Less crews on the new maps | Marauders | Page 1

fallen vapor Dec 16, 2022, 10:35 AM

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You have literally hampered your own game with the increase to crews, this bullshit has me getting third partied in the ass every other raid and is making running solo fucking abysmal

lunar solstice Dec 16, 2022, 4:13 PM

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Agreed. I even ran a lot of duos last night with a buddy and we got third partied almost every time… or got camped at our airlock. There’s way too many players per map now.

plush sandal Dec 16, 2022, 6:13 PM

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fallen vapor You have literally hampered your own game with the increase to crews, this bulls...

Skill issue

polar solstice Dec 16, 2022, 9:01 PM

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I literally just got DMed by several other friends that they’re also gonna be holding off on playing till things change, it’s just too difficult to progress or succeed currently. The number of players per instance creates too much rng

distant spear Dec 16, 2022, 9:14 PM

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the reality is the game is more fun when you are forced into a pvp encounter in every raid, even for rat style players who try to hide away from combat. it was dumb before the update how you could go through multiple raids without finding a real person, and even easier for someone to hide away and avoid combat if they wanted to. the game is very boring when it is just a bot fest unfortunately.

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if you don't want to fight real players, use a vpn and connect to somewhere in asia, the game is dead there so go ahead and try doing that for a week and i guarantee you will be bored

polar solstice Dec 16, 2022, 9:16 PM

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Ok I’ll tell my friends that they’re having more fun now that they can’t progress

distant spear Dec 16, 2022, 9:17 PM

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polar solstice Ok I’ll tell my friends that they’re having more fun now that they can’t progres...

funny you say that, because my friends i introduced this game to all quit because there were not enough players per raid

polar solstice Dec 16, 2022, 9:18 PM

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I don’t want no pvp, but the current situation is too much
I don’t know what server or time you’re playing, but I was stuck with a ton of players per map, just a slaughter every time with no progression

distant spear Dec 16, 2022, 9:18 PM

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im currently in asia for holiday, and it sucks here at most i encounter only 1 person per raid

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looking forward to trying this out when im back in europe

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and actually having real players to fight

polar solstice Dec 16, 2022, 9:19 PM

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The combo of contracts requiring extraction and so many players causing it to be total rng if you survive is no fun

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I’ll be back when I have a fair chance of actual progress

distant spear Dec 16, 2022, 9:20 PM

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like i said, try using a vpn and connect to asia. you will get bored 100 percent

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sure u can progress easily, but it means nothing when there are no real humans to fight

meager summit Dec 16, 2022, 9:20 PM

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I had a hard time too as a solo but I disagree with the decreasing squad size just take your time or don’t stick around and loot too long greed and indecisiveness has been my worst enemy this wipe

polar solstice Dec 16, 2022, 9:21 PM

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You’ve played with minimal players, it’s boring , yes.
But 30-40 is too many in a raid

distant spear Dec 16, 2022, 9:21 PM

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according to you it is too much, but most people i see on here and reddit like it a lot

meager summit Dec 16, 2022, 9:24 PM

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distant spear according to you it is too much, but most people i see on here and reddit like i...

I’m loving the increase

polar solstice Dec 16, 2022, 9:34 PM

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I guess after five hours of no progression even when I manage to escape I must be having fun.

distant spear Dec 16, 2022, 9:34 PM

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what is your kd ratio?

polar solstice Dec 16, 2022, 9:35 PM

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Dunno, don’t care.
I win against a player, then get killed by a third party as my mag empties

distant spear Dec 16, 2022, 9:35 PM

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it might be a case of needing to improve, and i say that respectfully

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besides, one of the common complaints was progression was too easy before

polar solstice Dec 16, 2022, 9:38 PM

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Please
Take your “I’m bored” and “skill issue” elsewhere. They aren’t helpful. If you genuinely want to fight people all day, there are better games for that.
I want to play the other two thirds of the gameplay loop, and have a chance at progressing. I can only kill so many players and NPCs before I just don’t have the supplies to survive, and that’s just trying to get out after going straight to get a contract done, or grabbing a few things from boxes and running.
Five hours man. Five hours and no progression. That’s not fun, that’s not skill, that’s rng and frustrating.
If I wanted this much pointless pvp I’d go play CS:GO

distant spear Dec 16, 2022, 9:39 PM

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saying go and play pvp elsewhere is very ignorant of you

polar solstice Dec 16, 2022, 9:39 PM

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10 minutes spent hiding in a corner near a pod, hoping to get out after the constant gunfire goes away, only to die mid animation

distant spear Dec 16, 2022, 9:39 PM

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pvp is way more satisfying in this. one kill in this is better than getting 10 kills in csgo

