"Death Trap" Card Discussion

[willow nebula]

Theorize, analyze, freak out; the stage is yours.

[silver salmon]

WEEWOO

[reef granite]

NICE

[slender glade]

https://tenor.com/view/hanzo-overwatch-hanzo-overwatch-overwatch-skins-overwatch-taunts-gif-22267111

[willow nebula]

LOL Chaos from moment 1

[limpid nebula]

Thank God now we can discuss the other cards in lore channel

[north briar]

LOOKS LUKE THEIR SOME SONE SORT OF RADIANITE MESH

[silver salmon]

@old echo none. Revelation cinematic shows the agent locker skipped the number 8.

[modern pewter]

I’m thinking this could be both a map and agent teaser

[silver salmon]

So no Agent 8 in Omega so far

[old echo]

Ohhh

Ty ty

[forest grotto]

MEI GO BRRR
Thank you for coming to my TED talk

[silver salmon]

Anyways

If it is indeed a cryostasis

Or somesort of pod, cell, holding chamber

[willow nebula]

a what now?

[silver salmon]

Why does Agent 8 need it?

[forest grotto]

If we really have agent 8 as next agent, imma go ballistic

[modern pewter]

They go eep

[slender glade]

wait if there’s no agent 8 in omega how are they gonna fit them into the game 😭

[old echo]

Maybe they got injured?

[slender glade]

maybe that’s why they haven’t added them yet

[cursive maple]

why would you think there is no agent 8 in omega?

[slender glade]

this is riot speculation not lore speculation lol

[slender glade]

I… Tmo just said it…?

[modern pewter]

There is probably an agent 8 in omega because the absence of the locker and th skipping over it means they chose to skip it

[slender glade]

ah ic

[modern pewter]

It was an intentional choice

[slender glade]

I didn’t backread far enough somehow

even tho I’ve been in the thread since the start

[cursive maple]

Oh, I see... I thought I had missed a point

[forest grotto]

So far we have not even a whiff of why agent 8 was not present, so I think there is no legs to give to any speculation

[fast orbit]

maybe......agent 8 switcheroo

[willow nebula]

I'm not buying it 😔

[forest grotto]

But i think this is the first we see anything resembling agent 8 lore outside of a scratched/removed locker

[modern pewter]

This has more substance than fade revenge arc sorry

It has the number eight written on it 😭

And it’s highlighted

[willow nebula]

FADE'S TWEET HAD A "REVENGE" IN THE CAPTION TOO

[fast orbit]

Ilum coping it's not agent 8

im flabberghasted

[fast orbit]

MAXBOT'S THE ONE GETTING REVENGE, NO?

AM I MISSING SOMETHING

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[willow nebula]

Anything with agent 8 is copium guys

[silver salmon]

More like "there's no evidence so far"

[slender glade]

gotcha gotcha

[forest grotto]

Thing is tho, does anyone know how agent numerical designation is written in Valorant? Like is it presented with 3 numbers (like 008), 2 numbers (like 08), or no filler 0's?

[modern pewter]

It would be as if they said fade when talking about revenge character

Like hello

[slender glade]

that was the one thing that made me a bit skeptical

it could very well just be… a coincidence

[modern pewter]

It could totally be the number 800 but the number highlighted being eight already makes me skeptical

[forest grotto]

Wait holup, which tweet is this? Did i miss sth very important?

[slender glade]

true

[somber remnant]

usually 06

[modern pewter]

No way bc they know how we feel about agent 8 djfjfi

[somber remnant]

no

[slender glade]

LOL I mean it’s possible it has a different meaning other than agent 8 is all

[willow nebula]

It was the one after revelation cinematic

[modern pewter]

Especially on an agent teaser card? Like the actual number eight? No way it’s not

[willow nebula]

The one on uni's pfp

[modern pewter]

If it isn’t I’d actually be really fuckin pissed off

[slender glade]

how do we know it’s an agent teaser card?

(genuinely asking)

[modern pewter]

Well visually it looks like one

[slender glade]

fair enuf

[silver salmon]

^

[modern pewter]

But that isn’t to say it can’t be a map teaser either

Or both..

