nerf stoner base damage

[fresh orchid]

its overbalanced dev team i know you know

[edgy pier]

laughs in BREN, KRASA, MG42, MG42heavy, DP28, L1A1, BAR, and PPSH. All of which that deals more DPS then the gun you're mentioning

[edgy pier]

If anything, it needs a buff. Its recoil is very high compared to the guns damage. Its like a BREN without the damage to compensate.

[exotic elm]

To be fair, the recoil is strictly vertical so all you have to do is pull down. That being said its only tied for 3rd best gun at best.

[edgy pier]

Dont they all kick verticaly tho? Never experienced much horizontal recoil if at all if memory serves. And why 3rd best? It has a low DPS compared to the likes of most of the guns i listed

[exotic elm]

Try using Krasa. Has insane horizontal bounce. DP28 also has horizontal bounce but the way it bounces usually makes it land in the same relative area.

[edgy pier]

Imma have to use the krasa again... See if ya have a point

[exotic elm]

Effective range is <25 meters

Try using it beyond that and you will see

[edgy pier]

If your fighting past that range, congrats on even ending up at a situation where someones that far away. Most of the fights im in its room to room mayhem and hallway mag dumping

[exotic elm]

It happens, but generally you want to adjust playstyle to match gun's effective range so yea

[hollow bison]

Basically the closer the better with the krasa where some guns you can still do fine at longer ranges

[hazy yew]

This exactly. I refuse to use the stoner unless it's my only option. the K1 Assault is just way better and I don't need to loot a vault to get it.

[shell olive]

Yeah honestly K1 and M16 are way better because they are more accessible and dont have as much recoil (even though recoil is pretty much non-existent in this game)

[fast drift]

Stoner really isn't that great, Mac-10 with silencer and PPSH are the ones that really need a nerf, why even bother with rifles if they are available?

[shell olive]

Because mac10 is harder to get than a BAR/M16 and 10mil sucks against armor.

[fast drift]

well the silencer is :p

[shell olive]

Where do you get the mac10?

[fast drift]

err just loot? I seem to get it fairly often, enough that I usually just sell/scrap them

[shell olive]

I sell them too, if i even pick them up. PPSH might need a slight nerf i guess, but its still not at the power level of the higher calibers. Its just the accessibility that makes it seem op.

[sleek pine]

whilst i agree ppsh is really good, the stoner is better lol

stoner is one of my fav guns

[knotty fable]

ppsh is crazy

its stupidly easy to get and it has an extremely fast ttk