#Keep the shotgun AI in Penal Colony 5 as-is

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ocean mirage
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The AI in most games is a pushover and I think there should be a check on players, regardless of skill, so that they are always on their toes. #shotgunAIdidnothingwrong

red valley
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No please

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I know that you heard they want to keep it but noo

ocean mirage
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Mate, I just want the top epic max gear players to quake in fear of something lol

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If not me, then something else 😛

ebon needle
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they have issue ... that they have 0 spread ...... which is not quite fair if he decides to shoot you across the room . liberator bots are the same

ocean mirage
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I think some balancing regarding the spread could be addressed

ebon needle
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ebon needle
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ebon needle
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BRUH... its a shotgun that is saw off .... and he is like beyond 30-40 meters lets be realistic that this is not the intended way how a saw off shot gun with pellets should work ...

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ebon needle
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getting off topic both of us ... we wont agree on this as i see no need to further spam 🙂
im sure we both want the best for the game

lets stop

harsh bolt
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harsh bolt
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If you peek stop peek they wont Shoot. They literally need a second or two before they Shoot you and if you dont know how to fight them or not peek like an idiot its your own Fault not everyone can be a good player

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ocean mirage
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ebon needle
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but i dont argue that they should do less damage cuz at this point they are more dangerous than SVT bot . they have no spread and that is a problem since it doesnt follow any logic for their weapon. if they have slugs alright give them SVT and they 1 tap me ... alright fair
but i also talk about the cases where they are 40 meters away and they can PEW PEW you.

wheat inlet
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Yea, they'll shoot you from that far away. But did you know, you can do the same? Ever go into raid with a Trench? It snipes. You're asking for a Trench Gun nerf, not AI nerf. Just cause you've never ran the trench gun yourself. That's how it works.

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sry, double barrel.

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Shotguns are damn accurate in real life. And if you were to use the gun yourself, you'd poop on people at the same ranges the AI kills other players. Shotguns are just that strong, but not overpowered, since there are other contenders like hte STG and SVT.

ebon needle
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yea but here is the difference if i get the saw of mine has spread theirs not ....

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if its equal i wodnt be mad also i forgot that this is a game i will get into my rust bucket on my way to work tomorrow and also will take a luger bullet in my head without dying

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ocean mirage
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I tried the sawed off as if I were the AI and no, it doesn't work the same for players lol

harsh bolt
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glad plover
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# ocean mirage Mate, I just want the top epic max gear players to quake in fear of something lo...

A T10 armor drops shotgun AI damage per pellet from 12 to 2.
HS damage per pellet is 7.
12 pellets a shot.

This means a T10 headshot does 84 dmg, and a T10 chest shot does 24 dmg.

Meanwhile, a non-"epic max gear player" wearing your average low lv player wearing T6 armor (say, a Jerkin and light stalheim) takes 72dmg on a chest shot, and 252dmg to the head (one-tapped).

And for those who're rocking T8 armor (plate rig, and let's say they're using a PSH Helm instead of the average dude's lv7 red stal helmet or lv9 heavy stal), he's still taking 48dmg per chest shot and getting one-tapped on headshot with 168dmg.

Add to that the fact that the shotgun is TEARING your armor apart at 12 ticks of damage each time the AI fires, and this is far worse for non-"epic max armor" players.

TL;DR-
I've mathematically proven that "epic max armor" players (as you called them) laugh off sniper-shotty AI, while average players that aren't using the best of the best are getting screwed.

ocean mirage
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harsh bolt
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After 80 Hours of gameplay i never actually got killed by the Shotgun AI. Shot to 1HP, 10 HP but never got killed. Idk man, looks like people dont know how 2 fight AI and then cry about it

glad plover
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Its called dont get close to em

harsh bolt
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Nah that would be too easy. Since you cannot tell which one has a shotgun or not, but they really need 1 to 3 seconds when they spot you to shoot you and honestly if you need 1 second to shoot or reposition or get in cover when AI spots you its your own fault. What do you want or expect? That the AI needs like 5 seconds to kill you?

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This game is not supposed to be a candy walk and the devs said they dont want it to be

jolly quiver
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keep it as it is

lucid lava
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i love the feeling of running to players instead of ai because of the chance they could drop me in second. makes the stakes higher and forces me into actual gunfights not just tapping cheesed AI

twilit socket
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Tbh shotgun ai does add some risk to an otherwise not very scary monument, however I think that they should at least fucking reload, and they should make the spread more exponential.

twilit socket
# glad plover Its called dont get close to em

you don't even need to be close to get 1 tapped by these guys haha. Someone posted a clip of them getting instant killed, one shell from across the prison block part of the map from a shotgun bot.

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twilit socket
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It was in this server it was posted. I recorded it, but I can’t post it here because apparently a screen recording of a 13 second video is like 15 mb

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He was full hp as well idk what happened

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Oh not full he was at 94

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