#Patch 6.10 Discussion

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buoyant island
raven grove
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Landfall being Italy-based makes me think Kingdom is researching a method to pull Venice to the ground.

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hence, "land" "fall"

unkempt forge
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surely the blorbos were initally going to be used to catch venice when it fell back to the ground

noble zenith
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I'm convinced that the KSEC secure email is definitely from a Ragged Raven

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if they bring Tariq back imma be pissed tho

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just randomly resurrect him guys it's fine

unkempt forge
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I don't think the writers would do that

raven grove
unkempt forge
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I was gonna do the red circle around it with the arrow pointing to freddy thing but I was too lazy πŸ’€

dense pasture
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curious how VP apparently demands their personnel to leave their past life behind, but that doesn't seem to count for Brimstone

noble zenith
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doesn't seem it applies to most agents nowadays

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Neon doesn't seem to count

elfin bison
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Ofc not, hes the boss

raven grove
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There seems to be a lot of bias towards agents with Kingdom/K-Sec affiliation keeping most of their past life

dense pasture
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surely that's Brim's doing

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I guess it depends on where the agent has worked before joining/what they did before

soft trench
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no voicemail this patch? womp womp

raven grove
dense pasture
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frπŸ’€

soft trench
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lack of buildup for new agent makes me think it's gonna be something like gekko where their introduction is revealed AFTER they're in protocol πŸ˜…

elfin bison
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Top tier meme

dense pasture
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and that makes me sadge

elfin bison
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Brim is kinda sus to me

dense pasture
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because so far man I just don't care about Gekko

noble zenith
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Gekko hasn't had any solid lore that makes him interesting

elfin bison
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Im still waiting for a reason to have gekko on the team, lore speaking

noble zenith
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just vague ideas

raven grove
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All he did was steal pokemon

dense pasture
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not even his vls are interesting or tell us something

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most of them are just kind of... lazy

steel steeple
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no voicemail is kind of disappointing

soft trench
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yeahh 😭 part i was looking forward to most

steel steeple
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ep 7 in a month and no real buildup or anything lore related outside of the patches…. ehh

dense pasture
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bruh

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voicemails are like my favourite thing about patch days

elfin bison
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I would like them to stop introducing characters and focus on the ones we have

dense pasture
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yes please

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they won't do that, but I'd love them if they did

noble zenith
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any Skye lore please

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please?

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no? okay thanks riot

dense pasture
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also, now that it was Fade's anniversary, that marks an entire year that Sova had any relevancy in lorebrimstoneHidethepain

elfin bison
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They should do it, the lore population isnt as big and we all want the same. Gamers dont care about lore so there is literally no need to keep introducing new names

noble zenith
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KAYOs only relevancy is that his core sucks

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πŸ˜”

dense pasture
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at least he gets voicemails

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I saw that

raven grove
dense pasture
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what made you change your mind

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tell me, don't be shy

soft trench
raven grove
dense pasture
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as far as I remember he has had at least three voicemails since

raven grove
dense pasture
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true

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but CONTENT still

raven grove
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i can see the nephew vmail being somewhat relevant to strengthening brim and breach's relationship tho

raven grove
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a voicemail

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or 2

dense pasture
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one

raven grove
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since fade

dense pasture
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ONE

raven grove
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oh

dense pasture
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oh wait

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no two nevermind lmaoo

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I don't know my lore

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but they were both ages ago

raven grove
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they should introduce valorant lore class into every education system

soft trench
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only one in the past 2 acts right?

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episodes*

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i think the one after fade was at the end of episode 4

dense pasture
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yess

soft trench
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& then the one about his injury

dense pasture
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the one about the 'non-life-threatening' injury but at this point I'm sure it was and now he is just

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deadge

soft trench
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LOOOL

dense pasture
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he got bored of not getting to do anything

serene pumice
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I keep pretty close tabs on the ATLAS emails, and I can't figure out what it's in reference to. It sounds like a new on-side incident happened, but???