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connect to another region with a vpn if your struggling

polar solstice Dec 16, 2022, 9:40 PM

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Ah yes
The old “I can’t have fun if I I’m not causing others pain” approach

distant spear Dec 16, 2022, 9:41 PM

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it really sounds like your a noob and your struggling to survive now vs before, which makes sense because before the update you didnt have to do anything to progress, and you could survive every raid if you just hid in a corner

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now you actually have to fight your way out which is a good thing, and most people like it

polar solstice Dec 16, 2022, 9:42 PM

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I die maybe 50% in a fight, and win the other 50%
I’m getting shot by third parties. A lot. Like every raid. There’s nothing I can do about that except cheat or wait for 15 minutes in the airlock

distant spear Dec 16, 2022, 9:43 PM

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what level are you now?

polar solstice Dec 16, 2022, 9:45 PM

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Like 15, that’s from grinding for, mm, maybe 30 hours since the last wipe. I’d have a lot more if I didn’t get shot in the back by another fresh party before having a chance to blink after killing the person in front of me.
Genuinely, if you desire pvp, play US servers. The times I play here are so full you can barely do anything. I don’t think you grasp how congested it is here. And this is the max the game allows now.

distant spear Dec 16, 2022, 9:45 PM

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i dont know what gear ur brining into the raids, but it also sounds like you are just doing rat runs and expecting to have a high survival rate

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i live in europe, which has a high player count. when i am back there from my holiday i will have loadsd of players per raid again

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what guns and weapons do you use the most?

polar solstice Dec 16, 2022, 9:46 PM

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Nope
Stop making assumptions about my gameplay. I have come in many times with decent gear that I’ve grabbed from stashes and such, with the same experience. Get shot in the back of the head by a fresh squad.
Previously this would happen to me once every few raids, now it’s every time.

distant spear Dec 16, 2022, 9:47 PM

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im asking you what you are doing lol

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im assuming this is just shock to you, because before the update it was easy to avoid fights and extract if you hid away or even if you didnt hide away. and as a result most people were complaining they felt like they completed the game and had too much loot

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its only been like 3 days since the update lmao? u need to adapt and get a bit better honestly

polar solstice Dec 16, 2022, 10:20 PM

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You’re used to European servers. The average number of players there has gone up and made it more enjoyable because it’s hit that sweet spot. It was already in the sweet spot in the US, and now it’s too much.
It reminds me of playing Rust in COD and getting killed as soon as I spawn.

Perhaps you should leave the insults at the door and offer actually helpful comments for once? I mostly just see you telling people they must be bad if they’re unhappy. Seriously I usually skip your comments because they’re never helpful

distant spear Dec 16, 2022, 10:21 PM

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polar solstice You’re used to European servers. The average number of players there has gone up...

theres nothing wrong with needing to improve at a game, i was bad at this game when i first started

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have i personally attacked you? no

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all i said was i think u need to improve how your playing, its barely been a couple of days since the update, and you have immidiately started complaining about not being able to make any progress, which btw isn't true because you have said yourself you are already lvl 15, which imo might be too much progress in just 2 days and in a month everyone will have completed the game again

polar solstice Dec 16, 2022, 10:54 PM

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Again, you’re used to less players than I am.
Prior to the update I would meet usually 7-10 other players, some I would fight, some I would run from because I was full on loot and had no health or healing left. That was fine. I survived maybe 50% of combat encounters with players, which is what I expect.
Now, I’m meeting another entire squad once every minute on average (which means more than one squad in less than 30 seconds sometimes). I’m an average player, there’s nothing I can do about that. I see the same for other players, and ones I know are better than me.
If you haven’t experienced the US servers and the times I play, I can understand why you might be happy with the changes, Europe now likely in the sweet spot that I used to play in prior to the wipe.
But the maps are designed for 20 or less players, not 30+.
In Navy Outpost I can barely go to the next room without being forced into combat with players. And then, while I’m fighting them, or maybe have won, I (and my squad) or they get killed by two other squads entering the same room. I can’t skill my way out of that, but I can be an extreme rat and sit in the airlock till the 10 minute mark.
It’s not fun for my friends and I, even with that progression I’ve made (which might be an indicator of how well I can do when I manage to escape), it’s not been fun. I can’t carry the ammo and healing to fight that many people. Even if I manage to scrape enough gear together, which I often can’t because of how rarely I escape even with a 50% k/d, I’m not progressing in the gear I have on average.

plush sandal Dec 16, 2022, 11:38 PM

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polar solstice I don’t want no pvp, but the current situation is too much I don’t know what ser...