[slender glade]

OOP

[willow nebula]

I swear we had a discussion about this

[slender glade]

agent 8 IS A MAP

BOOM

[willow nebula]

@reef granite

[slender glade]

I cracked it

[fast orbit]

nah map teasers show something environmental

[willow nebula]

do you remember it?

[reef granite]

Hello I was backreading

What happened

[fast orbit]

It's most likely an agent

[forest grotto]

So far agent/map teaser player cards usually do not fall into any motif like the rest in the BP

[slender glade]

https://tenor.com/view/dora-themap-imthe-gif-22214617

agent 8 leak

[willow nebula]

@reef granite I asked u question

[fast orbit]

Map was so annoying

[reef granite]

Iirc there isn't?

[modern pewter]

We find 8 in a cryo pod on the next map confirmed

[reef granite]

Like, there's no 'official' designation for 3, 2, or 1 digit

[slender glade]

ok but to be fair that would be a fucking SICK way to introduce agent 8

[reef granite]

Although we usually have the ID numbers written in two digits for the Protocol ID Cards and on the lockers

[fast orbit]

Agent 8's a special one

[forest grotto]

Thing is, i think the next new content would be a map, no? In line with Valorant general release schedule so far? Was there any instances of multiple agents released before a new map comes out?

[slender glade]

possibly… I think it depends on how much they want another sentinel

and I know they’re quite focused on revamping the old maps rn

so there’s a possibility they don’t want to add a new one right away

[fast orbit]

next agent is a sentinel confirmed

[reef granite]

Yoru and Astra before Breeze, iirc

[slender glade]

I mean they are

lol

[fast orbit]

oui

[slender glade]

given how riot seems to be focused on fixing up old maps I wouldn’t be surprised if it was another agent before map rn

[fast orbit]

plus we got Lotus. and Bind's returning

[reef granite]

Then also Chamber and Neon and Fade before Pearl

[forest grotto]

Hmmm looking at the card style tho, it really looks like an agent teaser

[slender glade]

that’s what we’re saying

haha

[forest grotto]

Ok so not a singular incident, there is hopium yet

[silver salmon]

Wait

[slender glade]

but yeah I’m hoping that the 008 isn’t just coincidental

[forest grotto]

Watch Rito whammy us with both a map and an agent tho

[silver salmon]

Technically this would be the fourth agent right

[slender glade]

on another note, this looks hella test-subject-y

[silver salmon]

Since Gekko is number 3?

[forest grotto]

Yeah i feel like it can be a red herring too

[silver salmon]

That's what I've been saying

It felt... clean

[slender glade]

yeah

[silver salmon]

The card feels clean

Like it's not supposed to be taken out or something

Like it meant to be indoors

[slender glade]

it’s solider overwatch confirmed?

[forest grotto]

Confirmed, agent 8 is a god damn HVAC unit ☠️☠️

[slender glade]

that’s a joke but maybe a similar situation

[slender glade]

💀💀💀

[willow nebula]

Yeah, Neon and Fade were both before Pearl

[slender glade]

agent 8 is a vacuum

[fast orbit]

Hoover

[slender glade]

maybe it’s another robot too

but I kinda doubt it

[forest grotto]

Watch it just be prototype number 8 of sth else and not actually agent 8

[fast orbit]

Nah not a robot

[slender glade]

lol that’s what I was worried abt

[willow nebula]

Yeah like the random numbers on agents

[forest grotto]

If their real name is Herbert, i'm out ☠️

[willow nebula]

5 on phoenix's shoe

[slender glade]

I utterly hate that they did that

[fast orbit]

LOL

[slender glade]

random shit on designs just to make it look cool 😭

makes me cry

give me LORE

[willow nebula]

No way they introduce agent 8 this early

Seriously

[slender glade]

I mean is it early??