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What I mean is. It's clearly not in reference to the initial activation of Lotus. We know that because no one from ATLAS was present from that incident, but for this one, they're suggesting interviewing personnel, aka witnesses to the accident

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Given the injuries of a concussion and an amputation of the hand, it sounds like they may have attempted to activate The Nexus and the device retaliated

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(I'm assuming concussion leading to a coma, or likewise)

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Also hold up. If ATLAS wants to turn on The Nexus and the VL wants to turn it on as well, why don't they just go back and turn it on? Nothing is stopping them, not really

buoyant island
uncut musk
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Gekko buddies were supposed to catch ascent sahaquiel style

uncut musk
serene pumice
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Hmm. A bit strange that the sender of the most recent email is concerned about the company not being transparent, and that they're surprised to discover a secret facility. We know Fracture was in development for over a year, probably 2 years ago at this point, so K-CORP being secret isn't that new. But they appear to be, perhaps, being more overt with it? Is it perhaps a sign of shader practices, or what?

buoyant island
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I think it is mainly that as Kingdom's research expands they face more research that needs to classified for various reasons, from political to safety to keeping the rivals out reasons. However, we should also remember Kingdom has had 3 major security breaches in recent years from Yoru's Mask being stolen from Icebox to Fracture being fried and then the Blorbos being stolen. All three were really sensitive research, the parties responsible for either of these incidents have never been found. It does make sense for Kingdom higher ups to become more cagey with information and more paranoid with their newer sensitive projects. Their top priority projects constantly get sabotaged so things are not quite right for them.

cinder plover
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if most predictions are correct regarding Landfall being about bringing Venice back down, does that not mean a divergence from KAY/O's timeline?

cinder plover
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also, it sounds like insubordination rly do go brr at ATLAS astraLUL they be losing limbs and getting yeeted into a coma and stuff over there astraLUL

serene pumice
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Idk if they meant for that tp happen, lol. More like they're in the find out stage of fucking around

cinder plover
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Yeah astraLUL
To be fair, this is going from the hypothesis that Astra and ATLAS has different perspective of what Lotus is. That being: ATLAS is working from a scientific trial-and-error method of figuring out the function(s) of the site, and if possible, its historical significance to their reality, while Astra is working off of (I hope) some form of memory or recollection that is inherent for current Guardians.
All that is just fancy schmancy way of saying, Astra might know what Lotus does, but not how it does it, while ATLAS knows how Lotus does its things, but not what those things are for.

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It's not like Rito is gonna confirm jack shit skyeLeer here's coping that next PBE has juicy stuff too brimstoneHidethepain

uncut musk
cinder plover
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(or maybe coworker, who knows, cus the homie is ||REDACTED|| )

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But this line makes me think that Astra has that Guardian backstage pass skyeLeer

serene pumice
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What I wonder though. If ATLAS is trying to activate Lotus, even on accident, why isn't it more of a concern for the VP?

sacred torrent
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brim is being sneaky .. i dont like it . im also so sad about the lack of actual lore . especially for skye and gekko , pls give us SOMETHING i dont CARE about maxbot anymore

cinder plover
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combine that with ATLAS swarming Lotus, and it's not exactly happy-go-merry between VL and ATLAS, it's unlikely that something like that would happen again

uncut musk
cinder plover
uncut musk
cinder plover
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good luck untangling it tho hollow astraLUL

uncut musk
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the way its literally strangling the main tower

cinder plover
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oooh kinky i mean what

uncut musk
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it wasn't here for some

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reason

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(inconsistancy)

cinder plover
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✨ Radianite ✨

uncut musk
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i think the idea is that C site is where most of the power is produced

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so they blew it up

cinder plover
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that's plausible, or it could be where most of the power is stored, either way, good luck turning it on with no radioactive battery

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inb4 they just chuck Rad borgirs into C site to replenish tho hollow astraLUL

uncut musk
cinder plover
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It's but a comma, compared to the lifetime of the Guardians astraLUL

solar bloom
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The Omen voicemail about Maxbot no? @steel steeple @soft trench

soft trench
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yeahh i realized after looking in lore announcements

solar bloom
solar bloom
noble zenith
solar bloom
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Like pls rito, don't just introduce us to something new and then leave us hanging

noble zenith
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how are they supposed to siphon content out of their fans if they don't???? smh

solar bloom
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True

buoyant island
buoyant island
buoyant island
noble zenith
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His powers are kind of niche but they're still powers