Oh boo hoo let me play a sad song on the world’s tiniest violin

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You legit just need to get better man it’s that simple.

polar solstice Dec 17, 2022, 2:00 AM

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plush sandal You legit just need to get better man it’s that simple.

50% k/d and too many combats in a single raid is still a failed raid with no progress, unless you get extremely lucky.
Are you saying everyone needs to have over a 50% k/d now? Because that would be literally impossible.
Even my friend that would often clear raids by himself, with a 75+% k/d prior to the wipe, struggles to make it out of raids now. It doesn’t matter how skilled you, unless you’re perfect I suppose, if you go through enough combat you will die. Death in raids means failure, a setback, no progress. That’s what happening to me and others, there’s just too much combat in each raid now, very few people are making it out of raids, which isn’t good for the game.

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 2:01 AM

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Bro lets a single flop raid completely ruin him

polar solstice Dec 17, 2022, 2:02 AM

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I’m talking dozens of raids, ever since the wipe.
Cool it with the “skill issue” nonsense, outside of the few people that say it unironically it’s a joke to everyone else because we know it’s stupid.

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 2:03 AM

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Nah dude I genuinely think you need to get better at the game.

polar solstice Dec 17, 2022, 2:03 AM

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And I genuinely think you’re not helping

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After I kill 2 people just from exiting the first room, should I just git gud and kill the next squad too?

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 2:04 AM

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If more combat (IE the meat and potatoes of the game) is some massive world ending problem for you, then that’s on you. No amount of blaming other things will fix it. My friends and I have been doing pretty great since this update dropped, and one of them bought the game the day it dropped. I think you’re just genuinely bad.

polar solstice Dec 17, 2022, 2:04 AM

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Are you in Europe?

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 2:05 AM

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What are you going to start blaming regional servers too? I’m on North American servers.

polar solstice Dec 17, 2022, 2:05 AM

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Just checking. Different servers and different times of day have different numbers of active players.
Are you encounter 20+ players when you go into stations now? I am.

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 2:06 AM

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I play in evenings when I’m off work, which is peak hours. 20+ players is fine if you’re not braindead.

polar solstice Dec 17, 2022, 2:06 AM

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And... you kill all of them?

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 2:07 AM

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No because I don’t have the self preservation of a gerbil, you moron.

distant spear Dec 17, 2022, 2:07 AM

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polar solstice And... you kill all of them?

why do you keep saying this as if you have to kill all 20 people in the raid lol

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 2:07 AM

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If the station is like Aleppo, I loot just enough to make a profit then bug out it’s that simple.

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At this point you gotta be trying to be this bad

polar solstice Dec 17, 2022, 2:08 AM

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distant spear why do you keep saying this as if you have to kill all 20 people in the raid lol

Because I can’t get back out with going through multiple squads.
Go in, kill two squads, get out, kill two or three more.

distant spear Dec 17, 2022, 2:08 AM

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polar solstice Because I can’t get back out with going through multiple squads. Go in, kill two...

whats ur survival rate

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 2:08 AM

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Yeah what is your survival rate.

distant spear Dec 17, 2022, 2:09 AM

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i really bet you just werent used to dying before the update, and now u are finally getting killed often

polar solstice Dec 17, 2022, 2:09 AM

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Per raid? Right now it’s maybe 10%.
Per combat? 50%

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 2:09 AM

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LOL

distant spear Dec 17, 2022, 2:09 AM

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your extraction rate is 10%?

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 2:10 AM

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How do you only make it out of 10% of your raids

polar solstice Dec 17, 2022, 2:10 AM

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Three combats at 50% k/d is less than 10% survival rate, yes.