[willow nebula]

It's such a big mystery to unveil

[forest grotto]

I agree, i think it's more likely that Riot would leave agent 8 as a running gag for lore incompletion

[modern pewter]

that would be the worst mistake they've ever made especially on an agent teaser card when they KNOW. that we freak out over any mention of number eight

[fast orbit]

"early"

it's been 3 years since the game's release

[slender glade]

yeah that’s what I’m saying

[modern pewter]

oh if that was real i would drive all the way over to riot hq and egg everyone there

[slender glade]

also I think most ppl outside of the lore sphere don’t actually know about agent 8

[modern pewter]

well

[fast orbit]

Ilum out here hoping to get agent 8 by june 2086

[willow nebula]

It's what we keep saying for agent backstories too. If we know about an agent's past fully, the curiosity over their lore is kinda over

[forest grotto]

I mean Riot's other project is League, comparing to that, our lore is in its infancy at best ☠️☠️

[modern pewter]

i mean people pointed out the number 8 and agent 8 already on twitter

[slender glade]

I’ve seen artists just list valorant agents as numbers and not skip 8 a bunch of times

[slender glade]

yeah but newer fans and people who don’t know anything about the lore seem oblivious to it

[willow nebula]

I'm not hoping anything

[fast orbit]

well yeah ik the lore is not really that steady, and certain things get retconned

[willow nebula]

That's what I'm saying

[fast orbit]

buutttt it's not weird to get agent 8 now

[modern pewter]

yeah but WE do that too like when someone says astra is the 16th agent to be added to the game.

[forest grotto]

Common misconception i guess, if the missing number was 1, it would be a vastly different case

[willow nebula]

You best bet we won't get the real agent 8 until agent 30 or something

[fast orbit]

very wrong she was the 15th

[modern pewter]

thanks for proving my point chill

[fast orbit]

yw

[slender glade]

I suppose but that’s just grammatically correct - they’re not listening agents in the the order they were ADDED, they’re listing agents with their respective numbers

[fast orbit]

:>

[modern pewter]

or when someone says that the game has 22 agents

[slender glade]

again that is just correct

because the GAME itself has 22 agents

[cursive maple]

yeah that causes Chamber to be listed as no.17 instead of 18 and makes me go D:<

[modern pewter]

i mean playable oh my god

[slender glade]

yeah it happens a lot, that’s why I’m saying the average player is unaware of the existence of agent 8

[modern pewter]

jfc

[forest grotto]

Shame, he woulda gotten that prime number buff

[slender glade]

yes?? what… I’m agree with you

[cursive maple]

I am taking ANY buff to him at this point I am desperate

[slender glade]

I’m pointing out the differences between listening playable characters and acknowledging agent 8 as a thing

[willow nebula]

Death trap huh...

[slender glade]

the name is interesting I think we should speculate more with it in mind

[modern pewter]

i mean the average player is unaware about anything lets be real here

[slender glade]

none of the theories have been morbid enough let’s get SPOOKY lore friends

[forest grotto]

Honestly it would be a real d*ck move of us to keep editing agent 8 code name from time to time ☠️☠️ like they can be Unknown one day, John Cena the next, and Soldier 78 on like holidays ☠️☠️☠️☠️

But it'd be fun ☠️☠️

[modern pewter]

but like they know that people know about agent 8 which is why they went out of their way to say "revenge character is not agent 8" because people immediately jump to agent 8

[willow nebula]

I bet Death Trap is an ability name

[slender glade]

isn’t it soldier 76

[willow nebula]

Mark my words

[slender glade]

OOOOO

that would be spooky

but I think a little too obvious

that’d be a sick name for a sentinel ability though

[modern pewter]

an ability name this early khfjsf

[forest grotto]

I mean it tracks as far as sentinel ability names go

[slender glade]

they’ve never done it before which is why I’m skeptical but if so it would be crazy

[cursive maple]

Thinking on Agent teasers, Skye was her bird, Yoru was the sign on his jacket which is also how he's painted his mask, Astra was a view of the lake her gauntlet was found from, KayO was his ruined world behind a teleporter, Chamber was his watch, Neon was her limiter, Fade was the nightmare's trails, Harbor was the orb in his bracelet and Gekko was his bubble the blorbos live in...

[willow nebula]

Harbor's teaser card name was "rising tide", I just checked

[slender glade]

WAIT WAS IT

agent 8 is just the agent of death

[willow nebula]

Yes

[slender glade]

[forest grotto]

AYO

[willow nebula]

No

[slender glade]

no like theme wise

[willow nebula]

Wait

Hm

[modern pewter]

well rising tide isn't one of harbor's abilities

[slender glade]

that would make sense as to why it needs to be locked away though

[modern pewter]

but high tide is

[slender glade]

and it would also explain the taboo feeling

[forest grotto]

Watch their ultimate voiceline be "You shall not pass!"