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telepathy but ONLY with these little guys

buoyant island
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yeah that is why Sage is talking about a Radiance spectrum

noble zenith
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We have Radiants who could actually collapse the universe into a black hole if they tried, and then Gekko, who just has some little fishy friends

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Forever wondering why Astra teamed up with Reyna on Alternate Earth but if they take this long just to tell us who Gekko even IS I don't have my hopes up

buoyant island
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yeah... the pacing of lore delivery and how much it covers the story each time is definitely something to restructure

solar bloom
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True

solar bloom
noble zenith
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they have more than enough resources to have a completely separate lore timeline to patch releases, it honestly baffles me why they refuse to use them. It feels so inherently counter intuitive

half sentinel
# buoyant island https://twitter.com/Strawberry79/status/1661075989537906688

For Landfall, I know some had mentioned the theory that its referring to Ascent and bringing it back to the ground. I was just scrolling thru and notice that for the Radiant War, there was a line mentioning "Dopo Secoli dalla sua Ascesa, Venezia Affonda [After centuries of it's rise, Venice falls]" could this be foreshadowing? Or perhaps the line is just referring to Venice falling metaphorically

buoyant island
# half sentinel For Landfall, I know some had mentioned the theory that its referring to Ascent ...

The timeline and events of the universe KAY/O comes from does not really match Alpha... for example in that headline in the trailer it says " after centuries of its rise" meaning either in KAYO's universe Venice rose in the middle ages OR it is way way in the future which then can create some inconsistencies. IF Kay/O's timeline is happening in future is not a definite future, it is a possible one which might not happen in Alpha.

half sentinel
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so perhaps venice falls earlier

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in alpha

buoyant island
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IF it falls. Remember if Landfall is a project that is really about lowering Venice then it could work, but also might not work.

half sentinel
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right, assuming that it is referring to that

buoyant island
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true

half sentinel
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and just chambers all over the project

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lol

cinder plover
cinder plover
half sentinel
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I just want more lore man

noble zenith
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we all do SCGhoodie

cinder plover
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i mean if this is a multi-year project rivaling the scale of LoL, multiple threads is possible, including the inception of the Radiant Wars fadestare

half sentinel
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I need a valorant show similar to arcane

noble zenith
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trust me I'm sitting here seething and coping wishing my favorites had more than 15 minutes explanation of lore

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(and that's like, at most .)

cinder plover
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i don't think we will get it any time soon neonSob the main thread of lore is ... in its infancy, and even with outside threads like Yoru's storyline or Chamber's, at most we'd have like, a very patchwork, incoherent season of Valorant hollow

half sentinel
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also it's interesting to see in Brim's office that valorant protocol is apparently a "private sector consulting" I think

cinder plover
half sentinel
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I do wonder if Brim will respond

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and if he does

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what would he say

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about the creatures

cinder plover
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i hope so, this is kind of a pivotal moment for Brim's lore, seeing whether or not his work with VP is more important that his camaraderie in K/SEC

noble zenith
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I feel like it'll definitely be a telling point as to whether or not he's ready or willing to move on from everything that's happened at K/SEC

cinder plover
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hopium that this is one of the catalyst that makes Reyna hate Brim more, and KAY/O being someone with future insight, will surprisingly be the one to mediate it, despite the fact that he was made to dawg on Radiants astraLUL that'd be one hell of a story wouldn't it

noble zenith
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KAY/O is definitely gonna become more important once we establish Brim's either willingness to move on or vice versa (this is extreme hopium for any kind of meaningful bounds in their relationship)

half sentinel
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I can see Reyna finding out that Brim still contacts/is contacted by Kingdom and thus it drives her to want to split off from protocol

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since she is already distrusting towards tech and humans

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Because I think devs once said when you're in protocol you gotta wipe your past life

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and it's quite hypocritical the captain of protocol still has links to his past employment

cinder plover
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yeah and if Rito can make Garen and Katarina fall in love, I believe they are capable of making KAY/O a more fluid character than "I was made to dawg on Radiants, it ain't gonna change now" hollow astraLUL

noble zenith
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he already has so much potential