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I don’t think you guys grasp how much combat I’m encountering just trying to grab and run

distant spear Dec 17, 2022, 2:11 AM

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u know you can fly to the raid with only 1 contract

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instead of going for the station with both contracts, where most people are going

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or wear some panzer armour and a good rifle, instead of using the worst gear u have

polar solstice Dec 17, 2022, 2:11 AM

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Yeah
I went in from the Navy Station to turn off the guns, from the airlock right at it.
I got killed by the third squad that came in after turning it off

distant spear Dec 17, 2022, 2:12 AM

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can u share a screen shot of ur stats lol

polar solstice Dec 17, 2022, 2:12 AM

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distant spear or wear some panzer armour and a good rifle, instead of using the worst gear u h...

Gotta live long enough to get that, and I have a few times, it didn’t make much difference
I’m not at home

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 2:12 AM

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I actually can’t believe someone can die this much.

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My friend with 5 hours of playtime since yesterday has a higher survival rate aint no way

distant spear Dec 17, 2022, 2:13 AM

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i think his survival rate is higher, hes just saying it is 10% lol

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 2:13 AM

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Yeah I actually find dying in 90% of raids to be hard to believe

distant spear Dec 17, 2022, 2:13 AM

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probably went from a 80 percent survival rate to 50% and thinks that is bad

polar solstice Dec 17, 2022, 2:14 AM

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I’m not counting the times I go in from the airlock, grab the loot from the first box, and leave.

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It certainly feels like I’ve gone from a looter shooter to a cod zombies game. The Navy Station is the worst offender, but more than half of the contracts I try to do end up being “there’s three other squads and several ai bearing down on you”.

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 2:18 AM

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Pull your pants up

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If my friend that just started playing yesterday is doing just fine with the new update you really need to get better

polar solstice Dec 17, 2022, 2:22 AM

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Bog
Just stop
You’re not helping. I am aware that getting better will always improve my experience.

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 2:22 AM

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Then stop complaining.

polar solstice Dec 17, 2022, 2:22 AM

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Just shout skill issue some more I’m sure it will help

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 2:22 AM

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Stop whining and I’ll stop mocking you.

distant spear Dec 17, 2022, 2:23 AM

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should at least try and adapt how ur playing, its only been like 2 days since the update and from looking around most people are happy with it, it is just u and a minority of others who dont like it

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it was bad game design pre update when u could avoid all contact with players just by hiding a bit.

polar solstice Dec 17, 2022, 2:25 AM

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I have, koc
But being told to just stop whining and git gud just ticks me off.

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 2:25 AM

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But that’s exactly what you need to do.

polar solstice Dec 17, 2022, 2:25 AM

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A balance between what it was and what it is now is what is needed.

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 2:25 AM

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Nah it’s good now.

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Prior to this patch the game was boring and pretty repetitive. Now with the stations being actual war zones I gotta change how I play, and I like it.

polar solstice Dec 17, 2022, 2:26 AM

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Cool

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 2:27 AM

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You just need to git gud.

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Never gonna make it

fallen vapor Dec 17, 2022, 4:50 AM

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meager summit I had a hard time too as a solo but I disagree with the decreasing squad size ju...

not squad size just less squads, I'm not even getting a chance to go loot anything, its super unfriendly to play solo now

fallen vapor Dec 17, 2022, 4:52 AM

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plush sandal No because I don’t have the self preservation of a gerbil, you moron.

you can fuck off

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 4:52 AM

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fallen vapor you can fuck off

Git gud then

fallen vapor Dec 17, 2022, 4:52 AM

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So because you like it I have to like it your way?

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when it would be the same for you if they reduced it? You're an idiot

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learn to spell you assclown

distant spear Dec 17, 2022, 4:55 AM

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fallen vapor not squad size just less squads, I'm not even getting a chance to go loot anythi...

your assuming that because you are finding it hard to loot, this must be the case for everyone but this is not true

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thats why hes saying to git gud i think

fallen vapor Dec 17, 2022, 4:55 AM

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I'm finding it hard to play as a solo, that's the part that's not fun

distant spear Dec 17, 2022, 4:56 AM

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you find it hard palying solo, but a lot of us don't

fallen vapor Dec 17, 2022, 4:56 AM

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when before, there was space to move and disengage. Are you in lobbies with 7 or more ships?

