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merry wolf Jul 12, 2024, 9:37 PM

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Im not sure if this is the right chat to ask in but i hope it is!

orchid ferry Jul 12, 2024, 9:49 PM

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Right now the industry is going through a pivot point, and for entry level it’s better to be able to do both, I only know a small amount of people able to go into UX specific and it’s UX research not UX design, right now a lot of the UX design role is expected to do both

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UI, depending on the future of AI, might not be a big needs for just doing UI only

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To be more competitive in the market and continue to grow, it’s better to do both in the beginning and depending on your career you can go into a specialty

merry wolf Jul 12, 2024, 9:50 PM

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can you give me an example of a specialty?

tired bough Jul 12, 2024, 9:51 PM

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UI is more about the visual elements on the screen so lots of color theory, visual weighting and styling.

UX is more about figuring out how things are work together in a flow and can include things like information architecture and usability testing.

orchid ferry Jul 12, 2024, 9:52 PM

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merry wolf can you give me an example of a specialty?

Specialty is what you are talking about, targeting UX or UI only, and typically it’s UX researcher for UX specific

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UX design is different then UX research

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For role specific terms

tired bough Jul 12, 2024, 9:52 PM

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Also a lot of the time when I did UI the feature was already set. They just wanted it to look good. When I started doing ux sometimes we would just get a goal and framing out a solution was a bigger part of it. That's why UX generally pays more.

orchid ferry Jul 12, 2024, 9:53 PM

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The only one that’s been growing for demand that’s a little more focus on UI would be design system, but managing a design system is not only UI

tired bough Jul 12, 2024, 9:54 PM

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Yep agreed

orchid ferry Jul 12, 2024, 9:54 PM

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There are testing and collaborating with developers, so lots of skill set that’s more then just UI

merry wolf Jul 12, 2024, 10:09 PM

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So would it be best if i specialize in UI if I enjoy doing like graphic design things?

scarlet adder Jul 12, 2024, 10:23 PM

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I candidly don’t think juniors will find much success if they don’t possess the ability to critically through problems while also have good visual design skills

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The dichotomy between the two is severely outdated

orchid ferry Jul 12, 2024, 10:28 PM

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Yea I think you completely missed what I was saying, for job security sake I don’t advice you to pick UX or UI, there’s a high chance there won’t be UI only role in the future

merry wolf Jul 12, 2024, 11:38 PM

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Oh sorry. Okay i see, so better learn both sides?

tired bough Jul 13, 2024, 1:09 AM

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You can explore UI sure it's just important to also think about which problems this is solving and for who and also think about how you might prove that it's effective or not

scarlet adder Jul 13, 2024, 1:30 AM

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merry wolf Oh sorry. Okay i see, so better learn both sides?

They’re more or less the same thing when it really boils down to it

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Almost all instances where visual design directly influences the overall user experience

merry wolf Jul 13, 2024, 3:23 AM

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hmm okay thank you! i have a degree in business admin but im sure it doesn’t really mean much but where do you recommend starting? like books or courses online i could take?

scarlet adder Jul 13, 2024, 4:04 AM

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I think if you’re just starting out, you need to get into the actual groove of just making stuff without the immediate contingency of getting a job

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Creatives that tend to find fulfilment and eventual success on their careers all start from a sense of internal motivation and enjoyment in just making things.

Things like, sketching, tinkering around with photoshop, photo manipulation, etc. Which stems into learning about historical art and design precedents which overtime helps you build good taste.

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Your first 6 months if you’re fully starting from no design background - you should feel like you have no idea what you’re done and that is 100% fine. This isn’t an industry you can really rush into because it takes a long long long time to develop taste

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FWIW, when I was pivoting, I just spent the majority of my time during the pandemic just having fun and making things. Pick out a problem you feel like you could solve with a very simple feature and take a stab at trying to solve that problem. You do that enough times and you start picking up on things like what the best user flow for completing a task is, what the right component to use in different cases are, and so much more. If you’re confused about something there are unlimited resources on the internet to find answers. Granted it was a very unstructured way of learning but it felt familiar to me because I came from a design background. If you’re someone who might learn more effectively with more structure, I’d definitely recommend looking into an introductory course. Google’s UX design course is often where I point people to when they have no design background. It is a very very very introductory course so I wouldn’t treat it like the golden ticket into finding a job, but it’s great for just dipping your toes into generally what you can expect.

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This is a job where doing stuff > reading stuff. Make things and learn to enjoy doing that

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