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we can already very very clearly see how much he cares about Brim

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He is the person who had to watch Brim be at his worst and then fucking die, I don't think he wants to go through that again nor allow Brim to go down that hole of dispair

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this would be a very reasonable way to allow KAYO to have more character development / open up more emotionally about Alternate Earth

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since we know it affects him so much that even Fade can tell

cinder plover
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do we know whose consciousness KAYO was molded from?

half sentinel
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theory was brim's best friend right?

cinder plover
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yeah i remember that too, although i am not too sure

noble zenith
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no, but I don't think it matters. I think KAYO is his own person at this point, and doesn't have any memories of anyone he was modeled after

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His own experiences have made him a different person

noble zenith
# carmine epoch What?

KAYO speaks of Astra being on the Radiant side of the Radiant war in his voice lines, how devastatingly powerful she was, despite her obvious dislike of Reyna on Alpha

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We don't know the reason why they worked together, it seems as though the Astra he fought and the Astra he currently works with are two very different people so far

half sentinel
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it's possible astra and reyna got along better in his other timeline

noble zenith
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many things are possible with the Radiants honestly. he doesn't give much insight beyond his hatred of them and how they hurt people lol

half sentinel
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for me, I wonder which side Omen is on. Because of his connections with Viper, yet he's a radiant so it would seem like he'd pick the radiant side

noble zenith
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I don't think KAYO has ever mentioned Omen as a Radiant?

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the only voice line I can think of for Omen is a commend voiceline

cinder plover
noble zenith
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KAYO obviously knows most of the Radiants but he doesn't have comments on all of them

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some might not have been active or picked a side during the war

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and I don't think he was created at the beginning of said war, either

cinder plover
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true, or maybe he was just not there to absolutely wreck their shit astraLUL

half sentinel
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I can't wait to see Omen dog on maxbot

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high key

noble zenith
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true! but I feel like just from his trailer it's not unreasonable to assume that his creation was when the war was already raging

cinder plover
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oh that reminds me, KJ very recently worked on KAYO, i imagine that Reyna will have some strong words about that on the future reynaSip

noble zenith
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KJ seems to take a liking to KAYO in general, as both a project and a person, and that definitely doesn't help Reyna's obvious hatred of both of them

noble zenith
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I honestly think it's going to be a nail in the coffin for Reyna if/when Brim and KAYO get closer, and/or if he decides to keep ties with K-SEC

cinder plover
noble zenith
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Both would be horrifying for her and her experiences

half sentinel
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add on the possibility that lucia dies

noble zenith
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KAYO is quite literally the epitome of everything she hates in life

half sentinel
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cuz viper can't save her

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it's like we throw all the angst on reyna

noble zenith
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i love Reyna so much she is my vessel for evil and sadness other than KAYO

half sentinel
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LOL

cinder plover
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or he could just punt reyna into space and say "gg ez no re"

noble zenith
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If he originally came to Earth to destroy more Radiants, I don't think that's his intention anymore. He clearly cares too much about friends like Phoenix to the point where he actively disobeys his programming

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He clearly cares more than he lets on.

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I think him being vulnerable is just strange and terrifying to someone who is so new to sentience and critical thinking.

cinder plover
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true, he's far beyond rote repetition, so it's honestly unsurprising to see that his programming can be more that just "Kill Radiants"

carmine epoch
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Tbh i’d not be supposed if KJ’s tinkering would cause him to revert to original programminf

noble zenith
buoyant island
noble zenith
buoyant island
noble zenith
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typical boomerbot supremacy in my humble opinion

cinder plover
noble zenith
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can't let Kingdom do shit, they'll definitely fuck it up. we see how they fucked up this perfectly good robot and gave him anxiety /j

