FFS stop putting solo vs premades!!!!

[fossil ingot]

it's fine to allow solos with groups, but there should be an option to play with just other solos, one of the best things about dark and darker is that it has a solo queue mode so you can fight other solos, at the very least they should remove the timer for raider mode i feel till a solo queue mode is added

[tribal silo]

What is a premade in this context?

[dull swan]

I agree. We need 2 modes. 1 vs 2/3 and 1 vs all types. just like in the hunt showdown ..
I can kill duos and trios but if there are 2-3 teams .. it become much harder .. but still I think we don't need JUST SOLO, solo vs 2/3 teams would be nice

[fossil ingot]

pre made groups

[fossil ingot]

i dont see an issue with having a just solos mode, dark and darker has it and that game is doing great, so why not this game?

also we do have a solo only mode right now, just sucks cause of the cooldown and it is very limited in other ways

[tribal silo]

So just regular teams?

[fossil ingot]

yes, the whole suggestion is basically wishing there was a solo queue

[tribal silo]

Which brings us back to the playerbase not being able to sustain 2 separate queues.

[fossil ingot]

try it

we have a raider mode which is a second queue, just needs to remove the cooldown for it, player base got down to 300 for months before i dont see why we couldn't try to see how it'd go

[latent smelt]

dark and darker is one of the worst games ever made and dying faster than this game dude

[fossil ingot]

if a solo queue mode could help retain say afew hundred solo players, then it'd be worth it and could help increase the playerbase

[latent smelt]

i just owned a 3 man who were cheating, and spawn camping with a thompson and a grenade but the 3rd dude killed me...

solo vs premades especially when they are cheating is so dumb ><

no solo SHOULD NEVER EVER vs premade... it doesnt matter if you can beat them or not... its an unfair advantage that shouldnt exist... PERIOD!

[tribal silo]

Dude, the players on the asian servers can't find rounds under 10 min matchmaking and even overall the average playercount is just 555 players. It just isn't sustainable to have a full normal solo queue at the time.

[fossil ingot]

a solo queue wouldn't make a diff with the asian servers if they're that dead and you know it, and im saying a solo mode could help retain people after a patch and get that average up

they need to do more to retain players, a solo queue would keep me still playing now but without it im already done with this patch and that sucks, i want to play more but game lacks too much right now to get my friends to play it and im tired of playing against groups, raider mode is fun but way too many restrictions for it

[latent smelt]

wrong... because the major reason people stop playing is coz of cheaters not being dealt with

[latent smelt]

again bro we are wasting our breath trying to make these people understand... they will never learn ><

[fossil ingot]

only thing that could help asian servers would let those people play matches say after a min or two regardless if others are playing, basically making their game pve but better to have it be pve than literally unplayable

[latent smelt]

hey like i said it doesnt bother me i outplay duos+ all the time... enjoy your dying and soon to be completely dead game 🙂

[tribal silo]

Nope. Cheaters pop up within the first 2 werks after an update and most of them get banned within those 2 weeks too and cheaters overall never been that much of a problem for the game.

[latent smelt]

ye clearly thats why the cycle died out and it was a 10000000x better than marauders will ever be....

[tribal silo]

They are already trying to get that https://discord.com/channels/695304399303606395/1188899405105987734

[tribal silo]

The Cycle died cause of many reasons with cheaters just being a smaller one.

[latent smelt]

wrong

[fossil ingot]

i know, and i think that is needed, and just prior point was a solo queue wouldn't affect them if their servers are that dead

[latent smelt]

it was the main reason cycle died

[tribal silo]

But it would cut the rest of the servers in half.

[fossil ingot]

or, could help keep hundreds of players after a patch drop for way longer, and im sure plenty of solo's will stay with reg mode if this discord is any indication

[tribal silo]

Go watch all the video essays about how the Cycle died and none of them will tell ya that cheaters were the singular nor main reason for its end.

