform is visible

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So it's Deadlock's

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We also see the same big signal after Frøya's death

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Also my guess is that she can track both hers and her allies' vitals from the bracelet, hence the buttons at its right side & two titles flashing red after Anna and Frøya's deaths, suggesting they were K.I.A.

red solar
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yeah

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i thought the screen was something else

tall tartan
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You're right! I was just watching the cinematic again, lol

sage jungle
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I don't think I've watched SHATTERED this much 😂

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I love it so much

red solar
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unmade and shattered have their own charms

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i like them both

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but honestly not more than one another

sage jungle
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SHATTERED was my all-time favorite

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This comes close to being #1

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I've missed cinematics so much

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It's also been 6 months since REVELATION, which is just crazy

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Time flies by so fast

knotty star
sage jungle
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I just noticed this. Could this possibly mean that Dizzy was developed in Svalbard? Or that there are multiple Dizzy's? Or is this vial simply teleported from the lab in LA from which Gekko stole Dizzy?

red solar
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tbh i don't think it's whatever dizzy shoots at people

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the pattern is very different

sage jungle
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It seems similar to the purple stuff the radivores are stored in

red solar
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honestly i took it as more of

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fancy radianite stuff

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because of the triangles

sage jungle
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It doesn't matter what it is because we can't possibly guess what it is, but the fact that it has Dizzy's symbol on it

red solar
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it could be because dizzy was one of the first

wild belfry
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arcane shimmer

fierce lark
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I was actually thinking about what the difference between gekko and deadlock, in fact, lies in the fact that Gekko's pet is like and identify with him, while deadlock and the bear that appears in the animation is hostile, so the ability to communicate with the radiation creature if it is actively given by the radiation creature, then that strange tattoo may be more like a contract that will only remain on your body if the radiation creature recognizes you as the master, otherwise it is merely temporary

civic karma
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This is a very interesting look at it. Considering Deadlock now has the voiceline about Gekko that says " he could not make the hard choice; I will" does that mean she felt a connection but did not act on it, because she thought it was wrong maybe I wonder

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I am also thinking that it seems like Kingdom has not learned about this bonding process yet

red solar
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i thought " he could not make the hard choice; I will" meant that she was going to kill them

fierce lark
civic karma
sage jungle
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I'm thinking that the bond alters your judgment, to an extent. Deadlock heard the bear calling out to her, and possibly felt its pain through the bond, but refused to release the bear or act on her impulse to set it free.

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Gekko's critters are a different case IMO as they are cute and friendly, so Gekko possibly overlooked the dangers of bonding.

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Deadlock's voiceline goes: "[...] Gekko gambles his own life for those creatures. He couldn't make the hard choice. I will."

We don't know how Gekko is "gambling" his life, exactly. Does the bond hurt him? Or is Deadlock possibly referring to Kingdom searching for the creatures?

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Also, Deadlock is likely referring to killing the creatures as a "hard choice". The way I see this is that, even though the creature killed her entire crew, the bond was still strong enough to question whether she was making the right choice.

red solar
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I personally thought “gambling his life” meant that he was putting himself in danger by being around them

nocturne tangle
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I agree with seb here

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Gekko is the sort of person to throw his life away ot save his Blorbos

tall tartan
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Could also be the long-term side effects of blorbo bonding

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Btw, now that we have a better idea of how Gekko's "radiance" came about, I wonder what tipped Sage off that his form of radiance was different cypherthinking

red solar
tall tartan
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She wouldn't, that's why it's a gamble

red solar
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Oh well

red solar
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she aims her nanowire at wingman and goes like "you have no idea what they're capable of"

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the only danger she's known about them is the fact that they could be really strong and the one she did encounter killed 3 people

tall tartan
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Hmm, that's true. Though she did also encounter it going into her mind and influencing her thoughts. After seeing Gekko bonded with his little guys, she could be concerned for him in that regard

sage jungle
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I remember a discussion about Yoru's radiance hurting him

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Did we have a resource that claimed that or am I just remembering a theory

cerulean mulch
vale mist
sage jungle
civic karma
sage jungle
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My point is that the same could go for Gekko's radiance

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The bond he has with the critters could be physically hurting him

civic karma
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tbh rifts are very volatile and rather unstable environments... we still don't know what the dynamic of the bond between the radivore and its hooman friend is like

sage jungle
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That made me imagine Gekko's process of adopting (?) the creatures

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What'd he tell his mom

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"So yeah I stole these blorbos bc they were cute and now I'm on the wanted list of a megacorp" killjoyLaugh

civic karma
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I mean his mom most probably found out when the deed was already done, so might as well take care of the blorbos astraLUL

vale mist
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Backreading #lore-and-theories and stumbling across the cypher wire talk made me think

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Deadlock calls the spools of thread she uses 'Nanowire'

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Which would imply that they are strings or fibres whose thickness is in the order of Nanometers

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Ignoring how incredible it is that wires to thin are capable of retaining their integrity even under great tension (insert 'Radianite' meme here'), I want to point out that these things are also gonna be sharp

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Imagine it, being caught in a nanowire net is like several taught lines, each so small that it can cut through skin and muscle with ease, all binding themselves around you

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The bear should have been cut up to pieces right here

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knotty star
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yeah i went down this rabbit hole, and came down to the same conclusion that if "nanowires" are an actual thing, with enough structural integrity to pin down anyone, would have enough strength to sashimi literally anything caught in it

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i think a better way to think of it would be ... a transparent blanket?

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if we stick to the actual name, the naked eye cannot perceive anything that's at nanoscale, so those blue outline could just be the framework that those wires actually cling to to achieve its desired effects, like hampering movement or pinning something down

tall tartan
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The wires do seem to have some give though, unlike, say, a steel mesh, which could cut something

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I imagine the wires are put together more like rope than a traditional wire