a pve exclusive game mode

[weary cedar]

Problem:

You’re always at the mercy of some shitass with a rifle one tapping you from across the map because he has 3000 hours and is a pvp demon.

Body:

This is slightly better in raid mode because equipment is random but highly skilled people will always be a problem for new players or players who just want to play against easy to mid level enemies.

Solution:

A third purely PVE game mode similar to raid in that it has a cool down (to limit people mainlining it and getting good loot with no risk from high skill players) but similar to the standard mode in that you can bring your own gear and play in a normal map with points of interest, salvage, turrets/mines, etc but on a smaller scale to limit server bloating or wasting of resources since this would be a game per player and not a shared round.

disclaimer:

I know very little about online/offline games and the differences thereof in terms of server load and requirements so if the above statements make no sense here’s your answer.

Thank you for your time.

[weary cedar]

@clear vigil anything to add or discuss? The best way to improve an idea is through discussion.

[clear vigil]

The game is a PvP PvE game and taking away an essential part of the game ain't a good thing imo. I know being killed early in the raid by a guy with one headshot is frustrating but this new game mode would divide the playerbase into smaller groups and I could see a lot of players just playing the PvE mode then. Currently the playerbase isn't big enough to sustain more than two game modes.

Some advice I would give you. When you wanna play something more PvE go to the unpopular POIs like Asteroid Mine and Mining Frigate cause they are ignored most of the time by other players. And running away isn't a shame either when you encounter a more skilled player.

[torn fulcrum]

I hate it but Pork is pretty right about the player pop issue.

[weary cedar]

Those are good points and I do partially agree that the player base is a little bit small to be implementing too many separate avenues of play this early on. Do you think this issue would be fixed once a certain number of recurring players is reached or will the inherent risk involved with pvp lead to too many of those players defaulting to pve exclusively, further reducing their interaction with the game due to cool downs, rendering the pve exclusive game mode unviable at its core?

[torn fulcrum]

I think itd go the route of SCUM in that instance especially since servers are all on the company rather than hosting

[weary cedar]

Yeah last month we saw a peak of ~4,600 and an average of ~1,100

[weary cedar]

According to steam charts

That’s really low considering the fun this game can produce but not surprising considering the bugs/general instability of an unfinished game and the niche nature of extraction shooters, I use niche loosely.

[torn fulcrum]

How long the game been out anyhow? I only found out about it maybe last month. Maybe a marketing issue

Oh yeesh almost a year now. Yeah time to ramp up marketing lol

[weary cedar]

Ive seen no marketing for this game before I started playing

The free weekend was a good move I think

[torn fulcrum]

The most I seen was the free weekend and my friend told me about that

[weary cedar]

I don’t actually remember how I discovered marauders. Some YouTube ads would be good

[clear vigil]

Marauders started into Early Access on the 3rd of October 2022.

[torn fulcrum]

I think it came up in a queue and I looked at it once, added it to wishlist then a couple weeks later buddy told me about free weekend

[clear vigil]

There are youtube ads for Marauders.

[weary cedar]

Never seen any that I can remember

[clear vigil]

That's actually a lot for Marauders.

[weary cedar]

I remember now: I was searching for diesel punk games and found this as one of the only good fps Dieselpunk games

[clear vigil]

You don't get trailer ads but Marauders shows up as one of these ads on top of the next videos.

[weary cedar]

But not enough. I think the pve exclusive mode could be viable around 10k

[clear vigil]

Not enough? You don't have to worry about too low player counts in this game. SIG and Team17 aren't concerned about that before the game had its full launch.

[weary cedar]

I keep forgetting that this game is in early access

[weary cedar]

I’ll be damned

[fierce silo]

• this so it goes to the top of the suggestions again

game literally cannot get any worse by adding a pve only mode. no different than SPT really. servers can handle an influx of people because the game handled higher playercounts before with no issues. Giving people viable options on how to play the game and enjoy it isn't a bad thing especially with niche games that are still in development and only a year into its EA on Steam.

also dont think anyone would have an issue with pve stash and pvp stashes being separate. i know for a long time the inventories were bugged and really bad with having to open sacks and backpacks and close them then take them into raids and drop them and pick them up after unfolding them. and if the dev team and the publisher dont care about playercount idk why they wouldnt add in a pve mode to possibly get more purchases from people seeking solely pve games. imagine people buying this game that is pvp but for solely pve at 30 dollars... would be the most expensive pve game out there.

also to say PVE only wouldnt be worth it is a very asinine thing to say when most games published by Team17 that make money are either single player games or coop games and even their best pvp game is worms.

[safe talon]

a pve mode would be nice for those that want it, would need to have the stash separate from pvp stash; that said idk if the devs would ever implement it considering they've stated before about not wanting it for one, two it could pull players away from the pvp mode (especially solo people) and three people then will probably complain about the solo mode feeling too baren to be worthwhile, which the devs could just ignore it but they probably wouldn't want to ship an underdeveloped mode. if anything would probably need modders to make a PVE offline mod for the game sometime down the line

I'd be up for a pve mode but i dont see it happening, personally i'd settle for a solo queue so I can fight other solo players

[fierce silo]

agreed. valid points no doubt. modders wouldnt be a bad thing but we gotta get to 1.0 and then get a playerbase willing to mod it.

[fierce silo]

i could agree with that. solo queue would be awesome. i guess the raider mode is kinda solo mode really and its honestly not bad. i will say though this game feels like its made for team based gameplay though. but that doesnt mean trying solos would be a bad thing.

[safe talon]

i really like raider mode and just wish if anything either it didnt have a timer to get back into it or a separate true solo queue similar to reg mode but solos only and say only one big poi. that's coming from the perspective of someone who mostly plays this game solo, regular queue is ok just gets tiring trying to deal with teams as a solo, especially with ship combat

[fierce silo]

yea the raider mode is really good for learning and getting gear without having "gear fear" i honestly enjoyed it when i tried it

[fierce silo]

the hard part is also trying to balance a game for solo play as well as team play. the game for sure is built as a team game but it does feel nice playing solo and not having to communicate or worry about people teamkilling you

[safe talon]

fair, that said there is nothing that technically stops most if not everyone in a match right now being solos, so i feel it's something they need to balance for regardless