[fossil ingot]

im going to always ask for a solo queue to be added and argue that it could and would help retain solo players better, you can't convince me otherwise, especially when im not playing it right now due in big part of not having a solo queue mode

[tribal silo]

Then let's agree to disagree 🤝

[fossil ingot]

fair enough

[latent smelt]

no unlike u im informed ty

[tribal silo]

Source?

[latent smelt]

as i said your wasting your breath he wont learn 😛

[latent smelt]

its called reading and speaking to the gms and such... buddy keep using what others tell you as your source instead of using your brain to discover things yourself... one of the most complaints in cycle was the cheaters and the compo system which didnt work properly....

that and the terrible choices the gms were making sealed that games fate

[fossil ingot]

the most important thing for getting a solo queue added one day is to show that there is demand for it, arguing for or against wont help much at the end of the day, and being rude doesn't help any argument ever either

[latent smelt]

trust me from what ive seen from the devs... this game will die completely before that happens... there are still bugs in this game from day one that should of been hotfixed...

[tribal silo]

Well look who just came around to tell me that cheaters weren't the only reason for the Cycle's end.

[latent smelt]

dont take my word for it i dont care... your the fool that is clueless :S

[fossil ingot]

i dont see the game dying anytime soon at all really, just also dont see it being the game i fully want for a long time

[latent smelt]

.....

oceanic is almost dead.... and the player count is still low.... trust me the game wont last long

[fossil ingot]

overall the stuff they add in and work on is great, just needs more modes and more qol added, and yeah bug fixes too

[tribal silo]

And cheaters aren't a problem.

[latent smelt]

great? they added a guild most guilds have 1 -2 players in them and from the last 40 people ive killed none of them had a guild token

[fossil ingot]

yeah at least on the servers where you can get matches fast, cheaters are a non issue

[tribal silo]

How many run ins with cheaters did you have since the update?

[latent smelt]

ive ran into a couple

just 3 games ago i ran into a trio spawn camping and cheating

[tribal silo]

I had 2.

[fossil ingot]

0, at least if there were it wasn't obvious

[latent smelt]

they wrnt even good cheaters i owned 2 of them LOL

[fossil ingot]

obvious cheaters are rare, had one or two sketchy moments sure but think those were just hitreg issues

[tribal silo]

At what kind of cheats did they have? God mode, wall hack or aim bot?

[latent smelt]

knowing which gate to spawn camp in a deserted server is cheats.... do you understand the odds of a) picking the right area to enter then b) running to the right gate as a player comes in and camp the gate even before the main gate opens for noise????

the odds of that isnt high dude and i know odds better than anyone im a pro poker player

[pure falcon]

if the game were a lot more populated then I could see different grouping modes working but it's not enough currently

[latent smelt]

solos would 100% work now

[tribal silo]

That sounds just like normal airlock camping to be honest.

[latent smelt]

.....

normal airlock camping??? buddy you are so clueless

[tribal silo]

You just make sure to get to the POI first and then run to the closest airlock and camp there. That's not much cheating.

[latent smelt]

again do you understand the odds of picking the right airlock?

i dont think you understand probability there

let me guess you just pick an air lock right? and camp.... ROFL wasting time hoping someone comes to the airlock you camp... this kid facepalm

what a great way to play a LOOT shooter lol

sit and dont progress in the hopes you get the only other player in the server to go into the gate your camping

you must be 100% trolling there is no way you actually believe the garbage that comes out your mouth

[tribal silo]

POIs got 5-6 airlocks with 10 crews in a raid with 2-3 POI on the whole map and a bit of looking around before flying into the POI you got probably about a 33% chance to camp an airlock where someone will come into the POI.

[latent smelt]

most of the gate campers ive seen are in astroid mine... BIG difference there buddy

[tribal silo]

I'm not saying it's good player behavior. It definitely isn't but it ain't cheating.

[latent smelt]

thats a much bigger map....

and again you are clueless blocking you coz talking to you is like talking to a brick wall

please get a clue before posting on a subject you clearly know 0 about

[tribal silo]

Asteroid Mine is one of the smaller maps.