[slender glade]

not sure why I just assigned it pronouns to agent 8

canon

!!!

[forest grotto]

The problem with all of this is, so far we have very little (if any) hint of a new agent. The only pertinent person(s) that comes to mind is either Lt. Delacroix, or someone vital in Project Landfall

[long oracle]

@forest grotto has leveled up! (12 ➜ 13)

[forest grotto]

(Obligatory Sabine jumpscare btw)

[slender glade]

lmaoo

actually very fitting

[modern pewter]

they could drop the card but like add more

tease more

[slender glade]

correct me if I’m wrong but none of these background characters have really ended up as agents no?

[modern pewter]

yeah

[slender glade]

I don’t think it’s really something to consider

most of our agents have been somewhat out of the blue

up until like a month or so before their release we don’t tend to get anything

[forest grotto]

Yeah :/ even during Fade and Neon's potential appearance was hinted at through multiple acts tho, so I'm ... kinda concerned. ( I could be wrong on this, it could just be multiple updates, so pls correct me if that was the case)

[modern pewter]

i mentioned in theory chat that e-18-12e

i looked that up

and google thought it was an equation

and

[slender glade]

lmaooo

[modern pewter]

i was being silly

[fast orbit]

but it's actually the color orange

[modern pewter]

and i was like what if it was coordinates

[forest grotto]

Lmao that's just bad math

[willow nebula]

I'M TELLING YOU, The fights the agents are having must be related to this!!!

Why do you think we have a patch full of ppl complaining about each other

[modern pewter]

they probably just put random numbers there ksdjflkds

[willow nebula]

/hj btw

[modern pewter]

we'll see

[slender glade]

I really like the idea that agent 8 has a very dark theme

[willow nebula]

I really believe the little fights could be related to an external source subconsciously causing unease

[slender glade]

my worry is it’s a tad too similar to fade

but yaknow

[slender glade]

that’s exactly what I’m thinking of

[willow nebula]

The card looks like it has a soul captured in it too. Not to mention the name of the card? Spooky. I wouldn't be surprised.

[slender glade]

agent of darkness or death

[modern pewter]

i think the unease is literally just maxbot reviving and spying on omen

[slender glade]

how do you spy on a ghost

[modern pewter]

i dont know

[willow nebula]

They don't scream darkness to me tbh, they have a very light theme

[slender glade]

😭

[modern pewter]

ask omen because he thinks maxbot was staring at him

[slender glade]

is that the theme or is that just how they’re contained?

[forest grotto]

With difficulty and dedication

[willow nebula]

Doesn't account for Gekko

Also

Wait let me put it this way

[slender glade]

for the super light theme of the card, it has a very dark name

[modern pewter]

wait gekko?

??????"?

gekko's voicemail is literally his buddies are eating away at the RADIANITE FUEL RESERVES

[forest grotto]

I think Gekko is more tied to the Landfall arc, that would only leave ATLAS

[modern pewter]

and also they are from kingdom and we don't know what tey are

[slender glade]

lmfaoo

I love them

they’re just little troublemakers

[modern pewter]

so yes gekko's source of unease is probably just worry about his creatures in my opinion

and the radianite reserves

[slender glade]

that seems to be gekko’s only source of unease ngl

lmao

[willow nebula]

There are two things I'm referring to.

1. Raze complaining about Omen complaining about Maxbot.
2. Gekko complaining about people complaining about his critters.

What do these two things have in common?