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hit and run is not as feasible and that's not as fun as constant chaos, that's why it ought to change

distant spear Dec 17, 2022, 4:57 AM

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stop making these blanket statements as if they apply to everyone in the game lol

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 4:57 AM

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Yeah I'm having a blast with this new update. More combat was honestly a good idea

fallen vapor Dec 17, 2022, 4:58 AM

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blanket when it relates directly to my experience? I was already having consistent combat and now it no space to move away from it and then move back to it

distant spear Dec 17, 2022, 4:59 AM

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your asking for the devs to change the game for you, which is fine tbh to make a suggestion, but it should be obvious looking at the dislikes on this post that the things you are saying aren't problems other players are facing

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it is really just a case of you needing to adapt, or atleast try to get a bit better then complain about this a week from now, not 2 days after the update has barely been in game

fallen vapor Dec 17, 2022, 5:00 AM

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yeah if they were in empty lobbies I guess? but that's literally not what I've had happen

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I've been playing since beta with a positive survival rate and KD

distant spear Dec 17, 2022, 5:00 AM

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whats ur kd

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 5:00 AM

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prolly like 1

fallen vapor Dec 17, 2022, 5:00 AM

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I still have positive of both and I'm not enjoying it as much. Also Bog, you're the kind of person the world is better without

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 5:01 AM

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You're malding because I told you to git gud okay dude

fallen vapor Dec 17, 2022, 5:01 AM

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My K/D is 6

distant spear Dec 17, 2022, 5:01 AM

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your bot kd?

fallen vapor Dec 17, 2022, 5:02 AM

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my marauder K/D is 3. My survival rate is what tanked

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I'm getting kills but not coming out of fights

distant spear Dec 17, 2022, 5:03 AM

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i find it hard to believe you have a marauder kd of 3 tbh, but maybe ur telling the truth

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 5:03 AM

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lol

distant spear Dec 17, 2022, 5:03 AM

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mine was 3.6 before the wipe

fallen vapor Dec 17, 2022, 5:04 AM

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Alright whatever, Bog, suck start a 12 gauge

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 5:05 AM

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Pretty toxic of you bruh...

meager summit Dec 17, 2022, 5:06 AM

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fallen vapor not squad size just less squads, I'm not even getting a chance to go loot anythi...

i know he meant in raids i worded it wrong my bad

distant spear Dec 17, 2022, 5:13 AM

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fallen vapor my marauder K/D is 3. My survival rate is what tanked

ur definately doing something wrong if you really have a marauder kd of 3 (which I doubt) and you somehow cant survive enough to make progress

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i think a lot of people are just now getting used to actually getting killed in raids often, because before if you wanted to you could just hide and not encounter any players pretty easily

prime parrot Dec 17, 2022, 5:28 AM

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yeah was kinda boring before the update, you could just rat in a stadion and most of my time i encountered always first a bot and afterwards more bots, than leave easy to the escapepod. Doing that a few times and had a whole bunch of good loot.

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cant judge how it is now, didnt play it after the update.

fathom osprey Dec 17, 2022, 7:43 AM

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polar solstice 10 minutes spent hiding in a corner near a pod, hoping to get out after the cons...

Stop waiting for gunfire to stop. People shooting their gun means they’re focused on something or someone else that isn’t you.

plush sandal Dec 17, 2022, 8:06 AM

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Holy shit dude got so mad he left the server

eternal talon Dec 17, 2022, 10:47 AM

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Too many messages to read the full conversation, but here go my 2 cents:

This update really improved the gameplay loop, made the game harder (it was too easy before) and created more ways to play it.

Before the update, we heard these players for whom the game was too easy, too many empty raids before people extracted right away, contracts were validated even though you died.

It seems that now we hear players who like a more casual experience. But for me making Marauders a casual game would go against its very essence. In an extract fps game, you should feel affraid at any time, fear to loose your gear, fear to become poor again. Before the update, it took me like 3 days after a prestige to have a "stable stash", i.e. to have a little bit of everything and in average to bring more quality stuff than I was loosing. Now the game la more challenging that ever. Damn I would even make 10 crews per match a minimum, not only a maximum, since it still happens that I'm alone in a point of interest, or only prêt one crew.

final osprey Dec 27, 2022, 5:02 AM

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as of getting the game 2 days ago i have been down to 15 dollars and an empty inventory because I played the game like a normal FPS game, once you learn the maps and how the guns work you should easily be able to kill some ai and get loot that allows you to compete with players, if you play solo you need to bring more ammo and meds, if you can kill ai and get loot but can't kill players then try squading up, if you are still continuously dying to players then you may need to play some other FPS games to get good at PVP.

#Less crews on the new maps