[latent smelt]

so much fun... killing and outplaying 2 people and then the teamer who sprays and prays with an SVT kills you... as i said solo vs premades is so stupid LOL

[tribal silo]

Gotta throw the clueless right back here cause I watched your youtube videos and when I go by that you got no idea what actual airlock camping is, you're calling players cheaters and spawn campers without any reason.

[latent smelt]

again 3.+ kdr in marauders, top 0.3% of every stat in valorant, Rank 1 Junkrat player in overwatch... buddy you are like 6 kinds of dumb

please go back to school and learn some basic maths... aka probability you are in for a rude awakening

[tribal silo]

Your stats and achievements in other games mean nothing here and don't change the fact that running into other players near your airlock isn't cheating or camping of any kind. And behave like a grown man and cut out the shit talking.

[inland trout]

no you are bad at this game

[inland trout]

who asks? this is Marauders not Valorant or Overwatch?

you die and you call everyone CHEATER! HE IS CHEATER!

how old are you? 13?
cringe guy

[visual root]

There is merit to this Idea its just super hard to do the right way. "The player base cant handle multiple queues" Right but arguably the player base loses tons more solos/duos daily because there are 4 man premades wiping every lobby sometimes multiple large teams doing the same thing its hard to stay motivated when that's youre only option. Then you have the issue of if you open a solo queue then the regulars one will probably turn into a deathmatch between premades each lobby and fundamentally change the dynamic of the game. I agree that some kind of solo queue would be great because im mostly solo myself just would want to see it done in a way that doesnt harm the game in other ways.

[fossil ingot]

as we already have a solo mode with raider mode, i think they should just remove the cool down timer for it and see how does it actually affect stuff

if it causes issues they could always roll it back or tweak as needed

i don't see the current plan of "do nothing and bleed out potentially most solo players" as a good one

[tribal silo]

Mett said that there will be balance changes to Raider mode in the future so that may actually be the removal of the RAider mode timer after death.

[fossil ingot]

while not perfect, that would do alot to help satisfy the want for a solo queue, that also said, i will believe it when i see it lol

[tribal silo]

He said this on Steam:

[fossil ingot]

they also said before about them doing changes to prestige which haven't happened as of yet

[fossil ingot]

yes, but that doesn't mean they will be doing anything about it anytime soon, just that they could do something at some point

[tribal silo]

Yeah. The endless waiting game.

[fossil ingot]

at some point they could improve the space combat, could improve the ui stuff or bug situation of bugs that have been here forever, could rework and improve prestige, but question is always when?

an updated roadmap would be nice

[fossil ingot]

sorry if im abit pessimistic btw lol, just after so many early access games, hearing "we'll work on it!" is something i just don't take that seriously

[tribal silo]

They didn't even finish the last small one cause we still need Fortress.

[fossil ingot]

forgot that was a separate thing, brain said fortress was planet killer base

and roadmap before said ship customization which im pretty sure is just 100% dead lol

most of the stuff on the roadmap did happen though, so a new revised one would be nice

[tribal silo]

The roadmap to 1.0 is still relevant. The second one is just an addition to the first one with more detail but not a replacement.

[dull swan]

chill bro.. If I want to play against premade .. why I shouldn't? Like it is not hard to implement so

[latent smelt]

ye my 3.0+ kdr vs players says ur wrong idiot

[latent smelt]

completely missed the point... the point was im very good at shooters better than you will ever be.... and people like you are clueless

[fossil ingot]

does help give a good idea of what you'll get for the new year/time period is all, like would be nice to see what they plan to get done for 2024 is all

[latent smelt]

no its not super hard at all... you take solo que and pair it with solo only... seems logical to me

[latent smelt]

because if you understood unfair advantage... you wouldnt... why cheat urself that makes no sense?

[fossil ingot]

some people like high risk with high reward, and that's fine

[latent smelt]

high reward??? what drugs are u smoking....

you get the same reward for solo fights... your taking more risk for no real gain....