1. It's based on conflict
2. It's based on anxiety over the diminishing resources of VP

So I'm thinking that either conclusion could be related to the next agent. Make of thag what you will

[slender glade]

he’s very positive

[forest grotto]

Those mfers are out here eating the Valorant equivalent of Uranium like it's fucken pop rocks, i think there are adequate causes for concern

[willow nebula]

Dammit a perfectly typed thread with a spelling error at the very end

[slender glade]

as they should!!!

agent 8 is just mental illness personified

💀

[forest grotto]

This sounds about right tho

[forest grotto]

Next agent, Omen and Fade: The holy trinity of ✨️mental instability✨️

[slender glade]

so true

[willow nebula]

thank you

[slender glade]

but yeah I like the idea of a darkness theme but since we already have fade I’m skeptical

makes me all the more curious about what the card name actually means

it could very well also just be completely unrelated to the agent’s theme and more about a certain event

[willow nebula]

I think the "industrial" look of the battlepass is just a piece of equipment, like Brim's controller, that the new agent has equipped, and that they'll be human

[willow nebula]

Death doesn't have to be dark

We have goofy agents that kill too

[slender glade]

yeah but “death trap” has a pretty negative feel to it, no?

[willow nebula]

OH MY GOD

[forest grotto]

I'm more inclined to think that this is more ... chaos than death

[slender glade]

oop

[willow nebula]

WHAT IF THE AGENT GOT CAUGHT IN A DEATH TRAP

[slender glade]

did I just tickle ilum’s lore brain

[willow nebula]

YES U DID

[slender glade]

LOL

[slender glade]

what sort of “death trap”?

[willow nebula]

I have no idea, but it could be something that binds the agent to that artifact maybe?

[slender glade]

hmmmm

[willow nebula]

So they can't take the artifact off or else they're dead, or something

[modern pewter]

valor art online

[willow nebula]

You tickled my brain with the "about a certain event" part

[willow nebula]

Oh please no

[slender glade]

I don’t think agent 8 can be undead/dead right? Because wasn’t that answered on the Reddit thread

[forest grotto]

If this is just brim's wristpad getting an upgrade, i am going to Riot HQ with a sock filled with pennies and ill intentions

[slender glade]

so that does check out

[modern pewter]

yeah

[modern pewter]

im just bringing a brick

https://tenor.com/view/brick-throwing-throwing-brick-loonawra-gif-20021635

[slender glade]

if this isn’t about agent 8 I am genuinely going to riot hq and throwing eggs at them

[modern pewter]

no seriously

like that would be

such a shit move

[forest grotto]

They give us like
2.5 crumbs of lore per year
If they do all that imma just go

[slender glade]

there’s also a chance that this is just a new agent who is a test subject #8 and not actually agent 8 but that theory doesn’t exactly match the name of the card

it’s driving me insane 😭

[forest grotto]

See this is why i compare Val lore to an abusive relationship

[slender glade]

IT IS

[willow nebula]

From the wiki:
"The basis of these two statements is from a comment made by Joe Killeen (aka Riot ParmCheesy), VALORANT's Narrative Lead, in an AMA session on the r/VALORANT subreddit on 3rd June, 2021. When asked when Agent 8 would be added to the game, Joe replied that it would be "as soon as they 'get back' ", not specifying what they would be returning from."

[forest grotto]

Like we get but a whiff of the good shit, but they ain't letting us in the kitchen

[willow nebula]

Ah wait this is a wrong quotation

There was another one

[slender glade]

I’m pretty sure I saw a comment about them being alive

yeah

[willow nebula]

Saying that agent 8 wasn't dead

[slender glade]

gejjddnkfnfkf

[willow nebula]

Hold on

https://valorant-lore.fandom.com/wiki/Agent_08

[slender glade]

so whatever the “death trap” is, agent 8 cannot be dead themselves

I don’t actually know if that confirms that they couldn’t have been brought back to life though

or undead

I think the only thing it confirms is that they can’t be dead currently

[willow nebula]

I think it's either an ability or something that happened to them in the past that made them who they are

[slender glade]

hmmm

[modern pewter]

ability could be interesting but ability reveal this early?

[slender glade]

but wouldn’t it make more sense for the card name to be directly related to what the card shows?