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They gave him a lot more than anxiety nevermind

buoyant island
cinder plover
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to be honest, we know far too little bout Gekko's lil buddies to know why they are important enough to be mentioned in the same context as Landfall :skyeLeer

noble zenith
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Reyna is definitely up to something in particular

cinder plover
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but it'd be a fun thing if Rito doesn't give out like, 2.5 crumbs of lore every patch hollow

noble zenith
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2.5 is really pushin how much they give us

buoyant island
cinder plover
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they cooking, and we are allowed to maybe stay outside the kitchen for a sniff hollow

noble zenith
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they all exist! that's clearly all we need to know according to John riot /j

cinder plover
noble zenith
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THRASH GOTTEM!!!

uncut musk
half sentinel
cinder plover
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also, can we also acknowledge some ATLAS homie seeing a hole in B site and decided to put his entire forearm in it, just for that thing to get sliced off like damn pastrami? hollow

tropic sonnetBOT
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@cinder plover has leveled up! (13 ➜ 14)

cinder plover
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thanks Sabine

uncut musk
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they're cooking a half baked reveal that cuts off and then no explaination is given

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it's undercooked

buoyant island
noble zenith
cinder plover
buoyant island
uncut musk
noble zenith
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they are cooking with no gas πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯ no stove πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯ no fire πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯ no oven πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯

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they clearly don't own an air fryer

half sentinel
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at this point i'm more excited on the new agent than gekko

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πŸ’€

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gg go next moment

noble zenith
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honestly

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imagine dropping a character and then deciding that writing lore and publishing it is just too hard 😭

cinder plover
uncut musk
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just super disappointing

noble zenith
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one day riot will realize how much lore sells

half sentinel
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still thank whoever designed and made fade's lore to expose majority of protocol prayge

uncut musk
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so like .,/.>>>>?????

cinder plover
uncut musk
noble zenith
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they see it literally everywhere because one of the most popular games in the world mostly sells for it's lore around characters

cinder plover
cinder plover
buoyant island
noble zenith
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This is 100% an executive decision and not the writers fault

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I woulda spoiled the whole thing already πŸ’€

cinder plover
noble zenith
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I've consistently been snorting an insane amount of copium ever since I started liking KAYO an unreasonable amount

cinder plover
noble zenith
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I need him to be happy (IMPOSSIBLE)

half sentinel
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Kayo is def unique cuz it's the battle between like what you're programmed to do versus like do you have the free will to go against what you're programmed

noble zenith
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kayo is unique because that mf is gay πŸ˜­β€ΌοΈβ€ΌοΈ

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imagine being a genocide robot and then one day randomly waking up that shit must've been crazy

cinder plover
half sentinel
noble zenith
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I just want those two to be happy in particular and all of their friends. KJ is now his stepdaughter canonical

cinder plover
noble zenith
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LMFAO

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This made me snort thank you

half sentinel
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The thing with Kayo is like... he knows what happens in the future (at least for his timeline) and he travels to a diff one to try to prevent it. But the thing about like preventing futures is the thought of like... the more one tries to prevent it, they're just accelerating towards that very future they try to prevent

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so I def can't wait to see if Kayo can defy the future

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tho part of me want the civil war cuz chaos go brrr pandaburn

noble zenith
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I feel like KAYOs original intention was to kill every Reyna but when he got to Alpha earth he was like omg! my friends! and now has changed his mind even if he still absolutely despises Reyna

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I feel like it would hurt him to leave another Brimstone more than it would benefit him to kill every Reyna

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This mf is sooo gay what is wrong with him (I would willingly die for him)

half sentinel
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perhaps to keep brim alive he has to make sure reyna doesn't go bat shit crazy

cinder plover
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pure speculation tbh, but would be fun to see

noble zenith
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honestly I feel like there's a hidden factor about his mind at play right now. I don't think he'd be able to look Reyna in the eye without killing her

cinder plover
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if Rito actually releases lore for once

noble zenith
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Something tells me that Radianite is doing more than just letting him move

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But that's just a game theory skyeHehe

uncut musk
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does he even know why the conflict between humans and radiants happened

cinder plover
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oh god imagine if Game Theory channel got a hold of Val lore hollow

uncut musk
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i will dive off a bridge

cinder plover
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holup imma synchronize dive with u

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honestly thank fk they don't make vids about Val lore, i think they learned from Undertale that their speculative bullcrap is not gonna work with games that have actual lore astraLUL

cinder plover
noble zenith