[fossil ingot]

if you can kill a fully kitted 4 man, that's alot of good loot for 1 man

[latent smelt]

i do that anyways .... wtf are u on... ive killed a fully kitted player with an uzi...

u have no clue what you are talking about facepalm

"thats alot of loot for 1 man" LOL my invo is full of it so much so i cant get rid of it fast enough

[fossil ingot]

4 people will have more loot than 1 person, and if people want that challenge then that's fine and nothing is wrong with that, just would also be nice to have a seperate solo queue mode

[latent smelt]

are u rtarded? you cant even carry 4 peoples loot

you will run out of space.... im losing brain cells reading this ><

[fossil ingot]

can take their guns, their helmets, and either their ship or bring your own big ship in to store extra stuff, regardless you aren't gonna get many people on your side if all you do is insult people for liking diff modes lol

[latent smelt]

zzzzz

i have like 10 stgs....i dont need their guns...

i dont need their amour either i can craft a really good armour and i get level 12 armours eazy

i dont think you understand how easy it is to get loot in this game

[fossil ingot]

ok, and if a person wants to fight 4 man teams for the fun of it regardless?

[latent smelt]

so just because ur an idiot the rest of the community with a working brain has to suffer?

[fossil ingot]

no why? again why can't you just have both?

[latent smelt]

and u wonder why this game is dying gj half wit

[fossil ingot]

keep reg mode the same and add in a solo queue mode

[latent smelt]

we dont have both....

we have solo vs premades no solo vs solo

[visual root]

Oh you didnt read the rest of it then?

[fossil ingot]

ask for both, and as it stands we do have solo vs solo just it's very limited in raider mode

[latent smelt]

dont need to read the rest

[visual root]

There are multiple downsides to doing what you are proposing and if you refuse to see those then you really shouldnt be weighing in

[latent smelt]

really where is the solo vs solo only ?

[visual root]

Seeing both sides is part of any convo lol

[fossil ingot]

raider mode

[latent smelt]

raider mode is not the proper mode try again troll

ye thats what i thought

[fossil ingot]

i dont see much point with talking with that guy anymore lol

[latent smelt]

oh i see both sides

[fossil ingot]

have fun yelling at everyone lol

[latent smelt]

one is dumb and clueless the other isnt... yelling via typing... we have a genius here boys!!!

[visual root]

Yeah he kinda seems like someone who just wants to be mad at the game xD its gunna be a sad life not being able to hold a regular conversation haha Ill just blbock him

[latent smelt]

im not mad? i couldnt care less tbh the game is dying and on the verge of death...

ROFL i love when trolls lose to harsh truth LOL

[fossil ingot]

did the same yeah, regardless i do think a solo mode would be nice, just yeah gotta make sure it doesn't hurt the game in other ways and should allow for solo's to play the regular mode still

[inland trout]

hahaha bro, you have maybe 14 kills hahaa

[latent smelt]

14?

do i really need to show my stats to make you look even more dumb?

[fossil ingot]

if anything should do what i believe hunt does and give you an exp boost for playing the reg mode as a solo

[visual root]

Exacccctly some kind of solo mode that is just the same game but solo instead of raider mode would be so great but I wouldnt want the game to suffer in other ways for it

[inland trout]

i can kill you with the Mosin and this with my left foot

[latent smelt]

then you wake up?

[fossil ingot]

early access so reverting or tweaking stuff is easier now than say after full release

[visual root]

So true

[inland trout]

i am better then you trust me home boy 😄

[latent smelt]

u couldnt be better than me if ur life depended on it

[inland trout]

yea yea

[latent smelt]

ill own u in any shooter you play

[inland trout]

go learn Marauders

[latent smelt]

dont need to i havent lost a single 1v1 fight and never will loser

im willing to bet my stats own urs in marauders

[visual root]

It is funny how his status is "destroying idiots" but it kinda seems like all he does is type like a angry 15 year old then tell you youre wrong and thinks he "won" the conversation still being so immature as to think he has to treat any conversation like a fight he has to win xD Something awful probably happened to him growing up we should just leave him alone lol