I’m not sure

maybe not “make more sense” but that’s another theory

[willow nebula]

You'll laugh at me but I'd much rather get Agent 8 reveal some 6 years later in a series rather than now in an ordinary way

[modern pewter]

... eh

[slender glade]

6 years is a bit much 😭 but I wouldn’t mind waiting either

[willow nebula]

I'm used to waiting

[slender glade]

that doesn’t mean it’s good

😭

[modern pewter]

yeah 6 years is way to long imo

[willow nebula]

That's what being a narrative game fan does to you

[modern pewter]

i mean it's been 3 years already

[willow nebula]

I'm crying silent tears :D

Time does fly by guys no worries

[slender glade]

I think the reason that I dislike that is because other than agent 8 there isn’t one “big mystery” that riot keeps teasing us at, it’s just tiny tiny lore crumbs of a complicated story

if riot gave us more I probably wouldn’t mind

[modern pewter]

that's just you being used to getting nothing kdjfskdjf

[slender glade]

but I’m just itching for another MAJOR lore reveal

like cinematics are

not necessarily a cinematic itself

[willow nebula]

Nah if I know for a fact that I'll get something good after waiting xx years, I'll wait

[slender glade]

I wish val lore was like overwatch lore with multiple forms of media to go through

I mean they get comics, cinematics, short stories, etc

as well as in game interactions and clues ofc

it feels like we just have cinematic and in game crumbs

[modern pewter]

we'll get those eventually.. i hope

[forest grotto]

Honestly it would make a pretty fun narrative arc if agent 8 was deep undercover in opposite earth as someone high up in Kingdom

[willow nebula]

We're much more focused on environmental storytelling

[slender glade]

maybe :/

[slender glade]

yeah and I’m saying I dislike that

[willow nebula]

And I don't think the medium will change anytime soon

[modern pewter]

i mean they literally have comic book covers dlkshfjdsfj

[slender glade]

personally as someone who cannot keep up with it all the time

[modern pewter]

feels like a cruel joke

[slender glade]

yeahhh

[modern pewter]

wait six years

[willow nebula]

Thurston Wolfé

[modern pewter]

by the time 6 years rolls past nobody will care anymore shdfkjhsd

unless they have other stuff in that time period but

god too long

[slender glade]

that’s the worry for me

riot is not doing a good job at making people invested in valorant lore in my opinion

cinematics are too far apart for people to be truly invested - and I’m not saying they should make more cinematics, but that’s kinda my whole point with the “major lore drop” thing

they’ve got to make people more invested otherwise when they actually drop shit like agent 8, people will be way less hyped/interested than they could have been

we’re only invested because we’re ✨mentally ill ✨but the average player doesn’t really care or even know about this stuff

bit of a rant lolz sorry

[willow nebula]

Your worries are valid, no worries

[slender glade]

that wording is really funny

LOL

[willow nebula]

Oh

[slender glade]

HAHHA

[willow nebula]

Yeah I just realized 😂

We had a thread about this but I can't find it

Maybe you can add your thoughts there

Yeah this one https://discord.com/channels/698265763491872768/1010914396911980587

[slender glade]

ah I see

I don’t want to revive an old thread cuz that’s spooky but I definitely have some thoughts when it comes to that because I feel like I’m at the awkward point between lore fanatic and someone who isn’t able to keep up with the lore lol

and “go read the wiki” isn’t as good of a solve as some people say because the wiki really does not tell you everything (and couldn’t)

[cursive maple]

I am leaning towards them being human for now as well

[old echo]

Also dont forget that smokedancer is one of the codenames

And tbh that art fits

[onyx cape]

tbh I feel like this is a really bad take, think of arcane playing league I never gave a shit about jinx until we got her story in arcane, and now I adore her character and have been trying to learn to main her

[onyx cape]

maybe we’ll get a slow burn of buildup, maybe this deathtrap is the holding chamber of agent 8 and we’ll get to see it on a future map and he’ll break out like the mask being stolen on ice box so like new map ep 7 and agent 8 act 2

[onyx cape]

me too!!

[onyx cape]

ON GOD

[willow nebula]

But League has 10 years of backstory, plus lots and LOTS of characters to tell stories about

[gloomy belfry]

most sensible theory IMO

they added spiderman to valo 💀

[modern pewter]

the spider stuff is cool

inb4 agent 8 is spider man

[fast orbit]

Omg spooderman

[reef granite]

Alpha and Omega are part of the Spiderverse 💀

[forest grotto]

spider web looks very plausible tbh

[cursive maple]

a Spider ult... would that... be similar to a KJ ult? that is also a death trap when you think about it

it is a Cypher and KJ mix?