[inland trout]

ofc, but if you lose you say to him cheater lmao

[latent smelt]

whatever helps u sleep half wit

[fossil ingot]

i already been blocked him lol

[inland trout]

and you lost a 2v1 in your yt Video?
yea bro you are really good player

[latent smelt]

post ur stats mav

um they were cheating half wit get a clue

post ur stats please i wanna laugh

ye thats what i thought

[inland trout]

hahaha no they didnt cheat, because you are trash

[latent smelt]

ROFL 56% survival rate HAHAHAHAHAH

[visual root]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058

[inland trout]

i play longer this game then you xDDD

[latent smelt]

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHA 2.6 KDR HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA cant even break 3.0 LOL LOL LOL LOLwhat are the odds i was right

[visual root]

Mavi you have better stats in almost every way BUT

I have 2 red baron kills 😛

[inland trout]

bro you are 14 years old xD

[latent smelt]

his stats arnt even good

[inland trout]

okey show me your 3 KDR

[latent smelt]

he has a 56% survival rate aka he dies to NPCS hahaha

i have an 80% survival rate LOL

[inland trout]

yea send stats

[latent smelt]

dude ur so bad its pathetic LOL

[inland trout]

come make screenshot shot and send it

[latent smelt]

56% survival rate hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaahahah

[inland trout]

how much rounds do you played?

[latent smelt]

im crying so hard right now

if your going to talk shit atleast break 70% dude how embarassing

[visual root]

@inland trout Mines bad like I said xD play for fun I think its crazy thats theres a argument abbout stats goin on because someone disagreed with his suggestion thread xD imma dip out haha getting super xbox lobby in here

[inland trout]

hahaha you dont have this KD

[latent smelt]

kieran i play for fun too and i dont have bad stats its called using a brain

[tribal silo]

Don't worry. He's just trolling BMI at this time.

[latent smelt]

ye im 100% trolling that must be it HAHAHAHAHHAHA

[inland trout]

yea but if a player kills you, you call him cheater

[latent smelt]

oh my lord there is no hope for humanity LOL

[tribal silo]

Not you. Mavi is trolling you.

[inland trout]

losing a 2vs1 is kinda cringe

[latent smelt]

u couldnt kill a paper bag mate... you have a 56% survival rate u lose to NPCS hahahaah

[inland trout]

hahaha you cant kill Ratt Packs or Breach

because you really bad at this game

[latent smelt]

here im going to make you look foolish with my old stats even that beats urs

[inland trout]

Total raids 45 xDDDD

[latent smelt]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

i said old stats learn to read LOL

[inland trout]

this is nothing bro my KDR is better then yours

[tribal silo]

You know these stats are a bug? They show 0 kills.

[latent smelt]

better... u have a 2.6 i have a 3.0kdr u are brain dead

[inland trout]

show me your new stats

[latent smelt]

56% survival hahahaha

cant even break 70!! i almost had 90% without full effort

[inland trout]

yea bro ofc you have bad stats, dont send the new stats hahaha

[latent smelt]

no i rather u continue making a fool of urself

its providing me entertainment my 5 year old cousin has a better survival rate than u LOL

i think if i blind folded myself i could survive better than u LOL

[visual root]

I watched a few mins of his video xD and its literally him saying speed hacks to every footstep he hears and him saying "they know exactly" where we are when they are just running around the map 😂 It was worth the few minutes to laugh at this idiot haha ok now im out haha grown ass man typing like a angry lil fella is always gold to see

[inland trout]

this is your new stats

[latent smelt]

ROFL kieran ur so dumb

its the same guy spawn camping game after game with no gap... thats call cheats buddy

[inland trout]

where are your 90% survival rate and 3 KDR?

[latent smelt]

do u understand the odds of camping the right area and gate back to back games?