[reef granite]

I'm still hanging on to my theory that it's an ice Agent

[forest grotto]

i think spider is looking more and more likely tho, but ice would be a cool idea.

if this is an AoE slow, then a combo with Harbor will be deadly, as though it becomes
a death trap

[fast orbit]

Agent 8 my beloved

[blissful zealot]

I think KingKut once said that quite a few devs at Riot don't even know about Agent 08, but of course that could be different now

It was in Cyn's interview with him iirc

[blissful zealot]

The Memento Mori stuff still doesn't have any direct links

[blissful zealot]

THIS^^^^^

I would prefer to have more serious lore drops be in the current form and then have the slice of life kind of stuff that people really want in comic book or short story form

sorry for replying to you 3 times Laike I was just catching up on backreading and you made some good points

[sick talon]

I mean considering how they handle League's lore I'm hoping this is something we'll get in the future

[slender glade]

oh jeez that would be kinda crazy

i mean i guess not everyone is directly related to lore stuffs but

[slender glade]

lol no worries i dont mind it at all also thank ya :D im glad you agree!

[fast orbit]

Imagine designing an agent not knowing it's Agent 8

[scenic bone]

Ok this might be super far-fetched but I'm wondering if the "Best Served Cold" card is also related to "Death Trap" and the reappearance of Agent 8. With the webs being present in both cards it makes me wonder if the situation that Omen talked about, with Maxbot observing the Agents, might be Agent 8 checking up on the protocol. If it was just the card alone I'd probably write it off as just a reference to the old cinematic but since they recorded a whole voicemail as well I feel like it might be a part of something bigger.

[modern pewter]

i think maxbot in that card is just showing him being stuffed in one place and forgotten with cobwebs

maxbot might have to do with vp 8 in the future though

that'd be cool

[scenic bone]

yeah it's definitely a loose connection

[long oracle]

@scenic bone has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

[scenic bone]

i'm just too hyped for agent 8 ;-;

[modern pewter]

i wouldn't be too excited tbh

could be bait unfortunately

hopefully

it isn't

[scenic bone]

i'm like torn cause on the one hand i wanna know like why they've been gone so long and what happened but on the other like it feels like kinda early for a reveal

[modern pewter]

since you think it's too early when do you think they should reveal them?

[scenic bone]

mm like it's more just that i want a huge build up to it lmaoo

[modern pewter]

oh 100%

[scenic bone]

like there's been some hints so far

[modern pewter]

i dont think this will be the last build up for vp8

i think they'll do more

[scenic bone]

yeah true i guess they still have like 2 months to release more lol

i want more easter eggs like the lockers

maybe some like vague emails or something

[modern pewter]

the emails are already vague enough tbh

dont need even more vague emails

[scenic bone]

lmaoo fair enough, some of the kingdom ones r super confusing

[modern pewter]

but for vague hints

i think vague hints through maps could be cool

[scenic bone]

yeah i love going into customs to explore them so would be nice to have some new things to discover

what kinda of map hints do you think would be cool?

[modern pewter]

well think fracture

specifically the chamber teasers*

Astra teasers

Fade and her dossiers

[scenic bone]

yeah i really enjoyed the dossiers but i think it'd be cool if they like added more physical hints too

[modern pewter]

wdym?

[scenic bone]

like actual item type things

tech that got left behind

maybe a hideout or something if that fits

[modern pewter]

oh i see

i guess chamber teasers count

there was a sniper rifle case that was left on fracture

supposed to be chamber's if im correct

[scenic bone]

yeah that kind of stuff!

[modern pewter]

yeah i really enjoy environmental storytelling also

[deft sluice]

foreshadowing val in 2030 to have 100 agents maybe??

also i heard a new map will be dropped in between the three agents dropped this year?

[long tapir]

Maybe

[twilit hornet]

Guys this is agent 8 is that device

I think something when more wrong than omen and they became a whirlwind in a box

The next agent gonna be a walking freezer that can shoot out whirlwinds

[noble sundial]

Ngl it looks like a cocoon

This is probably just them teasingus with agent 8 like with the lockeew