[inland trout]

and with 86 Total raids is this ez

[latent smelt]

ROFL so clueless

ok mr 56% survival rate keep dying to npcs LOL

[tribal silo]

That's not spawn camping. I told ya that 2 times already. Just because you are in a high traffic area and another player comes to this high traffic area doesn't mean that player is cheating.

[visual root]

Wasnt even at your gate xD you ran around for literally 2 mins before you found and killed him and you shit talked the entire time 😂 Youre just a super toxic player and it shows

[latent smelt]

high traffic?? its a dead server with the same player over and over u are so clueless stop talking warpork

[inland trout]

no much raids and you go on my Survival rate?

[latent smelt]

mav ur trash stop talking mate

u die to npcs

[inland trout]

you are trash talking, you say you have a 3 KD but you have 1.6 KD

[tribal silo]

High traffic area on the POI and stop accusing people of being clueless when you don't have one yourself.

[latent smelt]

nah its called truth

[inland trout]

you die to good players and call them cheaters

[latent smelt]

ROFL dora good? xRAxcommander good? they dont even check corners

[inland trout]

ah okey so you died to noobs

[latent smelt]

ye 100% good players HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA mav u are chronically brain dead keep dying to npcs

[inland trout]

🙂

[latent smelt]

thanks for the laugh bro i havent laughed so hard in ages LOL

[inland trout]

and you have no skill rofl

[latent smelt]

yet i own better shooter players then u will ever logic!!

56% survival vs 80% LOGIC

[inland trout]

i am better then you my sweety children ❤️

[latent smelt]

then you wake up? coz ur stats clearly show u dont own NPCs let alone anyone

[inland trout]

you have 86 Raids so play more raids then lets talk later again xD

[latent smelt]

even if i play more ill still have better stats than u

[inland trout]

ofc

[latent smelt]

a monkey can get better than 56% survival

[inland trout]

lets meet us in EU Server

[latent smelt]

how do u even die to an npc ..... i didnt think that was possible :S

[inland trout]

you died do players and calling them cheaters LOL

[latent smelt]

nope i dont

[inland trout]

hahahaha

[latent smelt]

i never lost a 1v1 fight and even when its 3v1 and 3 of them are actually cheating i still killl 2 of them

[inland trout]

yea ofc your YT Video say your full skill "not"

[inland trout]

ofc xDDD

[latent smelt]

like the 3 cheaters i vsed today LOL they were spawn camping and cheating and i owned 2 of them with a thompson and a grenade it was funny

[inland trout]

you trash talking mate, you say you have 3 KD but you have 1.6 KD

[latent smelt]

i never talk trash only harsh truth

mavi is 100% a 16 or younger

complete half wit who cant even troll LOL

[inland trout]

yea you do trash talk, you sayed alltime "i have 3 KD and 90%" but the truth is

[latent smelt]

keep going loser u dont bother me

ur making a fool of urself

[inland trout]

and you are a bad player 😄

[latent smelt]

and yet i own u in marauders and am a top player in 2 high skilled shooters

ur either utterly brain dead or just a bad troll at this point

but please continue this is great 🙂

hey why dont you stream a match ur playing i wanna see how bad ur movement is LOL

[ocean zephyr]

👁️👄👁️ hi

Are we arguing about petty stuff again?

[latent smelt]

nah this guy is just a clown

[ocean zephyr]

[latent smelt]

56% survival rate talking smack makes me laugh

[ocean zephyr]

How? Can I get context? Lot to read here

[latent smelt]

trust me dont read it u will lose brain cells 😛

[tribal silo]

BMI is basically trying to show off because we disagree with him on the topic that cheaters will be the end of Marauders. Then we watched his youtube vids and it turns out he just calls everyone who he runs into a cheater. And then he talked about how good he is at Valorant and Overwatch. And then MAvi trolled him about that.

[ocean zephyr]

Ah ok so…

[latent smelt]

... wow this guy is delusional LOL

[latent smelt]

i dont care if u disagree or not your clueless and have no valid point of view

i like how he claims i call everyone a cheater when its actually